Ghibli Movies Are Overrated
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Regardless of the movies themselves, all the soundtracks made by Joe Hisaishi are masterpieces and no one can tell me otherwise.
facts
Actual fakts
The food that are animated are top tier.
When One Summer's Day starts playing, I start tearing up
I love the soundtrack of Spirited Away and Ponyo :)
Hayao Miyazaki while watching this video: They are not adult yet
@@bogiewoods3037 spoken like a man who's never been around 12 year olds 🤣🤣
@@bogiewoods3037 Someone's projecting.
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@@TheSonic497 I don't think you understand what projecting means
@@GMOTP5738 That's you assuming
"Ghibli is too much like Disney."
Yeah, Grave of the Fireflies absolutely screams Disney to me.
…you’re joking right?
@@yoloyemma he is it’s sarcasm :)
@@Jujuboy0 kinda hard to understand sarcasm through text :)
like disney hasn't done movies with a more serious tone....
Way to cherry pick a movie that fits your argument
"This doesn't feel anime" is the worst excuse to not like something ever.
It is a legit excuse, the style might be anime, but I don't get the vibe either and they just tend to feel boring.
@@IppoX90 anime isn't a style, it doesn't have a feel. It's just animation from Japan. So it just doesn't feel like *his* preferred type of anime, which either is him just restricting the types of entertainment he consumes or he only likes a specific type of show
Not that there's anything wrong with not liking Ghibli, his excuse for not liking it though I found the phrasing really dumb
@@koolkevster8199 Style as in animation style.
@@IppoX90 anime isn't an animation style though. Anime = japanese animation. Anime comes in a variety of different styles, there is no one anime style
A kids movie doesn’t need “adult humor” to be enjoyed by adults. I hate when people say that.
I think they meant it just needs to be grounded enough and not act like kids are dumb. Take Avatar: The Last Airbender for example. Perfect for all audiences. The story is simple enough to be understood by kids, but there’s a lot more to it when you view it as an older person.
Yeah that shit about needing a penis or sex joke is bullshit. If you can't enjoy a kid's or family film without it needing to be tainted by haha yes vagina then get the fuck out. There's plenty to enjoy in Mononoke about the spiritual decline, decline of the samurai, industrialization, and the effect of guns. Spirited Away is a fantastic film for the visuals, music, voice acting, and the story of Chihiro braving her way through an unknown world not meant for her. And Ponyo is cute! Cute!
Watch peppa pig for 8 hours tell me if you don't get bored on that
@@jqa16 that is what trash taste meant. You can’t just consume media that was only directed at kids.
@@jqa16 yeah we need innuendo and cocks in it to be exciting
Miyazaki has retired more times than a professional wrestler.
Goldberg is apparently wrestling again now that you mention it...
@@FF18Cloud Last few times he's been in the ring he was super sloppy. I thought he was going to kill Undertaker with that Jackhammer.
He's gunning for Terry Funk's record
@@eyeguydojima7131 Absolutely brilliant! I actually got to meet his brother Dory Funk in person a couple years back at an NXT house show in North Florida. He didn't wrestle of course but was fearured in the show.
@@DA-nk6gx Dang! That's cool! I was actually at the Smackdown where Daniel Bryan came out of retirement. :)
"Ghibli movies don't feel like anime" This is what happens when you become a weaboo.
The violence in Vindland Saga looks more like the type of anime violence you’d see in a typical anime series whereas Ghibli films have the violence being more similar to discount Disney violence in anime.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr typical weebs :
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr okay? Still the criticism of “doesn’t feel like anime” against Ghibli is one of the stupidest criticisms ever
Whhat about One Piece? But i take it you mean the plastic designs that are too perfect? Interms of faces and designs and such
Does an anime have to have violence in order for it to be an anime(a Japanese animation/cartoon) ?
The reason why I love the Ghibli movies is that the kids and teenagers act and look like people their age should. I’m sick of the oversexualized characters pretty much every anime nowadays have
That’s why Ocean Waves is my favorite Ghibli film
As much as I like anime, I have to agree that there are too many 15-year-olds doing things way beyond their age. It's not just about sex. There are too many kids being sent to battlefields fighting for their lives in anime IMAO
When I watch them, they make happy, and some times thats all I need, plus they are so immersive.
@@DL-idk It’s all target demographics. Most anime (especially shonen) appeal to teenagers around that age. And teenagers are a very profitable market. Edit: Yeah it’s not relatable because they don’t want their boring lives represented. They want to see themselves as the cool badass action hero.
I agree, but I don't think that's a good reason why you should love them imo. It says more abt how fan-servicey and vulgar regular anime is compared to the ghibli catalogue. Ghiblis do have a lot more than just that reason to love them, but that should be normal if anything imo
The way they forgot spirited away for whole time is so funny.
Spirited Away is my favorite movie of all time. I would have come for their souls if they dissed it!
As if it was Kamikakushied from their mind
@@ZaxorVonSkyler ignoring it entirely is worse than dissing it lol
and Grave of the Fireflies
Also pretty mid
Ghibli movies are overrated - - - > 90% talk about Miyazaki
Yeah not exactly the first director to be an ahole. Also what about Takahata?
pretty much, they don't like ghibli because of miyazaki.
People just like hating things that are widely popular. Like I hate My Hero Academia, but mostly because people praise it as the "best anime" or "best shounen," when it's not true at all. At least Miyazaki's works are handcrafted with rich writing and animation. I think it's nothing like Disney, where it's specifically targeted to children, and the movies are owned by a company that's only looking for money.
@@philcalvino884 I know he is blamed for the death of Yoshifumi Kondo, which was down to being overworked.
@@pzz6367
Kay off topic but I honestly got bored of mha, the only reason I watched it was because my crush at the time liked it. I liked it for a few months but got bored cause it was so plain
"Ghibli is Disney "
I knew from this point on I'm not gonna like this guy.
