Dva countered by Mei Doomfist countered by Echo Junker Queen countered by Junkrat Orisa countered by Tracer Ramattra countered by Pharah Reinhardt countered by Bastion Roadhog countered by Solider76 Sigma countered by Cassidy Winton countered by Reaper Wreaking Ball countered by Sombra Zarya countered by Sojourn Ashe countered by Widowmaker Bastion countered by Genji Cassidy countered by Ashe Echo countered by Solider76 Genji countered by Cassidy Hanzo countered by Echo Junkrat countered by Pharah Mei countered by Bastion Pharah countered by Ashe Reaper countered by Hanzo Sojourn countered by Echo Solider76 countered by Tracer Sombra countered by Torb Symmetra countered by Pharah Torb countered by Hanzo Tracer countered by Mei Widowmaker countered by Genji Ana countered by Widowmaker Baptiste countered by Sojourn Brigitte countered by Junkrat Kiriko countered by Ashe Lucio countered by Sombra Mercy countered by Solider76 Moira countered by Torb Zenyatta countered by Tracer Your welcome ❤
@@UnitA__ i still not agree, because Soj will give gun charge by trying to charge her railgun (don't talk about that the railgun is clearly visible when it have a lot of charge)
Open que is so broken right now. I played with a friend who was in plat in ow1 now he’s silver in every role except he’s master in open que and I absolutely wreck him. Open que is causing players to forget how to play role.
Went against a team like that a few weeks ago.. Mostly all shields and I think maybe 2 healers and one was brig so they could have another shield. They rolled us.
I actually think that sym is a great sigma counter. You build charge of shield, and go through his succ so his only defensive option against you is really just killing you which can be hard if you pressure him with another dps or your tank. AND your turrets go through his shield, allowing extra dps on him even if you dont have charge.
@@FunniWunni as a Mei/Sombra player, im sorry. But smart players wont just spam hack the tank as sombra they will just destroy your backline due your lack of mobilityx
If you need to counter Pharah but suck at playing hitscan characters, (I'm terrible at playing Ashe or Soldier 76 😂) pick Echo. When you see Pharah use the Jump Jet, immediately use Flight to get close, and you can easily kill Pharah with Sticky Bomb + Focusing Beam.
in OW1 I found Hanzo to be the best Bastion counter. While in turret form you could one clip him with storm arrows or force him out of position with short peaks and arrows.
It's the same now as long as he isn't being healed and is say more than five metres away from cover. I can keep bastion shut down as long as I pursue good positions
I would argue that Kiriko counters ashe. Out ranges headshots (with no movement speed reduction), cleanses dynamite (easily best ashe ability), and can easily dive and catch her off guard.
9:50 To counter Sojourn. The counter is echo.... there really isn't any counter though, so I would just play what ever you want to have what little fun a sojourn in your game can provide allow you to have.
As a sojourn main when It comes to dps I believe she is a major counter to mei, as soon as mei goes in her little healing block I always throw a disruption orb on her right before she gets out so she starts taking damage immediately and makes her a really easy spray down 👍👍
I found symmetra to be a great counter for genji, her primary fire cannot be deflected, and setting up defensive turrets are great bonus damage if he does get close, and also deterrent in general for him to push into you
Symmettra is a big counter for alot of characters. Wish she was mentioned more. As a main I can Def encourage her play into many different comps and for quite a few different counters.
As much as I HATE Symmetra (mainly because the ones playing her are the first to go “ez”) you’re right. She’s great with a lot of comps and forces the enemy team to play a bit differently. She’s also ready on flank. I’d love her if her turrets didn’t melt straight through my entire team while we’re forced to beat up Winton
As a brig main, I think that pharah counters her better than junk, because u cant hit her at all and your shield get destroyed really fast by her rockets. When you play brig against pharah u just wanna run away and avoid open spaces
I play brig a lot and honestly both feel like a super uphill battle to play against, the odds of you dying against random splash damage against both is pretty high and even though you teeeechnically can approach junk rat for a fight if you get into that melee range odds are he’ll just burst you down instantly
For pharah I honestly wouldn’t recommend Ashe as much as the other hitscans bc as someone who plays Ashe often, pharah can just dive u and get in your face to get a quick kill especially on close-quarters maps like Nepal. Cass is probably the best counter to her overall but it’s generally a map specific matchup
Symmetra, I've found is really good against Reinhardt and Brigitte because she can farm a level three beam off of their shields and then just annihilate them.
I'll add that I personally find symmetra to be a really good versus sigma too. You can use his shield to charge up your beam relatively safely and surprise him with a fully charge beam (plus, he cannot absorb it!) You can either use your turret to slow him down even more or you can use them to protect/distract the enemy dps players bonus tip: sometimes, you can put a teleport near the enemy dps/supports to trick them into shooting it. it can be just distracting enough to setup your turret or to finish chasing the tank. Just remember to call it to your team so they know it's not a good teleport to use (some people will see a teleport and use it without even checking where it goes, which is not great when you end up in the middle of a fight xD)
Also genji. Ninja boi's number one move is to dive behind the tank, take out a healer or problematic DPS, and back out with his deflect. Syms turrets slow him down and syms beam goes right through deflect to confirm the kill. Just play a little more support help and you won't have a genji problem anymore.
