I've survived at least 5 overdoses from heroin and now have been clean for a lil over a year! As well as other potentially serious accidents! If those aren't Miracles then i don't know what is. God has freed me from depression, anxiety and so many other dark things. Praise God 4 all eternity!!
You just sound like you overcame a great hurdle by working on yourself and delusion yourself that you were saved by a third party entity. Wherein it's simply just you overcommng your struggles and self harm. But anyhow great work on your recovery
You weren’t there, you don’t know what he went through. Sometimes, people may be too weak to overcome their struggles and ultimately, the Bible is their source of peace, joy, happiness and fulfillment, and it comes from God, so therefore God does help people and it’s through His word which He lovingly provided us with.
@@Knaeben As I believe brother the Word of God are like a sound of a whistling wind that passes through the ears thus leaving no significance at all to the listeners who have a heart of stone because of the arrogance of his mouth.
Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you commit attrocities. Such is the power and evil of religion. A disturbed person is a Christian and wants to shoot up a school. The person prays and prays and prays for god to help him, but his anger is too great. He gets a gun an starts shooting innocent people, killing dozens, until He is shot by the police. As he is dying, the shooter says, "I'm sorry God...I tried but I wasn't strong enough. You have always been my saviour please forgive me for my sins...I repent..." and then dies. And your god welcomes him into heaven. During the same rampage, an atheist teacher repeatedly goes into the hallway to save the lives of students. After saving a dozen children, he is shot by the gunman and he falls inside his classroom and students lock the door. A student says they will pray for him. His response is, "Why? There is no god...." and he dies. And god sends him to hell to be tortured for eternity in the flames. And you have no problem with this. Absurdities and atrocities.
Turek's arguments work on the already converted. In order to agree that a theistic, personal god was the creator, you have to believe it to begin with. All Turek can offer is a deist and only if the premise of nothing to start is true - which isn't a safe assumption. You can't make the leap to a personal loving god from there.
yes he is doing more than other preachers...he's doing a ton of damage and harm. He consistently misrepresents scientists, atheism and what science shows us. Frank wouldn't pull this stuff on someone that has a degree in science. He needs so stop lying.
And that's just it. He doesn't want you to believe in an 'intelligent creator' or 'intelligent design', he wants you to believe in his christian god. Why doesn't he just skip trying to prove the universe was created by an 'intelligent being' and go straight to proving his christian god was responsible?
@@colossusforbin5484 he has plenty of other videos where he explains evidence for the New Testament and why the Resurrection really happened, but it’s much easier to be intellectually lazy and watch just one video and call it worthless.
@@OddssssWhere did I call it worthless? I'm just suggesting he skips past trying to prove there's a creator and go right to proving it was HIS creator that was responsible.
I’d rather go through believing and living a life for GOD and find out there isn’t one. Than to live my life not believing and found out there is a GOD.
I always thought that a wise and benevolent god appreciated good people regardless of their beliefs or disbelief. I know I would because I am a good person.
The one issue I have with this statement is that it has the element of doubt regarding God's existence. Christians aren't basing their life on a hunch that God exists. If we aren't 100% convinced, how will we have enough faith to endure any trial that we might have to endure?
James Richard Wiley Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- This pretty much sums up how you get to heaven. It’s not because of good works.
I'm kind of new to Christianity and I had no idea that there was so much objective reality to back up the case for God and so many "scientists" who just flat out deny reality. This may come as a shock to lifetime believers, but the secular world is quite convinced that the opposite is true.
Hi and welcome. There are a number of scientists who are also Christians. My favorite is Dr. Hugh Ross, the astrophysicist. He lectures and has written some very interesting books. I think the first one he wrote was Reasons To Believe. If you liked this talk, you will probably like Dr. Ross as much as I do. Blessings.
Dr Jason Lisle (?)(astrophysicists)is great too. He’s got a lot of good you tube videos. Good books are the case fore Christ by Lee Strobel and Josh McDowells books Oh and if you haven’t run across Pastor Jack Hibbs he’s awesome and Bible based. He an abortion survivor. Mom tried to abort him and he survived to lead thousands to Christ.
I don't see it. Neither does science. Note that science isn't absolute (that's why Frank hates it. He needs that anchor in his life), it's about probabilities. Randy had a prize of $1M for anyone who could prove the supernatural. The prize was never claimed. So much for "objective reality".
@@HansBezemer he doesn't hate science. he's just pointing out what the most logical conclusion is. when have you ever seen life come from non-life? How do we get order out of chaos? the logical conclusion is that there is a creator because it's scientifically impossible that everything we know and see came from nothing. the universe is chaotic, it can't put things in order on it's own. there has to be someone or something fine tuning the universe for it to work. it's like playing a musical instrument. an instrument can't play itself. a musician has to play the right notes in the correct order for it to work. Nobody can truly prove anything. All we have is evidence and the evidence points to a creator. not nothing.
@@ron7328 It's simple - the universe AS A WHOLE falls into chaos. That doesn't mean that it happens everywhere at the same rate at the same time. E.g. there is a remote chance that all molecules in a container end up in the same corner. That's how probability works. And there is no fine tuning of the universe. It's a compelling philosophical question, but there is NO PROOF whatsoever that these constants even could be different. The reason for that is very simple. We've never seen a case where 1+1 doesn't equal two. We've never seen a triangle which angles do not add up to PI radians. We've never seen a consequence preceding a cause. Hence, it's completely possible that those values cannot be different at all. I give you another example. As someone with both a CS degree and a biology degree I can tell you DNA is not nicely laid out. There are lots of duplications, inefficiencies, non-coding DNA - errors no well thinking developer would make. I've also experimented with generating code using genetic algorithms. You find the same sort of flaws in code that is generated that way. So either God is a very lousy programmer OR those sequences were generated by a genetic algorithm. Every theory is composed of pieces of evidence. When the evidence is compelling, a hypothesis becomes a theory with a higher of lower degree of certainty. In science, it's rare to find absolute truths. There is always a degree of uncertainty. However, some hypothesis have more credibility than others. The credibility of ID is quite low. There is absolutely nothing that clearly points to design. As a matter of facts, recently we found that RNA molecules can replicate and are subject to algorithmic improvements, just like DNA molecules. That you haven't seen it or believe it is inconsequential. That's merely a fallacy of incredulity. I haven't seen the sun rise this morning. Yet I reasoned that it has.
and if god is god, all these people saying he doesn t exist...the hitchens, and the dawkins saying they provide god doesn t exist...god is not worried.]
@@littlehollow , being convinced that a god exists is an action taken by a living brain. Steven Hawking's brain is no longer living, therefore he is not a theist or an atheist.
@@littlehollow , if people are making decisions based on faulty information that is a bad thing. For instance...the bible says that gays are not to be tolerated. Ok. If there is no christian God, than this is an immoral statement because there is no such thing as sin. Many people make decisions in their lives that they think are their God wishes based on their interpretations of their favorite holy book. Again, if there is no god, all of that effort is wasted. Maybe you can be the exception and provide actual evidence that a god exists...I doubt it.
@@littlehollow , life has the meaning that we give it, it's a personal thing. There is no overall meaning to life that I've seen described. My purpose is to be a good dad, brother and son, maybe husband again but that's another story entirely. A book cannot assign meaning to your life.
Jesus said, "I thank You Father, God of heaven and earth, for hiding these things from the wise and understanding and revealing them to babes, for it seemed good in Your sight." Matthew 11:25-26.
@@alexcarboni489 I mean the scam where priests, rabbis, imans, etc convince people that a god exists and they are the ones who can tell you what god wants ( and as a result have power over those people) and get those people to give them money because they have convinced those people they will be rewarded in an afterlife they have no evidence for.
@G C C M "hence why God said that Money is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL." Nope, the Bible doesn't say that. Apparently you are not very familiar with what the Bible actually says. "Or the person who believes in God?" Do you think it is moral to own another human being as property? Yes or no?
@G C C M "Yet, following Jesus you never heard him say “Theoretically, I am the way the truth and the life”." I never heard him say anything... and neither did you.
I once heard Hawking say that before the big bang time didn't exist therefore God couldn't have existed. He didn't understand that God transcends time and space. But hey he knows the truth now...
cesar leon and if you didn’t see, what other reason could debunk something that is truly logical? What else is it to believe? Something that is illogical to say that there is no God?. Ridiculous, “Atheism is so senseless. When I look at the solar system, I see the earth at the right distance from the sun to receive the proper amounts of heat and light. This did not happen by chance.” - Issac Newton. “Don’t think” that’s ironic. Lol
cesar leon if your saying it happen by chance, it’s pure ignorance, when do you see a monkey popping out of existence in your living room? Yes exactly look at other planets, most of them don’t support life and none of them have life. It could be nonsense but it isn’t, but it is even worse to believe that nothing created something and that everything is a coincidence. And Jesus actually showed himself, if randomness happens why isn’t there a monkey popping out into existence out of nothing? And there is still something in that living room making it more likely to happen there, because there is still something. Not literally nothing.
Kuffar Legion science isn’t hard to understand, atheist are the ones who doesn’t understand science. Science is for God. All science is discovering Gods work. And we should know that God let the land be curse because the fall of man but that doesn’t take away the fact that every design is made perfectly for that design. We are all still alive aren’t we? The gods are not gods because there is only one God. But that one God is all powerful and all good. John 3:16 King James Version “16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” "Scientific investigations, pushed on and on, will reveal new ways in which God works, and bring us deeper revelations of the wholly unknown." Maria Mitchell. And also Nobel prizes winners in chemistry 72.5% are Christians, 65.3% in physics, 62% medicine. Are Christians, and that was because they knew it was done by God.
@@tan1591 , in all of science, no measurement or action has ever been explained by adding a variable for a god. Turns out your god has as much impact on the world as my pet unicorn does.
worldgonemad that is the most ridiculous argument ever, looks like you were just going for an insult. It’s like adding a human to a math equation. What an idiotic thing to say. And God had the biggest impact this universe. He’s the cause. He literally came down from earth. Mostly all scientists were Christians in the scientific revolution. And your saying God did nothing? You ignore the historical evidence, you ignore the scientist, you ignore logical reasoning. You’re in denial. Like even after all that, you chose ignorance. It’s like rejecting the color of grass.
I used to be an atheist but the more I studied cosmology the more it pointed me in the direction of an intelligent agent. In a universe as unfathomable as this and a reality we can but wonder over, Jesus became absolutely plausible in my mind. Studied the bible and a lot of accompanying research and I absolutely believe in Jesus Christ, and I'm shocked. I've never been happier ❤✝️❤
I used to doubt the gospel but I realized the only thing that stops me from believing is my doubt itself. I'm glad we aren't subjectively enough to deny Dr. Turek's evidence
For you that works, but not for everyone. The more I study the more I see natural explanations for things. Someone wants to believe that okay, but it isn’t the only option to explain.
@@mr.mayonnaise2095 Ecclesiastes 5:16 17 ...this is also a grievous evil; just as he came, so shall he go; and what gain has he, that he toiled for the wind, and spent all his days in darkness and grief, in much vexation and sickness and resentment... those were his choices.
When we start asking questions about the very nature of God Himself, that leaves the physical realm and crosses over into the supernatural. The supernatural realm is not bound by the laws of physics or science. So God exists, just because He's God and that's just the way it is. Doesn't have to make sense to us. The rules of the physical realm no longer apply...
@@tomcooper6108 Trying to prove the supernatural using scientific methods is like trying to prove that the creator of a video game exists using only logic/rules in the game world. It doesn't make sense and is futile. However, by observing the game world, you can reasonably conclude that there is a creator.
@@scrub8363 you can't reasonable conclude the characteristics of that creator. This is Turek and many theists error. They may point to a deistic creator but you can't make a leap to an all knowing all powerful all loving god.
@@johnelliott5859 I agree that it is much more difficult to come to any conclusion about the characteristics of the creator, but having said that, are you implying that it is reasonable to believe that there is a creator? If so, then the main question we must discuss is "why believe the Bible vs sacred texts of other religions", at which point the person seeking the answer is no longer an atheist but rather a theist in search of the true creator/God. Is that where you stand at the moment?
@@scrub8363 it may be reasonable to believe there is a creator if you assume a universe from nothing. I don't believe this is a safe assumption and so am not convinced that a creator is required. I see that reasoning as a god of the gaps. If one did believe in a creator they would not have to be a theist, but rather a deist. There is no requirement for a personal loving creator if you agree with the Kalam argument. (I think this is a major fault in Turek and WLC's reasoning of a benevolent personal god) As far as sacred texts go, I don't see any of them that aren't refuted by science. The gap for a god to fit keeps closing.
“Jesus uttered some of the most profound sayings ever recorded. And everyone - even some of his enemies - claimed that Jesus was a man of integrity who taught the truth (Mark 12:14).”
WTF are you talking about? Here is what Mark 12:14 says: They came and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you tell the truth and are not concerned with what people think about you, since you pay no attention to a person’s status but really teach what God’s way is. Does Torah say that taxes are to be paid to the Roman Emperor, or not?” Also, going by what the Bible says, Jesus also said some of the stupidest things ever recorded.
@@paulbogle8161 Like: - take no thought for tomorrow, god will take care of you (Matthew 6:25-34, Luke 12:22-31 ) if people actually believed those words people wouldn't have insurance, retirement savings, savings for their children's education, smoke alarms, fir extinguishers, etc etc - Give to everyone who asks. Lend to everyone who wants to borrow. (Matthew 5:42, Luke 6:30, 35 ) -
@@cnault3244 I see your point. to those without faith there is no logic in that statement. But the value of a truth is not determined by how many people do or do not accept it. It either is true or is not true
The perfect answer to the "multiple universe" theory.... "You may be right. There may be multiple universes... I don't know how many God may have created. The Bible only tells us about THIS one..."
@@thebigone3437 Yes, there is. If you want the tip of the iceberg on evidence, you can first start off with a movie called The Case for Christ. It's a true story based off a book written by Lee Strobel. It's a story of an atheist doing research to disprove Christ. Also there's a documentary called A Case for Christ, it examines Jesus's burial cloth. Start with the movie though. I hope this helps. God bless.
@@grizzley409 Thank you. I'll look at Lee Strobel first. If the contents in documentaries are true, there shouldn't be any religious bias, but present the evidence as they are.
There isn't any evidence of multiple universes so the bible's lack of information regarding the universes structure isn't surprising. The bible doesn't even know that other planets exist, the moon is a place you can go, the sun is a million times bigger than the Earth, and that the atmosphere thins to become outer space that makes up almost the entire universe. Yeah, the bible doesn't tell us about other universes. It literally only talks about our planet as if it is the entire universe because that's what bronze age mythology tells them. The bible is so incorrect about the nature of reality that you shouldn't looking for them to explain any universe, including ours.
@@thebigone3437 the way he talks about something from nothing and tries to say that thats the atheistic view. some might think that but most dont. So he is either dishonest or he dosnt know what he is talking about
@@trepinne6840 I think it's the latter, a lot of Christian videos that talk about atheists build up a straw man of what an atheist is, and provide counter arguments that go nowhere in practice.
@@thebigone3437 i would agree. I think in general thats the biggest and most occuring issue. And it should be the first and easiest point: present the actuall position and not, as you say, a strawman.
The only problem with this vid is that he said, the creator of the universe is a he. No, it was a she. It was a female entity that waa responsible for creating the universe. The he god which is man is responsible for creating the universe on earth. Man is the god of the bible and the ruler of this world or universe but not the creator of the universe (space, planets, earth, stars etc). Don't get it confused or twisted. They are separate entities. Nonetheless, the speaker was right about many things he said esp about Steven Hawkins lmsolllllllll
@@skyjack8541 , how did you come to be convinced of your claims? What evidence led you to believe the universe has a concious creators?And how did you determine the sex of these creators?
@@ilovestargazing4991 I think the main issue is that Philosophers can sometimes act like they know just as much as the scientists who have studied a particular subject. That is why there is friction.
