"Aggressive SJW have infiltrated positions of authority in social media!" Joe: "I'm skeptical." "Ancients used alien technology to cut stone!" Joe: "Sounds legit."
Die, Master Monkey I think he's gotten better since this vid but the stuff he's challenging Sargon here is just ignorant. Anita doesn't make prejudicial statements against all men? 'They' isn't a fair way to describe the feminist cabal (even though they are completely lockstep in everything they believe and obviously coordinate hit pieces?)... Joe obviously didn't know anything about the situation but like much of the media refuses to believe what's right in front of him... When he said he doesn't think Anita makes sweeping generalizations about all men that was just too much. She's very open and very clear about that point, as are most feminists.
The92Waffles Anita is the one who said everything is sexist, racist, and homophobic and you have to point it all out. And yes, she has made sweeping generalizations about men all the time.
This bitch is the cancer of feminism. Fuck off. When will they realise they have already took over in the states anyway... Ruining hollywood over the last year alone.... Lets see what happens next year theyre already destroying movies and gaming.
Can't disagree. When someone has no principles whatsoever and only ever agrees with the last person who spoke, that's dangerous when he has the largest podcast in the world.
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I work in a very male dominated industry, CNC machining in the aerospace industry. I am one of 2 women in the CNC aspect of our company. I'm paid just as much as every man with similar level of experience, and I'm treated just like every man in the entire shop. I've never ever felt that the reason I'm one of only 2 women in an area of about 50 people is because of preference for male machinists. It's just a simple fact that most women do not want to do this kind of work. But feminists will force the narrative that women are under represented because of misogyny. It seems a lot of women lose their perspective and their principles when confronted by the 3rd wave feminist bullies.
P Ags most womens experience is just like most of the men they work with they don't get opportunities they probably overworked and underpaid and underappreciated. But unlike the men they work with they blame their lack of opportunity/success on sexism instead of life in general which isn't fair and isn't easy and only the lucky or overly persistent will succeed and gender has nothing to do with it.
That ist great for you. But who has bullied you? You see, I was never bullied by a feminist - just as you say you have never been bullied by a male coworker. Both is great. But still it is important to be able to adress it, if any of us makes a different and less pleasant expierence - don't you think?When you are bullied by women I can't just say "I am not, so there can't be a problem" and also if another woman gets bullied by a male coworker you shouldn't say "I do not hav that kind of problem, so there is none." Don't you agree?
Jones/Uygur incident was almost certainly staged for ratings. Someone from TYT in a suit with a badge invited Jones to their set and lead him all the way there. There is footage of it.
You're pretty right. Alex Jones v. Cenk Uygur is legendary because it's two of the biggest political fatass nutjobs going at it in real life. I cannot illustrate enough how funny it was that they were fat, and very opposite. It's beautiful.
But they did care enough, and they did send death threats, people stalked the outside of her house, sent pictures of it, and they did it to many other women during that "gamergate" movement
@footferry1589 Imagine you expose yourself on the internet with any controverse opinion, receive some death threats like anybody else who does this, and take this as an excuse for no longer dealing with any form of criticism and as an opportunity to gather money by playing the damsel in distress, a trope you condemned before.
You know I don't hate women, but girls liker her need to get a real man in her life, specifically one who is willing to put up with her bullshit and able to show her men are not all evil and oppressive.
Can you explain what happened ? Im lost actually lol this is my first time learning about this person and how is she tied to TLOU 2? Thanks in advance.
Bay at the Moon Productions im not saying shes right but she literally got doxxed and death threads for month right wing people are way to triggered about her position
@Felix t But it falls on her she makes wrong statements it’s funny she made a tweet on Twitter that Mandalorian that there’s no female cast. In it people corrected her a large majority. The point is and I agree Sargon she’s a dick. She shouldn’t say something that she doesn’t understand making threats I hate to say this but it happens to everyone on the internet. I was threatened and other crap.
@@sdafsf Anita is a human being like everyone else and shouldn't be doxxed, attacked, threatened or harassed. HOWEVER, she is an absolutely dishonest, disingenuous grifter who should be fairly criticized every time she does something shitty. And that's a lot with her.
"I made 30 videos REFERENCING her" "Thats alot" Yeah.... How many times have you talked about weed or DMT per podcast? See how easy it is to reference something?
My favorite Joe Rogan trope is him saying something is "weird". He CONSTANTLY says "that's so weird" or "it's a really weird" etc. If it was a drinking game we'd all have died from alcohol poisoning long ago.
Anyone who's ever watched Sargon's videos on Anita knows that all he does is criticise her ideas, her points of views. As opposed to what Sarkeesian did: harassed him while sitting as a panellist on an anti-harassment session.
Hornets are evil oppressors. Just because someone stomps on their nest doesn't give them the right to bee all angry and upset. Stomping on their nest gives them no right to defend themselves. They're just using such an 'attack' as an excuse to bee violent to the stompy wamen. Wamen should bee allowed to stomp on hornets nests if they want without the fear of being attacked. Hornets are obviously sexist, misogynist pigs who hate all the wamen.
Mar Kat Ag sadly she has plenty she got to speak at a UN meeting along with a shitty woman developer that is awful and has been accused of using sex for good reviews
Mar Kat Ag Serves on policy advisory councils at Twitter and Google. Wrote (then violated) VidCon code of conduct. Spoke at United Nations. *Might* be relevant. :-)
It doesn't matter "they" promote her, everyone wants her gone , but all of the millennial progressive snowflakes in the industry for some reason push her up there... there's ALWAYS trouble wherever she goes. For god's sake she was a representative for UN... thanks to her victim card. When do I get to go and talk on behalf of UN for being called a dickhead on the net?
I think it’s funny how Joe says he lives in the real world but lives in a gated community 😂😂 Anyone else here after she wrote and ruined the script for the last of us 2 ? Years and years of waiting for this game and it’s just ruined in a second, I’m glad I read the leaks cause it saved me 60 euro
People need to get off Joe's back. He's playing devil's advocate and is not necessarily disagreeing with Sargon. This sort of thing is done literally every podcast. The show wouldn't be nearly as interesting if Joe didn't take a neutral stance and spark debate.
