Yes, I am aware that other Push Style Daggers existed before this style of Push Dagger was developed, on particular the Katar or Katara from the Indian Subcontinent . However, the Katar was a significantly different design and was actually a short sword. The American Style Push Dagger as shown here was developed from the gimlet and was even initially called a Gimlet Dagger. It would migrate from the US to England and later Germany. This is the opinion of most knife historians, that the Katara style Swords/Daggers and the American Style Gimlet/Push Daggers developed independent of each other, not only in style but also in purpose.
That's a pretty nice Trench knife. I used to have a book called "Eye - Deep in Hell" by John Ellis about trench warfare in WW1. They had it rough. Rats, being buried alive, chemical warfare, machine guns, artillery bombardments, hand to hand combat, it really was hell on earth.
Tobias, you are starting to scare me buddy! That push dagger looks deadly!! That is a very unique looking knife though, I've never seen one before! That is a great looking sheath! Thanks Tobias!
Fascinating and informative, I am most grateful. So someone long ago got a carpenter really angry, and behold, the gimlet evolved to a weapon. You certainly do your research, and I am fortunate to benefit with the results. That melon got it good, nice demonstration.
Gimlets were used for drilling holes in wood constitution work. Once the hole was drilled thru a Mortis and Tenon joint a wood dowel pin was driven thru the hole securing the joint. Building, houses and barns were constructed using larger versions that use auger style drills with large wooden handles inserted into a hand forged ring on the end of the bit. All the beams were hand hew green logs made to size. If you ever get a chance to look inside an old barn you can see what it looks like. Trench knives were purpose designed. Soldiers needed a knife that could penetrate heavy winter clothing and kill the enemy soldiers trying to kill them; when fighting in close quarters in the trenches. The dagger style blade worked best. It penetrated between the ribs and punctured the lungs or heart easiest. A pistol in one hand and trench knife in the other was a common way to clear a trench at a fast pace. The tools of War are reminders of the cost of freedom.✨🔪✨
I saw this thing and I immediately feel in love with it. I was debating between this and a replica of the Knuckle Duster Mk1 Trench knife. All I kept thinking is everyone has seen the Mk1 but this one, this one served longer and is almost lost in time. I just had to grab it first! And that little holster sheath, sealed the deal!
It actually reminds me of a pipe when it’s in the sheath. Nice knife something I’d love to acquire if it’s not to expensive. Thank You for your great helpful videos.
Originals are extremely scarce and mostly in museums! The reproductions run from $70-$200 these days. For me, the low end repro is verging on too expensive. I know for many, even $70 is too much. For others, they wouldn't even blink at dropping $200 for a knife they wanted.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias ya I actually found a nice one on international military antiques website for $60.00 with the Robbins & Dudley push dagger with sheath. So Thank You sincerely appreciate your feedback.
FASCINATING! thanks for sharing this. it's the first time i remember seeing a push dagger with a horizontal orientation. interesting history of the push dagger. it would be great if you could share a link of where to get this reproduction. would love to add to my collection of curiosities and oddities. also, i actually prefer the skeletonized sheath, the original seems bulky and probably more relevant to trench warfare than to be able to access it quickly.
Arguably having the blade at the different angle is more effective, because if it slips sideways it follows the cutting edge whereas a traditional push dagger if push sideways can buckle more readily than slice if the angle is not directly straight on.
I'm a huge fun of push daggers. I've been hunting for 2 years for this particular example. I regret i didnt buy it as it was available... That horizontal blade is pretty cool for human anathomy especially ribs. But the designs nowadays are much easier to carry. Here in Poland we can carry knives everywhere with almost no restrictions. For edc i can recommend CBK 175 it's so slim and light. Due to push daggers factors its the easiest knife to conceal and great for self defense- try to disarm sb with that kind of knife. Great video, ty
There's a TH-cam channel called WW1 Great War Fighting Knives, he has a video covering an original Robbins of Dudley with its sheath that you may find interesting, many other WWI knives as well.
The early push daggers such as the India Katar are held differently and have an independent origin. This style of push dagger is traced back to the gimlet.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias The katar, enclosing the fist, and with two bars top and bottom and the big blade, yes.. and the idea of a spike or blade, gimlet- like, is a cross century, cross cultural thing, used in britain, India, etc. So my theory is that the british army learned more about such things from India than from gamblers in the American south east. Interesting that our trench knife was a "standard", "blade up", as was the german trench knife, etc, it was the Brits who went with the "blade perpendicular " thing..
@@wingatebarraclough3553 , the gimlet daggers used in the 19th century New Orleans and San Francisco had both horizontal and vertical blade perpendicular to the handle. They also had simple spikes. I get that others feel push daggers trace back to India or the Middle East but most sources show this style tracing back to a carpenters Gimlet and New Orleans. Indeed, in the mid 1800’s they were called Gimlet Daggers. It wouldn’t be until around the time this pattern begin migrating to Europe that they were being called , Fist, Punch, and Push Daggers.
