Lionfish are not poisonous, they are venomous. The difference between poison and venom is the method of delivery. Venom must be injected into the bloodstream to cause injury, such as through a sharp spine or fang, but is harmless if drunk or eaten. Poison has to be ingested or absorbed to be harmful; lionfish carry no poison in the edible meat of the fish.
But wouldn't drinking the venom get it into the bloodstream eventually? Does venom just get diluted too much somehow to be dangerous by eating or drinking it? Is that why it must be injected DIRECTLY into the bloodstream in order to be effective?
@@matthewcaughey8898 Yeah. And from what I hear, they're quite tasty. Too bad that they have high mercury and are quite expensive for so little meat. And worst of it all, they're hard to catch, because they live deep in the ocean reefs, have poor eyesights, and are slow. That means they can't be caught with fishing lines -- they can only be caught by dive spears. And scuba diving is expensive.
You are Correct ! Poisonous and Venomous are two VERY different things ... Most People (including those putting these video's together) , haven't a Clue , apparently ....
Yup, immediately had to mute it. No clue why ppl think anyone wants to listen to hyped up techno music for nature docs. Either the natural noises of the nature itself, or something chill and not distracting from the footage.
Lionfish swim slow but can turn on a dime, can quickly turn their venomous spines against any predators... They're virtually indestructible, why they multiplied like crazy, and why reefs are dying...
Divers are teaching groupers, eels and sharks to include the lion fish (invasive species), Into their daily diets. This is a interesting technique, to help control a predatory fish. Lion fish prey on the native species who help keep reef habitats healthy.
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yes, they are native in ido-pacific, only invasive in west atlantic coast (in this case from Massachusetts, USA (North) to Rio de Janaeiro, Brazil (South), because they were introduced, and in Mediterranean Sea, from Syria (East) to Tunisia (West) and from Libya (South) to Turkey (North), because the Suez Canal.
Alan Guadarrama They need to get rid of them, since they’re invasive species that are not native or not naturally living in the Caribbean and Atlantic oceans and they’re destroying native species of fish in the oceans, causing their populations to decline and limit the Caribbean and American food supply. The divers kill them for either research or to feed people on the mainland to get rid of them.
Why are scuba divers spearfishing those lion fish? Oh, yeah, right, they are an "invasive" species. Man, I wonder what the lion fish call the divers, then. Maybe something along the lines of "the ultimate self-appointed arbiters of what should and shouldn't be underwater"? Or maybe "self righteous assholes"? I wonder.
@@Devastator_1 Thanks for keeping me straight, as I meant Pythons, not Boas. Both big snakes. Good to know folk are taking them down. Time for marketing them as a food source, like the lionfish. "Tastes like chicken." lol
I know the lion fish is causing harm to the reef but it is still very pretty. I'm glad the eel didn't get to eat it. I knw there are competitions to catch the most lion fish in Florida but i don't like watching them get stabbed/grabbed. Poor guy didn't ask to be born this way. Sharks kill ppl and nobody is having shark catching contests. It's upsetting.
We screwed up the environment by accidentally introducing them there, and the native species that are getting eaten to almost Extinction didn't ask for that to happen either. In this case it's like killing a suicide bomber to save way more people. Someone will die, depends on how many dead you want
@@Flarflenugen Thanks for the analogy. Suicide bomber is scary, but lion fish aren't. But I get what you're trying to say. I'm probably going to get a bunch negative remarks but I will say it anyway..... We should start killing sharks (great whites, hammer heads, bull sharks, ) to start.
@@violetlove1893 sharks are already endangered and are useful to the environment. Lion sharks are too, but not in the Caribbean. Right place, you know? Cats are another good one, they are incredibly invasive and have killed a lot of birds and have destroyed some species of birds. They are very bad for the environment, and that is why there are shelters that will spay and neuter them so they can't reproduce. My cat is actually an ex feral that I took in and is now next to me, lovely pets, but horrible for the animals around
@@Flarflenugen aww you have a kitty cat. They are quite snobby sometimes, but still comforting. I'm severely allergic so no cats for me. But they do love birds and I love to protect birds.