When you have a misandrist going after your favorite hobby telling you that the entertainment you like is "toxic masculinity" and actually changes some studios games, you can expect people to be against her. Would you have the same response to Joe if he was playing devils advocate for Richard Spencer going with a white ethno state?
but what did it do? in the places its been passed, what is the effect? I don't notice bans myself but I also don't belong to many groups or try to mobilize myself in any way.
Joe is a buffoon with that comment. It's so ignorantly snarky. Yes, Joe, feminist activists testifying to the UN is kinda counted as a "real world" event.
That comment was kinda funny, but it seems like Joe was being kinda dickish in this clip. I haven’t seen the full 3-hour show, but in the few other clips I have seen, it seemed like he was acting the same way. I wonder why?
The sad thing is that I get why he doesn’t want to get involved, but also see the other dude has a huge point. Had she tried to cancel Joe Rogan by the time of this interview, this probably would have been more comfortable for Joe.
@@LloydChristmas08 indeed. If this conversation happened *today* Joe would probably have a little more context tbh. But with how Sargon presents it, he comes across a bit whiney.
Ah this video aged so well. Reading the comments from a year ago and seeing these soyfilled dudes sticking up for her was amazing. She is a con artist and now she is broke.
I love that Joe Rogan doesn't cater to his guests. He treats everyone and everything they say, unbiasedly and calls them out accordingly... even if he mostly agrees with them.
@@charlieguy2795 Yeah I know and it sucks. He should have at least kept them up on TH-cam. He said he was gonna keep those episodes up on here. The episodes he couldn't have on Spotify.
Joe's afraid of her leading a Cancel Crusade on his show, so he keeps defending her and trying to steer Sargon away from criticizing her (even though Sargon is completely right).
I despise how Joe Rohan belittles the situation by saying he “lives in the real world”. He does realize that a large source of his income comes from the Internet and TH-cam, right?
Dawn Jinter he says he lives in the real world but lives in a gated community 😂😂 I caught that aswell, why does he think that he’s so high and mighty like?
Sargon of Akkad was berated by that woman after talking about how much women are harassed online. Its called free speech and anyone can give criticism. Sargon has every right to criticize. This feminism crap is insane and self serving. They don't have to listen to anyone who disagrees with her being a victim ideology. She is an embarrassment as a woman. If he does a lot of videos about her many people agree :) I can't stand her. These women are spoiled, jaded, and man hating so you owe them everything. They are just mean ugly (inside and out) women.
Karlie Patterson It was to show the hypocrisy that the other side doesn't abide by their own rules remember she went to the U.N. to classify you suck as harassment
@Yeah Okay If Anita were let to her devices unchecked, there would've been a bigger possibility of her gaining power from under the table and striking far harder than she gained the power from all the negative clout she got...
@Yeah Okay No. How about fucking *no* . "Reasonable cause"? I gotta get some of those shrooms you're smoking, because anything that her or any of her ilk want is anything *but* reasonable. If anyone wanted well written/represented/executed non-standard themes/protagonists/plots in video games, I'd say rather to wait for someone of those demographics or relatable themes with years of life experience *AND* good at writing, but with the caviat of someone that *won't* shit on the gamer demographic! My comment was a summarized rebuttal and rejection of the possibility of these left-loonies having any legitimate entry, even if you think that "big houses" don't "sugar coat" them. Why? Simple - because they *never* work, or never work *well enough* for anyone's good. And as a reminder - anyone working in a "big house" is as much of a villain as Sarkeesian and her peer socio-justicar grifters... Sorry dude, but progressivity and diversity in gaming ain't possible until someone comes that won't take shit from status-quo dicksuckers *nor* will they shit on the demographic they are supposed to be earning their trust from. Case closed!
@@DEV3N87 More like Sargon of Applebees, Not only did he single handedly destroyed UKIP, but he joined the party just to have bragging rights on 4chan.
The first video I saw of Anita's was about Christmas music. When she pointed out that Michael Buble singing "ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS" was creepy and stalkerish and Mariah singing it was reinforcing women's dependency on men, the type of Anita's thinking became enemy number 1. If you can turn a Christmas love song into women's oppression with completely opposite conclusions, using the exact same word sang by opposite sexes, you can and will turn EVERYTHING into sexism. In fact, that is exactly what she has done. EVERYTHING IS SEXIST, EVERYTHING IS RACIST, EVERYTHING IS HOMOPHOBIC. AND YOU HAVE TO POINT IT ALL OUT. Anita, you have a mental disorder called BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER, which is characterized by a constant sense of victimization. Please seek help.
"unacceptable to never hate" you kind of lost me because of the double negative. But the issue with hating your oppressor is often that not everyone agrees that you are being oppressed. It's like how many of the pro black movements hate whites because they are "oppressed".
I loved the interaction between these two. Sargon goes a milion miles per hour, puting out the distilled version of what he spent the last five+ years presenting, debating and exploring. Joe`s job is to slam the breaks every now and then to, in old west talk, ‘’keep him honest’’, and to make sure everyone is cauth up.
Captain Oblivious A misunderstanding that they solved in the spot by discussing their point of views and then went on with their lives is bullying the shit out of someone? Stop being condescending and treating the guy like a child.
To see what a despicable creature Anita really is, watch boogie2988's video about his interaction with her on Vidcon (both shared "cyber-bulling" panel) - 3qEwRZ0PziA. You can see his last statement on that panel (one that turned Anita into poison-spitting harpy) at 13:50 in Keysi Estrada's video - 2tgfqAxP2GU. I recommend you to watch the 2nd video first to understand the context.
I think you can't blame Boogie for this... He's a genuinely kind person with real health issues that genuinely tries to be positive to everyone - that's just a man he is... He built his entire platform around the idea of being as king and positive as possible to each other regardless of one's background or ideological persuasion, and he truly believes in this idea. He doesn't deserve any hate, let alone that mind-boggling treatment from that evil worthless bitch... You better be angry at her instead of him...
Zannooda What's the issue here? They had a misunderstanding and solved it by sharing their point of views and respecting each other's different opinions and then moved on with their lives. You guys love to make storms on teacups.
