I just want them to keep zombies zombified and not cater to multiplayer players, if you don't like zombies for what it has to offer then you don't like zombies
This is kind of a nothing argument though, if you dont like zombies now then you dontt like zombies, is this statement any less truth than what you said? who determines what is and what isnt zombies? is it treyarch? bc then you would be giving me the point there is it the community? good luck with that man everyone has a different opinion there this is kind of a nothing statement ngl
@dazth3legend670 I do like zombies now though I think it stays true to the core elements of zombies and what we all fell in love with in the first place, the only major thing I don't like about it is the point system and costs for different things but its growing on me i dont like it but i can deal with it, other than that I'm cool with it and love it
When it first released there was an official Activision statement saying it was there most popular and active zombies mode “in recent years” wether it’s true or bs (most likely bs) who knows. Regardless the mode died the moment they didn’t add more Warzone maps or weekly content like multiplayer.
@@davidbeltran8142 i played it for the first time abt 2 weeks ago and it was pretty fun after i completely understood what to do, and then it just got kinda boring after a little bit. if they would add the other dmz maps, maybe verdansk, and some extra bosses (which will probably never happen now) im sure itd be seen in a brighter light
@@anarchy6918 I thought it was alright nothing special or anything but they really showed they did not give a fuck about the zombies community by adding only crumbs of content seasonly and not giving zombie players Fortunes keep and rebirth as maps in MWZ
I wish they would just stop with the half assed zombie attempts in non treyarch games. I would rather wait longer for a zombies mode with more time and effort put into them.
@sirgrizzlypfote6369 that's not completely true I think mw2/3 spec ops was pretty well liked plus mw3 survival was also not half bad. Mw19 spec ops had potential but they really dropoed the ball on that one
@@TheRipKingI know treyarch made the zombies in mw3 and vanguard as well. Doesnt take away that they clearly didnt get the resources to make it a good game mode. I'd rather have another bonus map in bo6 then whatever they tried to do in mw3.
Oen thing you didnt mention was how during the **ZOMBIES** themed season 2, WZ and MP got more zombies content than the actual zombies mode, including new zombie contracts in WZ that MWZ never got as well as turning the fortune's keep WZ map into a zombie-ified map in the keep or whatever it was, with spores to make it look like a infested stronghold. That was when I realized "Oh. We're getting table scraps now after we had one good meal in season 1" and ro realzie that during a "ZOMBIES" themed season...yeah that was harsh.
A big issue this game had was giving us Operation Deadbolt and absolutely nothing else to play… I could forgive the bare bones content we got every season if they gave us something major to offset it. Like if we got Onslaught on the Vortex maps, or some of the Aether rifts turned into their own individual maps with contracts to complete. Maybe even take Purgatory and put it into Zombies instead of getting rid of it completely. Hell, I would take MWZ but on Verdansk or Rebirth Island or whatever other Warzone map. Just SOMETHING else to play besides Operation Deadbolt on Urzikstan
i've played it for the entire year and i still want to take bolt cutters to each of my digits and remove them one by one. as someone who has played zeds since WaW, this is worse than nacht "post life cycle". vanguard at least tried to salvage.
So many people wanted to dislike this from the jump because it wasn't round based. It certainly has flaws however its a good third mode that became stale from lack of support. This was a way better third mode for MW, compared to their attempts at Spec Ops from MW2019 onward. I perfer Round Based however we weren't going to recieve that this year and im sure out of the 3000 devs this didn't actually take to many resources from other Treyarch Zombies projects.
Spec Ops from MW2019 imo was cool because like MW3(OG), they were stories happening during or after the campaign with different characters that offer lore and intense action. What tucked was the fact that they're just mini campaign missions on the Verdansk map instead of having unique levels for the mode and update it with the seasons. Imo, it had potential but it was obviously an afterthought
@@murderous_hotdog no this mode just sucked lol. The story was boring, only having 45 minutes and being forced to quit sucked, the gameplay loop was bring and the mastery camo sucked
>killing the storm caller should add an extra 20-30 minutes. >Should have revamped the menu and stash system, similar to dmz and add an in game stash house like tarkov or from the bo3 campaign >some actual form of 'old school zombies" whether in the form of a new contract or hidden easter that takes you to a new map completely made for zombies and hold out with the option of leaving. >new contracts, horde lord or hive leader (yous can come up with better names) you need to gather a small to medium large group of zombies and bring them to a turned station, turning them into brainrotted zombies, then assault a new stronghold for this contract. >hidden ZOMBIE warlords, not just the copy paste of mimic, manglers, and mega bombs (but again treyarch said there would be no new zombie boss types)
I just wish they would have actually supported it. There's one map. They didn't add any new POIs from Warzone, or new maps, or new enemies or Easter eggs. They added a few side things to the basic ass warzone map but nothing of actual substance. It had potential to be awesome but they just gave up on it instantly for no discernable reason.
I think what’s the saddest thing about this is that they had it right the first time with outbreak. Smaller open zones with challenges strung through out that gets harder and harder each time you move to a new area. It had two Easter eggs and was extremely fun to grind and see how far you can get. This was watered down to get more casual players to hop in. The multiplayer only crowd. Which wasn’t going to play zombies anyway. Now because of it we will never see something like outbreak again most likely which is sad cause outbreak was fucking awesome.
The fact that they had 4 extra maps and they could’ve use those as the seasonal maps is really confusing to me, me and my friend were excited to see fortune’s keep be added to zombies because it just made sense but I guess adding zombies and a filter to the map was way too much work…except it wasn’t because they made purgatory and they changed the look of rebirth island
It’s a love hate for me for sure, it’s fun being able to start a match with pap3 and full perks. But the time limit and slight competitiveness with racing to contracts before someone else grabs it is painful.
