I just came across your channel as I am thinking about laying my patio this year. Just wanted to say thanks for all your advice and encouragement. A great channel. 👍
Great Video, answers many of my questions, I followed your steps on previous video (point with wet mix and cleaning off with bucket and sponge), came up great 👍
Could have done with this video 4 weeks ago as wasn't completely sure and the manufacturer of the slabs said they didn't need priming. I found out the hard way and had to start using this type of slurry which makes a HUGE difference!!! Thanks again
Hi John, I'm on second lot of Landscaper, I'm having such a bad time , I have been scammed b4 these and I had paid up front, but these have not been paid it really is a nightmare. Thank you for your advice. I think I will also call the stone merchant about some of the deep ridges I have in mine, I wish you were local to I would get you to do it. I may send pictures to your email. They are supposed to be coming back today to lift the one slab !!
@@GreentopLandscapes Hi John, I really couldn't make this stuff up, 2 of the paving slabs are too high and two one of them damaged chipping away at it with a metal crowbar !! I couldn't open my patio doors properly, anyway he came back last Tues unannounced and looked at then said he would lift and replace the lot , I said really ? So hey ho took the paving stone and ran not heard since, thank god I had not paid him for crap work. But this team of cowboys are on the Trading Standards Buy with Confidence site !!!! So what hope do we have ?? Fed up with the lot of it. I'm just praying that someone genuine will help me sort it out perhaps b4 next Christmas, but I cant tell you just how gutted i am.
Great video I had the honed fitted two years ago and everything is fine. I wanted to mention the sealing I've not done so but what are the advantages and disadvantages? Thanks Ben.
@@GreentopLandscapes Thanks but is this something you have to do every other year? also does it flake off and look a mess? I like the honed smooth feel its great I don't want to spoil it.
Alright Johnny boy , great video again I think I am going to take the plunge in using slurry on sandstone I guess it’s time to adapt with the times although like I said I before never had an issue but love to learn , also would like to show you at some point a meandering water feature I made for a client last summer . All the best
Hi Ben mate, you and me to brother, its never late to learn, I would love to see that meandering water feature. are you on our landscaping group on Facebook Mate?
Hi there. Superb advice here that no-one told us when we've been getting quotes for a patio we want with porcelain. But I love the stone you've used in this. Can you tell me what one it was? We want a non riven stone so not the Kandla or similar and thought it was only the porcelain that would fit the 'smooth' brief. We just don't want any waterlogging like we have with another patio we have within the undulations of the surface. Jetwashing is a long job and we don't always have time so this stone looks great. Many thanks.
Hi, Thanks for video. May I ask you I have prepared my base with road base and compacted it well. Does it have to be 100 % level. It has few high and low spots at few places that I am not able to rectify to 100 %. Would adding pavers sand on next step not fix these few spots. As I am doing pavers 60 cm x60 cm x 2cm(thick) sandstone pavers installation how much would you recommend that pavers sand should be poured in. I was thinking 2-3 cm. Please share. Thank You !
Hi John, I have a rectangle pond finished in concrete block, I am about to cement the coping stones tomorrow which are 1200x330x20mm porcelain . My question is....... I dont think i can use any additives to a slurry mix just in case anything leaches back into the pond over time... I have never used a slurry before... Can i just make a sharp sand and cement slurry without any additives ? if so what mix would you advise please mate. and also do i apply the slurry to the blockwork 1st. then put my bed of muck, then slurry the back of the tile also ? Thanks
Hi Bud, try and use an adhesive from a tube for coping stones for this sort of job as it will not leach into the pond, its the water based additives that break down as the solvent based ones that have the fixers in them that don't break down like the water based ones if that makes sense.
Hi, I've just fitted mint honed sandstone for a customer and they have complained that there are some stains. I've gone to take a look and they've left some wood on the sandstone before I have sealed. what's the best way to get the stain out, its a brownish colour.
Your videos have given me the confidence to do my own patio in a couple of weeks, it's going to be sandstone slabs boarded all the way around by oak sleepers. Can you tell me what I should fill the gap around the edge of the patio between slabs and sleepers with, is it ok to use jointing compound? I'm just concerned with any possible movement from the sleepers and it cracking the compound.
Hi Johnny I’m going to be laying some very old sandstone flags that were lifted out of a farm byre a few years ago tha farmer has agreed to give me them fairly cheap and there must be around 10 tons of them however they range from 2” to 4” would you use a priming slurry on them or just a very deep mortar bed at around 6:1 mix ? Danny
Hi Danny mate hope your well, these are real flag stone just 6 : 1 All sharp maybe a sprinkle of cement mixed thoroughly like a screed mix they will not move bud, just work to lines, be good to see.
