On behalf of heavy runners everywhere, it would be fun/cool/beneficial if you would include a heavier runner as one of your testers. I imagine that a 100 kg runner experience shoes a little differently, than the average 75 kg runner. There are very few shoetubers that cover that massive (pun intended) marked, and since you guys specialize on providing different point of views ( and as we all knows, many of the shoes we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view 😎) I think that would really help this channel grow and gain some gravitas in the running community.
Great idea! It's hard to try to infer how the firmness or softness in a shoe would scale with the weight of the user from the way you speak about it from your experience being lighter.
Agreed someone who is "old and fat, but still thinks they're all that! - As you get older you loose your spring, need more cushioning and the heel drop/excessive response can destroy your achilles and your calves etc and you pick up injuries.
@@JUSTKOZ Lol, I am not fat. I am a 190 cm tall lifter with more muscles than the regular marathoner, hence my weight. That being said, why should I care about sins?
I don’t have cushioned trail shoe so I use my New Balance More V3 shoes when I need to run on trails and open fields. It actually works because it’s got a little bit of traction and it’s got a very wide base for stability.
On CloudMonster is my new favorite shoe, it took the spot of my Clifton 8s, which replaced my Nike ZoomFLY 4. They are light and snappy even though they have a high stack height.
My fastest race shoe is the Adios pro, but it’s not comfortable (the upper hurts my feet) for me and I can’t take it past 1/2 marathon. The Alpha fly is almost as fast, but very comfortable. Absolutely a better long distance race shoe. The Vaporfly 2 is ok for me, but doesn’t feel special on my feet.
Nice video. My daily is the nova blast 2. For me they are not a track or race day shoe. I am interested in the Sen 8, no one Has it in the store, the Mach 4 is as narrow as I can go. How do they compare in size? This will be my track and 5/10k shoe.
My running shoe rotation is: Daily trainer: Asics Novablast 2 & NB 1080v11 Tempo/speed: Endorphin Speed 2 Race: Nike Vaporfly Next%2 Quite good selection if I may say so ? 😎
My rotation is: Daily - Asics Novablast 3; Recovery - New balance more v4 ; Threshold - Hoka Mach 5 ; Intervals - Saucony endorphin Speed 3. Before this had Asics Noosa 13, didn't like them much because cause some tension in my hip flexor. Had brooks ghost 14, very normal shoe. Can't understand the hype. I'm eager to try the Puma Deviate nitro 2 and the velocity nitro 2 as well.
What's the best shoe for 10-20km speed/tempo training and can be used for marathon race day? I'm aiming for asics magic speed or are there better options?
Thanks for the video, really great info! Out of interest, what do you guys do with your trainers when they've passed 300+ miles and are getting a bit worn?
I wear until I start noticing it affects my running, my comfort, or they just get too scuffed. A bit worn is fine but afterwards u should definitely replace
@@money1bil but my question is, what do you do with the worn trainers? Put them in a charity shop? Keep them for other use? I've got a few worn out pairs mounting up and I'm trying to decide what's the best thing to do with them haha
@@bobbyconns I just throw them away or if they’re recyclable then try to find a place or donating is fine too, maybe someone will like them fashion wise
Hi guys what do you recommend for tempos and speed work?. Mach 4s disappointed me they weren't comfy for me I'd love something similar or different love nike tempos. And alfaflys need a new daily shoe what can do most thinks and fast shoe thanks guys
Very informative video, but I have a question...I have no idea how you get all these "feelings" about running shoes. I have zero of those feelings. Responsiveness, comfort, fast, slow, shoes for daily training etc... To me, all my running shoes are pretty much the same, and if they aren't exactly the same I wouldn't be able to say what the difference is. I'm genuinely curious because I have been running weekly for about 12 years now, done multiple full marathons, some trail. I'm definitely not a pro, but I enjoy running. But for me, i have zero feeling in particular in shoes. My 3 pairs at the moment are all "comfortable", one is "lighter", that's the max I could say about them. My question is, how do I enter your world? Feels like gastronomy for feet. And is it important to enter this world? Or am I good with my absence of knowledge in shoes? Thanks :)
I wonder how because I’ve tried like 4 Nikes this year and they were very very different shoes 😅 weight, stability, softness, responsiveness (this is a bit more abstract), rocker shaped to roll off or flatter geometry and the offset howmuch it tilts ur feet forward. Don’t worry about it if it feels good but i find it fun to find the shoes I like. For example I didn’t like the Nike invincible run because they were too soft for me but they are very good running shoes.