Just going to say, I've been playing CoD since the start (yeah I'm old) and I never really got into zombies, I did try it here and there but it was never my thing. But MWZ changed that and I loved this mode, at least the potential it had, they basically abandoned it and looks like its not coming back...
The part where you said something about the bunkers not being opened up in MWZ is my most high point question. The question being “When are the bunkers going to be opened”? Now I have my answer.
Something declining means that its base had potential... What potential has a gamemode with a copy pasted map that just got zombies and perks added to it?
The marketing for this mode feels borderline illegal and it was essentially a rug pull with the “content updates”, very disrespectful But you made a good video documenting it, so thank you
I picked up mw3 last week when it finally went on sale for 50% off during its last season. I considered this title to be an expansion pack to mw2 and i wasnt willing to pay anything more than half, out of principle, so i feel like i got my moneys worth considering all the updates to multiplayer which is why i bought it, but man seeing how little was added to the zombie mode each season i can understand why players felt shafted in that department, even more so when all of the elements are already there in-game, just not implemented; the horror-themed mp variant maps, the fact that each mp map can work with zombies via hordepoint, missed dmz missions and updates to warzone. Even last years haunting update felt waaay more polished with the five or so different bosses and areas you could visit and fight instead of a barebones, albeit, cool looking variant of rebirth island with what, a floating shipment and a spooky ball you can kick at people? They really need to stop doing yearly releases and let the developers actually see a vision through rather than drop the support half way in favor of getting the next game in a playable state for next year.
I really enjoyed this zombies. The only things I hated are; I can’t change my operator without losing progress, can’t play locally or solo, and the disconnect along with server issues. I unlocked every schematic as well
They were gonna add new contracts to the game. A variant of Cargo escort but you use a boat, and a Hostage Rescue contract where you save scientists from Terminus mercs where they'll kill the hostages the longer you took. But they all got scrapped early.
@@CatCrossed That’s definitely weird that they scrapped those contracts, especially because they already existed in DMZ. Then again, there’s a lot of nicer DMZ things that didn’t get added like the Barter system or Attachment Workbench, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
@@Truth.Alphaz same. i play zombies since cod5 and this mode was boring very quickly. the most insulting part is the mode being completely abandoned with 0 content updates. i hate the fact they reused the map.
I know it's cliche, but I'm genuinely surprised you don't have more subs. You put out some of the best zombies content in a time where the community feels almost dead. I hope your channel takes off soon bro, good stuff
No zombies can be worse than Vanguard. Trash from day one then they add in a remastered map and flop it as well. They put zones instead of rounds and Infinity Ward decided to say "Hey, let's do that but without doors to different areas let's create 3 different areas that has harder zombies as you get to the center but let's use the old DMZ formula." Infinity Ward died in 2019, Sledgehammer died in 2017. Their last good games of each year. MWZ was so laggy that you barely played for 10 minutes without crashing and losing your loadout. The last good open world zombies was outbreak in Cold War. At least it had sort of an identity and was fun.
I actually really really really liked it, i just wish there was more content for it. Story wise it sucked, but i had just pure stupid fun on it especially with friends.
Whats so odd is that with MWZ I would play like 10 mins and get super bored with leveling up the guns...doing boring contracts over and over again, just so I can have 10 real mins at the end of the mission to do what I came into to do. Rinse repeat. Now in BO6 zombies. I can play solo on either map and just chill for hours having a fun time by myself. Same cycle of leveling weapons and getting perks. But I feel all the wasted filler of it being on a huge map and boring contracts makes it much better. That or I am just a zombies purist. Although onslaught was good.
They could have also turn some of the vortex maps into round base maps, yeah I know this comment might sound dumb but it would have keep the round base players happy so that way they can play it while waiting for new original maps for bo6
I feel like MWZ would’ve preformed much better if it leaned into its DMZ aspect, as honestly, theres no other reason to have DMZ features like stashes only for it to be an arbitrary hinderance Add in a PVP mode, add in daily missions & dead drops, add in more contracts, add in a hardcore mode where you start alone & with a pistol & you must find more teammates for better survivability, hell reuse some of the bigger vortex map varients for a round based mode, all you gotta do is put in barriers, doors, perks & the pap
Would’ve loved to see some more wonder weapons added especially since this was a “sand box” Cold war wonder weapons like the cerburus rai k or forsaken axe
If I’m gonna be honest, this game was doomed from day one. The fucking CEO just wanted ONE MORE cash cow to milk dry before he was forced to step down after Xbox acquired Activision. MWIII was never meant to exist, and yet, because of that greedy asshole, the game and studios suffered for it. After Season 1, I wouldn’t be surprised if Treyarch jumped ship and decided to have a small team to keep MWZ running while they focused all of their major resources for BO6 Zombies, a decision which saved their asses.
I'm an avid Zombies Veteran and after the absolute shitshow that was Vanguard and Modern Warfare Zombies myself and the very large group I'm affiliated with all agree that BO6 will be our last CoD. Such a shame they care more about a mode that's past its prime over the literal structure that made CoD an actual game.
I am confused by you saying that the MWZ story line will be finished in BO6 when BO6 takes place in the 90's... about 20-30 years before MWZ. If anything they might jump back to it during BO7 the following year since that is either a remake and/or continuation of BO2. Kinda like how we had Cold War and than Vanguard which was a prequel. Edit: On a different note to top off the swapping of studios supporting MWZ, which happened just before or just after season 2 of MWIII, most studios were hit by layoffs and if I remember correctly the studio that took over support lost between 20-40% of its staff. Though i also don't know which studio took over. Gonna have to go with you and guess High Moon.