+La Tricoteuse Have you actually watched Boogie's vid on this issue? Because respecting each other's opinions was not how it went down. Well, from Anita anyway.
so what? if he wants to stay in his room that's his choice..... the fact you observe that and care enough to comment shows a lot about who you truly are
Joe is a great conversationalist, he is like a good editor for a author. Makes you specify the people in the story, stops you from digressing, getting too personal, he makes your stories more universal. Everyone should try and be more like that in order to make listening more fun. Although don't be sargon, at the start he was a bit rude.
And years later we see the horrible ramifications of game developers listening to Anita's bullshit. Gamers ignored or made fun of her. The game makers made her games and now we have a new generation of "gamers" that simp for it.
I was unaware for a long time but I didn't buy a lot of games. Now I'm basically Japanese only at this point and it's only like 2 games that I've purchased new in 12 years.
She started out profiting off hugely from kickstarter donations and never delivering what she promised. People started to call her out on it and trollng her and that got her the validation for her victim card. Suddenly she was on established media like TedX talking about women in gaming and how they get bullied and targeted like her, presumably for her brave voice on telling it like it is. She's built her career and her credibility on her being harassed for her scam.
"She started out profiting off hugely from kickstarter donations and never delivering what she promised." I had to read that sentence twice before I noticed you were talking about her. I don't know what you know about Carl Benjamin but he started off by running a kickstarter for a video game he didn't write. I thought you meant him.
@@vapourmile Unless Carl decided to identify as a girl which seems unlikely. The first word *She* might have been an indicator that the person in question would be female.
I`m in the games industry, and I feel kinda ashamed, that she is made some sort of embassador for women in games, considering that she incorporates female toxicity so much. Even people in the industry kinda put her on a pedastal and would not accept any professional criticism of her work, no matter how wrong it is. They do not accept it, and no matter how professionaly you criticise her, they call you a gamergater and want to call you a troll and get you out. It really pisses me off. There was a genuine discussion about female representation in games, I had high hopes of her videos thinking that she would maybe do a scholarly job (not knowing anything about her)....and then did this hack-garbage fire that people are so amazed by. She lied and was misleading several times (e.g. saints row 4, complained about female strippers that you could attack and how its sexist and made sure the male strippers weren`t on screen). She praised games that according to her own standards are sexist, and when she was asked how she would design a non-sexist game...her description didn`t hold up to her own standards. Not to mention basically scamed people, by just stealing the footage, for which she took the money for.
I like how she insults him about being harassed, yet she benefits from being harassed. Like do you honestly think she would've been put on a pedestal if she wasn't the victim?
I don't agree with Sargon politically but he seems like a good guy, could be a friend of mine. Just because we have different opinions doesn't mean we should hate each other.
Sargon and Anita both deserve each other. Anita clutches her pearls over half naked women in video games and Sargon now clutches his pearls over half naked women on OnlyFans. They’re both sex-negative in the end. It’s horseshoe politics and pointless culture war bs.
Not even close to the same thing. Anita hates all men because she thinks all men are oppressors. Sargon hates only fans because he thinks only fans is destructive to the relations between the sexes. Given how effed relationships between zoomers are, I think Sargon’s correct.
tlee1982 Anita does not debate. She's incapable of articulating her thoughts and speaking without a script or teleprompter. And in any case, she only speaks to people who "listen and believe".
rogen right off the bat said it all: you live in a very insulated world." i"m a gamer and a history lover myself. but i never got these "controversies" among that silly community, that being of the "gamer"
toxic masculinity is when you show others that you are better than them, because you put in effort, you invest your time into your craft, and they have no chance to compete with you, in that area , and it hurts them, they feel worthless because you can achieve greatness, in other hands they can't even do 1% of what you can, and it hurts them even more, when you show them that you are better than them in many different areas, even in the areas where they thought they could be better than you. there is no such thing as toxic masculinity, its just some useless people making excuse for their lack of dedication to life, and to become better, they are just lazy, or do not care about improving, and they expect people to respect them for their laziness and excuses.... these people are the devolution of man kind, and should not be accepted. And one more thing, reality is there, but some people fail to accept it, just like every body is going to die, but most people fail to realize it, and throw their lives away, while calling some one who is working hard is " toxic masculinity" some one work hard, because they know, they should make the best out of their life while its still there, so when they die they can leave the world some thing to miss...
Agreed. Western women have become so accustomed to being coddled and infantilized that now they view a man simply looking at them as harassment. As the saying goes "When you are used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like torture" It is truly a sad state of affairs but it restores a bit of lost hope to know that a woman who looks as good as you do in this picture thinks this way. May fortune smile upon you.
Nephi Nelson Wait I wanna double check... you guys do know that this comment was sarcasm right? That the punch line is that sargon is the biggest triggered snowflake?
Sargon is full a shit! I used to be subscribed to his channel them realised that he uses the same cognitive and intelectual gymnastics in other non feminist topics as some of the SJWs. Besides arguing against SJWs does not require an inteligent person. SJWs easily display their ignorance and stupidity by just talking.
But 1st wave feminism didn't exist (very few suffragettes called themselves feminist), and 2nd wave feminism is almost just as bad as 3rd wave in terms of sexism.
just ran across this. It reminded me of an incident that I had in a MMORPG about 4 or 5 years ago. I am not going to name the MMORPG. What happened was that I made a female character and in her bio I said she was a lover of women. I'm pretty good at the game and got her to what at that time was a high level fairly quickly. I got an in-game message from a woman who played the game. She complimented me on how, as a woman, I was showing men that women could play the game and that I was a champion of Women's rights in the gaming community. I replied to her saying that, while I appreciated her comments, I was a man in real life. She did not reply to me. she tagged me for harassment. A moderator contacted me about it, I explained what happened to them and pointed out that when they thought I was a woman I was a champion but when they found out I was a man I became a harasser. The moderator thought about it and then asked me to remove the "lover of women" comment from my bio. all in all I thought it was hilarious.
Who is here after Anita destroyed TLOU2
Me
stop dude its still fresh
game isnt even out yet
I've gone on a binge , haven't heard her name since 2016
Ey man same
"Aggressive SJW have infiltrated positions of authority in social media!"
Joe: "I'm skeptical."
"Ancients used alien technology to cut stone!"
Joe: "Sounds legit."
Stoners enjoy a good story mang...