I’m from Dudley. Dudley is a Town, part of the Dudley Borough, West Midlands County, West Midlands Region, England. So basically in the US a Region is the equivalent to a State (though much smaller) a County is equivalent to a County, Counties are made up of Boroughs which is your local Council, Boroughs are made up of Cities, Towns and Villages. Dudley is steeped in history, Dudley Castle is in the doomsday book, the Castle was put under seige in the English Civil war twise, first Seige was broken by Royalist forces and the Battle of Tipton Green followed shortly after (Tipton is a nearby town and i went to a school called Tipton Green) the 2nd Seige was successful unfortunately and resulted in Royalist forces abandoning the Castle and Parliamentary forces destroying the Castle. The Castle remains is now a Zoo and parts of the Castle walls can be seen all through the Town. The Castle can still be toured, still flies the Union Flag and St. Georges Cross and has a lovely old cannon pointing off into the distance. There’s some history of Dudley that no one asked for.
Wow what a beauty I’ve never seen anything like this before. I wanted to suggest you make a video how your store your collection but from the looks of this video it appears you store most of your knives hanging up. But how do you store your folding knives I see you have a bunch of more expensive knives like case and Spyderco unfortunately being on disability I’m not in the financial position to spend over 50.00 on knives but I’m happily grateful that you collect a lot of Rough Rider knives and Marbles these brands are in my price range but I’ve subscribed to your channel and I’ve been extremely satisfied with your videos so I thank you for all your helpful information you provided in your videos THANK YOU GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
Actually most of my knives are stored in two wooden dressers with silica gel pads to absorb moisture. This is especially true of folders and most of the carbon steel blades. The room where the knives are stored is kept at 50-60 % humidity and the temp is at around 70 F (21 C) degrees. I check the sheathed knives in the area monthly for signs of rust. And I actually rotate them. As for Rough Ryders and Marbles, they probably are the bulks of the knives that I have bought when it comes to buying a new knife! I think they are excellent knives for both the collection and the pocket. I've been carrying the same Rough Ryder Toothpick for several years and they knife remains in excellent condition. It has even gone through a couple washer/dryer cycles and is still in great shape! I still think they are probably the best buy on the market (price vs. quality). My thoughts, on storage is pretty simple. Store them in wooden box or a small wooden dresser. The wood help pull humidity from the knives. I line the boxes with soft cloth to and add a few silica gel pads. And keep them away from plastic. My biggest complaint with Rough Ryders is they put their knives in plastic sleeves. Get them out of those sleeves as soon as you buy them. Also keep your knives out of the light as much as possible, especially direct sunlight or florescent lighting. It breaks down plastics and fades dyes.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias thank you I’ve actually went to harbor freight tool to buy a fake pelican apache 3800 was on sale for $34.99 case after seeing a video from a bunch of different TH-camr’s But I’m really enjoying watching your videos I’m disabled so I have a lot of free time and I’m not really a tv watcher due to it lots of times effects my PTSD but I THANK YOU SO SO. Nothing but respect to you but I seem to enjoy your videos more because you are a little bit older where a lot of others are a bit young here on TH-cam. THANK YOU SIR
When I saw the thumbnail, I thought "converted Estwing hammer". Now it's "do it yourself swordstick". I suppose it's pretty cool, but so emphatically illegal here in the UK that I've probably attracted the attention of the authorities just by watching the video. Interesting however, as always!
Yes, I am aware that other Push Style Daggers existed before this style of Push Dagger was developed, on particular the Katar or Katara from the Indian Subcontinent . However, the Katar was a significantly different design and was actually a short sword. The American Style Push Dagger as shown here was developed from the gimlet and was even initially called a Gimlet Dagger. It would migrate from the US to England and later Germany. This is the opinion of most knife historians, that the Katara style Swords/Daggers and the American Style Gimlet/Push Daggers developed independent of each other, not only in style but also in purpose.
I thought later that a good reason not to sharpen it, it would cut through the sheath.
That's a pretty nice Trench knife. I used to have a book called "Eye - Deep in Hell" by John Ellis about trench warfare in WW1. They had it rough. Rats, being buried alive, chemical warfare, machine guns, artillery bombardments, hand to hand combat, it really was hell on earth.
I know the book you speak of! Excellent book on the horrors of trench warfare in WWI.
Pretty interesting piece Tobias…… thanks for sharing bud stay well
Tobias, you are starting to scare me buddy! That push dagger looks deadly!! That is a very unique looking knife though, I've never seen one before! That is a great looking sheath! Thanks Tobias!