Very expensive hobby. Diving is expensive, you know. 2 dives (wetsuit and tanks provided) usually cost around $200~300. And that's assuming you already have the open water diving license (~$700). And you can dive only ~30 min per dive (usually less at the depth where lionfish is), but preparing, cleaning up, boat ride, etc all take 2~3 hours. Actually, you would at least need Advanced license for the depth where lionfish is, so that's even more expensive. I'm sure there are other licenses for being able to wield the spears and stuff. Diving is a very expensive sport.
Well it didn't win. First of all it was wounded by the spearfisherman or the moray would not get that close. Note that it was going for the head. All fish,eels, sharks etc seem to know that they have to get the head and kill it first. I saw a 25 lb white snapper nail a wounded lionfish that way, and have seen nurse sharks do it also. Groupers just swallow them whole.
it is gonna take every diver working hard to control these rascals - here is my contribution to the effort in Cayman - th-cam.com/video/YLAeeYwfcl4/w-d-xo.html - feeding snapper and th-cam.com/video/6_BdtOFi_mg/w-d-xo.html - Feeding Moray
They need to attack it from the front. Fish dont know this yet because its a new invasive species. But they are starting to learn from what I see on other youtube videoes. King crabs are invading northern norway in swarms since the russians released theme at Murmask in the 1960s. They belong at the pacific. They kill alot of fish offspring, but we see wolffish, cod and other local fish feeding on them keeping the population down as much as they can, but the killing of the fisheggs and young is still not a good thing. Same is with lionfish
Venomous, not poisonous. This is an important distinction as poison affects victims via ingestion. Venom must be injected into the bloodstream. Lionfish are great to eat, even raw. Venom can be ingested without consequence. Also this music is terrible and unnecessary.
I fail to understand how you can sit here an say that the green moray is a predator on lion fish, when it appears the moray didn't eat the lion fish.. Not a very good predator..
Admiral54 Barns: thats a pretty immature thing to say. Eels are vicious predators. These fish MUST GO if they can eat all the eel's prey and not get eaten by the eel. That leaves us with JUST lion fish. Not good!
You obviously cannot understand English. I didn't say the lion fish was a good thing at all. It must be wiped out for sure. What I said was, the Eel did NOT eat the lion fish, so the eel obviously isn't that great of a predator on these fish.
Admiral54 Barns actually there's no predator on these fish at all... this why they are being hunted by humans... alot of divers tried to teach sharks eels and even octopus to prey on them... but other than that... think about that... he got spines every where and its venomous. its kinda hard for the eel to prey on them
Well, that was my point yogef tmax. You're right. But the maker of this video put this as the title, "Caribbean invasive species, Lion fish and its two main predators: man and moray eels" And that was the point. The video maker didn't title it correct. The eel wasn't a good predator. Humans are though.
Lionfish are not poisonous, they are venomous. The difference between poison and venom is the method of delivery. Venom must be injected into the bloodstream to cause injury, such as through a sharp spine or fang, but is harmless if drunk or eaten. Poison has to be ingested or absorbed to be harmful; lionfish carry no poison in the edible meat of the fish.
But wouldn't drinking the venom get it into the bloodstream eventually? Does venom just get diluted too much somehow to be dangerous by eating or drinking it? Is that why it must be injected DIRECTLY into the bloodstream in order to be effective?
@@dexm2010 nope, the venom is in the spines, not the meat. People actually do eat lionfish
@ le lo Ok I understand now. Thank you.
@@Jordan-db2og how about the spines impaling the throat
@@mouth7137 obviously no one would purpousfully eat the spines but if a predator does swallow it it will survive
When an eel bites your thigh and you bleed out and die, that's a Moray.
Young people will not get this
Damn that was clever pmsl
Lol!
Ding ding ding-a-ling ding ding ding-a-ling.
Damn. That's one of my favorite songs and now I can't unhear these lyrics! Lol
the spines are not as painful as the music is
I agree. After a while, you'll get used to the spines sticking you and won't hurt so much . The music is up for debate.
yogev tmax this Music is Venomous
@@yogevtmax4816 it can't kill you (unless you have an allergic reaction) but it does hurt
Mute
This is one os the most repetitivo music On videos that's why
It's amazing how adept the fish is at keeping the spines turned toward the eel, even swimming upside down.
Same as pocupine with Lions
That Moray Eel was inexperienced at hunting Lionfish. Give enough times and he/she will have a strategy.
