One of the very best and very informative reviews in TH-cam of this Longines VHP watch. The best part is you have shown quite many alternatives high accuracy watch. Seeing the time setting I can summarise that perhaps the best choice would be the 3 handers only. I think every enthusiasts must own a good quartz pieces besides automatics. And if you ask me honestly I think automatics are just a gimmick having a cost occurring issue like servicing. A good quartz watch should also keep on running for generations unless they are $20 quartz movement.
A thoroughly professional and excellent review. As the owner of the non GMT version, this is a brilliant watch. WR is fine, swim shower no problem. It's all in the mind. Of course the anti quartz brigade won't like it. And those used to wearing the Antikythera mechanism on wrist to elivate their internal perceived status.
Shane, this is by far the best watch review I've watched on TH-cam. It was exactly what I needed for this watch as it's a completely new technology from me. It was informational, nuanced, and detailed. You addressed a lot of the points I had in my mind about this watch, which really shows how prepared you were for this. I can definitely make an informed purchase now thanks to you and this video.
@@RelativeTime, this for any of your viewers with OCD. Look closely at many of the automatic movements, I can see it tick. They definitely don't sweep. 😉
Alright so, to make things clear about the battery situation. The hands will jump when the battery is low, that's true. It will go in hibernation mode, and still keep time for 6 months, that's also true. When it comes to replace the battery, it's not more complicated than any other Quartz watch. It uses a renata 380, when you remove the battery, the watch can be left up to 24 hours without one, after that, it needs to go back to Longines. But let's face it here, you just buy the battery ahead of time and that's it. I've done it on mine, zero problems. I have the 3 hander L288. Don't need to make it sound like it's a complicated or difficult thing, because it's not.
That's good to know. Like I said, I didn't find anything saying you can't. Yet I also found a number of other owners who said they just sent it back to longines for about $70. How long did your battery last before you had to replace it?
@@RelativeTime I purchased mine when it first came out, back April or May of 2017. It started jumping seconds about a month ago and it took me by surprise because I was expecting 5 years. But well, I never used the "hibernation" mode when I wasn't wearing the watch... And I did play a lot with it when I first got it lol. So I just purchased the Renata 380 and did it myself. I did left the watch without a battery for 6 hours to see what would happen lol. But nothing happened haha. I also messed the the hands with a Quartz tester to see what would happen and the watch did readjust itself. Just one thing to note, you'll need a very fine, watchmaker style, flat head screwdriver because the battery has a little cage that holds it in place. Cheers and good work! I love mine
@@El1988Che I'm thinking I read something about if the battery runs out, as long as it is replaced within about 6 months, the perpetual date will stay accurate. More than that and it has to go back to Longines. Does that ring a bell to you?
Thanks for this info!..the battery issue really put me off.. Think I may go ahead now though..think I may order one of those leather rally's straps with the holes in too..that looks very tasty!
What a wonderful, informative and objective review. You have posed all of the questions that one should consider before pulling the trigger on this watch. You do this all with your Velvet Fog (Mel Torme/old guy reference) voice which makes it all the more fun to hear.
I've had my VHP / GMT for a few years now. It's not my daily watch but it's close. I would say 2nd next to my Damasco DC58. I picked the Conquest, because it is truly a great travel watch. I travel for business frequently and am always jumping from time zone to time zone. Manual, hour jumps are golden if you don't want to use the app, but most important at, train stations or airports it's accurate. Very accurate. This is why I opted for for the quartz movement. It does hold the worlds most accurate watch title, which it shares with citizen. It's clean easy to read comfortable, very well finished and performance is very hard to beat. Longines is all over the EU and North America. I have yet to change the battery, and if I'm at home have no worry of changing it myself, but if I'm traveling don't worry either since you can find a Longines AD almost anywhere. I've never had any water issues with it but I don't use it as a dive watch. I can recommend it to anyone who travels for business or pleasure. It's a great piece you can completely depend on.
love your channel. Really clear and helpful reviews of watches that are mostly accessible for people who don't watch F1 races from private boxes. Thanks for doing this.
Excellent review. Many thanks. I am a commercial airline pilot, flying to most of the globe. This functionality and precision make this a great option. It might not be mechanical, ... but then my mechanical watches are for a different purpose. I am leaning towards the silver dial version. Thanks again.
I got mine for travel purposes in the future but I really want the blue pilot‘s chronograph from IWC when I’m get to my destination. I‘ve been wearing it frequently and it’s very nice!
Intriguing watch! At the beginning of the video I thought 'meh!' The longer the video took and the more I learned about the watch the more fascinated I became! This is what makes an excellent review! 👏
This watch is a roller coaster. On it's face, it seems like a "perfect" watch and I was really interested before I started learning more. Then I learned about the low WR, no screw down crown, strange interface, typical Swiss anti-customer battery fuckery and the butter fly clasp that literally nobody actually likes. It has an awesome case back!
Movement wise it is a winner. I almost bought this one. Will buy if I get a used one at good price. The reason I did not buy is because it does not have a screw down crown. 100-200m WR would have been great. You are right, I see these watches sit in stores past 2 years. They look very smart.
I actually own the white dial version and know 3 people personally that own this very blue dial version. Great watch especially the flash functions and I think I only paid about $650 for mine new. Bracelet does have half links for fine tunes adjustment if you haven't noticed.
Shane, glad you covered this watch. A great underrated value. I have a casio oceanus which covers the GMT need in my collection, but I do like the HAQ movement here.
This was an excellent review. I usually mind "longer" videos because they are full of unnecessary stuff just to make them longer but this one was spot on. Then I take a look at the upvote count and "only 813"... damn. Well, have a +1 from me. Thanks for the review!
It’s a great watch, extremely well made and executed. After much deliberation I bought a white dial 43mm version yesterday and am very happy with it. With regards the water resistance; I have an automatic Conquest GMT and it also is 5ATM. No screw down crown and a display case back. It’s 42mm and is considerably thicker than the VHP and much heavier also. Just a point I thought I’d mention for balance. Oh, and with regards to price, that’s one deciding factor. An authorised dealer selling brand new at 50% off…. £560, I consider it a bargain. Great review, thanks for the effort you obviously put in. 👍🏻
Longines Switzerland has confirmed in writing that even if you remove the battery for more than 24hrs you will not have any problems resetting the perpatual calendar with the Longines App. Unlike the non-GMT/Flash variant that you will have to send back to Switzerland. I feel this sort of information should have been out there by default by the watch maker and not only when customers make an enquiry.
I literally just got home from purchasing a preowend non gmt version of the VHP and this review was in my recommend list. Got it on a rubber strap with butterfly clasp which actually has 5 micro adjustments, 3 on one side and 2 on the other. Which works perfectly for my wrist size. On the battery replacement, the salesman said that they would do it without it having to send it to Longines unless I wanted to make sure it retained its 50m water resistance. Which will not be an issue since it won't be getting that wet. Having mostly automatics in my collection I wanted to get a precise quartz added in. Looked at Grand Seiko but I found the Longines much more comfortable on wrist, a little thinner and a third of the price of GS. Like you mention in the review pictures don't do the dial justice. Get it in sunlight and it really comes to life. Very simple dial but done very well! Another great review and really enjoyed your take on the gmt version. Thank you! Cheers P.s. still waiting to hear from Helm 🤞
@@RelativeTime I have the black/ gray dial . It's amazing in different light and with the tech behind it should be a no brainer. Still a keeper for you?