Die, Master Monkey I think he's gotten better since this vid but the stuff he's challenging Sargon here is just ignorant. Anita doesn't make prejudicial statements against all men? 'They' isn't a fair way to describe the feminist cabal (even though they are completely lockstep in everything they believe and obviously coordinate hit pieces?)... Joe obviously didn't know anything about the situation but like much of the media refuses to believe what's right in front of him... When he said he doesn't think Anita makes sweeping generalizations about all men that was just too much. She's very open and very clear about that point, as are most feminists.
Of course he would be skeptical.
Harry Flashman
I think he's just playing Devil's Advocate, which is always a good way to feed the conversation, especially as an interviewer.
The92Waffles Anita is the one who said everything is sexist, racist, and homophobic and you have to point it all out. And yes, she has made sweeping generalizations about men all the time.
She is going after Joe Rogan now. She says he is dangerous and shouldn't be aloud on youtube.
She's struggling to fight irrelevance. Looks like she's getting less and less views on her videos.
Ohhh bad move, Anita...! Joe should have her on, and dismantle her arguments in front of millions of people.🤔👍
FUCK SAKE
This bitch is the cancer of feminism. Fuck off. When will they realise they have already took over in the states anyway... Ruining hollywood over the last year alone.... Lets see what happens next year theyre already destroying movies and gaming.
Can't disagree. When someone has no principles whatsoever and only ever agrees with the last person who spoke, that's dangerous when he has the largest podcast in the world.
and now Anita Sarkeesian is attacking Joe Rogan.....
@Tyler Mod Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
@Tyler Mod Hahahahahha
Ohh this is gonna be good! Hahaha
@Tyler Mod Imagine imaginers
Tyler Mod you’re a disgusting simp 😂 get some standards she looks like a bridge troll
I work in a very male dominated industry, CNC machining in the aerospace industry. I am one of 2 women in the CNC aspect of our company. I'm paid just as much as every man with similar level of experience, and I'm treated just like every man in the entire shop. I've never ever felt that the reason I'm one of only 2 women in an area of about 50 people is because of preference for male machinists. It's just a simple fact that most women do not want to do this kind of work. But feminists will force the narrative that women are under represented because of misogyny. It seems a lot of women lose their perspective and their principles when confronted by the 3rd wave feminist bullies.
Then count yourself lucky
Your experience does not make every woman's experience.
P Ags That is true, but seeing how's it illegal to pay women less for just being women. Her experience is far more likely.
P Ags most womens experience is just like most of the men they work with they don't get opportunities they probably overworked and underpaid and underappreciated. But unlike the men they work with they blame their lack of opportunity/success on sexism instead of life in general which isn't fair and isn't easy and only the lucky or overly persistent will succeed and gender has nothing to do with it.
That ist great for you. But who has bullied you? You see, I was never bullied by a feminist - just as you say you have never been bullied by a male coworker. Both is great. But still it is important to be able to adress it, if any of us makes a different and less pleasant expierence - don't you think?When you are bullied by women I can't just say "I am not, so there can't be a problem" and also if another woman gets bullied by a male coworker you shouldn't say "I do not hav that kind of problem, so there is none." Don't you agree?
>On stage to fight bullying.
>Bullies guy in the crowd
>Praised for standing up to the guy in the crowd
What went wrong with our society?
Degraded into virtue signaling hypocrisy, it's almost over, give it a year or two and it'll end, whatever remnant remains won't matter
double standards
Feminism next question
Banksters and politicians aren't separated
Raven Whiteduck I know I’m late to the party but I hope you are right.
To me, this Anita vs. Sargon incident was nowhere near as much fun as Alex Jones vs. Cenk Uygur.
so what , they should have reacted out of emotions and start fighting...
do you watch WWE shit or something
No. You do realize that shit is fake, don't you?
yeah, arguments between men v woman are usually quite different from male v male arguments.
Jones/Uygur incident was almost certainly staged for ratings. Someone from TYT in a suit with a badge invited Jones to their set and lead him all the way there. There is footage of it.
You're pretty right. Alex Jones v. Cenk Uygur is legendary because it's two of the biggest political fatass nutjobs going at it in real life. I cannot illustrate enough how funny it was that they were fat, and very opposite. It's beautiful.
Sargon sounds like he is talking about his ex-wife lol
Controversial Topics Or she would have to pay him. Whoever earns more. See? Feminism fights for everybody.
Sargon hatefaps to AS every night before his evening soy sauce and tofu.
thats a jokes line but i still agree with Sargon
He really does. He’s got something more than just disliking her opinions and persona. It’s very overexaggerated
@@abouttimeforarevolution241 no, he's just being British.
She has blocked comments on all her videos. She can't take any critisism.
But they did care enough, and they did send death threats, people stalked the outside of her house, sent pictures of it, and they did it to many other women during that "gamergate" movement
Naught Dog and Sony, Cant take any criticism anymore too.
@footferry1589 Imagine you expose yourself on the internet with any controverse opinion, receive some death threats like anybody else who does this, and take this as an excuse for no longer dealing with any form of criticism and as an opportunity to gather money by playing the damsel in distress, a trope you condemned before.
You know I don't hate women, but girls liker her need to get a real man in her life, specifically one who is willing to put up with her bullshit and able to show her men are not all evil and oppressive.
@@Sycokay you know she's been harassed and doxxed, right?
so i can ban my wife from watching magic mike as it objectifies men?
Yes
Ha good luck with that
Sure, if you want her to kick your butt! Anita is trash. Why is anyone paying attention to her?
That depends. Do you feel as though you have the right to control what your wife watches?
Yes you can
Who’s here because of last of us 2 (tear)
.... I am..... I'm lost for words
Can you explain what happened ? Im lost actually lol this is my first time learning about this person and how is she tied to TLOU 2?
Thanks in advance.
Me too
purepit4ever1200 :(
but wouldnt anita like last of us 2?
"When you don't have an argument, you need to be a victim." Right on, brother.
so a raped woman going to court doesn't have an argument?
Debunking a point is not harassment.
Bay at the Moon Productions im not saying shes right but she literally got doxxed and death threads for month right wing people are way to triggered about her position
@Felix t I’m sorry but Anita is just not credible.
