It was unfortunately a compromise to get climbing into the Olympic Games but it's better than nothing I'd say. I'm holding out hope that in the future for 2024 it'll be split up but we'll certainly see what happens.
It is all one because it's sort of a trial run to see how it works and what viewers think. From my understanding once it's out of the trial phase it'll be 3 different events.
I'm sure it will evolve in the future very quickly in the olympics. I could easily see it go the route of gymnastics and track and field with separate and all-around competitions as well as individual and team competitions. Heck, you might even see disciplines added like some sort of relay or something. My point being that it is in its infancy as far as the olympics, but the sky is the limit on where it can go.
Such a shame they are together. Someone like Ashima or Puccio who are great at lead and bouldering, can’t really benefit from speed climbing. I hope they don’t do it like knockouts rounds and the top speed climbers go to the next one. Such a shame
It's not sequential knockout rounds. You get combined score from your placing in each discipline. What will actually happen is the best speed climbers will fail in early rounds because they'll score badly in lead and bouldering, all the qualifiers for the later rounds will be the best lead and boulderers and they just won't post very good speed times. It's a really stupid format. The whole reason speed is included is because the olympics is mostly about generating ad revenue and they believe speed climbing is more exciting as a spectator sport, but the way they have the format the speed climbing on offer will actually be lower standard than typical pro level because the only people who will make it through rounds will be lead and boulderers.
@@stethoscanomaly I remember thinking this way too when I first heard about the format. After watching the World Championships I have changed my opinion. The podium for males consisted of a speed climber, lead climber and boulderer. That speed climber never finished last in any of the events in qualifying or the finals. Furthermore, he beat lead and boulder specialists in their own sport in each round. So much for the idea that speed climbers aren't climbers. They are climbers who just happen to be exceptionally good at the speed route.
It's the first time they have climbing in the Olympics. From what I heard they could not had 2 more medals, they could only have 1 medal in this sport so they had to combined the disciplines
Awesome. I wanna see my boy Alex Megos kill it. Although I hope its like gymnastics where you can get a medal for the individual discipline, and a medal for the all around if you qualify.
I do not believe that a lot of the "stars" from now like megos, ondra, hojer will appear there because of the speed climbing...most of the are to specialised already to take speed climbing also into their repertoire and most likely will not come to a competition they simply can not win :( I don't get it anyway why they took speed climbing in. It's not an attractive sport imho
I'm glad to say that in the climbing world champs going on right now, Jan Hojer (GER), Tomoa Narasaki (JPN), Adam Ondra (CZE), Jakob Schubert (AUT), Kokoro Fuji (JPN), and Kai Harada (JPN) are all competing in the combined finals. Jan, Adam, Jakob, previously exclusive lead/boulderers have taken on speed with gusto and are getting REALLY into it. Not to mention, other big climbers: Mickael Mawem (FRA), Sean McColl (CAN), Manu Cornu (FRA), Alex Megos (GER), Jernej Kruder (SLO), are definitely all competitors who are more than capable of competing in all three disciplines, but could not qualify for the combined world champs. Furthermore, for the women's combined, it's: Petra Klingler (SUI), Janja Garnbret (SLO), Miho Nonaka(JPN), Akiyo Noguchi (JPN), Jessy Pilz (AUT), and Sa Sol (KOR). All these women are either exclusive lead/boldurers who have gotten into speed. Not to mention, more women are getting into speed as well. Stasa Gejo (SRB), Alex Puccio (USA) for eg. I think more recently, there's been an increase in participation and respect for speed, with more previously exclusive lead/boulder athletes getting into it and really giving it a go due to the decision made for the Olympics. We can all agree that the previous names mentioned are all "big names" of the sport, and they all have a shot at medalling for the combined format. Not to mention, it's not the first time combined competitions have been a thing. It has been considered in the world champs 2016, 2014, 2012. I was like you when I first heard that it's gonna be a combined format for the olympics, and with so many changes to climbing rules and vernacular, it's kind of scary, yet also interesting, to see the ways the sport is going to change and evolve throughout the years in these competitions.
@@monsta6501 Thats not the point I'm saying that they shouldn't combine them but instead choose one or have them all separately. Would you like to see Olympic committee eliminate 100m sprint and 1500m and only offer them together as one event
@@kallemaki-hokkonen4850 Or they could do it like in Gymnastics where they have 4 events. 3 for each individual skill event and 1 incorporating all 3, like the all-around in gymnastics.