Great advice! I live in Denmark and am planning laying my own patio with 900x290x30mm slabs. I have be told not to lay sandstone in a mortar base due to frost heave, but instead use a sharp sand base . I have a 150mm MOT Type 1 base what do you think? We often get winters with frost to -6 to -12C Great channel and thanks for the great advice! :)
thank you and very insightful though I didn't fully understand your point laying with "cross joints and all 4 corners...". can you also recommend a contrasting picture frame perhaps a darker charcoal grey please?
So I just buy a bottle if SBR, tip it into a bucket and paint it on the back of the slab (neat) and then put that on my mortar mix of 5:1 building sand and cement? Will this give guaranteed adhesion?
In a previous video you said you also add SBR into the EasyPrime mix when using sandstone but I wondered what SBR you use and to what ratio as there aren’t any instructions for adding to an existing product like EasyPrime. Thanks.
@@GreentopLandscapes Thanks for responding. So is that to say that you don’t use SBR alongside the EasyPrime as it doesn’t need it? I assume then there is some form of SBR/water proofer in the EasyPrime. Thanks again for you help!
great vids mate,quick question about the slurry you use how long does it stay usable if i mix a bag as im doing the job by myself i have to knock up the muck as well as prime the slabs and then lay them and if i was to use sbr do i mix it with cement powder and if so whats the best ratio,btw its indian sandstone slabs that im using.Thanks for any advise
Hi Johnny, I've just bought some sawn 6 sided raj green locally. It has got quite a few little chips on the edges, just wondered if this in normal with sawn? Its the first time I've bought it, the suppliers said its normal to chips. To be honest they stand out like a sore thumb because the stone is cut so square and flat. Has the product your showing in this video got chipped edges? Thanks, Joe.
Hi Joe, thanks for your feedback mate, I personally don't think they should have chips the idea of sawn Honed stone is so it has that sleek contemporary neat edge, have you laid them mate? Thos I have used many time and generally they are good. send me a picture mate let me see.
@@GreentopLandscapes we ended up taking them back and going with the tumbled raj green instead. My client wasn't happy to settle for chiped edges as the main reason for choosing sawn was for that sharp neat finish. Shame really, because they really liked the stone but couldn't justify the extra money for a damaged product. Thanks
Mate, this information is a bit late for me. Thought I would be clever and not use any slurry...5 months later and my slabs are now loose. Thanks for posting.
I have a 30 year solid concrete slab onto which I want to lay a sandstone patio. The slab is absolutely rock solid and in really good condition. Can I lay my mortar bed straight onto it, or do you think I should treat it first with anything?
Hi Jonny just a quick one.. first time I’ve layed Indian stone. There’s a few manholes do I boarder them with the smaller flags to the lids or lay up to them. N leave ya 10ml joint
Greentop Landscapes & Design sorry mate. There’s a few manhole lids in the area I’m laying. Just wondered if I do a boarder round them similar to if it was block paving or just cut straight up to them
hello govenor,, ive laid 900x600 kandala grey slabs but the mixed colours are too bunched up,, i want to lift a few and relay,, whats the best way to stick em down again ? thanx
@@GreentopLandscapes I`ve been back to jobs after 4-5 years to carry out further work and the slabs are absolutely fine. Wetting the back just stops the slab from soaking up all the moisture from the motor mix. We all have our ways. lovely work sir
I sealed my honed Indian stone flags with a colour enhancing seal and most of them turned orange. It looks like rust but won’t come off can anybody help ?
When we see Cross joints in slab work we can tell it wasn’t done by a professional It amazes me on some high end jobs this occurs My guys and I always say it’s not proper stonework
Gavin mate, its not a British Standard, but there is an hate of this practice and some of the landscaping community will pick you up on it, the worlds number one Landscaper mark Gregory once said what all the fuss about, i think its just best to leave them out and to be honest I don't like them now I think lol. But ever never is a good reason to publicly shame anyone, stay safe mate
Thanks for this! You should look into becoming an affiliate for Aspects, and get a link on here for everyone who clicks on and orders with them? may prove beneficial for you :)
Load off bollox just more cost lay them as normal like any slab if any come back rockers etc just lift slab and use gripfill then repoint never move again job done
A few of my large sandstone slabs have delaminated unfortunately. They were laid on a full bed of mortar, to re lay then is it best to break the bed out and re do or is there a different solution? Thanks
I just came across your channel as I am thinking about laying my patio this year. Just wanted to say thanks for all your advice and encouragement. A great channel. 👍
Thanks Brian, so kind of you, be safe
Great Video, answers many of my questions,
I followed your steps on previous video (point with wet mix and cleaning off with bucket and sponge), came up great 👍
Great to hear!