Key Quote: "Science doesn't say anything ; Scientists do..." And then they frequently mix unbelieving philosophy with some Science thus deceiving the unwary. "Take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.."
science is just the most consistently reliable method humanity has developed for finding out why/how the universe is. claims about gods or any other supernatural things are by definition out of the scope of science. unless you claim those gods/demons/djinn/ori/ pixies/ magic universe-creating sandwiches/etc somehow affect the real world. in that case your claim can be tested if you make it specific enough
@@sabin97 Sure, much agreed. The Scientific methods limitation is that it cannot measure or assess non-physical things. So it's useless to verify or falsify Metaphysics: those realities that are Spiritual & Mental: How much does Love weigh ? Hate ? Truth ? History ? These things lack all physical reality, yet they control or effect all Physical reality. This is why using so called "Scientific" objections to God's existence are fallacious. When a prominent (Atheist) Scientist stands up & declares "God MUST not exist because we can't locate or measure Him", watch out. That man has just stepped outside the realm of Science into Philosophy, but either hasn't recognized it or isn't being honest about his Transition. He's now operating as a Materialist but making absolute claims about a Metaphysical reality Science can't speak to. At best he's confused - at worst he's an covert Evangelist for Athestic Materialism, yet unaware of both his predilections against God's Ordained Spiritual reality OR the limits of Scientific observation. The Truth is we all know God us our CREATOR, Father & Redeemer from within ourselves - God has whispered this in our Conscience, shown it in Nature & Written it in His WORD. As Romans 1 describes in exquisite detail - anyone who denies GOD are without excuse....
@@peachywe4310 , how much love weighs has nothing to do with whether or not a god exists. Says absolutely nothing about the character of any god being.
Richard Dawkins... the guy said he would believe in God if God were to come down from heaven and announce with a booming voice, “I am God.” Then seconds later he backtracked and said, even so, how do I know it’s not someone doing something with special effects? If they don’t believe, they don’t believe. Won’t miss them.
Daniel Braddock, I wouldn’t say he “debated” Hitchens as much as he shared a stage with Hitch, who summarily proceeded to hand Turek his own ass in front of a live audience.
kegsofvomitspit - well sure....if you're an atheist you'd think that. If God would just come down to earth and show Himself I'd believe......wait, He did !
Tim Green - well sure......if you’re a Christian you would think that. If only Gawd would manifest himself into a human so he can sacrifice himself to himself to appease himself. Oh wait...........you think he did........ lol
why were you losing your faith? seems like you should've kept going. mr turke is an out and out liar, he is saying hawking said things hawking NEVER DID.
Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
there may well be a god, but has it occured to you that all you have to go on is god's word? god telling you he is great and you can come to heaven sounds like a scam to me, especially as "oh you get this onetime offer after you are dead" when you can't change your mind. i have this theory that god prefers atheists, that religion is designed to sort out people who just suck up, who want to get into heaven regardless of the cost, and will do anyyhting to stay out of hell, is that sincere? cos only an atheist can act sincerely - we have no fear of hell, no expectation of heaven, we do things becuse we think they are RIGHT, regardless of the consequences. religion was invneted so god can pick out all the people that just suck up to him, he really wants people with the GUTS to defy him.
@@HarryNicNicholas I respect your view. I can only and will only speak for myself. I know God exists because I've met Him. Once I believed in Him a relationship began to develop between Him and I. Everytime a shred of doubt enters my mind, He shows up and shows me in the most powerful ways who He is, that He loves me and that I belong to Him. I need no further convincing. In talking to you, I have no ulterior motive to try and convince you. I am intrinsically a selfish and self centered person. So if not to convince myself and if not to gain from you... Why would I bother replying to you? you may think that I just have a need to be "right". I assure you, if that were the case, I would take pleasure in the thought that one day you would know what I know, albeit, to late. That is not the case! I stopped what I was doing to answer this at length because the thought of you spending eternity outside of His presence makes me ill. It breaks my heart. Yes I told you I was intrinsically selfish. He changed that about me in a drastic way. You are not a bad person but you were born into a world where sin and death exist. Every single one of us is guilty. You were created for eternal life. You just need to choose whether or not you want to spend it in the presence of the Father who CANNOT have sin in his presence. He gave you a way out and all you have to do is accept His free gift and turn from your sin. You have free will. You have his instruction manual. If you choose wisely and do so with a contrite heart you will be given access to the Spirit of God to help you gain understanding. You will enter into the Body of Christ (which is all of us). and you will have everlasting life with The Father. I beg you, friend, to choose Life.
"The nature of the universe is to come out of nothing. Nothing has interesting properties." The physicists must been smoking weed before they said that.
@@nakkadu No. Magic is an illusion or trick, miracles are not. We never claim that it's magic when a person who has been in a coma for ten years comes out of it suddenly and makes a full recovery. It's always called a miracle.
I think Larry Norman said it best. The reason we don't have any clear thinkers anywhere in the world anymore, is that, "We shot all our dreamers and there's no-one left to lead us."
@@gregorymoore2877 I was listening to that song today actually. Just popped up on my random selection in the car. Also 'Christmas Time' which was kinda apt. Still resonates. 🙂
Frank Turek, You are so inspiring and well-spoken and a very incredible teacher and person. The way You speak, tell things & respect everybody is unbelievable.
@@choosen1130 "nothing can't create something" And something that does not exist cannot create something. With no evidence being presented for a god existing, there is no reason to believe a god created anything.
*Ecclesiastes 3 verse 11 : He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end.* God give men the understanding of eternity. But human cannot find out what God does from beginning to the end. He did that so human learns to be humble.
God is at least as valid as any other answer, when they say we don't know what created everything out of nothing. Yet...they refuse to even consider it really- because they love their sin and pretending they will not be judged by God on the Day of the Lord!
no god is not as valid. you might as well say pixies are as valid, or elves are as valid. how on earth do you get through life choosing fantasy over reality? if you making decisions based on stuff you can't even experience you must have a real rollercoaster of a life.
That isn't how scientists explain the big bang so your explanation isn't equally valid. At all. You're looking at a spot where they say there is no evidence and you're saying that all explanations are equally valid as a way to insert magic where there isn't any.
All lot of believers praise god for helping them/miracles but frank has said that god does not intervene with us so as not to Tamper with free will. Example: why does god not destroy child molesters. God does not want to mess with the free will of the molester, but will stay idle and watch a believer pray/beg him for help. This confuses me. Please clarify if you can.
God Bless You all. All Glory Honor Praise Worship and Thanksgiving to God. Jesus is King. Thank You God for absolutely everything. Thank You Jesus for absolutely everything. Thank You Holy Spirit for absolutely everything
ITS OFFICIAL - ATHEISM IS A FAITH BASED RELIGION ! ATHEISM IS A RELIGION according to a 2005 Wisconsin Federal Court ruling on the matter of Kaufman v. McCaughtry, as well as the Torcaso v. Watkins case that was affirmed by the 1961 U.S. Supreme Court--the highest court in the land--where court rulings become national law. The Supreme Court has said , "A RELIGION NEED NOT BE BASED ON THE BELIEF IN A SUPREME BEING." The court described “SECULAR HUMANISM AS A RELIGION.". Meanwhile, a London based ATHEIST church (yes, you heard me right, ATHEIST CHURCH ), known as the Sunday Assembly, has announced it will open Sunday atheist missionary churches in 22 cities across Britain, United States and Australia. The London based Sunday service meets with its followers on a Sunday morning (just like a real church), which included a sermon (that's propaganda to you and me), singing and free tea and coffee at the end so all the atheists can discuss their faith amongst fellow believers. Well, now you know - atheism has its own church - its own religious creed (evolution), its own Pope (Darwin) and now its been officially recognized by the Supreme Court of the United States as a religion proving that it IS possible not to believe in God and still be recognized by the highest court in the land that Atheism is a FAITH BASED RELIGION ! Show less
Jenny klarke According to Wikipedia, a RELIGION is.... A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.[note 1] Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and/or to explain the origin of life or the Universe Yep, Atheism is most definitely a religion.
It seems to me Stephen Hawking miraculously surviving such a horrid disease and in his anger about his suffering spend his life rejecting God, reaching and convincing millions, is the perfect setup for the possibility of something BIG. His story is not over yet, so I will pray for him and others like him.
I jumped off a storey building broke 3 bones in both feet and two bones in my right wrist. The one treating me said it’s take 1 and a half year to be a 100% ok. This was before I got born again btw. In about 2 to 3 months I was walking and those who saw me come in and had been there longer than me were surprised. If that ain’t a miracle, I don’t know what is
@@therick363 cool. What is it called when it destroys the said time of healing and exceeds everyone’s expectations. Especially when u don’t take a balanced diet?
@@user-uk9ss8gi5n when someone believes that much in their own intelligence as a result of their accomplishments in their professional lives, sometimes they become blinded by the most useful simple truths
Thank you Father God Yahweh ✝️ 🛐 And Pastor Frank Turek. 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
This is the 21st century dumbass, stop talking that way. And actually, I should say that it's the 28th century since the founding of Rome, since I wouldn't want to use your silly calendar that counts time from the birth of some random hobo Jew. Also, Yahweh was just some random god of storms that became the national god of Israel, but was worshiped alongside many other gods in the Hebrew pantheon, and Yahweh only became the only god of the Hebrews when the Jews removed all of the other gods from their pantheon, due to the rise of Jewish nationalism and the Jews wanting to destroy their similarities with the Babylonians, which was in turn due to the Babylonian Captivity. So the only reason that the Abrahamic religions, which are the most popular religions in the world, are monotheistic and not polytheistic, is the arbitrary actions of King Nebuchadnezzar II. So you're living an arbitrary lie.
Exactly. A universe coming from nothing is less likely to happen than staring at an empty bag of jelly beans and waiting for it to fill up. At least theres some random odds however astronomical that the jelly beans appear since there is something for them to appear from. Pretend your in a nothing waiting for the universe to appear, what are the odds it happens? Who knows, odds dont exist, no material concepts exist, neither does chance, opportunity, intention, randomness, or even remote possibility much less impossibility. Concepts dont exist in nothing or the possibility of any of the concepts I listed above. In a nothing space, nothing is possible, not even miracles......unless God exists.
Ok y’all can atleast give respect. Hawkings was a brilliant scientist that dared to search for answers besides presuming a conclusion. If he was alive in a debate, he would of gave a lot of theologians a hell of a ride in debates.
@@guyjosephs5654 how familiar are you with what you're arguing against, I bet you don't read anything or watch anything from the perspective of a creationistcfor example
@@quantumfrost9467 I actually do my best to keep an open mind when listening to anyone. I have listened to what Frank has said about many aspects of science, and atheism and scientists. He either doesn’t do his research and talks about it, or he does and is purposely misrepresenting what he’s learned.
A sidenote: One can know one is dreaming without waking up. If you close your nose and try to breathe through it, you cannot when you are awake. If you're dreaming though, your respiratory system is at function while your body is in a paralysis, so in your dream you will be able to breathe through your nose while closing your nose. Off course, initially you would have to know that this is not possible while awake in order to use it as a way to distinguish the state of dreaming and being awake. Great lecture!
Michael, why do you insist that hell is a torture chamber? It's rather a classic and inaccurate view. Hell is just separate from God, much like sin is the absence of God. If you or anyone else, God forbid, ends up in isolated hell, it will be because you chose to separate yourself, not because you're imperfect. Remember, Jesus is the reconciliation, median, and propitiation for your imperfections in comparison to God's perfect standards. All you really need to do is accept that. Simple as that.
"Hell is just separate from God, much like sin is the absence of God." - So, your god notion does not include omnipresence? "God's perfect standards" - What perfect standard are you claiming? Passages such as Deuteronomy 20:10-14: Conquest, Mass Murder, Slavery, & Rape seem to make such statements absurd...
Buddy, Omnipresence just says you have the power to be present, which entails the power to become absent. God would not be present in hell because he is the sum of all good.
Alfredo Castro 1) So, your notion of omnipresence as claimed in your god notion is a power that can be activated and deactivated as opposed to a supposed state of being? 2) You don't see a contradiction between the idea of all good and the idea of supposed creator of hell? Which is better to you eternal torture or non-existence? I am left to wonder amount what people call good given the horrors that some consider to be good at least from my notions.
***** lol, I never mentioned God didn't create hell. Listen buddy, your attempts to disprove or discredit God by sheerly anthropomorphizing Him are clearly outdated and it is a very poor excuse not to believe. Who said He wants to do anything about it? Are you implying there should be no justice, and people should do whatever seems fit to them by their own disgraceful standards? You make your own choice to enter a realm of complete isolation from the presence of God. It's not the professor's fault that the student failed his class, but it is the student's lack of self-discipline, integrity, and motivation. Don't blame the professor, you make your own choices. Take some responsibility for once.
Alfredo Castro "You make your own choice to enter a realm of complete isolation from the presence of God." - No evidence for the claim of a God existing, which makes claims such as yours worthless. You are of course free to make up all sorts of notions, but in the absence of evidence (demonstrable cause/effect linkage) for existence, your claims are on par with claiming any number of fictions as truth. There is no discrediting a concept which has NEVER been shown to be, since, given the absence of evidence all claims of god (deity) are arguments from ignorance.
As a Christian i would point out that Hawking says It Appears to be fine tuned, meaning he believes it’s only fine tuned in appearance not that it actually is. However the mathematical odds of the seemingly fine tuned universe happening out of Randomness and not an Advanced Mind similar to that of Man’s, are so astronomically enormous that it would’ve took a Miracle for them to happen. which would then prove the existence of Miracles which are defined as “a highly improbable or extraordinary event, development, or accomplishment that brings very welcome consequences.” Hawking then contradicts himself.
Greetings to all. This video is very informative, whether we like, believe or not this Preacher talk tons of sense something we all should pond with. God bless him and his work.
@username 60fps well when I get directed here and then watch what he’s saying about atheists and or science....yes I’m going to comment. You can say it’s “spam” but it’s not. It’s someone not being okay with what’s being said. Frank should know better. He’s been doing this long enough
@@cadenorris4009 well right away he says “no one created something out of nothing (atheistic view)” While there may be a _few_ atheists who think that, the vast majority don’t. And it would be more accurate to say scientists not atheists. Why? Because that isn’t an atheistic thing-atheism is a response to a singular question-is there a god or gods. From there people can develop various philosophies and world views. So Frank saying it like that is misrepresenting atheism. That’s just one thing he has done in the past.
so you're another one who doesn't care about your faith but just wants to win, no wonder you're on frank's page, he lied and misrepresented hawking from the first moment of this, you sound like a real nice christian too. what's christianity about again? cos it appears these days all you lot want to do is win arguments, atheist bash and dictate what people can and can't do, while being hypocrits yourself. it's really easy to fact check hawking, everything he ever said was kept, go fact check frank, cos frank here is lying from start to finish.
For anyone wondering where the "quantum vacuum," meaning the quantum fluctuations in the vacuum, come form, they are a result of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. This is a very well-known fact in physics. He could have just looked this up. Also, by "because there is a force like gravity, the universe can come from nothing," Professor Hawking was saying that because gravitational fields *naturally* have a negative energy, unlike negative energy fields that arise in positive-negative energy pairs in the vacuum solely because of the uncertainty principle, they can arise along with positive energy fields in the positive-negative energy pairs that arise from quantum fluctuations in the vacuum (depending on which theory of quantum gravity is true) and actually stay there, rather than being there for a limited time determined by the uncertainty principle, and this could've been what happened at the Big Bang. So what Hawking was saying made perfect sense and was perfectly coherent, but Turek took the statement out of context and acted like what Hawking said was insane, which makes me think that Turek is intentionally lying to get people to believe what he's saying, rather than just being deluded. So for anyone that believes what Turek is saying, and believes that a god must exist, then why would Turek have to intentionally lie like this to get people to believe in a god?
@@toluwaniojo4469 I find it interesting that your definition included the word "is". This implies an existence of the thing you are attempting to define. Can non-being *be* ? Really thinking about that because it is a philosophical problem. There is no reason to think there ever *was* nothing at any *time* (also something, by the way) An oversimplified understanding of "nothing" results in an oversimplified understanding of everything. No wonder people still believe in gods in 2021.
