Sold ours. They aren’t bad for say a young 19-20 year old, but it isn’t a good car for someone who has experience in quicker vehicles. My 5th gen SS by example was 10 years older and bar none way more fun to drive and exhilarating. If you aren’t a style queen, this isn’t a good car. If you plan to just rice it out, get one. I found it lacking in performance, and lacking in exhaust tone. I also was annoyed by how many people mistook is for a Supra, which made me feel like a “broke.” Poser. This car is great tier quality for younger audience who dream of a 30k sports car, but truly not aimed at someone who makes 200k+ a year. It lacks in Raw power, but it makes up in the department of easy slides for how light it is.
@@alvingeroy3242 I guess different strokes for different folks. I had a lease on an M340 that recently ended and didn’t get this but pretty much it’s competitor or what people look at (MX-5). Granted think I have diff/ unique situation. I had a 3 year lease on my M340 but this past year I received a new job where I was lucky enough to pick out a company SUV to have full time or else might have bought my M340 despite some of the issues I was having with it and felt like the dealership were just money makers which most dealers are especially in service issues. But in that case I just wanted a fun little weekend car. I test drove a new MX-5 manual and was instantly hooked. Yeah it’s a Mazda but once I got past that I didn’t care. It truly is a drivers car and so much fun to drive. No it’s not the fastest, def in a straight line haha but it’s fun around corners and through the mountains/ canyons. I laughed when I saw the HP but they weigh less than a scooter it feels like (never liked something less than 300 HP). I’m not the youngest out there but I’m 31 years old and do decent for myself but didn’t see the point of spending twice the money for a play car and I plan on modding this car quite well performance wise so it will be fun and not break the bank like any aftermarket BMW parts would but that’s just how it goes for higher end sports cars. Having a convertible is fun and I’m loving it. I did look at a Z4 but no manual and hard after getting the M experience even though it’s not the full M experience. I will say I would love to have an M2 one day or C43 AMG when that can be a weekend car really. But I think it’s just what a person needs to enjoy something.
I love the car but somehow it really bothers me that, when you up- or downshift, it doesn't register for 3 seconds on the digital screen🤣 Keep it up Luke
@@dirtydanchicago not just the tires but could you also let me know how the car handles, drives etc? I’m looking to get a gr86 but I live in East Canada and it snows crazy here.
It saddens me that, having had the brz/gt86 as my favourite cat since I was twelve, now that I can drive, I won't have the money to buy this improved gr86 as my first car before 2024😢
Absolutely beautiful video, I've got 2 questions. First, what camera are you using for the POV shots? The quality is superb, and compared to my brand new hero gopro 10, it makes my gopro look like a cell phone. Second question is how are you mounting your A7SIII in the passenger seat? I'm fairly certain those shots coming from the passenger seat POV are with the A7SIII, and just wondering how exactly you're mounting it / setting it up to have it so sturdy in your passenger seat?
Well I can only speak for the older Scion FRS, which revs pretty high and generally makes a ton of heat! You probably could be quite comfortable in a t-shirt lol
I really do wonder just....how? looking at you drive this car is just so much fun great video! but how does the car take these corners and not slip in the beginning? I have a Camry and I go wayyyy slower yet I find myself sliding all over the place! granted it might be the tires are loosing tread but....HOW??? again great video!
Great drive! How challenging is this car to drive if one never has driven a rear wheel drive car with such a happy tail? I have seen reviews where it was recommended to do a driver safety training where you learn to drift and other reviews saying this car is not dangerous if you just drive normal and responsible. what is your recommendation? is this car still equally fun to drive if you dont push it to small drifts on each drive?
You’ll be A-OK. I had a ‘17 as my first RWD. On dry and wet pavement, the only way to spin out would be stabbing the throttle in first or second gear mid corner (which you wouldn’t do in FWD or AWD really, anyway). In snow, make sure you put on good winter tires. The back end will slide out on tight corners, but it’s very predictable with snow tires. Practice some countersteering and throttle inputs in a parking lot first snowfall and you’ll learn quickly. The key is not to be overconfident, but not to be fearful either. I would also never attempt to drive an 86 in snow or slush or low temps without quality winter tires. I’ve since graduated to higher power RWD vehicles but am considering getting one of the new GR86s. They just look amazing and winter driving was a blast in the previous gen!
is it not a dangerous car in Mountain for every drive in Winter ? I have a T-roc R (which is very safe) but thinking to switch to a GR86 for a better character car :)
I live in Boston and winter hasn’t been as bad 5 years ago & I really would like to have one but I’m not sure if it’s dumb of me buying it or not 😢 any suggestions
@@bjornmuller7205 It is actually built by Subaru. Both the GR and the BRZ are both built in the Subaru Factory in Gunma. The Car is also developed pretty much completely by Subaru.