Great video, as always, Shane! I'm fascinated by the high-accuracy quartz watches. I've been eyeing the Longines non-GMT VHPs, and your video helps confirm that is the route I'd prefer to go down.
Shane, I want to thank you for reminding me of the good ol’ days with Palm Pilots and the syncing dances we had to do. I’m especially fond of the times when I’d inadvertently move my hand, thereby breaking the link mid-sync and having to start over. Good times!
Good Times indeed. Had my fair share of Palms and Handspring PDAs over the years. A buddy of mine even had the Qualcom PDQ, the first Palm Cell Phone. It was so cool at the time, but man that thing was so buggy he could barely use it.
Just bought the silver dial-43mm one, your review was one of the reasons that helped decide my purchase. Answered a lot of questions about the watch. Looking forward to this addition to my collection. Thank you and cheers!
I have a silver dial conquest quartz as my “1 watch collection “ watch as it really can adapt to anything. 300m wr, simply classy look….. I use it from casual to dress- even on a worksite at times. May upgrade to non gmt vhp one day. Also have a vintage Longines for true dress watch. Big fan of your channel and the brand and it’s nice to see something outside of their heritage line get some attention. Take care!
I like certain Longines models - the Conquest and Hydro-Conquest in particular. I own homages to both (the Cadisen shown early in the video and the Phylida of the other) and as a result the gorgeous blue variant of the Hydro-Conquest is definitely on my must get list. Nothing wrong with a GOOD quartz watch Bulova Lunar Pilot is also VERY high on my to get list as is the Bulova Curv.
I've had a longines quartz watch since 2002. So under rated. So good and bargain . Forget the overpriced Rolex. Over 20 years is amazing still accurate and only 3 battery changes.
Agree with what you said about Rolex. I took my in for a minor service took 8 months to get back. If you have any issues you can’t deal with Rolex have to deal with the authorized retailer.
I have both automatic and quartz watches in my collection. I always have a laugh when "enthusiasts" criticize quartz pieces. My Grand Seiko, Sinn, and Marine Master more than surpassed my expectations. Though I like the look of this Longines, I just don't have a need for its many functions. I tend to make purchases based on my needs. Anyway, Shane, another great review.
I too laugh. I give wrist time to both my Timex watches as well as my Laco and everything in between. Sometimes I even throw on my later dads Seiko Quartz LC Chronograph digital watch which I’ve always kept running since he passed away. “Enthusiasts” seem to lack one thing when it comes to enthusiasm for watches. They don’t appreciate all watches for what they are. Maybe not MVMT. 🤣 but even then, agree or not, they have helped bring watches to vogue in a world where smart watches were said to spell the demise of our regular old fashioned mechanical, automatic and quartz watches.
@@whatsstefon Recently had quite the row with an idiotic _watch idiot savant_ that refused to accept/admit that quartz watches are objectively superior time telling tools than mechanical watches. We all _like_ the sweep of a mechanical watch but quartz are more magnitudes accurate and cheaper to install and cheaper to maintain.
@@Mister_Phafanapolis hilarious. I mean, come on. You can enjoy your nice mechanical, but you can also enjoy a quartz watch. Each have their benefits and downfalls. But I guess some folks assume that quartz means inferior or fake. No one seems to despise Eco-Drive, Grand Seiko, or some of the higher end brands like Omega and Longines with their quartz GMT VHP models and such. Not to mention the mecaquartz movements that have the sweeping seconds hand along with accuracy. Perhaps when they think of quartz, they think of the Casio knockoff they owned as a child that was given to them from out of a bubble gum machine. It can be challenging shaking off that kind of negative association to some. Each to their own. I always say wear what brings you the most joy. I bought a G Shock last year to see what all the hype was about. As a man in his 40s, I felt like I needed to get my old GI Joe action figures out and go play outside. Apart from the quartz accuracy, the watch was a poor execution of a timepiece. The blue hands against a black watch was difficult to read. The light was a joke that didn’t even have enough oomph to illuminate anything. The Timezone adjustments were so complicated to get through, not to mention the physical size of the watch essentially being a magnet for bumping into everything. I sold it. My ordinary Timex Expedition did what I needed to do. The Casio went to a G Shock fanatic. So the outcome is perfect. They now have another watch they love, I have a watch I love. Everyone’s a winner! Just because someone likes the G Shock doesn’t make them ones enemy. Their watch choice isn’t a personal attack. But a lot of folks will fight nail and tooth over telling you you’re wrong instead of appreciating your reasons for a watch, no matter if it came from a bubble gum machine or some artisan from the Swiss alps delivered to you on a herons beak, encased in a Faberge egg.
@@whatsstefon, the irony here is that many of the critics of quartz incessantly praise their low end automatic movements. I agree with you, I have a Grand Seiko, Sinn, and a Marine Master that I swear by. 👍😉
My thoughts about the GMT version, the 3-hand Conquest MHP is a bit simpler. Otherwise, a lot of the functions are there to conserve battery life if watch isn't being worn, or to maintain accurate time if it experiences a strong magnetic field or a hard knock. Otherwise, once set you generally don't have to do anything.
Great review 👍 . A fascinating watch, it makes me wonder how development would have gone if most buyers of high value watches weren't so keen on mechanical movements.
I love mine. The higher accuracy and perpetual calendar are fantastic. The watch looks great and the price is not that high for what you get. I do own a handful of good mechanical watches, and they have their place but this is one of my favorites
Great review as always Shane. Love the watch, and I agree, the 50M of WR is ridiculous... The functionality of the app is a definite concern and would preclude me from buying it. Time to do a state of the collection video!
I have two of these. Because of the accuracy. It's only downfall is the 50 meters. Every good watch should be 100 meters minimum. Caveat: when programming the GMT with the phone application, make sure the room is dark enough. I thought mine was broken when new, because even holding the phone led right over the watch didn't work until I turned the overhead light off.
Thanks for highlighting this somewhat niche time piece. I agree that there are many ways to skin a cat but Longine’s decision to mix old with new tech is definitely interesting. Maybe even odd. That being said, I think it is a understated watch that would attract a certain kind of person. I wish I had seen this video before my most recent purchase. It’s a Citizen EcoDrive with perpetual calender. I’ll let you know how it goes with the set up.
Yah let me know. I think there are a few videos on how to do it if you have trouble. I gave the one I reviewed a long time ago to my father-in-law. He has a hard time figuring it out, so twice a year he bring it by so that I can change the time for day light savings.
Fantastic review. I’ve got several mechanical watches and was after a high quality quartz and a gmt to complete my collection and this ticks both boxes. Got it 20% off rrp. It arrives tomorrow👍🤙
Hi Shane, thanks for the great videos! On the VHP GMT, when you're setting the local time manually by pulling the crown: 1-does the travel time also change like a mechanical GMT watch would do or can you adjust both independantly from each other? 2-The seconds hand moves to 12, but does the time continue to move so the seconds hand goes back to where it should be when you push the crown back in or is it equivalent to hacking the movement ? Thank you very much for your time, cheers!