Certainly all looking good now. All the athletes that are looking for a place in 2020 are training well across all 3 disciplines. I think in general climbers like climbing and like challenges. Currently most countries athletes are constantly placing PB in speed as they take on a new challenge. With only 2 golds available it was really the only choice to be all inclusive.
Well think of it like a triathalon or pentathalon. They need to know how to properly long jump, triple jump, polevault, high jump and whatever else they do. every one of those is different and a different ability.
How do you along with the 90 likes find humor something you believe will be a disaster? Strong hater vibes from you. And is it so much to ask climbers to train in all 3 cuz god forbid its too difficult for them to practice and learn over time so they can truly judge a climbers ability objectively?
The fak this is like tellling the sprint runner and marathon runner that there will be one gold metal for running that will be given to the best overall running in both sports. That just ain't how this works!
@@LexLuxray let's get rid of the prestigious 100m sprint event and just add it to decathlon then. Get rid of every running event and put it all in one. While we are at it lets make one cycling event with BMX freestyle & racing, road cycling and mountain biking. Go across the board and group all disciplines into a combined event. Decalthons and triathlons are impressive, but the sports in those events also have SEPARATE events as well.
I don´t see the problem in combined disciplines. lead climbing will be the middle ground for speed climbers and boulderers. Both are used to intense rather short power bursts compared to lead climbing. In lead climbing it will show how the climbers are able to combine their knowledge of technique and power management. The only thing I would like to see more are older climbers of 30 upwards. I don´t like the children dominated Olympics. Climbing embraces all ages. It´s the wrong message.
It's a really stupid format. The whole reason speed is included is because the olympics is mostly about generating ad revenue and they believe speed climbing is more exciting as a spectator sport, but the way they have the format the speed climbing on offer will actually be lower standard than typical pro level because the only people who will make it through the rounds will be lead and boulderers.
Additionally, even to non-climbers, bouldering is going to be way more interesting to watch than speed. Speed will probably be a novel experience for the first few rounds but I can't imagine it getting as much love as bouldering or even lead.
This is going to let everyone down. “Non-climbers” would love to watch speed climbing because its easy to understand and appreciate. Climbers love watching bouldering and lead for the minute difficulties and complexities that go into it. Non-climbers are going to find that harder to appreciate and I imagine they’d be pretty bored by it. Lumping all of the events together is perhaps a foot in the door Olympics-wise, but it certainly will not be memorable with how the events, scoring, and results go. But I feel like it is a dyno in the right direction- albeit an awkward one.
I think that clumping them together is the major mistake. Having elite speed climbers is much more entertaining for the general audience because if you watch those competitions what they do seems unnatural. Seeing a sprinter or a swimmer go extremely fast is cool and all, but if you watch those competitions it genuinely looks fake. I normally stick to bouldering but I've tried speed climbing and I can say that sport/bouldering climbers will look like fish out of water in an Olympic caliber event. As for bouldering I think it would also be entertaining for general audiences. They would probably have the setters set really dynamic and/or shouldery moves (which to be fair is what most climbing comps are doing) because bouldering allows for incredible highlights that could be used. The use of endurance focused sport climbers or speed climbers will dilute the appeal. I do think sport climbing should be left out for climbings first run because it doesn't have the same entertainment value, however I think that it could be brought in later Olympics. Climbing would best be implemented similarly to snowboarding was where new variations were introduced as more and more attention was brought to it. The key difference is that rock climbing is unlike anything most people have ever seen, so using speed and bouldering which have the most unbelievable feats of athleticism would allow climbing to become a popular event in the Olympics.
janja will win lead and bouldering so she will probably get gold if she can even slightly speed climb.... men will be difficult to pick a winner probably one of the Japanese men... they just should have done speed separate at the very least.
@Leonis Krigorian Adam ondra is probably better at lead than he is at boulder... he's more likely to finsh first in lead than bouldering I also seen he is doing 7 second speed climbs which is Very good for a none speed climbers so probably the favourite.... Janja tho I would probably put my house on getting gold she's number one boulder and top 2 lead... There is a Korean girl who's name I can't remember at this moment who pushes her in lead but combined it's not much of a contest she's number one after winning gold I hope she sets the hardest ever outdoor route maybe a 9b or 9b+
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Such a shame it's combined :( Bouldering, lead and speed are 3 very different sports!