@@Lamster66 I think i missunderstood your other question i think we have the same point we just battleing something e just agree on. Sory my english is not perfect :p
Frank I have a question... if the conclusions of Hawking's book are the result of material determinism, does the fact that they are the result of material determinism alone make those conclusions wrong? I don't see how you can proof that is the case. The fact that an idea be the result of material determinism does not necessarily makes it false or just an illusion. Does it? and if so, how can you prove that conclusion?
@@theprogrammer8200 Pretty much every isolated civilisation on earth has made up its own myths and legends regarding origins. It is human nature to make stuff up when we don't have all the facts and Christianity is no different. The vague, self-fulfilling prophecies aren't evidence. The "history of humanity" isn't even true. You are convinced of old superstition and woo woo my friend. We exist in a natural universe, not a magical one. :)
@@TheTruthKiwi If you someday are desperate enough to search for the truth, you will find Jesus. Try asking him with your mouth, if he exists. Just try it and you will have your prove.
@@theprogrammer8200 People are afraid of dying and need a magical security blanket which is why they believe in the supernatural. The universe doesn't owe us anything my friend, mainly because it can't. As far as we really know for sure it is just matter and energy. Spirits and the supernatural claims are just assertions and assumptions made by indoctrinated, scared, gullible people that want to be immortal. Here's a test for you. Tonight, go into a room by yourself, turn the light on and ask Jesus to flick the light off and on 3 times. He's an omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent entity right? It should be easy for him to do it. Come back after and tell me how it went and be honest.
@Ben Shapiro 0:12 "No one created something out of nothing (atheistic view)" First of all, nobody cares what the atheistic view says about the origins of the universe; atheism provides science with nothing. The scientific view, the view that provides actual evidence, is that there's no reason to believe that "someone" created the universe. If Turek wants to advance the theistic view a millimeter, he needs to address the scientific evidence, not the opinions of atheists. Turek's ignorance begins with the dichotomy he presents in the first seconds of this video. The rest is a very long and impetuous corollary.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Other than you read it in a book, show everyone the evidence that the Big Bang was god speaking and saying "let there be light". Cold, hard, definite evidence please. Thanks.
@@teeboiimunchies3261 You read Deuteronomy 13:13-19:21 and let me know what your religion tells you to do if someone worships a different god to yours. Don't waffle, or distract, tell everybody proudly what your religion orders you to do if someone in a town worships a different god. Go.
@@TonyEnglandUK not a religion and I think that's where most people get it wrong. A religion is a system put in place to segregate the minds of people into believing in different gods than the one true God who actually created them and everything that ever existed.
The premise is wrong to begin with - "Something" was not created out of "nothing." The point is, the stuff already existed. God simply commanded the elements, and organized it into worlds. God is not God because he snaps his fingers and makes things happen. God is God because He knows all things and makes His purpose our salvation. We must choose to participate in God's plan or it serves no purpose for us.
I agree, but the only reason you knew you were dreaming is because the dreamworld is inconsistent with reality, and we somehow pick up on that. We have something to compare it to. If we were in the matrix, we would have no "objective reality" to compare our experience to, so we would just thing that is the real reality.
I feel sorry for Steve hawking.He died living his life as a vegetable only to find out that his miserable life here on earth was the only heaven he would know compared to where he's at now
That’s your opinion and and belief. I respect you to your own, but what you said can’t be demonstrated. And why would he be in hell? He didn’t believe in a god. So?
@@guyjosephs5654 thank you for for the respectful comment.uts not so much opinion as it is belief.Just because he didnt believe in God doesn't mean that God does not exist...HE is very real and His word very clearly states where all unbelievers go after this life.God loves you and sent his son for you...He's waiting for you to call out to Him...I respectfully urge you to seek him.there is no reason under the sun to go through this life trials and troubles...just to go to hell.once again thank you
@@jimmydykes7961 there may well be a god, but has it occured to you that all you have to go on is god's word? god telling you he is great and you can come to heaven sounds like a scam to me, especially as "oh you get this onetime offer after you are dead" when you can't change your mind. i have this theory that god prefers atheists, that religion is designed to sort out people who just suck up, who want to get into heaven regardless of the cost, and will do anyyhting to stay out of hell, is that sincere? cos only an atheist can act sincerely - we have no fear of hell, no expectation of heaven, we do things becuse we think they are RIGHT, regardless of the consequences. religion was invneted so god can pick out all the people that just suck up to him, he really wants people with the GUTS to defy him.
@@HarryNicNicholas you do not understand salvation.just saying God is great or I've been a good boy dont cut it.God sent his son Jesus to die for our sins..if you want to go to heaven you confess your sins ,ask for forgiveness,and ask Him to come into your heart...salvation is more than just getting into heaven..its a relationship with God through His Son Jesus Christ..His spirit becomes part of you and you walk and talk with Him on a daily basis...Knowing God is not some scam
Mr. Turek thank you for these videos. I am with you on much if not all that you have been saying. Except, you can know your dreaming when your dreaming. Blessings 💝
Creating such a perfect world with this amazing universe means someone must have designed it, such a greater power has to be even more magnificent and greater than his creation. So how was this deity came about? Out of nothing? Seems religión doubts all science explanations for the creation of the universe due to the assertion there is no way something van came out of nothing but that same assertions doesn’t apply to their god.
Dont see any assertions. its called logic hawkins had no logic theist actually have reason and logic to explain things rather than pulling it out of their butts. For ex. If the universe exist that means the creator had to be spaceless timeless and immaterial. It isnt an assertion its assertion based on the reason
@@Wdym41 lol .. before saying god is timeless and out of this reality , u have to demonstrate that he exists in the first place.. And you are asserting the universe had to have a creator without any data to back it up. And that's ur best argument ... An assertion without evidence is your best argument...so there you go .. straight out of your butt ! You poor deluded soul 😢
@@Wdym41 the deluded aren't aware of their misplaced intellect 🤗.. it's ok .. when you die and find no heaven to go to , you will understand ... Oh ! I forgot ... You won't understand ... Why ? .because you will be freaking dead !
Frank's last ascertain, you only know you're dreaming when you wake up, is wrong. You can know you're dreaming consciously, it's called lucid dreaming, and it's awesome. I have 2 or 3 a month, and I am amazed everytime I have 1.
I think it’s more about the idea that if you never woke up you wouldn’t know you were dreaming. The state of “awake” has to exist to contrast “dreaming”
I think you worded it fine. Some times I think of God in a deistic way. Maybe he's just cruising by making planets. There are so many. I really want to believe but I feel foolish when I say it out loud and my questions never get answered. I'm glad you're not just reading scripture to me. I find it annoying when people do that, so thank you.
Thank you for addressing this. Most of it flew over my head but I know God is real and I know that by his grace and only his grace am I here able to write this testimony.
Meaning. His first question within himself was, "How can all these things be without a God" and he believes that with fantastical dreams he can support the idea that there isnt one.
Yeah thats it, if peoples dont know about some thing they will consider it as god or an activity of god, in ancient times peoples used to worship sun, moon and other stars about which they were not aware of
Or there is God. I don't think an atheist throwing that claim out there has anything more to add if they aren't there to provide some kind of solution to the God conundrum.
@@leyonmathew That’s called the god of the gaps argument. If you watch Frank’s presentation, you will find that he isn’t making that argument. He makes both valid and sound deductive arguments from evidence. The god of the gaps argument is just a scape goat atheists use when they don’t understand their opponent’s position and that is the first mistake of debate.
@@jaxsonfanta5420 there may well be a god, but has it occurd to you that all ou have to go on is god's word? god telling you he is great and you can come to heaven sounds like a scam to me, especially as "oh you get this onetime offer after you are dead" when you can't change your mind. i have this theory that god prefers atheists, that religion is designed to sort out people who just suck up, who want to get into heaven regardless of the cost, and will do anyyhting to stay out of hell, is that sincere? cos only an atheist can act sincerely - we have no fear of hell, no expectation of heaven, we do things becuse we think they are RIGHT, regardless of the consequences. religion was invneted so god can pick out all the people that just suck up to him, he really wants people with the GUTS to defy him.
Question: If someone made something out of nothing, then there was no "nothing" in the first place, there actually was "someone" hence, there was also something. Someone can't "be" nothing. So even if there was a God, what was before him? "God is Eternal", you'll say. So there was never nothing? I don't get it. There was always something then? If so, there is no need to create something out of nothing. Then there is no need for someone to create something, because something always existed. Either you define God as nothing (Stop the argument right away, that's just ridiculous) or you blend some other weird theory in there. Could someone explain me this?
Gian-Marco Moder One has to take into account what the definition of "nothing" is as dependent upon with whom one is talking with the definition of "nothing" is actually something. It is rather confusing if one takes the normal definition of "nothing" as what is being talked about. There has always been God. Thus there has never been nothing. God per the Bible is not material He is a Spirit (John 4:24). God has always been, He is the Alpha and Omega who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty (Revelation 1:8). People who believe in God and give God credit for creating everything (logic, physics, mathematics, gravity, universe, all life including you and me) understand that God has always existed and thus there was never, nothing... there always was and will always be God. God created everything from His Almighty power and spoke everything material and immaterial (logic, physics, mathematics, gravity, universe, all life including you and me) into existence and time started. Those people who do not have a belief in God and/or claim that God doesn't exist however, have to admit per scientific discoveries, that the universe had a beginning (which many call the big bang). There is only speculation by these people about how the universe started - some claim that there was a point smaller than a period (.) called a singularity which for whatever reason exploited at just the right timing to create the universe in such specific means to support life (you and me). These people who do not have a belief in God and/or claim that God does not exist, have no explanation as to what a singularity is/was OR how the singularity came to be OR what caused it to explode AND per no one being able to go back in time to perform scientific tests on what actually happened, none of these people can ever actually affirm their speculation about a singularity existing and exploding at precisely the exact rate and expanding at exactly correct timing to create everything and support life (you and me). Let alone can any of these people who have no belief in God and/or claim that God does not exist explain why there is immaterial logic, physics, mathematics, etc. or even show that life came from nonlife (rocks). There is only evidence of one universe; the one we live in... only speculation exists for multiverses created by the people who do not believe in and/or claim God does not exist. For anyone who wants to claim that multiverses exist which is why our universe exists begs the question, how did the multiverse come into existence? I hope this helps.
FindingTruthToday You are doing the same as Turek -- constantly stating your own assumptions and voids of knowledge as fact. You operate from a biased perspective: that there is definitely a God no matter what. So it really doesn't matter what science reveals or what theoretical scientists "speculate." You will always assume that they are wrong and you are right. But regardless, I'll address a few of your points specifically. . . 1) "There has always been God." Thank you for at least stating your bias clearly up front. There is no evidence for God. Yes, there is good reason for questioning the nature and origins of reality, but no reason to conclude that a god did it. The God hypothesis could turn out to be true, but this is unlikely since there has been no evidence thus far supporting it. 2) "There is only speculation by these people about how the universe started." Well now you're just pulling a Turek. To dismiss all of the cosmic observations, centuries of scientific research, theoretical science, computer simulations, and real-world results of this quest (a-bomb, space exploration, super computers, particle accelerators to name a few) as nothing more than "speculation" is absurd. The word "theory" does not equate to "speculation." A scientific theory successfully explains all evidence (observational/experimental, and mathematical) that has ever been found. It has survived the skepticism, the scientific scrutiny, and stood the test of time. Have you heard of Edwin Hubble? He worked for THOUSANDS of hours before he noticed that his data revealed that the universe is expanding. This was not "speculation." This was anything but. The big bang theory is no more speculative than the theory of gravity or the theory of evolution. But to those who don't understand the theories or the evidence, it's easy to dismiss them as "speculation." 3) "These people...have no explanation as to what a singularity is..." Speak for yourself. I happen to understand what a singularity is on a basic level, but since I'm not a high-level mathematician, I admit that this understanding is limited. The best explanation that I've found for a singularity can be found in QST (quantized space theory). I recommend "Einstein's Intuition" by Thad Roberts. Fascinating. I walked away with an understanding of space and time that I honestly believe Einstein himself did not have. Granted, there have been many developments in the 100 years since Einstein started his quest. But anyway, the point is that YOU have no explanation. It might be true that no one has an explanation, but you cannot assume such a stance. You should only speak for yourself or quote specific people. 4) "Let alone can any of these people who have no belief in God and/or claim that God does not exist explain why there is immaterial logic, physics, mathematics, etc." This is the same as point 3 above. Speak for yourself! Imagine the responses you might have gotten if instead of claiming that no one has an explanation, you instead framed it as a question. "Can any of these non-believers explain why there is immaterial logic...?" That way, rather than pushing people away, you might trigger some thoughts and conversation. Plus, your original point would still be made through implication. But when I come across people who assume rather than inquire, it's usually because they have an agenda to accomplish. I'd ask what your agenda is, but you've already stated it. 5) ". . .only speculation exists for multiverses created by the people who do not believe in and/or claim God does not exist." Once again, a baseless assumption. Turek is also great at making statements like this. The multiverse theory came from theoretical scientists working on mathematical models which could potentially explain our ONE universe. Unfortunately for them, the refinements that they made to those theories -- in efforts to align them with our observations -- also affected the implications of the math. The multiverse theory is not some dreamt-up speculation. It is what the math alludes to (at least in string theory and quantum mechanics). Similar to how Hubble discovered the expanding universe, but different because these are mathematical models rather than spectroscopic data. 6) ". . .how did the multiverse come into existence?" I'm so glad you asked! The best explanation that I have found so far is QST (quantum space theory). Thad Roberts explains QST brilliantly in his new book, "Einstein's Intuition." The book as been in the oven for several years (I actually read a draft of it years ago before it was published), and it was finally released a few months ago. einsteinsintuition.com/buy-the-book/ I can't recommend the book highly enough. If and when the larger scientific community begins to take this more seriously, I believe that we are in store for another great scientific revolution. Of course, Christians will do what they always do: find something else that we don't understand and say "God did it." I used to do this myself. I would always find ways to tie God into whatever new scientific information came my way. But eventually there came a point when I had to consider whether God really fit into the equation. For me, the answer was no. I could not remain curious and open-minded, yet simultaneously believe in the Bible. But the journey is very personal; I understand this now. To each his own! Hope this helps, Aaron
aarongrooves You constantly stating your own assumptions and voids of knowledge as fact. So it doesn’t matter the abundance of evidence pointing to God, you will always assume that God doesn’t exist because you ignore all the evidence pointing to God existing. I’ll address a few of your points specifically: You claim that there is no evidence supporting God existing. What specific evidence will you accept of God existing? You claim that I dismiss all the cosmic observations and centuries of scientific research, theoretical science, computer simulations, and real-world results of this quest (a-bomb, space exploration, super computers, particle accelerators to name a few) which I do not dismiss any of it. Yet you are ignoring that all humans (including you and me and everyone past, present, and future) are limited to only observing evidence and speculating based upon one’s worldview to what caused what is being observed to occur or have occurred. Your worldview which doesn’t accept God existing, has to constantly break Occam's razor. Since there is no evidence supporting God creating everything in your atheistic worldview, multiverse and other atheistic theories are really just a substitute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. At a minimum purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe. You claim to know what a “singularity” is on a basic level… well, from where did the singularity come? For what reason did the singularity explode? What caused the singularity during its explosion to regulate precisely the amount of time needed for everything in the universe to be able to support life here on earth? How do you know God didn’t do it? Please explain why in your materialistic worldview there are immaterial things such as logic, physics, mathematics, etc.? Have you ever considered that God created them? You claim that multiverses are based on observations yet as already stated in #2 above multiverses break Occam’s razor. The “anthropic principle”-the idea that the physical features of our world are ideally suited for life on earth, has been an annoyance to atheists who believe that our universe and life on earth are products of random processes. It has been difficult for atheists to explain even the physical constants of the universe without resorting to some sort of “intelligent design” position thus atheists created a multiverse to the rescue! The notion that parallel universes exist is not a new idea. The latest versions of the multiverse concept postulate that there exist other realities in which even the physical laws which govern our universe are different. Thus, given enough time and enough realities, random processes could result in absolutely anything. And the random processes which produced “us” are just the only ones we know about. The multiverse to an atheist comes as necessity and as a matter of faith, and not even the kind of faith held by Bible-believing creationists who are able to see that no valid indisputable scientific observations violate God’s Word. Yet reputable secular scientists are able to freely discuss their faith-filtered scientific opinions on the multiverse question while mocking the positions held by creation scientists. You seem to have great faith in the multiverse and even read a book about it… How curious it is that the scientifically supportable information in the Bible is mocked while atheistic faith in a multiverse; which by definition is allowed to violate any scientific laws needed, is esteemed and revered by atheists! While multiverse notions make good fodder for sci-fi, we in the real world need to remember that the idea represents one more effort to randomize God out of the reality human beings must face in this world and the next. See #2 and #5 above Yes, you are correct in that the journey is very personal. For each and every one God lets us make up his/her own mind on accepting Him or not. God does not force anyone to be with Him who chooses to not want to be with Him. I hope you change your mind before it is too late for you to do so.
