Space Stalingrad: The Underrated Brutality Behind the Space Battle that HAD to be Won [Kamino]

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  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +202

    Respect to the clone who helped anakin keep the fett d.n.a. out of ventresse's hands.

    • @zeusz3237
      @zeusz3237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That moment was just plain chad!

  • @Taliesin-xd7ke
    @Taliesin-xd7ke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    For me it was the Battle of Umbara, it had everything that's terrifying about war, including treachery!😱

    • @it1745
      @it1745 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Nah that's space Vietnam

    • @frostedhams
      @frostedhams 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@it1745That’s the point

    • @imachickennugget3966
      @imachickennugget3966 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frostedhams bs

    • @panzerschliffehohenzollern4863
      @panzerschliffehohenzollern4863 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@it1745*THEY'RE IN THE TREE!!!*

  • @articusramos808
    @articusramos808 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    Hell of a big fight even during classic clone wars maps

  • @arctrooperecho2654
    @arctrooperecho2654 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    RIP 99, you where an inspiration to us all

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    I've always wanted the Clone Wars to go deeper into these battles. Like sure if they don't want to show random clone units, fine, show us cases of Anakin and the 501st just going out to a planet, and spending some time there before moving on to the next.
    Bad Batch really could've revolved around the Republic/Imperial Era of warfare. Should've called it "Rise of the Empire" or something, and show the Reconquest of the Outer-Rim, the "Second Round" of the Clone Wars after the Empire was formed, albeit we don't get Jedi, perhaps the occasional Inquisitor showing up later on to lead some of the troops where Jedi are involved.

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      If they don't want to show random clone units, then, don't name your show "clone wars".

    • @klaykid117
      @klaykid117 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Usually that kind of stuff is reserved only as throw away lines in books

    • @Enigma75614
      @Enigma75614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bad Batch should have just been an anthology series.

    • @frostedhams
      @frostedhams 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@DarthDread-oh2neWhat would you have them name it? The clone wars show is the best piece of starwars apart from the first 6 movies. Hell some of the arcs in TCW are better than most the movies.

    • @imachickennugget3966
      @imachickennugget3966 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frostedhams orgasm

  • @arthurbrax6561
    @arthurbrax6561 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Good question is why in the Second Battle of Geonosis the Republic still didn't use fighters to defend the LAAT or get air supremacy before the landing started.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That's basically what they did. Which is WHY we barely see ANY CIS air power in that battle. An not hardly at all helping their apparently under ridiculous attack Droid forces on the main field. They just didn't have it

  • @mrmacura3421
    @mrmacura3421 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    What does not make sense to me is why the Republic did not activate Kamino's planetary shield after all Starfighters that were to join the battle had left. I suppose it had one given how important Kamino was for the Republic and those pieces of debris could have done serious damage had they fallen on any of the Kaminoan cities.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Is it just me or Kamino suddenly sounded as important as Constantinople in our world?

    • @TbV-st8ef
      @TbV-st8ef 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's Istanbul not Constantinople

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TbV-st8ef I know that. I was referring to how important such a city was when it comes to international politics, economy and geopolitics, which was before Turkey was proclaimed and before Constantinople became Istanbul.

    • @TbV-st8ef
      @TbV-st8ef 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lerneanlion alr

  • @hunterkiller1440
    @hunterkiller1440 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I love Clone Pilot designs. It looks amazing.

  • @IBW_3000
    @IBW_3000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    F for 99. Those bombs halted an infantry advance.

  • @TaraCicora
    @TaraCicora 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Just gonna say, I loved this comic! And I enjoyed this episode in TCW.

  • @danese1636
    @danese1636 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    It's fitting: The only ones capable of defeating Kamino were the ones that were born and raised there.

  • @luwucian4497
    @luwucian4497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    i love how in this comic the jedi starfighters design change to a acclamators for no reason like 2 times hahaha

  • @EzekielDeLaCroix
    @EzekielDeLaCroix 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Since the war was orchestrated, Imagine if both Palpatine and Dooku received news of Separatist victory. They would be shitting their pants.

    • @conallgarrison9095
      @conallgarrison9095 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i agree

    • @DavidVillaTorre
      @DavidVillaTorre 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would shit my pants too if my scapegoat that I severely crippled to make sure it didn't win suddenly won the most important battle to turn around the war

  • @fatalord1353
    @fatalord1353 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Best Star Wars lore channel fr

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    At the end of the day, Palpatine knew this would’ve been a republic victory

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah the whole point was to bolster Kamino's defences with the Kamino Guard (grey striped clones)

  • @weevil9619
    @weevil9619 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So glad we can still have comics and books to be able to learn about our favorite sci-fi stories.