@@prometheusvenom7189 im not going to take a stance on what she said but doxxing and making threats is never ok
@Felix t But it falls on her she makes wrong statements it’s funny she made a tweet on Twitter that Mandalorian that there’s no female cast. In it people corrected her a large majority. The point is and I agree Sargon she’s a dick. She shouldn’t say something that she doesn’t understand making threats I hate to say this but it happens to everyone on the internet. I was threatened and other crap.
@@sdafsf Anita is a human being like everyone else and shouldn't be doxxed, attacked, threatened or harassed.
HOWEVER, she is an absolutely dishonest, disingenuous grifter who should be fairly criticized every time she does something shitty. And that's a lot with her.
"I made 30 videos REFERENCING her"
"Thats alot"
Yeah.... How many times have you talked about weed or DMT per podcast?
See how easy it is to reference something?
My favorite Joe Rogan trope is him saying something is "weird". He CONSTANTLY says "that's so weird" or "it's a really weird" etc.
If it was a drinking game we'd all have died from alcohol poisoning long ago.
Irony now that Anita wants to shut Joe Rogan down.
Jimmy Logan Which means that she must be very desperate... she never talked with someone who might disagree with her before.😂
Anyone who's ever watched Sargon's videos on Anita knows that all he does is criticise her ideas, her points of views. As opposed to what Sarkeesian did: harassed him while sitting as a panellist on an anti-harassment session.
He definitely insulted her in videos before. The funny thing, one of his videos calls her trash.
Vesuvius Link me to that video.
Basit Saeed I absolutely agree
Vesuvius Wasn't that Laci Green?
Basit Saeed sargon nitpick I mean cherry picks soooooo
Anita at Vidcon - "Just Google me on TH-cam". Lol.
Just Tweet me on Facebook
Anita: "Hey look, a hornet nest." *stomp stomp stomp*
Hornets: "BzzzzZZzzzZZzzz!"
Anita: "Yiieee!!! Why is this happening to me!!!"
Hornets are evil oppressors.
Just because someone stomps on their nest doesn't give them the right to bee all angry and upset.
Stomping on their nest gives them no right to defend themselves.
They're just using such an 'attack' as an excuse to bee violent to the stompy wamen.
Wamen should bee allowed to stomp on hornets nests if they want without the fear of being attacked.
Hornets are obviously sexist, misogynist pigs who hate all the wamen.
John Marston I just spilled my drink out of laughter, you fuck! XD
Bees are part of the PATRIARCHY!
Lol, sorry but glad I made you laugh :D
Hornets have pointy pokers hence she hates men, men are evil, pokemon, pokeahontas. Basically anything that pokes is evil.
"I'm totally not a part of the internet culture" sustains career via internet culture, speakers, and trending topics. lols
to be fair, his career is not sustained by it, or was build on it
Are you implying that internet culture is a monolythic hive in which all members should be cognizant of all goings on?
i am a 28 year old woman and i never heard of this woman til today, dont give her more relevence than she deseves
Mar Kat Ag sadly she has plenty she got to speak at a UN meeting along with a shitty woman developer that is awful and has been accused of using sex for good reviews
Mar Kat Ag Serves on policy advisory councils at Twitter and Google. Wrote (then violated) VidCon code of conduct. Spoke at United Nations.
*Might* be relevant. :-)
People who you don't can commit crimes/and/or do bad things. Being unaware doesn't achieve anything.
Mar Kat Ag Do you think there are people who have never heard of Jack Thompson or Fredric Wertham?
It doesn't matter "they" promote her, everyone wants her gone , but all of the millennial progressive snowflakes in the industry for some reason push her up there... there's ALWAYS trouble wherever she goes.
For god's sake she was a representative for UN... thanks to her victim card.
When do I get to go and talk on behalf of UN for being called a dickhead on the net?
She should have been kicked off vidcon for violating the rules.
Instead the owners of vidcon apologised... to HER...
I think it’s funny how Joe says he lives in the real world but lives in a gated community 😂😂 Anyone else here after she wrote and ruined the script for the last of us 2 ? Years and years of waiting for this game and it’s just ruined in a second, I’m glad I read the leaks cause it saved me 60 euro
Its such a shame, litterally makes me sad
I should re iterate, she didn’t write it but had a HUGE influence over the writers.
Michael Coleman I know man, wasn’t to happy myself when I found out
@Logan a grabbler
We should have fought to protect our hobbies (and culture) sooner.
People need to get off Joe's back. He's playing devil's advocate and is not necessarily disagreeing with Sargon. This sort of thing is done literally every podcast. The show wouldn't be nearly as interesting if Joe didn't take a neutral stance and spark debate.
When you have a misandrist going after your favorite hobby telling you that the entertainment you like is "toxic masculinity" and actually changes some studios games, you can expect people to be against her. Would you have the same response to Joe if he was playing devils advocate for Richard Spencer going with a white ethno state?
Plain to see he on. The fence and is there to question what the guests say.
Good interviewing
Defending a biased view is not neutral.
I love Joe... "I live in the real world.. It's crazy"
so have children, what's your point? what difference was made? what impact felt? oh yeah, none.
...Rogan
but what did it do? in the places its been passed, what is the effect? I don't notice bans myself but I also don't belong to many groups or try to mobilize myself in any way.
Joe is a buffoon with that comment. It's so ignorantly snarky. Yes, Joe, feminist activists testifying to the UN is kinda counted as a "real world" event.
That comment was kinda funny, but it seems like Joe was being kinda dickish in this clip. I haven’t seen the full 3-hour show, but in the few other clips I have seen, it seemed like he was acting the same way. I wonder why?
Joe seriously looks like he doesn't want to be part of this whole conversation...
The sad thing is that I get why he doesn’t want to get involved, but also see the other dude has a huge point. Had she tried to cancel Joe Rogan by the time of this interview, this probably would have been more comfortable for Joe.
Yeah because sargon sounds like a little bitch.
@@LloydChristmas08 indeed. If this conversation happened *today* Joe would probably have a little more context tbh. But with how Sargon presents it, he comes across a bit whiney.
@@weresmurf5731 I'm from the future. She went after Joe.
Gotta love how Joe Rogan will try and educate and correct guests on subjects he's clueless on.
