2007 BMW 525i would not start, Intelligent battery sensor IBS at fault

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  • @eightys_style6077
    @eightys_style6077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. You have my sincere appreciation. This fixed for my 2004 645Ci the high battery drain fault, and the transmission fault ( giving me only gears 1 to 3 ) . Before i would have to make damn sure my battery was fully charged and do a transmission reset to clear the transmission fault, sometimes it would often take multiple resets. The code was active on the car, i unplugged the IBS and the car drives as it should , Full gears, no codes. These faults have left me stranded afew times also. So thank you for this video. Five stars my friend , five stars.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for the comment and very glad the video helped!

  • @southflorida2step287
    @southflorida2step287 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot thank you enough! I just had to leave my house for a job interview and exactly the same issue, unplugged the blue connector and the car fired right up! Thank you so much!!!!!

  • @crazystang69s75
    @crazystang69s75 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I had the exact same problem on my 2007 550i. went to mc Donalds came back out and no start. I un plugged the battery and re connected and boom she fired up! then went to sons school and no start again.did the battery un plugged and no go. had the car towed home next morning bought a new battery and no go......and same as you 24 hours later decided to un plug ibs plug.and car fires up!!! drove for 5 months like that and sold it. It's funny how people think alike lol great video.!!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hey thanks for the comment. I think this is not an uncommon problem that is very frustrating and very expensive for a lot of people. It was very easy to troubleshoot once you know what to do. The part that gets me the most is that this system was designed to save battery power but designing the system to shut down the starting circuit makes no sense what so ever!

    • @9011combo
      @9011combo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello my car is not doing that but the it losing battery power fast and it gives me the same message. It just doing that last night, so I'm going to disconnect that blue wire too.. thank you

    • @arko2094
      @arko2094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Broooo I’m having that probably right now

    • @EddieAvalos-vw9gt
      @EddieAvalos-vw9gt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arko2094did u fix it

  • @pixelpoopoo
    @pixelpoopoo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful! Thank you sir. My wife's car was stuck in her friend's driveway, and thanks to your research and video we were able to get it moved right as her dad was pulling up to park

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad the video helped!

  • @timd8590
    @timd8590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Rob
    It is the rights time to see this video, my 2006 550i can't start even everything is on but no crank, no start, i spent 3hours to booster but same thing, i give up and come back next day and it start, until 4 days later it happens again. I hear so many ideas until i Watch this video, i do exactly what you did it works, i hope it solved problem, thanks. Very good experience, God bless you

  • @mainstreetbully6814
    @mainstreetbully6814 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    (07 530xi) Thank you so much! I was having the high battery drain, increased battery drain, dead battery, etc... unplugged the ibs sensor and everything is good to go... even my check engine light went out and my car runs better. Thank you so very much for this video, god bless!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad the video helped and thank you for providing what issues you were having. The IBS can cause so many problems. Just be sure a check the battery periodically to make sure there is no real drain on the battery.

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "even my check engine light went out and my car runs better"
      Very interesting. I've read somewhere the IBS may send wrong infos to all the module controls in the car, thus causing to run bad.
      Should be called "MBS" for "moronic battery sensor"...

  • @61hink
    @61hink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant video. I've gotten that High Battery Drain light and wondered about it. My battery is on its way out so I'm replacing it but I'm keeping that IBS trick stored in the vault in case I still have issues. Thanks for taking the time!

  • @linglongchen5241
    @linglongchen5241 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 2007 BMW 525i too, and started getting clock resetting to 00:00 problem. I did google search, someone posted that this might be related to the battery issue. Since my battery was already about 5 years old, today I just purchased a new battery from Walmart, and replaced the battery.
    Immediately after replacing the battery, I set clock to the right time and turned off the car. Then, I was cleaning up garage. After about 2 hours, I restarted car, tried to park car inside the garage, I noticed that the clock was set to 00:00 again. My batter has a label 9/2018, so, it is quite fresh and should have enough juice. After watching your video, I guess this might be related to the IBS fault. Tomorrow, I will try to disconnect the IBS to see to if clock reseting issue can be fixed.
    Thanks a lot for your video to share the issue and workaround.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure sounds like it is.

  • @williamrogers733
    @williamrogers733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    IBS basically is a negative battery terminal with a computer on the end of it. A malfunction can cause several problems, including the fuel pump engaging every 15 seconds, even when the car isn't running, thus draining the battery.

  • @levimoya3897
    @levimoya3897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks bro was stuck at store 3 hours changing relays until I watch your video thanks worked perfectly

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for the comment and glad my video helped!