"Ghibli is too much like Disney" as if Disney are not responsible for some of the best animated movies ever made
Don't you know weebs only like things that are Japanese and choose to turn away from thing's that are not Japanese
@@layton6202 my bad I forgot that western companies are physically incapable of making anything good or whatever weebs think
@@tescomealdeals you have to be a special type of person to be a weeb and that's what these guys are they love the cartoon's so much they moved to the country that makes it.......plus by their mannerisms you could tell why they are the way they are. Specially dude with the grey shirt and his forced laughter he seems special.
only the truth ok that’s not cool how do you manage to take it from “weebs don’t like Disney” to “garnt is retarded”
@@tescomealdeals nah I always thought he was he Acts the same way as the kid who has sapphire autism in my class
Personally, I feel like Ghibli movie's aren't plot driven, but are rather more enjoyable as an experience. The plots are nothing spectacular, but when the story unfolds with the visuals and the amazing soundtracks, that feeling of magic and nostalgia is what makes ghibli movies special.
@Patricio Escamilla Mues If you think immersion into a world "looking cool" because the plots not complex then you're view on what's good is shallow.
that exactly why i cant stand them. 2 movies that i actually consider good are grave of firefly and ...mononoke, spirited away is good for a bit untill its not, the plot near the end when she goes to meet the other witch and somehow she has a thing with the boy is the most bullshit thing i have ever seen. It feels interrupt. Howl moving castle is the same but worse, everything just kinda happened out of nowhere, the thing about " oh you shouldnt care about plot, just enjoy the world" may i ask where's that come from?? or you make that up so the story can be good in ur eyes, cus seriously, if u dont want me to question things then stop writing a story that way. I swear if those shit were turned into live action, they would get laughed at. I pretty much enjoy the world and i kinda accept it but i jst cant accept the narration of it.
@Patricio Escamilla Mues I have read and watched both, but to say one is shallow without the other is discrediting the skill it takes to actually do each one. A well written complex story is extremely hard to do, but so is making an extremely beautiful setting that comes to life.
And no there's not a whole bunch with both. A lot of people's idea of a well written story is just jumbled plot points, generic cast of characters. Or a setting that's been copy pasted for decades.
@@TheMinhthe This is just bad analysis then isn't it. Like I said I'm not gonna stop you from criticizing the flaws in Ghibli films. But to call it bad must mean it has no redeeming qualities, which isn't true. That goes for most movies, not only animation.
And the idea that every thing must be explained is not only bad analysis and critique but terrible writing. If it's not super important to the story it doesn't have to be told. You don't need to be told why and how everything happened/started for you to make sense of the plot in Howl's moving castle to understand the story. That's you lacking critical thinking to understand that it doesn't physically change anything going on in the movie, plot, or character dynamics so it's not a good critique.
Y'all could be questioning characterization, dialogue, actual plot points and their relevancy with the message of the story or plot but instead most of your complaints is very basic "it doesn't matter" answers.
@@samuelpemberton "And the idea that every thing must be explained is not only bad analysis and critique but terrible writing", who said that? You ??? cus i didnt. You said it not super important to the story??? Which part is considered not important and which isnt ??. Sure, something can or maybe should left unsaid, unknown in story telling but does it have an answer?? If it has but does the story get better if they add it in or it get worse ?? depend but last time i check its not character development. Im not saying they need to show everything about Sophia or Chihiro for me to understand cus im pretty much understand those characters from start to finish, i just dont care about them. The reason i say the story doesnt make sense cus they tell the story in a very usual way, not anything unique or creative, just the sameshit and next plot just happens just like the creators too were tired of them and wanted to move on. Oh im sorry, u tell a story, u convey a plot in the most basic way, u make me care about it (even tho it not much) in the most basic way, but somehow u tell me to look at the movie in a different way?? Its not important?? Are you sure its not, cus im pretty sure the part that "isnt" important IS important. Im not sure if we r talking about which plot specifically. Others did it and they got critisized, somehow Ghibli got away with it?? Do i get what they mean? i do but feel nothing. It just want to tell u THE MESSEGE. Since im not here to watch a movie to JUST understand it i want to FEEL it, no pretentiously forced myself to feel, and dont u manipulate me with the music and acting or some cute animal dying, i want a plot, a sequense that tell me something in full, no cheating. if the messege is all i want i would rather read the summary of it in some youtube channel, not pay for it. That's the reason why people want explaination or should i say a presentation, a performence, a race, a match. What Ghibli did with their movie are just cheap tricks.
Calling Ghibli "Disney" is a sin
It is because anything with family friendly, abstract concepts involving interaction with sentiment inanimate objects, a tiny political allegory written within it, a corny way of going about character study, a focus on eye candy over plot and having a vague and broad sense of demographic are all huge components that both ghibli and disney movies have.
Tbf, Miyazaki got his inspiration from Disney
@@justice9808 Disney got his inspiration from Miyazaki
@@giantking2004 lol no Disney died 20 years before ghibli started
I mean they did work with disney though
"doesn't feel like anime" i mean, just cuz it's not in a high school setting with tits all over, doesn't mean it's not anime. It's just that Miyazaki has a different perspective on life, which feels much more real and pure. He's also very sensitive and seem to take emotions into a vacuum
Weaboo behavior
cope
Welp it would be like if u only enjoyed a certain genre of film and then u say u dont like a film bec its not the genre you like
@Low Bro I don't recall them ever saying that it not being Anime lowers the quality or their enjoyment.
I feel like the themes of the Miyazaki films are a bit too deep and/or slow for people raised on seasonal animes and constant stimulation. Its similar with people who dont like Sergio Leone's films (Spaghetti Westerns), they just dont have the patience for stories that have time to breathe and develop.
I love how they give no good reasons why they think Ghibli movies are bad, they just shit on Miyazaki and complain that the animation has too many frames in it.
Already many people have explained why Ghibli movies, especially Myazaki's film aren't that good. Movies like Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle and even now, The Boy and the Heron suffer the same problems:
- Story is badly written
- Poorly developed characters
- EXTREMELY rushed final act
- Twists and reveals with zero proper buildup
- So many plot holes
- Writer sucks cause many of the problems that the movie faces he responds with, "Oh I can't answer that but its up to you! I TOTALLY had this planned when I was writing this!"
Seriously if this was ANY other movie or director, people would hate the movie into oblivion. But the second they see the name Ghibli and Myazaki, "OHHH ITS PERFECT EVEN THOUGH NOTHING MAKES ANY SENSE!"
@arekmg0003 yes but if their main focus of the video is that they don't care for Ghibli movies, an explanation FROM THEM is needed or they are just a bunch of adults talking shit like moronic children. Anyone can say they don't like something, giving good reason and critical feedback is what makes an opinion valuable.
