Grant Morrison's NAMELESS from Image Comics
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2015
- Tiffany delves into horror this week with Grant Morrison and Chris Burnham's Nameless from Image Comics on Hack and Splash Page!
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Hi! I am from the future. I loved this book. I study occult stuff and was getting some references and ALMOST got what Grant Morrison wanted. He is insane! Pure geniously insane.
This book really interests me thank you for talking about it and making me aware of it love you guys TV little house is just amazing
That is awesome! And thank you for checking out TV Little House!
😂 Tiffany - 9 years: "I'm not very familiar with the Hellblazer books."
Tiffany - Now: "You better bring back my Hellblazer book. I'm from Jersey. I'll break your thumbs. Get 'em, Si."
There are a lot of influences that Morrison used and most of what I got was from his own descriptions of the symbols and references that was included in the trade which was a godsend. I knew about Xibalba and the Mayan epic Popul Vuh and his themes of anti-natalism, nihilism and cosmic pessimism were inspired by the works and philosophies of Ray Brassier, Thomas Ligotti and Peter Wessel Zappfe. It seems his portrayal of God was also a direct reaction to Christopher Hitchen's " The Portable Atheist" in which he believes all gods are real, representing powerful elements of the human psyche and the eternal that exist beyond human comprehension. Its also good to know that the asteroid itself represents the six houses of torment of the Mayan underworld. Great read though it's definitely shelf worthy just for its rereading alone and analysis.
I really enjoyed the book. I like having to think about it and kinda piece a puzzle together. GM is a great writer. This deals like it is going to be horror/sci-fi. The dream world aspect makes this interesting. I'm curious to see how this skill will translate to stopping an asteroid. Great video btw, keep up the great work.
Yeah, I know that Image and Morrison were talking a lot about it being horror book and that he hadn't really worked on horror before. I'm also looking forward to seeing how all of these plot threads end up being woven together!
Going from the geometric designs on the characters I'd say they're relying on Aztec myth for a good portion of the storyline, also shibalba also shows up in arronofsky's The Fountain which like all his movies is jawsomse. Makes me wonder if the ending is like the myth where the whole thing is a rebirth story and billionaut makes me think of asteroid mining although trillionaut is more aprops there
Wow I haven't thought about The Fountain since I first saw it. Good catch, I definitely did not remember that was mentioned in the film. This really makes the possible plot of this book thicken.
Howard Roark There was a bit of Kabbalah thrown in to this
Just getting into the book now in 2022 - love it so far.
Nameless is amazing piece of writing and visual horror. Read it twice already but ill get back to it later, again. Highly recommend anyone craving good art and story.
I just read Fatale by the same duo. It is confusing, but the art is amazing... Thanks for exposing me to this other book by them.
I haven't had a chance to check out Fatale, but I would like too. Art is a big seller for me, not that story isn't important but it can sometimes be the thing that catches my eye in the first place.
cool show..everyone did great job ...since tiff likes alot of indie books i was wondering if shes had a chance to check out.Low by image comics?and will you guys do a presentation on it??
I recommend watching the show “Happy!” Written by Grant Morrison
hey this is open to anyone but i was just wondering what ongoing x-men series i should jump into
Tiffany, that is profound. I thought I was the only one who had that dream. The class that I forgot to attend all semester. This is making me like you all the more. I watch your show Comic pop. It's cool.
Great pick as always!
Thank you!
I've just finished the book. I did enjoy it, I did struggle with it at times and got very confused, Although I will need to read it again, Like what you said, Get a better understanding. I did enjoy it, Very trippy story. Daaaaark story. Thanks for your review on this book, Love to see what other think.
"WHAT IS HUMAN!"
Holy crap--I thought I was the only one who had nightmares about missing an entire semester of a class! That's...weirdly comforting to know it's common enough to be considered cliche. (And you're not reading too much into Morrison's story. He'd tell you it's because of the truth shaping inherent to individual perspective, but I'm going to tell you it's because he likes to reference stuff.)
That is a some really good insight on Morrison's writing style and his approach, both what he would say and what your take is on it. I could definitely see either of those being accurate.