Thanks for the review Shane of a great looking watch, as for the battery situation, simple solution "Solar" I've got the Casio Oceanus 100 can't think of a better watch for the price, thanks again ...stay safe
I bought the 41 mm version with the white dial a year ago. I bought with a ss bracelet and then added the original black rubber strap. Used both and ended up liking the rubber more: comfortable, versatile, looks both sporty and dressy. Overall I love the watch very much. Since I have about 30 watches from $50 to $20,000, I use this one mostly for traveling. The ideal watch for traveling as it suites any situation. Despite pandemic, managed to visit Croatia, Greece, Morocco, Brazil, Spain, Turkey and Georgia. Brazil was the only country to which I did not dare to take the Longines.
Great review, something different I own a Casio Oceanus 100 which in my opinion is perhaps the best value and is really a set it and forget it. i look forward to you're review and yes the lume isn't great but at 83 grams I hardly notice it
I have the three hand Conquest VHP and I can confidently confirm it is not accurate to +/- 5 seconds per year. Mine gains about 1 second every two weeks. But, I do not wear very often, and I think it may keep better time if it is worn as the body temperature is relatively consistent. I find it a very nicely made, if a little heavy and bulky, watch. Also, the bracelet pins are of the push out type instead of screw in pins.
Interesting watch, not sure if it’s going to be on my list shame it didn’t have a. Meca quartz movement the there would be no issues with the second hand alignment
Virgin Longines Conquest for 1000USD with 50m WR which has to be sent back for battery change Vs Chad Casio World Time for 20USD with 100m and literally every and anybody with a screwdriver can change the battery
With only a 2 position smart crown, you cannot manually set the date. The flash app is hit or miss because it is finicky about lighting. Once set, I love it. But was close to dropping $1000+ under a hammer then the trash. Just changed the battery for the first time. Took an hour to get the flash app to work.
I didn't think about the date. Maybe it's like a true GMT where you can only advance it by advancing the hour? I'll have to check with mine. Coincidentally, I had to recently changed the battery in mine too. Wasn't quite as bad as I thought. Flash app still won't work on my phone, but luckily it still works somewhat reliably on my iPad. Like you said, once set and working fine I love it. But I do worry about the future with it. I love that it automatically updates for daylight savings. Yet with talk of ending it here in the US, I wonder if that's going to become a problem where it still thinks it's going on. Great concept, I just wish longines would follow through making the app better and keeping it updated.
I just got mine 2 months ago but not gmt version. My second hand doesn't hit the markers too. Its like 1/4 off from marker 6 o'clock to marker 11 o'clock but the rest is perfect. So sad haha
I have the non-GMT version of this watch at the top of my wish list, with the blue dial (the red accents really set it off). My biggest concern is the size. I have a wrist on the smaller size. Have an Orient watch at 40.5mm and while a bit large, the size grew on me so the 41mm should be ok. But I'm concerned with what you said about the crown and crown guard taking it up closer to 45mm. I'm definitely looking for a good return policy! Anyway, I love my automatic watches but this Longines has technology and looks that are really calling to me and it is the only one that would make me consider a costlier quartz watch (thought nowhere near say, and Omega or a Grand Seiko quartz, even pre-owned.
True. I just checked out the Certina Podium Precidrive 40mm (they offer a number of sizes with 40mm the smallest). They do list it as COSC certified with water resistance to 100mm. As of yet, descriptions of the Precidrive sounds like it's not quite as sophisticated technologically as the Longines, but it does have it's benefits in size, water resistance, crown guard curved and crown appears not to project as much as the Conquest MHP. Shopping around, it does appear this watch can be found at lower prices than the Longines. It's reported to be accurate within 10 seconds per year (0.07 seconds per month).
As usual it is the butterfly clasp that stops me from getting a Longines. Since you have used the „engineer bracelet“ in the past and I have put it on some watches already: do you think it would be a good match?
I considered Grand Seiko HAQ, I considered this, but now I'm after a Citizen Chronomaster. They're also accurate to 5 seconds a day, and have have perpetual calendars, but they're also solar, so no worries about battery changes. And they have near Grand Seiko level fit and finish. No GMT, though. And they're JDM only, so rare as hen's teeth in the US.
There is also the new Citizen Caliber 100, which I think is accurate to within a second a year. Crazy cool technology, but I think they are going for about $7k right now. How much is the chornomaster.
Chronomasters run about $2,000-$3,000 or so, depending. Price is a bit hard to say, since you have to buy gray market from Japan. The Caliber 0100 doesn't have a (perpetual) calendar, so the Chronomaster is more fun. And the Chronomaster comes in a number designs, which I think are more attractive.
@@RelativeTime , I ran into this review again, and see that I commented, so I thought I'd report back that I just got me a Chronomaster. I'm pleased as punch. Beyond what I said before, you can set the perpetual calendar (I didn't have to, it was already set correctly, but I did it anyway), which gives you that extra bit of control. More PC than Mac (though I'm a Mac guy). It's not hard to do, and of course you only have to do it once. It’s less feature rich, but I find that it’s a little more mechanical and less electronic appealing.
@Relative Time So far, I like it a lot. I love the design of this one, though a bit less dressy and more tooly on a bracelet might have been more practical, but I'll still wear it as a daily. Here's a picture if you're interested. photos.app.goo.gl/6FYpJjSSBLVatrUq8
Still own it, still like it. I wish it was a tad smaller, but it’s one of my go to quartz watches. Along with my modified Casio Royals. A little pricey, but great watch, well made and fairly comfortable. Accuracy is amazingly good. I haven’t set it since the review, but it’s been spot on. I think the last time I checked it was right after daylight savings kicked in, and it was maybe 1/2 off. For the right price, I highly recommend it.
Nice review as usual. This is actually a very interesting watch. However, It is not something that I would purchase for myself. I basically just do not care enough about any of the features on this. Not a bad watch and the price is fair for what the you are getting, just not for me. I do have a 41mm Automatic Conquest, which I do like. I’m not sure, but I think the case is the same as the Hydoconquest diver, has the same 300m WR. I also did have a Seiko Tuna 300m with the7c46 quartz movement, it has gained less then 2 seconds in almost 3 months. I also really like the design and It’s a full ISO 300m saturation divers rated. The second hand also hits all the markers, which a higher end quartz model should.
Longines has been infamous for poor water resistance. Until the very recent past, most models sported a modest 30 meters of water resistance or none, at all. Thus the main reason I don't own any of their fairly attractive models. Maybe one day when I want a good, cheap watch.
You've defined how review is suppose to be done. You didn't come across as if you were trying to make a sale. I want to point out one thing about the Oceanus. It's my understanding that since they're no longer marked in the U.S.. Any service would require the watch having to be sent back overseas. I wish I could post the article where I read it.
This watch has nothing I usually look for in a watch. It's quartz, it's too big, it shouldn't work for me. But I can't take it off my wrist. I've fallen in love with it. Give this one a chance.