@@arekmg0003 not even 1 take that makes sense lol
@@arekmg0003 I think theres a slight chance you MIGHT be over exaggerating a little bit with "0 build up badly written bad characters bad final act and plot holes" no? Like these movies sound like a genuine 1/10 from your pov.
So basically you just found a few things you disliked and since you have a weird grudge against miyazaki and you dont like people praising him you now think the movies are absolute dog shit.
Sad for you tho, your childhood wouldve been alot better if you watched these movies growing up :)
@@arekmg0003 That's not an actusl breakdown with valid reasons. Just mindless complaints with 0 understanding of the material they try to criticize. The people who don't know shit love to talk the loudest without an actual explanation.
“How you have culture if you don’t watch studio ghibli”?
- Uncle Roger
Haiya!
Uncle Roger most likely watched Disney though
@Eric Gonzalez agree tbh. He’s a caricature for americans (w/ asian heritage) to have fun w than actual asians
@@CervC I enjoy his comedy.
I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THAT
Castle in the Sky doesn’t get enough credit
Pure nostalgia, always get the feels from when they crash land on the island. Makes me want to be there 😢
ong, it brings me peace.
Its a fcking trash movie
@@kabutothedragon Someone's got some daddy issues
@@redgefleming1535 how
"doesn't feel like anime" - meaning - doesn't have wifus, crazy ridiculous action or the same tired usual anime tropes. Also, no, Ghibli is not even close to feel like a disney movie.
Exactly-
Umm no, what he tried to say was that how differently Ghibli movies are animated from other anime. Ghibli movies are very much like Disney movies in the animation aspect. They draw frame by frame, which is not like traditional Japanese animation. Japanese animation are energy based. Like a still image of an arm looks as if it's moving if some action lines are added to the border. Anime studios are able to produce so many anime these days because of these techniques.
Also doesnt have attaching plot, characters, storyline etc
Thank you, now we friends😂
@Low Bro you’ve got to be kidding me???Nausicaa, Wind Rises, Tales of Earthsea, Grave of Fireflies and Princess Mononoke are NOT children films….their plot is very heavy
These podcasters should get tested for COVID, a lack of taste is a major symptom.
Lmao!
…damn
@@mentalkittyRealOG Dude you can't be serious saying that if you ever watched any Ghibli movie lol, Ghibli has literally the most non shallow characters in the movie animation industry, like how did you watch any Ghibli movie and thought yeah this character is shallow ? almost all if not all their movies never have a evil or good character, every character is flawed and never shown as evil for the sake of evil or good for the sake of good, and the movies are always about deep themes and never about fighting the bad guy like any Disney movie
@@mentalkittyRealOGThere's nothing bad about his movies at all you just have shit taste and feel the need to just talk to talk.
@@mentalkittyRealOG you cannot seriously believe uncanny/creepy style is a legitimate criticism 💀
This Title: Ghibli Movies Are Overrated
Some of the comments probably: Why do I hear blasphemy?
Nah I completely agree, the cult like following they have is just weird
I really do think they are overrated.
Some Pixar movies are overrated
@@lordfaust023 My guess is that they seem overrated because in the end, its a kids movie. Ghibli is literally a trademark in itself and those fans who believe that Ghibli movies are the most godsend films to grace the earth push people away with all the wrong expectations for the movie.
Clickbait in a nutshell
Though I do agree some Ghibli films can be overrated, I just can't bring myself to not think highly of Princess Mononoke and Kiki's Delivery service. I love them so much.
Princess Mononoke is a masterpiece, the music just underlines the whole atmosphere perfectly
These aren't the ones that are the most known outside of the anime community, thus probably aren't the ones that considered overrated.
i really love Kiki's Delivery service, i don't get it why people didn't like it or call it a mid, howl moving castle and spirited away is also masterpiece.
@@cruzerdragon1994 Howl's was 8 for me before I got into anime, now it's more on the 7 side. Just like they mentioned in the podcast, it felt like a little improved Disney movie. Haven't watched Spirited away though, but I assume it is a similar kind of experience.
I also feel the same way about kiki, howl and laputa (castle in the sky). Those e movies are too dear to me
This is one of the most generic, superficial and false shit i've ever heard about some art works
because they have trash taste
Dear comment section, can you please stop shitting on people for having taste and preferences different from yours?
Now I get why this podcast is actually called "Trash Taste"
true
Because their opinions are trash? Cos that’s what I think
That kinda makes sense
Underrated comment.
Yup
Pacing in Ghibli movies is weird, and sometimes the endings are not so good...but no one can disagree with the excellent world arts and a nostalgic storyline...that we wish we should have watched when we were ｓｍｏｌ.
I first watched Kikis delivery service when I was 21 and really liked it. I thought it was better than spirited away.
The thing is many of us hardcore ghibli fans don't really view them as movies in a normal sense. They're more like moving pieces of visual and auditory art. The story of a ghibli movie rarely takes centre stage, what's great is the sheer amount of visual and auditory porn you're blasted with!
From a movie standpoint many Ghibli movies are lacking, if you want to look at is as a movie version of art then they're brilliant. This is why they're so celebrated, because they do something that's incredibly difficult to pull off and that isn't done very often.
You can kinda put something like Koe no Katachi in the same box, since what's carrying these very "artsy" animated films are the animation and the sound and the interplay between the two. What's actually going on kinda takes a back seat.
@@ButterBoyism This
Ghibli ending's are weird if you come at it from a Western point of view. The story's are rarely about just getting to C starting from A, but more about the journey B in between. The story's don't "end" the way a Western viewer would expect with a climax to the actions of the plot, but they end with the resolution of the internal struggle of the protagonists.
@@DA-nk6gx spirited away is like ghiblis worse movie imo
Everyone :
- My Neighbour’s Totoro
- Spirited Away
- Howl’s Moving Castle
- Princess Mononoke
Me :
- The Tale of Princess Kaguya :3
Princess Kaguya was fine imo. It was a bit too slow even for ghilbi films and it dragged a little bit too much for its own good. It was still a good film tho.
Yes! Kaguya-hime is my favourite animated movie of all time.
hasn't anyone seen the wind rises??