It was unfortunately a compromise to get climbing into the Olympic Games but it's better than nothing I'd say. I'm holding out hope that in the future for 2024 it'll be split up but we'll certainly see what happens.
It is all one because it's sort of a trial run to see how it works and what viewers think. From my understanding once it's out of the trial phase it'll be 3 different events.
yeah, its like you have to be good at sprinting, a marathon, and the high jump
@@aaronm8143 sweet
I'm sure it will evolve in the future very quickly in the olympics. I could easily see it go the route of gymnastics and track and field with separate and all-around competitions as well as individual and team competitions. Heck, you might even see disciplines added like some sort of relay or something. My point being that it is in its infancy as far as the olympics, but the sky is the limit on where it can go.
I didn't even know climbing competitions were a thing. I can't wait to watch this in 2020!
Lmao
@@velocitymaz5084 This did not age well at all
Lol
This aged well
You might not be able to watch it even in 2021....
This sport is going to be very popular in the coming years.
Such a shame they are together. Someone like Ashima or Puccio who are great at lead and bouldering, can’t really benefit from speed climbing. I hope they don’t do it like knockouts rounds and the top speed climbers go to the next one. Such a shame
It's not sequential knockout rounds. You get combined score from your placing in each discipline. What will actually happen is the best speed climbers will fail in early rounds because they'll score badly in lead and bouldering, all the qualifiers for the later rounds will be the best lead and boulderers and they just won't post very good speed times. It's a really stupid format. The whole reason speed is included is because the olympics is mostly about generating ad revenue and they believe speed climbing is more exciting as a spectator sport, but the way they have the format the speed climbing on offer will actually be lower standard than typical pro level because the only people who will make it through rounds will be lead and boulderers.
@@stethoscanomaly I remember thinking this way too when I first heard about the format. After watching the World Championships I have changed my opinion. The podium for males consisted of a speed climber, lead climber and boulderer. That speed climber never finished last in any of the events in qualifying or the finals. Furthermore, he beat lead and boulder specialists in their own sport in each round. So much for the idea that speed climbers aren't climbers. They are climbers who just happen to be exceptionally good at the speed route.
It's the first time they have climbing in the Olympics. From what I heard they could not had 2 more medals, they could only have 1 medal in this sport so they had to combined the disciplines
well...
Awesome. I wanna see my boy Alex Megos kill it. Although I hope its like gymnastics where you can get a medal for the individual discipline, and a medal for the all around if you qualify.
no there is only one medal for combined. Which means:
Speed, Bouldern and Lead
I do not believe that a lot of the "stars" from now like megos, ondra, hojer will appear there because of the speed climbing...most of the are to specialised already to take speed climbing also into their repertoire and most likely will not come to a competition they simply can not win :( I don't get it anyway why they took speed climbing in. It's not an attractive sport imho
I'm glad to say that in the climbing world champs going on right now, Jan Hojer (GER), Tomoa Narasaki (JPN), Adam Ondra (CZE), Jakob Schubert (AUT), Kokoro Fuji (JPN), and Kai Harada (JPN) are all competing in the combined finals. Jan, Adam, Jakob, previously exclusive lead/boulderers have taken on speed with gusto and are getting REALLY into it. Not to mention, other big climbers: Mickael Mawem (FRA), Sean McColl (CAN), Manu Cornu (FRA), Alex Megos (GER), Jernej Kruder (SLO), are definitely all competitors who are more than capable of competing in all three disciplines, but could not qualify for the combined world champs.
Furthermore, for the women's combined, it's: Petra Klingler (SUI), Janja Garnbret (SLO), Miho Nonaka(JPN), Akiyo Noguchi (JPN), Jessy Pilz (AUT), and Sa Sol (KOR). All these women are either exclusive lead/boldurers who have gotten into speed. Not to mention, more women are getting into speed as well. Stasa Gejo (SRB), Alex Puccio (USA) for eg.
I think more recently, there's been an increase in participation and respect for speed, with more previously exclusive lead/boulder athletes getting into it and really giving it a go due to the decision made for the Olympics.
