True. I only saw him play once against our beloved Dodgers. It was 10 times better than any other game I attended. Steve Yeager hit a grand slam to blow it open, but just watching Johnny Bench and Tony Perez take batting practice was worth the price of admission. not to mention Pete Rose running so hard to first on a walk you literally thought this man will run through a brick wall. Yes, he should be in HOF. But, we are used to as a country, injustice everywhere unfortunately.
@@vernpascal1531 As a player, there is absolutely no question he did everything with full intensity at the plate and in the field. He did whatever it took to see his team win. However, since 1989 I am in the camp similar to many other fans and media, I hope that the BBWAA and the Hall of Fame can finally relax their rules--whenever that time so those who have a ballot could consider him for induction--again, as a player. On the bottom of the plaque, there should be an asterisk briefly detailing why he bet on the sport and why he was banned in 1989. The asterisk should serve as a reminder that gambling in sports is wrong. No other way to say it.
As I remember, Whitey Ford of the Yankees gave him that moniker. It was a put down because when Whitey saw Pete run to first on a walk, he said "who does he think he is, Charlie Hustle"?
My dad took me to see the reds when I was a kid . Seeing Pete rose in real life blew me away. He was a giant ! He was so passionate about the game and it was infectious… the stadium was electric… bigger than life . May he rest in peace!
I spent the summer of 1971 at Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia. My friends and I would walk over there and we had 3 ways of sneaking in. The management closed off one way in but we had 2 others. I saw the greats at the time the summer from all the NL teams- Roberto Clemente, Tom Seaver, Willie Mays, Steve Carlton, Joe Torre, Lou Brock and Pete Rose. I was a Phillies fan but Pete Rose was my favorite player of all time. In 1971, you could wait at the door for the players to come out after the game to get an autograph, say hi and shake their hands. Pete Rose always stayed until the last kid got his autograph and would stay there chatting baseball. He would play with us, put us in a friendly chokehold and mess up our hair all the time. He was that type of guy. Loved the fans. He always showed his appreciation for the fans and his love for baseball. Everyone crowded around Pete. I used to hope and pray Pete would come to the Phillies as a player. He finally did in 1979 and I knew then that the Phillies were on the way to a World Series Championship which they achieved in 1980. I've always loved Pete Rose for the way he treated us. We were kids from the projects but he made us all feel like kings. The legendary slides, the clutch game winning hits, the Charlie Hustle of baseball still lives in my mind but the friendship he had with us will live in my heart forever. RIP, Mr. Rose, we all still love you.
Amazing story! I too have a story from that time, Phillies Veteran's Stadium and Pete Rose. We lived in NJ and Veteran's Stadium in Philadelphia just opened in 1971. Though Yankees fans, Veteran's Stadium was a shorter drive, so one afternoon in 1971 my Dad drove to Philly and dropped us kids off while he visited relatives. The afternoon game between the Phillies and Reds started but was delayed by heavy rain. Many fans left, thinking "rainout", but thanks to a new device called the "Zamboni" which cleared the water off the outfield, the game would continue. Because many fans left, we kids were able to move down to the box seats and next to the field as the players warmed up to play again. We were calling out to the Reds players for autographs, but only ONE Reds player came over, talked to us, and signed our programs- Pete Rose. I never forgot asking him a question and the answer he gave. While the other kids were yelling out things, I asked a baseball question- "Do you have any baseball advice for me"? He said, without even pausing, "Look for the fastball, adjust for the curve". I was 10 years old, and I ended up playing baseball through college; I never forgot that advice when batting, and never forgot how Pete took the time that rainy day in Philly to talk to us kids.
@@bluemoon-20 Beautiful story! We used to sneak down to 200 & 300 section in the 7th. The ushers knew we were in for free but they liked us and told us if we stayed up in the nosebleed sections, they wouldn't chase us out. Great times back then.
@Youtoo2128 Great story! The ushers could be very "by the book" or nice guys who knew it would make the kids' day. Not to sound like our parents (who used to talk about "the good old days" when they were young), but those days for us as kids were really much simpler than the world the kids today live in. There were no phones with cameras and the internet, no obsession with taking pictures and videos of everything. Just living in the moment, enjoying games like this without technology involved.
Pete said it, but I don't think the MLB will. If MLB did not put Shoeless Joe Jackson in the HOF, there is no way they will put Pete in. And unlike Pete, Joe Jackson never admitted to doing anything wrong or unlawful. Pete admitted to it later on. Joe Jackson probably did not partake on the Black Sox throwing the series and his numbers during that series make a good argument for him. Now Pete, well let's just say that it is a FACT he bet on baseball while he was playing and while he was managing. Once again, Pete admitted to it!!!
@@magnus08f250 It does not matter. He bet on baseball games he was playing and coaching. That's is clearly unlawful! Shoeless Joe Jackson did not partake on anything going on with the Blacksox scandal! Read about how Joe Jackson voiced his contempt and disagreement with being kicked out of MLB. Meanwhile, Pete admitted to betting on baseball (years after denying it!).
Pete was what fans and media call as a five-tool player, meaning he did everything he could to help his team win. I don't know too many people off the top of my head that embodied similar qualities on the field. No question, he paid a huge penalty for what he did in betting on baseball.
I thought it was super cool when he was a player-manager while he was finishing out his career. I grew up a NL fan. Rose earned those hits. The DH is just wrong. Wrong like AstroTurf and inter-league play. And you kids get offa my lawn!
My belief is that not getting in while he was a live was punishment enough. There is no baseball hall of fame without charlie hustle. He personified professional baseball. You cannot tell the story of the history of baseball without mentioning Pete Rose.
@@TL2354 It may have been around before he was born, but it is currently incomplete without him. We live in a time where people who never took a MLB at bat can get in, yet the man who took the most MLB at bats and collected the most hits is not, for something that had nothing to do with his playing career.