  • @cuel347
    @cuel347 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    FINALLY!!!**** Thats what was wrong. FIXED. The usual water in the battery compartment probably fried the IBS. Thanks again for the right answer.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cue L
      Glad I was able to help. water probably damaged mine too. if you don't mind. what symptoms that you have?

  • @CleteSr
    @CleteSr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow great video, very detailed! Had this issue this morning, wish I had seen your video earlier. After much time and effort with a voltage meter discovered that the ibs was the problem. Disconnected it, and she fired right up. It's been raining for 2 weeks here, and of course water leaked in the trunk. Smh

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cool, glad the video helped! I'm pretty sure that's what caused my sensor to go bad also.

  • @GP-hw5gz
    @GP-hw5gz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Robert for the video. Thank goodness that things posted on the web never disappear, your video has helped me a lot. Recently went through the whole process of replacing a battery, registering etc and a few weeks later still getting low voltage warning on screen. Even got water pump, thermostat (only 10k old) and blower fan error and several accessories not functioning power windows, folding mirror. Always suspected a power failure or bad reading somewhere, but never had the confidence to disconnect IBS. I did, cleared the codes then everything started working normally. BMW 335i N54 2008 - I love to hate it , and I hate that I love it.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So glad the video helped and fully understand the Love hate thing :-)
      Thanks for posting the comment!

  • @jadhnein5639
    @jadhnein5639 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for the tip. after getting a technician working on the car for two hours and couldn't find the pro which was The IBS . fixed it in 5 sec...keep it up.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome, so glad the vid helped! Thanks for your comment.

  • @frogmanar15
    @frogmanar15 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. Absolutely amazing thank you for your post. I have a 06 BMW 325i and my car would not start. I disconnected the blue wire and boom, it started. Thanks again😁😁😁

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very cool, so glad my video helped and thanks for the comment!!

  • @narchonomind2946
    @narchonomind2946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro your a straight up angel!! I’m going through this problem right now. Bmw said 486 with terminal and adapter. I jus replaced the positive battery terminal it was $420 now the negative terminal gave out this morning. Drove to drop off my uhaul because I was moving turned off the car went to start and didn’t want crank. Accessories and all came on no sound no crank to start tho

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If all your accessory lights came on probably not the IBS probably the starter I had exactly the same thing as well.
      Good luck!

    • @narchonomind2946
      @narchonomind2946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nobobs62 the negative terminal for the Ibs is what sends current to the starter if it was my starter it would have tried to crank and turn over its did the no crank no start like in the description and like 2 months ago I jus replaced the positive battery cable so I’m sure the negative went out

    • @narchonomind2946
      @narchonomind2946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nobobs62 starter! 😂😂😂😂😂 you right it’s going to the shop Monday cuz I don’t have time to work on it I work 6-12s so it’s gunne be there for a day or two saves me my muscle strain tho

    • @narchonomind2946
      @narchonomind2946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nobobs62 it gets to be touched by the fancy tools and air sockets she’ll be in great hands

  • @Fridunak
    @Fridunak 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A very useful video. Just unplug the IBS power and do not have to be dragged away. IBS is very sensitive to rough handling and condensed moisture.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for the comment!

  • @andywalkswithbarney1360
    @andywalkswithbarney1360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Robert, Just watched your video re: IBS ...
    Gotta say Big thanks for that, I've had the RAC look at my e60 with the same problem as yours...He couldn't fix it ?
    An auto electrician wanted £70 just to look at it ? Telling me it could cost a small fortune to fix..
    Just as I was about to give up I came on here, watched your video and BOOM💥 It worked 😄 You saved me a pot of dosh and a shit storm between my ears man, Thankyou !
    Andy, Liverpool UK. 🖒🖒

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha awesome story!! Thanks for sharing and really happy my video helped.

    • @andywalkswithbarney1360
      @andywalkswithbarney1360 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nobobs62 Quality 🖒

  • @mlmov3417
    @mlmov3417 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are right!!! Thank you sir!!! Amend!!! Disconnect should be fine. This is what I call over engineering causing all kind of issues. And BMW charging $450cad for the part. I have done so much research. People just disconnect the IBS. And running like normal. I was stranded so many times, so many inconvenience. Spend many hours troubleshooting this issues. Replace the 1 yr old battery with the new one cost $350cad and had to register the battery and clear the code for ELV and CAS using INPA. The issue came back, finally I had enough, just disconnect the blue wire, problem solve.

  • @angelisone
    @angelisone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's an ATG IBS used to monitor electrical & computer circuits.
    Don't get scammed by dealerships.
    I have removed the ATG and hit $32,500.00 to get the Lamborghini Huracan. Plus the battery prices.
    ATG say you can clear everything by using BlueDriver and save you money for not getting OEM battery.