  • @schurerest7661
    @schurerest7661 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    All the battles space or land love these videos about clone wars battles!

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Apparently Grevious read about the Legend of The Odyssey.. an then treated Kamino like it was Troy. Too bad the Jedi an GAR apparently didn't trust "Greeks" in this one.

    • @youngmonkey2504
      @youngmonkey2504 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Starwars is from a different, distant galaxy

  • @Gufupandi09th13
    @Gufupandi09th13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Mygeeto is the true Stalingrad

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Big respect to the clone pilots

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why? Clone pilots are crap.

  • @StonewallTitlow
    @StonewallTitlow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Putting Passel Argente in charge of a fleet is like putting a low ranked corporal in charge of an army.

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Wait you did a ground battle analysis of the Second Battle of Kamino? When? I don't remember that video and I love the second Battle of Kamino. With the exception of the season 5 premiere, which wasn't even supposed to be the Darth Maul episode as that was meant to be episode 13 which is fixed on the DVDs but the higher-ups did it anyways because of how season 4 ended, the two-parter season 3 premier was the best Clone Wars season opening ever.
    Also, if you're looking for more battles to discuss, there are plenty of blink-and-you-miss-them ones from the montages in Chapter 22 of the 2003 Clone Wars Micro-series, or there are some great battles from the Outer Rim Sieges you've yet to discuss like the Battle of New Plympto or the Battle of Murkhana, there's also the Battles of Mon Cala that took place during the Clone Wars, or the Battle of Dathomir where it was Nightsisters vs Grievous, and as much as I love the Clone Wars there are other battles from other eras that could be fun to look at too, like the Battle of Hoth or when the Empire invaded Kashyyyk in 19 BBY shortly after the Clone Wars to get those 8 Jedi that had teamed up with the Wookies. There are a lot of great battles to choose from, a lot from the Clone Wars, but some from other eras too.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video. I wonder what naval battle you'll cover next.

  • @eddieram435
    @eddieram435 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +459

    This is a side of the Clone Wars we should had seen. If Disney had tapped into this universe and steer away from Filoni'a childish approach, this conflict would had been more dark.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Well we got what we got, and we know Disney wouldn't commit.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Disney doesn’t know how to do anything Star Wars and Filoni has no idea what he’s doing, even if I don’t agree that Filoni’s approach is ‘childish’.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@teleportedbreadfor3days from what I was told he only done ten episodes of the Clone Wars.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@merafirewing6591 I don’t think that’s true. All I know is that both he and George Lucas worked on TCW together, but the idea that Filoni only did ten episodes doesn’t feel right to me.

    • @liamthompson8563
      @liamthompson8563 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Filoni understands Star Wars but for some reason, he just can't make a fully adult SW show like Andor.

  • @tk-6967
    @tk-6967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I don't think the CIS had the ability to win the 2nd battle. Grievous' flagship sat back the entire time while the Munificents just gave the republic a huge advantage.

  • @goldeagle6431
    @goldeagle6431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Senate would have won Stalingrad SINGLE-HANDEDLY.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love your channel it's so cool l will never stop watching it

  • @MandoSki464
    @MandoSki464 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just another story that deepens my love for the clones. Been into 40k much heavier over the past couple of years because of Disney but was just thinking about it earlier today and instantly told myself that regardless we still have Star Wars legends which as a mandalorian and clone fan will always mean Star Wars is my main universe. Remember watching attack of the clones in 2002 which had my young self jumping head first into Star Wars and the clones cemented that. Though can’t lie, I was definitely rooting for Jango in his duel/fight with Obi-wan in our first trip to Kamino. Thank you my friend for keeping this spirit alive and going!

  • @emmanuelmedinaMatthew92
    @emmanuelmedinaMatthew92 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you look it the battle of Mandalorian in the 7 seasons of Star Wars of the clones. that is a good battle what do you says Generation Tech. ; )

  • @OuterRimPride
    @OuterRimPride 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Lol.” -Count Dooku
    “lmao.” -Darth Sidious

  • @botondkovacs6195
    @botondkovacs6195 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Must have been a pretty stressful chessparty for Sidious.

  • @Aaronian99
    @Aaronian99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clone Wars Mimban wouldve been epic to see, wish we had more footage of it

  • @mitchcoleman1238
    @mitchcoleman1238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I expected you to cover the clone rebellion that took place in the original Battlefront 2, but I keep forgetting that’s not canon!

    • @MyCaio1997
      @MyCaio1997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He already did though...

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wasn't tarkin present at one battle of kimono. ( naval) ?