@@TL2354 But not to be mistaken, he will never get in. Shoeless Joe had his life ruined and died a broke man, still has not been given his due. the man has the 4th highest career batting average in MLB history. He had his career cut short and still has the numbers to compete with anyone in the hall today. As beautiful and great of a game as baseball is, it is unforgiving.
@@TL2354 I also know that when Pete Rose died, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, sammy sosa, Mark Mcquire, and everyone else who wont get in the hall due to cheating all had a "this is real" moment. They will also never get in and people in the future will be wondering the same things after they're long and gone.
I would agree with you BUT Ichiro Suzuki got nearly 3100 hits and didn't play in the MLB until he was 27. Could I see him coming in at 22 and getting 200+ hits per year for his first 5? ( He did that 10 straight years to start his career) Gotta say yes. If he could come close, well there could be others. Just sayin'. ( and I loved me Charlie Hustle--Bob put it exactly right)
@@ryanrau6714if ichiro had come here as a kid, like, about the same age as ohtani when he came to the u.s, then I believe he would have had 5,500 or 6,000 hits by the time he retired. Ichiro was a truly special hitter.
He may never officially be allowed into the Baseball Hall of Fame but that's just a formality. Even though the Hall of Fame board of directors and leadership team may never allow his name to be listed there baseball fans around the world will still recognize him as one of the best to ever play the game period. His records, some of which will never be broken, transcends whatever title the National Baseball Hall of Fame wants to bestow on him or not. His legendary performances in the game of baseball are so great that by not including him in the Hall of Fame it actually diminishes the legitimacy of that organization. He was bigger than them. RIP Pete Rose.
Bob Costas puts sports history so eloquently and poignantly. I grew up in Pittsburgh during the 1970s and had no love for the Reds or Pete Rose...but I was sad today to think that he would never live to see himself make it to the Hall of Fame. Regardless of what he did in life (let those of us who have not sinned cast the first stone), he WAS and LIVED baseball. He deserves to be in the Hall. They have long since made their point.
Pete Rose's career hits record will never be broken. Even though he took more at-bats to break it than Ty Cobb did, he did it against modern pitching, not a bunch of guys who threw 70-80 mph fastballs, hanging curves, and spitballs.
@RobertStambaugh-l5r weak era. Pete Rose 🌹 played against many great pitchers: Gibson, Koufax, Marichal, Seaver, Ryan, Carlton, Jenkins, Perry,etc. All of them were better than Walter Johnson who is know for cheating.
I'm a life long philly Fan. After suffering through the 1970s...losing to the Dodgers and Reds, I'll never forget when we got Pete Rose. When he signed with the Phillies, I knew we'd win the series...1980 was our year. Thank you Pete Rose HOF RIP.
The wild thing is no one outside of Philadelphia and idk how much it’s discussed inside seems to realize that the Phillies were 97 years old as an organization when Pete helped the Phillies get to and win the World Series
I don’t follow baseball at all, but I know more about him ( his passion for the game ), than any other athlete. He truly love the game of baseball, and he proved it to everyone by his stats and his personal knowledge of it. He seems like a great guy as well. RIP
I always felt we never knew the real story. That we've spent the last 35 years dealing with only the facts they wanted us to deal with. My theory is that he was investigated for so long and so thoroughly and they found so much dirt on him that it was just a giant mess. And that the gambling scandal was a way to package it to the public in a way where his banishment could be justified. I felt that while MLB crucified him on the gambling, they actually protected Pete in a way, being that the gambling might have actually been the least of it. And in my head, he's still Pete Rose. Not banished Pete Rose. Just Pete Rose like I remember him when I was a kid. Thrilling player. One of the best I ever saw.
He liked to be booed during road games and started dropping F- bombs on t-ballers politely asking for autographs during batting practice. Parents come unglued on him and he would skip off smiling ear to ear. Not a far reach on the child molestation charges since he hated 7 year olds enough to curse them. POS never gets in the hall ha ha ha.
We lived in NJ and Veteran's Stadium in Philadelphia just opened in 1971. Though Yankees fans, Veteran's Stadium was a shorter drive, so one afternoon in 1971 my Dad drove to Philly and dropped us kids off while he visited relatives. The afternoon game between the Phillies and Reds started but was delayed by heavy rain. Many fans left, thinking "rainout", but thanks to a new device called the "Zamboni" which cleared the water off the outfield, the game would continue. Because many fans left, we kids were able to move down to the box seats and next to the fence as the players warmed up to play again. We were calling out to the Reds players for autographs, but only ONE Reds player came over, talked to us, and signed our programs- Pete Rose. I never forgot asking him a question and the answer he gave. While the other kids were yelling out things, I asked a baseball question- "Do you have any baseball advice for me"? He said, without even pausing, "Look for the fastball, adjust for the curve". I was 10 years old, and I ended up playing baseball through college; I never forgot that advice when batting, and never forgot how Pete took the time that rainy day in Philly to talk to us kids.
They were never going to let him in while he was alive. They didn't want him to profit off it. It's almost a guarantee he will be in the next induction.
@@BERNARDO712yes he lied, but his records speak of his accomplishments. He has served his lifetime ban. He still deserves a plaque in Cooperstown with all the information good and bad
And MLB supports sports books at every opportunity, including advertising in their ballparks. It's terribly hypocritical. Unfortunately, Pete Rose bet on his own team. I'm sure everyone agrees that this is unacceptable. So, I guess it is a bit complicated.
that is a stupid point. Doesnt matter if they endorse betting. The point of the Rose ban is simply YOU CANT DO IT AS A PLAYER! Use your head. Add to that that he admitted to raping a 14 yr old.
