Why was the Chinese scientist who co founded JPL abandoned by the US?
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- In Shanghai there is an entire museum containing 70,000 artefacts dedicated to one man, "the people's scientist" Qian Xuesen. Qian is the father of China's missile and space programme. His research helped develop the rockets that fired China's first satellite into space, and missiles that became part of its nuclear arsenal, and he is revered as a national hero.
OK, as for today’s video, we will talk about Qian Xuesen's legendary life. Let’s get started!
America has pride and never will never highlight contributions by the brainy Chinese. Even the Boeing foundation in its early days, there was also a Chinese.
Sad, but true...
So true... I was just watching a YT video on the "Founder of Boeing" a chinese who was the chief scientist of the Boeing company when it first started, but was never publicly acknowledged in United States. What a shame!
@@georgekelmeris9804 ya very very sad, sadder, saddest
@@bluestar2253I totally agree with you, thanks to Mr. Wong Tsu's collaboration towards Boeing during 1916 - 1917, Mr. Tsu was also a humble human... ( R I P. 🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🇨🇳☦️🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸 )
Indeed
Note the similarity between the US' ban on China's participation in the International Space Station project and the deportation of Qian from the US. In both cases, China was the beneficiary.
It must be questioned that why America always complains about Chinese stealing its technologies.
Agreed
It's due to the fact that Chinese are better human beings.
Qian actually wanted to return to China but was prevented. The CIA even discussed his assassination.
He is a liiar!
He helped Chairman Mao's culture revolution which killed millions
Tsien's Alma Mater Caltech is the only institution in the US that honors him still to this day with a permanent exhibt at one of their campuses.
thankyou for that bit of information. m
Tsien was the victim of American racism and escape goat . The ‘50s McCarthyism combined communism and racism creating a potent toxic brew of nationalism, patriotism, and xenophobia. Today, the same toxic potent brew is at work - with two distinctions: non-Chinese have been attacking, robbing, and killing Chinese in the public space ( several Korean, Filipino, and Japanese were also victims due to physical resemblance). For the past decade the US corporate media publish anti China propaganda incessantly, which create a constant threat against the Asian community. Consequently , many Chinese scientists and talented Chinese have already left the USA for the homeland. History is repeating before our very eyes.
Welcome them home. Let U$A drift away.
QIAN XUE TSIEN founded rocketry & cybernetics. NASA has to thank him
He also interviewed Werner Von Braun before he was hired at JPL/NASA
@@etow8034 He WAS interviewed BY Theodore von Kármán, not Werner Von Braun, a Nazi German rocket scientist.
@@tedaspane1493 You misread, Qian interviewed Werner Von Braun another Nazi. Kármán was Qian's professor !
@@marcochella_ Then they should Never Parcipitate in the Olympics
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Why would Theodore Von Karman interview Dr. Qian? They worked together for a few years before the end of WWII. Dr. Qian was a student working for Theodore Von Karman. Right after WWII, Dr. Qian represented the USA to interview Dr. Werner Von Braun of Germany.
Qian Xue Tsien should be recognized as one of the fore father of Rocket Science !!!
True but the Germans were ahead of him.
He is a liiar!
He helped Chairman Mao's culture revolution which killed millions!
Sad but true. The Germans found the alien designs first
@@AY2121-i4y Chiina is Chicken
Today the DF missiles are giving nightmares to the American Military.
Thanks for this wonderful revelation, everyone can see why China is a great country today feared by the United States and its western allies.
Dr. Tsien became national hero and founder of Chinese space program and father of rocket. Chinese have deepest respect towards him. Even in the dark days of cultural revolution, he was spared of any suffering because top leaders prevented anybody from harming him, even some leaders were persecuted themselves. It is one condition for the Chinese to release 8000 US POWs after Korean war. In a sense Chinese leaders exchanged 8000 US prisoners for one man. Mao said he worthed more than that.
Qian a very talented rocket scientist.
Many of the top professors of science, engineering and math at US univs are Chinese
Qian Xue Tsien is the great rocket scientist and the father of China space technology!
He’s actually also the father of American space technology. We would have gotten to the moon a decade earlier if we hadn’t pissed him off to the point that he gladly left the fascist agencies of the US during the red scare.
Space shuttle would’ve been successful if he was involved.