A true intellectual: Cat Returns
I have and it is amazing, sad to see noone talkin bout it@@nikunjkaran9056
Somewhere a Japanese film professor is absolutely raging right now. Garnt's comment about how Ghibli is more Disney than anime is the whole point! Miyazaki never set out to create anime, in fact he was staunchly against it at the time and was a vocal criticizer of Osamu Tezuka who pioneered anime style as a way of cutting costs by reducing frames. Ghibli's animation technique is intentionally closer to Disney since Miyazaki worked at Toei animation before starting Ghibli, which was heavily inspired by Disney animation.
Not really, thematically and narratively speaking Ghibli is the exact opposite of what Disney does
The reason behind Miyazaki crying over The Wind Rises specifically is the film being very personal to him. It's almost an autobiography, almost.
it is, also, literally biographical of someone else, who he admired
Didn't he say to his son that you don't let real life affect the movies you make...
What a Boring movie
I didn’t like at all
@@fedorkochemasov4533 wrong context, he says he WANTS people to draw from real life and that his son wasn’t doing that
@@12gmkk29 realy??? It by far my favorite ghibli movie I think.
“Miyazaki’s films aren’t ‘anime’ enough” “Miyazaki films are too much like Disney” “Miyazaki films are just for kids”
Spirited Away alone is more mature than 90% anime you guys talk about or films that Disney puts out.
Dude do u know even shit about anime
@@foreverstan5474 i'm into anime since I was little, and i can tell you, spirited away is a lot more mature than 95% of the anime media out there
Garnt just has too much monkey brain to appreciate slow, subtle movies. Same reason why he doesn’t enjoy breaking bad, no lolis
No not really
@@PieboxAnimationsYes it is.
The amount of comments that start with "these kids are dumb" or "these kids don't know anything" is alarming. Are 90% of Ghibli elitists just boomers? LOL
Pretty much.
I find his movies endearing. Never thought of them as overrated but I can see how people would find them to be overrated.
As a young woman, I absolutely adore Miyazaki’s work for inspiring the woman I am today for all the female main characters he brought to life. Might not appeal to men but it’s truly legendary
And they are all age appropriate and not sexualized.
I think they influence both men and women but I agree it’s great to see such fantastic, strong, none sexualised anime female leads. Some of Miyazaki’s criticisms towards the industry are completely valid imo. A lot of the sexual stuff in anime makes me cringe these days
I would like to disagree and I think that riding a wolf is unisexually inspiring. (Ashitaka was a badass too, but I'd take a giant wolf over some elk thing any day)
Ah, yes, let's bring gender into this.
@@harishpatil5055 It's a valid point, people mentioning gender in Ghibli movies are not without reason. There are rarely female main protagonist like those in Ghibli movies, they're so unique in their time it's hard not to notice it.
Joey: **calls the wind rises mid**
Garnt: **says he hates ghibli**
Aight imma head out.
They're living up to their name 'Trash Taste'
Yeah the Wind Rises was mid though. Although it had great emotional moments, the story was overall predictable and I cannot remember a character other than the main couple.
This Video was them shitting on Miazaki for 10 Minutes without being critical of his work
This Video was them shitting on Miazaki for 10 Minutes without being critical of his work
@@FilonisHat nahhh, I remember Mr. Caproni, honjo and kayo, man
@@FilonisHat but the movie is based on a true story...
I do find Ghibli films boring. There are a lot of people in the comments insulting them. It's there fucking opinion. Chill!!!!!!
You guys have no argument aside from "I was bored."
I'm gonna pretend you didn't say that.
Did Garnt really say he doesn't like Ghibli because he doesn't like Disney?? I can't...
Not all people have the same tastes as you people heck people have opinions to
@@T07fu It's a, say it with me, JOKE
@@lightning_gio he has such a weeb mindset lol
@@T07fu r/wooosh
whisper of the heart still hits different as an adult tho
my fav slice of life story
I love that movie so much, it makes me think of lazy summer days...
I fucking love that movie
Country roads....
It’s a wholesome movie.
Honestly, I didn't know that Miyazaki can be an ass but still, I respect him as a writer and director. I love his works and there's something that makes it so nostalgic and aesthetic. Especially how he evolve the characters till the end. He's one of the few writers who "nailed" the women empowerment in their movies. But yeah, I respect your opinion if you don't like it.
Studio Ghibili movies that I really love: Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle, Grave of the Fireflies and The Wind Rises. Honorable Mention: Arriety, From Up on Poppy Hill and Kiki's Delivery Service.
No Mononoke on that list 😢
You can still like someones work and think the person has a bad personality. I really enjoy allot if his movies. Heck i cried at Disney movies and he’s been accused of being a nazi and a racist, though i will say those were probably propaganda, but when i believed he was i still enjoyed them. And there are other examples.
Garnt: Ghibli movies are shit
Then proceeds to watch his 315th isekai anime.
I've unfortunately started to dislike anime. Alot are derivative and just shit all around.
Regardless of your stance on Ghibli movies, you have to admire just how beautiful and rich the worlds are. I mean, even Dunkey likes Ghibli, and he hates anime.
@UCaLpMJiYKsE6oEJyb7bhW4Q th-cam.com/video/lG2dXobAXLI/w-d-xo.html Skip to 1:32
well yeah, but style doesnt make a movie. and ghibli is just too shallow in tha tmatter
imagine going to Dunkey for legitimacy...
Because they arent like anime
Has a more western feel to it
Tbh he was right about persona 5 having great turn based combat
_"You're not just wrong, you're stupid as well."_ - Cat in the Hat
Edit: K some of you guys are taking this comment way too seriously (the same way some of you take the trash taste bullshit drama way too seriously). In the same way a lot of the jokes and shit takes are lightheartedly stated in trash taste, this is as well. I like ghibli movies but im not a diehard miyazaki acolyte. For fucks sake...
??? Who's wrong and stupid???
Bro u need help
@@Neo-jk1yx Yesterdays news
Cracking up over here
“And yer ugly, just like yer mum” - cat in the hat
Anime isn’t a style, it is simply Japanese animation.
Fast food vs Slow food. The problem stems from these guys binging tons of anime with their seasonal anime, consuming anime like fast food ( junk food) making them more impatient, insensitive to subtleness and detail but craving for more flashy/violent or sexual stimulation.