You can be sure that he was running up those stairs at full speed and diving head first under the pearly gates. Because he was Charlie Hustle. As kids, we had a poster of him on the wall at the foot of our bed, because he was my brother’s favorite player, even though we are from Philly and Pete was a Red. I didn’t care much for him until he became a Phillie, and one game, there was a weak little foul pop over near the dugout. Pete, playing first, took off after that pop up, and nobody thought he had a chance to get it. It was an inconsequential play in an inconsequential game, and though he dove and still couldn’t catch it, damn if he didn’t try his best. That was the moment I became a fan of Pete Rose. He was a real character, a vanishing breed, and he gave us all he had. Rest in Peace, Pete.
In listening to all these tributes, no one was saying, "he was a jerk" or anything like that. They say nice things about him. How he would spend time with kids. And, also, he was in the Army Reserves, too. Can't say that much nice about Ty Cobb, but he's in the HOF.
He's the first baseball player I learned about when he was still with The Big Red Machine. I watched the game when he got the record. I cheered him on no matter what. He should have been in the HOF and FUC* anybody and everybody who made that impossible. PETE ROSE = BASEBALL.
my parents and grandparents actually knew pete rose. My grandpa played for the reds, and they even went to Pete’s house. It’s incredibly miserable to seem him pass.
I grew up in Arkansas, a lifetime Cardinal fan, but I always pulled for Pete except when he played St. Louis. He's the greatest player ever, his life is over, lift the ban and put him in the Hall of Fame.
Pete played minor lge baseball in Geneva NY him an Tony Perez in the early 60 s .my old neck of the woods. Hell.of a team the big red machine He came to play ball
Rose was before my time, but for my dad, who is in his early 70s, he said Pete Rose was probably the greatest player he ever saw. My dad grew up a Mets fan and a Willie Mays fan, but as stated in this video, everyone loved watching Rose play as well.
While listing all those reasons he should be in the hall they never mentioned he had ample opportunity to come clean. Then lied about it with a “how dare you” attitude. The guy then goes public after 15 years to admit it. All in a pathetic “Sorry guys, yeah I’m guilty. Can you put me in the hall of fame now” ploy. There’s ample information on the guy in the Hall of Fame museum recognizing him as the all time hits leader, 7:02 along with The Big Red Machine dynasty. So it’s not like he has been scrubbed from the record. And I’m so tired of hearing fans say “Well you have addicts, bigots, wife beaters in there.” Well none of that had anything to do with Pete Rose and his situation. I feel for his family and all that. And his accomplishments on and off the field need to be recognized. But just because he died means he should get in finally.
Really, in a wheelchair with teeth falling out..even his old, former teammates were reportedly alarmed; expressing their concerns over his obvious recent decline
A winner..a leader...played 200% every night...records that will never be broken on on etc etc without any doubt or debate. Who is is tired of FV or anyone else who preaches morality and ethics of OTHERS when a mirror or closet might be the real reason for all their alleged righteous condemnation of other people. PETE ROSE SHOULD BE IN HOF. Ridiculous hes now gone and he never got to give that speech. Fabulous Words Bob Costas!
There are plenty of athletes from every major sport HOF who were no saints. Pete Rose should be in Cooprstown for what he was. One of the best MLB players to ever play the game.
Newsflash! Pete Rose did not need the HOF because he is talked about more every year during HOF ceremonies than any other retired HOF'r ..... all of his accomplishments reviewed every year because he's NOT in the HOF
Baseball should be ashamed that, as Costas said here, justice should have been tempered with mercy. If ANYONE deserved to be in the Hall, it's Pete Rose. This from a lifelong Cardinals fan. BTW, COSTAS SHOULD BE THE COMMISSIONER OF BASEBALL!
For me, it was like Greenie said. My favorite players were Padres, but Pete Rose was one of those exceptions that I liked because their greatness made it impossible to ignore them. My father was a Dodger fan before the Padres joined MLB, and so Cincy was the enemy, but even so he loved Rose because he was an example of how the game should be played -- played with enthusiasm and joy. Charlie Hustle may you rest in peace.
Outstanding Bob, justice tempered with mercy...perfect ! I'm 75 yrs.old, Pete was an is my guy. We're ALL human, we've ALL made mistakes. If the HOF was to vote to put him in, if I were his family, I'd tell them to stick it !!!....Tom
I grew up watching Pete Rose. Pete Rose the player set the ultimate example. I have boycotted even watching a game for decades. I will never spend time or money on MLB as long as PETE ROSE THE PLAYER is not in the Hall of Fame.
I am beyond crushed. I Never cared about him outside of the game. Ppl can say what they want about his personal life. I had his VHS tape as a kid-‘Baseball the Pete Rose Way’-and it turned me from a terrible to great player overnight. It really was like cheating. He became the dad I never had. I watched it every night for 4 years straight, still do sometimes. Everything just clicked afterwards and I took my high school team to win a state championship. If I could, I would go back and lock Pete in Reds Stadium in 1985 so he couldn’t leave to bet, only be able to come out and play baseball. I am sure he is with his Dad now and Dad telling him how proud he is of him. Many dont know, but His dad was his secret weapon. I love you so much Pete. Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you very much, Bob. I was hoping that you would be on someone's show to provide your comments about Pete Rose. I respect your knowledge of baseball and appreciate your insights into the personalities of the players you have admired.
Slightly surprised at Bob's take given how self-righteous he's been in recent years on a host of issues pertaining to sports as well as other areas of our culture. Pleasantly surprised to be sure.
I believe that he should have been induced into the hall of fame,so many other celebrities have been forgiven thanks Bob for the inspiration,and kind words. It's a sad day for baseball.
@@maxine-x4x All one has to do is look at what he did. Baseball is totally corrupted by gambling. You are not being fair because of personal feelings. It's not about feelings.