That scared you? 😱
That handle looks like an old Hurst shifter.
Yeah it does they were cool!!!!!
That is really neat. Thanks for sharing Tobias!
Thanks for another awesome history lesson, and for the look at this neat dagger. Cheers, buddy.
I am certain that I need one!
Fascinating and informative, I am most grateful. So someone long ago got a carpenter really angry, and behold, the gimlet evolved to a weapon. You certainly do your research, and I am fortunate to benefit with the results. That melon got it good, nice demonstration.
That was very interesting. Never had heard or seen that style of push dagger. Thanks for sharing it.
Gimlets were used for drilling holes in wood constitution work. Once the hole was drilled thru a Mortis and Tenon joint a wood dowel pin was driven thru the hole securing the joint. Building, houses and barns were constructed using larger versions that use auger style drills with large wooden handles inserted into a hand forged ring on the end of the bit. All the beams were hand hew green logs made to size. If you ever get a chance to look inside an old barn you can see what it looks like. Trench knives were purpose designed. Soldiers needed a knife that could penetrate heavy winter clothing and kill the enemy soldiers trying to kill them; when fighting in close quarters in the trenches. The dagger style blade worked best. It penetrated between the ribs and punctured the lungs or heart easiest. A pistol in one hand and trench knife in the other was a common way to clear a trench at a fast pace. The tools of War are reminders of the cost of freedom.✨🔪✨
Very entertaining History on the origin of the push dagger, thank you Tobias. Have a very nice day.
Ooh! Looking forward to this already!
I have a gimlet just like that in my tool bag, the threads at the front need some work but it works. Good video.
Here’s another difference, the original Robbins of Dudley push Dagga average price $1495 crazy isn’t it
that Dudley is amazing, love the horizontal blade i have never seen one like that.
I saw this thing and I immediately feel in love with it. I was debating between this and a replica of the Knuckle Duster Mk1 Trench knife. All I kept thinking is everyone has seen the Mk1 but this one, this one served longer and is almost lost in time. I just had to grab it first! And that little holster sheath, sealed the deal!
Nasty little bit of history!
It actually reminds me of a pipe when it’s in the sheath. Nice knife something I’d love to acquire if it’s not to expensive. Thank You for your great helpful videos.
Originals are extremely scarce and mostly in museums! The reproductions run from $70-$200 these days. For me, the low end repro is verging on too expensive. I know for many, even $70 is too much. For others, they wouldn't even blink at dropping $200 for a knife they wanted.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias ya I actually found a nice one on international military antiques website for $60.00 with the Robbins & Dudley push dagger with sheath. So Thank You sincerely appreciate your feedback.
Awesome thanks for showing it to us
Interesting history of a devastating time.
FASCINATING! thanks for sharing this. it's the first time i remember seeing a push dagger with a horizontal orientation. interesting history of the push dagger. it would be great if you could share a link of where to get this reproduction. would love to add to my collection of curiosities and oddities. also, i actually prefer the skeletonized sheath, the original seems bulky and probably more relevant to trench warfare than to be able to access it quickly.
Plowshares Forge also makes it made a copy of this piece along with a lot of other WW1, WW2 and civil war nasties
Great job..thank you!!! Just got a repro from Atlanta Cutlery awesome peice.
My go to EDC from now on.😜
Arguably having the blade at the different angle is more effective, because if it slips sideways it follows the cutting edge whereas a traditional push dagger if push sideways can buckle more readily than slice if the angle is not directly straight on.
I'm a huge fun of push daggers. I've been hunting for 2 years for this particular example. I regret i didnt buy it as it was available... That horizontal blade is pretty cool for human anathomy especially ribs. But the designs nowadays are much easier to carry. Here in Poland we can carry knives everywhere with almost no restrictions. For edc i can recommend CBK 175 it's so slim and light. Due to push daggers factors its the easiest knife to conceal and great for self defense- try to disarm sb with that kind of knife. Great video, ty
Try cold steel safe maker 1. So far the Best push dagger in my opinion
There's a TH-cam channel called WW1 Great War Fighting Knives, he has a video covering an original Robbins of Dudley with its sheath that you may find interesting, many other WWI knives as well.
I'll have to give it a look. Thanks for the tip.
Push dagger have been around for a very long time e.g the Indian katar circa 14 century.
True, my theory is that the british army experience in India leaned them towards various push daggers like the Robbins
The early push daggers such as the India Katar are held differently and have an independent origin. This style of push dagger is traced back to the gimlet.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias The katar, enclosing the fist, and with two bars top and bottom and the big blade, yes.. and the idea of a spike or blade, gimlet- like, is a cross century, cross cultural thing, used in britain, India, etc.