FindingTruthToday Sorry for the delay. It's that time of year when things get a little crazy. I'll try to keep this one shorter! (In retrospect, I definitely failed. Haha!) You seem to have ignored most of what I said except the first paragraph, when you echo my words back at me: "You constantly stating your own assumptions and voids of knowledge as fact." But just because you say it doesn't make it true. I make it very clear when I offer my opinion as opposed to when I state current theory. I even said, in my last comment, "The God hypothesis could turn out to be true, but this is unlikely..." I hardly state anything as definitive. Absolute certainty is something that I lost long ago. Religious people, on the other hand, seem very comfortable being 100% positive that they are right. Of course, if you were any less than 100%, then you wouldn't be Christian. So I guess you are required to close your mind and reject doubt in order to be a true believer... There's no such thing as an "atheistic" theory. A theory is a theory. All scientific theories are currently accepted by people of many different belief or non-belief systems. The Pope accepts evolution, although many of his followers reject it. But evolution is no more "atheistic" than red wine is Christian. You asked, "What specific evidence will you accept of God existing?" I'd except God materializing in my room right now and saying, "I am God, and I am real." I would except God miraculously transforming my 4 1/3 octave marimba into a 5-octave marimba. I'd except ANY miracle! But anecdotal evidence doesn't count, because I can't experience someone else's miracle. And if it's not a miracle, then why attribute it to anything other than nature? Occam's razor is often distorted, used inappropriately in a subjective manner, which happens quite commonly. However, one can't use Occam's razor to validate a conclusion based on ignorance. For instance, if someone already believes that the first human was created by blowing into the chopped up body parts of a dead beaver (a Native American creation myth), then to them, that makes the most sense; they could claim by Occam's razor that this story is true, because it's clearly the most simple and straightforward explanation. But this is not how Occam's razor works. Occam's razor must be used in conjunction with real-life evidence, or at the very least, information that can be shared and its accuracy verified. One person's "logical explanation" is not sufficient. Unfortunately, each of your invocations of Occam's razor is of this distorted variety. You wrote an entire paragraph about the anthropic principle which is so ridiculous that I honestly can't tell if you're being serious or trolling. If you are being serious, then I'll happily explain to you why I find this paragraph so puzzling. Atheists have been around since long before the multiverse theory. It is not necessary, and it is not a matter of "faith." I'm still not convinced of it, personally, but I do find the research interesting, and I think it's more likely than the single-universe view which is dominant today. I need more info. You asked a lot of questions about the singularity, but you haven't read the book that I told you I directly got most of my answers from. I'm telling you again, if you read and understand that book, then it will change your current view of the fabric of space time. By the way, singularities are only a small part of this book, so please don't bash the book and pass ignorance-fueled judgments on it. Multiverse theory is an even smaller part. Your comment, "You seem to have great faith in the multiverse and even read a book about it…" is false. I've written nothing about having strong support for or "great faith" in multiverse theory. Please don't put words into my mouth. If you really believe the things that you wrote above, then you clearly don't understand multiverse theory, Occam's razor, atheism, the anthropic principle, or many of the things that you mentioned. You definitely don't understand what atheists believe, and it would really be helpful if you would stop making sweeping statements about what they believe. If you want to know what I believe, then you can ask ME. I can speak about my own views, the atheists that I've learned from, the works I've read, and my atheist friends. But most of my atheist friends aren't quite as scientifically literate as I am. Finally, if you choose to reply, would you please do two simple, quick things: 1) Read my actual comments before replying to them. 2) Proofread your response for inaccurate claims about what I believe and what I say. I really don't enjoy being misquoted and having words/thoughts attributed to me that I did not say or think. If this is too much, then we can end our discussion here. I promise I will not be offended if I don't here back lol. Thanks!
aarongrooves you stated, "Absolute certainty is something that I lost long ago." so are you absolutely certain that you don't hold to absolutes? Please give me two examples of you being absolutely against being absolutely certain.
@@davidczoramhluna8744 , it may be that our universe is a quantum inevitability. It may be the case that our universe not coming into being is the impossible thing.
How many times have things gone from nonexistence into existence in Tureks experience? With that knowledge, how can you possibly affirmatively attribute characteristics to things that go from nonexistence to existence. How arrogrant must you be to make such a conclusion?
@joashsmusic except nothing had to turn into something at least once, or else there would continue to be nothing. The point I'm making is that nobody has any experience with this type of phenomenoa. Nobody understands this type of phenomenoa (and anyone who says they do is LYING to you). So how the hell can Turek positively attribute characteristics to such a phenomenoa. It is the height of arrogance to suggest you have an understanding to the exclusion of other ideas and which runs contrary to the experts in a particular subject, of something which by your own definition you CANNOT understand...yet.
@@stupidrules1000 that's not true. you say that there IS nothing outside of the universe or at least nothing created the universe and that is impossible, but if there is something it had to be created by something that is NOT created while still BEING. and that is the very concept of God, a creator that is not created and therefore is not worldly like everything inside the universe that follows that concept of requiring creation
@@Smoomty I've made no assertions. I've responded to the assertions made by Turek and, seemingly, you. You said "nothing will always produce nothing." I responded to that assertion, by saying that it had to happen at least once. Meaning that, even in your construct of, what I will call "god" as to not get pendantic, he had to take nothing and turn it into something. That process exists completely outside of the scope of our ability to observe, test, and frankly, understand....if it happened. I'm saying that affirmatively and confidently attributing characteristics to a thing which, by definition, you CANNOT understand, is the height of arrogance and a flawed epistemology.
@@Smoomty moreover, the concept of an u created being which created the universe is just assertion. It's not a statement based in observable reality, nor is it based in logical necessity (despite the claims of many theists). The universe could be eternal. There is exactly the same amount of evidence that the universe is eternal as there is that a space less timeless formless being created everything. Actually, there is more evidence that the universe is eternal because we can actually observe the universe, we cannot observe and measure this magic creature. To suggest that you have an understanding sufficient to draw final conclusions on this is a lie. Turek needs to stop telling it.
Of course he did. He purposely misrepresents atheism and science and scientists all the time. He’s been doing this long enough he’s either too lazy to do research or he has and is lying. Or both.
Does Mr.Hawkins think the machine that helps him live and communicate is real or just thought? If nothing is reality to him why doesn't he just turn that machine (which someone designed) off. where does he say gravity comes from? where does the first thought come from? since there is no reality why would there be multiple universes? let's pray for Mr. Hawkins be visited by the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus to him. be loved
Someone created something out of the elements already present which are eternal. - Joseph Smith jr. I think this one makes even more sense, since Frank says nothing comes from nothing.
If god is that which is eternal, then this becomes semantical (don't mean that dismissively). Those eternal elements are, by definition, part of god. So I am not sure this idea is even in disagreement (Made in our image etc)
@Ben Shapiro Who created the elements? Well, the answer is in the quote. They were not created. They were there. You ask me how, I say I don`t know :) The fact is that we don`t have all the answers. Why would the elements be there? Maybe the purpose of elements is to give purpose. To create and give life.
@Ben Shapiro The point is that matter can neither be created or destroyed just refined, rearranged, or moved, meaning that creation happens when God commands matter to be arranged int such a way that gives desired results.
tell me mr "you can't get life from non-life" EVERYTHING in the universe is made from three things, electrons, protons and neutrons, none of them are alive. how can you be alive?
Based solely on his tone and mannerisms, you would assume he is talking to a room of children. Then you listen to what he's actually saying and assume the children must have brain damage.
@@chriscravens8318 I have posted serious refutations on nearly every one of his videos. I either get silence or people telling me that Jesus loves me. So I tried something different.
You are exactly right: everything that has a beginning must have a cause. Because the universe has a beginning, it must have a cause. What does this imply for God? It means the creator has no beginning, and therefore always was, and therefore never "appeared." Thus it is written: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Revelation 1:8) God needs no creator because he was never created. You, evidently, were. Therefore you have a creator. Thus it is written, So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. (Genesis 1:27)
@ Holly Wood, you're just going to get the standard response from the lame-brained, feeble-minded brainwashed christian morons. They will tell you that you can't say this and can't say that, whilst making sure they don't have any such limitations on what they say. It's a fascist-style power-trip for the dumbass theists. They will claim everything must have a creator, whilst clutching firmly to the convenient delusion that they worship something that is specially and specifically designed by them to be exception to all the rules they say you must obey. It's just a cop-out.
Mademoiselle Janeite I’m the same way..I actually know when I’m dreaming..I will go from one place to another with know way of how I got there except for changing scenery almost..and the only way to get out of it is to wake up..hard to explain
I've survived at least 5 overdoses from heroin and now have been clean for a lil over a year! As well as other potentially serious accidents! If those aren't Miracles then i don't know what is. God has freed me from depression, anxiety and so many other dark things. Praise God 4 all eternity!!
May god bless you keep it up
God bless!
You just sound like you overcame a great hurdle by working on yourself and delusion yourself that you were saved by a third party entity. Wherein it's simply just you overcommng your struggles and self harm. But anyhow great work on your recovery
You weren’t there, you don’t know what he went through. Sometimes, people may be too weak to overcome their struggles and ultimately, the Bible is their source of peace, joy, happiness and fulfillment, and it comes from God, so therefore God does help people and it’s through His word which He lovingly provided us with.
@@Nameless-pt6oj ok
I was in witchcraft/new age for 22 years, suffered from addiction, and God saved me from it all. Praise the Lord!!
Can you prove any of those 3 claims?
U r fool.
so you swapped one collection of superstitious nonsense for another?
Everything is none sense according to atheists
@@sirg_k Obviously you do not know what the word atheist means.
"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: 'He catches the wise in their craftiness”
- 1 Corinthians 3:19
When you really think about it, the words of statements like that don't really mean anything at all.
@@Knaeben As I believe brother the Word of God are like a sound of a whistling wind that passes through the ears thus leaving no significance at all to the listeners who have a heart of stone because of the arrogance of his mouth.
Jack Take need not to boil a baby goat in its own mother’s milk. This is your commandment. The wisdom of the lord has spoken.
Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you commit attrocities. Such is the power and evil of religion.
A disturbed person is a Christian and wants to shoot up a school. The person prays and prays and prays for god to help him, but his anger is too great. He gets a gun an starts shooting innocent people, killing dozens, until He is shot by the police. As he is dying, the shooter says, "I'm sorry God...I tried but I wasn't strong enough. You have always been my saviour please forgive me for my sins...I repent..." and then dies.
And your god welcomes him into heaven.
During the same rampage, an atheist teacher repeatedly goes into the hallway to save the lives of students. After saving a dozen children, he is shot by the gunman and he falls inside his classroom and students lock the door. A student says they will pray for him. His response is, "Why? There is no god...." and he dies.
And god sends him to hell to be tortured for eternity in the flames.
And you have no problem with this. Absurdities and atrocities.
@@tonymitchell8563
Sums up the ridiculous truth behind the christian position rather nicely
He's actually doing more than other preachers.... imagine the number of people he have influenced to come to Christianity.....God bless him
Turek's arguments work on the already converted. In order to agree that a theistic, personal god was the creator, you have to believe it to begin with. All Turek can offer is a deist and only if the premise of nothing to start is true - which isn't a safe assumption. You can't make the leap to a personal loving god from there.
yes he is doing more than other preachers...he's doing a ton of damage and harm. He consistently misrepresents scientists, atheism and what science shows us. Frank wouldn't pull this stuff on someone that has a degree in science. He needs so stop lying.
And that's just it. He doesn't want you to believe in an 'intelligent creator' or 'intelligent design', he wants you to believe in his christian god. Why doesn't he just skip trying to prove the universe was created by an 'intelligent being' and go straight to proving his christian god was responsible?
@@colossusforbin5484 he has plenty of other videos where he explains evidence for the New Testament and why the Resurrection really happened, but it’s much easier to be intellectually lazy and watch just one video and call it worthless.
@@OddssssWhere did I call it worthless? I'm just suggesting he skips past trying to prove there's a creator and go right to proving it was HIS creator that was responsible.
I’d rather go through believing and living a life for GOD and find out there isn’t one. Than to live my life not believing and found out there is a GOD.
I always thought that a wise and benevolent god appreciated good people regardless of their beliefs or disbelief.
I know I would
because I am a good person.
Excellent comment! So very well put.
The one issue I have with this statement is that it has the element of doubt regarding God's existence. Christians aren't basing their life on a hunch that God exists. If we aren't 100% convinced, how will we have enough faith to endure any trial that we might have to endure?
Truth Be Bold totally agree
James Richard Wiley Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-
This pretty much sums up how you get to heaven. It’s not because of good works.
I'm kind of new to Christianity and I had no idea that there was so much objective reality to back up the case for God and so many "scientists" who just flat out deny reality.
This may come as a shock to lifetime believers, but the secular world is quite convinced that the opposite is true.
Hi and welcome. There are a number of scientists who are also Christians. My favorite is Dr. Hugh Ross, the astrophysicist. He lectures and has written some very interesting books. I think the first one he wrote was Reasons To Believe. If you liked this talk, you will probably like Dr. Ross as much as I do. Blessings.
Dr Jason Lisle (?)(astrophysicists)is great too. He’s got a lot of good you tube videos.
Good books are the case fore Christ by Lee Strobel and Josh McDowells books
Oh and if you haven’t run across Pastor Jack Hibbs he’s awesome and Bible based. He an abortion survivor. Mom tried to abort him and he survived to lead thousands to Christ.
I don't see it. Neither does science. Note that science isn't absolute (that's why Frank hates it. He needs that anchor in his life), it's about probabilities. Randy had a prize of $1M for anyone who could prove the supernatural. The prize was never claimed. So much for "objective reality".
@@HansBezemer he doesn't hate science. he's just pointing out what the most logical conclusion is. when have you ever seen life come from non-life? How do we get order out of chaos? the logical conclusion is that there is a creator because it's scientifically impossible that everything we know and see came from nothing. the universe is chaotic, it can't put things in order on it's own. there has to be someone or something fine tuning the universe for it to work. it's like playing a musical instrument. an instrument can't play itself. a musician has to play the right notes in the correct order for it to work. Nobody can truly prove anything. All we have is evidence and the evidence points to a creator. not nothing.
@@ron7328 It's simple - the universe AS A WHOLE falls into chaos. That doesn't mean that it happens everywhere at the same rate at the same time. E.g. there is a remote chance that all molecules in a container end up in the same corner. That's how probability works.
And there is no fine tuning of the universe. It's a compelling philosophical question, but there is NO PROOF whatsoever that these constants even could be different. The reason for that is very simple. We've never seen a case where 1+1 doesn't equal two. We've never seen a triangle which angles do not add up to PI radians. We've never seen a consequence preceding a cause.
Hence, it's completely possible that those values cannot be different at all.