@@10MinuteTrades No _'personal feelings'_ involved, whatsoever, from these quarters. Ironic _and moronic_ charge leveled in my direction considering the fact that it's you and those like you that assume a position on the matter(shortsighted and monumentally, "ill-advised") that is based largely if not entirely on a debilitating reliance upon "personal feelings" for decision-making purposes which, of course, renders one incapable of exercising objectivity in the process.
I remember that Pete Rose was the most hated player in Shea stadium (due to the fight against him and Mets shortstop Bud Harrelson); but then gain back the respect of baseball fans during his 44-game hitting streak. I also loved the story told by Mickey Mantle about how Whitey Ford and Mick made fun of Rose during an exhibition game, calling Rose "Charlie Hustle". Classic!
Llevo casi 50 años viendo béisbol, soy fan de los Dodgers por mi papá, pero me enamoré de este hermoso juego gracias a Pete Rose! Para mi, por como jugó el ⚾️, y por lo que hizo por el rey de los deportes, Pete Rose debe estar en el Salón de la Fama! Ya pagó con creces el error de haber apostado a favor de su equipo Que en paz descanse el gran Pete Rose!!! Peloterazo
??? He got his 4000th hit as an Expo in 84, he signed as a FA in the off-season after the Phillies WS appearance in 83. The Expos traded him to the Reds during the 84 season.
I mean OJ deserves to be in prison for his crimes but none of that had to do with his career or the integrity of the game. I can’t fathom anyone sticking up for Pete Rose tbh. He made a mistake and has to face the punishment. It is what it is
I never saw an athlete play harder than "Charlie Hustle" RIP Pete Rose, you're in my HOF!!!!
True. I only saw him play once against our beloved Dodgers. It was 10 times better than any other game I attended. Steve Yeager hit a grand slam to blow it open, but just watching Johnny Bench and Tony Perez take batting practice was worth the price of admission. not to mention Pete Rose running so hard to first on a walk you literally thought this man will run through a brick wall. Yes, he should be in HOF. But, we are used to as a country, injustice everywhere unfortunately.
@@vernpascal1531 As a player, there is absolutely no question he did everything with full intensity at the plate and in the field. He did whatever it took to see his team win. However, since 1989 I am in the camp similar to many other fans and media, I hope that the BBWAA and the Hall of Fame can finally relax their rules--whenever that time so those who have a ballot could consider him for induction--again, as a player. On the bottom of the plaque, there should be an asterisk briefly detailing why he bet on the sport and why he was banned in 1989. The asterisk should serve as a reminder that gambling in sports is wrong. No other way to say it.
As I remember, Whitey Ford of the Yankees gave him that moniker. It was a put down because when Whitey saw Pete run to first on a walk, he said "who does he think he is, Charlie Hustle"?
@@MattZ653 Well said Matt.
My dad took me to see the reds when I was a kid . Seeing Pete rose in real life blew me away. He was a giant ! He was so passionate about the game and it was infectious… the stadium was electric… bigger than life . May he rest in peace!
The legacy isn’t complicated….for 23 years he put it all on the line!!!! Pete Rose is the freaking goat
Love Bob Costas! Great person to speak on anything baseball!
I spent the summer of 1971 at Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia. My friends and I would walk over there and we had 3 ways of sneaking in. The management closed off one way in but we had 2 others. I saw the greats at the time the summer from all the NL teams- Roberto Clemente, Tom Seaver, Willie Mays, Steve Carlton, Joe Torre, Lou Brock and Pete Rose. I was a Phillies fan but Pete Rose was my favorite player of all time. In 1971, you could wait at the door for the players to come out after the game to get an autograph, say hi and shake their hands. Pete Rose always stayed until the last kid got his autograph and would stay there chatting baseball. He would play with us, put us in a friendly chokehold and mess up our hair all the time. He was that type of guy. Loved the fans. He always showed his appreciation for the fans and his love for baseball. Everyone crowded around Pete. I used to hope and pray Pete would come to the Phillies as a player. He finally did in 1979 and I knew then that the Phillies were on the way to a World Series Championship which they achieved in 1980. I've always loved Pete Rose for the way he treated us. We were kids from the projects but he made us all feel like kings. The legendary slides, the clutch game winning hits, the Charlie Hustle of baseball still lives in my mind but the friendship he had with us will live in my heart forever.
RIP, Mr. Rose, we all still love you.
Amazing story! I too have a story from that time, Phillies Veteran's Stadium and Pete Rose.
We lived in NJ and Veteran's Stadium in Philadelphia just opened in 1971. Though Yankees fans, Veteran's Stadium was a shorter drive, so one afternoon in 1971 my Dad drove to Philly and dropped us kids off while he visited relatives.
The afternoon game between the Phillies and Reds started but was delayed by heavy rain. Many fans left, thinking "rainout", but thanks to a new device called the "Zamboni" which cleared the water off the outfield, the game would continue.
Because many fans left, we kids were able to move down to the box seats and next to the field as the players warmed up to play again. We were calling out to the Reds players for autographs, but only ONE Reds player came over, talked to us, and signed our programs- Pete Rose.
I never forgot asking him a question and the answer he gave. While the other kids were yelling out things, I asked a baseball question- "Do you have any baseball advice for me"? He said, without even pausing, "Look for the fastball, adjust for the curve".
I was 10 years old, and I ended up playing baseball through college; I never forgot that advice when batting, and never forgot how Pete took the time that rainy day in Philly to talk to us kids.
Wow! Amazing story! This is the kind stories I love to hear about him. What a legend.
@@bluemoon-20 Beautiful story! We used to sneak down to 200 & 300 section in the 7th. The ushers knew we were in for free but they liked us and told us if we stayed up in the nosebleed sections, they wouldn't chase us out. Great times back then.