@@Natan9000 maybe the key is to try lots of shoes in the same day or so? I wouldn't remember the feeling i had on my shoes from last year compared to the ones I use now 🤔
I have bought alot of shoes, chasing this particular rainbow, and agree that 95% of the feeling I get from shoes are more or less the same. But I am a jogger, doing easier runs almost everytime. A few weeks ago, I was out running in my new Mach 4, and could not quite understand why these shoes are getting such rave reviews. But as coincident would have it, I picked up the pace, going from 6:30 min/km to about 5:15 min/km, and then I felt it. The so called bouncy energy return, or whatever they want to call it. But the whole characteristic of the shoe changed, became alive and fun. That has never happened to me before, not at that level. I am also a big heavy dude, and have always suspected that I squish most of the life out of my shoes. But this experience have showed me a different side of shoes.
I want the puma to try. Im 59 and think it sounds like what I need daily. Been using the Mach 4. Question is I wear a 12.5 US and Puma only offers 12 or 13 US. Only way to get it is on line no stores here where I live with it. Would 12 or 13 be best?
The endorphin speed 2 is too narrow and unstable for me. I tend to slightly over pronate and would like to choose a light mild stability shoe that has good energy return instead. Any suggestions? Thanks 🙏
I’ve had the same problem. After only two months I was over pronating. After 3-4 It was becoming dangerous so I went off to change shoes fast to a more stable show. As I’m a light and fast runner I went for some Brooks Hyperion tempo (light and smaller).
I'm currently in no man's land with shoes. alphafly is fast but absolutely kill my feet. my triumph 19 are comfortable but feel slow compared to alphafly. I need to try a good selection out to try find the right one.
Everybody suggest the saucony endorphin speed 2 as a daily trainier, but i found my foot really beaten up after i ran easy pace/slow pace on the endorphin speed 2 , is it just me? Or i got the defect pair? Or everyone feeling the same?
@@geert574 i had novablast 2 and nike zoomx invincible run fk in my rotation, thats why the saucony endorphin speed 2 felt so firm under my foot, but i love how it feel underfoot with faster pace
What would you guys recommend for an ultra marathon? I'm doing comrades in August . 90k and very hilly. My favorite marathon shoe is the alphafly for sure. My pace is usually around 4:30 per K for a marathon. But I'll be going around 5:30 in comrades. Thinking the alphafly will not work at that speed. I was thinking to use my NB RC elites. Any thoughts?or any recommendations for a road ultra 90k. Thanks and great video guys.
Hi Jonathon, (Kieran here), nice work doing the Comrades, this one is on the list for sure. In terms of shoes, my only advice is that you want a shoe that's going to be as comfortable when you're moving with good form as it is when you're maybe a bit more ragged towards the end of the race where it's like to be less about marginal carbon shoe gains than having happy feet. That should might be different for you than it is for me but I'd be tempted to go Saucony Speed 2 for something like this.
@@Manvmiles thanks so much. The speeds are one of the few shoes I have not tried. I became a brooks hyperion tempo fan for my speed sessions so never gave the speeds a try. Might have to give them a go. Honestly the NB RC elite 2 are very comfortable on my legs and I can go easy on them also. Thanks again for responding
@@jonathanwatkins447 I’m in the same predicament but I normally run Comrades at 7min/km. I have the Speeds and I use them for tempo runs and racing HM and Marathons…….it would be interesting to feel how they do on a slow long run. At the moment I’m also thinking NB RC Elites…..just need to get them asap and test them. All the best with the training.
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I love the fact that an experienced runner enjoys the Nitro 2 so much given it's £100 price tag.
Great video as always chaps. Satisfied to see the 2 shoes I own get a mention, Triumph 19's and Rocket X, nice one Mike 👍
Great vid! Rotation: Boston 10-long runs Race: NB FuelCell Prism 2 No tempo speed shoes at moment
Great video with experienced runners sharing all their great experiences Thank you!