  • @knightrider3766
    @knightrider3766 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello I know this is an old thread, but what is the ibs sensor, is it the blue connector that is disconnected??

  • @boostitbob2192
    @boostitbob2192 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have a n54 and might have a bed plate leak ... do you know where i can find a alignment tool to put it back on

  • @Ashley_van_Schooneveld
    @Ashley_van_Schooneveld 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm replacing the battery AND the IBS on a 2017 F15 X5 (the bad IBS caused the battery to be flattened out several times). Those IBS are also affecting newer BMW.

  • @kyloren2799
    @kyloren2799 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh my God this guy is a genius thank you so much. I thought i had to buy a new battery or starter. Wow! You are amazing thank you so much buddy.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL.....genius. I'm very far from being a genius. I'm really glad the video helped and for your comment!!

  • @jeanlouis-jacques3727
    @jeanlouis-jacques3727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, it actually works for my 2007 535xi. Thank you sir!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad the video helped and I appreciate the comment

    • @travismassingale7801
      @travismassingale7801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what were your issues? Mine starts then stalls out after 5 mins of driving with no issues, no codes. hoping this could be my solution

  • @TerpChaser
    @TerpChaser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best video on the net. I love you saved me over 1k for getting a starter just to be upset

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s awesome, thanks so much for the comment!!

  • @trevwhite9975
    @trevwhite9975 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another symptom of the IBS lead failure is various systems start to shut down. I've had it where the radio / idrive would not work on position 1 on the ignition. i.e the ignition is not on fully but just at the first (what we used to call) accessory setting. Put ignition on so the dash lights up (not starting the car, and the radio would b fine. The AC / heater blower would only work to it's 2nd speed and no faster. And it dips to its lowest speed if the car sees another power drain. if I hit the brakes, as soon as the brake lights illuminate, the blower dips to speed 1. And it was slightly slow to crank. Never failed to start, just slightly slower. Disconnected the IBS lead and hey presto. Radio and blower all back to normal and spins over perfectly when starting. Why oh why do they build pointless systems into cars that serve little purpose than to break down over time and give issues???? Great video by the way.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment Trev!
      I get the purpose of the IBS, save battery, but I'm totally baffled as to why these great German engineers would let the IBS effect the car start system!
      Thankfully the did design it to were the system can be disabled.

  • @melindahawkins9188
    @melindahawkins9188 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi my 2007 525i """ At times when I crank it " it shows a gold key somemetimes a circle when driving with a triangle symbol inside also while driving my car begin rumbling sound from seemingly the vents areas and under car " radio and air pause "start pause start back repeats it again with gold circle with triangle symbol shows again car slows a lll bit when I get to destination put in park push start button to cut off car goes dead without cutting the car off """ my God my doors would not unlock my key would not release from ignition all power shut off """ could not get out "" sit there about 5 or more min power came back on as I press the auto start button that's scary and dangerous especially if there is a fire """ help please

  • @marlowhazel2
    @marlowhazel2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a code cc-id-97 and my car won't crank, also disconnect IBS and still no start. Help

    • @angelisone
      @angelisone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a DVM (same as DMM)?
      You want to check ground (known metal on engine) to hot (+ red).
      Then check starter the same way.

  • @thestarfamily15655
    @thestarfamily15655 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks to this video I've started my car again 😊🤗 thank you very much!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent so glad the video helped!

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      @trevorlouis7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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      I was dumb lost my login password. I would love any assistance you can give me.

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      @jaxxonleighton4105 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @trevorlouis7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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      Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.

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      @trevorlouis7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @1yyymmmddd
    @1yyymmmddd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most annoying is that you have such and "intelligent" sensor, but no error messages appear to hint you what is wrong with the battery.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed!

  • @patriciacordova9375
    @patriciacordova9375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It didn’t work for my 2007 550i 😩 could it be the ground? Or the starter maybe?? gonna try the relays next I guess 🤷🏽‍♀️ thanks for the video

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the dash light up when you push the start button without your foot on the brake pedal?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      50 seconds into the video

    • @patriciacordova9375
      @patriciacordova9375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it does

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patriciacordova9375 My best guess is that it is the starter. Not a fun job

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My car Z4 E89, one day fine, next no start. Code says it's hall sensor key slot fault, but tried a 2nd hand replacement and both keys, still the same.
    Code reader gave out historical battery charge, day before fail, 99%, now 39%. Something drained battery.
    So now fully charged. Still no start.
    I will disconnect the ibs tomorrow just see what happens.