TheRealZubes I once heard him say something along the lines of "if it means something to you, then it's real." He was equating the relevance of Batman with that of Jesus, at the time, but I think the basic idea still applies, here.
***** That's awesome. Comparing Batman to Jesus. That's out there in the best of ways.
Great as always
Thank you so much! :-D
These guys knocked out batman inc.
although burnham's art reminds me a lot of frank quietly' style. Which I adore to begin with.
This was a solid buy, and a solid review.
Yeah, they both draw kind of grimy, seedy-looking characters. Not entirely wholesome, right?
great video!
Welcome to the future Tiff 😋
Thanks...glad to be here!
Greatest writer of all time
Hellooo nurseee.
I love Sal for Back Issues, I love Tiffany because she covers comics I'm currently reading or might actually be interested in reading. The only thing I wish Sal would spend more time covering as old Claremont X men comics that are GOOD!
I cannot fucking wait until you cover Black Monday Murders. With each issue I get a little scared it's not going to be very good, and with each new issue I'm blown away.
"She"-Balba was right...I pronounce it that way, too.
I liked the book ... but was pretty confused ... and now Im even more confused watching this ... Ill need to read it again haha
Haha, I have no doubt that Morrison has left room for interpretation so my version of is influenced by how I filled in the blanks. Thank you for checking out the video!
You read a Grant Morrison book and were confused? Huh, imagine that. :P
Really enjoyed your breakdown and thoughts on this book, sadly, I just didn't enjoy the book itself. Like Batman Inc, I just can't get into the artist's style (not to say it's bad, it's just not for me) and Morrison has always been hit or miss.
Another great episode. :]
Well thank you very much! Also, thank you for saying you're not a fan of the book. I really think it's important when it comes to any type of art (fine art, music, comics, video games, etc.) to be able to say that you don't like something. Seriously, if we all liked the same things there would be no reason for creators to dig into their imaginations and show us new things. In the end, no matter how we feel about it we will take something away from it.
It also makes me think
The dream part of the story seems to be ripped strait out of a French indie book called Dreamland
I had to look Dreamland up. Even though I had a hard time finding images of the pages from the book the images I did see were really neat looking. Thank you for sharing this!
Id love the cosmic horror of Nameless. Its like walking through a fucked up fun house. Although i can’t understand the narrative, it was still fun to read.
Love the Black Mesa Head Crabs shirt.
Thank you so much! :-D
geez Tiffany is so beautiful
Isn’t it just cosmic horror? Like Lovecraft..
Xibalba is correct. You said it correctly. Xibalba comes from Aztec or Mayan. The origin escapes me.
Morrison is a bit out there and his style isn't for everyone. Sometimes he can get all over the place with his style.
I can totally see that, however I do like that no matter that his writing sparks conversation. I still want to check out the next issue, maybe do a follow up video about it, thank you for watching!
I pick this book because i don't have to have all the background you need to understand Grant Morrison. When i read Joe the barbarian, it was a great book, so i hope this one also is a great book. I know, you always have to read the story several times and get the Wikipedia to catch all the references Morrison uses. Great video and see what comes in the following issues.
Thank you for watching! I am both excited and hesitant to pick it #2!
soo are you going to talk about intersect at some point....I think it needs to be talked about.
I read _Nameless_ in full this December and thought it was the best comic I read in 2016 (if I had read it a couple weeks later, I easily would have given it to _Monstress_). That being said, I can easily understand how 99% of the population could completely hate it. Any thoughts now that the series has been completed?
Archi Teuthis I'm late here, but i just finished reading this like five minutes ago, and I'm like WTF did i just read? It's not like I hate Nameless, it was very intriguing, but it was even more confusing for me than Lovecraft's stories, and that's saying something.
Aaaaaattractiv-ah
Grant morrison aka confusing
It's amazing he can be pretty straight forward sometimes and lead you through a maze others.
Engaging video, thanks for repping indie comics!
I appreciate that, and I'm glad to do it. I know there is a lot of love out there for indie books; I'm just glad to be involved!
