Maybe in low to mid ranks where genjis make worse engagements and have worse aim. Genji can deflect orb and out damage moira. Lucio can save a teammate with boop and speed, and his ult counters blade making him much better than Moira overall.
@@Evelaraevia It's not even the orb that counters genji, it's the succ. Even a good Genji must disengage often and usually low HP and a right-click cleans him up better than any other support.
My most played dps is genji, and support is moira, as genji i have never had a problem with lucio, might be one of the easier supports to pick, moira on the other hand can chase you down with a primary fire you cant evade, a fade that covers more ground than a swift strike, and an orb that can be used as dmg agains you or to heal the damage you did to her. Not to mention the difference in hitboxes from lucio to moira like shooting at a frog and a tree branch. Also i use mcree to counter moira, not the pther way around
Ive had a lot of success beating bastion as Doomfist. (Especially in turret form) You move around enough to make you hard to hit, and hit hitbox is wide enough to easily connect all your pellets. His turret form will charge you immediately allowing you to get another quick punch in.
Or a sombra if their torb has really good turret placements to behind their line hack turret and then blast torb or if you can los turret hack torb virus and blast em
I agree with most of these except for Rein into Mccree . If Cree has his roll available then Rein is the easiest target for his "fan the hammer " ability . You can die as rein before even swinging once at him
@@zoppletee5400 fan the hammer roll fan the hammer takes 2 sec and deals 600 dmg my guy . You can close the distance and melt him before he even hits you . Unless you are a rein playing against golds or bronzes
I feel like Kiriko would be a better pick against Ashe and Sombra. For Ashe, it's because Kiriko can get easy headshots on her due to her large head hitbox and tendency to be in scoped mode which makes her easier to hit, also her protection suzu can cleanse her and her teammates from her dynamite. And for Sombra, Kiriko is generally way harder to deal with her wall climb & swift step and smaller hitbox. Not to mention her protection suzu can get rid of her hack debuff, and she can even potentially shut down her entire EMP with a single suzu if her team is co-ordinated enough. Although Brig can definitely annoy Sombra, I feel like her overall damage is too low to consistently deal with her. Kiriko can actually deal a lot of damage to Sombra and even kill her with good enough aim. Seriously, I've seen some Kiri's absolutely ruin Sombra's day.
Brigitte doesn’t annoy sombrero, she makes it impossible for her to kill teammate back-liners. Brigitte’s job isn’t really to kill enemies anyways. Kiriko is great too though.
@blazenflakes7251 Kiriko does that as well, better infact. She can quickly swift step to her teammate and cleanse their hack debuff and top them off. She also does more single target healing than Brig as well. I've literally never seen anyone switch to Brig to counter Sombra in a game, I have seen it with Kiri though, and she almost always makes the Sombra player either switch or play more defensively. You're never gonna convince me Brig is a better counter to Sombra than Kiri. Kiri's cleanse was literally made to counter debuffs like Sombras.
@@toysouldier1as a Kiriko main I absolutely agree with you. Being able to fend off Sombra, Tracer and Genji are the main reasons I picked Kiriko up. If you good aim as Kiri you are absolute issue for an aggressive flanker.
Honestly I’m loving torb this season I got 50 hours on him alone his damage drop off seems near non existent meaning I can play super range with max damage (almost I believe there’s a lil) his right click hits any tank hard his buff where he gets dmg speed hp reload speed firing speed etc is just broken his ult is good for ANY game mode if you play for objective and not kills his turret is actually way better than most TV realize you place is well it does a fuck ton of damage I hide behind it to heal sometimes gets them in focused off your team mates and on to your turret to heal the team while they deal with that idk torb just really really strong rn and the only counter I’ve really found is genji (if they good) zarya if they have a brain and a Winston with a. Brain and a sigma who doesn’t destroy turret and runs up and absorbs your damage is a huge counter
Something funny as brig if the enemy tracer is on their A game is hitting one base attack then shield bashing and whipshotting. Easy to dodge as tracer assuming good timing and not just blinking backwards and still getting whipped. However, if everything hits the tracer is just gone which is some insane value.
I feel a lot of these counters only apply at high ranks like masters and gm. The vast majority of players are silver and gold so telling people to go window into ashe is just bad advice.