Ah this video aged so well. Reading the comments from a year ago and seeing these soyfilled dudes sticking up for her was amazing. She is a con artist and now she is broke.
Trump 2020 👌
@@KubuśpuchatekTVN MAGA Bajs.
Truuue. It's only a matter of time before the mask starts to slip...
Wait did something happen to her? I can't stand her but I'd love to hear she got her dues.
@@zackgravity7284 I mean she's host to a dead TH-cam channel, that's about it
The Greens did actually do something after the "incident" (and after this interview) - they apologised to Sarkeesian.
I love that Joe Rogan doesn't cater to his guests. He treats everyone and everything they say, unbiasedly and calls them out accordingly... even if he mostly agrees with them.
Why is this episode not on Spotify or TH-cam anymore??? It's gone everywhere...
Yeah I saw that too. Weird
I believe it was part of Joe’s Spotify deal. There was a handful of episodes that wouldn’t go to Spotify
@@charlieguy2795 Yeah I know and it sucks. He should have at least kept them up on TH-cam. He said he was gonna keep those episodes up on here. The episodes he couldn't have on Spotify.
Joe's afraid of her leading a Cancel Crusade on his show, so he keeps defending her and trying to steer Sargon away from criticizing her (even though Sargon is completely right).
And it was all in vain, she wrote an article a few days ago criticizing Rogan and calling for him to deplatformed.
@@Frenki94 Yea, what a bitch. It's pointless to kowtow to these people.
Ironically, she's do that right now, as far as I know
I despise how Joe Rohan belittles the situation by saying he “lives in the real world”. He does realize that a large source of his income comes from the Internet and TH-cam, right?
Dawn Jinter he says he lives in the real world but lives in a gated community 😂😂 I caught that aswell, why does he think that he’s so high and mighty like?
@@jackfahy2283 Sociopath. That's why lol
Anita is attractive?
Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder
H4WK69 I could never get it up with her.
gotta admit she has just the right level of attractiveness to draw people into her controversy
She's a beast....
Date her attractive - no, but drop a load of cash on her teledildonic cam girl stream, Oh yeah.
Her ugly goes right to the bone, thanks to her personality.
"It's because she's a DICK" Golden LMAO
Bring Sargon back on just to spite Spotify.
"A Liberal wants quality of opportunity and a progressive wants quality of outcome." Well put!
The phrase is usually about "equality", not quality. I believe that's what he siad, but it did sound like "quality" with his British accent.
Sargon of Akkad was berated by that woman after talking about how much women are harassed online. Its called free speech and anyone can give criticism. Sargon has every right to criticize. This feminism crap is insane and self serving. They don't have to listen to anyone who disagrees with her being a victim ideology. She is an embarrassment as a woman. If he does a lot of videos about her many people agree :) I can't stand her. These women are spoiled, jaded, and man hating so you owe them everything. They are just mean ugly (inside and out) women.
Karlie Patterson It was to show the hypocrisy that the other side doesn't abide by their own rules remember she went to the U.N. to classify you suck as harassment
this is just for context not at you
Karlie Patterson guy
Oh stop it. It was more than "you suck". People are threatening people with rape and murder. That is a bit more than "you suck".
Not on the internet.
So has the full episode been lost to the ether now, not on spotify or youtube.
Joe is utterly uninterested in this topic, why did he bother even having Sargon on?
God bless the guy who leaked TLOU2
@Yeah Okay If Anita were let to her devices unchecked, there would've been a bigger possibility of her gaining power from under the table and striking far harder than she gained the power from all the negative clout she got...
@Yeah Okay No.
How about fucking *no* .
"Reasonable cause"? I gotta get some of those shrooms you're smoking, because anything that her or any of her ilk want is anything *but* reasonable.
If anyone wanted well written/represented/executed non-standard themes/protagonists/plots in video games, I'd say rather to wait for someone of those demographics or relatable themes with years of life experience *AND* good at writing, but with the caviat of someone that *won't* shit on the gamer demographic!
My comment was a summarized rebuttal and rejection of the possibility of these left-loonies having any legitimate entry, even if you think that "big houses" don't "sugar coat" them. Why? Simple - because they *never* work, or never work *well enough* for anyone's good.
And as a reminder - anyone working in a "big house" is as much of a villain as Sarkeesian and her peer socio-justicar grifters...
Sorry dude, but progressivity and diversity in gaming ain't possible until someone comes that won't take shit from status-quo dicksuckers *nor* will they shit on the demographic they are supposed to be earning their trust from. Case closed!
I wonder how Joe feels about her now that she's aimed the cancel culture cannon at him.
"That's fine, but that's not right."
Quintessential Britishness
This is so surreal seeing these two together
HAHAHA so tru!
Why who is he?
@@jak3w hes a Kekistani National. Great man!
@@DEV3N87 More like Sargon of Applebees, Not only did he single handedly destroyed UKIP, but he joined the party just to have bragging rights on 4chan.
Criticism isn't harassment. Get over it, Anita.
Glad Joe steered Sargon away from all the ad hominem.
Feminism Presents Anita Sarkeesian: "Snakeoil Saleswoman of the Century!"
What on earth are you talking about?
That describes her to the T. Crazy person selling fake 'cures' to people.
What about the fact that you stole this comment because you're an unclever insecure shitbag?
Snake oils is actually good for you
It amazes me the power that Ms. Sarkeesian has over so many guys lol.
I like how Rogan just mocks and belittles him the entire time. If you don't give a shit about this nonsense then why bring him on?
The first video I saw of Anita's was about Christmas music. When she pointed out that Michael Buble singing "ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS" was creepy and stalkerish and Mariah singing it was reinforcing women's dependency on men, the type of Anita's thinking became enemy number 1.
If you can turn a Christmas love song into women's oppression with completely opposite conclusions, using the exact same word sang by opposite sexes, you can and will turn EVERYTHING into sexism. In fact, that is exactly what she has done.
EVERYTHING IS SEXIST, EVERYTHING IS RACIST, EVERYTHING IS HOMOPHOBIC. AND YOU HAVE TO POINT IT ALL OUT.
Anita, you have a mental disorder called BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER, which is characterized by a constant sense of victimization. Please seek help.