  • @trevordurkin1940
    @trevordurkin1940 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Judging by the title before watching, sounds more like the Battle of Britain to me

  • @amarured
    @amarured 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thumbnail tho 💔😭🔥🔥

  • @Falkriim
    @Falkriim 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @1989gibbi
    @1989gibbi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yularen was not the one who noted that grievous was using his smaller ships to protect his command ship. It was Shaak Ti

  • @choongweijie5851
    @choongweijie5851 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please talk about the D1 aerial battle droid in your next video please.

  • @talonnewton5486
    @talonnewton5486 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who does a lot of the renders you use in your thumbnails?

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Lessons to be learned:
    - When in doubt as a Sepper, never play the peacemongering hero during the start of a manipulative war.
    - Hyperspace rings deserve to be rendered obsolete; the future existence of craft succeeding the Jedi Aethersprites, like the A-Wings and TIE Predators, prove that point.
    - If one retcons the "first battle" away from the continuity and replaced it with a different take on the battle involving squid transport droids and some decrepit clone martyr, then you're a bastard.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, makes sense.
      Always slays me when I hear "we are keepers of the peace, not soldiers", and I'm like... bro, you're a GENERAL in the Grand ARMY of the Republic. Who are you fooling? 😅
      As for 99, he was a cool idea to see decrepit Clones and how they're treated, I think it still worked out well for representing that.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thalmoragent9344 I call it a win win.

  • @nathanweast4397
    @nathanweast4397 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wasn't this battle also won due to the new deployment of BARC speeders?

  • @natz__
    @natz__ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait the guy who built a junk Jedi temple was a fighter pilot lol

  • @Shadowpack95
    @Shadowpack95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    why did Sideous want the Mon Cala officer dead?

  • @spockamania
    @spockamania 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes me wonder; what was Sideous' plan if any of the invasions of Kamino suceeded? I have to imagine destroying clone production would have been real bad for his plan

  • @banner1390
    @banner1390 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clone Armor mk1 is the coolest!

  • @ReiMari12
    @ReiMari12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are so many moments where this war could have gone wildly f script. Palps was insanely lucky.

  • @hazat8123
    @hazat8123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Palpatine: execute order 227 no step back

  • @deltaboss1190
    @deltaboss1190 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kamino - Stalingrad
    Umbara - Vietnam

  • @jakewisher6534
    @jakewisher6534 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Long time viewer, I love your work!! I think your channel could really pop off on this side of TH-cam if you shortened the titles to the videos cause this content is too good for the views you have been getting.

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is Canon for me!

  • @ourheroartyom2900
    @ourheroartyom2900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The separatist mon calamari must have been admiral ackbars father

  • @noname-bu1ux
    @noname-bu1ux 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, but who's space Stalin? Princess leia? Luthen? Saw Guerrara? Cant be count dooku, cause hes religious.

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👍

  • @davidordaz5251
    @davidordaz5251 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And at the end of the war was all for nothing

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Weren't the Kamino cities completely abandoned by the time the Clone Rebellion happened and ended?

  • @joshuadamroth5303
    @joshuadamroth5303 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @Private.Willie.Stroker
    @Private.Willie.Stroker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    tbh clone pilots and ships where kina useless, since most cis/droid ones dint need pilots..
    if you think about it any droid fighter could just kamikaze into bridges of capital ships like the rebel did in ep6, they even had those small boarding ships that where kinda shaped like a drill bit, add a pod racer engine on it and it could just fly trough a shielded ship...

  • @Vizsla-wy3ql
    @Vizsla-wy3ql 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Clone Wars Era is basally if the Weimar Republic of Germany started, fought, and won WWII, and was then overthrown by the Fascist Party.

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not really. The Empire wasn't fascist. Also the Senate had a way lower approval rate than the Chancellor.

    • @CT-1311
      @CT-1311 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty much it makes sense

    • @jonnyv9049
      @jonnyv9049 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its a very different situation politically because the republic isnt like a nation in this World but more like a huge federation, like EU or so, it has won the war against the Seperatists and the Trade Federation behind it, at least more or less, but it was still very unstable so the ruling class need to have a more restrictive government, the fascist dictatorship the empire was, to regain order in the galaxis

  • @Courier6FNV
    @Courier6FNV 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is my man problem with star wars, they don’t really do wars well in most media aside from things like this.

  • @ice_siberia1546
    @ice_siberia1546 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Star wars helldivers is a game I really really need and I'll leave this comment everywhere so someone sees it

  • @arielfeuerstein8635
    @arielfeuerstein8635 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1.25x speed ✅

  • @Tootswilligers
    @Tootswilligers 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Considering its a fairy tale, it doesn't matter lol..

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Then why are you even here if you don't even care?!

  • @sarson25
    @sarson25 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This stream was special .