I think Junkrat is also a good pick for countering Mei. Mines in particular can launch you out of her ult, and you can leave traps and mines around her when she retreats into her ice block.
One interesting thing though is that mei can free herself and allies from junkrat traps using her ice wall, if she lifts a trapped target up on top of a wall it will instantly break the trap. overall though as someone who plays mei a lot yeah id agree, junkrat can be hard to play against because his burst damage is so high that a lot of times he can pseudo one shot you before you can react with ice block
Genji onetrick, if you’re gonna counter a genji, I don’t recommend cass, in higher elo genji’s use deflect reactively and if there’s a cass, he gets priority, just counter with mei, I would say sym but she’s pretty squishy
@@germanluque9756 no lol, she and her 2 dmg per second is shit, its just really good at finishing off targets, horse-shit 25 meters, the only time I'd say moira vs genji would ever end up with a moira win is if the genji was already at like 110 hp or lower
Soujourn I found works really good against ball. You wait until they commit to the second dive then as soon as they drop in you railgun crit. Immediately puts him at half and while he tries to run you charge and get another railgun off. Even if you don't kill it's an easy way to turn for your team that leaves the enemy with a scared tank.
You’re wrong about Torbs turret. Since OW2 launch, it no longer targets a hacking sombra, at all. You can stand right in front of it and hack it. Wether it’s locked on to someone or not. However Symmetra turrets will lock on to her
I agree. Having the icicle to fall back on to hide/heal also allows mei to easily land a few good long distance shots on bastion without worrying about dying.
Hanzo is a good counter for Reaper, but a better one is Soldier: 76 as he has a better range and can use sprint to run if Reaper is too close or to chase a Reaper after he uses wraith to escape. With a tracer counter, I recommend Kiriko as luck can easily 1 shot tracer, she can use cleanse to cancel bomb, and she can stall a tracer so she runs out of blinks. If times are you for Kiriko, she can teleport out.
I agree with most except for Pharah vs Sym. With smart turret placement and control of high ground with teleporter, I've never really felt the need to swap to handle a Pharah because you just take away her major advantage of being able to reach any location. Turrets are the best flank detectors in the game and they prevent all of her sneaky plays.
A good Winston can shield dance and wreck Reaper. The constant lightning damage doesn't get healed off by the time he can shoot his way through the shield and if he pops wraith then Winston can jump after him. There's a lot of factors with that, the biggest being player skill... Since he has a big head, a long range character does well against him, maybe force him to pop his shield early so he will have to lose space. Pharah or Echo are honorable mentions, but I personally never feel very threatened by reapers when I'm Monke
Mei is a hood pick against reaper- her beam will force him into wrath and allow your team to kill him or him being forced to push back and get off the flank
for a lot of tanks, reaper is a good counter pick aswell. Since with reaper you can flank easily and kill the backline or fight the tank in the frontline with the stupid ammounts of healing.
Another counter for orisa is Mei she can dodge her ult and when she looks to push in with javelin spin you can wall her off from her team and her primary fire goes through her spin
Just be aware that if Rein knows the Bastion is there and has good communication, Rein will often wait turret out then resume the push while instructing his team to find cover to preserve shield. Experienced Reins do well in team-brawls too if they can catch the Bastion out of position. Bastion is a good counter but he has to play carefully.
Master Rein here. Even waiting out his form, it's not like Bastion has have insignificant amounts of damage out of form. more or less if the Bastion forms correctly, you will not have shield or at best a 1-300 HP shield. shield recharge time and cooldown for sentry form are similar enough that if the Bastion isn't outright killing you, he's still heavily restricting your movement. particularly on the aggressive side, going for pins w/o shield OR knowing Sentry can be up within 4 seconds is a death sentence unless your healers are ready to heal that massive damage output or you have good follow up positioning in sightlines. TL:DR Rein's an amazing hero who still has counterplay against his counters, even in our best played matches Bastion heavily restricts your movement and carry potential.
As a zen main i do think that tracer is not the worst of the counters, if you actually are grouped with other teammate you can easily do 120 to tracer with discord orb and a headshot and then when she is 30 hp she can either use recall or just die , and not to mention that if you headshot her and melee her you actually oneshot her, i would say that its not a counter matchup imo its a skill matchup , i would say that against sombra is pretty much the worst tipe of matchup, she just one shots you because you had an actual only shield hp bar, a huge hitbox and a 40% more dmg boost is actually imposible to be against unless you had a bap or a zarya in your team that can actually save you
My personal recommendation for Sigma counter is Mei, He can't absorb the primary fire and it puts pressure on him to back away so you team can get a bit more aggressive.