@@sleepvark1
After some facts were found about Dr. Qian, I suspect that the USA would have gotten into space before Sputnik if Dr. Qian continued working for JPL then. But I also believe Dr. Qian had his mind set to go back to China. That happened not solely from the red scare. By the way, there were many other Chinese scientists and engineers did the same thing. Ironically, many of them didn't even survive Mao's cultural revolution.
Absolute respect to Sir Qian Xue Tsien.
He is a liiar!
He helped Chairman Mao's culture revolution which killed millions!
When did he acquired the title “Sir”? Is he in anyway related to Great Britain or Europe.
@@jinWhuang No. He was knighted by people of China the very day he set foot on the mother land.
Actually the title “Father of Chinese Rocket” is much more weight than the British title “Sir”. Sir only means a British high class person. Some rich Hong Kong Chinese people got this title. But it has no meaning in the Chinese.
The video didn’t mention about his hypersonic missile gliding theory can defeat even the most-sophisticated missile defense today. Armed with his study, China has developed 3 types of anti-carrier ballistic missiles that covers a radius between 1k-5k km.
Chinese scientist Jeffrey Chuan Chu made significant contribution to the first computer ENIAC as well. He invented binary logic circuits which is the fundamental concept of the morden information science
Scientist Japan Akira Nakashima
Invented circuit theory switching in the years 1934.
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What a great man, Qian Xue Tsien.
Definitely my hero!
Xuesen
He is a liiar!
He helped Chairman Mao's culture revolution which killed millions
Respect 🫡
Americans didn't get into space - they paid Europeans to get them to space (Hitler's rocket scientists were the core). In contrast the USSR started rocket science program as soon as Lenin took power - as he funded Ciolkovski, they had dozens of experienced rocket scientists by WW2, that's why they were the first to use modern rocket weaponry - the Katyushas.
It's a bit worse than that in truth-lookup operation paperclip. The thing is, it's mentioned so briefly in any history books that most 97% of the American population either don't know or don't care or turn a blind eye.
An ironic aside .....the man who the Americans sent to interrogate and evaluate Werner Von Braun, the Nazi scientist who pioneered the NASA Apollo program was Qian Xue Tsien who was made a colonel in the us army during the war , I read about him when I was young ....
@@therealdeal2163 The American plane pilots were trained by Asen Yordanov (Bulgarian) between the wars. I don't remember correctly, but he was definitely less than 20 years old when he built a plane to participate in WW1. Moreover Bulgaria was the first to use planes in combat - as bombers in the first Balkan war. The treaties after WW1 ruled out the destruction of the Bulgarian air force (which was small to begin with, but the scum in London know no shame), that forced Asen to emigrate to the USA. Then in WW2 USA bombed Bulgaria - and Bulgaria wasn't participating in any battles (as a German ally) till the Red army came and took over, in the end fought with the Germans. Churchill loved the massive bombings here.
Yordanov also played essential role in designing a famous american plane (don't remember the model), also invented the airbag. And he participated in the science crew for the Apolo 11 mission. Basically everything americans have "achieved" lies on the shoulders of immigrants.
Alas, although China was the first to invent the rocket , it didn't manage to participate in early 20th century space technology until recently for historical n political reasons. But, wow, what a comeback !
@@pgtan8819 So true. ..this is one of many Chinese inventions that were copied by the west. Never heard of the Chinese went around complaining the westerners stole and copied their inventions.
Glad he came back to China. Silly U$A loss is China's rightful gain. There is a reason for everything.
Funny how things work out
McCarthyism was a dark period in the United States. A lot of good people from all races and professions were harmed.
Kind of like the US version of the cultural revolution
Unlike the Cultural Revolution where the chief perpetrators were arrested and jailed, McCarthyism is still alive and well in the US.
And now the USA is doing it again ! Americans never learn from history do they ?
unfortunately it looks like it’s coming back now
@@naughtyfrog8257 It is being promoted by propaganda. Enough of that and it become reality.
today it's trump the german like hitler n pompeo peloci the italians like mussolini
I disagree with the statement that it was the stupidest thing the US ever did. There are many stupid things the US has done staarting with the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882.
chinese built american n canadian rails with their lives n ingenuity n both countries exclude them n grind them into dirt - in sanfrancisco if a black african slave walk by chinamenn had to step aside - usa n canada are what it is today because chinese make railroads that make industrial revolution possible that make usa n canada great
US arrogance continue to push it to fo similar things today .
the US didn’t abandon him, they detained him to prevent him going back to China. he was kept under house detention until the chinese government was alerted through covert letters for help, and eventually he was exchanged for a number of US pilots shot down over china (this part I’m not sure, but apparently U2 pilots under the cover of ROCAF shot down)
Were there human right and freedom for him at all???