Yes, it's a cool watch, and I do own expensive quartz watches myself. However, quartz watches just don't do it for me. Yea it's accurate to 5 or 10 seconds per year, but still, I would rather have the sweeping seconds hand
Don't think they make them any more but Bulovas Accutron II range has the VHP 262kHz movement in more palatable shapes & sizes. I have a couple, if you can find one you like the look of I'd go for it, hard to beat that 16bps smooth sweep.
I think they stopped making them, but I still have a green Accutron II. It gets confusing, but if I remember right the Accutron II line has a different movement. I think it's basically the precisionist movement, but they remove the extra precision bits (thermoregulation) in order to make it more compact. It's still a higher accurate movement, but I'm not sure it's a "High Accuracy" movement. Where it gets more confusing, is that Bulova also has their 262khz movements that get put into things like the Lunar Pilot and the Curv. Those should still be more accurate, than regular quartz. Yet I don't think those are thermoregulated either. Bulova really should have a chart showing the differences, but I haven't found one yet.
@@RelativeTime I seem to remember when I bought my first one it was rated at +/- 15spy, they both actually run between +0.5 & 1spm so spot on really. I'd love to see that smooth sweep on some other watches but Accutrons now seem to start at £1200. You can still find the odd Accutron II bargain on Ebay but getting rarer now. How much cooler would the Longines be if it ran at 16bps?
Somebody must be buying it - it's currently not available from Longines. The price is not bad, considering all that you get, but it's far from future-proof. (Your grand-kids won't be using it, unless you leave them with a vintage iPhone as well.)
You'd be surprised lol. There's IWCs that are 30m, some "a lange sohne", etc. The list goes on. Also it's 50m not ft. I have the 3 hand version and I had no issues with the WR. I went to the pool and all without problems.
100m would be ideal, but I'm willing to accept that there may be technical limitations on why the couldn't. It's still a little frustrating, but as long as it's a true 50m I think it's fine. I probably wouldn't take it diving, but Id be fine with it in the pool.
Certina offers a titanium-cased GMT watch that is a certified quartz chronometer at around 600 USD or less, so the Longines VHP isn't your only choice for a high-accuracy quartz.
Very nice review. I really enjoyed the ‘devil’s advocate’ approach. Your real world review for those considering this watch, was very valuable indeed. I also like the high production value, incl the audio. Well done. I’m a creative, so I appreciated your saying how the watch face circles looked better at normal distances than in the extreme close up. I’m sure there were technical , erm, complications, during this shoot. I need to shoot my own watches to appreciate that I think. On another but similar subject, recently, I became quite enamoured by a watch I saw online. When I saw it in real life, I could NOT believe it was the same watch! A lot of watches do, but a lot don’t. I know companies want to show their wares in the ‘best’ light, but I prefer more real world photos of watches (which I appreciate in your reviews). I think some photos have the specular highlights muted under a very softly lit light tent with a polarising filter used. Nice as art, but not really indicative of how the watch looks in real life. I wish there was more truth in some of the photos. Of course, it’s best to see the watch in person and to try it on, but it’s not always possible to find it locally. Luckily, I managed to find one locally of this particular watch. Had I bought it online, I would have been very disappointed. It wasn’t that expensive, (under $1000 aud), but that’s not the point. Anyway, rant over.😅 All the best.
High accuracy is an interesting idea. But we have to adjust the date every 60 days. And the time zone every time we travel. And the Daylight Savings Time twice a year.... I have the Bulova Moon Watch. But I am a long distance truck driver 😀... Sometimes I go through TWO Time Zones in one day)) That's why I have a 40 piece watch "collection" - I put on a different piece every time I cross the Time Zone... 🤷🏿♀️
I DEEPLY wish this was available in 39mm case and max of 48mm lug-to-lug... I would buy one soo quickly... I only wish it were solar powered that it had 100m WR - make those changes and I might buy 2!
A solar version of this would be great. Or even a solar version of the Bulova Precisionist. Citizen bought them a few years back, and I've been hoping they would combine that smooth sweep with an Eco-Drive movement.
I mean my seiko Arnie's crown is a digital interface and has 20bar and is a certified diver. That's something that turns me off something from Longines, who ordinarily scores nothing but hits.
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One of the very best and very informative reviews in TH-cam of this Longines VHP watch. The best part is you have shown quite many alternatives high accuracy watch. Seeing the time setting I can summarise that perhaps the best choice would be the 3 handers only. I think every enthusiasts must own a good quartz pieces besides automatics. And if you ask me honestly I think automatics are just a gimmick having a cost occurring issue like servicing. A good quartz watch should also keep on running for generations unless they are $20 quartz movement.
A thoroughly professional and excellent review. As the owner of the non GMT version, this is a brilliant watch. WR is fine, swim shower no problem. It's all in the mind. Of course the anti quartz brigade won't like it. And those used to wearing the Antikythera mechanism on wrist to elivate their internal perceived status.
Shane, this is by far the best watch review I've watched on TH-cam. It was exactly what I needed for this watch as it's a completely new technology from me. It was informational, nuanced, and detailed. You addressed a lot of the points I had in my mind about this watch, which really shows how prepared you were for this. I can definitely make an informed purchase now thanks to you and this video.
Something about the tick on that second hand is just so satisfying and confident.
Very true. It moves with some sort of determination.
But…I can’t help thinking that Eco-Drive does it better 🤷♂️
@@RelativeTime, this for any of your viewers with OCD. Look closely at many of the automatic movements, I can see it tick. They definitely don't sweep. 😉
The Grand Seikos have technology to eliminate that "backlash" of the seconds hand. But it comes at a $ cost.
@@redletterl78 my eco-drive is not satisfying at all, doesn't hit the indices and is off my 0.4sec per day.
Alright so, to make things clear about the battery situation. The hands will jump when the battery is low, that's true. It will go in hibernation mode, and still keep time for 6 months, that's also true. When it comes to replace the battery, it's not more complicated than any other Quartz watch. It uses a renata 380, when you remove the battery, the watch can be left up to 24 hours without one, after that, it needs to go back to Longines. But let's face it here, you just buy the battery ahead of time and that's it. I've done it on mine, zero problems. I have the 3 hander L288. Don't need to make it sound like it's a complicated or difficult thing, because it's not.
That's good to know. Like I said, I didn't find anything saying you can't. Yet I also found a number of other owners who said they just sent it back to longines for about $70.
How long did your battery last before you had to replace it?
@@RelativeTime I purchased mine when it first came out, back April or May of 2017. It started jumping seconds about a month ago and it took me by surprise because I was expecting 5 years. But well, I never used the "hibernation" mode when I wasn't wearing the watch... And I did play a lot with it when I first got it lol. So I just purchased the Renata 380 and did it myself. I did left the watch without a battery for 6 hours to see what would happen lol. But nothing happened haha. I also messed the the hands with a Quartz tester to see what would happen and the watch did readjust itself. Just one thing to note, you'll need a very fine, watchmaker style, flat head screwdriver because the battery has a little cage that holds it in place. Cheers and good work! I love mine
@@El1988Che I'm thinking I read something about if the battery runs out, as long as it is replaced within about 6 months, the perpetual date will stay accurate. More than that and it has to go back to Longines. Does that ring a bell to you?