My dps is lucio and it can easly counter genji and reaper ult and can do some good dmg to bastion and moira since your hp regen cal easly counter moiras dps and you have wall jump to dodge bastion hits
yes, some counters were not on point, like winton and zarya ar both good genji counters, but zarya a bit more cause of bubbles, also sym is harder to deal with than torb, cause you can easily poke torb turrets and he is a really big target, not too hard to kill
Tbh bastion and genji and Reinhardt are the most played hero's we have encountered. Tbh bastion is so easy spamming his artillery fire. Not hate or animosity between us he just not good to use cause of beginners he's is too broken
the best tank counter for widow isnt winston, its ball. widow is the most free kill in the game for a ball. You flank so they dont see you coming, slam and shoot a couple of bullets and shes dead before any team can peel for her.
Your videos these days are really good stuff. If you could just talk about 5% faster? That way when I throw on the CC and set the speed to 75% you won't sound drunk? 😂
@Jesse that only works in low elo, in any rank above diamond the reins shield wont even last until he's close to the bastion, and if it does, either the rein gets slept, rocked, anti'ed, punched, hooked, echo lasered, graved, fluxed, speared and hacked or the bastion gets immortality, suzu'ed, bubbled, rez'ed, life gripped, or just inta healed after taking the damage. Rein is useless without his shield and bastion absolutely obliterates that only defense
bro somb can hack dva during combat then she'll be just like rein without sheild hackin the turret then attackin torb is a strong point to her somb is litterally a bridg counter just hacl her and she is no where safe id say your list us tis weak mate
Moria is a much better counter to genji than Lucio.
For real the same thing I said as a Moira/support main. Genji is what I like to call "Moira Food". Just too easy lol
Faxx. Genji can do nothing against Moira. I hate her lol
Maybe in low to mid ranks where genjis make worse engagements and have worse aim. Genji can deflect orb and out damage moira. Lucio can save a teammate with boop and speed, and his ult counters blade making him much better than Moira overall.
@@Evelaraevia It's not even the orb that counters genji, it's the succ. Even a good Genji must disengage often and usually low HP and a right-click cleans him up better than any other support.
@@youngtiteakachamp Agreed - I love making Genji swap because they can't successfully disengage because the right click is too strong.
My most played dps is genji, and support is moira, as genji i have never had a problem with lucio, might be one of the easier supports to pick, moira on the other hand can chase you down with a primary fire you cant evade, a fade that covers more ground than a swift strike, and an orb that can be used as dmg agains you or to heal the damage you did to her. Not to mention the difference in hitboxes from lucio to moira like shooting at a frog and a tree branch. Also i use mcree to counter moira, not the pther way around
Ive had a lot of success beating bastion as Doomfist. (Especially in turret form)
You move around enough to make you hard to hit, and hit hitbox is wide enough to easily connect all your pellets. His turret form will charge you immediately allowing you to get another quick punch in.
Reaper is a pretty good counter to torb due to his short chunky hit box which absorbs maximum bullets
Or a sombra if their torb has really good turret placements to behind their line hack turret and then blast torb or if you can los turret hack torb virus and blast em
I agree with most of these except for Rein into Mccree . If Cree has his roll available then Rein is the easiest target for his "fan the hammer " ability . You can die as rein before even swinging once at him
Rein is great against Cass.
@@zoppletee5400 fan the hammer roll fan the hammer takes 2 sec and deals 600 dmg my guy . You can close the distance and melt him before he even hits you . Unless you are a rein playing against golds or bronzes
Charge the cass aggressively, he cant roll himself out of your range if you full send it on him
What a great video covering all the roles!
I love how every rival duo counters one another, like how Ashe counters Cassidy, or Genji counters Hanzo
as a genji main i didn’t even know you could deflect moira orb
I PERSONALLY use Moira when genji is on the enemy team. He cant deflect you sucking his soul😂
I feel like Kiriko would be a better pick against Ashe and Sombra.
For Ashe, it's because Kiriko can get easy headshots on her due to her large head hitbox and tendency to be in scoped mode which makes her easier to hit, also her protection suzu can cleanse her and her teammates from her dynamite.