I give you another example. As someone with both a CS degree and a biology degree I can tell you DNA is not nicely laid out. There are lots of duplications, inefficiencies, non-coding DNA - errors no well thinking developer would make. I've also experimented with generating code using genetic algorithms. You find the same sort of flaws in code that is generated that way. So either God is a very lousy programmer OR those sequences were generated by a genetic algorithm.
Every theory is composed of pieces of evidence. When the evidence is compelling, a hypothesis becomes a theory with a higher of lower degree of certainty. In science, it's rare to find absolute truths. There is always a degree of uncertainty. However, some hypothesis have more credibility than others. The credibility of ID is quite low. There is absolutely nothing that clearly points to design.
As a matter of facts, recently we found that RNA molecules can replicate and are subject to algorithmic improvements, just like DNA molecules. That you haven't seen it or believe it is inconsequential. That's merely a fallacy of incredulity. I haven't seen the sun rise this morning. Yet I reasoned that it has.
Imagine how scary it would be as an Atheist and meeting God after dying.
and if god is god, all these people saying he doesn t exist...the hitchens, and the dawkins saying they provide god doesn t exist...god is not worried.]
@@littlehollow , being convinced that a god exists is an action taken by a living brain. Steven Hawking's brain is no longer living, therefore he is not a theist or an atheist.
@@littlehollow , you edited a lot more into your comment, ok.
@@littlehollow , if people are making decisions based on faulty information that is a bad thing. For instance...the bible says that gays are not to be tolerated. Ok. If there is no christian God, than this is an immoral statement because there is no such thing as sin. Many people make decisions in their lives that they think are their God wishes based on their interpretations of their favorite holy book. Again, if there is no god, all of that effort is wasted. Maybe you can be the exception and provide actual evidence that a god exists...I doubt it.
@@littlehollow , life has the meaning that we give it, it's a personal thing. There is no overall meaning to life that I've seen described. My purpose is to be a good dad, brother and son, maybe husband again but that's another story entirely. A book cannot assign meaning to your life.
Jesus said, "I thank You Father, God of heaven and earth, for hiding these things from the wise and understanding and revealing them to babes, for it seemed good in Your sight." Matthew 11:25-26.
Probably because wise and understanding people wouldn't be gullible enough to fall for the scam.
@@cnault3244 what scam ?do you mean like baseless, no hope for humanity evolution theory[the lie] dreamed up by the wise to fool the wise.
@@alexcarboni489 I mean the scam where priests, rabbis, imans, etc convince people that a god exists and they are the ones who can tell you what god wants ( and as a result have power over those people) and get those people to give them money because they have convinced those people they will be rewarded in an afterlife they have no evidence for.
@G C C M "hence why God said that Money is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL."
Nope, the Bible doesn't say that. Apparently you are not very familiar with what the Bible actually says.
"Or the person who believes in God?"
Do you think it is moral to own another human being as property? Yes or no?
@G C C M "Yet, following Jesus you never heard him say “Theoretically, I am the way the truth and the life”."
I never heard him say anything... and neither did you.
I once heard Hawking say that before the big bang time didn't exist therefore God couldn't have existed. He didn't understand that God transcends time and space. But hey he knows the truth now...
Hopefully at the last moment he believed
@@selinajayatilake1581 It's too late.
Yes he does
You believe he knows the truth. That doesn’t prove if it’s true or not.
@@guyjosephs5654 Jesus:" I AM the way,the truth and the life "
John 20:29
"...blessed are those who didn't see, but believed."
cesar leon and if you didn’t see, what other reason could debunk something that is truly logical? What else is it to believe? Something that is illogical to say that there is no God?. Ridiculous,
“Atheism is so senseless. When I look at the solar system, I see the earth at the right distance from the sun to receive the proper amounts of heat and light. This did not happen by chance.” - Issac Newton.
“Don’t think” that’s ironic. Lol
cesar leon if your saying it happen by chance, it’s pure ignorance, when do you see a monkey popping out of existence in your living room? Yes exactly look at other planets, most of them don’t support life and none of them have life. It could be nonsense but it isn’t, but it is even worse to believe that nothing created something and that everything is a coincidence. And Jesus actually showed himself, if randomness happens why isn’t there a monkey popping out into existence out of nothing? And there is still something in that living room making it more likely to happen there, because there is still something. Not literally nothing.
Kuffar Legion science isn’t hard to understand, atheist are the ones who doesn’t understand science. Science is for God. All science is discovering Gods work. And we should know that God let the land be curse because the fall of man but that doesn’t take away the fact that every design is made perfectly for that design. We are all still alive aren’t we? The gods are not gods because there is only one God. But that one God is all powerful and all good.
John 3:16 King James Version
“16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
"Scientific investigations, pushed on and on, will reveal new ways in which God works, and bring us deeper revelations of the wholly unknown." Maria Mitchell.
And also Nobel prizes winners in chemistry 72.5% are Christians, 65.3% in physics, 62% medicine. Are Christians, and that was because they knew it was done by God.
@@tan1591 , in all of science, no measurement or action has ever been explained by adding a variable for a god.
Turns out your god has as much impact on the world as my pet unicorn does.
worldgonemad that is the most ridiculous argument ever, looks like you were just going for an insult. It’s like adding a human to a math equation. What an idiotic thing to say. And God had the biggest impact this universe. He’s the cause. He literally came down from earth. Mostly all scientists were Christians in the scientific revolution. And your saying God did nothing? You ignore the historical evidence, you ignore the scientist, you ignore logical reasoning. You’re in denial. Like even after all that, you chose ignorance. It’s like rejecting the color of grass.
I used to be an atheist but the more I studied cosmology the more it pointed me in the direction of an intelligent agent. In a universe as unfathomable as this and a reality we can but wonder over, Jesus became absolutely plausible in my mind. Studied the bible and a lot of accompanying research and I absolutely believe in Jesus Christ, and I'm shocked. I've never been happier ❤✝️❤
I used to doubt the gospel but I realized the only thing that stops me from believing is my doubt itself. I'm glad we aren't subjectively enough to deny Dr. Turek's evidence
For you that works, but not for everyone. The more I study the more I see natural explanations for things. Someone wants to believe that okay, but it isn’t the only option to explain.
@@cypr7120 I’m sorry but what evidence are you talking about from Turek?? I didn’t see any good evidence at all.
@@guyjosephs5654 absolutely agree my friend 👍🏻
do please share what evidence points to an intelligent agent?
Hawking was a miracle himself by living years with a deadly disease and he still denies God’s existence. I hope he received Jesus before passing!
Same, so smart yet he didn't accept Christ. Hope he had a death bed confession.
A death bed conversion will not get you in Heaven, but it will get you an appointment for the Judgement.
@@jeziscricket4448 yeah
@@jeziscricket4448 so sad, such a brilliant mind, yet he wouldn't accept Jesus Christ
@@mr.mayonnaise2095 Ecclesiastes 5:16 17
...this is also a grievous evil; just as he came, so shall he go; and what gain has he, that he toiled for the wind, and spent all his days in darkness and grief, in much vexation and sickness and resentment... those were his choices.
When we start asking questions about the very nature of God Himself, that leaves the physical realm and crosses over into the supernatural. The supernatural realm is not bound by the laws of physics or science. So God exists, just because He's God and that's just the way it is. Doesn't have to make sense to us. The rules of the physical realm no longer apply...
Prove the supernatural and win a Nobel Prize. But then again...you can't.
@@tomcooper6108 Trying to prove the supernatural using scientific methods is like trying to prove that the creator of a video game exists using only logic/rules in the game world. It doesn't make sense and is futile. However, by observing the game world, you can reasonably conclude that there is a creator.
@@scrub8363 you can't reasonable conclude the characteristics of that creator. This is Turek and many theists error. They may point to a deistic creator but you can't make a leap to an all knowing all powerful all loving god.
@@johnelliott5859 I agree that it is much more difficult to come to any conclusion about the characteristics of the creator, but having said that, are you implying that it is reasonable to believe that there is a creator?
If so, then the main question we must discuss is "why believe the Bible vs sacred texts of other religions", at which point the person seeking the answer is no longer an atheist but rather a theist in search of the true creator/God. Is that where you stand at the moment?
@@scrub8363 it may be reasonable to believe there is a creator if you assume a universe from nothing. I don't believe this is a safe assumption and so am not convinced that a creator is required. I see that reasoning as a god of the gaps.
If one did believe in a creator they would not have to be a theist, but rather a deist. There is no requirement for a personal loving creator if you agree with the Kalam argument. (I think this is a major fault in Turek and WLC's reasoning of a benevolent personal god)
As far as sacred texts go, I don't see any of them that aren't refuted by science. The gap for a god to fit keeps closing.
“Jesus uttered some of the most profound sayings ever recorded. And everyone - even some of his enemies - claimed that Jesus was a man of integrity who taught the truth (Mark 12:14).”
And who wrote Mark?
WTF are you talking about? Here is what Mark 12:14 says:
They came and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you tell the truth and are not concerned with what people think about you, since you pay no attention to a person’s status but really teach what God’s way is. Does Torah say that taxes are to be paid to the Roman Emperor, or not?”
Also, going by what the Bible says, Jesus also said some of the stupidest things ever recorded.
@@cnault3244 like what?
@@paulbogle8161 Like:
- take no thought for tomorrow, god will take care of you (Matthew 6:25-34, Luke 12:22-31 )
if people actually believed those words people wouldn't have insurance, retirement savings, savings for their children's education, smoke alarms, fir extinguishers, etc etc
- Give to everyone who asks. Lend to everyone who wants to borrow. (Matthew 5:42, Luke 6:30, 35 )
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@@cnault3244 I see your point. to those without faith there is no logic in that statement. But the value of a truth is not determined by how many people do or do not accept it. It either is true or is not true
"Nothing comes from nothing.
Nothing ever could"
-- Julie Andrews ("Something Good" / Sound of Music)
So now you are stating a 50 year old movie is fact?
@@novaenby7823 Julie Andrews said it, I believe it, nuff said!
Prove it! Show me a source of “nothing” to do this experiment
Can you make 1 using n number of 0s?
But the big bang was not from nothing.
The perfect answer to the "multiple universe" theory....
"You may be right. There may be multiple universes... I don't know how many God may have created. The Bible only tells us about THIS one..."
The multi universe hypothesis is just speculation. Is there any evidence to support the bible?
@@thebigone3437 Yes, there is. If you want the tip of the iceberg on evidence, you can first start off with a movie called The Case for Christ. It's a true story based off a book written by Lee Strobel. It's a story of an atheist doing research to disprove Christ. Also there's a documentary called A Case for Christ, it examines Jesus's burial cloth. Start with the movie though. I hope this helps. God bless.
@@grizzley409 Thank you. I'll look at Lee Strobel first. If the contents in documentaries are true, there shouldn't be any religious bias, but present the evidence as they are.
There isn't any evidence of multiple universes so the bible's lack of information regarding the universes structure isn't surprising. The bible doesn't even know that other planets exist, the moon is a place you can go, the sun is a million times bigger than the Earth, and that the atmosphere thins to become outer space that makes up almost the entire universe. Yeah, the bible doesn't tell us about other universes. It literally only talks about our planet as if it is the entire universe because that's what bronze age mythology tells them.
The bible is so incorrect about the nature of reality that you shouldn't looking for them to explain any universe, including ours.
God is truly working through you
"worming"
frank is as dishonest as the day is long here. every minute of this video is a lie about hawking.
How so?
@@thebigone3437 the way he talks about something from nothing and tries to say that thats the atheistic view. some might think that but most dont. So he is either dishonest or he dosnt know what he is talking about
@@trepinne6840 I think it's the latter, a lot of Christian videos that talk about atheists build up a straw man of what an atheist is, and provide counter arguments that go nowhere in practice.
@@thebigone3437 i would agree. I think in general thats the biggest and most occuring issue. And it should be the first and easiest point: present the actuall position and not, as you say, a strawman.
This teaching is timeless..learned alot
What do you mean?
@@orion9590 what he means is that you can access this information in 2020.
I am currently watching this in 2020.
The only problem with this vid is that he said, the creator of the universe is a he. No, it was a she. It was a female entity that waa responsible for creating the universe. The he god which is man is responsible for creating the universe on earth. Man is the god of the bible and the ruler of this world or universe but not the creator of the universe (space, planets, earth, stars etc). Don't get it confused or twisted. They are separate entities. Nonetheless, the speaker was right about many things he said esp about Steven Hawkins lmsolllllllll
@@skyjack8541 , how did you come to be convinced of your claims? What evidence led you to believe the universe has a concious creators?And how did you determine the sex of these creators?
"New Atheism" hate philosophy.
"New Atheism" hates old and debunked phillsophy.
@@orion9590 you've just proved my statement.
@@DenverJohn Philosophy is the enemy of Atheism. That's why Richard Dawkins always refuse to debate Philosophers
@@ilovestargazing4991 When philosophers can offer up evidence for their claims I don't doubt Dawkins will debate them.
@@ilovestargazing4991 I think the main issue is that Philosophers can sometimes act like they know just as much as the scientists who have studied a particular subject. That is why there is friction.
Key Quote:
"Science doesn't say anything ; Scientists do..."
And then they frequently mix unbelieving philosophy with some Science thus deceiving the unwary.
"Take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.."
science is just the most consistently reliable method humanity has developed for finding out why/how the universe is.
claims about gods or any other supernatural things are by definition out of the scope of science.
unless you claim those gods/demons/djinn/ori/ pixies/ magic universe-creating sandwiches/etc somehow affect the real world. in that case your claim can be tested if you make it specific enough
@@sabin97
Sure, much agreed.
The Scientific methods limitation is that it cannot measure or assess non-physical things.
So it's useless to verify or falsify Metaphysics: those realities that are Spiritual & Mental:
How much does Love weigh ?
Hate ?
Truth ?
History ?
These things lack all physical reality, yet they control or effect all Physical reality.
This is why using so called "Scientific" objections to God's existence are fallacious.
When a prominent (Atheist) Scientist stands up & declares
"God MUST not exist because we can't locate or measure Him", watch out.
That man has just stepped outside the realm of Science into Philosophy, but either hasn't recognized it or isn't being honest about his Transition.
He's now operating as a Materialist but making absolute claims about a Metaphysical reality Science can't speak to.
At best he's confused - at worst he's an covert Evangelist for Athestic Materialism, yet unaware of both his predilections against God's Ordained Spiritual reality OR the limits of Scientific observation.
The Truth is we all know God us our CREATOR, Father & Redeemer from within ourselves - God has whispered this in our Conscience, shown it in Nature & Written it in His WORD.
As Romans 1 describes in exquisite detail - anyone who denies GOD are without excuse....
@@hellosunshine1090 , nice series of strawmen. Pretty impressive really.
@@worldgonemad5866 explain
@@peachywe4310 , how much love weighs has nothing to do with whether or not a god exists. Says absolutely nothing about the character of any god being.
I would like to see him debate Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, or Matt Dilahunty.
He debated the hitch. It’s hilarious
Richard Dawkins... the guy said he would believe in God if God were to come down from heaven and announce with a booming voice, “I am God.” Then seconds later he backtracked and said, even so, how do I know it’s not someone doing something with special effects?
If they don’t believe, they don’t believe. Won’t miss them.
Daniel Braddock, I wouldn’t say he “debated” Hitchens as much as he shared a stage with Hitch, who summarily proceeded to hand Turek his own ass in front of a live audience.
kegsofvomitspit - well sure....if you're an atheist you'd think that. If God would just come down to earth and show Himself I'd believe......wait, He did !
Tim Green - well sure......if you’re a Christian you would think that. If only Gawd would manifest himself into a human so he can sacrifice himself to himself to appease himself.
Oh wait...........you think he did........
lol
So grateful for you Frank Turek!
Stephen Hawking isnt an athiest anymore
That's for sure! Good point.
Oh no hahha
False. No one is. Romans 1
Not making a choice, is a choice in itself. You can chose not leave the burning house, you have just chosen to die. Same thing is true for atheism.