What killed the game mode was the patching of the Tombstone glitch. Very glad I finished bioluminescence and borealis camo grind before it was patched.
They had a good foundation for a open world zombies but the fact that they didn’t add anything except adding new stories and a dark aether vartiant of a POI map in Al mazrah and since treyarch has left development it started the downfall of mwz
I played this for like, nearly 600 hours because I had nothing better to play at the time and honestly, looking back, and even at the time, I want my time and money back lol. This was a bigger joke than Vanguard Zombies.
Would’ve loved to see more warzone maps be used for zombies, maybe even had a round based mode or something less obnoxious like unstable, I wish it was easier and less difficult and just a grind mode for camos because it takes forever to get them done, and allowed for a third slot or something for a third gun at some point
MWZ had alot of potential but it also just has fundamental design issues. This mode in alot of my matches is downright unplayable as a solo player because Treyarch and whoever helped with it for some reason probably thought those 24 players in a lobby would all be neatly spread out around the map and didn't realize that putting SBMM in Zombies will cause every player in the higher skill lobbies to clog up the High Threat Zone to the point that going to the Medium Threat Zone nets you more points. This mode should've only had 12 player lobbies, i'm sure the server issues would be less common too that way.
Am a DMZ fan (as flawed and sweaty as it was) and a zombies fan so this should’ve been a slam dunk. Instead whenever I play it I just feel like it’s wasted potential; I only really play it now to help others get through the Dark Aether and get their schematics, and mindlessly grind the (sometimes awful) camo challenges. It’s a shame too.
I feel like the openworld was a fun switchup from the traditional zombies… and it seems like maybe you forgot vanguard zombies? That was universally panned and I think that took the cake for “bad zombies” by miles compared to any other
The rise was the dark ather rifts, and then the fall was everything. After that, they could have done so much, but it was a cash grab from the getgo. I thought it was a fresh breath it wasnt a zombirs game and i still prefer round based this game got boring after you unlocked all the scematics and done all the story missions
I think mwz would have been considered a banger if it came directly after bo3 or any other universally loved zombies mode "oh cool a zombies mode in a sledgehammer game, bonus!" Would probably have been the sentiment, instead it came after years of them trying to change the formula in ways we didn't want followed by a big content drought when we just want old style zombies. Improper resource allocation and lack of endgame hurt the mode but not nearly as much as the context and time of release. There are so many things that could have gone so right, imagine if instead of a time based mode we just had the zombies get tougher over time and after 60 minutes it's just theoretically impossible to survive the hordes of roided out super sprinters. Imagine an option where you check a box and get multiplicative double xp but you can't take any items into the mode. Imagine if it had launched (or season 1 had launched) with a hyper mode boss. Like if you beat the dark aether you can press an alternate button to loop the dark ather, reset the map and timer, it dumps your inventory into your rewards stash and go again but harder, loop 5 times and do the secret boss for a secret blueprint
Just trying to remember the entire life cycle of this MWIII, MWZ definitely got cu*ked. I remember there was zombies and zombie contracts around Fortune's Keep back in S2. Even when visiting the Purgatory mode like how chaotic this mode can handle with NPC's, zombie NPC's, players, the shipment map, and then players dying left and right so quick like dang this map can handle all that? I do feel like MWZ should've worked out in the smaller Warzone map (Fortune, Vondel, Ashika, Rebirth) but instead of 24 player co-op it reduces to an extent like 18 or down to 12. Most of not all contracts and new field upgrades from WZ should've been implemented to MWZ when they were launched or launched when the reloaded content dropped. The mode itself kept their co-op experience with the zombie twist but had potential to dish out the general audience of zombie fans. If and for whatever reason MWZ 2 comes out it should stay in WZ UI Hub along with DMZ (PvP or PvPvE), Plunder, Resurgence, Battle Royale. Let it be free in that platform if it mainly sticks to WZ themed.
They don’t care about zombies and haven’t for a very long time at this point. I genuinely feel they throw scraps just to shut us up. Yea bo6 zombies isn’t terrible, but it’s still not the zombies we wanted. They hate that they have to give us something other than warzone and multiplayer. I’m sure they wish we would just move on and stop playing it
I mean... People have been criticizing COD always online and everything else for decades. I don't blame the devs thinking this is actually what the fans want. The COD fans just want something to spend their money on. If gaming was to go up in flames the COD community will just shrug and move onto the next slop pile... Like Football, or gambling.
Treyarch didn’t try when making MWZ because they didn’t care. They were busying with BO6 but Activision said “hey we pay the bills go make this tacked on mode for this unnecessary game”
Ngl, i just started playing cod mw3 this week after playing black ops 6 beta (the last cod i played a decent amount of was bo3, and only 2 matches of warzone) and i will say that i absolutely love MW3 zombies, so fun.
I know I'm the "few" but I loved the hell out of MWZ. I didnt play campaign, multiplayer or Warzone. I only played MW2 for DMZ so a zombies, DMZ hybrid had me hooked. I quit CoD forever last May but I'm a huge fan of MWZ.
To be fair, if you bought MW3 you deserve crap. You have to be a trully professional shit eater to havebought this scam game considering what they promised the previous year.
I will not accept this High Moon Studios slander. Transformers War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron are a testament to their skills as a studio, and I wish they could do more than just be yet another CoD work horse.