Personally I like Mei for Hog, wall and cube both blocks hook. The icicle also does so much damage so if you can get him away from his supports he's pretty weak without cooldowns
Hanzo is a better counter to bastion than genji. Btw genjis, dont jump infront of bastions with deflect it only works in bronze. Get close range to them and dance around them spamming right click and wall jumps. Move unpredictably and make him play with 1000000 edpi. Deflect can save you but dont rely on it to kill the bastion.
For one and a half seconds dude. Better make it good. But I will agrees he's not the best. If I don't know there's a Sombra yet then she has the advantage for sure. Edit for Dannyboiiii: I think I was drunk when I wrote this. That said all I was trying to say is that a Sombra better be better than the Torb to duel him, with or without the turret.
@@AloneInTheDork First: Sombra doesn't need to go always for the kill. She disrupt, distract, draw attenzione better than any other heroes. Also because, also vs hacked opponents, her dps is not that much (about 175 dps iirc). Second: I was just pointing that saying Torb's turret stays hacked for 1,5 sec is incorrect.
Ngl Symmetra counters everything with a shield that isn’t a dive. Just stick with your team and charge your beam on the Rein/Sigma/Brig shield, and you’ve got pretty easy pickings on everyone unless there’s a really good Genji, Tracer or Widowmaker
I would argue that genji is a better counter to ana than widow - he's fast and tends to constantly be jumping around, making him hard to hit with a sleep dart or a shot from the rifle. And he can reflect sleep darts. Widow vs ana is only slightly tilted to benefit widow, since if she doesn't get a one shot kill the ana can heal and ana has just as far of a range as the widow, even if it takes ana 3 bodyshots to kill while the widow only has to land one headshot. I enjoy fighting widows as ana because it's fun. I hate dealing with genji. But I only have like 60 hours in the game, so don't take me too seriously.
Thanks I've become blind from playing to many heroes that I just didn't know how to counter apart from the obvious ones. I never would have picked Mei against Dva and played Symmetra instead or Reaper against Orisa. But I don't agree with Cassidy against Genji or Echo against Hanzo because it requires the enemy to be worse at that point you could just mirror them.
Was not cooking on the Sigma take, only bonus to picking Cassidy against a Sigma is you can use your ult when Sigma uses his. All other damage gets blocked
Ashe is great into torb, bastion, Anna, cuz lack of mobility and hit box but she really and I mean really struggles against genji kiriko for sure and potentially sombra Moira and tracer
as a reaper main, hanzo is pretty easy to get rid of. pharah is the real counter, you can only get her if she han no mercy and catch her of guard, but if you are ok with pharah and they have an reaper just fokus him and he will switch
I main sombra and I'd say sombra is a lot more of a counter to torb than he is to sombra lmao. I can literally just hack his turret every time he places it so his team gets no value from it lol.
Symmetra would be a better counter, obviously with healing. She can ramp beam on shield and put way more pressure on him. Rein vs Reaper is probably a skill based 1v1
Countering soldier with tracer as a noob tracer us hard. I mm supposed to stalk him and wait for him to use rocket and shoot at someone else and only then attack? 😬
I think the best widow counter is actually Sombra just go invis uncloak don’t hack as this will give the widow more time to react and shred her with headshots
it works if the widow is mostly alone but if there's another sniper/support, sombra will struggle to kill her fast enough sadly It really depend on the map
I’m surprised you picked Cassidy for Genji. Cassidy is really good if you bait Genji’s deflect and catch him with your stick grenade but a really good Genji would expect this. As a Genji main, Symmetra is the most annoying hero to deal with. He can’t deflect her primary and her turrets. Moira is also a good counter but good Genji players know how to counter Moira so watch out.
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As someone who plays a lot of Sombra, you definitely COULD hack Torbjorn's turret from stealth safely. That's a big advantage that wasn't mentioned.
That’s what I’m saying I actually go sombra to take care of torb actually so that confused me
But you could instantly place it back after it’s hacked
You can only do that if the turret is shooting at someone though
@@FiFiSantacruz not if you break it
@@GuineaPigLover9 False. It can be done at any time. No need for an already existing target.