Hey mate, How would you compare this with the GR Yaris? And which would you choose? I can’t decide between the two. In Germany they are now both the same price haha
PLEASE get Toyota/Subaru to release a Corrective Action on the RTV silicone clogging up the oil pickup tube strainer. There is way too much RTV silicone being applied from the factory and pieces are breaking off and clogging up the oil pickup tube strainer enough to damage engines. PLEASE get Toyota/Subaru corporate to fix this issue and use simple gaskets!!
@@pargolf3158 You can have the dealer do it with programming or follow the instructions at the end of this video. There are other interesting to dos in this video as well. th-cam.com/video/0xKPuP4Xr_Y/w-d-xo.html
Potential buyers beware: this is fake sound from the speakers and rev hang is more than obvious. Just drove one last week and those are the only two big negatives for this car. General experience for a "driver's car" that can be bought in 2022/2023 is more than good. My personal opinion is - get an used sport car from early 2000s and get it sorted out for a grand total of price of the GR86. If it must be a new car, then there is no other option, which can be usable also for a 2 person vacation longer than just a weekend (looking at you, Miata/MX-5).
Yeah but you can buy a new car on finance, it has a warranty and it’s not worn out. Enjoy tipping lotsa of dollars into an old car then modifying it and having an accident and getting the insurance denied too.
Wow, I was wondering where have you been on your other channel. These videos are awesome. Only thing is I think the camera should be mounted a bit higher. Check out Tedward channel, his POV videos have the perfect camera height, AFAIK he just clips gopro onto a baseball cap.
That was def driver’s fault not the cars. There is zero rev hang in BRZs/86s. Driver was extremely slow with his clutch releases. I counted almost a full second between his throttle blips and actual clutch engagement.
@@carswithlukepov No question if I was buying new at this price point, this would be the car. I haven't driven a GR, but in this video it sounds a lot like the GT86, which I have driven and sounds like crap to my ears. In the end, I just wouldn't buy new at this price point. £30k gives you a lot of lovely used options. Call it £25k to have £5k in back pocket for faults and you can still buy, say, a 987.2 3.4 Cayman. The GR will be better in a few specific areas, but not much of a contest overall.
@@flat6croc I think it has potential to sound good with the boxster engine but yes right now it's really muffled. Sure you could also by an old cayman for that money but you won't have things like 10 years warranty like this has. Would be a tough call what to buy though.
@@flat6croc Here we go again with this 'lOoK aT wHaT uSED cAr yOU cAn BUy At tHE sAme pRice' crap. Compare the maintenance costs of the Porsche (especially with its IMS bearing issues on 987.1) to the Toyota, then talk kid. GR86 is lighter, with a smaller displacement engine and uses narrower tyres so consumable costs for the Cayman will add up to be a lot more expensive over the years of ownership.
2:32 hearing the same shifter rattle defect that my 2021 has (that was supposed to be fixed around 2014) makes me laugh. Never change Toyota, delivering truly fantastic piles of shit.
I appreciate that you are having fun rather than storing it in garage worrying about how you wouldn't be able to save it for the next owner.
It's a cheap econo sports car not a Ferrari... Here in U.S. highschool kids drive used last gen 86s.
The car costs the same as a honda civic I'm not sure it matters if it gets driven in the snow
@@MistaBrown420 not in uk it don’t there 35k here 😂
@@xFlared Even if it was a Ferrari, not using a car should be shameful
@@alan1pinon Yeah but I wouldn't daily a Ferrari in winter on destroyed streets. It's built for a different purpose.
I wish more people would do these simple drives without any commentary or music just like you do. It’s very enjoyable, thanks for the great video!
I like seeing you drive "normal" cars, like the 86, in these beautiful landscapes. More of these please!
Switzerland is so beautiful
not having tons of power must make it soooo much fun in the winter, I can't wait to try one myself
You said it right!
Even my first gen is super slidey on the icy roads. -40 hits different
Sold ours.
They aren’t bad for say a young 19-20 year old, but it isn’t a good car for someone who has experience in quicker vehicles.
My 5th gen SS by example was 10 years older and bar none way more fun to drive and exhilarating.
If you aren’t a style queen, this isn’t a good car. If you plan to just rice it out, get one.
I found it lacking in performance, and lacking in exhaust tone. I also was annoyed by how many people mistook is for a Supra, which made me feel like a “broke.” Poser.
This car is great tier quality for younger audience who dream of a 30k sports car, but truly not aimed at someone who makes 200k+ a year.
It lacks in Raw power, but it makes up in the department of easy slides for how light it is.