@ദേശീയവാദി we are still talking about him hence he still exist on earth in some form.😒
Mr. Turek has been a blessing to me and has helped me strengthen my faith in Christ, amen! God bless you and thank you personally sir
Fred Bloggs How do you know, from one singular comment, whether or not I look at other sources besides Christian ones?
Fred Bloggs It seems you are troubled friend. Hope all is well.
why were you losing your faith? seems like you should've kept going. mr turke is an out and out liar, he is saying hawking said things hawking NEVER DID.
We need more Pastors like Mr. frank. Well done sir
Colossians 2:8
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
bruh frank funny ash, “How do you know but we Kant” 😭😭
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He is no Fool who gives up what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose. - Jim Elliot
I feel like if I had spent a half day talking with this guy he could destroy every shred of doubt that I have ever had about Jesus and God.
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By his logic we can say who created god ?? Circular reasoning
there may well be a god, but has it occured to you that all you have to go on is god's word? god telling you he is great and you can come to heaven sounds like a scam to me, especially as "oh you get this onetime offer after you are dead" when you can't change your mind.
i have this theory that god prefers atheists, that religion is designed to sort out people who just suck up, who want to get into heaven regardless of the cost, and will do anyyhting to stay out of hell, is that sincere? cos only an atheist can act sincerely - we have no fear of hell, no expectation of heaven, we do things becuse we think they are RIGHT, regardless of the consequences.
religion was invneted so god can pick out all the people that just suck up to him, he really wants people with the GUTS to defy him.
@@HarryNicNicholas I respect your view. I can only and will only speak for myself. I know God exists because I've met Him. Once I believed in Him a relationship began to develop between Him and I. Everytime a shred of doubt enters my mind, He shows up and shows me in the most powerful ways who He is, that He loves me and that I belong to Him. I need no further convincing. In talking to you, I have no ulterior motive to try and convince you.
I am intrinsically a selfish and self centered person. So if not to convince myself and if not to gain from you... Why would I bother replying to you? you may think that I just have a need to be "right". I assure you, if that were the case, I would take pleasure in the thought that one day you would know what I know, albeit, to late. That is not the case! I stopped what I was doing to answer this at length because the thought of you spending eternity outside of His presence makes me ill.
It breaks my heart. Yes I told you I was intrinsically selfish. He changed that about me in a drastic way. You are not a bad person but you were born into a world where sin and death exist. Every single one of us is guilty. You were created for eternal life. You just need to choose whether or not you want to spend it in the presence of the Father who CANNOT have sin in his presence. He gave you a way out and all you have to do is accept His free gift and turn from your sin. You have free will. You have his instruction manual. If you choose wisely and do so with a contrite heart you will be given access to the Spirit of God to help you gain understanding. You will enter into the Body of Christ (which is all of us). and you will have everlasting life with The Father. I beg you, friend, to choose Life.
"The nature of the universe is to come out of nothing. Nothing has interesting properties." The physicists must been smoking weed before they said that.
Magic man did it, magic man always been there.....the religious nutjob must've been smoking crack when he said that.
So which physicist say that? I am curious to hear it.
@@nakkadu No one who believes in God says that God does magic. That's what people like you claim.
@@Keesha_Hardy miracles then....same thing.
@@nakkadu No. Magic is an illusion or trick, miracles are not.
We never claim that it's magic when a person who has been in a coma for ten years comes out of it suddenly and makes a full recovery.
It's always called a miracle.
I think Larry Norman said it best. The reason we don't have any clear thinkers anywhere in the world anymore, is that, "We shot all our dreamers and there's no-one left to lead us."
well, sean carroll is no stephen hawking, but he would be a good place to start.
frank turek should be in a dumpster.
It could just be that most people don't grow their hair out long to make room for their brain like Larry did. 😉
@@gregorymoore2877 I was listening to that song today actually. Just popped up on my random selection in the car. Also 'Christmas Time' which was kinda apt. Still resonates. 🙂
Frank Turek, You are so inspiring and well-spoken and a very incredible teacher and person.
The way You speak, tell things & respect everybody is unbelievable.
Sorry but completely disagree. He misrepresents science, atheism as topics.
Math?
0 + 0 = 0
Indeed
NenoBrown24 according to Stephen Hawkins 0+0 = trillions trillions into infinity
Exactly!!! nothing can't create something.
@VIII Maus Zero sum theory only works if gravity is in fact negative energy.
@@choosen1130 "nothing can't create something"
And something that does not exist cannot create something.
With no evidence being presented for a god existing, there is no reason to believe a god created anything.
*Ecclesiastes 3 verse 11 : He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end.*
God give men the understanding of eternity. But human cannot find out what God does from beginning to the end. He did that so human learns to be humble.
God is at least as valid as any other answer, when they say we don't know what created everything out of nothing. Yet...they refuse to even consider it really- because they love their sin and pretending they will not be judged by God on the Day of the Lord!
no god is not as valid. you might as well say pixies are as valid, or elves are as valid. how on earth do you get through life choosing fantasy over reality? if you making decisions based on stuff you can't even experience you must have a real rollercoaster of a life.
@@HarryNicNicholas but you can and experience the true Christian God, it’s thru the Holy Spirit. Learn more about Jesus and you’ll feel it 🙏🏾
That isn't how scientists explain the big bang so your explanation isn't equally valid. At all. You're looking at a spot where they say there is no evidence and you're saying that all explanations are equally valid as a way to insert magic where there isn't any.
@@Ira1Scream That's so true brother.
All lot of believers praise god for helping them/miracles but frank has said that god does not intervene with us so as not to Tamper with free will.
Example: why does god not destroy child molesters.
God does not want to mess with the free will of the molester, but will stay idle and watch a believer pray/beg him for help.
This confuses me. Please clarify if you can.
God Bless You all. All Glory Honor Praise Worship and Thanksgiving to God. Jesus is King. Thank You God for absolutely everything. Thank You Jesus for absolutely everything. Thank You Holy Spirit for absolutely everything
ITS OFFICIAL - ATHEISM IS A FAITH BASED RELIGION !
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION according to a 2005 Wisconsin Federal Court ruling on the matter of Kaufman v. McCaughtry, as well as the Torcaso v. Watkins case that was affirmed by the 1961 U.S. Supreme Court--the highest court in the land--where court rulings become national law.
The Supreme Court has said , "A RELIGION NEED NOT BE BASED ON THE BELIEF IN A SUPREME BEING." The court described “SECULAR HUMANISM AS A RELIGION.".
Meanwhile, a London based ATHEIST church (yes, you heard me right, ATHEIST CHURCH ), known as the Sunday Assembly, has announced it will open Sunday atheist missionary churches in 22 cities across Britain, United States and Australia.
The London based Sunday service meets with its followers on a Sunday morning (just like a real church), which included a sermon (that's propaganda to you and me), singing and free tea and coffee at the end so all the atheists can discuss their faith amongst fellow believers.
Well, now you know - atheism has its own church - its own religious creed (evolution), its own Pope (Darwin) and now its been officially recognized by the Supreme Court of the United States as a religion proving that it IS possible not to believe in God and still be recognized by the highest court in the land that Atheism is a FAITH BASED RELIGION !
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Paul Barthmaier you sir deserve a like hahhaha
Tax exception here we come!!!!
Herbal Life 420 if you say so.
Jenny klarke According to Wikipedia, a RELIGION is.... A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.[note 1] Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and/or to explain the origin of life or the Universe
Yep, Atheism is most definitely a religion.
These are very keen and cogent arguments; well done!
It seems to me Stephen Hawking miraculously surviving such a horrid disease and in his anger about his suffering spend his life rejecting God, reaching and convincing millions, is the perfect setup for the possibility of something BIG. His story is not over yet, so I will pray for him and others like him.
I jumped off a storey building broke 3 bones in both feet and two bones in my right wrist. The one treating me said it’s take 1 and a half year to be a 100% ok. This was before I got born again btw. In about 2 to 3 months I was walking and those who saw me come in and had been there longer than me were surprised. If that ain’t a miracle, I don’t know what is
It’s called healing and medicine.
@@therick363 cool. What is it called when it destroys the said time of healing and exceeds everyone’s expectations. Especially when u don’t take a balanced diet?
@@helina2557 Bones can take years to heal 100%. You were not 100% in a few months. Nothing was destroyed.
That is the irony, he preaches that there are no miracles yet he is a living miracle
BLADEMACAPHEE I was thinking the same when he said it in the video
@@user-uk9ss8gi5n when someone believes that much in their own intelligence as a result of their accomplishments in their professional lives, sometimes they become blinded by the most useful simple truths
And that's speaking to myself as well...
Why is he a miracle?
@@worldgonemad5866 it was an easy conclusion to draw is you LISTENED to what was said about Hawkins condition in this video
Thank you Father God Yahweh ✝️ 🛐
And Pastor Frank Turek.
1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
This is the 21st century dumbass, stop talking that way. And actually, I should say that it's the 28th century since the founding of Rome, since I wouldn't want to use your silly calendar that counts time from the birth of some random hobo Jew. Also, Yahweh was just some random god of storms that became the national god of Israel, but was worshiped alongside many other gods in the Hebrew pantheon, and Yahweh only became the only god of the Hebrews when the Jews removed all of the other gods from their pantheon, due to the rise of Jewish nationalism and the Jews wanting to destroy their similarities with the Babylonians, which was in turn due to the Babylonian Captivity. So the only reason that the Abrahamic religions, which are the most popular religions in the world, are monotheistic and not polytheistic, is the arbitrary actions of King Nebuchadnezzar II. So you're living an arbitrary lie.
Nothing from nothing leaves nothing, you gotta have something.
Exactly. A universe coming from nothing is less likely to happen than staring at an empty bag of jelly beans and waiting for it to fill up. At least theres some random odds however astronomical that the jelly beans appear since there is something for them to appear from. Pretend your in a nothing waiting for the universe to appear, what are the odds it happens? Who knows, odds dont exist, no material concepts exist, neither does chance, opportunity, intention, randomness, or even remote possibility much less impossibility. Concepts dont exist in nothing or the possibility of any of the concepts I listed above. In a nothing space, nothing is possible, not even miracles......unless God exists.
That hasn't been demonstrated
@@jimmyneutron6047 because it's impossible. simply try to wait for an apple to form in front of your table.
Ok y’all can atleast give respect. Hawkings was a brilliant scientist that dared to search for answers besides presuming a conclusion. If he was alive in a debate, he would of gave a lot of theologians a hell of a ride in debates.
I really liked hawkings before i found jesus.
Just listening to him restores my belief in god :) .
Praying for u!
That’s fine as long as you’re not listening to him when it comes to science, that and what he says about atheists. That’s all ridiculous.
Please just read your bible
@@guyjosephs5654 how familiar are you with what you're arguing against, I bet you don't read anything or watch anything from the perspective of a creationistcfor example
@@quantumfrost9467 I actually do my best to keep an open mind when listening to anyone. I have listened to what Frank has said about many aspects of science, and atheism and scientists. He either doesn’t do his research and talks about it, or he does and is purposely misrepresenting what he’s learned.
Addicted to cross examined 😁
Me too
Me too ✊
You are not alone
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Me 3 😅
self-control is one of the fruits of the Spirit, is it not?
not with frank, he opens his mouth, out come lies.
A sidenote: One can know one is dreaming without waking up. If you close your nose and try to breathe through it, you cannot when you are awake. If you're dreaming though, your respiratory system is at function while your body is in a paralysis, so in your dream you will be able to breathe through your nose while closing your nose. Off course, initially you would have to know that this is not possible while awake in order to use it as a way to distinguish the state of dreaming and being awake. Great lecture!
@Jack Of All Trades I don't quite understand, what is your point?
Michael, why do you insist that hell is a torture chamber? It's rather a classic and inaccurate view. Hell is just separate from God, much like sin is the absence of God. If you or anyone else, God forbid, ends up in isolated hell, it will be because you chose to separate yourself, not because you're imperfect. Remember, Jesus is the reconciliation, median, and propitiation for your imperfections in comparison to God's perfect standards. All you really need to do is accept that. Simple as that.
"Hell is just separate from God, much like sin is the absence of God." - So, your god notion does not include omnipresence?
"God's perfect standards" - What perfect standard are you claiming? Passages such as Deuteronomy 20:10-14: Conquest, Mass Murder, Slavery, & Rape seem to make such statements absurd...
Buddy, Omnipresence just says you have the power to be present, which entails the power to become absent. God would not be present in hell because he is the sum of all good.
Alfredo Castro 1) So, your notion of omnipresence as claimed in your god notion is a power that can be activated and deactivated as opposed to a supposed state of being?
2) You don't see a contradiction between the idea of all good and the idea of supposed creator of hell? Which is better to you eternal torture or non-existence?
I am left to wonder amount what people call good given the horrors that some consider to be good at least from my notions.
***** lol, I never mentioned God didn't create hell. Listen buddy, your attempts to disprove or discredit God by sheerly anthropomorphizing Him are clearly outdated and it is a very poor excuse not to believe. Who said He wants to do anything about it? Are you implying there should be no justice, and people should do whatever seems fit to them by their own disgraceful standards? You make your own choice to enter a realm of complete isolation from the presence of God. It's not the professor's fault that the student failed his class, but it is the student's lack of self-discipline, integrity, and motivation. Don't blame the professor, you make your own choices. Take some responsibility for once.
Alfredo Castro "You make your own choice to enter a realm of complete isolation from the presence of God." - No evidence for the claim of a God existing, which makes claims such as yours worthless.
You are of course free to make up all sorts of notions, but in the absence of evidence (demonstrable cause/effect linkage) for existence, your claims are on par with claiming any number of fictions as truth.
There is no discrediting a concept which has NEVER been shown to be, since, given the absence of evidence all claims of god (deity) are arguments from ignorance.
As a Christian i would point out that Hawking says It Appears to be fine tuned, meaning he believes it’s only fine tuned in appearance not that it actually is. However the mathematical odds of the seemingly fine tuned universe happening out of Randomness and not an Advanced Mind similar to that of Man’s, are so astronomically enormous that it would’ve took a Miracle for them to happen. which would then prove the existence of Miracles which are defined as “a highly improbable or extraordinary event, development, or accomplishment that brings very welcome consequences.” Hawking then contradicts himself.
Greetings to all. This video is very informative, whether we like, believe or not this Preacher talk tons of sense something we all should pond with. God bless him and his work.
Informative in a misrepresenting way yes indeed.
@username 60fps beg your pardon?
@username 60fps well when I get directed here and then watch what he’s saying about atheists and or science....yes I’m going to comment. You can say it’s “spam” but it’s not. It’s someone not being okay with what’s being said. Frank should know better. He’s been doing this long enough
@@guyjosephs5654 what did he misrepresent
@@cadenorris4009 well right away he says “no one created something out of nothing (atheistic view)”
While there may be a _few_ atheists who think that, the vast majority don’t. And it would be more accurate to say scientists not atheists. Why? Because that isn’t an atheistic thing-atheism is a response to a singular question-is there a god or gods. From there people can develop various philosophies and world views. So Frank saying it like that is misrepresenting atheism. That’s just one thing he has done in the past.
If I've learnt anything from this video, it's that only Intel technology can be trusted to speak on Stephen Hawking's behalf.
lol he was actually bill gates AI son
But...... he's literally quoting Hawking's book........
@@korilemay7877 LOL that's exactly what I was thinking, he's a hawking fan boy, let him have this one 🤷♂️
If your having a debate with an atheist instead of trying to hit them harder with what they hit you, do the debate with love that's how you truly win
so you're another one who doesn't care about your faith but just wants to win, no wonder you're on frank's page, he lied and misrepresented hawking from the first moment of this, you sound like a real nice christian too. what's christianity about again? cos it appears these days all you lot want to do is win arguments, atheist bash and dictate what people can and can't do, while being hypocrits yourself.
it's really easy to fact check hawking, everything he ever said was kept, go fact check frank, cos frank here is lying from start to finish.