Dva countered by Mei
Doomfist countered by Echo
Junker Queen countered by Junkrat
Orisa countered by Tracer
Ramattra countered by Pharah
Reinhardt countered by Bastion
Roadhog countered by Solider76
Sigma countered by Cassidy
Winton countered by Reaper
Wreaking Ball countered by Sombra
Zarya countered by Sojourn
Ashe countered by Widowmaker
Bastion countered by Genji
Cassidy countered by Ashe
Echo countered by Solider76
Genji countered by Cassidy
Hanzo countered by Echo
Junkrat countered by Pharah
Mei countered by Bastion
Pharah countered by Ashe
Reaper countered by Hanzo
Sojourn countered by Echo
Solider76 countered by Tracer
Sombra countered by Torb
Symmetra countered by Pharah
Torb countered by Hanzo
Tracer countered by Mei
Widowmaker countered by Genji
Ana countered by Widowmaker
Baptiste countered by Sojourn
Brigitte countered by Junkrat
Kiriko countered by Ashe
Lucio countered by Sombra
Mercy countered by Solider76
Moira countered by Torb
Zenyatta countered by Tracer
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Thanks a lot : O
Thank you! Now I don’t have to watch the video 😊
I don't think that Soj counter Zarya
@@IlPolloStrabico I just put what was in the video
@@UnitA__ i still not agree, because Soj will give gun charge by trying to charge her railgun (don't talk about that the railgun is clearly visible when it have a lot of charge)
As a player who likes to play open que with my friends, our counter to everything when we're losing is the 4 tanks 1 support comp
Lmao
Open que is so broken right now. I played with a friend who was in plat in ow1 now he’s silver in every role except he’s master in open que and I absolutely wreck him. Open que is causing players to forget how to play role.
Went against a team like that a few weeks ago.. Mostly all shields and I think maybe 2 healers and one was brig so they could have another shield. They rolled us.
Lol well the orginal 3 tanks 2 supports is fucking busted they can do anything unless you do the same thing
@@Rmadden727 one of the worst ow players i know is diamond in open queue 💀
I actually think that sym is a great sigma counter.
You build charge of shield, and go through his succ so his only defensive option against you is really just killing you which can be hard if you pressure him with another dps or your tank.
AND your turrets go through his shield, allowing extra dps on him even if you dont have charge.
Sym is a great counter for both sigma and genji
Sym counters all tanks tbh melts all their shields if they have one, maybe not doom counter but ygm
Sym sombra and mei for me personally mei is the worst and I main sigma
@@FunniWunni as a Mei/Sombra player, im sorry.
But smart players wont just spam hack the tank as sombra they will just destroy your backline due your lack of mobilityx
Timestamps:
hero to counter/countered by
Tank:
0:42 dva/mei
1:04 doomfist/echo
1:26 junker queen/junkrat
1:44 orisa/tracer
2:02 ramattra/pharah
2:26 reinhardt/bastion
2:51 roadhog/soldier76
3:14 sigma/cassidy
3:57 winton/reaper
4:20 wrecking ball/sombra
4:45 zarya/sojourn
Dps:
5:10 ashe/widow
5:33 bastion/genji
5:57 cassidy/ashe
6:20 echo/soldier76
6:46 genji/cassidy
7:23 hanzo/echo
7:54 junkrat/pharah
8:18 mei/bastion
8:45 pharah/ashe
9:10 reaper/hanzo
9:51 sojourn/echo
10:21 soldier/tracer
10:41 sombra/torb
11:11 symettra/pharah
11:38 hanzo/torb
11:56 tracer/mei
12:17 widow/genji
Support:
12:37 ana/widow
12:58 bap/sojourn
13:28 brig/junkrat
13:53 kiriko/ashe
14:26 lucio/sombra
14:52 mercy/soldier
15:13 moira/torb
15:42 zen/tracer
thanks 4 the video!! awesome as always guys
If you need to counter Pharah but suck at playing hitscan characters, (I'm terrible at playing Ashe or Soldier 76 😂) pick Echo. When you see Pharah use the Jump Jet, immediately use Flight to get close, and you can easily kill Pharah with Sticky Bomb + Focusing Beam.
in OW1 I found Hanzo to be the best Bastion counter. While in turret form you could one clip him with storm arrows or force him out of position with short peaks and arrows.
It's the same now as long as he isn't being healed and is say more than five metres away from cover. I can keep bastion shut down as long as I pursue good positions
Echo is also a good bastion counter if you are able to hit your lil bombs.
Yes. Bastion used to be such a free easy kill and since I was a Hanzo main. I loved seeing enemy Basitons
idk if you noticed but we are in overwatch 2 now
Also in ow2
I would argue that Kiriko counters ashe. Out ranges headshots (with no movement speed reduction), cleanses dynamite (easily best ashe ability), and can easily dive and catch her off guard.
This is a list of dps counters so that if you're queued for dps you can choose one of these to counter.
Bad Ashes yes
Ashe has the fastest sniper strafe
@@TheSearcherer Right, and the video gave Ashe as a counter to Kiriko, when really Kiriko has advantage
a good ashe wipes you off the earth if you get near her crosshairs
9:50 To counter Sojourn. The counter is echo.... there really isn't any counter though, so I would just play what ever you want to have what little fun a sojourn in your game can provide allow you to have.