Great review guys!
Love my Endorphin Speed 2. After 20+km runs I hardly feel any aches the next day. Will be upgrading to the Pro for race days only.
On behalf of heavy runners everywhere, it would be fun/cool/beneficial if you would include a heavier runner as one of your testers.
I imagine that a 100 kg runner experience shoes a little differently, than the average 75 kg runner. There are very few shoetubers that cover that massive (pun intended) marked, and since you guys specialize on providing different point of views ( and as we all knows, many of the shoes we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view 😎) I think that would really help this channel grow and gain some gravitas in the running community.
Great idea! It's hard to try to infer how the firmness or softness in a shoe would scale with the weight of the user from the way you speak about it from your experience being lighter.
Agreed someone who is "old and fat, but still thinks they're all that! - As you get older you loose your spring, need more cushioning and the heel drop/excessive response can destroy your achilles and your calves etc and you pick up injuries.
*smashes the LIKE button a bazillion times* Please add a heavier runner into your mix. Why do none of the shoetubers get this?!
Just lose weight, its a sin to be fat.
@@JUSTKOZ Lol, I am not fat. I am a 190 cm tall lifter with more muscles than the regular marathoner, hence my weight.
That being said, why should I care about sins?
Congrats on the 30,000 well deserved👍
I have Velocity 2 and I agree absolutely. I also have Endorphins Speed 1, and I guess Ill have to upgrade! Great video
I don’t have cushioned trail shoe so I use my New Balance More V3 shoes when I need to run on trails and open fields. It actually works because it’s got a little bit of traction and it’s got a very wide base for stability.
Easy Run: Nike Invincible. Daily trainer/fast trainer: Tempo Next. Race Shoe: Alphafly and Vaporfly
On CloudMonster is my new favorite shoe, it took the spot of my Clifton 8s, which replaced my Nike ZoomFLY 4. They are light and snappy even though they have a high stack height.
Easy - Nike Invincible
Daily - endorphin Speed
Race - Adios pro for shorter, alpha fly for longer
The endorphan speed too is so good
I'm looking at getting my 1st super shoe soon so I'm really torn on what to really lean towards
Soft: Invincible, Daily: Mach 4 or Peg37, Tempo: Tempo Next%, Race: Vaporfly Next%
A really good video fellas 👏🏽👏🏽
Thanks a lot
Bought the DynaBlast from Asics. Very good daily, it's been a while since I bought Asics. Been running in Nike React and Adidas Boost trainers
Thank you for the level. What do you think of the Ultra Boost 214 shoes?
My fastest race shoe is the Adios pro, but it’s not comfortable (the upper hurts my feet) for me and I can’t take it past 1/2 marathon. The Alpha fly is almost as fast, but very comfortable. Absolutely a better long distance race shoe. The Vaporfly 2 is ok for me, but doesn’t feel special on my feet.
I'm so sad that the more v3 isn't available in Australia. What are other super cushioned racers you guys recommend? I'm a 98kg beginner runner.
Nice video.
My daily is the nova blast 2. For me they are not a track or race day shoe.
I am interested in the Sen 8, no one Has it in the store, the Mach 4 is as narrow as I can go. How do they compare in size? This will be my track and 5/10k shoe.
Next year can you do: Tempo, daily, easy?
My running shoe rotation is:
Daily trainer: Asics Novablast 2 & NB 1080v11
Tempo/speed: Endorphin Speed 2
Race: Nike Vaporfly Next%2
Quite good selection if I may say so ? 😎
Is the Endorphin Pro true to size like the Endorphin Speed?
@@marcosperez3151 I don't own the Endorphin Pro
what about the long run?
@@mitchruns9667 I can use all 3 shoes for long runs.
Love this channel , great vid as always . Why am I not surprised about nicks picks lmao 😂
Yeah, the guy is a one trick pony
If it works it works lol
Thinking I want the puma 🤔
Seems to be on everyone’s shoe list this year. Love the sens 8 and the speeds as well.
me too 😁
My rotation is: Daily - Asics Novablast 3; Recovery - New balance more v4 ; Threshold - Hoka Mach 5 ; Intervals - Saucony endorphin Speed 3.