It's so nice to see Carl then and now and see the progress made
@Waffins Carl definitely has done a 180 on that position, like Dave Rubin and a few others.
Wow I wish Joe would rewatch this
1:40
You shouldn't hate your oppressor.
Why? Why is it unacceptable to never hate? Attack her victim complex, not the rational emotion of hatred.
He is Liberal.
"unacceptable to never hate" you kind of lost me because of the double negative.
But the issue with hating your oppressor is often that not everyone agrees that you are being oppressed. It's like how many of the pro black movements hate whites because they are "oppressed".
Hate begets hate. Break the cycle.
Albert Wesker
it's true. look up his politics.
Emotions are not rational by definition. Rational emotion is like salty sugar or bright darkness.
Sargon talked so well 3 years later and Anita is going down her value is plummeting and the numbers on her channel are decreasing.
Oh how this has aged like fine wine... Joe if only you knew what would happen
Joe Sold out for $100 milli in 2020 and doubled down for $250 mil a few months back for reference
can't Joe just watch the footage of the event... instead of doubting how it happened. annoying
Its a shame this full podcast was never switched over to spotify and has been deleted by youtube.... censorship wins everytime
well, i don't see why spotify would want a nazi talking for 3 hours
@@toniokettner4821 oh no not Nazis.... You mean ppl you don't agree with... You idiots have took all the meaning from that word congrats sheep
@@toniokettner4821 btw Sargon was the one that some gamer chick called sexist .. you are thinking of the other fat British dude
@@TheStuckNorris ok sorry, i exaggerated. he's a white nationalist.
Back from 2021. Need to go back. Had to come back to this for common sense.
I loved the interaction between these two.
Sargon goes a milion miles per hour, puting out the distilled version of what he spent the last five+ years presenting, debating and exploring.
Joe`s job is to slam the breaks every now and then to, in old west talk, ‘’keep him honest’’, and to make sure everyone is cauth up.
Check out Boogie's post vidcon video. Sarkeesian bullied the shit out of him.
Captain Oblivious A misunderstanding that they solved in the spot by discussing their point of views and then went on with their lives is bullying the shit out of someone? Stop being condescending and treating the guy like a child.
Joe, he's literally mentioned Anita less than you mention anyone like Amy Schumer in your podcast...
New to JRE.. These podcasts are food for thought which I very much appreciate. Subscribed 😊
To see what a despicable creature Anita really is, watch boogie2988's video about his interaction with her on Vidcon (both shared "cyber-bulling" panel) - 3qEwRZ0PziA.
You can see his last statement on that panel (one that turned Anita into poison-spitting harpy) at 13:50 in Keysi Estrada's video - 2tgfqAxP2GU. I recommend you to watch the 2nd video first to understand the context.
Zannooda I just unsubbed a few minutes ago from boogie for that bs.
I think you can't blame Boogie for this... He's a genuinely kind person with real health issues that genuinely tries to be positive to everyone - that's just a man he is... He built his entire platform around the idea of being as king and positive as possible to each other regardless of one's background or ideological persuasion, and he truly believes in this idea. He doesn't deserve any hate, let alone that mind-boggling treatment from that evil worthless bitch... You better be angry at her instead of him...
Zannooda What's the issue here? They had a misunderstanding and solved it by sharing their point of views and respecting each other's different opinions and then moved on with their lives. You guys love to make storms on teacups.
+La Tricoteuse
Have you actually watched Boogie's vid on this issue? Because respecting each other's opinions was not how it went down. Well, from Anita anyway.
Anita said that boogie wasnt bullied because he was a white cis male, she straight up said that him being fat was the main reason.
The thumbnail shows us how Joe looks like when he's sleeping
Who's here after seeing how bad tlou2 was
Wow Sargon actually got out of his room for once
fluffynoses That beats you.
so what? if he wants to stay in his room that's his choice..... the fact you observe that and care enough to comment shows a lot about who you truly are
@@wishmaster2575 with a response like that you must be a gigantic fat turd
Wishmaster is one of Soy boys groomed lads.
LOL.
"What causes these people to group up into these weird sort of echo chambers..."
echo echo echo.
I've been waiting for this. "you live in an insulated world" yes, yes he does
Joe is a great conversationalist, he is like a good editor for a author. Makes you specify the people in the story, stops you from digressing, getting too personal, he makes your stories more universal. Everyone should try and be more like that in order to make listening more fun. Although don't be sargon, at the start he was a bit rude.
And years later we see the horrible ramifications of game developers listening to Anita's bullshit. Gamers ignored or made fun of her. The game makers made her games and now we have a new generation of "gamers" that simp for it.
I was unaware for a long time but I didn't buy a lot of games.
Now I'm basically Japanese only at this point and it's only like 2 games that I've purchased new in 12 years.
What sre the horrible implication?
She started out profiting off hugely from kickstarter donations and never delivering what she promised. People started to call her out on it and trollng her and that got her the validation for her victim card. Suddenly she was on established media like TedX talking about women in gaming and how they get bullied and targeted like her, presumably for her brave voice on telling it like it is. She's built her career and her credibility on her being harassed for her scam.
"She started out profiting off hugely from kickstarter donations and never delivering what she promised."
I had to read that sentence twice before I noticed you were talking about her. I don't know what you know about Carl Benjamin but he started off by running a kickstarter for a video game he didn't write. I thought you meant him.
@@vapourmile Unless Carl decided to identify as a girl which seems unlikely. The first word *She* might have been an indicator that the person in question would be female.
Anita needed to be told growing up to shut her trap. we'd all be better off today if she was told she's not special, shes' just another person.
That is the most horrible thing you can tell anyone.
@@rondolo1 not really. Pretty sure you're thinking of at least 5 people who need to hear this.
The way he said "You're dick" with his accent makes me laugh
I`m in the games industry, and I feel kinda ashamed, that she is made some sort of embassador for women in games, considering that she incorporates female toxicity so much. Even people in the industry kinda put her on a pedastal and would not accept any professional criticism of her work, no matter how wrong it is.
They do not accept it, and no matter how professionaly you criticise her, they call you a gamergater and want to call you a troll and get you out. It really pisses me off. There was a genuine discussion about female representation in games, I had high hopes of her videos thinking that she would maybe do a scholarly job (not knowing anything about her)....and then did this hack-garbage fire that people are so amazed by.