Could have done with this video 4 weeks ago as wasn't completely sure and the manufacturer of the slabs said they didn't need priming. I found out the hard way and had to start using this type of slurry which makes a HUGE difference!!! Thanks again
Glad I could help, thank you for watching my friend, I just try to share what I have learnt and I still am, stay safe
Thanks Johnny a nice little insight. You are looking nice and relaxed in these difficult times stay safe.
Thanks James.. nice words..be safe mate.
Your channel is a must watch, very informative
Glad you think so!
This bloke's good. In fact this bloke sounds amazing!
I wish I was but thank you
Great advice, didn't know about priming slurry. Putting my own patio down and will certainly invest in the product 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Your vids r tip top buddy. Helped me out loads as I’m trying to set up on my own. Stay safe mate. Keep up the good hustle
happy to talk
Really enjoyed watching your straight forward videos. Some great advice there.
Thanks Peter that means alot mate thank you, be safe
Hi John, I'm on second lot of Landscaper, I'm having such a bad time , I have been scammed b4 these and I had paid up front, but these have not been paid it really is a nightmare. Thank you for your advice. I think I will also call the stone merchant about some of the deep ridges I have in mine, I wish you were local to I would get you to do it. I may send pictures to your email. They are supposed to be coming back today to lift the one slab !!
Hi Marie, just seen your message. Why dont you give me a call?
@@GreentopLandscapes Hi John, I really couldn't make this stuff up, 2 of the paving slabs are too high and two one of them damaged chipping away at it with a metal crowbar !! I couldn't open my patio doors properly, anyway he came back last Tues unannounced and looked at then said he would lift and replace the lot , I said really ? So hey ho took the paving stone and ran not heard since, thank god I had not paid him for crap work. But this team of cowboys are on the Trading Standards Buy with Confidence site !!!! So what hope do we have ?? Fed up with the lot of it. I'm just praying that someone genuine will help me sort it out perhaps b4 next Christmas, but I cant tell you just how gutted i am.
Great video I had the honed fitted two years ago and everything is fine. I wanted to mention the sealing I've not done so but what are the advantages and disadvantages? Thanks Ben.
Great news the sealing just stops the sandstone pulling the dirt down and protects
@@GreentopLandscapes Thanks but is this something you have to do every other year? also does it flake off and look a mess? I like the honed smooth feel its great I don't want to spoil it.
They are impregnating sealers
Alright Johnny boy , great video again I think I am going to take the plunge in using slurry on sandstone I guess it’s time to adapt with the times although like I said I before never had an issue but love to learn , also would like to show you at some point a meandering water feature I made for a client last summer . All the best
Hi Ben mate, you and me to brother, its never late to learn, I would love to see that meandering water feature. are you on our landscaping group on Facebook Mate?
Hi there. Superb advice here that no-one told us when we've been getting quotes for a patio we want with porcelain. But I love the stone you've used in this. Can you tell me what one it was? We want a non riven stone so not the Kandla or similar and thought it was only the porcelain that would fit the 'smooth' brief. We just don't want any waterlogging like we have with another patio we have within the undulations of the surface. Jetwashing is a long job and we don't always have time so this stone looks great. Many thanks.
Hi Ann wy dont you book a call so I can take you through this Process as its just to long to type?
@@GreentopLandscapes I'll do that this morning. Thanks JohnnyBoy
Great tip and helpful
Thanks JB 👍✌🏻😷
No problem 👍
Hi, Thanks for video. May I ask you I have prepared my base with road base and compacted it well. Does it have to be 100 % level. It has few high and low spots at few places that I am not able to rectify to 100 %. Would adding pavers sand on next step not fix these few spots. As I am doing pavers 60 cm x60 cm x 2cm(thick) sandstone pavers installation how much would you recommend that pavers sand should be poured in. I was thinking 2-3 cm. Please share. Thank You !
Surinder it would bee better to explain on the Phone
I had some paving done and they forgot to use slurry, and a few have become loose. If I lift the slab and apply slurry, will that restick it down?