As a torb main, I pretty much never lose against a genji. Turret plus overload shotgun for the win
I just love how Hammond's hitbox looks like it was made to absorb as many Reaper pellets as possible
I do that all the time and unless he is getting pocketed and I kill
As a sojourn main when It comes to dps I believe she is a major counter to mei, as soon as mei goes in her little healing block I always throw a disruption orb on her right before she gets out so she starts taking damage immediately and makes her a really easy spray down 👍👍
Symmetra into dva is pretty strong since she can’t block your damage and you can set up turrets when she’s going baby dva
Tracer can counter bastion really well because his hit box is like exactly the same as your weapon spread
and he cant escape da tracer bomb
@@gg-hc5iy just remember to get a few shots in first or after because a pulse bomb wont kill him at full health in sentry
@@kitchensnake649 ok, im not a tracer main so i dont know that sry
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Bastion is her best matchup honestly. Tracer basically CAN'T die to him.
I found symmetra to be a great counter for genji, her primary fire cannot be deflected, and setting up defensive turrets are great bonus damage if he does get close, and also deterrent in general for him to push into you
If you don't want to watch 3 videos then just read this, there will be data from 3 of them, gl:)
([how to read] Prey : hunter(heal) hunter(dps) hunter(tank))
Heals
Zenyatta: Ana . Tracer . Zenyatta
Moira: Ana . Torbjorn . Dva
Mercy: Zenyatta . Soldier 76 . Roadhog
Lucio: Moira . Sombra . Orisa
Kiriko: Zenyatta . Ashe . Winston
Brigitte: Mercy . Junkrat . Sigma
Baptiste: Ana . Soujorn . Doomfist
Ana: Kiriko . Widowmaker . Winston
Dps
Widowmaker: Lucio . Genji . Winston
Tracer: Brigitte . Mei . Dva
Torbjorn: Lucio . Hanzo . Sigma
Symmetra: Moira . Pharah . Doomfist
Sombra: Kiriko . Torbjorn . Dva
Soldier 76: Zenyatta . Tracer . Reinhardt
Sojourn: Lucio . Echo . Doomfist
Reaper: Lucio . Hanzo . Sigma
Pharah: Ana . Ashe . Dva
Mei: Kiriko . Bastion . Zarya
Jumkrat: Baptiste . Pharah . Zarya
Hanzo: Kiriko . Echo . Doomfist
Genji: Moira . Cassidy . Winston
Echo: Baptiste . Soldier 76 . Zarya
Cassidy: Kiriko . Ashe . Reinhardt
Bastion: Ana . Genji . Dva
Ashe: Mercy . Widowmaker . Sigma
Tank
Zarya: Lucio . Soujorn . Winston
Wrecking ball: Brigitte . Sombra . Roadhog
Winston: Brigitte . Reaper . Junker queen
Sigma: Zenyatta . Cassidy . Reinhardt
Roadhog: Ana . Soldier 76 . Sigma
Reinhardt: Baptiste . Bastion . Orisa
Ramattra: Lucio . Pharah . Wrecking ball
Orisa: Zenyatta . Tracer . Zarya
Junker queen: Ana . Junkrat . Roadhog
Doomfist: Moira . Echo . Orisa
Dva: Mercy . Mei . Zarya
i hope that this helped you =)
Symmettra is a big counter for alot of characters. Wish she was mentioned more. As a main I can Def encourage her play into many different comps and for quite a few different counters.
As much as I HATE Symmetra (mainly because the ones playing her are the first to go “ez”) you’re right. She’s great with a lot of comps and forces the enemy team to play a bit differently. She’s also ready on flank. I’d love her if her turrets didn’t melt straight through my entire team while we’re forced to beat up Winton
Love how symmetra was the only dps who didnt get mentioned
As a brig main, I think that pharah counters her better than junk, because u cant hit her at all and your shield get destroyed really fast by her rockets. When you play brig against pharah u just wanna run away and avoid open spaces
I play brig a lot and honestly both feel like a super uphill battle to play against, the odds of you dying against random splash damage against both is pretty high and even though you teeeechnically can approach junk rat for a fight if you get into that melee range odds are he’ll just burst you down instantly
For pharah I honestly wouldn’t recommend Ashe as much as the other hitscans bc as someone who plays Ashe often, pharah can just dive u and get in your face to get a quick kill especially on close-quarters maps like Nepal. Cass is probably the best counter to her overall but it’s generally a map specific matchup
Symmetra, I've found is really good against Reinhardt and Brigitte because she can farm a level three beam off of their shields and then just annihilate them.
I'll add that I personally find symmetra to be a really good versus sigma too.
You can use his shield to charge up your beam relatively safely and surprise him with a fully charge beam (plus, he cannot absorb it!)
You can either use your turret to slow him down even more or you can use them to protect/distract the enemy dps players
bonus tip: sometimes, you can put a teleport near the enemy dps/supports to trick them into shooting it.
it can be just distracting enough to setup your turret or to finish chasing the tank.
Just remember to call it to your team so they know it's not a good teleport to use
(some people will see a teleport and use it without even checking where it goes, which is not great when you end up in the middle of a fight xD)
She’s can also farm beam off of mei wall.