@Youtoo2128 Great story! The ushers could be very "by the book" or nice guys who knew it would make the kids' day.
Not to sound like our parents (who used to talk about "the good old days" when they were young), but those days for us as kids were really much simpler than the world the kids today live in.
There were no phones with cameras and the internet, no obsession with taking pictures and videos of everything. Just living in the moment, enjoying games like this without technology involved.
Pete often said, "they'll put me in the hof after I die."
Pete said it, but I don't think the MLB will. If MLB did not put Shoeless Joe Jackson in the HOF, there is no way they will put Pete in. And unlike Pete, Joe Jackson never admitted to doing anything wrong or unlawful. Pete admitted to it later on. Joe Jackson probably did not partake on the Black Sox throwing the series and his numbers during that series make a good argument for him. Now Pete, well let's just say that it is a FACT he bet on baseball while he was playing and while he was managing. Once again, Pete admitted to it!!!
@@nikolaivista920did Pete bet his team would lose?
@@magnus08f250 It does not matter. He bet on baseball games he was playing and coaching. That's is clearly unlawful! Shoeless Joe Jackson did not partake on anything going on with the Blacksox scandal! Read about how Joe Jackson voiced his contempt and disagreement with being kicked out of MLB. Meanwhile, Pete admitted to betting on baseball (years after denying it!).
Pete never DH'd an at-bat. Every at-bat was paid for by taking a position in the field.
He didn't get paid every time. He lost several of those bets.
Pete was what fans and media call as a five-tool player, meaning he did everything he could to help his team win. I don't know too many people off the top of my head that embodied similar qualities on the field. No question, he paid a huge penalty for what he did in betting on baseball.
Ex cons are ex cons forever...let him be exiled forever. Hope he knew Jesus
@@MattZ653 He was a tool alright
I thought it was super cool when he was a player-manager while he was finishing out his career. I grew up a NL fan. Rose earned those hits. The DH is just wrong. Wrong like AstroTurf and inter-league play. And you kids get offa my lawn!
My belief is that not getting in while he was a live was punishment enough. There is no baseball hall of fame without charlie hustle. He personified professional baseball. You cannot tell the story of the history of baseball without mentioning Pete Rose.
The Hall of Fame was around before Pete was born so there is a hall of fame without Rose
@@TL2354 It may have been around before he was born, but it is currently incomplete without him. We live in a time where people who never took a MLB at bat can get in, yet the man who took the most MLB at bats and collected the most hits is not, for something that had nothing to do with his playing career.
@@TL2354 But not to be mistaken, he will never get in. Shoeless Joe had his life ruined and died a broke man, still has not been given his due. the man has the 4th highest career batting average in MLB history. He had his career cut short and still has the numbers to compete with anyone in the hall today.
As beautiful and great of a game as baseball is, it is unforgiving.
@@TL2354 I also know that when Pete Rose died, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, sammy sosa, Mark Mcquire, and everyone else who wont get in the hall due to cheating all had a "this is real" moment. They will also never get in and people in the future will be wondering the same things after they're long and gone.
Nobody will ever have 4257 hits
hard to see anyone even get 4000 hits.
I would agree with you BUT Ichiro Suzuki got nearly 3100 hits and didn't play in the MLB until he was 27. Could I see him coming in at 22 and getting 200+ hits per year for his first 5? ( He did that 10 straight years to start his career) Gotta say yes. If he could come close, well there could be others. Just sayin'. ( and I loved me Charlie Hustle--Bob put it exactly right)
@@ryanrau6714if ichiro had come here as a kid, like, about the same age as ohtani when he came to the u.s, then I believe he would have had 5,500 or 6,000 hits by the time he retired. Ichiro was a truly special hitter.
@@arthurjamesaltmann729 In total, he finished with 4,367 hits in his professional career across Japan and the United States.
Roughly 22 years with 200 hits for someone to break Pete's record.. AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!
Charlie Hustle was my late fathers favorite player. I think it's a shame he's not in the hall of fame. I hope it happens posthumously.
_'It's a shame_ he broke the cardinal rule'
He may never officially be allowed into the Baseball Hall of Fame but that's just a formality. Even though the Hall of Fame board of directors and leadership team may never allow his name to be listed there baseball fans around the world will still recognize him as one of the best to ever play the game period. His records, some of which will never be broken, transcends whatever title the National Baseball Hall of Fame wants to bestow on him or not. His legendary performances in the game of baseball are so great that by not including him in the Hall of Fame it actually diminishes the legitimacy of that organization. He was bigger than them. RIP Pete Rose.
Absolutely! Well said sir!
Bob Costas puts sports history so eloquently and poignantly. I grew up in Pittsburgh during the 1970s and had no love for the Reds or Pete Rose...but I was sad today to think that he would never live to see himself make it to the Hall of Fame. Regardless of what he did in life (let those of us who have not sinned cast the first stone), he WAS and LIVED baseball. He deserves to be in the Hall. They have long since made their point.
No way they're putting in a dude than knowingly slept with a 16 year old when he was in his mid 30's.
I wore #14 all through little league babe ruth league and highschool because of Pete Rose. RIP to the legend .
i did too
Pete Rose's career hits record will never be broken. Even though he took more at-bats to break it than Ty Cobb did, he did it against modern pitching, not a bunch of guys who threw 70-80 mph fastballs, hanging curves, and spitballs.
Ty Cobb faced Walter Johnson , the greatest pitcher until Paul Skenes came along this year .
Spitball is hard as hell to hit..
@RobertStambaugh-l5r weak era. Pete Rose 🌹 played against many great pitchers: Gibson, Koufax, Marichal, Seaver, Ryan, Carlton, Jenkins, Perry,etc. All of them were better than Walter Johnson who is know for cheating.