Toys for Bob is another one. I thought Crash Bandicoot 4 was a great creative game but then Activision shoved them under the call of duty boot instead afterwards
FACE FACTS! NO POINT IN GRINDING WHEN THE SERVERS LITERALLY WILL DISCONNECT YOU, BLACK SCREEN YOU, BUGS, HELL YOU CANT EVEN PLAY WITHOUT CROSSPLAY ON. The Queues are HORRENDOUS!!!! reach high containment? no worries, ACTIVISION will introduce you to a lag switch so fast YOU CANT EVEN ENJOY THE NEXT MATCH. LOOT GONE, UPDATES CAUSE EVEN THE FILES TO BE REMOVED FROM YOUR ACTUAL CONSOL! Like be frfr ILL NEVER BUY another activision NOTHING! This entire modern warfare 3 was heart breaking experience. Been around since the release and it NEVER GOT BETTER! I’m officially retiring. Been here since mw2 (og). This is a sad way to go but I legit have ptsd from this
I got into this game late (bo6 was a month old), I think it was a decent game mode in a vacuum. I always thought of it as Outbreak on crack, it's just fun to chill around in. is it the best Zombies game mode? No, and I am well aware Treyarch was obligated to do a zombies gamemode. If you really like classic Zombies or if you hated Outbreak, this is not the game mode for you.
To be honest, the more I played modernwarfare, 3 zombies, the more I started liking it. So I don't know about you, but I actually enjoyed it a little bit. Don't get me wrong. I love round, based. I love it, but having opened world zombie was pretty cool if they would have made it into a different map instead of the war zone map that would have been better.I think that's what really turned me down was that
When are people going to realize that sledgehammer studios is just an untalented privileged name that gets to work under the cod name. They haven’t done anything good. Name 1 thing they’ve done right. I don’t know how they can even keep making cod especially since the ceo came out and stated during mw3 that she didn’t know what they were doing
It’s because it wasn’t popular in the first place. The few idiots in the comments always defending it is crazy because it’s the worst version of zombies ever.
I do not like mw3 zom because it was open world and you had to go to the zombies instead of the zombies hunting you. ZOMBIES SHOULD ALWAYS BE ROUND BASED. Anyways hope y’all have a good day.😊
In Conclusion? MWZ was a soulless filler mode with wasted potential. In my personal opinion, MW3 should've had made their own unique take of zombies without any Treyarch inspiration or connection. Or, this'll be crazy but hear me out, why not make Extinction? DMZ but with extinction aliens? Ya know, to actually try something different and actually would've worked well with the mechanics of DMZ. I said this with Vanguard because Zombies just doesn't work with Open World mechanics. It's just boring and low content central.
It’s not black ops so we arnt losing anything by having a fresh take on zombies. If the new black ops game or other mainline treyarch zombies changed it this much then I would get being upset. But it’s not. I say let them try something new. Everyone complains about cod being the same every year but when it’s announced cod is changing something it gets hated before it even comes out. I’ll admit I wasn’t the biggest fan of mw3 zombies but I had fun. Idk how it changed after release I stopped playing a few months after
I actually think your idea is very good. I think the Black Ops games should be traditional zombies, and they should use the non-Black Ops games to experiment with stuff
I just want them to keep zombies zombified and not cater to multiplayer players, if you don't like zombies for what it has to offer then you don't like zombies
hardest comment of 2024
Gatekeeping weirdo
This is kind of a nothing argument though, if you dont like zombies now then you dontt like zombies, is this statement any less truth than what you said?
who determines what is and what isnt zombies?
is it treyarch? bc then you would be giving me the point there
is it the community? good luck with that man everyone has a different opinion there
this is kind of a nothing statement ngl
@Nuniya0 legend bro, I appreciate it🔥🍻
@dazth3legend670 I do like zombies now though I think it stays true to the core elements of zombies and what we all fell in love with in the first place, the only major thing I don't like about it is the point system and costs for different things but its growing on me i dont like it but i can deal with it, other than that I'm cool with it and love it
I wasn't aware that there was a rise
I was gonna say that☹️
When it first released there was an official Activision statement saying it was there most popular and active zombies mode “in recent years” wether it’s true or bs (most likely bs) who knows. Regardless the mode died the moment they didn’t add more Warzone maps or weekly content like multiplayer.
@@davidbeltran8142 i played it for the first time abt 2 weeks ago and it was pretty fun after i completely understood what to do, and then it just got kinda boring after a little bit. if they would add the other dmz maps, maybe verdansk, and some extra bosses (which will probably never happen now) im sure itd be seen in a brighter light
@@anarchy6918 I thought it was alright nothing special or anything but they really showed they did not give a fuck about the zombies community by adding only crumbs of content seasonly and not giving zombie players Fortunes keep and rebirth as maps in MWZ
Game was fun at launch but got boring
I wish they would just stop with the half assed zombie attempts in non treyarch games. I would rather wait longer for a zombies mode with more time and effort put into them.
@@henkjeoma8069 communities fault.. everytime shg or iw tried a sidemode it was hated bc it wasnt 3arc zombies.. now thx to that u see what happened
@sirgrizzlypfote6369 that's not completely true I think mw2/3 spec ops was pretty well liked plus mw3 survival was also not half bad. Mw19 spec ops had potential but they really dropoed the ball on that one
@@sirgrizzlypfote6369iw zombies in space land is s in all zombie map rankings wdym
Treyarch made it so idk what you mean. Sometimes I don't think yall know what your talking about.
@@TheRipKingI know treyarch made the zombies in mw3 and vanguard as well. Doesnt take away that they clearly didnt get the resources to make it a good game mode. I'd rather have another bonus map in bo6 then whatever they tried to do in mw3.