So my theory is that the british army learned more about such things from India than from gamblers in the American south east.
Interesting that our trench knife was a "standard", "blade up", as was the german trench knife, etc, it was the Brits who went with the "blade perpendicular " thing..
@@wingatebarraclough3553 , the gimlet daggers used in the 19th century New Orleans and San Francisco had both horizontal and vertical blade perpendicular to the handle. They also had simple spikes.
I get that others feel push daggers trace back to India or the Middle East but most sources show this style tracing back to a carpenters Gimlet and New Orleans. Indeed, in the mid 1800’s they were called Gimlet Daggers. It wouldn’t be until around the time this pattern begin migrating to Europe that they were being called , Fist, Punch, and Push Daggers.
I’m from Dudley. Dudley is a Town, part of the Dudley Borough, West Midlands County, West Midlands Region, England. So basically in the US a Region is the equivalent to a State (though much smaller) a County is equivalent to a County, Counties are made up of Boroughs which is your local Council, Boroughs are made up of Cities, Towns and Villages. Dudley is steeped in history, Dudley Castle is in the doomsday book, the Castle was put under seige in the English Civil war twise, first Seige was broken by Royalist forces and the Battle of Tipton Green followed shortly after (Tipton is a nearby town and i went to a school called Tipton Green) the 2nd Seige was successful unfortunately and resulted in Royalist forces abandoning the Castle and Parliamentary forces destroying the Castle. The Castle remains is now a Zoo and parts of the Castle walls can be seen all through the Town. The Castle can still be toured, still flies the Union Flag and St. Georges Cross and has a lovely old cannon pointing off into the distance. There’s some history of Dudley that no one asked for.
No fruits were harmed in this video*
*Other than that cantaloupe.
No innocent fruits.. that cantaloupe looked dangerous, and I'm going to sleep better tonight in gratitude to Tobias for eliminating that threat.
Interesting.
Dudley is in Birmingham UK in a region know as the black country.
Wow what a beauty I’ve never seen anything like this before. I wanted to suggest you make a video how your store your collection but from the looks of this video it appears you store most of your knives hanging up. But how do you store your folding knives I see you have a bunch of more expensive knives like case and Spyderco unfortunately being on disability I’m not in the financial position to spend over 50.00 on knives but I’m happily grateful that you collect a lot of Rough Rider knives and Marbles these brands are in my price range but I’ve subscribed to your channel and I’ve been extremely satisfied with your videos so I thank you for all your helpful information you provided in your videos THANK YOU GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
Actually most of my knives are stored in two wooden dressers with silica gel pads to absorb moisture. This is especially true of folders and most of the carbon steel blades. The room where the knives are stored is kept at 50-60 % humidity and the temp is at around 70 F (21 C) degrees. I check the sheathed knives in the area monthly for signs of rust. And I actually rotate them.
As for Rough Ryders and Marbles, they probably are the bulks of the knives that I have bought when it comes to buying a new knife! I think they are excellent knives for both the collection and the pocket. I've been carrying the same Rough Ryder Toothpick for several years and they knife remains in excellent condition. It has even gone through a couple washer/dryer cycles and is still in great shape! I still think they are probably the best buy on the market (price vs. quality).
My thoughts, on storage is pretty simple. Store them in wooden box or a small wooden dresser. The wood help pull humidity from the knives. I line the boxes with soft cloth to and add a few silica gel pads. And keep them away from plastic. My biggest complaint with Rough Ryders is they put their knives in plastic sleeves. Get them out of those sleeves as soon as you buy them. Also keep your knives out of the light as much as possible, especially direct sunlight or florescent lighting. It breaks down plastics and fades dyes.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias thank you I’ve actually went to harbor freight tool to buy a fake pelican apache 3800 was on sale for $34.99 case after seeing a video from a bunch of different TH-camr’s But I’m really enjoying watching your videos I’m disabled so I have a lot of free time and I’m not really a tv watcher due to it lots of times effects my PTSD but I THANK YOU SO SO. Nothing but respect to you but I seem to enjoy your videos more because you are a little bit older where a lot of others are a bit young here on TH-cam. THANK YOU SIR
I had a stick shift on my 72 Ford pickup truck that look like that
You’re right most Hearst shifter is look like that
I dot not think you poke, rather, stab viciously🤔
When I saw the thumbnail, I thought "converted Estwing hammer". Now it's "do it yourself swordstick". I suppose it's pretty cool, but so emphatically illegal here in the UK that I've probably attracted the attention of the authorities just by watching the video. Interesting however, as always!
cool tool, i love push daggers i buy everyone i see
I'd say this one is almost the pinnacle of perfection when it comes to push daggers. Cold, ruthless, and menacing.
I think Moses had a gimlet👍
Lime juice and gin .