@@alvingeroy3242 I guess different strokes for different folks. I had a lease on an M340 that recently ended and didn’t get this but pretty much it’s competitor or what people look at (MX-5). Granted think I have diff/ unique situation. I had a 3 year lease on my M340 but this past year I received a new job where I was lucky enough to pick out a company SUV to have full time or else might have bought my M340 despite some of the issues I was having with it and felt like the dealership were just money makers which most dealers are especially in service issues. But in that case I just wanted a fun little weekend car. I test drove a new MX-5 manual and was instantly hooked. Yeah it’s a Mazda but once I got past that I didn’t care. It truly is a drivers car and so much fun to drive. No it’s not the fastest, def in a straight line haha but it’s fun around corners and through the mountains/ canyons. I laughed when I saw the HP but they weigh less than a scooter it feels like (never liked something less than 300 HP). I’m not the youngest out there but I’m 31 years old and do decent for myself but didn’t see the point of spending twice the money for a play car and I plan on modding this car quite well performance wise so it will be fun and not break the bank like any aftermarket BMW parts would but that’s just how it goes for higher end sports cars. Having a convertible is fun and I’m loving it. I did look at a Z4 but no manual and hard after getting the M experience even though it’s not the full M experience. I will say I would love to have an M2 one day or C43 AMG when that can be a weekend car really. But I think it’s just what a person needs to enjoy something.
Beautiful color grading, one of the best i have seen recently.
Cheers
I’m getting mine tomorrow. Super excited!
Just got mine last week 🙌
this video was so good it made me look up how to edit and color grade videos
I’ll be definitely trying this when I get my gr86 in February
Oh yes!
love this pov series! keep it up
Cheers and indeed I will.
I love the car but somehow it really bothers me that, when you up- or downshift, it doesn't register for 3 seconds on the digital screen🤣 Keep it up Luke
Haha yeah I thought exactly the same that day, maybe has a lazy fly wheel.
It won’t register until you’ve completely released the clutch
@@chachito2ill523 also the gear counter is actually based solely on rpm/speed/engine load not the actual gear you are in
Love driving mine on the snow!! So much fun
Yes! light and nimble with usable power.
@@carswithlukepov exactly! First manual car and man I was missing out!!
That sound . It reminds me when i was 23 and riding in this icy road.
I got mine (automatic) a couple of weeks ago. Got myself a set of winter wheels and I'm so excited to daily it.
Good choice!
@@carswithlukepov It turns out time flies faster than I thought, I tried to remember the exact date and it was A MONTH AGO
So is it difficult to drive the car in snow since it’s 2WD ?
@@rahulcharlie_1 so far no, it snowed heavily yesterday so the roads will be perfect to test the new tires.
@@dirtydanchicago not just the tires but could you also let me know how the car handles, drives etc? I’m looking to get a gr86 but I live in East Canada and it snows crazy here.
Damn I love this channel
It saddens me that, having had the brz/gt86 as my favourite cat since I was twelve, now that I can drive, I won't have the money to buy this improved gr86 as my first car before 2024😢
The old gen is still a great car, i have owned mine for soon 7 years.
@@slonkijippie hey man, that's so cool, honestly, good for you, and know that I envy you. I envy anyone who owns my favourite car😂
I felt the same way about the EK9 lmao
Got a GT86 now and I love it, you’ll be able to pick one up since they’re still depreciating
@@Flowermouth in what part of the world are they still depreciating?!? They've going for €19-25k for the past 5 years
Supply and demand will mean a queue for ownership.
Would love to see more lengthty POV drives, and especially in the snow!
i want that as my first car so badly xD
Absolute dream first car! I want one now.
Absolutely beautiful video, I've got 2 questions. First, what camera are you using for the POV shots? The quality is superb, and compared to my brand new hero gopro 10, it makes my gopro look like a cell phone. Second question is how are you mounting your A7SIII in the passenger seat? I'm fairly certain those shots coming from the passenger seat POV are with the A7SIII, and just wondering how exactly you're mounting it / setting it up to have it so sturdy in your passenger seat?
It's a secret 🤫
I have lot of expectations on this gr 86. Great video! Thank you Pov
If I would be a citizen of Switzerland, I’d be happy even on a simple MTB.
Like the good old days.
Ouch man I stored mine for the winter, and this makes me so eager to arrive in the spring
This seems so relaxing. One thing i do not understand though, how hot could it be inside the car so that you can drive in a short sleeved T-shirt :))
Well I can only speak for the older Scion FRS, which revs pretty high and generally makes a ton of heat! You probably could be quite comfortable in a t-shirt lol
日本車のエアコンは優秀です
Great camera work keep it up
Which winter tires do you use?
I really do wonder just....how? looking at you drive this car is just so much fun great video! but how does the car take these corners and not slip in the beginning? I have a Camry and I go wayyyy slower yet I find myself sliding all over the place! granted it might be the tires are loosing tread but....HOW??? again great video!
Good winter tires are game changer and this is a light car.
Nice POV! Next... Mazda MX-5 RF ?