We can all agree that the previous names mentioned are all "big names" of the sport, and they all have a shot at medalling for the combined format. Not to mention, it's not the first time combined competitions have been a thing. It has been considered in the world champs 2016, 2014, 2012.
I was like you when I first heard that it's gonna be a combined format for the olympics, and with so many changes to climbing rules and vernacular, it's kind of scary, yet also interesting, to see the ways the sport is going to change and evolve throughout the years in these competitions.
@@twifanly yeah but poor speed climbers which doesnt stand a chance in this format.
I like Alex but I also like Adam . . I'm torn.
I agree with everything except for the speed climbing portion it is like making usain bolt run the 400 meter race.
Then maybe Usain Bolt should start training his 400m race...
@@monsta6501 the stupidest comment I've seen this week.
It's like combining 100m, 400m and 1500m running events...
Then maybe start training in all 3?
@@monsta6501 Thats not the point I'm saying that they shouldn't combine them but instead choose one or have them all separately. Would you like to see Olympic committee eliminate 100m sprint and 1500m and only offer them together as one event
@@kallemaki-hokkonen4850 Or they could do it like in Gymnastics where they have 4 events. 3 for each individual skill event and 1 incorporating all 3, like the all-around in gymnastics.
@@monsta6501 that would be nice but climbing isn't that big of a sport so its not going to get 4 events
Can't wait to see Tomoa ❤
You guys are combining different types of climbing? This is going to be a disaster hahaha. It's like combing figure skating and speed skating.
Certainly all looking good now. All the athletes that are looking for a place in 2020 are training well across all 3 disciplines. I think in general climbers like climbing and like challenges. Currently most countries athletes are constantly placing PB in speed as they take on a new challenge. With only 2 golds available it was really the only choice to be all inclusive.
Well think of it like a triathalon or pentathalon. They need to know how to properly long jump, triple jump, polevault, high jump and whatever else they do. every one of those is different and a different ability.
How do you along with the 90 likes find humor something you believe will be a disaster? Strong hater vibes from you. And is it so much to ask climbers to train in all 3 cuz god forbid its too difficult for them to practice and learn over time so they can truly judge a climbers ability objectively?
No?
Few people who couldnt have made to olympics will be there. Let it be mix. Be happy for them.
I'm super excited fpr sport climbing to be in the 2020 Olympics! I wish competitive wushu were an Olympic sport too though
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Combined?? My dude that is not a very good idea. Bouldering, lead climbing and speed all have their different aspects and areas of focus
Ethan Lee pentathletes seem to manage just fine
Then maybe climbers should start practicing and training those different aspects and areas of focus so they are prepared for the combined system.
This is a sport that is also famous in Indonesia, in the international championship, Indonesia once won two gold, and Indonesians really like to climb
Cool! I can't wait to watch it!
The fak this is like tellling the sprint runner and marathon runner that there will be one gold metal for running that will be given to the best overall running in both sports. That just ain't how this works!
Wait until you hear about decathlon
@@LexLuxray let's get rid of the prestigious 100m sprint event and just add it to decathlon then. Get rid of every running event and put it all in one. While we are at it lets make one cycling event with BMX freestyle & racing, road cycling and mountain biking. Go across the board and group all disciplines into a combined event.
Decalthons and triathlons are impressive, but the sports in those events also have SEPARATE events as well.
True but same time its a start. Hopefully in the next couple Olympics they realize this and split them up
@@pablonescafebar6043 100m is in decathlon so your comment automatically has no merit
I am so pumped I want to be there
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I wish i knew this was an actual sport when I was younger. I took down a 40 foot wall when I was 11.
Still upset that they didn't spilt it off into the 3 types. Hopefully in the future they'll change that
Exciting ❤️❤️🤩👍
I don´t see the problem in combined disciplines. lead climbing will be the middle ground for speed climbers and boulderers. Both are used to intense rather short power bursts compared to lead climbing. In lead climbing it will show how the climbers are able to combine their knowledge of technique and power management. The only thing I would like to see more are older climbers of 30 upwards. I don´t like the children dominated Olympics. Climbing embraces all ages. It´s the wrong message.
Most Olympians retire past 30
@@LexLuxray well, that needs to change.
Its gonna be epic.