@@paulchen2224 yes they are stopping him from going back to communist china so he can enjoy his freedom in house detention and FBI surveillance cough cough I mean protection
Shot down in Korean War. U2's were shot down in 1960s and U2 pilots were Taiwan ROCAF trained in US
Qian was traded with seven U.S. pilots who were POW during the Korean War.
A racist country can never change.
Undersecretary of the Navy Dan Kimball would later call Qian’s persecution and expulsion “the stupidest thing this country ever did,” saying the scientist’s value to the American military was “worth five divisions anywhere.”
What he actually said is to let Qian leave was stupid. He meant Qian should be killed or prisoned and not to allow him to serve China.
He wasn’t a white Anglo Saxon american it was the same for those mathematicians women of colour
One of the 2 co-founders (and its pioneer aircraft engineer) of Boeing was also a Chincese
The F14 designer also is
Mr. Qian Xuesen, a great and humble soul, ( R I P 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 )
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Qian Xue Tsien after WW2 , he was sent to Germany to interview Wernher von Braun .
A moment in history when two fathers of Both Chinese and American space Program were together .
В древности 70% всех изобретений вышли из китая , и сейчас Китай лидер по патентам 🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍🇨🇳👍
Qian father of China 🇨🇳 rocket 🚀 improved his motherland. I think 💭 proud to be a Chinese citizen.
Dr. Tsien's older brother was also a very good engineer. Dr Tsien's brother has a son, Roger Y. Tsien, the 2008 winner of the Nobel Prize in Chemistry.
During the 1950s, the Russian space program became the 1st to send a satellite into space. If Dr. Tsien was working for the U.S. space program then, I suspect the U.S. rocket would have first gotten into space instead of the Russian Sputnik.
He is a liiar!
He helped Chairman Mao's culture revolution which killed millions,
In 1945, as an Army colonel with a security clearance, Qian was sent to Germany to investigate laboratories and question German scientists, including Wernher von Braun,[24][25] and "to recruit German scientists for the American missile program"
他的先祖是中国古代皇帝，他的堂兄弟、表兄弟其实有十几个科学家……他们一家不可能为美国人卖命。
He laid the foundation of Chinese hypersonic missile program and near space craft program. till this day the Chinese space agency still following his vision he laid for us back in 1950s
Actually, Dr. Qian's born in a very special family - 吴越钱氏(Qian Liu 852-932AC, the late Tang dynasty), who got the respect from all the emperors in this history(even the regime change)....in the Modern time, there're still a lot of celebrities coming from this family, in the field of modern science, except Qian Xuesen, they had Qian Weichang(Physicist, Mechanician, and Applied Mathematician, student of Dr. Theodore von Kármán), Qian Sanqiang(Nuclear Physicist).
JPL today still has a lot of Chinese scientists and engineers.
Behind each of them there is a double digit IQ FBI agent spying on him. There is no privacy for them
You failed to mention that he was jailed for 15 days before the house arrest.
that's a true story, As a scientist with a noble personality, he was so insulted by the US government in jail. According to his wife's later recollection, Qian suffered a huge mental shock and was completely speechless when he came back home after jail. For thousands of years, true Chinese intellectuals have had a character that one can be killed but not humiliated. This is why Qian must go back to China. I remember he happily met with his friends or former colleagues from US when China-US relationship getting normal but refused to receive an award from US' government in later 1980'
Dr Qian is the Father of America's Air Superiority
Interestingly, the chief engineer of the Minuteman III intercontinental missile, Lin Ye, is also Chinese and a chief scientist at Boeing Aerospace. He was one of a number of students sent by the Chinese government to study in the United States with public money, but he never returned to China.
I wonder what happened to him since he is not even remembered anywhere.
@@Santeh60 HTT will tell u
@@Santeh60 He worked for US . American has tradition put white engineers in front of his hard work.
@Santeh60 the most anti-china Chinese who worked with Pompeio when he was secretary of state, he was also a Chinese gv sent to America study student. Today, he is still offering a lot of China information to us. Even over 40 years, he has not been to China ,yet us still buy his China information. Don't return to China is OK, but survive overseas by smearing your country is completely different level
He was a traitor!
America in the 60’s and 70’s are like, thanks for your help but we’ll give all the credit to the white mens
"Forty years ago a flush toilet in China was a luxury. Today it has its own Space Station. This is a tiny example of China’s capabilities.