I was thinking if the eel bit the tail, then it could go for the head.
This is exactly why the lionfish are thriving. Lionfish just aren't worth the risk for most predators.
That’s why we need to be eating them too. Unlike most things in the ocean we can cut off the spines and or negate the venom when we cook it
@@matthewcaughey8898 Yeah. And from what I hear, they're quite tasty. Too bad that they have high mercury and are quite expensive for so little meat.
And worst of it all, they're hard to catch, because they live deep in the ocean reefs, have poor eyesights, and are slow. That means they can't be caught with fishing lines -- they can only be caught by dive spears. And scuba diving is expensive.
Why not just kill them..?
@@n0tzyx because they taste great. And they aren’t really fishy
@@n0tzyx You think people will kill them for free? Killing them is a lot of work. And expensive. People have better things to do.
Wow this footage is amazing thank you so much for capturing and sharing Love this!
Fascinating behavior seeing the Lionfish keeping its dorsal fin spines oriented to the Morays face/mouth no matter its position in the water column.
Nice clear, HD video and beautiful colors. Thumbs up.
I didn't know Lion Fish attended underwater raves.
they way the eel moved backwards in response to the spines reminded me of a dog
Damn those fish are smart always pointing the spine at them
Very beautiful fish. Love watching this video
Bless the soothing music of the second part
Edit: well, that didn't last long
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When even a moray eel won't touch it, you know it's a total PoS!
0:17 wrong.. Not poisonous they are venomous.
got lost ins translation!
Jinpack that is true lion fish are one of my favorite fish
You are Correct ! Poisonous and Venomous are two VERY different things ... Most People (including those putting these video's together) , haven't a Clue , apparently ....
Omg thank you
If you eat it and it kills you: poisonous
If you touch it and it kills you: venomous
@@batpoisonz what about if it bites you and then you eat it and die ?
Amazing how they all know each other and the capabilities.... Nature rocks!!!
Nature sucks
Great footage but extremely annoying music.
And subtitles too!
I thought it was nice
Yup, immediately had to mute it. No clue why ppl think anyone wants to listen to hyped up techno music for nature docs. Either the natural noises of the nature itself, or something chill and not distracting from the footage.
@@mrs.h2725 Exactly my thoughts!
Lionfish swim slow but can turn on a dime, can quickly turn their venomous spines against any predators... They're virtually indestructible, why they multiplied like crazy, and why reefs are dying...
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Lion fish, handsome, arrogant and deadly...like an eXboyfriend.
I was expecting the divers to feed the lionfish to the eel like how they feed barracudas.
Divers are teaching groupers, eels and sharks to include the lion fish (invasive species), Into their daily diets. This is a interesting technique, to help control a predatory fish. Lion fish prey on the native species who help keep reef habitats healthy.
That is beautiful picture, but a sad story.
Why are they killing the Lionfish with the harpune?? I didnt get it....
It's an invasive species and they want all of them dead
2:15 what spear silencer you got on that one? Jeez the other spears was loud as heck! Lololololol
The spines are venomous, not poisonous
3:41 what fish is that next to the moray, it's pretty but I've Never seen it before
Squirrel Fish
Speared, half dead lion fish, swimming belly up is attacked by a curious eel!
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I loved the whole thing, including the music! Great footage, good editing, amazing eel - I was surprised that he retreated.
Btw moray eel shows up at 2:31...
Lion fish can’t help eating everything around them. People brought them to North America.
Make lionfish into fish sticks and I will buy it.
the eel felt the pain. where is the grouper or the 'cuda to finish the job ?
Spoiler Alert....the Moray loses.
Question when a predator [like the green moray, groupers, ect...] can they or do they develop toxic meat?
The first half could have been cut.. at one point it looked like video of one in a fishtank.
I use to see them on Guam all the time. I guess they are native to those waters around Guam?
yes, they are native in ido-pacific, only invasive in west atlantic coast (in this case from Massachusetts, USA (North) to Rio de Janaeiro, Brazil (South), because they were introduced, and in Mediterranean Sea, from Syria (East) to Tunisia (West) and from Libya (South) to Turkey (North), because the Suez Canal.
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the only thing more painful then the lion fish sting is the music...
Nice video!
I wonder how an electric eel would handle it?
It’s from fresh water.