@@RobertStambaugh-l5r LOL, no.
@@ChaeChaeMina
Triple A hits don't count
I'm a life long philly Fan. After suffering through the 1970s...losing to the Dodgers and Reds, I'll never forget when we got Pete Rose. When he signed with the Phillies, I knew we'd win the series...1980 was our year. Thank you Pete Rose HOF RIP.
The wild thing is no one outside of Philadelphia and idk how much it’s discussed inside seems to realize that the Phillies were 97 years old as an organization when Pete helped the Phillies get to and win the World Series
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Got Mr. Rose autograph in Las Vegas in 2019. Huge respect, he was kinda shocked that I was so shocked to see him. lol
I don’t follow baseball at all, but I know more about him ( his passion for the game ), than any other athlete. He truly love the game of baseball, and he proved it to everyone by his stats and his personal knowledge of it. He seems like a great guy as well. RIP
That final quote by Costas is brilliant & sums it all up.
I always felt we never knew the real story. That we've spent the last 35 years dealing with only the facts they wanted us to deal with. My theory is that he was investigated for so long and so thoroughly and they found so much dirt on him that it was just a giant mess. And that the gambling scandal was a way to package it to the public in a way where his banishment could be justified. I felt that while MLB crucified him on the gambling, they actually protected Pete in a way, being that the gambling might have actually been the least of it. And in my head, he's still Pete Rose. Not banished Pete Rose. Just Pete Rose like I remember him when I was a kid. Thrilling player. One of the best I ever saw.
He liked to be booed during road games and started dropping F- bombs on t-ballers politely asking for autographs during batting practice. Parents come unglued on him and he would skip off smiling ear to ear. Not a far reach on the child molestation charges since he hated 7 year olds enough to curse them. POS never gets in the hall ha ha ha.
4,769 prof hits, 1,109 before lowering of mound. 5,929 times on base. 1,972 wins. 3x champ. '75 WS MVP. #letsgoreds #gobucksbeatblue #whodey #nohof
YES! The Big Red Machine! Pete was all heart! He deserves to be in the hall of fame! RIP Charlie Hustle.
We lived in NJ and Veteran's Stadium in Philadelphia just opened in 1971. Though Yankees fans, Veteran's Stadium was a shorter drive, so one afternoon in 1971 my Dad drove to Philly and dropped us kids off while he visited relatives.
The afternoon game between the Phillies and Reds started but was delayed by heavy rain. Many fans left, thinking "rainout", but thanks to a new device called the "Zamboni" which cleared the water off the outfield, the game would continue.
Because many fans left, we kids were able to move down to the box seats and next to the fence as the players warmed up to play again. We were calling out to the Reds players for autographs, but only ONE Reds player came over, talked to us, and signed our programs- Pete Rose.
I never forgot asking him a question and the answer he gave. While the other kids were yelling out things, I asked a baseball question- "Do you have any baseball advice for me"? He said, without even pausing, "Look for the fastball, adjust for the curve".
I was 10 years old, and I ended up playing baseball through college; I never forgot that advice when batting, and never forgot how Pete took the time that rainy day in Philly to talk to us kids.
Pate, Pete Pete! Charlie hustle is just that! My inspiration as a child playing little League. 110% He gave it all!
Baseball will never be forgiven for not giving Pete rose his just due. Now he is gone and they can never make it up to him.
He gambled AND he's a pedo .... but what do you care right? He can hit a baseball so he gets a pass.
They were never going to let him in while he was alive. They didn't want him to profit off it. It's almost a guarantee he will be in the next induction.
F Rose.
He lied for too long.
@@BERNARDO712yes he lied, but his records speak of his accomplishments. He has served his lifetime ban. He still deserves a plaque in Cooperstown with all the information good and bad
He continually lied about betting on baseball. He showed no contrition whatsoever. He didn't respect the game.
One of the best players of all time I don’t care what he did off the field on the field he was one of the greatest
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And MLB supports sports books at every opportunity, including advertising in their ballparks. It's terribly hypocritical.
Unfortunately, Pete Rose bet on his own team. I'm sure everyone agrees that this is unacceptable. So, I guess it is a bit complicated.
that is a stupid point. Doesnt matter if they endorse betting. The point of the Rose ban is simply YOU CANT DO IT AS A PLAYER! Use your head. Add to that that he admitted to raping a 14 yr old.
@@toneybatts1972If rape or ALLEGED rape was a disqualifier , All of the HOF’s would lose half of their inductees….yes…I am naming Kobe
@@toneybatts1972your comparison is disgusting and vile!
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So incredibly well said, Bob Costas!!!!
“Hero’s get remembered but legends never die.”
Real shit.
Rest easy Pete. 🤘🏻
God bless you Pete rest in peace thanks for the awesome memories.
You can be sure that he was running up those stairs at full speed and diving head first under the pearly gates. Because he was Charlie Hustle. As kids, we had a poster of him on the wall at the foot of our bed, because he was my brother’s favorite player, even though we are from Philly and Pete was a Red. I didn’t care much for him until he became a Phillie, and one game, there was a weak little foul pop over near the dugout. Pete, playing first, took off after that pop up, and nobody thought he had a chance to get it. It was an inconsequential play in an inconsequential game, and though he dove and still couldn’t catch it, damn if he didn’t try his best. That was the moment I became a fan of Pete Rose. He was a real character, a vanishing breed, and he gave us all he had. Rest in Peace, Pete.
R.I.P. Pete Rose
I was 9-10 years old when the Big Red Machine went back to back. GO REDS
In listening to all these tributes, no one was saying, "he was a jerk" or anything like that. They say nice things about him. How he would spend time with kids. And, also, he was in the Army Reserves, too. Can't say that much nice about Ty Cobb, but he's in the HOF.