Ugh
Hm. If Sal wanted someone with a pretty face to pimp out his shirts, why didn't he get Ethan to do it :P JK Anyway, aside from the random falling from extreme heights dream, never really the other normal nightmares.
I got this book because the weird fish people got my attention, and it did not disappoint. Kind of digging it so far, but yeah, it did seem more like a prelude than a first issue. How about a review of Bodies?
A comic book reviewer who isn't familiar with Morrison's impact on comics -- not a good sign, especially when reviewing a Morrison comic...
But I think you have potential, just need to take some time to get familiar with the giants of the industry. Keep it up.
Hey, thank you for checking out the video. I like to be honest about my knowledge of an artist or writer, instead of just pretending to be an expert on them. While I have read All-Star Superman and a little of Joe the Barbarian I don't feel that it's enough to say that I am familiar with him. However that doesn't mean that I'm not aware of his influence and importance in the comic industry.
TheRealZubes Joe the Barbarian is great dude. I love how it was kind of a subversion of that "it was all a dream/day dream/fever dream/coma/hallucination." Cliche that the internet conspiracy theorists love to apply to everything. Even though it played it perfectly straight. Anyways. Good job and junk. Screw that pretentious jerk. You're doing great. Everyone at little house is doing great. Peace.
KWHere2 Dude, I didn't want to be mean to the reviewer, but felt she might want to hear some 'constructive' criticism. I think I could have worded it better, though TheRealZubes's reply tells me she got the point of my remark. From my experience, there are a certain handful of names in the industry that have helped define the modern CB medium. It's hard to enter into a dialogue on the subject without reference to their works. So reading these classics would open her up to a much wider audience who might otherwise dismiss her, as I almost did. Which would be a shame, imo.
Logan Bond Well your wording did come off as a little pretentious in my eyes. I can respect that you admit that, and the fact that you can admit that shows that I jumped to conclusions about your supposed pretentiousness. Your constructive criticism just frankly didn't sound very constructive to me and I guess my defensive fanboy kicked in. I guess I'm really just saying you might have jumped to conclusions as well. I mean she clearly says she knows of Grant Morrison. She says she knows about his contributions. She doesn't have to be a fan. Especially with Morrison. He's a polarizing writer.
I skipped this one because Grant Morrison doesn't interest me at all. I've never read one of his books but everyone I know, people that love him, are always saying how they have to read his books multiple times in order to understand what the books about. I don't wanna have to do that. I don't know, I guess I just think comics should be fun and it shouldn't be work to read a comic. If that makes any sense.
But as always I loved your review of this book. You are super awesome. Keep it up. :)
Thank you so much! I can totally understand that, based on what I know and have heard about Morrison it seems like his books can feel like doing a puzzle in Myst. You're never really certain that you're doing it right.
I guess that's super duper
Some of Morrison ' s books are like that, but most you can read and enjoy first time through. I would say to fully appreciate all of the goodies, and beautiful ideas morrison writes, you should read more than once. If you want what I consider to be the greatest comic of all time, i would read All Star Superman. It's not nearly as meta as Morrison is known to get, but is the most beautiful, heartfelt, and altruistic story I've ever read. It also features amazing artwork. Please give him a chance. Morrison really is worth checking out.
6 years later but I think there's a difference between comics and graphic novels. Comics are things like Calvin and hobbies, or more mindless marvel series. Graphic novels usually have a message, politically, religiously, or philosophically motivated, i.e. Watchmen, or this.
I hated this comic. It was so confusing and just didn't really seem to make any sense. I feel like if you liked the movie Inception you might like this comic but for me this comic has just horrible.
I completely understand, Morrison's works are not for everyone and there's nothing wrong with it not being something you liked!
Takes a lot of study in mythology to get it. In this case study in the occult, some Satanism, and Jewish mythology
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cool show..everyone did great job ...since tiff likes alot of indie books i was wondering if shes had a chance to check out.Low by image comics?and will you guys do a presentation on it??
cool show..everyone did great job ...since tiff likes alot of indie books i was wondering if shes had a chance to check out.Low by image comics?and will you guys do a presentation on it??