@@artiejones6417 I know that and still wonder hum?
Why does the divers kills them?
Alan Guadarrama : because they have eaten all the local fish.
Because they are like people in the ghetto. They just keep breeding and fucking up the habitat.
Alan Guadarrama
They need to get rid of them, since they’re invasive species that are not native or not naturally living in the Caribbean and Atlantic oceans and they’re destroying native species of fish in the oceans, causing their populations to decline and limit the Caribbean and American food supply.
The divers kill them for either research or to feed people on the mainland to get rid of them.
Because whoever spread them to the caribbean sucks
This Green Moray Eel is hungry and it wants to eat this Lionfish that has been caught by a diver.
Lionfish taste good. White flaky meat that's not too strong. We need to find a way to catch them more easily and start eating them.
Predators of the lion fish: Barracuda(I think), moray eel, lion fish
I felt bad for the lionfish you speared
Title should be feeding a lionfish to a Green Eel
Glad to see some predators going for them.
Why are scuba divers spearfishing those lion fish? Oh, yeah, right, they are an "invasive" species. Man, I wonder what the lion fish call the divers, then. Maybe something along the lines of "the ultimate self-appointed arbiters of what should and shouldn't be underwater"? Or maybe "self righteous assholes"? I wonder.
They have stung me multiple times but had no reaction lol
you're too dense lol
@@glowiever not really
Getting spined by a fish is surprisingly painfull.
@@bluemountaindrivepae I know
Moray eels are the key to destroying the invasive lion fish
Lion fish spines don,y efect morray eels and moray eels eat everything
There is a balance. No Lion fish means lots of Crown of thorns!!
Well they way the eel is approaching the fish it's obviously poison to the eel.
Name of music? Dope.
Spearing the lionfish is not a natural way for the eel to feed so it's all false
Predator has to know how to eat Lion fish!
Head first!
That's why lion fish all ways turning, pointing it's spikes toward the predator!
We should be rooting for the eel since the lionfish help destroy the reefs
With all the men and women in prison. Why not train them to dive and get rid of the Lionfish?
Sensible Moray.
The Lion fish needs a bounty placed on them. Same w/ the Boa snakes invading Florida and the lower S. Eastern US. Eradicate!!!
V. E. I believe that Burmese Pythons do have bounty. They do have large annual hunts and some people are certified to do it year round
@@Devastator_1 Thanks for keeping me straight, as I meant Pythons, not Boas. Both big snakes. Good to know folk are taking them down. Time for marketing them as a food source, like the lionfish. "Tastes like chicken." lol
V. E. No problem
I know the lion fish is causing harm to the reef but it is still very pretty. I'm glad the eel didn't get to eat it.
I knw there are competitions to catch the most lion fish in Florida but i don't like watching them get stabbed/grabbed. Poor guy didn't ask to be born this way. Sharks kill ppl and nobody is having shark catching contests. It's upsetting.
We screwed up the environment by accidentally introducing them there, and the native species that are getting eaten to almost Extinction didn't ask for that to happen either.
In this case it's like killing a suicide bomber to save way more people. Someone will die, depends on how many dead you want
@@Flarflenugen Thanks for the analogy. Suicide bomber is scary, but lion fish aren't. But I get what you're trying to say. I'm probably going to get a bunch negative remarks but I will say it anyway..... We should start killing sharks (great whites, hammer heads, bull sharks, ) to start.
@@violetlove1893 sharks are already endangered and are useful to the environment. Lion sharks are too, but not in the Caribbean. Right place, you know?
Cats are another good one, they are incredibly invasive and have killed a lot of birds and have destroyed some species of birds. They are very bad for the environment, and that is why there are shelters that will spay and neuter them so they can't reproduce. My cat is actually an ex feral that I took in and is now next to me, lovely pets, but horrible for the animals around
@@Flarflenugen aww you have a kitty cat. They are quite snobby sometimes, but still comforting. I'm severely allergic so no cats for me. But they do love birds and I love to protect birds.
too bad the green moray didn't get to eat a lionfish lunch.
Lion fish is beast
They both bite me in Cuba
This is ILLEGAL!!
Lion fish are so fucking awesome
That would be a cool hobby: lionfish hunting.