@@balesjo If it rings a bell? I'm not sure. But that's how the perpetual calendar works on this watch.
Thanks for this info!..the battery issue really put me off.. Think I may go ahead now though..think I may order one of those leather rally's straps with the holes in too..that looks very tasty!
What a wonderful, informative and objective review. You have posed all of the questions that one should consider before pulling the trigger on this watch. You do this all with your Velvet Fog (Mel Torme/old guy reference) voice which makes it all the more fun to hear.
I've had my VHP / GMT for a few years now. It's not my daily watch but it's close. I would say 2nd next to my Damasco DC58. I picked the Conquest, because it is truly a great travel watch. I travel for business frequently and am always jumping from time zone to time zone. Manual, hour jumps are golden if you don't want to use the app, but most important at, train stations or airports it's accurate. Very accurate. This is why I opted for for the quartz movement. It does hold the worlds most accurate watch title, which it shares with citizen. It's clean easy to read comfortable, very well finished and performance is very hard to beat. Longines is all over the EU and North America. I have yet to change the battery, and if I'm at home have no worry of changing it myself, but if I'm traveling don't worry either since you can find a Longines AD almost anywhere. I've never had any water issues with it but I don't use it as a dive watch. I can recommend it to anyone who travels for business or pleasure. It's a great piece you can completely depend on.
love your channel. Really clear and helpful reviews of watches that are mostly accessible for people who don't watch F1 races from private boxes. Thanks for doing this.
Excellent review. Many thanks. I am a commercial airline pilot, flying to most of the globe. This functionality and precision make this a great option. It might not be mechanical, ... but then my mechanical watches are for a different purpose. I am leaning towards the silver dial version. Thanks again.
I got mine for travel purposes in the future but I really want the blue pilot‘s chronograph from IWC when I’m get to my destination. I‘ve been wearing it frequently and it’s very nice!
Another enjoyable review. Also nice to see some quartz watches getting attention. Thanks
Intriguing watch! At the beginning of the video I thought 'meh!' The longer the video took and the more I learned about the watch the more fascinated I became! This is what makes an excellent review! 👏
This watch is a roller coaster. On it's face, it seems like a "perfect" watch and I was really interested before I started learning more. Then I learned about the low WR, no screw down crown, strange interface, typical Swiss anti-customer battery fuckery and the butter fly clasp that literally nobody actually likes. It has an awesome case back!
@@Mister_Phafanapolis You're absolutely right, especially about the battery.
Everyone show me and this channel some love, Shane is a great reviewer and this one is another home run. Thanks Shane!
Thanks!
Movement wise it is a winner. I almost bought this one. Will buy if I get a used one at good price. The reason I did not buy is because it does not have a screw down crown. 100-200m WR would have been great.
You are right, I see these watches sit in stores past 2 years. They look very smart.
You did a great job selling me on this watch. I purchased it and after watching this video I felt informed and happy with my purchase.
I own the 41mm version in white dial, the movement is an engineering marvel. Brilliant in depth review, keep up the good work.
Thanks. I'm actually wearing my blue one right now. I think it's been about a year since i last set it, and it's maybe 0.5 sec off.
I actually own the white dial version and know 3 people personally that own this very blue dial version. Great watch especially the flash functions and I think I only paid about $650 for mine new. Bracelet does have half links for fine tunes adjustment if you haven't noticed.
Thanks man! I’ve been waiting for one of my guys to do some Longines review, particularly the VHP line.
Shane, glad you covered this watch. A great underrated value. I have a casio oceanus which covers the GMT need in my collection, but I do like the HAQ movement here.
This was an excellent review. I usually mind "longer" videos because they are full of unnecessary stuff just to make them longer but this one was spot on. Then I take a look at the upvote count and "only 813"... damn. Well, have a +1 from me. Thanks for the review!
It’s a great watch, extremely well made and executed. After much deliberation I bought a white dial 43mm version yesterday and am very happy with it.
With regards the water resistance; I have an automatic Conquest GMT and it also is 5ATM. No screw down crown and a display case back. It’s 42mm and is considerably thicker than the VHP and much heavier also. Just a point I thought I’d mention for balance.
Oh, and with regards to price, that’s one deciding factor. An authorised dealer selling brand new at 50% off…. £560, I consider it a bargain.
Great review, thanks for the effort you obviously put in. 👍🏻
I work in areas where Bluetooth and wifi are prohibited. I like this.
Longines Switzerland has confirmed in writing that even if you remove the battery for more than 24hrs you will not have any problems resetting the perpatual calendar with the Longines App. Unlike the non-GMT/Flash variant that you will have to send back to Switzerland. I feel this sort of information should have been out there by default by the watch maker and not only when customers make an enquiry.
Pretty neat. Thanks for posting major brand watches off the beaten path.
I literally just got home from purchasing a preowend non gmt version of the VHP and this review was in my recommend list. Got it on a rubber strap with butterfly clasp which actually has 5 micro adjustments, 3 on one side and 2 on the other. Which works perfectly for my wrist size. On the battery replacement, the salesman said that they would do it without it having to send it to Longines unless I wanted to make sure it retained its 50m water resistance. Which will not be an issue since it won't be getting that wet. Having mostly automatics in my collection I wanted to get a precise quartz added in. Looked at Grand Seiko but I found the Longines much more comfortable on wrist, a little thinner and a third of the price of GS. Like you mention in the review pictures don't do the dial justice. Get it in sunlight and it really comes to life. Very simple dial but done very well!
Another great review and really enjoyed your take on the gmt version. Thank you!
Cheers
P.s. still waiting to hear from Helm 🤞
Thanks! Glad you like the review, and hopefully it helped. Which color did you get?
@@RelativeTime I have the black/ gray dial . It's amazing in different light and with the tech behind it should be a no brainer.
Still a keeper for you?
@@wikster6630 Yup, still a keeper. It basically lives on my desk. If I don't feel like winding up anything, it's usually the one I grab.
Great video, as always, Shane! I'm fascinated by the high-accuracy quartz watches. I've been eyeing the Longines non-GMT VHPs, and your video helps confirm that is the route I'd prefer to go down.
Great review Shane. I’ve been curious and your thorough review helped tremendously.
Glad it helped. Am I going to see one on your channel soon?
@@RelativeTime thinking about it bud.
Great Review, I have The automatic 45 mm Hydro conquest, tough watch.
Shane, I want to thank you for reminding me of the good ol’ days with Palm Pilots and the syncing dances we had to do. I’m especially fond of the times when I’d inadvertently move my hand, thereby breaking the link mid-sync and having to start over. Good times!
Good Times indeed. Had my fair share of Palms and Handspring PDAs over the years. A buddy of mine even had the Qualcom PDQ, the first Palm Cell Phone. It was so cool at the time, but man that thing was so buggy he could barely use it.
Just bought the silver dial-43mm one, your review was one of the reasons that helped decide my purchase. Answered a lot of questions about the watch. Looking forward to this addition to my collection. Thank you and cheers!