For anyone wondering where the "quantum vacuum," meaning the quantum fluctuations in the vacuum, come form, they are a result of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. This is a very well-known fact in physics. He could have just looked this up.
Also, by "because there is a force like gravity, the universe can come from nothing," Professor Hawking was saying that because gravitational fields *naturally* have a negative energy, unlike negative energy fields that arise in positive-negative energy pairs in the vacuum solely because of the uncertainty principle, they can arise along with positive energy fields in the positive-negative energy pairs that arise from quantum fluctuations in the vacuum (depending on which theory of quantum gravity is true) and actually stay there, rather than being there for a limited time determined by the uncertainty principle, and this could've been what happened at the Big Bang. So what Hawking was saying made perfect sense and was perfectly coherent, but Turek took the statement out of context and acted like what Hawking said was insane, which makes me think that Turek is intentionally lying to get people to believe what he's saying, rather than just being deluded. So for anyone that believes what Turek is saying, and believes that a god must exist, then why would Turek have to intentionally lie like this to get people to believe in a god?
"Nothing" is an abstract concept. What is nothing? How can you describe nothing without describing it as something?
Draw a circle erase the lines.
@@tsapp2831 what did you draw the circle on? Nothing?
@@dja-bomb6397 google
Nothing is essentially no thing
@@toluwaniojo4469 I find it interesting that your definition included the word "is". This implies an existence of the thing you are attempting to define. Can non-being *be* ?
Really thinking about that because it is a philosophical problem. There is no reason to think there ever *was* nothing at any *time* (also something, by the way)
An oversimplified understanding of "nothing" results in an oversimplified understanding of everything. No wonder people still believe in gods in 2021.
"You can't do science unless you know philosophy."
Well i guess i as a math teacher i am focked
@@Lamster66 Nope
@@Lamster66 I think i missunderstood your other question i think we have the same point we just battleing something e just agree on. Sory my english is not perfect :p
@@Lamster66 Woo now i understood ok you right Ty for the clarification
Philosophy comes after Science XD
Dreaming itself is evidence for ourselves to know that the metaphysics is real meaning that you have a spirit or soul.
White Fang Talks and same with conscience
Frank I have a question... if the conclusions of Hawking's book are the result of material determinism, does the fact that they are the result of material determinism alone make those conclusions wrong? I don't see how you can proof that is the case. The fact that an idea be the result of material determinism does not necessarily makes it false or just an illusion. Does it? and if so, how can you prove that conclusion?
Great teaching...cemented my faith
I believe that the Flying Spaghetti Monster was the "uncaused first cause". Prove me wrong.
@@nickjones5435 Exactly man.
@@nickjones5435 absolutely, spot on
@@theprogrammer8200 Pretty much every isolated civilisation on earth has made up its own myths and legends regarding origins. It is human nature to make stuff up when we don't have all the facts and Christianity is no different.
The vague, self-fulfilling prophecies aren't evidence. The "history of humanity" isn't even true.
You are convinced of old superstition and woo woo my friend. We exist in a natural universe, not a magical one. :)
@@TheTruthKiwi If you someday are desperate enough to search for the truth, you will find Jesus. Try asking him with your mouth, if he exists. Just try it and you will have your prove.
@@theprogrammer8200 People are afraid of dying and need a magical security blanket which is why they believe in the supernatural.
The universe doesn't owe us anything my friend, mainly because it can't. As far as we really know for sure it is just matter and energy. Spirits and the supernatural claims are just assertions and assumptions made by indoctrinated, scared, gullible people that want to be immortal.
Here's a test for you. Tonight, go into a room by yourself, turn the light on and ask Jesus to flick the light off and on 3 times. He's an omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent entity right? It should be easy for him to do it.
Come back after and tell me how it went and be honest.
very good presentation from Frank.
I agree
Well of course it was good; nobody was there with a rebuttal for so much abusive ignorance about science.
@@piesho science has a flaw bud
@Ben Shapiro 0:12 "No one created something out of nothing (atheistic view)"
First of all, nobody cares what the atheistic view says about the origins of the universe; atheism provides science with nothing.
The scientific view, the view that provides actual evidence, is that there's no reason to believe that "someone" created the universe.
If Turek wants to advance the theistic view a millimeter, he needs to address the scientific evidence, not the opinions of atheists.
Turek's ignorance begins with the dichotomy he presents in the first seconds of this video. The rest is a very long and impetuous corollary.
The problem with saying that miracles don't happen is convincing the people who have seen them happen.
Pure science is nothing more than reasonable methods for dealing with physical things.
So true!
Science looks at the painting and ignores the painter.
@@loneneotank.5687 Then you should ask who created the painter😂
@@loneneotank.5687 If the painter came from nothing then the painting can also come from nothing
@@leyonmathew do you have any evidence for a painting that has existed for eternity? cmon dude it at least has to be logically coherent.
The big bang: the moment when god spoke and said "let there be light".
could be.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Other than you read it in a book, show everyone the evidence that the Big Bang was god speaking and saying "let there be light". Cold, hard, definite evidence please. Thanks.
Read Genesis
@@teeboiimunchies3261 You read Deuteronomy 13:13-19:21 and let me know what your religion tells you to do if someone worships a different god to yours. Don't waffle, or distract, tell everybody proudly what your religion orders you to do if someone in a town worships a different god. Go.
@@TonyEnglandUK not a religion and I think that's where most people get it wrong. A religion is a system put in place to segregate the minds of people into believing in different gods than the one true God who actually created them and everything that ever existed.
Kent Hovind for president, Frank Turek for VP.
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also william lane craig! he is probably the best apologist i have ever heard
+Xendrius Great guys, they are ^^
Yes please!
Santa Claus for Secretary of State.
The premise is wrong to begin with -
"Something" was not created out of "nothing."
The point is, the stuff already existed.
God simply commanded the elements, and organized it into worlds.
God is not God because he snaps his fingers and makes things happen.
God is God because He knows all things and makes His purpose our salvation.
We must choose to participate in God's plan or it serves no purpose for us.
I’ve actually known I was dreaming many times but I get his point hahahha. Love you Frank!
I agree, but the only reason you knew you were dreaming is because the dreamworld is inconsistent with reality, and we somehow pick up on that. We have something to compare it to. If we were in the matrix, we would have no "objective reality" to compare our experience to, so we would just thing that is the real reality.
@노라 yes, but we would still think the dream was reality, unless we knew what the objective reality was
“Free will is an illusion” is the perfect denial of responsibility. However... it isn’t true.
how do you get to that conclusion without free will
I didn’t deny free will. I said that the claim free will doesn’t exist isn’t true. It’s simply a denial of responsibility.
No it’s not, ultimately we don’t have free will, yeah we’re free to do what we want but we still supposedly get consequences like hell when we die
God BLESSED Frank Turek...🙌👍
How would multiple universes prove there is no Creator?
I feel sorry for Steve hawking.He died living his life as a vegetable only to find out that his miserable life here on earth was the only heaven he would know compared to where he's at now
That’s your opinion and and belief. I respect you to your own, but what you said can’t be demonstrated. And why would he be in hell? He didn’t believe in a god. So?
@@guyjosephs5654 thank you for for the respectful comment.uts not so much opinion as it is belief.Just because he didnt believe in God doesn't mean that God does not exist...HE is very real and His word very clearly states where all unbelievers go after this life.God loves you and sent his son for you...He's waiting for you to call out to Him...I respectfully urge you to seek him.there is no reason under the sun to go through this life trials and troubles...just to go to hell.once again thank you
@@jimmydykes7961 there may well be a god, but has it occured to you that all you have to go on is god's word? god telling you he is great and you can come to heaven sounds like a scam to me, especially as "oh you get this onetime offer after you are dead" when you can't change your mind.
i have this theory that god prefers atheists, that religion is designed to sort out people who just suck up, who want to get into heaven regardless of the cost, and will do anyyhting to stay out of hell, is that sincere? cos only an atheist can act sincerely - we have no fear of hell, no expectation of heaven, we do things becuse we think they are RIGHT, regardless of the consequences.
religion was invneted so god can pick out all the people that just suck up to him, he really wants people with the GUTS to defy him.
@@HarryNicNicholas you do not understand salvation.just saying God is great or I've been a good boy dont cut it.God sent his son Jesus to die for our sins..if you want to go to heaven you confess your sins ,ask for forgiveness,and ask Him to come into your heart...salvation is more than just getting into heaven..its a relationship with God through His Son Jesus Christ..His spirit becomes part of you and you walk and talk with Him on a daily basis...Knowing God is not some scam
I can't believe this doesn't have more views.
Mr. Turek thank you for these videos. I am with you on much if not all that you have been saying. Except, you can know your dreaming when your dreaming.
Blessings 💝
If you believe matter existed forever, what is so difficult with believing that God existed forever?
Name the atheist that said matter existed forever.
It is unknown.
Excellent Frank, excellent. Thank God and thank you.
go check how many times frank lied to yuo by reading anything that hawking actually said. you'll be surprised.
Creating such a perfect world with this amazing universe means someone must have designed it, such a greater power has to be even more magnificent and greater than his creation.
So how was this deity came about? Out of nothing? Seems religión doubts all science explanations for the creation of the universe due to the assertion there is no way something van came out of nothing but that same assertions doesn’t apply to their god.
Our minds can't fully fathom God's greatness
Dont see any assertions. its called logic hawkins had no logic theist actually have reason and logic to explain things rather than pulling it out of their butts. For ex. If the universe exist that means the creator had to be spaceless timeless and immaterial. It isnt an assertion its assertion based on the reason
@@Wdym41 lol .. before saying god is timeless and out of this reality , u have to demonstrate that he exists in the first place.. And you are asserting the universe had to have a creator without any data to back it up. And that's ur best argument ... An assertion without evidence is your best argument...so there you go .. straight out of your butt ! You poor deluded soul 😢
@@Wdym41 the deluded aren't aware of their misplaced intellect 🤗.. it's ok .. when you die and find no heaven to go to , you will understand ... Oh ! I forgot ... You won't understand ... Why ? .because you will be freaking dead !
@@_Stargazer_. funny how your the one making assertion that he doesnt exist with no reasoning at all....
Frank's last ascertain, you only know you're dreaming when you wake up, is wrong. You can know you're dreaming consciously, it's called lucid dreaming, and it's awesome. I have 2 or 3 a month, and I am amazed everytime I have 1.
Bryan Stortenbecker You’ve gotta have that checked. 😂
I think it’s more about the idea that if you never woke up you wouldn’t know you were dreaming. The state of “awake” has to exist to contrast “dreaming”
Bryan Stortenbecker You should look up Steven Bancarz on lucid dreaming
That’s why you’re wrong. You have to know you’re dreaming
I don't know I'm dreaming when I'm dreaming.
We are born mortal and sinful. We love wealth, power and fame. To believe in God, 🙏 we must be decrease and let God increase.
No atheist I know says anyone created any thing out of nothing, no one know what nothing is, no one says there was ever nothing but theist,
I think you worded it fine. Some times I think of God in a deistic way. Maybe he's just cruising by making planets. There are so many. I really want to believe but I feel foolish when I say it out loud and my questions never get answered. I'm glad you're not just reading scripture to me. I find it annoying when people do that, so thank you.
Thank you for addressing this. Most of it flew over my head but I know God is real and I know that by his grace and only his grace am I here able to write this testimony.
Meaning. His first question within himself was, "How can all these things be without a God" and he believes that with fantastical dreams he can support the idea that there isnt one.
What are the “fantastical dreams”?
Only an end boss like Dr. Frank is able To call the bluff on Stephen Hawkings. Thank you
Frank is just a mindless NPC that brings absolutely nothing to the game
You are the npc 😆
@@aeris4393 good one 🤜👏⭐⭐
Or, we just don't know enough . As an atheist, I don't believe the universe came from nothing.
Whatsisface 4 exactly, most of us don’t make an assertion about how this all began, we just don’t know.
Yeah thats it, if peoples dont know about some thing they will consider it as god or an activity of god, in ancient times peoples used to worship sun, moon and other stars about which they were not aware of
Or there is God. I don't think an atheist throwing that claim out there has anything more to add if they aren't there to provide some kind of solution to the God conundrum.
@@leyonmathew That’s called the god of the gaps argument. If you watch Frank’s presentation, you will find that he isn’t making that argument. He makes both valid and sound deductive arguments from evidence. The god of the gaps argument is just a scape goat atheists use when they don’t understand their opponent’s position and that is the first mistake of debate.
@@jaxsonfanta5420 there may well be a god, but has it occurd to you that all ou have to go on is god's word? god telling you he is great and you can come to heaven sounds like a scam to me, especially as "oh you get this onetime offer after you are dead" when you can't change your mind.
i have this theory that god prefers atheists, that religion is designed to sort out people who just suck up, who want to get into heaven regardless of the cost, and will do anyyhting to stay out of hell, is that sincere? cos only an atheist can act sincerely - we have no fear of hell, no expectation of heaven, we do things becuse we think they are RIGHT, regardless of the consequences.
religion was invneted so god can pick out all the people that just suck up to him, he really wants people with the GUTS to defy him.
Question: If someone made something out of nothing, then there was no "nothing" in the first place, there actually was "someone" hence, there was also something. Someone can't "be" nothing.
So even if there was a God, what was before him? "God is Eternal", you'll say.
So there was never nothing? I don't get it. There was always something then? If so, there is no need to create something out of nothing. Then there is no need for someone to create something, because something always existed.
Either you define God as nothing (Stop the argument right away, that's just ridiculous)
or you blend some other weird theory in there.
Could someone explain me this?
Gian-Marco Moder One has to take into account what the definition of "nothing" is as dependent upon with whom one is talking with the definition of "nothing" is actually something. It is rather confusing if one takes the normal definition of "nothing" as what is being talked about.
There has always been God. Thus there has never been nothing. God per the Bible is not material He is a Spirit (John 4:24). God has always been, He is the Alpha and Omega who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty (Revelation 1:8). People who believe in God and give God credit for creating everything (logic, physics, mathematics, gravity, universe, all life including you and me) understand that God has always existed and thus there was never, nothing... there always was and will always be God. God created everything from His Almighty power and spoke everything material and immaterial (logic, physics, mathematics, gravity, universe, all life including you and me) into existence and time started.
Those people who do not have a belief in God and/or claim that God doesn't exist however, have to admit per scientific discoveries, that the universe had a beginning (which many call the big bang). There is only speculation by these people about how the universe started - some claim that there was a point smaller than a period (.) called a singularity which for whatever reason exploited at just the right timing to create the universe in such specific means to support life (you and me). These people who do not have a belief in God and/or claim that God does not exist, have no explanation as to what a singularity is/was OR how the singularity came to be OR what caused it to explode AND per no one being able to go back in time to perform scientific tests on what actually happened, none of these people can ever actually affirm their speculation about a singularity existing and exploding at precisely the exact rate and expanding at exactly correct timing to create everything and support life (you and me). Let alone can any of these people who have no belief in God and/or claim that God does not exist explain why there is immaterial logic, physics, mathematics, etc. or even show that life came from nonlife (rocks).
There is only evidence of one universe; the one we live in... only speculation exists for multiverses created by the people who do not believe in and/or claim God does not exist. For anyone who wants to claim that multiverses exist which is why our universe exists begs the question, how did the multiverse come into existence?
I hope this helps.
FindingTruthToday You are doing the same as Turek -- constantly stating your own assumptions and voids of knowledge as fact. You operate from a biased perspective: that there is definitely a God no matter what. So it really doesn't matter what science reveals or what theoretical scientists "speculate." You will always assume that they are wrong and you are right. But regardless, I'll address a few of your points specifically. . .
1) "There has always been God." Thank you for at least stating your bias clearly up front. There is no evidence for God. Yes, there is good reason for questioning the nature and origins of reality, but no reason to conclude that a god did it. The God hypothesis could turn out to be true, but this is unlikely since there has been no evidence thus far supporting it.