Very expensive hobby. Diving is expensive, you know. 2 dives (wetsuit and tanks provided) usually cost around $200~300. And that's assuming you already have the open water diving license (~$700). And you can dive only ~30 min per dive (usually less at the depth where lionfish is), but preparing, cleaning up, boat ride, etc all take 2~3 hours.
Actually, you would at least need Advanced license for the depth where lionfish is, so that's even more expensive. I'm sure there are other licenses for being able to wield the spears and stuff. Diving is a very expensive sport.
@@michaelsong5555 Well, a girl can daydream. I already have a couple expensive hobbies that are actually doable given where I live.
@@strawberrygoldfish Ah. In that case, go for it.
Well it didn't win. First of all it was wounded by the spearfisherman or the moray would not get that close. Note that it was going for the head. All fish,eels, sharks etc seem to know that they have to get the head and kill it first. I saw a 25 lb white snapper nail a wounded lionfish that way, and have seen nurse sharks do it also. Groupers just swallow them whole.
good video
Même la murène verte a du mal : d'ailleurs, elle n'arrive pas à la tuer sans risque de s'électrocuter, n'est ce pas ?
Non, les épines ont du poison, pas de charge électrique.
OK !
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Sweet fuck that music gave me anxiety
They need to be attacked from the rear and you're gonna need to be happy with just the back half.
Lion fish are like roaches... They reproduce solo much
it is gonna take every diver working hard to control these rascals - here is my contribution to the effort in Cayman - th-cam.com/video/YLAeeYwfcl4/w-d-xo.html - feeding snapper and th-cam.com/video/6_BdtOFi_mg/w-d-xo.html - Feeding Moray
Moray and Honey Badger are not fooled.
Need Jaguar's killing pythons in Florida
That’s a moray 😂
First 00:07 - 01:40 was best sound track to anything ever filmed!
Could have, should have just chomped off the tail portion of the fish!
To all the divers that killed the lionfish, you'll be killed back in hell the same way as what you all have been doing to the fish
Oceangoing porcupines.
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Venomous. Not poisonous.
They need to attack it from the front. Fish dont know this yet because its a new invasive species. But they are starting to learn from what I see on other youtube videoes. King crabs are invading northern norway in swarms since the russians released theme at Murmask in the 1960s. They belong at the pacific. They kill alot of fish offspring, but we see wolffish, cod and other local fish feeding on them keeping the population down as much as they can, but the killing of the fisheggs and young is still not a good thing. Same is with lionfish
Venomous, not poisonous. This is an important distinction as poison affects victims via ingestion. Venom must be injected into the bloodstream. Lionfish are great to eat, even raw. Venom can be ingested without consequence. Also this music is terrible and unnecessary.
What are you killing the lion fish? It makes no sense.
It is an invasive species in that region, and they are threatening to push out more endangered native species.
Google search "Lion Fish" then it will make sense.
End part is little interesting....cut the 1st part .....
Also watch this creature in Aquarium....th-cam.com/video/JyK-E6uK5z8/w-d-xo.html
Well anaconda,pythoon vs lion fish
That fucking music.
I fail to understand how you can sit here an say that the green moray is a predator on lion fish, when it appears the moray didn't eat the lion fish.. Not a very good predator..
Admiral54 Barns: thats a pretty immature thing to say. Eels are vicious predators. These fish MUST GO if they can eat all the eel's prey and not get eaten by the eel. That leaves us with JUST lion fish. Not good!
You obviously cannot understand English. I didn't say the lion fish was a good thing at all. It must be wiped out for sure. What I said was, the Eel did NOT eat the lion fish, so the eel obviously isn't that great of a predator on these fish.
Admiral54 Barns actually there's no predator on these fish at all... this why they are being hunted by humans... alot of divers tried to teach sharks eels and even octopus to prey on them... but other than that... think about that... he got spines every where and its venomous. its kinda hard for the eel to prey on them
Well, that was my point yogef tmax. You're right. But the maker of this video put this as the title,
"Caribbean invasive species, Lion fish and its two main predators: man and moray eels"
And that was the point. The video maker didn't title it correct. The eel wasn't a good predator. Humans are though.
Dang. Better luck next time. I hope it keeps trying.
Their not poisonous but venomous
Bait and switch
cool
Music has to go
The eel could have win
homo sapiens ????? why kill ?
lion fish wins. The new king of the ocean.