It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis.
Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl." - The Daily Express
If you look into the silicon valley almost half of the scientists and engineers working to develop "American" IT industries are of Asian descent.
I remember the Chinese Silk Worm sank the Brit war ship during the Falkland war
Isn't the French Exocet missile the one that sank Sheffield at Falkland !!
@@leoh6596 Seven British warships were sank in the Falklands conflict, HMS Shieffield is only one of them and most mentioned because it was a newer missile frigate.
I am not sure if deporting Qian was the dumbest thing the USA ever did - there's a lot of competition for that honor - but it's certainly right up there. You can get the whole story by reading "Thread Of The Silkworm" by Iris Chang. And be sure to read about Iris Chang's own brilliant but brief and tragic life and death in Wikipedia.
A brilliant bit of literature!
The father of American rocketry and space program. Dr qian xueshen and verner von Braun. Historical fact.
Another Chinese engineer was the “father of Boeing”, very few knew this
Wong Tsu
and he was denied access for the test flight of his design due to national sercurity...american people really have their ways
I remember his quote : Don't come to my class if you're not a genius
Qian's classmate in his elementary school was studied under the same professor of Theodore von Karman in Germany and she was a professor in Tsinghua Universe in Beijing of her whole life.
这是我们中国最伟大的科学家之一。他的逝世我留下了伤心的眼泪。没有他，就没有中国的今天，他的钱学森弹道在今天都是全世界最先进的。致敬伟大的爱国科学家。
In fact, Qian Xuesen was imprisoned on Terminal Island in 1950. There is a prison on this island. If you are not very familiar with Terminal Island, then you might know about this building that was moved to Terminal Island from another island called Alcatraz Island.
Qian is a patriotic Chinese who was a brilliant scientist and engineer. The other hero of China is Cheng Kaijia. We salute both of them and their colleagues.
The sad fact is that Dr Qian was also a patriotic American, a colonel in the US army, until the idiots promulgating the red scare changed his mind.
Not to forget Xia Peisu the computer expert.
as a China-born overseas chinese right now, self-development (thanks to the better conditions in West) and flourish chinese DNA (I own proudly 100% chinese family) is my primarily task in peacetime. In crazy war time, needless to say, everything would be different, Dr. Tsien is good example.
Mr. Qian Xuesen, RIP.
There was another man that could have been just as great, Zhang Shoucheng. He was the Quantum Man of the US and was slated to win the Nobel Prize. He wanted to do what Qian did and return to China but got suicided in 2018.
是被FBI暗杀了
He was being assassinated for sure
CIA killed him
When you are too smart and you are a danger to US interest. You probably will be assassinate.
The answer is very simple racism
Even ordinary Chinese citizen are Excellent in Chemistry.
In the early 1980s when the US and China were stll on friendly terms, Qian was invited to visit the US. The then Chinese party chief Hu came to his office to press him to make the trip, saying let bygones be bygones.....Qian declined him, saying that his deportation was ordered by a US court and he would keep his promise never to set his feet on the soil of the US again.
情感被伤害了😢
A man promise has been kept and his legacy live on. China gave American a diamond but the racist American don't want it because the color is yellow, not white, thus trading it back to China for few hundred US soldiers. One could said, this is one of the biggest deal China won and America lost.
USA humilated Qian, that's why he came back to China.
BTW, USA deprted Qian for US POW in China.
Sure, today all the Chinese should appreciate US McCathyism/Racism to help China to get back their top talents.
BTW, Qian contributed fairly enough for his training in USA.
There are many brilliant Chinese students in the US who want to stay here. Hopefully we can keep them,.
They dont want to stay in your country
Prof. Quis is the leading rocket scientist to the Chinese as well as Andrei Korolev to the Russian.
Qian made me proud of my chinese heritage
Absolutely Fascinating! Thank You For Sharing. TEAM CHINA ALL THE WAY!👍🙏🙂
I remember him.
Only the USA does not remember him 🤣
They hates him very much
No one doubts his talent and capabilities, and this explains the rapid advancement of the Chinese missile program...
LONG LIVE CHINA LONG LIVE PLA...
US needs Chinese scientist.
Que bien que ese científico regresara a su patria e hiciera de ella una potencia mundial
It’s like toilet paper,before you shit it’s the most important after you shit you want to get rid as fast as you can. Mother land is the most important.