  • @hopejimenez941
    @hopejimenez941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My windshield wipers won't work when raining

  • @darrylneal8392
    @darrylneal8392 ปีที่แล้ว

    😮 that actually worked....had same problem with mine.....watch this video & it fired straight up 2006 530xi

  • @Vaskevs
    @Vaskevs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got an 08 328i, I have the issue where every thing turns on, except the engine doesn't start.I removed the ibs and still didn't start, even though everything else was fine as if the engine was on.Perhaps it's the starter since battery is also good???

    • @Vaskevs
      @Vaskevs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also noticed that there was another wire that was not plugged in anywhere that resembled the blue ibs cable but in black. I'm assuming it's ground?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vaskevs does the car power up with the second push of the start switch?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vaskevs if it does probably a starter

  • @honeybhanchettable
    @honeybhanchettable 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to yell you thank u for saving me some time and money. I had this very same issue. I unplugged the IBS and my car started right up. Thank u, Thank u, Thank u for making this video.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wade kristi Glad my video helped and thanks for commenting!

  • @hassanpakarachie8728
    @hassanpakarachie8728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Robert I am sorry to disturb you but before my battery drained a engine temperature too high error occurred , does that count ?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thought would be no. The engine temperature wouldn't have anything to do with the IBS sensor that I know.

  • @bamaboi6845
    @bamaboi6845 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a 2007 750i it was doing the same thing so I watched your video and went outside and just moved the wires and it cranked up

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very nice!!

  • @johnnyrester350
    @johnnyrester350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks thanks my 2005 bmw has not run in 4 weeks did what you said it runs great now bless you

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow 4 weeks! So glad my video helped you and thanks so much for the comment.

  • @Browngeezer
    @Browngeezer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi my bmw e60 2.3i 2005 will not start even when jump started it just clicks but no start. When I have it connected to jump start the light all come on but idive doesn’t come on. Do I disConnect the ibs 1st then try jump start it after? Thanks

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, if there lights are coming on and you hear clicking it sounds like a bad starter to me not the IBS.

    • @Browngeezer
      @Browngeezer ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi again I managed to get it started before I can remember how but I didn’t change the ibs..
      having issues again where the car not starting , no lights on dash , interior lights work , central locking don’t work
      Swimming pool of Water behind driver seat
      It was sat around for a month, I got it jump started but couldn’t turn it the car off a
      even with the key out!!
      I disconnected negative still wouldn’t turn off - i did end up taking out ignition
      switch fuse out fuse (7) to cut the engine off
      The car wouldn’t start again tested all the fuse viable fuses they were fine so got a new battery it’s was super low 3.6
      Fitted the new battery but the bastard still won’t start-
      Any help where I should start first any help would be amazing
      God bless

  • @paulinushaingura838
    @paulinushaingura838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a bmw 525i, i disconnected the IBS but still no crank? All you get to hear is a humming noise which is the fuel pump i suppose, please help?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do the accessories power up when you press the start button a second time without your foot on the brake? If so it sure sounds like a starter to me. The starter on mine also went out definitely a big job

    • @paulinushaingura838
      @paulinushaingura838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nobobs62 The accessories do turn up as soon as you turn the ignition on. I tried knocking the starter a little and tried cranking again and it started making a click sound probably by the starter solenoid so this tells me that clearly the starter is bad and probably the brushes are worn out, so it needs to be replaced.

  • @Passionate747
    @Passionate747 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks very nice video I'm having issues with my (2008) bmw 750li no start battery discharged
    The battery is (1) year old AGM very expensive too I paid at the dealer $557 I don't know what is the problem is it a automatic car wash that did. when i open the door and insert the key in to the ignition the flywheel start turning by itself without starting kind of a grinding noise
    some they say it's power control module and some say VVT. / BST BMW electronics no good. too many sensors for nothing. Sound system that logic 7 no sound in the speakers
    recharge battery . I did install a new battery from my wife (Mercedes Benz S500) 2005 but that did not work again recharge battery. My (2004) BMW 750li Is running fine i don't want touch that one. I like the way you show the BST cable again nice video thanks

  • @davvvvve
    @davvvvve 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My brothers car started after this tutorial . Thank u , Thank u , Thank u

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! I still can't understand why they would design it that way makes no sense. Especially because it's German engineering.

    • @redinstrumental7535
      @redinstrumental7535 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nobobs62 Greed

  • @Hittajavz38
    @Hittajavz38 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Robert this video was posted 3 years ago has your battery went bad Since? Just wondering? Great video btw

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey sorry for late reply. I did replace it about a year ago I think. The voltage was fine but seemed a little weak. Testing said one cell was going bad. It was still under warranty so they exchanged it.
      Did the lack of IBS cause this? Could be. Could also have been just a flaw in the battery. My thought on it is just a flaw in the battery. I sold the car a few months ago. So I won't have any more data.