Also genji. Ninja boi's number one move is to dive behind the tank, take out a healer or problematic DPS, and back out with his deflect. Syms turrets slow him down and syms beam goes right through deflect to confirm the kill. Just play a little more support help and you won't have a genji problem anymore.
I think Junkrat is also a good pick for countering Mei. Mines in particular can launch you out of her ult, and you can leave traps and mines around her when she retreats into her ice block.
One interesting thing though is that mei can free herself and allies from junkrat traps using her ice wall, if she lifts a trapped target up on top of a wall it will instantly break the trap. overall though as someone who plays mei a lot yeah id agree, junkrat can be hard to play against because his burst damage is so high that a lot of times he can pseudo one shot you before you can react with ice block
Genji onetrick, if you’re gonna counter a genji, I don’t recommend cass, in higher elo genji’s use deflect reactively and if there’s a cass, he gets priority, just counter with mei, I would say sym but she’s pretty squishy
So a question, do you think that moira is a counter to genji?
@@germanluque9756 no lol, she and her 2 dmg per second is shit, its just really good at finishing off targets, horse-shit 25 meters, the only time I'd say moira vs genji would ever end up with a moira win is if the genji was already at like 110 hp or lower
Soujourn I found works really good against ball. You wait until they commit to the second dive then as soon as they drop in you railgun crit. Immediately puts him at half and while he tries to run you charge and get another railgun off. Even if you don't kill it's an easy way to turn for your team that leaves the enemy with a scared tank.
a well played well-timed moria. going up against most classes with a healing orb at your side makes it game over for basically anyone!
in bronze i’m sure moria is the greatest but most players can hit shots when you climb ranks😂
Sym and Mei are better Genji counters than Cree
You’re wrong about Torbs turret. Since OW2 launch, it no longer targets a hacking sombra, at all.
You can stand right in front of it and hack it. Wether it’s locked on to someone or not.
However Symmetra turrets will lock on to her
I find pharah to be a good torb counter, you two tap his turret and can always be outside his effective range
I find Mei to counter bastion not the other way around Mei can almost always wall off the bastions attack mode and if not she can icecicle out of it
I agree. Having the icicle to fall back on to hide/heal also allows mei to easily land a few good long distance shots on bastion without worrying about dying.
Hanzo is a good counter for Reaper, but a better one is Soldier: 76 as he has a better range and can use sprint to run if Reaper is too close or to chase a Reaper after he uses wraith to escape. With a tracer counter, I recommend Kiriko as luck can easily 1 shot tracer, she can use cleanse to cancel bomb, and she can stall a tracer so she runs out of blinks. If times are you for Kiriko, she can teleport out.
My counters against Genji is Zarya, Symmetra and Moira. Their beam does not reflect.
I agree with most except for Pharah vs Sym. With smart turret placement and control of high ground with teleporter, I've never really felt the need to swap to handle a Pharah because you just take away her major advantage of being able to reach any location. Turrets are the best flank detectors in the game and they prevent all of her sneaky plays.
plus people vastly underestimate spamming her right click to harass Pharahs
The little graphics they do at places like 1:56 are so useless its funny as hell
A good Winston can shield dance and wreck Reaper. The constant lightning damage doesn't get healed off by the time he can shoot his way through the shield and if he pops wraith then Winston can jump after him.
There's a lot of factors with that, the biggest being player skill...
Since he has a big head, a long range character does well against him, maybe force him to pop his shield early so he will have to lose space. Pharah or Echo are honorable mentions, but I personally never feel very threatened by reapers when I'm Monke
Trust me, Winton's large ape-a*s gets wrecked 7 times outta 10 at least by good Reapers
Mei is a hood pick against reaper- her beam will force him into wrath and allow your team to kill him or him being forced to push back and get off the flank
for a lot of tanks, reaper is a good counter pick aswell. Since with reaper you can flank easily and kill the backline or fight the tank in the frontline with the stupid ammounts of healing.
Another counter for orisa is Mei she can dodge her ult and when she looks to push in with javelin spin you can wall her off from her team and her primary fire goes through her spin
Every time I use torb there is always someone who will switch to Sombrero and "try" to spawn camp me
Just be aware that if Rein knows the Bastion is there and has good communication, Rein will often wait turret out then resume the push while instructing his team to find cover to preserve shield. Experienced Reins do well in team-brawls too if they can catch the Bastion out of position. Bastion is a good counter but he has to play carefully.
Master Rein here. Even waiting out his form, it's not like Bastion has have insignificant amounts of damage out of form. more or less if the Bastion forms correctly, you will not have shield or at best a 1-300 HP shield. shield recharge time and cooldown for sentry form are similar enough that if the Bastion isn't outright killing you, he's still heavily restricting your movement. particularly on the aggressive side, going for pins w/o shield OR knowing Sentry can be up within 4 seconds is a death sentence unless your healers are ready to heal that massive damage output or you have good follow up positioning in sightlines.