He should be inducted into the Hall of Fame Period
He's the first baseball player I learned about when he was still with The Big Red Machine. I watched the game when he got the record. I cheered him on no matter what. He should have been in the HOF and FUC* anybody and everybody who made that impossible. PETE ROSE = BASEBALL.
If anybody left it all on the field it was Charlie Hustle. The man bled baseball and Cincinnati Red. RIP to maybe the most competitive athlete ever.
my parents and grandparents actually knew pete rose. My grandpa played for the reds, and they even went to Pete’s house. It’s incredibly miserable to seem him pass.
_'pass'_ what, where?
I grew up in Arkansas, a lifetime Cardinal fan, but I always pulled for Pete except when he played St. Louis. He's the greatest player ever, his life is over, lift the ban and put him in the Hall of Fame.
As a Cincinnatian, im so pissed at the mlb and the city feels the same. Disrespectful to our goat not to be in the hall before his passing.
Pete played minor lge baseball in Geneva NY him an Tony Perez in the early 60 s .my old neck of the woods. Hell.of a team the big red machine
He came to play ball
Rose was before my time, but for my dad, who is in his early 70s, he said Pete Rose was probably the greatest player he ever saw. My dad grew up a Mets fan and a Willie Mays fan, but as stated in this video, everyone loved watching Rose play as well.
Betting on baseball had no negative influence on those 4256 hits.
He was a compulsive gambler his entire life.
How do you know?
@@JB-uv4hm addictions are terrible but forgivable.
@TL2354 he was playing and hitting to win. Batting over 300 for 24 years, not only impressive, but difficult to say he struck out on purpose.
I never thought I would agree with Bob Costas on anything. Great perspective !
Bob costas is a broadcasting legend. If you don’t agree with him on much your opinions on sports and baseball in particular are not worth much
@@TheGABRIEL547 There is always a keyboard warrior hard at work in his mom's basement.
The "hitman" will never be forgotten.
Without Pete Rose the baseball hall of fame literally doesn't exist
Well said Bob, I have seen many great players in person play, Mantle , Mays etc but I since was 9 and Pete was 19 , my number has been #14. RIP Pete
While listing all those reasons he should be in the hall they never mentioned he had ample opportunity to come clean. Then lied about it with a “how dare you” attitude. The guy then goes public after 15 years to admit it. All in a pathetic “Sorry guys, yeah I’m guilty. Can you put me in the hall of fame now” ploy.
There’s ample information on the guy in the Hall of Fame museum recognizing him as the all time hits leader, 7:02 along with The Big Red Machine dynasty. So it’s not like he has been scrubbed from the record. And I’m so tired of hearing fans say “Well you have addicts, bigots, wife beaters in there.” Well none of that had anything to do with Pete Rose and his situation.
I feel for his family and all that. And his accomplishments on and off the field need to be recognized. But just because he died means he should get in finally.
Finally, someone who appears to "get it"
As a staunch Dodger fan I hated Pete Rose because how good he was. That's the best hate of respect. Thanks for the memories Rose. Put him in dam it!
Bob Costas, Amen!! You hit it right on the nail!
Bigger than the HOF, Rose was Rose!
Exactly. The shadow he casts over the HOF is real. I wonder if any other sport has a possible GOAT not in its HOF
bob costas is good at what he does. always enjoy his baseball perspectives.
Saw him last Sunday. My son got his ball signed. He looked good.
Really, in a wheelchair with teeth falling out..even his old, former teammates were reportedly alarmed; expressing their concerns over his obvious recent decline
Agreed…beautifully said as only Bob Costas could say it
Hall of Fame, Pete Rose..R.I.P
A winner..a leader...played 200% every night...records that will never be broken on on etc etc without any doubt or debate. Who is is tired of FV or anyone else who preaches morality and ethics of OTHERS when a mirror or closet might be the real reason for all their alleged righteous condemnation of other people. PETE ROSE SHOULD BE IN HOF. Ridiculous hes now gone and he never got to give that speech. Fabulous Words Bob Costas!
There are plenty of athletes from every major sport HOF who were no saints. Pete Rose should be in Cooprstown for what he was. One of the best MLB players to ever play the game.
Newsflash! Pete Rose did not need the HOF because he is talked about more every year during HOF ceremonies than any other retired HOF'r ..... all of his accomplishments reviewed every year because he's NOT in the HOF
Exactly, good point.
Them stinking assholes might have made him more rememdered!😂😂😂
Baseball should be ashamed that, as Costas said here, justice should have been tempered with mercy. If ANYONE deserved to be in the Hall, it's Pete Rose. This from a lifelong Cardinals fan.
BTW, COSTAS SHOULD BE THE COMMISSIONER OF BASEBALL!
Nothing Pete Rose did off the field contributed to his 4,256 hits. He didn't cheat the record books. Put him in the HOF.
Dude used a corked bat, my man.
@@VCT3333 hahaha he was a base hit hitter, corked bat wouldn't have made a difference my man
Great words Bob Costas Legend
He should be in the hall of fame. Period
I don't care about the HOF at all, Pete was simply my favorite baseball player ever, nothing can change that. For me, he's bigger than the HOF.
For me, it was like Greenie said. My favorite players were Padres, but Pete Rose was one of those exceptions that I liked because their greatness made it impossible to ignore them. My father was a Dodger fan before the Padres joined MLB, and so Cincy was the enemy, but even so he loved Rose because he was an example of how the game should be played -- played with enthusiasm and joy. Charlie Hustle may you rest in peace.
Outstanding Bob, justice tempered with mercy...perfect ! I'm 75 yrs.old, Pete was an is my guy. We're ALL human, we've ALL made mistakes. If the HOF was to vote to put him in, if I were his family, I'd tell them to stick it !!!....Tom
He payed what he owed. It was a lifetime ban. It's a shame he didn't get in before he passed. He was my first hero. My childhood officialy has ended.
