Use the plastic containers with some type of cap and put desiccant packets in there with them. Most of us have thrown out hundreds of these packets in our lifetime. They come in half or more of the packages we get from the UPS truck and you can buy them online for cheap. Just change out the desiccant packs every 6 months to a year.
Great video. I wonder if the main factor of rod deterioration is oxygen or moisture or the combination of the two. If the former, it would be easy to deal with, just spray a bit of robbing alcohol and ignite it after closing the lid of a sealed container.
@@erisi6204 Store low hydrogen rods in a rod oven, or at the very least in an airtight container with dessicant inside. All other rods should be stored in a dry place, preferably with low humidity. Storing them in a sealed container is best.
I would go to the plumbing aisle at a big box store and buy pvc glue, 3" pvc, an endcap, and a threaded cleanout port LONG before I would ever break out a vacuum sealer. If for some reason I needed to hermetically seal a container of welding electrodes, I would use mylar bags and nitrogen purge before sealing. A standard vacuum sealer device won't properly seal mylar, but your wife's flat iron(ask her) will.
@@everlastgenerator This is epic....electrode storage containers were recommended in the video. Easy enough to make them from plumbing parts if none can be found locally. Now you're saying they're bad? Ok, sure. Also, cellulose flux rods like 6010 or 6011 need some moisture to run properly. I ran a 6010 this morning that was actually sweating out moisture as I was welding. Oddest thing I've seen laying beads thus far. Most people in the preparedness community know that mylar is by far superior to plastic such as is used by the foodsaver type devices. Nitrogen purging prior to sealing, along with adding a dessicant would remove any oxygen and moisture. As for the supposed vacuum sealing of electrodes by the factories, yeah, no. The 5 or 10 pound containers that the average guy buys are not sealed in any way. Certain electrode brands offer hermetically sealed ten pound cans, but the average guy isn't who buys those, and they certainly aren't available at the big box stores. The Lincoln electrodes in the video were in cardboard boxes with a thin, and often punctured, plastic wrapper. They might as well be in just the cardboard boxes. Excellent vacuum seal there. 98% of the "low hydrogen" electrodes used by Jim Bob home project welder have been absorbing moisture since they left the factory in unsealed containers. I have(north Texas for reference) locally two welding supply houses. Both are from different national chains. Neither one stocks ANY electrodes in hermetically sealed containers unless you buy 50 pound cans or specialty electrodes. I cannot walk into either one tomorrow and buy a properly sealed container of "low hydrogen" electrodes that is less than 50 pounds. Would you like to again tell me, who has been in two dedicated welding supply stores and four other stores with welding supplies in the last week about this vacuum sealed electrode claim? Even just perusing the electrode manufacturers websites yields enough information to disprove that claim for the majority of home shop welders.
Use the plastic containers with some type of cap and put desiccant packets in there with them. Most of us have thrown out hundreds of these packets in our lifetime. They come in half or more of the packages we get from the UPS truck and you can buy them online for cheap. Just change out the desiccant packs every 6 months to a year.
you can add a desicant pack to that and absorbe moisture also
Great video. I wonder if the main factor of rod deterioration is oxygen or moisture or the combination of the two. If the former, it would be easy to deal with, just spray a bit of robbing alcohol and ignite it after closing the lid of a sealed container.
I learned something new. Thank you.
They should sell rods ready-sealed individually side by side in a roll. Just pop them out as required.
Remember The Slap Films that’s a great idea!
Fantastic video. Great tips.
I want to ask you about hot welding rod returned . should rebaking or no
Great tips, I'm just getting started in welding, would these tips still apply or have things changed, been updated, etc?
What are you specifically asking about?
@@zombieresponder IIRC the storage of MMA electrodes.
@@erisi6204 Store low hydrogen rods in a rod oven, or at the very least in an airtight container with dessicant inside. All other rods should be stored in a dry place, preferably with low humidity. Storing them in a sealed container is best.
I would go to the plumbing aisle at a big box store and buy pvc glue, 3" pvc, an endcap, and a threaded cleanout port LONG before I would ever break out a vacuum sealer. If for some reason I needed to hermetically seal a container of welding electrodes, I would use mylar bags and nitrogen purge before sealing. A standard vacuum sealer device won't properly seal mylar, but your wife's flat iron(ask her) will.
Rods like this are vacuum sealed at the factory. Putting them in a tube only caps moisture in. Remiving air also removes moisture potential.
@@everlastgenerator This is epic....electrode storage containers were recommended in the video. Easy enough to make them from plumbing parts if none can be found locally. Now you're saying they're bad? Ok, sure. Also, cellulose flux rods like 6010 or 6011 need some moisture to run properly. I ran a 6010 this morning that was actually sweating out moisture as I was welding. Oddest thing I've seen laying beads thus far.
Most people in the preparedness community know that mylar is by far superior to plastic such as is used by the foodsaver type devices. Nitrogen purging prior to sealing, along with adding a dessicant would remove any oxygen and moisture.
As for the supposed vacuum sealing of electrodes by the factories, yeah, no. The 5 or 10 pound containers that the average guy buys are not sealed in any way. Certain electrode brands offer hermetically sealed ten pound cans, but the average guy isn't who buys those, and they certainly aren't available at the big box stores. The Lincoln electrodes in the video were in cardboard boxes with a thin, and often punctured, plastic wrapper. They might as well be in just the cardboard boxes. Excellent vacuum seal there. 98% of the "low hydrogen" electrodes used by Jim Bob home project welder have been absorbing moisture since they left the factory in unsealed containers.
I have(north Texas for reference) locally two welding supply houses. Both are from different national chains. Neither one stocks ANY electrodes in hermetically sealed containers unless you buy 50 pound cans or specialty electrodes. I cannot walk into either one tomorrow and buy a properly sealed container of "low hydrogen" electrodes that is less than 50 pounds.
Would you like to again tell me, who has been in two dedicated welding supply stores and four other stores with welding supplies in the last week about this vacuum sealed electrode claim? Even just perusing the electrode manufacturers websites yields enough information to disprove that claim for the majority of home shop welders.