She lied and was misleading several times (e.g. saints row 4, complained about female strippers that you could attack and how its sexist and made sure the male strippers weren`t on screen). She praised games that according to her own standards are sexist, and when she was asked how she would design a non-sexist game...her description didn`t hold up to her own standards.
Not to mention basically scamed people, by just stealing the footage, for which she took the money for.
I like how she insults him about being harassed, yet she benefits from being harassed. Like do you honestly think she would've been put on a pedestal if she wasn't the victim?
Who is watching this in 2020 ?
If we just ignore this "Female" thing it should just go away.
Sadly this tactic doesnt seem to be working 🤣
Yet women are still triggered over it bc they are weak minded. Men don't mind being called male.
Joe and Sargon! Excellent talk, please have more.
I don't agree with Sargon politically but he seems like a good guy, could be a friend of mine. Just because we have different opinions doesn't mean we should hate each other.
The longer he talks about her the madder he gets 🤣
Sargon and Anita both deserve each other. Anita clutches her pearls over half naked women in video games and Sargon now clutches his pearls over half naked women on OnlyFans. They’re both sex-negative in the end. It’s horseshoe politics and pointless culture war bs.
100% correct.
Not even close to the same thing. Anita hates all men because she thinks all men are oppressors. Sargon hates only fans because he thinks only fans is destructive to the relations between the sexes. Given how effed relationships between zoomers are, I think Sargon’s correct.
Where's the full podcast?
We need to see Jordan Peterson and Anita Sarkeesian debate. If Anita Sarkeesian would actually debate someone male or female.
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Anita does not debate. She's incapable of articulating her thoughts and speaking without a script or teleprompter.
And in any case, she only speaks to people who "listen and believe".
Peterson would annihilate her.
I'm a freak
These guys are in love. I can see Anita changing her name to Anita Akkad :-)
Sargon of Akkad. I came on here thinking I was going to see a documentary about Sargon, history's first empire builder and Akkad the first empire.
rogen right off the bat said it all: you live in a very insulated world." i"m a gamer and a history lover myself. but i never got these "controversies" among that silly community, that being of the "gamer"
@@Rao665 It is no different than readers upset about book banning , or sports fans upset about point shaving.
toxic masculinity is when you show others that you are better than them, because you put in effort, you invest your time into your craft, and they have no chance to compete with you, in that area , and it hurts them, they feel worthless because you can achieve greatness, in other hands they can't even do 1% of what you can, and it hurts them even more, when you show them that you are better than them in many different areas, even in the areas where they thought they could be better than you. there is no such thing as toxic masculinity, its just some useless people making excuse for their lack of dedication to life, and to become better, they are just lazy, or do not care about improving, and they expect people to respect them for their laziness and excuses.... these people are the devolution of man kind, and should not be accepted. And one more thing, reality is there, but some people fail to accept it, just like every body is going to die, but most people fail to realize it, and throw their lives away, while calling some one who is working hard is " toxic masculinity" some one work hard, because they know, they should make the best out of their life while its still there, so when they die they can leave the world some thing to miss...
Agreed. Western women have become so accustomed to being coddled and infantilized that now they view a man simply looking at them as harassment. As the saying goes "When you are used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like torture" It is truly a sad state of affairs but it restores a bit of lost hope to know that a woman who looks as good as you do in this picture thinks this way. May fortune smile upon you.
Thanks for uploading this clip.
I like that Rogan challenges his guests and not just nods everything away, saying yes and amen to everything.
I now appreciate how rational Sargon is as a person. Even on Joe's show he shows just how calm and easy going he is.
being calm and easy going doesn't mean you are rational... and Sargon is just as irrational as a screaming SJW without the screaming.
kudosbudo That's why he states facts instead of just purely how he feels. Oh wait, that's the opposite of SJWs.
Nephi Nelson Wait I wanna double check... you guys do know that this comment was sarcasm right? That the punch line is that sargon is the biggest triggered snowflake?
Sargon is full a shit! I used to be subscribed to his channel them realised that he uses the same cognitive and intelectual gymnastics in other non feminist topics as some of the SJWs. Besides arguing against SJWs does not require an inteligent person. SJWs easily display their ignorance and stupidity by just talking.
Sargon can't read:
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I appreciate Joes objectiveness to this divisive topic.
"She's attractive"
How high was Sargon.
Try finding this full podcast on Spotify. #979. Good luck
It's rare to find someone who makes Joe Rogen uncomfortable
I don’t know why but rogan comes across as almost intentionally giving him a hard time for no reason.
More like Surgin Off Akkok is giving himself a hard time by being such a dimwitted grifter.
Sargon is talking about 3rd wave feminism. There is a big difference.
Kram Notrom bigfacts
But 1st wave feminism didn't exist (very few suffragettes called themselves feminist), and 2nd wave feminism is almost just as bad as 3rd wave in terms of sexism.
just ran across this. It reminded me of an incident that I had in a MMORPG about 4 or 5 years ago. I am not going to name the MMORPG. What happened was that I made a female character and in her bio I said she was a lover of women. I'm pretty good at the game and got her to what at that time was a high level fairly quickly. I got an in-game message from a woman who played the game. She complimented me on how, as a woman, I was showing men that women could play the game and that I was a champion of Women's rights in the gaming community. I replied to her saying that, while I appreciated her comments, I was a man in real life. She did not reply to me. she tagged me for harassment. A moderator contacted me about it, I explained what happened to them and pointed out that when they thought I was a woman I was a champion but when they found out I was a man I became a harasser. The moderator thought about it and then asked me to remove the "lover of women" comment from my bio. all in all I thought it was hilarious.
They want women’s freedom and rights, yet they want to cover women up like some sharia law shit. Talk about uneductation.
There is a difference between not worrying about covering up and deliberately exposing.
Again:
Sargon fawkin' called it!
I'm surprised this didn't get taken down.
Do you know why the full podcast is gone?
@@TheOnlyTYRE No, several full podcasts are gone.
@@pappyscrappy6663 weird
@@yhyh8990 send a link?
@@yhyh8990 Could you post it to your channel?
This has aged well…
Joe: "I live in the real world". Obviously not, if you haven't heard about this.