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@TL2354 yeah a lifetime ban...he passed away. He's square with the house again.
_'passed'_ what?
@@maxine-x4x died
@@maxine-x4x died
I remember watching him as a kid when he played for the Phillies he was an amazing player no one will break his hit record
LEGEND
Hes got 5 to 1 odds to enter Heaven.
But in all seriousness, RIP to the legend
I grew up watching Pete Rose. Pete Rose the player set the ultimate example. I have boycotted even watching a game for decades. I will never spend time or money on MLB as long as PETE ROSE THE PLAYER is not in the Hall of Fame.
Costas always has a way of words. That last bit was vintage Bob Costas!!!!
Yeah, _'vintage'_ *BS*
If only some of the players from today could play like Pete Rose. I was lucky to see Pete play.
I am beyond crushed. I Never cared about him outside of the game. Ppl can say what they want about his personal life. I had his VHS tape as a kid-‘Baseball the Pete Rose Way’-and it turned me from a terrible to great player overnight. It really was like cheating. He became the dad I never had. I watched it every night for 4 years straight, still do sometimes. Everything just clicked afterwards and I took my high school team to win a state championship. If I could, I would go back and lock Pete in Reds Stadium in 1985 so he couldn’t leave to bet, only be able to come out and play baseball. I am sure he is with his Dad now and Dad telling him how proud he is of him. Many dont know, but His dad was his secret weapon. I love you so much Pete. Thank you 🙏🏼
Feel badly about his passing, but "Charlie Hustle" sure is right, what a fearless player. RIP. You're among many greats.
Thank you very much, Bob. I was hoping that you would be on someone's show to provide your comments about Pete Rose. I respect your knowledge of baseball and appreciate your insights into the personalities of the players you have admired.
I could listen to Pete Rose tell baseball stories all day long. He's probably still telling them now.
Most inspirational player ever. End of conversation.
No one could compare with The Pete, no one.
Don't put him in the hall of fame now. He should've been in. What he did as a manager had nothing to do with his playing career. R.I.P. Pete Rose
Slightly surprised at Bob's take given how self-righteous he's been in recent years on a host of issues pertaining to sports as well as other areas of our culture. Pleasantly surprised to be sure.
Thanks Bob.
I believe that he should have been induced into the hall of fame,so many other celebrities have been forgiven thanks Bob for the inspiration,and kind words. It's a sad day for baseball.
Baseball will never be forgiven! Put Pete in the hall of fame!
Bob Costas, a true artist with the English language.
Costas is a buffoon
Everyone knows Pete deserves to be in the Hall.....Everyone.
Hardly. _'Everyone'_ lacking in reasoning capability, that is.
@@maxine-x4x All one has to do is look at what he did. Baseball is totally corrupted by gambling. You are not being fair because of personal feelings. It's not about feelings.
@@10MinuteTrades No _'personal feelings'_ involved, whatsoever, from these quarters. Ironic _and moronic_ charge leveled in my direction considering the fact that it's you and those like you that assume a position on the matter(shortsighted and monumentally, "ill-advised") that is based largely if not entirely on a debilitating reliance upon "personal feelings" for decision-making purposes which, of course, renders one incapable of exercising objectivity in the process.
I was a baseball fanatic as a kid. I remember at 6 yrs old my dad saying Pete Rose. That's how you play baseball. He wasn't wrong.
Rip Pete Rose your a true legend.
I remember that Pete Rose was the most hated player in Shea stadium (due to the fight against him and Mets shortstop Bud Harrelson); but then gain back the respect of baseball fans during his 44-game hitting streak.
I also loved the story told by Mickey Mantle about how Whitey Ford and Mick made fun of Rose during an exhibition game, calling Rose "Charlie Hustle".
Classic!
Really well said Bob
Llevo casi 50 años viendo béisbol, soy fan de los Dodgers por mi papá, pero me enamoré de este hermoso juego gracias a Pete Rose!
Para mi, por como jugó el ⚾️, y por lo que hizo por el rey de los deportes, Pete Rose debe estar en el Salón de la Fama!
Ya pagó con creces el error de haber apostado a favor de su equipo
Que en paz descanse el gran Pete Rose!!!
Peloterazo
The greatest player of all time
he never played for the Expos. RIP Pete, you are a hall of famer for us fans!
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He got his 4000th hit as an Expo in 84, he signed as a FA in the off-season after the Phillies WS appearance in 83.
The Expos traded him to the Reds during the 84 season.
Pete Rose was the best player I ever seen
RIP Pete
You're missed immensely
You can never have an interview with Costas without hearing the words "Mickey Mantle". Never....
Right or wrong??? God can only say that. The man knew his game, played hard n loved it😊❤
They couldn't honor him when he was still alive and now is he is gone. Sad, the man is a HOF, period!!!
Well said Bob
Nobody ever loved the game more than Pete. In that regard he was luckier than all of us.
There not be nutter one like Mr Pete rose 🌹 ⚾️💪⚾️💪⚾️💪⚾️💪⚾️💪⚾️💪⚾️💪⚾️🙏✌️👍🫡
O.J. Simpson’s in the Hall of Fame and Pete Rose is not that sad
I mean OJ deserves to be in prison for his crimes but none of that had to do with his career or the integrity of the game. I can’t fathom anyone sticking up for Pete Rose tbh. He made a mistake and has to face the punishment. It is what it is
OJ is in the baseball hall of fame?
@@BrunoSox23bruh..
He committed a crime UNRELATED to the sport or harm the integrity of the game.
Rose was a gambler AND a pedo.
Look it up.
@@username-zj9id same smell. OJ did it, whether they convicted him or not. You said it yourself. 🤦♂️🥴🤡