  • @josuesantos8333
    @josuesantos8333 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a bmw 528i 2008 , changed the battery because it wasn’t good anymore and now my car doesn’t want to start, the lights turn on an off and I have codes popping up like transmission , abs etc . it turned on properly yesterday but didn’t want to go into drive or reverse , now it doesn’t want to turn on , not sure what’s wrong

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like the new battery is bad from stock. I'd have it checked out

  • @wileanarodriguez657
    @wileanarodriguez657 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m having this same problem i disconnected the blue cable and still have nothing I only have the key symbol on the dash can you help me ?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My best guess would be the DME/ECM is bad. Check power at the positive terminal under the hood. Sorry I can be more help.

  • @jorgechavez9371
    @jorgechavez9371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you just remove this sensor from the negative thermal? And the car works? Again? I got a bmw f30

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No did not remove it from the negative terminal just left a little blue connector off

  • @DLOWBIMMERS
    @DLOWBIMMERS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    saved me so much money . THANK YOU

  • @Rob-lr6xj
    @Rob-lr6xj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this be my problem for my 2011? Having similar issues when i use push start i get a single click and then nothing else i was thinking this or my relay?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't think so if you hear a click. That makes me think low battery or starter problem. Good luck!

  • @gloriabellerive6571
    @gloriabellerive6571 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 328i 2007 and took it in as it had a recall for air bag and oil change since then it has had starting problems took it local and they thought it was starter they had me confused so I had it towed to BMW... they said it was not the starter it was the cable to the battery something got wet/ corrosion and the whole thing had to be replaced at the tune of 5,398.00 had it for a week when i got it back the engine light came on again and the bulb light and radiator fluid light came on took it in and replaced light they told me the device light is going on because break fluid had to be replaced said I would wait on that. Drove back home stopped at gas station and would not start after filling up with gas. had to have it towed again??? Please help!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry for delay, had been a really busy week.
      I haven't worked on a 3 series but I'll try to help. Do the Accessories power up if you press the start stop button? When you 1st put the fob in the car or you are sitting in the car only thing that should be coming up as the little key symbol 2nd press should make several lights on the dash come on, does that happen or not?

  • @cuttingedgecool7235
    @cuttingedgecool7235 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is a great education and explanation of BMW's (IBS) Intelligent Battery Sensor.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for the comment!

  • @rickyvernon2024
    @rickyvernon2024 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm had the exact same warning control messages you did on my 2008 328xi. Literally the first time my clock reset when I started it after work one day almost as if the battery was disconnected and reconnected again then it gave the control message you had for battery discharge with a pic of a car on a lift. Im almost sure its my IBS sensor now I'll try this fix after work.

  • @icelandic22
    @icelandic22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi let's see if this reaches out to someone I just replace the battery in my 2007 BMW 550i everything lights up it cranks but doesn't start. Before I replace the battery I was getting random none starts just clicks when it would crank it starts. Now again after replacing the battery it cranks but doesn't start!! Any ideas

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it's turning over, it has to be either ignition or fuel issue. Nothing to do with the IBS. The IBS fault wouldn't let it turn over

  • @claymarshall3957
    @claymarshall3957 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I unhooked ibs yes it runs but not as well. I replaced ibs and didn't fix battery draw problem. What next.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like the draw is real. You need to isolate system to figure out the cause. When the car is not being used for a while stay overnight pull fuses to isolate a system may help.

  • @melvincry1266
    @melvincry1266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    But what happens when you disconnect the ins and you have nothing not even lights come back on !!!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you disconnecting the IBS? Something's not right if you don't have lights. The only thing that's be disconnected is that little two-wire blue connector nothing else

  • @officermorris9732
    @officermorris9732 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hit a dear and my car started showing codes for this and now my car will not start and wouldn’t come out of gear this little thing cause so many problems

  • @haiticheriebarreau1918
    @haiticheriebarreau1918 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God bless you my brother

  • @zamankhan4211
    @zamankhan4211 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you. You saved my day! Was able to start it up without paying loads of money. Thanks man

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zaman Khan Glad the video helped!

    • @michaelbozenski6923
      @michaelbozenski6923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am going to try this thank you.is there any possibility that this could cause a trans malfunction light to come on occasionally that you know

  • @ALBreezyx68
    @ALBreezyx68 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys 👋 I disconnected the IBS and then the battery after waiting 1hr the car started.was wondering if it will continue to work as a normal drain to the battery? Or will it kill the live of the battery?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that is the main goal of the IBS is to extend battery life. that part I can't tell you about for sure but my thought process is with the IBS out of the picture is reverts back to just a regular charge through an alternator which is always work fine in the past.