Hi John, I have a rectangle pond finished in concrete block, I am about to cement the coping stones tomorrow which are 1200x330x20mm porcelain . My question is....... I dont think i can use any additives to a slurry mix just in case anything leaches back into the pond over time... I have never used a slurry before... Can i just make a sharp sand and cement slurry without any additives ? if so what mix would you advise please mate. and also do i apply the slurry to the blockwork 1st. then put my bed of muck, then slurry the back of the tile also ? Thanks
Hi Bud, try and use an adhesive from a tube for coping stones for this sort of job as it will not leach into the pond, its the water based additives that break down as the solvent based ones that have the fixers in them that don't break down like the water based ones if that makes sense.
Hi, I've just fitted mint honed sandstone for a customer and they have complained that there are some stains. I've gone to take a look and they've left some wood on the sandstone before I have sealed. what's the best way to get the stain out, its a brownish colour.
Brown indicates its a Iron deposit, Azpects got a product or you can use that stuff called the Pink stuff try that
Your videos have given me the confidence to do my own patio in a couple of weeks, it's going to be sandstone slabs boarded all the way around by oak sleepers. Can you tell me what I should fill the gap around the edge of the patio between slabs and sleepers with, is it ok to use jointing compound? I'm just concerned with any possible movement from the sleepers and it cracking the compound.
Maybe some Pebbles?
Hi Johnny I’m going to be laying some very old sandstone flags that were lifted out of a farm byre a few years ago tha farmer has agreed to give me them fairly cheap and there must be around 10 tons of them however they range from 2” to 4” would you use a priming slurry on them or just a very deep mortar bed at around 6:1 mix ? Danny
Hi Danny mate hope your well, these are real flag stone just 6 : 1 All sharp maybe a sprinkle of cement mixed thoroughly like a screed mix they will not move bud, just work to lines, be good to see.
Great advice! I live in Denmark and am planning laying my own patio with 900x290x30mm slabs. I have be told not to lay sandstone in a mortar base due to frost heave, but instead use a sharp sand base . I have a 150mm MOT Type 1 base what do you think? We often get winters with frost to -6 to -12C Great channel and thanks for the great advice! :)
Gosharp but and with 30mm they will be god thanks for tuning in
thank you and very insightful though I didn't fully understand your point laying with "cross joints and all 4 corners...". can you also recommend a contrasting picture frame perhaps a darker charcoal grey please?
Yes you can!
So I just buy a bottle if SBR, tip it into a bucket and paint it on the back of the slab (neat) and then put that on my mortar mix of 5:1 building sand and cement? Will this give guaranteed adhesion?
Hibud, thanks for watching the concrete is good but you can not use the easy joint with this as it needs a porous base,
In a previous video you said you also add SBR into the EasyPrime mix when using sandstone but I wondered what SBR you use and to what ratio as there aren’t any instructions for adding to an existing product like EasyPrime. Thanks.
Hi Jamie the SBR is to make your own slurry not into the Easyprime as it won’t need it
@@GreentopLandscapes Thanks for responding. So is that to say that you don’t use SBR alongside the EasyPrime as it doesn’t need it? I assume then there is some form of SBR/water proofer in the EasyPrime. Thanks again for you help!
I put some in my mix Jamie mate
great vids mate,quick question about the slurry you use how long does it stay usable if i mix a bag as im doing the job by myself i have to knock up the muck as well as prime the slabs and then lay them and if i was to use sbr do i mix it with cement powder and if so whats the best ratio,btw its indian sandstone slabs that im using.Thanks for any advise
Depends, just make sure you clean the back of the slab first and have you slurry creamy so it sticks
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks mate
Hi Johnny, I've just bought some sawn 6 sided raj green locally. It has got quite a few little chips on the edges, just wondered if this in normal with sawn? Its the first time I've bought it, the suppliers said its normal to chips. To be honest they stand out like a sore thumb because the stone is cut so square and flat. Has the product your showing in this video got chipped edges?
Thanks, Joe.
Hi Joe, thanks for your feedback mate, I personally don't think they should have chips the idea of sawn Honed stone is so it has that sleek contemporary neat edge, have you laid them mate? Thos I have used many time and generally they are good. send me a picture mate let me see.
@@GreentopLandscapes we ended up taking them back and going with the tumbled raj green instead. My client wasn't happy to settle for chiped edges as the main reason for choosing sawn was for that sharp neat finish. Shame really, because they really liked the stone but couldn't justify the extra money for a damaged product.
Thanks
Should I seal a black slate patio. If so what product
Yes you can but it is very dense and we have a new sealer out very soon.
Mate, this information is a bit late for me. Thought I would be clever and not use any slurry...5 months later and my slabs are now loose. Thanks for posting.