I have a silver dial conquest quartz as my “1 watch collection “ watch as it really can adapt to anything. 300m wr, simply classy look….. I use it from casual to dress- even on a worksite at times.
May upgrade to non gmt vhp one day.
Also have a vintage Longines for true dress watch.
Big fan of your channel and the brand and it’s nice to see something outside of their heritage line get some attention.
Take care!
Shane always gets the watches that must be super hard for him to film lol! As always, great review mate! Cheers from Bengaluru India 🙏🇮🇳
This dial looks so much better than some of those others where it looks like you are staring into a black hole instead of a dial lol
I like certain Longines models - the Conquest and Hydro-Conquest in particular. I own homages to both (the Cadisen shown early in the video and the Phylida of the other) and as a result the gorgeous blue variant of the Hydro-Conquest is definitely on my must get list. Nothing wrong with a GOOD quartz watch Bulova Lunar Pilot is also VERY high on my to get list as is the Bulova Curv.
I've had a longines quartz watch since 2002. So under rated. So good and bargain . Forget the overpriced Rolex. Over 20 years is amazing still accurate and only 3 battery changes.
Agree with what you said about Rolex. I took my in for a minor service took 8 months to get back. If you have any issues you can’t deal with Rolex have to deal with the authorized retailer.
I have both automatic and quartz watches in my collection. I always have a laugh when "enthusiasts" criticize quartz pieces. My Grand Seiko, Sinn, and Marine Master more than surpassed my expectations. Though I like the look of this Longines, I just don't have a need for its many functions. I tend to make purchases based on my needs. Anyway, Shane, another great review.
I too laugh. I give wrist time to both my Timex watches as well as my Laco and everything in between. Sometimes I even throw on my later dads Seiko Quartz LC Chronograph digital watch which I’ve always kept running since he passed away.
“Enthusiasts” seem to lack one thing when it comes to enthusiasm for watches. They don’t appreciate all watches for what they are. Maybe not MVMT. 🤣 but even then, agree or not, they have helped bring watches to vogue in a world where smart watches were said to spell the demise of our regular old fashioned mechanical, automatic and quartz watches.
@@whatsstefon Recently had quite the row with an idiotic _watch idiot savant_ that refused to accept/admit that quartz watches are objectively superior time telling tools than mechanical watches. We all _like_ the sweep of a mechanical watch but quartz are more magnitudes accurate and cheaper to install and cheaper to maintain.
@@Mister_Phafanapolis hilarious. I mean, come on. You can enjoy your nice mechanical, but you can also enjoy a quartz watch. Each have their benefits and downfalls. But I guess some folks assume that quartz means inferior or fake.
No one seems to despise Eco-Drive, Grand Seiko, or some of the higher end brands like Omega and Longines with their quartz GMT VHP models and such. Not to mention the mecaquartz movements that have the sweeping seconds hand along with accuracy.
Perhaps when they think of quartz, they think of the Casio knockoff they owned as a child that was given to them from out of a bubble gum machine. It can be challenging shaking off that kind of negative association to some.
Each to their own. I always say wear what brings you the most joy. I bought a G Shock last year to see what all the hype was about. As a man in his 40s, I felt like I needed to get my old GI Joe action figures out and go play outside. Apart from the quartz accuracy, the watch was a poor execution of a timepiece. The blue hands against a black watch was difficult to read. The light was a joke that didn’t even have enough oomph to illuminate anything. The Timezone adjustments were so complicated to get through, not to mention the physical size of the watch essentially being a magnet for bumping into everything.
I sold it. My ordinary Timex Expedition did what I needed to do. The Casio went to a G Shock fanatic. So the outcome is perfect. They now have another watch they love, I have a watch I love. Everyone’s a winner!
Just because someone likes the G Shock doesn’t make them ones enemy. Their watch choice isn’t a personal attack. But a lot of folks will fight nail and tooth over telling you you’re wrong instead of appreciating your reasons for a watch, no matter if it came from a bubble gum machine or some artisan from the Swiss alps delivered to you on a herons beak, encased in a Faberge egg.
@@whatsstefon, the irony here is that many of the critics of quartz incessantly praise their low end automatic movements. I agree with you, I have a Grand Seiko, Sinn, and a Marine Master that I swear by. 👍😉
My thoughts about the GMT version, the 3-hand Conquest MHP is a bit simpler. Otherwise, a lot of the functions are there to conserve battery life if watch isn't being worn, or to maintain accurate time if it experiences a strong magnetic field or a hard knock. Otherwise, once set you generally don't have to do anything.
What a great review, thanks. I have my eye on this watch, and this review gives the + and - of this thing really well.
Great watch. Longines knows how to do it. Good for them
Fantastic review for a great travel watch! I have the black faced version and my second hand is spot on. I am very happy with mine.
This is an excellent inexpensive quality, very accurate watch, for those with OCD.
Very polite and clean voice. Very good review thoughts. I could've taken a 10% faster speech (but others might not) but still, very good vid
This was a really nice review, great job!
Thanks a ton!
Great review 👍 . A fascinating watch, it makes me wonder how development would have gone if most buyers of high value watches weren't so keen on mechanical movements.
I love mine. The higher accuracy and perpetual calendar are fantastic. The watch looks great and the price is not that high for what you get. I do own a handful of good mechanical watches, and they have their place but this is one of my favorites
Great review as always Shane. Love the watch, and I agree, the 50M of WR is ridiculous... The functionality of the app is a definite concern and would preclude me from buying it. Time to do a state of the collection video!
2:24 Wow, this (crab? spider?) shot took me by surprise! Nice one mate! Very nice indeed!
I have two of these. Because of the accuracy. It's only downfall is the 50 meters. Every good watch should be 100 meters minimum. Caveat: when programming the GMT with the phone application, make sure the room is dark enough. I thought mine was broken when new, because even holding the phone led right over the watch didn't work until I turned the overhead light off.
I really love mine. I have the carbon fiber with rubber strap. It’s great to travel with.
Nice looking and operating GMT. Lug to lug is a little long for my taste. I'd have to try it on. Good vid. Keep at it!
Very attractive and well engineered (?) watch. Thank you.
Thanks for highlighting this somewhat niche time piece. I agree that there are many ways to skin a cat but Longine’s decision to mix old with new tech is definitely interesting. Maybe even odd. That being said, I think it is a understated watch that would attract a certain kind of person.
I wish I had seen this video before my most recent purchase. It’s a Citizen EcoDrive with perpetual calender. I’ll let you know how it goes with the set up.
Yah let me know. I think there are a few videos on how to do it if you have trouble. I gave the one I reviewed a long time ago to my father-in-law. He has a hard time figuring it out, so twice a year he bring it by so that I can change the time for day light savings.
Fantastic review. I’ve got several mechanical watches and was after a high quality quartz and a gmt to complete my collection and this ticks both boxes. Got it 20% off rrp. It arrives tomorrow👍🤙
Beautiful watch. Superb review. Thank you 🙏
Own this watch and LOVE it! It’s fine for swimming, so who cares about 50m?