Americans love tattoos cats dogs and think the cosine is a street sign.
Boeing's first engineer was a Chinese man.
Does senator Frank Wolf know that a Chinese scientists helped co found the organisation that he prevented from cooperating with his motherland.
America always hired other countries talent, and brand it is theirs talent who did it. Well it is theirs but not from their tallent they just paid for it 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine, Theodore von Karman and the other "Marsian Hungarians" would have returned to Hungary to establish a scientific imperium. Leó Szilárd, Eugene Paul Wigner, Edward Teller, John von Neumann, George Pólya, Dennis Gábor, Paul Erdős, Paul Halmos, John G. Kemeny. Or maybe they would have stayed in Germany, if Hitler hadn't driven them to emmigration...
Wisdom : Nothing better than sticking to your own flock.
Thank you 👍👍👍
His nephew Roger Tsien is 2008 nobel price winner. The whole family is kinda intellectual.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. American has a very best collection of top talented scientists from all over the world. It's just a spilled over effect. Anyone of them can make any fertile country great. It's just impossible for US to use them all. All rich people have plenty. Therefore in their splendor, they wasted a lots of very expensive and exquisite things and top people...
It's not about using them, it's about showing respect and avoid racism.
@@rowo4956 thanks for your thoughts. When you have too many good people, it’s impossible to appreciate them all. Therefore trashing some are just following the rules of excess. When one picked too many big, good diamonds from the deserted island beach, one pick the most attractive color stones and let go of the rest.
Beside, another very important American-Chinese physician Chien-Shiung Wu who help US successfully invented atomic bomb! US need to thanks many of Chinese scientists n physicians that their help and contributed on the invention of rockets and weapons to make US a superpower in the world. However, The United States has never feeling greatful to all these Chinese scientists but to surveillance and soft detention them.
America government did not let him free, but swap 3 air fighters jet pilots which was shot down and captured as prisoners in Korean war with this chinese scientist
US should be a shame of their self.
Chinese Exclusion Act(1882~1942). The effects enduring until now.
Hang on now, all these trash talks about em Chinese steal and copy technology but turn out em Chinese was 1/5 cofounder of NASA?
One of the five founders of JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), he is not the founder of NASA, this laboratory is the birthplace of NASA
致敬....他对中国的贡献不亚于历史上任何一人
The story of Wang Zhu, the first aeronautical engineer at Boeing, was also quite interesting to read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Tsu
deja vu all over again...
It would be an interesting follow up video to look at Qian's transhumanism and any possible affiliation with Jack Parsons.
All the comments highlighting US incompetence aside, we should still acknowledge and respect, first and foremost, the exceptional patriotism of Qian. He was determined to serve his mother nation, communist or otherwise, while leaving all the comfort of the US behind... Of course this applies to all the other highly educated Chinese scientists who decided to go to "red China" during the 50s. They were truly a dedicated, idealistic generation of people.
USA was not that great. Qian went back to China only after lengthy negotiations between China and USA. If my memory served me right, one of the conditions were 15 American war hostages were released.
The US never "abandoned" Mr. Qian.
He was a patriotic Chinese. The US never had a chance of keeping him.
Racism costs. The loss of Qian Xuesen to China, who single handedly built up the Chinese rocket program and instituted the training of many of the Chinese rocket scientists, is a cost that America is still paying now.
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Through the comment section, you can see how greatly Chinese scientists contributed to US technology sector, when China was so weak and only a tiny percentages of Chinese had the privilege to receive modern education. China will be a great power for sure. And their civilization will endure.
The first aero engineer at the OG Boeing was Chinese.
錢學森 is the scientist name.
Tsien, Hsue-shen was the spelling of his Chinese name
He never should have helped America!
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The way you pronounced Qian's name is the funniest I have ever heard.
A documentary about Dr, Qian in Early 90s showed Him went to Germany on behalf of the US government investigating Nazi Rocket program. Could you please post that documentary too?
When I heard Trump and Pompeo talk hawkish about the Chinese, I wonder if all Chinese leave the US, what happen to most of the US projects.
Smart guy…
Contribution is contribution! US did not recognize? I hope it was false. We will let NASA do the honor and recognize scientist Tsien for his work.
It's ranked as No.1 of the most regrettable decision US ever made to deport Qian back to China.
Ungrateful America
Zmost strip move the USA has ever made
When politicians make decisions, this is what happened. Now we see something similar to the innocent Chinese people in America. Hope mistakes approved by history won’t happen