So sorry to hear that my friend, I hope you get it sorted, stay safe
I have a 30 year solid concrete slab onto which I want to lay a sandstone patio. The slab is absolutely rock solid and in really good condition. Can I lay my mortar bed straight onto it, or do you think I should treat it first with anything?
Yes you can but seal it first so the concrete does not suck all the moisture out of the water
Any tips to remove some priming slurry from the front of the tile
its tough to get off but you could try acidtone if everything else fails but just try small areas first.
What mix do you use for your own primer Jon boy?
Hi James, i only mix my own if I run out as it tends to dry to quick.
Hi Jonny just a quick one.. first time I’ve layed Indian stone. There’s a few manholes do I boarder them with the smaller flags to the lids or lay up to them. N leave ya 10ml joint
Sorry Deano I dont understand mate
Greentop Landscapes & Design sorry mate. There’s a few manhole lids in the area I’m laying. Just wondered if I do a boarder round them similar to if it was block paving or just cut straight up to them
I see a lot of the guys putting the slurry on just before laying when wet. Is it best to leave to dry and then lay
I always lay it immediately after applying the slurry and never had any issues
I agree with Joe make it and use it as you go thats the best way, thanks guys. Stay safe
Awesome video thank you for the information.
Glad it was helpful! Very kind of you stay safe my friend
hello govenor,, ive laid 900x600 kandala grey slabs but the mixed colours are too bunched up,, i want to lift a few and relay,, whats the best way to stick em down again ? thanx
Well in theory You should break out and Relay, but if you are not compromising the levels, try Mapei exterior adhesive.
@@GreentopLandscapes oh ok thanks.. i was told i could just throw some cement dust down. Wet it and it will stick.. didnt know how true that was ?
Question folks... can you lay sandstone in winter? What’s best practise if we do so?! Thnx
Yes we can, just don't put to much water in the mix and not below Freezing and dont lay to late in the day, You could even use som rapid hardener
You can just wet the back of the slab with water and a brush before laying...and keep your mix wet, but not to wet, just wet!
Well mate it will just dry out and thats when it delaminates , but I welcome your input.
@@GreentopLandscapes I`ve been back to jobs after 4-5 years to carry out further work and the slabs are absolutely fine. Wetting the back just stops the slab from soaking up all the moisture from the motor mix. We all have our ways. lovely work sir
Will i also need to slurry the back of my limestone paving prior to laying?
Hi there, My opinion is that all paing should be bridge bonded, its just belts and braces. thanks for watching and stay safe
Greentop Landscapes & Design I’ll be sure to do so then. Learned alot from your videos. Diolch am yr ateb 👍🏼
I sealed my honed Indian stone flags with a colour enhancing seal and most of them turned orange. It looks like rust but won’t come off can anybody help ?
Its Iron deposit try Azpects Rust remover
When we see Cross joints in slab work we can tell it wasn’t done by a professional It amazes me on some high end jobs this occurs My guys and I always say it’s not proper stonework
Kevin Shea why so obsessed with cross joints I’m a pro paver and put them in now and again ?
Gavin mate, its not a British Standard, but there is an hate of this practice and some of the landscaping community will pick you up on it, the worlds number one Landscaper mark Gregory once said what all the fuss about, i think its just best to leave them out and to be honest I don't like them now I think lol. But ever never is a good reason to publicly shame anyone, stay safe mate
Thanks for this! You should look into becoming an affiliate for Aspects, and get a link on here for everyone who clicks on and orders with them? may prove beneficial for you :)
Not now Dan I’m looking at other products now
Silver birch Jonny
Superb info thanks
Thank You Jonathan, stay safe
Load off bollox just more cost lay them as normal like any slab if any come back rockers etc just lift slab and use gripfill then repoint never move again job done
Gripfill?
@@GreentopLandscapes I think he's a Gripfill rep or maybe has to use a hell of a lot of it fixing up jobs he has done previously
Gripfill really?
Hyy i am production of sandstone
From Indian
Do you want bast sant stone
no thanks
Hi can you not just PVA them
Pva will break down My friend
I think its crap another money maker.
Do you really think so Andy mate? I honestly value you everyones opinion mate love to talk to you some time, stay safe brother
A few of my large sandstone slabs have delaminated unfortunately. They were laid on a full bed of mortar, to re lay then is it best to break the bed out and re do or is there a different solution? Thanks
Hi Ryan mate, it just depends what the bed is like mate, send me a picture of it and how many m2?