Hi Shane, thanks for the great videos! On the VHP GMT, when you're setting the local time manually by pulling the crown: 1-does the travel time also change like a mechanical GMT watch would do or can you adjust both independantly from each other? 2-The seconds hand moves to 12, but does the time continue to move so the seconds hand goes back to where it should be when you push the crown back in or is it equivalent to hacking the movement ?
Thank you very much for your time, cheers!
Great video! Let's assume that the perpetual calendar is incorrect. Would the flashing correct the perpetual calendar as well or just the time?
Thank you! This was an excellent review.
Great shots!
Thanks!
Thanks for the review Shane of a great looking watch, as for the battery situation, simple solution "Solar" I've got the Casio Oceanus 100 can't think of a better watch for the price, thanks again ...stay safe
I bought the 41 mm version with the white dial a year ago. I bought with a ss bracelet and then added the original black rubber strap. Used both and ended up liking the rubber more: comfortable, versatile, looks both sporty and dressy. Overall I love the watch very much. Since I have about 30 watches from $50 to $20,000, I use this one mostly for traveling. The ideal watch for traveling as it suites any situation. Despite pandemic, managed to visit Croatia, Greece, Morocco, Brazil, Spain, Turkey and Georgia. Brazil was the only country to which I did not dare to take the Longines.
Great review, something different I own a Casio Oceanus 100 which in my opinion is perhaps the best value and is really a set it and forget it. i look forward to you're review and yes the lume isn't great but at 83 grams I hardly notice it
I have the three hand Conquest VHP and I can confidently confirm it is not accurate to +/- 5 seconds per year. Mine gains about 1 second every two weeks. But, I do not wear very often, and I think it may keep better time if it is worn as the body temperature is relatively consistent.
I find it a very nicely made, if a little heavy and bulky, watch. Also, the bracelet pins are of the push out type instead of screw in pins.
Interesting watch, not sure if it’s going to be on my list shame it didn’t have a. Meca quartz movement the there would be no issues with the second hand alignment
Virgin Longines Conquest for 1000USD with 50m WR which has to be sent back for battery change
Vs
Chad Casio World Time for 20USD with 100m and literally every and anybody with a screwdriver can change the battery
Well, no you don't have to send it to Longines. I did it on mine (3 hander). And I also paid 650 for lol
Many good points made. I would add I don't like the home plane icons being directly on the dial.
I almost ordered the non-GMT version because of that.
With only a 2 position smart crown, you cannot manually set the date. The flash app is hit or miss because it is finicky about lighting. Once set, I love it. But was close to dropping $1000+ under a hammer then the trash. Just changed the battery for the first time. Took an hour to get the flash app to work.
I didn't think about the date. Maybe it's like a true GMT where you can only advance it by advancing the hour? I'll have to check with mine.
Coincidentally, I had to recently changed the battery in mine too. Wasn't quite as bad as I thought. Flash app still won't work on my phone, but luckily it still works somewhat reliably on my iPad.
Like you said, once set and working fine I love it. But I do worry about the future with it. I love that it automatically updates for daylight savings. Yet with talk of ending it here in the US, I wonder if that's going to become a problem where it still thinks it's going on.
Great concept, I just wish longines would follow through making the app better and keeping it updated.
I just got mine 2 months ago but not gmt version. My second hand doesn't hit the markers too. Its like 1/4 off from marker 6 o'clock to marker 11 o'clock but the rest is perfect. So sad haha
That is really sad to read on such a reputable brand. I expect this sort of lack of quality from my Seiko or my Timex.
@@whatsstefon yeah me too 😭
I have the non-GMT version of this watch at the top of my wish list, with the blue dial (the red accents really set it off). My biggest concern is the size. I have a wrist on the smaller size. Have an Orient watch at 40.5mm and while a bit large, the size grew on me so the 41mm should be ok. But I'm concerned with what you said about the crown and crown guard taking it up closer to 45mm. I'm definitely looking for a good return policy! Anyway, I love my automatic watches but this Longines has technology and looks that are really calling to me and it is the only one that would make me consider a costlier quartz watch (thought nowhere near say, and Omega or a Grand Seiko quartz, even pre-owned.
I have 2 HAQ Certina watches. Great watches. They vary by less than 1 second per month. O ya, and both together didn't cost $1300
I like your review of this watch much more than I like the watch itself. Nice one!
PS Your strap game is on a whole other level.
please keep helping us find HAQ watches!
Excellent review.
I've seen these used as low as $500 occasionally. I really want a blue conquest in 41 and this is the only version I can find under a grand.
nice watch really like it.... £1200 here in uk cheers
Certina Precidrive another generally affordable high accuracy quartz.
True. I just checked out the Certina Podium Precidrive 40mm (they offer a number of sizes with 40mm the smallest). They do list it as COSC certified with water resistance to 100mm. As of yet, descriptions of the Precidrive sounds like it's not quite as sophisticated technologically as the Longines, but it does have it's benefits in size, water resistance, crown guard curved and crown appears not to project as much as the Conquest MHP. Shopping around, it does appear this watch can be found at lower prices than the Longines. It's reported to be accurate within 10 seconds per year (0.07 seconds per month).
Longines Quartz VHP/GMT or Omega Aqua Terra or Citizen eco-drive, radio controlled, 'Atomic' Perpetual?
Very interesting, a solid maybe.........
As usual it is the butterfly clasp that stops me from getting a Longines. Since you have used the „engineer bracelet“ in the past and I have put it on some watches already: do you think it would be a good match?
Not my cup of tea, but very good and detailed review. Thanks!
Great review...
Thanks!
I considered Grand Seiko HAQ, I considered this, but now I'm after a Citizen Chronomaster. They're also accurate to 5 seconds a day, and have have perpetual calendars, but they're also solar, so no worries about battery changes. And they have near Grand Seiko level fit and finish. No GMT, though. And they're JDM only, so rare as hen's teeth in the US.
There is also the new Citizen Caliber 100, which I think is accurate to within a second a year. Crazy cool technology, but I think they are going for about $7k right now. How much is the chornomaster.
Chronomasters run about $2,000-$3,000 or so, depending. Price is a bit hard to say, since you have to buy gray market from Japan. The Caliber 0100 doesn't have a (perpetual) calendar, so the Chronomaster is more fun. And the Chronomaster comes in a number designs, which I think are more attractive.
@@RelativeTime , I ran into this review again, and see that I commented, so I thought I'd report back that I just got me a Chronomaster. I'm pleased as punch. Beyond what I said before, you can set the perpetual calendar (I didn't have to, it was already set correctly, but I did it anyway), which gives you that extra bit of control. More PC than Mac (though I'm a Mac guy). It's not hard to do, and of course you only have to do it once. It’s less feature rich, but I find that it’s a little more mechanical and less electronic appealing.
@@WeibenWang good to hear. How are you liking it?
@Relative Time So far, I like it a lot. I love the design of this one, though a bit less dressy and more tooly on a bracelet might have been more practical, but I'll still wear it as a daily. Here's a picture if you're interested.
photos.app.goo.gl/6FYpJjSSBLVatrUq8
Shane, do you still own the Conquest GMT? I'm thinking about getting one for myself. What is/was your long term experience with this watch?