Oen thing you didnt mention was how during the **ZOMBIES** themed season 2, WZ and MP got more zombies content than the actual zombies mode, including new zombie contracts in WZ that MWZ never got as well as turning the fortune's keep WZ map into a zombie-ified map in the keep or whatever it was, with spores to make it look like a infested stronghold.
That was when I realized "Oh. We're getting table scraps now after we had one good meal in season 1" and ro realzie that during a "ZOMBIES" themed season...yeah that was harsh.
@@snilipp5 Exactly. I thought they would add round rifts of the zombie themed multiplayer maps but nope not even that
I liked this mode, but its horrible for solo/with randoms, and the amount of progress ive lost from random crashes made me quit
"Biggest map ever" gave me transit flashbacks when i saw it
A big issue this game had was giving us Operation Deadbolt and absolutely nothing else to play…
I could forgive the bare bones content we got every season if they gave us something major to offset it. Like if we got Onslaught on the Vortex maps, or some of the Aether rifts turned into their own individual maps with contracts to complete. Maybe even take Purgatory and put it into Zombies instead of getting rid of it completely.
Hell, I would take MWZ but on Verdansk or Rebirth Island or whatever other Warzone map.
Just SOMETHING else to play besides Operation Deadbolt on Urzikstan
Bro i swear i can not find the willpower to play this gamemode. Especially with those boring ass Act missions.
i've played it for the entire year and i still want to take bolt cutters to each of my digits and remove them one by one. as someone who has played zeds since WaW, this is worse than nacht "post life cycle". vanguard at least tried to salvage.
So many people wanted to dislike this from the jump because it wasn't round based. It certainly has flaws however its a good third mode that became stale from lack of support. This was a way better third mode for MW, compared to their attempts at Spec Ops from MW2019 onward. I perfer Round Based however we weren't going to recieve that this year and im sure out of the 3000 devs this didn't actually take to many resources from other Treyarch Zombies projects.
Spec Ops from MW2019 imo was cool because like MW3(OG), they were stories happening during or after the campaign with different characters that offer lore and intense action. What tucked was the fact that they're just mini campaign missions on the Verdansk map instead of having unique levels for the mode and update it with the seasons. Imo, it had potential but it was obviously an afterthought
@@murderous_hotdog no this mode just sucked lol. The story was boring, only having 45 minutes and being forced to quit sucked, the gameplay loop was bring and the mastery camo sucked
Hello fellow based Cold War Zombies enjoyer
>killing the storm caller should add an extra 20-30 minutes.
>Should have revamped the menu and stash system, similar to dmz and add an in game stash house like tarkov or from the bo3 campaign
>some actual form of 'old school zombies" whether in the form of a new contract or hidden easter that takes you to a new map completely made for zombies and hold out with the option of leaving.
>new contracts, horde lord or hive leader (yous can come up with better names) you need to gather a small to medium large group of zombies and bring them to a turned station, turning them into brainrotted zombies, then assault a new stronghold for this contract.
>hidden ZOMBIE warlords, not just the copy paste of mimic, manglers, and mega bombs (but again treyarch said there would be no new zombie boss types)
26:47 thats the Problem with idiots within Community trying to “tie” Zombies into MP or Campaign when they had nothing to do with Zombies
I just wish they would have actually supported it. There's one map. They didn't add any new POIs from Warzone, or new maps, or new enemies or Easter eggs.
They added a few side things to the basic ass warzone map but nothing of actual substance. It had potential to be awesome but they just gave up on it instantly for no discernable reason.
I think what’s the saddest thing about this is that they had it right the first time with outbreak. Smaller open zones with challenges strung through out that gets harder and harder each time you move to a new area. It had two Easter eggs and was extremely fun to grind and see how far you can get. This was watered down to get more casual players to hop in. The multiplayer only crowd. Which wasn’t going to play zombies anyway.
Now because of it we will never see something like outbreak again most likely which is sad cause outbreak was fucking awesome.
Doesn’t the word “decline” infer that mw3 zombies was in a fun and/or acceptable state to begin with? Pretty hard to decline from rock bottom
The fall and downfall of MWZ. Goida
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The fact that they had 4 extra maps and they could’ve use those as the seasonal maps is really confusing to me, me and my friend were excited to see fortune’s keep be added to zombies because it just made sense but I guess adding zombies and a filter to the map was way too much work…except it wasn’t because they made purgatory and they changed the look of rebirth island
It’s a love hate for me for sure, it’s fun being able to start a match with pap3 and full perks. But the time limit and slight competitiveness with racing to contracts before someone else grabs it is painful.
19:36 "zombified version of rebirth island" sounds familiar 😭
I really liked the launch and season 1.
But it really needed more in the next seasons.
More contracts, more maps, more wonder weapons
0:15 the people who like bo4 are treated the same as people who like tranzit: yes you can sit at the lunch table, but stay on the empty side
The side at the lunch table where they aren’t fighting
@@DJAK792 cuz who are they gonna fight with? noahj?
@@personanongrata47 well the guys who like vanguard 🤣
@@DJAK792 close enough lol
@@personanongrata47 it was a bit of a joke tbh, I’m a bo4 lover and I just enjoy playing my game without having to defend it every single day
Just going to say, I've been playing CoD since the start (yeah I'm old) and I never really got into zombies, I did try it here and there but it was never my thing. But MWZ changed that and I loved this mode, at least the potential it had, they basically abandoned it and looks like its not coming back...
Dont knock on High Moon dude, they're good people, they did the Cybertron games for Transformers
Nice video! You seem to be gravitating away front short rants lol
The part where you said something about the bunkers not being opened up in MWZ is my most high point question. The question being “When are the bunkers going to be opened”? Now I have my answer.
Something declining means that its base had potential... What potential has a gamemode with a copy pasted map that just got zombies and perks added to it?