TL:DR Rein's an amazing hero who still has counterplay against his counters, even in our best played matches Bastion heavily restricts your movement and carry potential.
thoughts on junkrat v doom? Might be my low elo talking but the trap was very helpful for me. Also I've found torb helps me with soldier allot.
i hate when people immediately gos pharah when i kill them with junk like man LET ME HAVE FUN
As someone who mains orisa, if you try tracer make sure you dont get pinned by the javelin or youre screwed
As a zen main i do think that tracer is not the worst of the counters, if you actually are grouped with other teammate you can easily do 120 to tracer with discord orb and a headshot and then when she is 30 hp she can either use recall or just die , and not to mention that if you headshot her and melee her you actually oneshot her, i would say that its not a counter matchup imo its a skill matchup , i would say that against sombra is pretty much the worst tipe of matchup, she just one shots you because you had an actual only shield hp bar, a huge hitbox and a 40% more dmg boost is actually imposible to be against unless you had a bap or a zarya in your team that can actually save you
My personal recommendation for Sigma counter is Mei, He can't absorb the primary fire and it puts pressure on him to back away so you team can get a bit more aggressive.
Personally I like Mei for Hog, wall and cube both blocks hook. The icicle also does so much damage so if you can get him away from his supports he's pretty weak without cooldowns
can u add time stamps coach plz and thank you
Just a heads up for anyone who wants to play Junkrat against Brigitte. Brig can destroy your tyre by hitting it with her whipshot then shield bash
1:59 that's a Orisa vs Tracer clip?
Beam character against genji instead of cree
As a zarya player, I’ve noticed that sojourn isn’t the counter but instead Zen with discord counters Zarya
Or how about reaper lol
Hanzo is a better counter to bastion than genji.
Btw genjis, dont jump infront of bastions with deflect it only works in bronze. Get close range to them and dance around them spamming right click and wall jumps. Move unpredictably and make him play with 1000000 edpi. Deflect can save you but dont rely on it to kill the bastion.
Dude said Souljorn fro Zarya when Pharah is 1000% a better counterpick
Theres no way torbs is sombras counter, literally u can Turn his turret into a cute paperweight
For one and a half seconds dude. Better make it good. But I will agrees he's not the best. If I don't know there's a Sombra yet then she has the advantage for sure.
Edit for Dannyboiiii: I think I was drunk when I wrote this. That said all I was trying to say is that a Sombra better be better than the Torb to duel him, with or without the turret.
@@AloneInTheDork the turret stays hacked for 10 sec
@@giuseppedeluca906 so don't hack me then? Hahahaha cute with your little pepper grinder there.
@@AloneInTheDork First: Sombra doesn't need to go always for the kill. She disrupt, distract, draw attenzione better than any other heroes. Also because, also vs hacked opponents, her dps is not that much (about 175 dps iirc). Second: I was just pointing that saying Torb's turret stays hacked for 1,5 sec is incorrect.
@@giuseppedeluca906 you're looking for a debate where there isn't one
As a main sigma, Mei is the BEST counter, the ice makes damage thru both "gravity and shield", besides making sigma even slower
Ngl Symmetra counters everything with a shield that isn’t a dive. Just stick with your team and charge your beam on the Rein/Sigma/Brig shield, and you’ve got pretty easy pickings on everyone unless there’s a really good Genji, Tracer or Widowmaker
Wasn't Rammatra supposed to be a counter to flying heroes, like Pharah?
yup xD
I would argue that genji is a better counter to ana than widow - he's fast and tends to constantly be jumping around, making him hard to hit with a sleep dart or a shot from the rifle. And he can reflect sleep darts. Widow vs ana is only slightly tilted to benefit widow, since if she doesn't get a one shot kill the ana can heal and ana has just as far of a range as the widow, even if it takes ana 3 bodyshots to kill while the widow only has to land one headshot. I enjoy fighting widows as ana because it's fun. I hate dealing with genji.
But I only have like 60 hours in the game, so don't take me too seriously.
The Ball counter's all! "Deflect that, loser" "the ball is safe, the ball is kind"
Thanks I've become blind from playing to many heroes that I just didn't know how to counter apart from the obvious ones. I never would have picked Mei against Dva and played Symmetra instead or Reaper against Orisa. But I don't agree with Cassidy against Genji or Echo against Hanzo because it requires the enemy to be worse at that point you could just mirror them.
This guy sounds like he’s from Nova Scotia 😂👍
Mei is also great against wrecking ball, because if you slow him, its over for him
Reaper pretty good against bastion too
Sombra too
Sojourn not only counters every hero in the game, it counters players to make them quit overwatch
Orisa and roadhog destroys her
That counter Cassie ily via Sigma line of sight was just disrespectful lmao 😂
Was not cooking on the Sigma take, only bonus to picking Cassidy against a Sigma is you can use your ult when Sigma uses his. All other damage gets blocked
Situationally reaper isn't really a counter for Winston. He can't really keep up. Best thing he can do is keep him moving or play with his support.