And for Sombra, Kiriko is generally way harder to deal with her wall climb & swift step and smaller hitbox. Not to mention her protection suzu can get rid of her hack debuff, and she can even potentially shut down her entire EMP with a single suzu if her team is co-ordinated enough. Although Brig can definitely annoy Sombra, I feel like her overall damage is too low to consistently deal with her. Kiriko can actually deal a lot of damage to Sombra and even kill her with good enough aim. Seriously, I've seen some Kiri's absolutely ruin Sombra's day.
Brigitte doesn’t annoy sombrero, she makes it impossible for her to kill teammate back-liners. Brigitte’s job isn’t really to kill enemies anyways. Kiriko is great too though.
@blazenflakes7251 Kiriko does that as well, better infact. She can quickly swift step to her teammate and cleanse their hack debuff and top them off. She also does more single target healing than Brig as well. I've literally never seen anyone switch to Brig to counter Sombra in a game, I have seen it with Kiri though, and she almost always makes the Sombra player either switch or play more defensively. You're never gonna convince me Brig is a better counter to Sombra than Kiri. Kiri's cleanse was literally made to counter debuffs like Sombras.
@@toysouldier1as a Kiriko main I absolutely agree with you. Being able to fend off Sombra, Tracer and Genji are the main reasons I picked Kiriko up. If you good aim as Kiri you are absolute issue for an aggressive flanker.
Torb is a better pick to go against Tracer because well placed turrets forces out her cooldowns.
One more thing with brig and sombra is that if you have a good enough reaction time you can block incoming hacks with your shield
sombra is literally THE counter for widow i always get her 😭😭
Dva Sombra Winston and reaper are the goats
My go to DPS is Tobjorn, he is just fun, good at close range, good at mid range , turret is a good counter to dive dps
I'm a torn main too
That tracer clip with kisune rush tho.
Thats a damn lota bullets
Junkrat: everyone
Is there allready a video out that explains the opposite: which hero NOT to play against every hero ? Could be great for bwginners
Gameleap: 2+0=4
Honestly I’m loving torb this season I got 50 hours on him alone his damage drop off seems near non existent meaning I can play super range with max damage (almost I believe there’s a lil) his right click hits any tank hard his buff where he gets dmg speed hp reload speed firing speed etc is just broken his ult is good for ANY game mode if you play for objective and not kills his turret is actually way better than most TV realize you place is well it does a fuck ton of damage I hide behind it to heal sometimes gets them in focused off your team mates and on to your turret to heal the team while they deal with that idk torb just really really strong rn and the only counter I’ve really found is genji (if they good) zarya if they have a brain and a Winston with a. Brain and a sigma who doesn’t destroy turret and runs up and absorbs your damage is a huge counter
Something funny as brig if the enemy tracer is on their A game is hitting one base attack then shield bashing and whipshotting. Easy to dodge as tracer assuming good timing and not just blinking backwards and still getting whipped. However, if everything hits the tracer is just gone which is some insane value.
*is not on their A game
Echo is way better a counter than genji to widow in my experience
Can't Sombra also be a counter to Tracer? Because when Tracer is hacked, she can't use her mobility and with 150 health she's very vulnerable.
The thing is sombra gun has too muc spread and can’t really confirm a kill in time
Ofc now sombra can kill tracer easily cause sombra rework
I feel a lot of these counters only apply at high ranks like masters and gm. The vast majority of players are silver and gold so telling people to go window into ashe is just bad advice.
Thank you for always making good videos 👍
How is the aimbot turret character the counter against genji I would’ve said mei or Pharah since he can’t deflect primary damage or splash damage
Hey what’s your soldier recticle settings?
My dps is lucio and it can easly counter genji and reaper ult and can do some good dmg to bastion and moira since your hp regen cal easly counter moiras dps and you have wall jump to dodge bastion hits
Thats kind of funny, i main sojourn and every single hero you mentioned in my eyes are actually the easiest to melt and not counters at all 😄
If I’m tank i always counter Widow with D’Va by putting pressure on her to force her either away or get the Ko
Go to DPS is Pharah. Learning Sojourn now
As a Junk main, my catchphrase when I'm playing w the bois has actually become "I HATE PHARAH"
Counters for Genji:
The support roster
The dps roster
The tank roster.