Still own it, still like it. I wish it was a tad smaller, but it’s one of my go to quartz watches. Along with my modified Casio Royals.
A little pricey, but great watch, well made and fairly comfortable. Accuracy is amazingly good. I haven’t set it since the review, but it’s been spot on. I think the last time I checked it was right after daylight savings kicked in, and it was maybe 1/2 off.
For the right price, I highly recommend it.
Nice review as usual.
This is actually a very interesting watch. However, It is not something that I would purchase for myself.
I basically just do not care enough about any of the features on this. Not a bad watch and the price is fair for what the you are getting, just not for me.
I do have a 41mm Automatic Conquest, which I do like. I’m not sure, but I think the case is the same as the Hydoconquest diver, has the same 300m WR.
I also did have a Seiko Tuna 300m with the7c46 quartz movement, it has gained less then 2 seconds in almost 3 months. I also really like the design and It’s a full ISO 300m saturation divers rated. The second hand also hits all the markers, which a higher end quartz model should.
Longines has been infamous for poor water resistance. Until the very recent past, most models sported a modest 30 meters of water resistance or none, at all. Thus the main reason I don't own any of their fairly attractive models. Maybe one day when I want a good, cheap watch.
Great looking watch...
I saw a $100k automatic watch that mimicked the quartz tick. Why?
That's odd, which one was that?
@@RelativeTime pretty sure it was Montblanc on Bond St
I looked and couldn't find but now sure it was Montblanc and I was at the airport. So probably the Montblanc store.
jlc true second
You've defined how review is suppose to be done. You didn't come across as if you were trying to make a sale. I want to point out one thing about the Oceanus. It's my understanding that since they're no longer marked in the U.S.. Any service would require the watch having to be sent back overseas. I wish I could post the article where I read it.
This watch has nothing I usually look for in a watch. It's quartz, it's too big, it shouldn't work for me. But I can't take it off my wrist. I've fallen in love with it. Give this one a chance.
I've come to really love this one. It's so accurate it's crazy. I think it's gained a second since I did this review a couple years ago.
Can the gmt and hours be adjusted without the app? I do want one but am fearful support will eventually drop off and being left with a paper weight
Yes, it's a cool watch, and I do own expensive quartz watches myself. However, quartz watches just don't do it for me. Yea it's accurate to 5 or 10 seconds per year, but still, I would rather have the sweeping seconds hand
Don't think they make them any more but Bulovas Accutron II range has the VHP 262kHz movement in more palatable shapes & sizes. I have a couple, if you can find one you like the look of I'd go for it, hard to beat that 16bps smooth sweep.
I think they stopped making them, but I still have a green Accutron II. It gets confusing, but if I remember right the Accutron II line has a different movement. I think it's basically the precisionist movement, but they remove the extra precision bits (thermoregulation) in order to make it more compact. It's still a higher accurate movement, but I'm not sure it's a "High Accuracy" movement.
Where it gets more confusing, is that Bulova also has their 262khz movements that get put into things like the Lunar Pilot and the Curv. Those should still be more accurate, than regular quartz. Yet I don't think those are thermoregulated either.
Bulova really should have a chart showing the differences, but I haven't found one yet.
@@RelativeTime I seem to remember when I bought my first one it was rated at +/- 15spy, they both actually run between +0.5 & 1spm so spot on really. I'd love to see that smooth sweep on some other watches but Accutrons now seem to start at £1200. You can still find the odd Accutron II bargain on Ebay but getting rarer now. How much cooler would the Longines be if it ran at 16bps?
@@piquetuk I think a lot more people would want one if it had that.
Somebody must be buying it - it's currently not available from Longines. The price is not bad, considering all that you get, but it's far from future-proof. (Your grand-kids won't be using it, unless you leave them with a vintage iPhone as well.)
excellent review
Thanks! It's a great watch too, but I think Longines has discontinued it. Also, as I feared, they haven't updated their app for a bit.
Very cool watch.
It's pretty. Can't wrap my mind around a $1k+ watch that only has 50 ft water resist.
You'd be surprised lol. There's IWCs that are 30m, some "a lange sohne", etc. The list goes on. Also it's 50m not ft. I have the 3 hand version and I had no issues with the WR. I went to the pool and all without problems.
100m would be ideal, but I'm willing to accept that there may be technical limitations on why the couldn't. It's still a little frustrating, but as long as it's a true 50m I think it's fine. I probably wouldn't take it diving, but Id be fine with it in the pool.
Certina offers a titanium-cased GMT watch that is a certified quartz chronometer at around 600 USD or less, so the Longines VHP isn't your only choice for a high-accuracy quartz.
Very nice review. I really enjoyed the ‘devil’s advocate’ approach. Your real world review for those considering this watch, was very valuable indeed. I also like the high production value, incl the audio. Well done. I’m a creative, so I appreciated your saying how the watch face circles looked better at normal distances than in the extreme close up. I’m sure there were technical , erm, complications, during this shoot. I need to shoot my own watches to appreciate that I think. On another but similar subject, recently, I became quite enamoured by a watch I saw online. When I saw it in real life, I could NOT believe it was the same watch! A lot of watches do, but a lot don’t. I know companies want to show their wares in the ‘best’ light, but I prefer more real world photos of watches (which I appreciate in your reviews). I think some photos have the specular highlights muted under a very softly lit light tent with a polarising filter used. Nice as art, but not really indicative of how the watch looks in real life. I wish there was more truth in some of the photos. Of course, it’s best to see the watch in person and to try it on, but it’s not always possible to find it locally. Luckily, I managed to find one locally of this particular watch. Had I bought it online, I would have been very disappointed. It wasn’t that expensive, (under $1000 aud), but that’s not the point. Anyway, rant over.😅 All the best.
This is the case shape that Longines should have given to the regular Conquest line oddly automatic but looks like a quartz.
High accuracy is an interesting idea.
But we have to adjust the date every 60 days.
And the time zone every time we travel.
And the Daylight Savings Time twice a year....
I have the Bulova Moon Watch. But I am a long distance truck driver 😀... Sometimes I go through TWO Time Zones in one day))
That's why I have a 40 piece watch "collection" - I put on a different piece every time I cross the Time Zone... 🤷🏿♀️
Why do you have to adjust the date every 60 days?
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Because every other month is 30 days. Am I missing something? Does this watch keep track of 30 - 31 day months?
@@RickDeckardMemories yes. It’s a perpetual calendar.
I DEEPLY wish this was available in 39mm case and max of 48mm lug-to-lug... I would buy one soo quickly... I only wish it were solar powered that it had 100m WR - make those changes and I might buy 2!
A solar version of this would be great. Or even a solar version of the Bulova Precisionist. Citizen bought them a few years back, and I've been hoping they would combine that smooth sweep with an Eco-Drive movement.
The 3 hands version (not GMT) is available in 36mm.
I mean my seiko Arnie's crown is a digital interface and has 20bar and is a certified diver.
That's something that turns me off something from Longines, who ordinarily scores nothing but hits.
Nice job