Before this had Asics Noosa 13, didn't like them much because cause some tension in my hip flexor. Had brooks ghost 14, very normal shoe. Can't understand the hype.
I'm eager to try the Puma Deviate nitro 2 and the velocity nitro 2 as well.
Asics Novablast 2 ❤️👏
Can you guys try ASICS Evoride 3. Would love to hear you all about that feedback.
Clifton 8, Speed 1, Next 1
Can we get a 4 shoe rotation next year? And where is jane and laura?
Brooks didn't make anyone's list? I love my Glycerins, but I think I will try On Cloudmonsters next
what's the fastest shoe on the market for a 2 mile (3200m) race full effort ??
Great 😊
Velocity Nitro v2 vs Mach 4?
What's the best shoe for 10-20km speed/tempo training and can be used for marathon race day? I'm aiming for asics magic speed or are there better options?
The Saucony Endorphin Speed 2 is probably our top choice
Great Video! Check out the Salomon Phantasm as well. They are introducing some very interesting models. Love to see what you think of those!
Thanks for the video, really great info! Out of interest, what do you guys do with your trainers when they've passed 300+ miles and are getting a bit worn?
I wear until I start noticing it affects my running, my comfort, or they just get too scuffed. A bit worn is fine but afterwards u should definitely replace
@@money1bil but my question is, what do you do with the worn trainers? Put them in a charity shop? Keep them for other use? I've got a few worn out pairs mounting up and I'm trying to decide what's the best thing to do with them haha
@@bobbyconns I just throw them away or if they’re recyclable then try to find a place or donating is fine too, maybe someone will like them fashion wise
@@money1bil Yeah I was thinking about donating them too. Thanks Marco!
Wear them to mow the lawn or do other chores that make your shoes dirty
Hi guys what do you recommend for tempos and speed work?. Mach 4s disappointed me they weren't comfy for me I'd love something similar or different love nike tempos. And alfaflys need a new daily shoe what can do most thinks and fast shoe thanks guys
endorphin speed 2 for your fast days!
Very informative video, but I have a question...I have no idea how you get all these "feelings" about running shoes. I have zero of those feelings. Responsiveness, comfort, fast, slow, shoes for daily training etc... To me, all my running shoes are pretty much the same, and if they aren't exactly the same I wouldn't be able to say what the difference is. I'm genuinely curious because I have been running weekly for about 12 years now, done multiple full marathons, some trail. I'm definitely not a pro, but I enjoy running. But for me, i have zero feeling in particular in shoes. My 3 pairs at the moment are all "comfortable", one is "lighter", that's the max I could say about them. My question is, how do I enter your world? Feels like gastronomy for feet. And is it important to enter this world? Or am I good with my absence of knowledge in shoes? Thanks :)
The more that I run and greater variety of pace, the more different shoes are noticeably different. Changes the whole tone of a run.
I wouldn't worry too much. The golden rule is still to go with what feels best on your feet.
I wonder how because I’ve tried like 4 Nikes this year and they were very very different shoes 😅 weight, stability, softness, responsiveness (this is a bit more abstract), rocker shaped to roll off or flatter geometry and the offset howmuch it tilts ur feet forward. Don’t worry about it if it feels good but i find it fun to find the shoes I like. For example I didn’t like the Nike invincible run because they were too soft for me but they are very good running shoes.
@@Natan9000 maybe the key is to try lots of shoes in the same day or so? I wouldn't remember the feeling i had on my shoes from last year compared to the ones I use now 🤔
I have bought alot of shoes, chasing this particular rainbow, and agree that 95% of the feeling I get from shoes are more or less the same.
But I am a jogger, doing easier runs almost everytime.
A few weeks ago, I was out running in my new Mach 4, and could not quite understand why these shoes are getting such rave reviews. But as coincident would have it, I picked up the pace, going from 6:30 min/km to about 5:15 min/km, and then I felt it. The so called bouncy energy return, or whatever they want to call it. But the whole characteristic of the shoe changed, became alive and fun.