The marketing for this mode feels borderline illegal and it was essentially a rug pull with the “content updates”, very disrespectful
But you made a good video documenting it, so thank you
I picked up mw3 last week when it finally went on sale for 50% off during its last season. I considered this title to be an expansion pack to mw2 and i wasnt willing to pay anything more than half, out of principle, so i feel like i got my moneys worth considering all the updates to multiplayer which is why i bought it, but man seeing how little was added to the zombie mode each season i can understand why players felt shafted in that department, even more so when all of the elements are already there in-game, just not implemented; the horror-themed mp variant maps, the fact that each mp map can work with zombies via hordepoint, missed dmz missions and updates to warzone. Even last years haunting update felt waaay more polished with the five or so different bosses and areas you could visit and fight instead of a barebones, albeit, cool looking variant of rebirth island with what, a floating shipment and a spooky ball you can kick at people? They really need to stop doing yearly releases and let the developers actually see a vision through rather than drop the support half way in favor of getting the next game in a playable state for next year.
Honestly crazy that they literally programmed zombies spawning on all the multiplayer maps (and dropping loot) and didn't add it to zombies
I really enjoyed this zombies. The only things I hated are; I can’t change my operator without losing progress, can’t play locally or solo, and the disconnect along with server issues. I unlocked every schematic as well
They were gonna add new contracts to the game. A variant of Cargo escort but you use a boat, and a Hostage Rescue contract where you save scientists from Terminus mercs where they'll kill the hostages the longer you took. But they all got scrapped early.
Dang. I really wish they didn't scrap them
@@CatCrossed That’s definitely weird that they scrapped those contracts, especially because they already existed in DMZ. Then again, there’s a lot of nicer DMZ things that didn’t get added like the Barter system or Attachment Workbench, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
Mwiii zombies mode was extremely boring to me.
@@Truth.Alphaz same. i play zombies since cod5 and this mode was boring very quickly.
the most insulting part is the mode being completely abandoned with 0 content updates.
i hate the fact they reused the map.
I know it's cliche, but I'm genuinely surprised you don't have more subs. You put out some of the best zombies content in a time where the community feels almost dead. I hope your channel takes off soon bro, good stuff
At first I enjoyed mwz but after awhile it became so boring, repetitive, and a chore. It just felt like work every time I loaded in
No zombies can be worse than Vanguard. Trash from day one then they add in a remastered map and flop it as well. They put zones instead of rounds and Infinity Ward decided to say "Hey, let's do that but without doors to different areas let's create 3 different areas that has harder zombies as you get to the center but let's use the old DMZ formula." Infinity Ward died in 2019, Sledgehammer died in 2017. Their last good games of each year. MWZ was so laggy that you barely played for 10 minutes without crashing and losing your loadout. The last good open world zombies was outbreak in Cold War. At least it had sort of an identity and was fun.
23:23 isn't that just Outlast
Decline? Didn't even know people even considered this important or canon to begin with lol
I actually really really really liked it, i just wish there was more content for it. Story wise it sucked, but i had just pure stupid fun on it especially with friends.
What rise?
Whats so odd is that with MWZ I would play like 10 mins and get super bored with leveling up the guns...doing boring contracts over and over again, just so I can have 10 real mins at the end of the mission to do what I came into to do. Rinse repeat.
Now in BO6 zombies. I can play solo on either map and just chill for hours having a fun time by myself. Same cycle of leveling weapons and getting perks. But I feel all the wasted filler of it being on a huge map and boring contracts makes it much better. That or I am just a zombies purist. Although onslaught was good.
I bought MW3 but never played zombies and I’m a HUGE zombies player I just never thought it was worth it
They could have also turn some of the vortex maps into round base maps, yeah I know this comment might sound dumb but it would have keep the round base players happy so that way they can play it while waiting for new original maps for bo6
Think of it playing terminal as a round base map, the layout is perfect to with training spots every where
I feel like MWZ would’ve preformed much better if it leaned into its DMZ aspect, as honestly, theres no other reason to have DMZ features like stashes only for it to be an arbitrary hinderance
Add in a PVP mode, add in daily missions & dead drops, add in more contracts, add in a hardcore mode where you start alone & with a pistol & you must find more teammates for better survivability, hell reuse some of the bigger vortex map varients for a round based mode, all you gotta do is put in barriers, doors, perks & the pap
Just played this mode for the first time yesterday. I already feel like I have experienced everything it has to offer.
onslaught is so lazy its perfect
i think i have more time in onslaught containment than all the four cold war maps combined
Would’ve loved to see some more wonder weapons added especially since this was a “sand box”
Cold war wonder weapons like the cerburus rai k or forsaken axe
If I’m gonna be honest, this game was doomed from day one. The fucking CEO just wanted ONE MORE cash cow to milk dry before he was forced to step down after Xbox acquired Activision. MWIII was never meant to exist, and yet, because of that greedy asshole, the game and studios suffered for it. After Season 1, I wouldn’t be surprised if Treyarch jumped ship and decided to have a small team to keep MWZ running while they focused all of their major resources for BO6 Zombies, a decision which saved their asses.
I'm an avid Zombies Veteran and after the absolute shitshow that was Vanguard and Modern Warfare Zombies myself and the very large group I'm affiliated with all agree that BO6 will be our last CoD.
Such a shame they care more about a mode that's past its prime over the literal structure that made CoD an actual game.
I am confused by you saying that the MWZ story line will be finished in BO6 when BO6 takes place in the 90's... about 20-30 years before MWZ. If anything they might jump back to it during BO7 the following year since that is either a remake and/or continuation of BO2.