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It's a really stupid format. The whole reason speed is included is because the olympics is mostly about generating ad revenue and they believe speed climbing is more exciting as a spectator sport, but the way they have the format the speed climbing on offer will actually be lower standard than typical pro level because the only people who will make it through the rounds will be lead and boulderers.
Additionally, even to non-climbers, bouldering is going to be way more interesting to watch than speed. Speed will probably be a novel experience for the first few rounds but I can't imagine it getting as much love as bouldering or even lead.
I just want to say those guys can climb faster in real life than i can in vr where i am effectively almost weightless.
(Girls included)
This is going to let everyone down. “Non-climbers” would love to watch speed climbing because its easy to understand and appreciate. Climbers love watching bouldering and lead for the minute difficulties and complexities that go into it. Non-climbers are going to find that harder to appreciate and I imagine they’d be pretty bored by it. Lumping all of the events together is perhaps a foot in the door Olympics-wise, but it certainly will not be memorable with how the events, scoring, and results go. But I feel like it is a dyno in the right direction- albeit an awkward one.
I think that clumping them together is the major mistake. Having elite speed climbers is much more entertaining for the general audience because if you watch those competitions what they do seems unnatural. Seeing a sprinter or a swimmer go extremely fast is cool and all, but if you watch those competitions it genuinely looks fake. I normally stick to bouldering but I've tried speed climbing and I can say that sport/bouldering climbers will look like fish out of water in an Olympic caliber event. As for bouldering I think it would also be entertaining for general audiences. They would probably have the setters set really dynamic and/or shouldery moves (which to be fair is what most climbing comps are doing) because bouldering allows for incredible highlights that could be used. The use of endurance focused sport climbers or speed climbers will dilute the appeal. I do think sport climbing should be left out for climbings first run because it doesn't have the same entertainment value, however I think that it could be brought in later Olympics. Climbing would best be implemented similarly to snowboarding was where new variations were introduced as more and more attention was brought to it. The key difference is that rock climbing is unlike anything most people have ever seen, so using speed and bouldering which have the most unbelievable feats of athleticism would allow climbing to become a popular event in the Olympics.
Cool
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Ninja warrior made it to the Olympics
The only problem is the stages cant be the same over time, just like skateboarding
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There's nothing to hear that is current. WHY?
Why!!
cuz ur mom
@@salamandersaladman8483 Clever.
Still waiting for Ultimate
When is squash?
same time as potatoes and stuffing
janja will win lead and bouldering so she will probably get gold if she can even slightly speed climb.... men will be difficult to pick a winner probably one of the Japanese men... they just should have done speed separate at the very least.
@Leonis Krigorian Adam ondra is probably better at lead than he is at boulder... he's more likely to finsh first in lead than bouldering I also seen he is doing 7 second speed climbs which is Very good for a none speed climbers so probably the favourite.... Janja tho I would probably put my house on getting gold she's number one boulder and top 2 lead... There is a Korean girl who's name I can't remember at this moment who pushes her in lead but combined it's not much of a contest she's number one after winning gold I hope she sets the hardest ever outdoor route maybe a 9b or 9b+
Tokyo 2020 X
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indonesia is the sport climbing king in asian games
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What about outdoor free solo. That would be sick!
can we just drop speed climbing
Good stuff....
Can we make dodgeball a sport foreal
Have fun in radiated Japan!!
The sideways on camera to her face is really off putting
Climbing jothiraj aliyas jothiraj Karnataka
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i dont know if i waching olimpic games or the x games ......maybe ameeriican ninja warrior
Japanese athelete has leukemia. GO Tokyo 2020 Deadly Nuclear Radiation Olympics!
Who's here after watching the Sports Climbing Anime
Welp this is shame
I hope USA doesn’t win any medal they have to many as it is
not in climbing
We only have a lot of medals because we have a very high and diverse population. Our standard of living is also pretty good overall
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Combined format is idiotic.
More idiotic then oh idk starting to train and learn all 3 combined styles....
Ugh, does she have to put a phonetic interrogation mark after every sentence?
Forget the climbing, she’s gorgeous
I just can't believe this is going to become Olympic and competitive Wushu isn't ...
what a poor introduction to climbing....
Spikeball next lol
Whalen will there be gymnastics 🤸♀️?????
Chloe Hanna ..... Someone tell her
Unfortunately we won’t be seeing the addition of gymnastics anytime soon, as they were added in 1896.
What a joke baahahha
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