Whats your settings?
Ashe is great into torb, bastion, Anna, cuz lack of mobility and hit box but she really and I mean really struggles against genji kiriko for sure and potentially sombra Moira and tracer
Idk about the Pharah for Ramatra. I pick pharahs out the sky alot with his primary
as a reaper main, hanzo is pretty easy to get rid of. pharah is the real counter, you can only get her if she han no mercy and catch her of guard, but if you are ok with pharah and they have an reaper just fokus him and he will switch
Tbh, Pharah is probably a counter to almost everyone. But at least with Reaper, you can escape her and wait when she touches the ground
@@youngty7174 yes but a good pharah wont let a reaper kill her
I've dealt with plenty of junkrats as junker queen. A better counter for sure is soujourn
It's funny that you use bastion to counter Mei, because I use Mei to counter Bastion. Turret Form "Walled off".
Doesn't work in higher elo
Honestly pharah u can use Mcree soilder Ashe and widowmaker to counter tbh
Tracer vs orisa? Idk, I get the mobility but if horse has armor tracers damage isn't gonna be great.
idk about going echo against hanzo, if the matchup allows it i'd rather go genji against him...
Any timestamps ?
Some of them only work in gold-plat, like echo/hanzo, genji/cass etc…
If u need it in text:
Tanks:
Orisa-> Tracer
Ramattra-> Pharah
Wrecking Ball-> Sombra
Reinhardt-> Bastion
D.va-> Mei
Doomfist-> Echo
Junker Queen-> Junkrat
Roadhog-> Solider:76 "far"
Sigma-> Cassidy
Winston-> Reaper "big hb"
Zayra-> Sojourn
Dmg:
Ashe-> Widowmaker
Bastion-> Genji
Cassidy-> Ashe
Echo-> Solider:76
Genji-> Cassidy
Hanzo-> Echo
Junkrat-> Pharah
Mei-> Bastion
Pharah-> Ashe
Reaper-> Hanzo
Sojourn-> Echo
Solider:76-> Tracer
Sombra-> Torbjörn
Symmetra-> Pharah
Torbjorn-> Hanzo
Tracer-> Mei
Widowmaker-> Genji
Supports:
Ana-> Widowmaker
Baptiste-> Sojourn
Brigitte-> Junkrat
Kiriko-> Ashe
Lucio-> Sombra
Mercy-> Solider:76
Moira-> Torbjorn
Zenyatta-> Tracer
Thank me Later.
"Lifeweaver Is not in the list"
O cara soltou na banca que o counter de genji é o cassidy 🤙🏻
I main sombra and I'd say sombra is a lot more of a counter to torb than he is to sombra lmao. I can literally just hack his turret every time he places it so his team gets no value from it lol.
Torbjorn is a very good pick against Kiriko imo, mostly cause of his ult
Just know genji cannot deflex echos beam. Idk too much bout what he can't deflect but that's one of the things he cant.
What about Sombra against a mercy that is flying they just drop dead
Torbs turret doesn’t detect a Sombra who is invis hacking
reaper is also a great counter for rein because of reapers passive heal
Symmetra would be a better counter, obviously with healing. She can ramp beam on shield and put way more pressure on him. Rein vs Reaper is probably a skill based 1v1
Countering soldier with tracer as a noob tracer us hard. I mm supposed to stalk him and wait for him to use rocket and shoot at someone else and only then attack? 😬
Time stamps would be very nice for th8s video
It's funny how Hanzo is a counter to Reaper but every single time I don't 1 vs 1 against a Hanzo as Reaper I always win..
I like using Mei against Rein.. Allows for an easy wall off kill if the whole team punishes him quickly
I think the best widow counter is actually Sombra just go invis uncloak don’t hack as this will give the widow more time to react and shred her with headshots
it works if the widow is mostly alone but if there's another sniper/support, sombra will struggle to kill her fast enough sadly
It really depend on the map
Reaper works amazing against roadhog as well
I usually pick junkrat or symmetra against genji
14:27 that shit was personal
How do you double GM 1 🧐
Bastion is a good counter to zarya and her bubbles
Torb is definitely a better counter to tracer than Mei -master tracer main
I’m surprised you picked Cassidy for Genji. Cassidy is really good if you bait Genji’s deflect and catch him with your stick grenade but a really good Genji would expect this. As a Genji main, Symmetra is the most annoying hero to deal with. He can’t deflect her primary and her turrets. Moira is also a good counter but good Genji players know how to counter Moira so watch out.
sorry but sojourn is not a good counter pick against zarya, that would be bastion since he can force zarya cooldowns and make it easy to kill her
I love when my Noob team mates gets sniped one time by widow and switches to widow for the rest of the game to play 1v1, dying and throwing the game