Kinda like how we had Cold War and than Vanguard which was a prequel.
Edit: On a different note to top off the swapping of studios supporting MWZ, which happened just before or just after season 2 of MWIII, most studios were hit by layoffs and if I remember correctly the studio that took over support lost between 20-40% of its staff. Though i also don't know which studio took over. Gonna have to go with you and guess High Moon.
I've heard it was either High Moon, Sledgehammer, or both
What killed the game mode was the patching of the Tombstone glitch. Very glad I finished bioluminescence and borealis camo grind before it was patched.
tombstone glich was never patched tf you talking bout?
They had a good foundation for a open world zombies but the fact that they didn’t add anything except adding new stories and a dark aether vartiant of a POI map in Al mazrah and since treyarch has left development it started the downfall of mwz
Idk why modern warfare has zombie, it should’ve had extinction instead
oh my god yes
@@SlothSandwhich I LOVED extinction. It deserved more attention and it needs to come back
I played this for like, nearly 600 hours because I had nothing better to play at the time and honestly, looking back, and even at the time, I want my time and money back lol. This was a bigger joke than Vanguard Zombies.
There was a rise?
Would’ve loved to see more warzone maps be used for zombies, maybe even had a round based mode or something less obnoxious like unstable, I wish it was easier and less difficult and just a grind mode for camos because it takes forever to get them done, and allowed for a third slot or something for a third gun at some point
9:26 and then they nerfed said waves of hundreds of zombies 😂😂😂
MWZ had alot of potential but it also just has fundamental design issues.
This mode in alot of my matches is downright unplayable as a solo player because Treyarch and whoever helped with it for some reason probably thought those 24 players in a lobby would all be neatly spread out around the map and didn't realize that putting SBMM in Zombies will cause every player in the higher skill lobbies to clog up the High Threat Zone to the point that going to the Medium Threat Zone nets you more points.
This mode should've only had 12 player lobbies, i'm sure the server issues would be less common too that way.
Am a DMZ fan (as flawed and sweaty as it was) and a zombies fan so this should’ve been a slam dunk. Instead whenever I play it I just feel like it’s wasted potential; I only really play it now to help others get through the Dark Aether and get their schematics, and mindlessly grind the (sometimes awful) camo challenges. It’s a shame too.
I feel like the openworld was a fun switchup from the traditional zombies… and it seems like maybe you forgot vanguard zombies? That was universally panned and I think that took the cake for “bad zombies” by miles compared to any other
The rise was the dark ather rifts, and then the fall was everything. After that, they could have done so much, but it was a cash grab from the getgo. I thought it was a fresh breath it wasnt a zombirs game and i still prefer round based this game got boring after you unlocked all the scematics and done all the story missions
Actually is a boss every game.
And any game gets boring after completing.
I think mwz would have been considered a banger if it came directly after bo3 or any other universally loved zombies mode "oh cool a zombies mode in a sledgehammer game, bonus!" Would probably have been the sentiment, instead it came after years of them trying to change the formula in ways we didn't want followed by a big content drought when we just want old style zombies.
Improper resource allocation and lack of endgame hurt the mode but not nearly as much as the context and time of release.
There are so many things that could have gone so right, imagine if instead of a time based mode we just had the zombies get tougher over time and after 60 minutes it's just theoretically impossible to survive the hordes of roided out super sprinters.
Imagine an option where you check a box and get multiplicative double xp but you can't take any items into the mode.
Imagine if it had launched (or season 1 had launched) with a hyper mode boss. Like if you beat the dark aether you can press an alternate button to loop the dark ather, reset the map and timer, it dumps your inventory into your rewards stash and go again but harder, loop 5 times and do the secret boss for a secret blueprint
0:14 no one’s ever waxed harder facts than these
Just trying to remember the entire life cycle of this MWIII, MWZ definitely got cu*ked. I remember there was zombies and zombie contracts around Fortune's Keep back in S2. Even when visiting the Purgatory mode like how chaotic this mode can handle with NPC's, zombie NPC's, players, the shipment map, and then players dying left and right so quick like dang this map can handle all that?
I do feel like MWZ should've worked out in the smaller Warzone map (Fortune, Vondel, Ashika, Rebirth) but instead of 24 player co-op it reduces to an extent like 18 or down to 12. Most of not all contracts and new field upgrades from WZ should've been implemented to MWZ when they were launched or launched when the reloaded content dropped. The mode itself kept their co-op experience with the zombie twist but had potential to dish out the general audience of zombie fans.
If and for whatever reason MWZ 2 comes out it should stay in WZ UI Hub along with DMZ (PvP or PvPvE), Plunder, Resurgence, Battle Royale. Let it be free in that platform if it mainly sticks to WZ themed.
They don’t care about zombies and haven’t for a very long time at this point. I genuinely feel they throw scraps just to shut us up. Yea bo6 zombies isn’t terrible, but it’s still not the zombies we wanted. They hate that they have to give us something other than warzone and multiplayer. I’m sure they wish we would just move on and stop playing it
Rise ?
This entry of zombies was absolute garbage. Tried to remake a wheel that wasn't working. They needed to stay in their lane.
Thank you Treyarch for knowing to leave this dumbster fire of a mode and 100% focusing on cooking BO6 zombies
i hated that you pretty much kept nothing after extracting
I mean... People have been criticizing COD always online and everything else for decades. I don't blame the devs thinking this is actually what the fans want. The COD fans just want something to spend their money on. If gaming was to go up in flames the COD community will just shrug and move onto the next slop pile... Like Football, or gambling.