That has never happened to me before, not at that level. I am also a big heavy dude, and have always suspected that I squish most of the life out of my shoes. But this experience have showed me a different side of shoes.
I want the puma to try. Im 59 and think it sounds like what I need daily. Been using the Mach 4. Question is I wear a 12.5 US and Puma only offers 12 or 13 US. Only way to get it is on line no stores here where I live with it. Would 12 or 13 be best?
The endorphin speed 2 is too narrow and unstable for me. I tend to slightly over pronate and would like to choose a light mild stability shoe that has good energy return instead. Any suggestions? Thanks 🙏
I’ve had the same problem. After only two months I was over pronating. After 3-4 It was becoming dangerous so I went off to change shoes fast to a more stable show.
As I’m a light and fast runner I went for some Brooks Hyperion tempo (light and smaller).
I'm currently in no man's land with shoes. alphafly is fast but absolutely kill my feet. my triumph 19 are comfortable but feel slow compared to alphafly. I need to try a good selection out to try find the right one.
how about the Saucony Endorphine Speed 2 ? i'm waiting for mine, most people seem to be very satisfied with them
@@pm1862 yeah I've considered them but haven't tried them yet. I think the new version is out very soon though.
Everybody suggest the saucony endorphin speed 2 as a daily trainier, but i found my foot really beaten up after i ran easy pace/slow pace on the endorphin speed 2 , is it just me? Or i got the defect pair? Or everyone feeling the same?
That's normal for saucony they're never the most bunyan free shoe, try gel nimbus you probably don't lope like a gazelle
@@geert574 i had novablast 2 and nike zoomx invincible run fk in my rotation, thats why the saucony endorphin speed 2 felt so firm under my foot, but i love how it feel underfoot with faster pace
Well all I can say is the endorphin speed 2 is not made for easy/slow runs...
What shoes is the best overall? Will be using for the gym as well
Ah gym shoes, go for something flat and less cushioning like chuck taylors
Is Salomon shoes not good for running?
Its good for running , but more tailored towards trailrunning
No Brooks???
does the endorphin speed 2 come in wide?
They Speed 2 do not but it is rumoured that the Speed 3 will have a wide option. Those come out this summer.
@@jessebutler9352 thanks a ton for the info. I will get myself some of the v3’s when they come out
V3 is downgrade because v2 undercuts their other sales so they nerfed the shoe
@@geert574 yup they are making it into a daily trainer, instead of a tempo shoe that made it so great. Stock up on the v2
What would you guys recommend for an ultra marathon? I'm doing comrades in August . 90k and very hilly. My favorite marathon shoe is the alphafly for sure. My pace is usually around 4:30 per K for a marathon. But I'll be going around 5:30 in comrades. Thinking the alphafly will not work at that speed. I was thinking to use my NB RC elites. Any thoughts?or any recommendations for a road ultra 90k. Thanks and great video guys.
Hi Jonathon, (Kieran here), nice work doing the Comrades, this one is on the list for sure. In terms of shoes, my only advice is that you want a shoe that's going to be as comfortable when you're moving with good form as it is when you're maybe a bit more ragged towards the end of the race where it's like to be less about marginal carbon shoe gains than having happy feet. That should might be different for you than it is for me but I'd be tempted to go Saucony Speed 2 for something like this.
@@Manvmiles thanks so much. The speeds are one of the few shoes I have not tried. I became a brooks hyperion tempo fan for my speed sessions so never gave the speeds a try. Might have to give them a go. Honestly the NB RC elite 2 are very comfortable on my legs and I can go easy on them also. Thanks again for responding
@@jonathanwatkins447 I’m in the same predicament but I normally run Comrades at 7min/km. I have the Speeds and I use them for tempo runs and racing HM and Marathons…….it would be interesting to feel how they do on a slow long run. At the moment I’m also thinking NB RC Elites…..just need to get them asap and test them. All the best with the training.
@@nkululekomabaso4273 thanks for the info and good luck
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new balance 1080 ......just avoid it
Looks like the puma velocity ticks all the boxes as the ultimate easy shoe but boy is it ugly looking! If only it had different colors
It does?? I can see 5 colours on Pumas site
The red is awesome! My favorite daily all-rounder.
You need bigger rotations 😂