Same phenomenon can be observed from excessive games and porn and fast (sweet) food, your endolphin and dopamin threshold gets much higher, resulting in feeling bored and impatient while doing very calm and subtle activities. (like watching Ghibli).
Nah , it's just the only movies you can follow , i bet everything else goes way too fast for you
@@davidegaruti2582
good aggro to a person who basically also watch tons of shonen, seinen, action movies. really suits your nickname
Hey hey heeey... I'm at their age, addicted to porn and fast food. But I fucking love Ghibli Movies, Azumamga Daioh, Yotsuba, and many other slice of life mangas and anime.
Don't smear the reputations of porn addicts by comparing us to these heretics callim themselves Trash Taste. We have standards and when a good stuff becomes mainstream, we don't hate it to be edgy.
step down from that psychology arm chair sir because you haven't put any source to back up your statement.
Miyazaki salt intensifies...
M'lord *tips hat*
Even the ocean contains less salt than Miyazaki
As if we hadn't got enough Miyazaki salt from DS3 :v
We met again, mate ( ･ω･)☞
*Anime was a mistake intensifies*
The name of the podcast is really starting to make sense now
Yea...
As someone who grew up only watching films from Disney/Pixar and Dreamworks I have to say Ghibli is by far the best animation studio out there. I discovered it about 2 years ago at the age of 17 and it was mindboggling to me how much better movies can be even though they seem like they're made for children. Ghibli are just fantastic at making films that feel like an adventure you'd experience to then wake up and let it slide to edge of your mind like a beautiful dream. I accept that many low paced movies of theirs seem too boring and uninteresting to enjoy for some people, but they're definetely worth a watch regardless
si chiama cinema giapponese fuziona
A summary of this episode could just be that Ghibli movies aren't overrated, these guys just don't like them.
i love these guys, but their taste is literally a 50/50 for me. I agree on some things 100% or disagree 100%. But all love, at the end of the day everyone has certain opinions
its named trash taste what do u expect
It's just trash taste...what else can we say about it ?
Regarding Miyazaki going out from the cinema, i just read a comment that explain it.
See this is taken out of context of the documentary itself to be frank. When the production of Earth Sea was green lit due to Ghibli getting the rights for adaption of the Earthsea novel, Goro wasn’t helming as director but another younger staff in the studio. It didn’t pan out and the production needed a director, so Suzuki, the producer of Ghibli put out the notion of Goro directing the film to Miyazaki. Which Miyazaki was fully against. Now his reasoning behind his opposition to Suzuki’s idea is more than valid and reasonable.
First, Goro hasn’t even worked within the industry, he’s a civil engineer and landscape artist. Second, Goro becoming director is using Miyazaki’s name to bypass every rung of the production which paints this action to be highly fucked up industry wise and a big fuck you to people who are within the industry working their asses off to be even considered a directorial position. Third, Miyazaki was one of those grass roots type of person who worked throughout his youth to be in the position he is, and yes experience does matter in how you are able to direct due to knowing each level of the production pipeline. I mean take a fucking minute to put yourself in the shoes of people working in the industry, some no experience man comes walking into your field without prior experience and is put in a position above you just because his father is one of the industry big name. Really it wouldn’t sit well with anyone.
At this point ghibli was a prime center of attention in Japan where you had media attention in you 24/7, parading the studio to even rival Disney as a studio. Suzuki probably thought this was a prime moment to helm an heir for Miyazaki, and roped in Goro for such position. During this time Ghibli has been having issues of raising their staff and finding a director that could replace Miyazaki, but there were many unfortunate incidents where young and talented directors passed away from health complications.
Even through out the production of Earthsea, you see many problems that arise from Goro’s I experience of directing and managing a production and if you have seen the movie it’s very apparent. You see that there are scenes that resembles Miyazaki’s prior works in film and also his work for televisions. It was a hodgepodge, a scrap book of Miyazaki’s works, this is why he was apposed to Goro directing the film. Now you know Japanese males of Miyazaki’s generation are workaholics and extremely strict. That’s just how they were like, I’m sorry to be blunt but yeah they’re are fucking assholes and abusive and distant in today’s standards.
The reason why Goro didn’t pursue the industry was that reason, he didn’t want to tread in his fathers footsteps. And Suzuki kind of screwed with both Miyazaki’s and Goro’s own decision. At the time, I honestly really didn’t like Suzuki’s actions and really gave me a bad impression of him. Though after the failure of this film, Goro and Miyazaki have worked together on Poppyhill and you can see that they had conflicts within the production but somehow managed to work together especially with the Touhoku earthquake of 311 impacting Japan as a whole.
Goro did manage a television series as a director with Polygon Picture for Ronja, the Robber’s Daughter. Which was a joint with studio Ghibli and Polygon, but was majority done independent from studio Ghibli. He is actually taking the steps to learn and gain experience, but in my opinion... still fucked up to animators who dreams to become a director and you all know how shitty their work standards and pay is... so yeah... whole situation was fucked to begin with man...
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hmm yeah that does give A LOT more context than "Miyazaki was just an asshole who walked out of his own son's film", it shows the complexities within the industry and his disfavor towards the nepotism but also how Suzuki sort of urged it forward anyways. Thanks for explaining it
This needs to be up voted more.
use paragraphs please.
jesus.. do people read this shit?
just wanna say we appreciate this info dump, but please include a tldr or perhaps paragraphs so people would be deceived into thinking it isn't a km long ?
Just the fact that the middle guy is wearing an Evangelion shirt tells me enough. He ISN'T adult yet. None of them are. Because I'm guessing they still think angst, violence, and adult/sexual content constitute "good adult media". That innocence and beauty are illusions. Now, I enjoyed Evangelion. It's well-done media. But it's story is actually the one that is childish and unformed compared to most Ghibli films, in my opinion. Evangelion -- and these gentlemen -- don't think that simple hope, simple beauty, optimism, and the simple, everyday struggles of being a human have any _real_ merit or importance. They don't see exquisite beauty in the smallest moments of everyday life yet. They're too in their angsty, action-packed-movie phase. They -- and Evangelion -- think that "growing up" is recognizing that the world is hopeless and sh!t, and that no one is good or even tries to be good. I think that's an immature view of the world. Again: not truly grown up yet.