  • @gregpalumbo2503
    @gregpalumbo2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robert...You are my hero !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you...and you did save me money!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad the video helped! Thanks for the comment.

    • @gregpalumbo2503
      @gregpalumbo2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nobobs62 Robert - Are you an engineer?

    • @gregpalumbo2503
      @gregpalumbo2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert - I know this vid is @ 4 years old....may I ask, how long and how well - did your BMW operate with the disconnect?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregpalumbo2503 I did replace the battery about two or more years later. I did because one cell was going bad and it was under warranty. So to be honest I really don't think not having the IBS sensor in there did it but it is possible.
      I sold the BMW about a year ago.

  • @juanthomas123
    @juanthomas123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    did u try reconnecting the ibs after battery change?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes I did, it still would not start. I have no doubt my IBS is defective. No problems at all since I disconnected it.

  • @PeopleHealthTec
    @PeopleHealthTec 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:24 video of IBS in trunk

  • @alikariem592
    @alikariem592 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has the car died on you before you disconnected that cable?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry for late reply but no, I never did

  • @ALBreezyx68
    @ALBreezyx68 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Robert Edward:
    How long have you been driving the car with the IBS not connected?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Since I first posted this video little over two years ago I believe

    • @ALBreezyx68
      @ALBreezyx68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nobobs62 sounds good I was debating if I should just continue to have it disconnected or should I even bother replacing it with a new IBS sensor.

    • @glasser2819
      @glasser2819 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ALBreezyx68 I bet it needs to be coded to your car with a specific dealer only computers, not a 5mn plug-n-play replacement.
      The health of Germain cars is designed to be maintained by a health practitioner... at dealership

  • @jasonmartin3685
    @jasonmartin3685 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    exactly the same thing happened to me,but it seemed to have drained my battery overnight,i have disconnected the ibs cable and it now starts,thanks for your great video,hopefully its as simple as this.many thanks

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad the video helped!

    • @jasonmartin3685
      @jasonmartin3685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nobobs62 hi,again just an update to say the fix still is working,i have had no starting or battery or power issues since using this fix ,as far as i can tell its a perfect fix.thanks again.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonmartin3685 that's great news!

  • @ivanangulo85
    @ivanangulo85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I have a problem I put a new battery in and the car was sitting for a month a the battery died.now I'm buying an oem and hope for the best

  • @chiniko312
    @chiniko312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love that car 2007 bmw 525i

  • @ASpec818
    @ASpec818 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you disconnect the ibs plug? I located the sensor but I can't separate the plug. What's the trick?

    • @ASpec818
      @ASpec818 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Btw my 545i exhibits similar symptoms in that the engine occasionally does not crank. All electronics go on but the engine won't turn over.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it just pulled out. I'm going to make a small video that shows how to disconnect the positive wire and the blue wire. I'll let you know when I do

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the car powers up on the second push of the start button it's not the IBS. Probably starter. I made a video for that. Not a great video but it mite help.

  • @terryhigson434
    @terryhigson434 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks very much dude! Iv been pulling my hair out over this. As soon as i disconnected it started.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome brother! So glad my video helped another with the same problem.
      Thanks for the comment

    • @9011combo
      @9011combo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have 08 528xi, and I don't see that blue wire. I have the same symptom, I took battery to check and it's good. When I pressed the start button it just clicks and that's it

  • @skunkedagain
    @skunkedagain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very helpful. just try to keep the camera from moving so much, it gives me a headache. Try a steady tripod, and use tools or fingers to point at the area you're referencing. other than that, really good content.

  • @magdielbrito7106
    @magdielbrito7106 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANKS SOOOO MUCH for this video, u save my life, I have the same issue with my bmw 328. Like 5 days before the issue start I have to set time and hours like 3 time it was weird to my and thet the day 6 the car don't stat at all, I did the same thing u done and pum it started, thank man for the vid andGOD BLESS.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment. So glad my video helped you!

  • @alij164
    @alij164 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 535d m sport with alternater regulater problems unplugged these 2 wires and presto no problems no warning s car flying but I will put a new alternater on it to be sure

  • @geepook7902
    @geepook7902 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2007 750li and I can't seem to locate the plugs that you are referring to ,do u know where they are on this model?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      GEE POOK Sorry but if it's not in the same spot as mine the only thing I can tell you is look to see if you have an IBS and if you do just follow the cabling back it should be a two wire connector

    • @geepook7902
      @geepook7902 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Edwards I did what you said and I found a connection coming off of my positive cable nothing off the negative ,I disconnected it and the car fired rt up . However don't know if this is the problem cause it tends to start sometimes and some times not but I will monitor it for now since I disconnected this cable and see if I still get any no starts .thank you for responding I appreciate it ...