2) "There is only speculation by these people about how the universe started." Well now you're just pulling a Turek. To dismiss all of the cosmic observations, centuries of scientific research, theoretical science, computer simulations, and real-world results of this quest (a-bomb, space exploration, super computers, particle accelerators to name a few) as nothing more than "speculation" is absurd. The word "theory" does not equate to "speculation." A scientific theory successfully explains all evidence (observational/experimental, and mathematical) that has ever been found. It has survived the skepticism, the scientific scrutiny, and stood the test of time. Have you heard of Edwin Hubble? He worked for THOUSANDS of hours before he noticed that his data revealed that the universe is expanding. This was not "speculation." This was anything but. The big bang theory is no more speculative than the theory of gravity or the theory of evolution. But to those who don't understand the theories or the evidence, it's easy to dismiss them as "speculation."
3) "These people...have no explanation as to what a singularity is..." Speak for yourself. I happen to understand what a singularity is on a basic level, but since I'm not a high-level mathematician, I admit that this understanding is limited. The best explanation that I've found for a singularity can be found in QST (quantized space theory). I recommend "Einstein's Intuition" by Thad Roberts. Fascinating. I walked away with an understanding of space and time that I honestly believe Einstein himself did not have. Granted, there have been many developments in the 100 years since Einstein started his quest. But anyway, the point is that YOU have no explanation. It might be true that no one has an explanation, but you cannot assume such a stance. You should only speak for yourself or quote specific people.
4) "Let alone can any of these people who have no belief in God and/or claim that God does not exist explain why there is immaterial logic, physics, mathematics, etc." This is the same as point 3 above. Speak for yourself! Imagine the responses you might have gotten if instead of claiming that no one has an explanation, you instead framed it as a question. "Can any of these non-believers explain why there is immaterial logic...?" That way, rather than pushing people away, you might trigger some thoughts and conversation. Plus, your original point would still be made through implication. But when I come across people who assume rather than inquire, it's usually because they have an agenda to accomplish. I'd ask what your agenda is, but you've already stated it.
5) ". . .only speculation exists for multiverses created by the people who do not believe in and/or claim God does not exist." Once again, a baseless assumption. Turek is also great at making statements like this. The multiverse theory came from theoretical scientists working on mathematical models which could potentially explain our ONE universe. Unfortunately for them, the refinements that they made to those theories -- in efforts to align them with our observations -- also affected the implications of the math. The multiverse theory is not some dreamt-up speculation. It is what the math alludes to (at least in string theory and quantum mechanics). Similar to how Hubble discovered the expanding universe, but different because these are mathematical models rather than spectroscopic data.
6) ". . .how did the multiverse come into existence?" I'm so glad you asked! The best explanation that I have found so far is QST (quantum space theory). Thad Roberts explains QST brilliantly in his new book, "Einstein's Intuition." The book as been in the oven for several years (I actually read a draft of it years ago before it was published), and it was finally released a few months ago. einsteinsintuition.com/buy-the-book/
I can't recommend the book highly enough. If and when the larger scientific community begins to take this more seriously, I believe that we are in store for another great scientific revolution. Of course, Christians will do what they always do: find something else that we don't understand and say "God did it." I used to do this myself. I would always find ways to tie God into whatever new scientific information came my way. But eventually there came a point when I had to consider whether God really fit into the equation. For me, the answer was no. I could not remain curious and open-minded, yet simultaneously believe in the Bible. But the journey is very personal; I understand this now. To each his own!
Hope this helps,
Aaron
aarongrooves
You constantly stating your own assumptions and voids of knowledge as fact. So it doesn’t matter the abundance of evidence pointing to God, you will always assume that God doesn’t exist because you ignore all the evidence pointing to God existing.
I’ll address a few of your points specifically:
You claim that there is no evidence supporting God existing. What specific evidence will you accept of God existing?
You claim that I dismiss all the cosmic observations and centuries of scientific research, theoretical science, computer simulations, and real-world results of this quest (a-bomb, space exploration, super computers, particle accelerators to name a few) which I do not dismiss any of it. Yet you are ignoring that all humans (including you and me and everyone past, present, and future) are limited to only observing evidence and speculating based upon one’s worldview to what caused what is being observed to occur or have occurred. Your worldview which doesn’t accept God existing, has to constantly break Occam's razor.
Since there is no evidence supporting God creating everything in your atheistic worldview, multiverse and other atheistic theories are really just a substitute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. At a minimum purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe.
You claim to know what a “singularity” is on a basic level… well, from where did the singularity come? For what reason did the singularity explode? What caused the singularity during its explosion to regulate precisely the amount of time needed for everything in the universe to be able to support life here on earth? How do you know God didn’t do it?
Please explain why in your materialistic worldview there are immaterial things such as logic, physics, mathematics, etc.? Have you ever considered that God created them?
You claim that multiverses are based on observations yet as already stated in #2 above multiverses break Occam’s razor. The “anthropic principle”-the idea that the physical features of our world are ideally suited for life on earth, has been an annoyance to atheists who believe that our universe and life on earth are products of random processes. It has been difficult for atheists to explain even the physical constants of the universe without resorting to some sort of “intelligent design” position thus atheists created a multiverse to the rescue!
The notion that parallel universes exist is not a new idea. The latest versions of the multiverse concept postulate that there exist other realities in which even the physical laws which govern our universe are different. Thus, given enough time and enough realities, random processes could result in absolutely anything. And the random processes which produced “us” are just the only ones we know about.
The multiverse to an atheist comes as necessity and as a matter of faith, and not even the kind of faith held by Bible-believing creationists who are able to see that no valid indisputable scientific observations violate God’s Word. Yet reputable secular scientists are able to freely discuss their faith-filtered scientific opinions on the multiverse question while mocking the positions held by creation scientists.
You seem to have great faith in the multiverse and even read a book about it…
How curious it is that the scientifically supportable information in the Bible is mocked while atheistic faith in a multiverse; which by definition is allowed to violate any scientific laws needed, is esteemed and revered by atheists! While multiverse notions make good fodder for sci-fi, we in the real world need to remember that the idea represents one more effort to randomize God out of the reality human beings must face in this world and the next.
See #2 and #5 above
Yes, you are correct in that the journey is very personal. For each and every one God lets us make up his/her own mind on accepting Him or not. God does not force anyone to be with Him who chooses to not want to be with Him. I hope you change your mind before it is too late for you to do so.
FindingTruthToday Sorry for the delay. It's that time of year when things get a little crazy. I'll try to keep this one shorter! (In retrospect, I definitely failed. Haha!)
You seem to have ignored most of what I said except the first paragraph, when you echo my words back at me: "You constantly stating your own assumptions and voids of knowledge as fact." But just because you say it doesn't make it true. I make it very clear when I offer my opinion as opposed to when I state current theory. I even said, in my last comment, "The God hypothesis could turn out to be true, but this is unlikely..." I hardly state anything as definitive. Absolute certainty is something that I lost long ago. Religious people, on the other hand, seem very comfortable being 100% positive that they are right. Of course, if you were any less than 100%, then you wouldn't be Christian. So I guess you are required to close your mind and reject doubt in order to be a true believer...
There's no such thing as an "atheistic" theory. A theory is a theory. All scientific theories are currently accepted by people of many different belief or non-belief systems. The Pope accepts evolution, although many of his followers reject it. But evolution is no more "atheistic" than red wine is Christian.
You asked, "What specific evidence will you accept of God existing?" I'd except God materializing in my room right now and saying, "I am God, and I am real." I would except God miraculously transforming my 4 1/3 octave marimba into a 5-octave marimba. I'd except ANY miracle! But anecdotal evidence doesn't count, because I can't experience someone else's miracle. And if it's not a miracle, then why attribute it to anything other than nature?
Occam's razor is often distorted, used inappropriately in a subjective manner, which happens quite commonly. However, one can't use Occam's razor to validate a conclusion based on ignorance. For instance, if someone already believes that the first human was created by blowing into the chopped up body parts of a dead beaver (a Native American creation myth), then to them, that makes the most sense; they could claim by Occam's razor that this story is true, because it's clearly the most simple and straightforward explanation. But this is not how Occam's razor works. Occam's razor must be used in conjunction with real-life evidence, or at the very least, information that can be shared and its accuracy verified. One person's "logical explanation" is not sufficient. Unfortunately, each of your invocations of Occam's razor is of this distorted variety.
You wrote an entire paragraph about the anthropic principle which is so ridiculous that I honestly can't tell if you're being serious or trolling. If you are being serious, then I'll happily explain to you why I find this paragraph so puzzling.
Atheists have been around since long before the multiverse theory. It is not necessary, and it is not a matter of "faith." I'm still not convinced of it, personally, but I do find the research interesting, and I think it's more likely than the single-universe view which is dominant today. I need more info.
You asked a lot of questions about the singularity, but you haven't read the book that I told you I directly got most of my answers from. I'm telling you again, if you read and understand that book, then it will change your current view of the fabric of space time. By the way, singularities are only a small part of this book, so please don't bash the book and pass ignorance-fueled judgments on it. Multiverse theory is an even smaller part. Your comment, "You seem to have great faith in the multiverse and even read a book about it…" is false. I've written nothing about having strong support for or "great faith" in multiverse theory. Please don't put words into my mouth.
If you really believe the things that you wrote above, then you clearly don't understand multiverse theory, Occam's razor, atheism, the anthropic principle, or many of the things that you mentioned. You definitely don't understand what atheists believe, and it would really be helpful if you would stop making sweeping statements about what they believe. If you want to know what I believe, then you can ask ME. I can speak about my own views, the atheists that I've learned from, the works I've read, and my atheist friends. But most of my atheist friends aren't quite as scientifically literate as I am.
Finally, if you choose to reply, would you please do two simple, quick things:
1) Read my actual comments before replying to them.
2) Proofread your response for inaccurate claims about what I believe and what I say. I really don't enjoy being misquoted and having words/thoughts attributed to me that I did not say or think.
If this is too much, then we can end our discussion here. I promise I will not be offended if I don't here back lol. Thanks!
aarongrooves you stated, "Absolute certainty is something that I lost long ago." so are you absolutely certain that you don't hold to absolutes?
Please give me two examples of you being absolutely against being absolutely certain.
If nothing made everything, then who made the nothing?
Noone
Believers: God created everything
Atheist: No one/nothing created everything, its accident
@@davidczoramhluna8744 , it may be that our universe is a quantum inevitability. It may be the case that our universe not coming into being is the impossible thing.
How many times have things gone from nonexistence into existence in Tureks experience? With that knowledge, how can you possibly affirmatively attribute characteristics to things that go from nonexistence to existence.
How arrogrant must you be to make such a conclusion?
@joashsmusic except nothing had to turn into something at least once, or else there would continue to be nothing. The point I'm making is that nobody has any experience with this type of phenomenoa. Nobody understands this type of phenomenoa (and anyone who says they do is LYING to you). So how the hell can Turek positively attribute characteristics to such a phenomenoa. It is the height of arrogance to suggest you have an understanding to the exclusion of other ideas and which runs contrary to the experts in a particular subject, of something which by your own definition you CANNOT understand...yet.
@@stupidrules1000 that's not true. you say that there IS nothing outside of the universe or at least nothing created the universe and that is impossible, but if there is something it had to be created by something that is NOT created while still BEING. and that is the very concept of God, a creator that is not created and therefore is not worldly like everything inside the universe that follows that concept of requiring creation
@@Smoomty I've made no assertions. I've responded to the assertions made by Turek and, seemingly, you. You said "nothing will always produce nothing." I responded to that assertion, by saying that it had to happen at least once. Meaning that, even in your construct of, what I will call "god" as to not get pendantic, he had to take nothing and turn it into something. That process exists completely outside of the scope of our ability to observe, test, and frankly, understand....if it happened. I'm saying that affirmatively and confidently attributing characteristics to a thing which, by definition, you CANNOT understand, is the height of arrogance and a flawed epistemology.
@@Smoomty moreover, the concept of an u created being which created the universe is just assertion. It's not a statement based in observable reality, nor is it based in logical necessity (despite the claims of many theists). The universe could be eternal. There is exactly the same amount of evidence that the universe is eternal as there is that a space less timeless formless being created everything. Actually, there is more evidence that the universe is eternal because we can actually observe the universe, we cannot observe and measure this magic creature.
To suggest that you have an understanding sufficient to draw final conclusions on this is a lie. Turek needs to stop telling it.
These videos are food to my soul!
As an agnostic I actually like turek
As a Christian, I can't stand him and don't think he understands much of the Bible at all.
To be honest you're right, he sucks
He totally straw-manned Stephen Hawking on his beliefs in determinism.
Of course he did. He purposely misrepresents atheism and science and scientists all the time. He’s been doing this long enough he’s either too lazy to do research or he has and is lying. Or both.
Does Mr.Hawkins think the machine that helps him live and communicate is real or just thought? If nothing is reality to him why doesn't he just turn that machine (which someone designed) off. where does he say gravity comes from? where does the first thought come from? since there is no reality why would there be multiple universes? let's pray for Mr. Hawkins be visited by the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus to him. be loved
The words I fear the most: "I never knew you" coming from Jesus Christ after physical death. Words cannot describe how awful it would be to hear that.
Someone created something out of the elements already present which are eternal. - Joseph Smith jr.
I think this one makes even more sense, since Frank says nothing comes from nothing.
If god is that which is eternal, then this becomes semantical (don't mean that dismissively). Those eternal elements are, by definition, part of god. So I am not sure this idea is even in disagreement
(Made in our image etc)
@Ben Shapiro Who created the elements? Well, the answer is in the quote. They were not created. They were there. You ask me how, I say I don`t know :) The fact is that we don`t have all the answers. Why would the elements be there? Maybe the purpose of elements is to give purpose. To create and give life.
@Ben Shapiro The point is that matter can neither be created or destroyed just refined, rearranged, or moved, meaning that creation happens when God commands matter to be arranged int such a way that gives desired results.
He is a really smart grown up germ, that is why we should trust in Hawking's writings over God's
tell me mr "you can't get life from non-life" EVERYTHING in the universe is made from three things, electrons, protons and neutrons, none of them are alive. how can you be alive?
@@HarryNicNicholas not sure what you are sayin'.
Based solely on his tone and mannerisms, you would assume he is talking to a room of children. Then you listen to what he's actually saying and assume the children must have brain damage.
Great philosophical and scientific refutation of Turek!
Oh, wait..
@@chriscravens8318 I have posted serious refutations on nearly every one of his videos. I either get silence or people telling me that Jesus loves me. So I tried something different.
The universe might be finely tuned for life...but it seems pretty well-tuned for death too.
Unfortunately sin has lead to this, but you need to be a believer to truly understand it.
thats just due to physical laws, it doesnt distinguish the fine-tuning
No beginning.... No end.
Time isn't a thing.
Just God.
Okay....and just who created the "someone"? "Someone" can't just appear out of nowhere right?
You are exactly right: everything that has a beginning must have a cause. Because the universe has a beginning, it must have a cause. What does this imply for God? It means the creator has no beginning, and therefore always was, and therefore never "appeared." Thus it is written:
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Revelation 1:8)
God needs no creator because he was never created. You, evidently, were. Therefore you have a creator. Thus it is written,
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. (Genesis 1:27)
@ Holly Wood, you're just going to get the standard response from the lame-brained, feeble-minded brainwashed christian morons. They will tell you that you can't say this and can't say that, whilst making sure they don't have any such limitations on what they say. It's a fascist-style power-trip for the dumbass theists. They will claim everything must have a creator, whilst clutching firmly to the convenient delusion that they worship something that is specially and specifically designed by them to be exception to all the rules they say you must obey. It's just a cop-out.
So am I the only crazy one who thinks (sometimes) that I'm in a dream when I'm ACTUALLY dreaming??😁
Mademoiselle Janeite I’m the same way..I actually know when I’m dreaming..I will go from one place to another with know way of how I got there except for changing scenery almost..and the only way to get out of it is to wake up..hard to explain
@@protectwildlifeanimals8163 exactly even waking up is sometimes in your power
I'm fasting and had a dream I ate frosted cereals mmm those dream cereals were delicious