Let's forget that the game would keep crashing
Imagine seeing round based in modern warfare is gonna feel so cursed lol 😅
MW3 and MW2019 had survival, I could see RBZ working in a Modern Warfare game
Treyarch didn’t try when making MWZ because they didn’t care. They were busying with BO6 but Activision said “hey we pay the bills go make this tacked on mode for this unnecessary game”
I don't think they wanted to, I always felt they had a gun in their heads doing this gamemode.
Decline? It never peaked.
It went negative 💀
Ngl, i just started playing cod mw3 this week after playing black ops 6 beta (the last cod i played a decent amount of was bo3, and only 2 matches of warzone) and i will say that i absolutely love MW3 zombies, so fun.
Decline is an interesting word, as that would imply it was good in the first place.
I liked mw3 zombies for a while
MW3 multiplayer was the best thing about this game. Sledgehammer cooked with the maps. Zombies sucked cause I couldn’t play longer that 45 mins
I know I'm the "few" but I loved the hell out of MWZ. I didnt play campaign, multiplayer or Warzone. I only played MW2 for DMZ so a zombies, DMZ hybrid had me hooked. I quit CoD forever last May but I'm a huge fan of MWZ.
To be fair, if you bought MW3 you deserve crap. You have to be a trully professional shit eater to havebought this scam game considering what they promised the previous year.
I will not accept this High Moon Studios slander. Transformers War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron are a testament to their skills as a studio, and I wish they could do more than just be yet another CoD work horse.
Toys for Bob is another one. I thought Crash Bandicoot 4 was a great creative game but then Activision shoved them under the call of duty boot instead afterwards
FACE FACTS! NO POINT IN GRINDING WHEN THE SERVERS LITERALLY WILL DISCONNECT YOU, BLACK SCREEN YOU, BUGS, HELL YOU CANT EVEN PLAY WITHOUT CROSSPLAY ON. The Queues are HORRENDOUS!!!! reach high containment? no worries, ACTIVISION will introduce you to a lag switch so fast YOU CANT EVEN ENJOY THE NEXT MATCH. LOOT GONE, UPDATES CAUSE EVEN THE FILES TO BE REMOVED FROM YOUR ACTUAL CONSOL! Like be frfr ILL NEVER BUY another activision NOTHING! This entire modern warfare 3 was heart breaking experience. Been around since the release and it NEVER GOT BETTER! I’m officially retiring. Been here since mw2 (og). This is a sad way to go but I legit have ptsd from this
Personally this mode was fun, for me. Of course Had to turn my brain off?
I got into this game late (bo6 was a month old), I think it was a decent game mode in a vacuum. I always thought of it as Outbreak on crack, it's just fun to chill around in. is it the best Zombies game mode? No, and I am well aware Treyarch was obligated to do a zombies gamemode.
If you really like classic Zombies or if you hated Outbreak, this is not the game mode for you.
To be honest, the more I played modernwarfare, 3 zombies, the more I started liking it. So I don't know about you, but I actually enjoyed it a little bit. Don't get me wrong. I love round, based. I love it, but having opened world zombie was pretty cool if they would have made it into a different map instead of the war zone map that would have been better.I think that's what really turned me down was that
Wasn't Infinite Warfare zombies made by IW?
Yeah
Bro the vortex maps would have been SICK FOR ZOMBIES
MWZ existed??? I deadass thought it was a meme wtf. I didn't know this shit was actually real 😭
So many roundbase stans in the chat
This is why uninstall mw3
When are people going to realize that sledgehammer studios is just an untalented privileged name that gets to work under the cod name. They haven’t done anything good. Name 1 thing they’ve done right. I don’t know how they can even keep making cod especially since the ceo came out and stated during mw3 that she didn’t know what they were doing
I thought THE divisive point was IW zombies and not MW zombies
I've only been playing BO6 for a few days, but I'm already bored ........ I've done all the easter eggs. Round based is just repetitive afk.
It’s because it wasn’t popular in the first place. The few idiots in the comments always defending it is crazy because it’s the worst version of zombies ever.
Offline only mode is why I haven’t bought a cod since Cold War wasn’t really a fan of that either but atleast you can play online
I do not like mw3 zom because it was open world and you had to go to the zombies instead of the zombies hunting you. ZOMBIES SHOULD ALWAYS BE ROUND BASED. Anyways hope y’all have a good day.😊
In Conclusion? MWZ was a soulless filler mode with wasted potential. In my personal opinion, MW3 should've had made their own unique take of zombies without any Treyarch inspiration or connection. Or, this'll be crazy but hear me out, why not make Extinction? DMZ but with extinction aliens? Ya know, to actually try something different and actually would've worked well with the mechanics of DMZ. I said this with Vanguard because Zombies just doesn't work with Open World mechanics. It's just boring and low content central.
@@THEESilentMask44 infinite warfare type maps woulda been better
Forced Matchmaking is makes the game not good.
Especially if game been old then good luck
Greatest zombies mode of all time 🦖
It’s not black ops so we arnt losing anything by having a fresh take on zombies. If the new black ops game or other mainline treyarch zombies changed it this much then I would get being upset. But it’s not. I say let them try something new. Everyone complains about cod being the same every year but when it’s announced cod is changing something it gets hated before it even comes out. I’ll admit I wasn’t the biggest fan of mw3 zombies but I had fun. Idk how it changed after release I stopped playing a few months after
I actually think your idea is very good.
I think the Black Ops games should be traditional zombies, and they should use the non-Black Ops games to experiment with stuff
Decline?😂 it was shit from the start
I loved the idea of it, they just warzonefied it too much and it could’ve been so much more
I didn’t even know this game had zombies 🤷🏾♂️ I didn’t buy it