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      GEE POOK. Now the IBS is connected to both positive and negative post the thing to look for is the battery terminals themselves the negative should be quite a bit bigger. You may have just found the connector that sends the positive signal to the processor on the negative post and that may just cause they censor to be inoperative. Mainly you don't want this to be a real drain on the battery

  • @cperez571
    @cperez571 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a bmw e90 3 series 325i and have replaced the alternator and the starter and battery went this morning to crank car and nothing put my obd scanner and got the code 2E8B for the battery sensor I’m going to unplug it and hope it works this E90 coupe has been a nightmare just tired of the dam thing hope it works great video thanks

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope so too

    • @cperez571
      @cperez571 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got up this morning unhooked the sensor and gave it Lil jump didn’t do nothing at first but tighten up the positive some more and negative and car turned on seen that my cable on other car was disconnected wow crazy lol 😂 but car is on hope it turns back on letting her warm up keep you posted

  • @MrHavingfun68
    @MrHavingfun68 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you make the video on how to take off the positive wire?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry I've not been able to yet.

    • @MrHavingfun68
      @MrHavingfun68 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Edwards appreciate the response snd the video

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/iFQIdfDOD4k/w-d-xo.html
      Sorry for the delay.

    • @MrHavingfun68
      @MrHavingfun68 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the follow up.

  • @BryanChance
    @BryanChance 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This IBS is a useless over-engineered piece of crap. Like BMW's cooling system. I own two BMW's and getting really tired.

    • @TravelingChef
      @TravelingChef 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own a BMW! Big money waster ! I hate it

  • @BotirBabadzhanov
    @BotirBabadzhanov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, thanks for the video! I had the same problem (with my BMW 2007 525i),but after plugging off the IBS, it's running pretty cool! I was wondering, will it be a problem in the future if I won't replace it (just drive like this for couple months)?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The IBS allows the charging system to make the battery last longer by efficient charging with this disconnected it goes back to an old school regulator system which is supposed to shorten the life of the battery I didn't find that on mine but it could.
      That's the only thing I know that changes when that IBS is disconnected

  • @Sunshine-dz5uc
    @Sunshine-dz5uc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could this cause the car to go into limp mode?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not 100% sure but I don't think so. My thought would be it's one of the front wheel speed sensors. My 97 528i went into limp mode when the passenger side front sensor went out

  • @norhelebermj
    @norhelebermj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    mine won't satr anymore after I disconnect the battery and reconnect it, it start for a while then after I cleared and reset all the warning sign , it won't start anymore, I tried to disconnect IBS like what some video tutorial it did not help so far...stll trying to figure it out please help!!!!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      norhelebermj b. Does the second push of the start switch power the accessories like Windows and seats?

    • @norhelebermj
      @norhelebermj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not try that yet, but pretty sure they are operational

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the windows and such have power my thought is the starter is the problem. If the IBS was bad the windows wouldn't work. I talk about that at the very beginning of the video

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the battery is bad. Get it tested

    • @norhelebermj
      @norhelebermj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot I will let the battery get check, right now I disconnected the battery we'll see if everything will get reset and plug it in tomorrow and try to start again like what other video says...

  • @alexandrecruz3252
    @alexandrecruz3252 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey where did you get that bmw information that you have on the screen

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The web site is at the 3:21. Bimmerscan.com

  • @yendryperez8583
    @yendryperez8583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish I knew this a little earlier 👍👌

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment!

  • @yocyber5711
    @yocyber5711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you sir👍This helped me out a lot!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So glad my video helped out I appreciate the comment

  • @AlaGoose09
    @AlaGoose09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO, Sir!! Been having this issue for months and I knew it wasn't my battery since I just bought a battery. 🤦‍♀️

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks so much for the comment and so happy the video helped you out!

    • @jiaah7.-8
      @jiaah7.-8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same ill try this tomorrow

    • @Ashley_van_Schooneveld
      @Ashley_van_Schooneveld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was told by the dealership that replacing the battery but having a battery drain (caused by faulty IBS) could flatten a battery enough times to have a battery only a few days or weeks old to be replaced. Basically a bad IBS is battery killer.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ashley_van_Schooneveld The battery charging system with an IBS is supposed to make batteries last longer and they probably do but when the IBS is disconnected I believe the charging system reverts to the old way of the voltage regulator in the alternator doing all the work. That basic system mite shorten the life of a battery compared to the IBS system but its my belief that it’s not a drastic difference. After I disconnected the IBS sensor on my car that battery lasted for over a year and I can’t remember how old it was prior to that.
      In the end do what you think is best. My comments are just opinions

    • @Ashley_van_Schooneveld
      @Ashley_van_Schooneveld 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nobobs62 the mechanic found that "transport mode" having switched itself on for unknown reasons and was causing the battery to go flat repeatedly. At first I thought it was the weather to blame since it's been hovering around -15°F here for a few weeks. Still I replaced the OE battery that was less than 4 years old for another OE battery of the same spec, the IBS and had a battery maintainer installed as preventive measure. Once "transport mode" was disabled using an OE scan tool, the battery keep its charge since. Problem solved!