Have you ever noticed that elderly people and children appreciate the smallest moments in life, and take the time to appreciate true beauty? To linger and stare for a long time at a beautiful view, or the _miracle_ of a simple butterfly? That's what Ghibli films capture. The worldview of Ghibli films simultaneously encompasses childlike wonder, and the wisdom of the elderly. Both of which you scoff at when you're in your angsty teenage/20s phase of life. It's immature.
You think you're grown up when you "realize" that nothing matters, that the world is awful and you just have to deal with it, that innocence is an illusion, and that the beauty of small moments doesn't matter in the face of hopeless endless oblivion. But actually, a point of _maturity_ and _growth_ as a person is realizing that the wisdom of the elderly and the wonder of children are the most valuable things in life. That yes, the world can be bad, but that the way to properly live in the world is to recognize that beauty and everyday miracles are the most important things in the world. Not your angst and violence. Maturity is realizing that it really will be okay, and that it's healthy and good to "stop and smell the flowers." To live with eyes _unclouded by hate._
These boys are missing that. I hope they develop it someday.
Also, I'm not surprised the dislikes are hidden. I bet they got RATIOED for this ignorant take. 😂
Bro wrote a dissertation
@@FourFourTwo123 - That I did 😬😅
I just can’t stand when people shit on great art. Really hits a nerve with me I guess.
Aren’t dislikes hidden for every TH-cam vid
@@user-yo6ls1sb6b I believe you can choose to show them, most people don’t though
It's truly amazing how you can analyse media for so many years and still understand so little of it
Otaku tend to resent Miyazaki because he's clowned on otaku before.
@Ani Lovedogs miyazaki himself said anime is an abomination 🤣
@Ani Lovedogs how are the fans gonna like him if he trashes the things they like? Yeah he makes movies but you can visibly see he does not like making it. I dont know why but the dude is a bitter old man for no reason
@Ani Lovedogs I've literally seen otaku bitchb about how Miyazaki views them. It's definitely not just because his films isn't " their cup of tea".
@@ssj4galactus I love Miyazaki's films AND anime. People have their own opinions, Miyazaki is just a person like everyone else. He could think whatever he thinks. It doesn't bother me much.
*Best Ghibli Films to me:*
- Spirited Away
- Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind
- Grave of the Fireflies
For me it's:
- Spirited Away
- Princess Mononoke
- Grave of the Fireflies
For me it's:
-Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind
-Only Yesterday
-Whisper of the Heart
For me:
- Spirited Away
- Princess Mononoke
- Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind
This comment section has taught me that EVERYBODY sleeps on porco rosso
goddamn
for me it's every movie they madd I don't pick favorites
"This isn't anime, this is a fucking disney movie." How the hell did he come to that conclusion? It's literally anime. Not all anime has to follow the same format. If you think all anime has to be a certain way, you're pretty small minded XD
So when it does not follow the tropes, the legends, the caracters, the story beats, misses the usual anime-characters it magicly becomes an anume because japan.
That's like saying: why would you cal this chicken alfredo and not a KFC meal..... because we made it with the best and expensive ingredients and had amazing chefs prepare it i unique ways, have had people train for this, have a way better presentation and menu and we did not fry it.
@@draakgast Anime is literally animation from Japan. That's all it means XD Also, that comparison sucks! Sorry mate! Happy New Year by the way ;P
@@sushimidget840 lol, still keeping that backwards logic.
Nevermind these other that are so anime inspired they become a anime, it's just a word, if you litterally take away all the japanese things, settings and stories, then they're not anime anymore then it becomes a random cartoon.
That's kinda sad you think that lowly, but hey whatever floats your boat, but not understanding that leaving out everthing that makes an anime because aal you need is "an animation from japan" then you've never looked close at their story-structure and characters,
@@draakgast Weabooo! XD
@@draakgast It's anime not anume
Watching movies from Studio Ghibli is like an art, it's meant to be watched carefully to show how detailed it is, the work was made with passion, and it tells the respective of how Miyazaki wanted to convey it in his work
I want to have fun, if I want to see art I’d go to a fucking museum
@@jayp9158Movies and cinema is art, Art isn't made for museums. If you want to have fun go play video games, but be careful video games are also a form of art so that might scare you too
These must be some of the worst arguments I've ever heard.
"This isn't anime" LOL anime IS japanese animation, what does that even mean. My only hope for them is that they're trolling.
Theyre trolling most of the time lol thats why i dont get triggered
@@baphometwingsof666 yeah it’s just 3 boys talking shit for 2 hours
that comment he made was entirely fueled by the lack of anime tiddies in Ghibli movies and it shows lol
It has to do with the fact most Ghibli movies have the "cartoons are for children" stigma, because besides 3 movies ive seen from Ghibli, I always felt treated like a dumb kid watching them.
TBF, Miyazaki himself doesn't consider them anime, and gets offended if you do.
Tale of princess kaguya is pure art and magic.
The best farewell anime that Takahata could made
People sleep on the movie so much!
So underrated
@Qalidurut you're opinion but over their it gets better
@Qalidurut yeah, the first half was the best part
Everyone in the comments shitting on their take while I just sit here smiling that I now have allies in this hopeless war
some of the comments under here are so intense like...its ok for someone to not like ghibli movies, its not the end of the world 😭
Yeeesss
@@ennuisolar fr and its a bit funny to have people write paragraphs on how its really magical haha it reminds me of that rick and morty copy pasta lol
@@melody3629 THE HIGH IQ ONE LMAOO
@@ennuisolar YEAH lmaooo
I'm like 20 minutes trying to understand why the "it's like Disney" argument.
Why? I mean, the structure of the stories are different from Disney, the passing is different, there's no songs like Disney, there's no plot twist villains like Disney, there's so many things that make Disney movies different.
This podcast lives up to its name
(whisper) "they have trash taste"
thats how they get views (I say cynically). if they did a video saying how fab Ghibli was it wouldn't have the same number of views.
Lmao
But this was straight facts
@@redcardinalist might just be their opinion, sounds crazy ik
"Anime was a mistake"
-Kanye
excuse me
I do not ever recall him saying this. Infact Kanye is inspired by anime and likes it. So if he really said that, send a link to the source
@@noname-jp9nj that was a joke, Miyazaki said that not kanye.