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Ive enjoyed playing soldier 76 in season 7
Is Torb not really good against tracer because of his turret?
yes, some counters were not on point, like winton and zarya ar both good genji counters, but zarya a bit more cause of bubbles, also sym is harder to deal with than torb, cause you can easily poke torb turrets and he is a really big target, not too hard to kill
i find that reaper and sombra can counter a widow pretty often
playin sombra a lot and countering torb usually.
turrets hacked and some shots for torb from behind . ez.
Tbh bastion and genji and Reinhardt are the most played hero's we have encountered. Tbh bastion is so easy spamming his artillery fire. Not hate or animosity between us he just not good to use cause of beginners he's is too broken
the best tank counter for widow isnt winston, its ball. widow is the most free kill in the game for a ball. You flank so they dont see you coming, slam and shoot a couple of bullets and shes dead before any team can peel for her.
i disagree w zarya to counter echo, my beam removes that bubble when it’s cracked almost instantaneously
My go to dps is soldier 76
I am really a fan of pharah. I love her crowd control
Genji main here
It's ppl like you...... Lol
ok
Why does the title say 4 but there’s only 3?
Is this a reupload?
Good positioning is the real counter.
What if a junkrat player knows how to one trick a pharah in the air
that doesn't seem to be relevant in your elo, there aren't many junkrats pulling off shit like that reliably
@@mowgli8945 I mean that would be a skill issue
@@Joel-nt9qcyes it is, it's yours and pharah is considered a junkrat counter to the highest lvl so
I got murdered by a junkrat 3 times like that with Pharah
@@mowgli8945 I mean I’m the one who would do that like one trick pharah in the air
Almost everyone can counter everyone but if you actually want to know but our product is what this seems to boil down to
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Can you name a single non-hitscan dps that's good vs Pharah, because not everyone has Overwatch League aim?
Pharah has a pretty large hit box even as sojurn no railgun you can hit enough small shots to make the pharah play cover and more passively
@@FunniWunni Introducing Mercy pocket! Your 3 damage has just been healed away.
@@lucky-games335echo can deny pharah from the sky
How to counter a pocketed DPS especially 76
My go to is ash and echo
I feel like no one wanna talk about moira in vids lime that
Poor Bastion, Blizzard really screwed the pooch with his rework
Moira is the best character in the game
This is one counter pick for every hero, the title is just wrong.
i use torbjorn bastion and junkrat
i think zarya is a better counter to mei than orisa is -mei main
orisa can't be affected by mei cc
Thanks for the tips! I use Reaper, Echo and Bastion in dps
sombra counters bastion in my opinion. she can hack him out of turret form
Dva is a better hanzo counter than doom
Lucio can literally counter widow in every way possible instead of mercy
Ball against sym??? 😅 ya know the turret slows you
I'm out here as a Mei OTP ❤
Your videos these days are really good stuff. If you could just talk about 5% faster? That way when I throw on the CC and set the speed to 75% you won't sound drunk? 😂
Fun fact. You won’t win every fight easily. Whoever you pick
Isnt rein much better to counter bastion?
My brother in Christ, at least in high elo, Rein is known for being countered by Bastion
@@paulopessoa6529 getting up close w shield when hes in turrent mode then pinning him seems pretty effective
@Jesse that only works in low elo, in any rank above diamond the reins shield wont even last until he's close to the bastion, and if it does, either the rein gets slept, rocked, anti'ed, punched, hooked, echo lasered, graved, fluxed, speared and hacked or the bastion gets immortality, suzu'ed, bubbled, rez'ed, life gripped, or just inta healed after taking the damage. Rein is useless without his shield and bastion absolutely obliterates that only defense
Y none of this works
1:30 McCree*
I can add a counter to widow
Your own aim.
bro somb can hack dva during combat then she'll be just like rein without sheild
hackin the turret then attackin torb is a strong point to her
somb is litterally a bridg counter just hacl her and she is no where safe
id say your list us tis weak mate
genji all day
I hope y'all know relying on counter picking makes ya trash
Down voting for messed up team colors
No soldier
or.. Ramattra counter everyone lol
why do americans say luSHio?
Everything counters genji lmao.
Ah so this is why nobody enjoys overwatch
Talking too fast! Dont like that
hes talking fine bro