  • @gazaboy3049
    @gazaboy3049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yoooooooooo tank you sooooo much. Appreciate your help. God blessed you brother

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for the comment!

  • @bronwynhunter3583
    @bronwynhunter3583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hope this fixes my problem

  • @colinneedham946
    @colinneedham946 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the engine turning over at all

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, did absolutely nothing. you know how normally you can press the start button a second time without your foot on a break and it Powers accessories? even that didn't work

  • @malefrmbk
    @malefrmbk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about reconnecting ibs after car starts...

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      malefrmbk you can but the problem will more than likely still be there

  • @bonidaexpress
    @bonidaexpress 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you very much for your video i bought a new battery and my 745li wont start and as soon i watched your video it started

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very nice!

  • @Unleashthe
    @Unleashthe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your the best thank you very much it worked , perfectly!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad the video helped!

  • @peternight7941
    @peternight7941 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an absolutely brilliant video. My car starts every time just be getting the warning battery dechanging and a picture of a car on a lift Icon. Well I have had my battery checked and everything is fine. I was thinking it may be the alternator as it had a slightly low charge. Until I discovered IBS and what it does from your video. I'm going to try to disconnect this and I hopefully all will be well. Just a bit worried about the iDrive. would any new icons warning information come up. I have a bmw 2009 e60 520.

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Peter,
      Glad the video helped! The icons associated with the IBS will not be there because it's not connected. The most important thing for you to do is to check your battery often, daily would be best, until you know for sure the problem is the IBS and NOT the battery.

  • @officermorris9732
    @officermorris9732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This worked for me!! Thank you for posting this. I already knew my ibs was damaged after I hit a deer

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for the comment and glad my video helped!

  • @johnnybautista4127
    @johnnybautista4127 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you ever think about replacing the ibs cable? Have you had any problems having it disconnected and or do you know of any problems that can happen if you leave it like that? Great video by the way and thanks again!!

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No I never thought a replacing the cable or the sensor. I get the concept that the IBS CAN prolong the life of the battery but the cost to repair it and the fact that it can keep your car from starting makes it not worth it to me.
      No problems at all leaving it connected.

    • @johnnybautista4127
      @johnnybautista4127 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Edwards so my car finally gave out on me and won't start. I have a 2007 328i. I disconnected the blue plug but what else do I have to disconnect?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Johnny Bautista that's it. if that didn't fix it, the ibs is not the problem

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Johnny Bautista does the car power up with the second push of the right switch?

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Johnny Bautista if it does probably the starter or battery

  • @janflores8702
    @janflores8702 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You saved my live thanks

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jan Flores
      That's great, glad I helped you!

  • @alitehrani3415
    @alitehrani3415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot was great
    Imagine how much it would have cost you at BMW dealership .
    another way they design car to make money after sale ,they could made it they way car would start but check engine on but this way no one would take it to dealership

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad the video helped thanks so much for the comment!

  • @edwarddumas5416
    @edwarddumas5416 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't see where mines disconnect i don't want mess up something

    • @edwarddumas5416
      @edwarddumas5416 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      325 i 06 bmw

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know if the 328i is the same or not. If you're not sure don't do anything

    • @edwarddumas5416
      @edwarddumas5416 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool i found it tho.. but it still didn't crank.. so its my starter

  • @SpiritualStuntman
    @SpiritualStuntman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Robert!!!! Awesome video 🙏🏼

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for the comment Matt, glad I was able to help.

  • @melvincry1266
    @melvincry1266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry that’s disconnect the IBS ??

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it does

    • @melvincry1266
      @melvincry1266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Rob, but not understanding your response?? Should I loose all power when I disconnect the IBS ??

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@melvincry1266 no you won't lose power you just won't have the IBS controlling things with the IBS disconnected it would be like an old school alternator regulator system

  • @htdaniel
    @htdaniel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much man ... ! You are a lifesaver ! I only disconnected the blue shit and the car started !

    • @Nobobs62
      @Nobobs62  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! I can never get over the fact that they designed it that way makes no sense especially because it's German engineering.

    • @htdaniel
      @htdaniel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah ! Many thanks m8. to bad that i bought a new battery but the old one was 12 years old!

  • @stasbakanov7191
    @stasbakanov7191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a million