@@jayasuriyas2604 even miyazaki did not say it. The original was a fake subtitle of him saying it
@Anonymous Jack He must really like Moria then, what with both reanimating corpses.
I respect you three, but this is easily your Trashiest Taste ever 😂😂😂😂😂
The whole comment section is bashing the boys for unreasonable bullshiet. Actually listen past their analogies and diction, then y'all will understand the boys make a good argument. Ghibli movie present themselves as disney-esque in their movies, and I get that, it's good in terms of visual, world depiction, and singular point of view, but it never goes beyond that. "Anime" can be very formulative and boring, but many of them have a very different and diverse formula, which Ghibli movies seem to lack.
Gigguk watches ghibli and is just like “ sooooo wait are the two people falling in love brother and sister?? Not even cousins?? This isn’t real anime!
From Up On Poppy Hill? yeah. hahahah
I think he meant it has more of a western storytelling structure
@@PlantaWho I like that movie btw. The soundtrack is amazing
It’s an anime joke lol
@@PlantaWho but they're not actual brother sister in that movie
Oh my god I’ve been saying this for years. I get why people like Ghibli, but it is infuriating that people take Miyazaki’s words as a revelation from God and use it as an argument to say anime just suck. It’s like listening to a boomer saying rap isn’t music or something.
Go to those 80s 90s anime videos and read the comments :
mOdErN aNiMe SuCks !
@@MyH3ntaiGirl I mean both modern and old animes have problems. One is attracted by cash and the other is lacking animations,drawing and colors (depends on the anime)
Miyazaki is not the only director who worked for Ghibli.
@@War_Maker yeah, but more often than not, when people refer to "Ghibli" they mainly mean the miyazaki films.
Calling Ghibli films masterpieces is a bit of stretch for me when Satoshi Kon and Masaki Yuasa films exist. Ngl Ghibli is visually appealing but that's about it for me. People worship Ghibli as if it is part of their personality, literally Boomer culture in anime.
i just love how they all agree that not all ghibli movies are good but they all like and dislike different movies overlapping in their opinions much more enjoyable to hear than someone calling every single movie a masterpiece
and this why I don't take Anitubers seriously.
I mean you guys are missing a lot of context with the whole Tales of EarthSea incident, as at the time Miyazaki was highly against having Goro direct the movie in the first place, given that at the time Goro had no directorial experience and had been a civil engineer and landscape designer. Putting Goro in charge seems like a move that happened because of the Miyazaki name, which I assume probably upset him. Goro also originally went into those things because he didn't want to follow in his father's footsteps originally. All in all what I'm trying to say is it seems like there was a lot more going on in the background there
Plus the movie was... really, really bad
Plus it was a adaptation Miyazaki himself wanted to do over two fucking decades.
And it was butchered by his own fucking son.
@@gone_tzar6493 I remember the author herself wrote like a huge ass essay criticising the movie.
Like damn.
That actually makes so much more sense
There are just some things that are bigger than anime
Ghibli movies are like Disney movies but way longer and you don't have the slightest idea what the plot is in the first 30 minutes.
Also damn, this was the first time I heard about that movie incident. Just wow.
Smooth brain
From the few I’ve seen they’re usually really convoluted.
Was this the Earthsea one? Ghibli really screwed over Ursula on that one. There's a bit more context there to Miyazaki being a d*ck.
The movie was aimed towards miyazaki and featured a scene where the son killed his father. So i can understand why he walked out
@@colinslost7833 didnt the guy's son made that movie because he was always got ignored by him?
I disagree with their take but man this is already nearing two years ago and there's more than enough time for them to have changed their opinions and a lot of these comments straight up not only just disagree with them but directly hate them over it to the point that it's just unhinged lmao
they're podcasters AND youtubers. That's like the perfect venn diagram of "guy who will NEVER EVER change his mind"
No comment is unhinged, people have the right to call them out for being dumb
Joey 2020: The Wind Rises is a good movie but it was pretty mid when I watched it.
Joey 2021: I've bever watched The Wind Rises so I can't rank it.
Yup, alright lol
I agree with them on everything about Miyazaki, but I still love his movies
same
Agreed
@Andrew Aydie Incel
@Andrew Aydie There’s being real and just a plain douchebag. His son’s movie was garbage but at least watch till the end and be honest with him behind closed doors.
@Andrew Aydie how tf is it hypocritical
Can we agree that Satoshi Kon is the best
Yes. Best ever.
mamoru oshii, though.
Absolutely
The Virgin Miyazaki vs. The Chad Satoshi Kon.
RIP Satoshi Kon
We still have Masaki Yuasa, wishing for his best of health
It’s been a year and a half and I still hate this take with a passion.
No youre overrated. Those films are a dream!
The podcast lives up to its name
FR FR
they're taking it literally
Anyone here watched “When Marnie Was There”?
yes! wmwt is my second fav ghibli movie ❤️ (spirited away is always first tho)
I fucking loved it, that movie is easily in my top three
That film moved me more than any other Ghibli film. It was amazing.
My favorite anime movie ever!
Yes it's a really good movie 👍
Bruh the most stupid take ever 😂
No intellectual input, just based on judgements.
Not gonna lie. When I hear people say Ponyo is mid I seriously question their judgement. Most underrated Ghibli film by far.
@@finndash4408 Ponyo is FILLED with THE best animated action of any film, it's just not fighting.
Ponyo and Porco are SLEEPER ghibli hits
Ah yes, Ponyo, Ghibli's Little Mermaid
Dude agreed, perhaps it's because I grew up watching ponyo but man, that movie is just so incredible
true! Ponyo is a masterpiece
As an animator, I bow down to the Ghilbi Artists/team of artist that went under Miyazaki. I can bet they're underpaid and intoxicated but, the fruit is memorable and to be proud for. The music of Joe Hisaishi too is the ultimate touch with these handmade frames (earlier movies). So I can't just plainly say.. the movie is overrated because of the personality of the creator.
Regardless, Miyazaki is too strict and movies are memorable :)
Miyazaki is strict not only to his son, but also to himself. He said he never watched a movue of his twice, because he feels he could do better. And I think his hard work really shows, along with everyone else that works there
@@saaramohamed8921 Miyazaki is the kind of strict that you'll put up with because he is strict to everyone and himself
Honestly he probably pays his staff better than most heads of animation studios.
Bruh they have like children's playground near studio for workers kids. I REALLY doubt they are like big greedy corporations
I heard people at studio ghibi make a lot.
let’s not forget that hayao is extremely sexist and thinks that women aren’t capable of being creative enough hence why he will never allow a woman to be a lead director on a ghibli movie
Just came to dislike. Enjoy your trip.
"How could you say something so controversial yet so brave"?
Yet so wrong...
@@dad5draco yet so true
@@dad5draco yet true
@@dad5draco yet so so so trueee
What's so true they didn't even have a logical argument lol
I’m reminded of the time that Miyazaki was doing an interview alongside Hideaki Anno. Of course Miyazaki decides he wants a smoke during the interview, and you can clearly see both the smoke trail from the cigarette and the smoke Miyazaki blows out going into Anno’s face.
And of course Miyazaki did not give a single shit.
He really did that? That’s so disrespectful...
They both are low key friends , with both of them praising each other from time to time.
@@sureshshukla2476 Why I'm I not surprised that they are friends. They both are very critical to the anime community . Anno straight up tells you your a piece a shit in the middle of the movie and Miyazaki makes movies that seem to be incredibly unappealing to the average anime fan. When I recommended some Ghibli movies to my friends who were into anime, they thought they were boring. When I showed them to my friends who didn't like anime, they all loved them. Especially Spirited Away, and Kiki's Delivery service.
@@sureshshukla2476 Yeah they really are close friend, Anno even voiced the main character in Miyazaki's Kaze Tachinu
@@hermannthefisherman2960 yeah Anno is probably the only "Otaku" Miyazaki likes.
Good shit , I love both of them.
Oh boy. The only time where Trash Taste literally really meant the name about their take lol
Lmao this video really triggered miyazaki cult😂
I am a fan of Totoro and the idea of a “cult” centred around Miyazaki frightens me
cult? brother in christ noone is wrong here they said ghibili is overrated but literally only talk about miyazaki being an asshole
I mean that lupin3rd castle of cagliostro is a movie i can never hate
That was made at TMS Entertainment.
Same.
God I love that movie
That honestly is Miyazaki's best film.
It was a fun movie.
I think this is what happens when you overdose yourself with anime. These guys practically watch anime for a living and of course things would get stale overtime.
That said, coming from a casual watcher of any media, Ghibli never disappoints imo.
^^^ I completely agree with this. It's all about intaking anime selectively
@@weatherrrrrrrr Now that you say that I remember some videos where they were looking at other folks MAL and would be critical if someone hadn’t watched enough bad shows because you need that to really understand anime.
I don’t have time for the good shows I want to watch the hell I am wasting my time with bad stuff or even mid.
No way..
It's refreshing on it's own.
It's just the same tasteless people who will hype up anything in weekly shonen jump and say uh so Ghibli is boring
Yeah man, its almost like watching anime is their job or something
You're casual 😂
This is the first time I think they’ve genuinely upset people, judging by these comments. Don’t mess with people’s childhood entertainment lol
Damn. Ghibli simps are running rampant here.
now THIS is a trash take that makes this podcast live up to its name !
"You should hydrate right now"
- drink water
You fool, I already rehydrated before reading this comment
Nice hydration King.
On it, brah. Good looking out.
thx for reminding me!!!
I literally cannot take these men seriously. Every detail completely flew over their heads. The guy in the middle was so pressured to hate Ghibli, like he seemed like he actually watched the movies and enjoyed them but those other two guys with terrible preferences/taste had to but in. Please do not compare Ghibli to Disney, *Disney is actual trash.* And Hayao Miyazaki isn't a complete asshole, it seems like they did not get the situation and/or context of what happened. Glad to see people in the comments who have common sense. (And adults can watch kid shows, you guys act like kids anyways so there shouldn't be a problem.)
This
Not he didn't. The fact you commenting this without knowing who are they is just weird. what context do need to explain that he seems like an asshole when he left out the theater in the middle his son's first movie and said "he is not an adult yet" in front of the camera?
@@debuffedhuman982 Yeah, that was a pretty shitty thing to do but it was layered.
Lmao
It’s funny watching so many people argue about Ghibli films. One side worships and the other loathes. It’s like experiencing modern American politics. Everyone refuses to find common ground on anything.
because we're simply talking about masterpieces, so there's no need to find a common ground with those who don't like them
Have to disagree
Bruh, I mean other than Princess Mononoke and Nausaca Valley of the Wind, I didn't like the other movies, but to say they are overrated is truly some Trash Taste.
Well, everyone calls them perfect, these guys said they have flaws, so they are saying it's overrated, seems legit to me...
They said it’s overstated witch is true, but they didn’t say there necessarily bad. I mean we still talking about a lot of movies witch lots of them are old and the story is meh.
The thing is any ordinary people who don't watch anime would relate to ghibili films it's more than an anime itself. Film critics praise most of it but show them your typical attack on titan, one piece, naruto etc. they would trash it.
Something being overrated has more to do with the audience's attitude towards it rather than the actual thing itself
Jesse Hartenberg “people say they’re all perfect” you’re making a strawman lol what a trash argument
saying that Ghibli is like Disney is the worst take i have ever heard in my entire life.
its one thing when you dont like it, but you have to be somewhat self-aware to understand that Miyazaki's work is just not for you and its not bad lol
"Ghibli is too much like disney"
Yea im also looking forward to the next sequel/reboot
I dont know grave of the fireflies is still the best animated movie ever for me. But that one is not directed by myazaki.
For me, the best Ghibli films are the ones not directed by Miyazaki.
@@KJRA2009 if you talking about Takahata then ain't no surprised,he was the mentor of Miyazaki and got more guts than him
@@joiboya Yes, I definitely prefer Takahata's films over Miyazaki.
@@KJRA2009 same here
And people overrating Miyazaki's movies till death are nothing but victims of bandwagon effect
Such a sad state
@@KJRA2009 I sort of agree. Especially Only yesterday, The Tale of princess Kaguya and Grave of the fireflies are better when thinking about the emotional level. (I haven't resonated with other Ghibli movie as much as with Only yesterday.) I also really like some other movies not directed by Miyazaki, especially When Marnie was there and Whisper of the heart. It's really sad that almost everyone just hypes Miyazaki, cause there's so many other great movies too.