Great drive! How challenging is this car to drive if one never has driven a rear wheel drive car with such a happy tail? I have seen reviews where it was recommended to do a driver safety training where you learn to drift and other reviews saying this car is not dangerous if you just drive normal and responsible. what is your recommendation? is this car still equally fun to drive if you dont push it to small drifts on each drive?
You’ll be A-OK. I had a ‘17 as my first RWD. On dry and wet pavement, the only way to spin out would be stabbing the throttle in first or second gear mid corner (which you wouldn’t do in FWD or AWD really, anyway). In snow, make sure you put on good winter tires. The back end will slide out on tight corners, but it’s very predictable with snow tires. Practice some countersteering and throttle inputs in a parking lot first snowfall and you’ll learn quickly. The key is not to be overconfident, but not to be fearful either. I would also never attempt to drive an 86 in snow or slush or low temps without quality winter tires.
I’ve since graduated to higher power RWD vehicles but am considering getting one of the new GR86s. They just look amazing and winter driving was a blast in the previous gen!
@@brettlarson912 Thx for your thoughts!
excellent camera view
i found this new channel right now at this moment... why i never heard from you?
Excellent control. Love it
can you do gr corolla next
Fun cars you can use all the power 😉👍💕
Exactly!
Yeah cause there is hardly any of it
@@MistaBrown420 Boo
is it not a dangerous car in Mountain for every drive in Winter ? I have a T-roc R (which is very safe) but thinking to switch to a GR86 for a better character car :)
Guauuuuu. What a car from Toyota and high level driving skills. Saludos desde España
Awesomeness 😁 Cape Town South Africa
Es el video más bonito de mi futuro coche que he visto, gracias
Will you make a full review/walk around of this car? Please do
I went to a dealership near me and they’re selling it for 41k for the base model, I just walked out
got mine for msrp but that was back in february 2022
More of this pls 😍😍😍
I live in Boston and winter hasn’t been as bad 5 years ago & I really would like to have one but I’m not sure if it’s dumb of me buying it or not 😢 any suggestions
You can turn off that shift beep btw if you don’t like it
One of the better looking Steering Wheels from Toyota :-)
Agreed!
Probably cause its built by Subaru 😅
@@Vali0406 not really 😂
@@bjornmuller7205 It is actually built by Subaru. Both the GR and the BRZ are both built in the Subaru Factory in Gunma. The Car is also developed pretty much completely by Subaru.
What camera do you use? I hate those low quality go pros everyone uses. I can tell this is good quality!
Hey mate, How would you compare this with the GR Yaris? And which would you choose? I can’t decide between the two. In Germany they are now both the same price haha
Hey Luke are you using a GoPro 11 here?
Hey. Great video. Which camera do you use?
geile 86! weisch du obs scho uspuffahlage mit schwiizer zuelassig git? Gruess us Züri
Milltek gibt es bereits. Mehrere werden Folgen denke ich👌🏼
Is it possible to change the digital tachometer for a traditional one such as the GT86 one?
PLEASE get Toyota/Subaru to release a Corrective Action on the RTV silicone clogging up the oil pickup tube strainer. There is way too much RTV silicone being applied from the factory and pieces are breaking off and clogging up the oil pickup tube strainer enough to damage engines. PLEASE get Toyota/Subaru corporate to fix this issue and use simple gaskets!!
she's on winter tires i assume. does it feel safe with rear wheel drive?
Sure is and felt amazing, flew over the snow.
Did you put winter tires?
Where what and how do you mount your camera at this POV?
Aus der Schweiz auch noch! :) schöner wagen , nächstes jahr kommt meiner
Hey man, where was the microphone placed to get an engine sound this clear?
Engine noise is fake piped into the cabin that's what you're hearing. I hate it! Had mine disconnected.
It's on the right hand window
@@ddk_ut Yes I would do the same if I owned one.
@@ddk_ut How did yo disconnect it?
@@pargolf3158 You can have the dealer do it with programming or follow the instructions at the end of this video. There are other interesting to dos in this video as well.
th-cam.com/video/0xKPuP4Xr_Y/w-d-xo.html
How does it drive in the snow specifically
What camera is used for the POV shots?
Have you considered turning off the fake engine sound?
I was told you can only do that with software.
@@carswithlukepov You can remove the fuse that controls it.
what is the arrival location?
Main channel video with this one please! Would love to hear you comment on it!
working on it
This wont cut it! Switch to Custom Exhaust! 👍
Do you have a stock exhaust?
It's beautiful
What exhaust is this?
Winter tires?
Potential buyers beware: this is fake sound from the speakers and rev hang is more than obvious. Just drove one last week and those are the only two big negatives for this car. General experience for a "driver's car" that can be bought in 2022/2023 is more than good. My personal opinion is - get an used sport car from early 2000s and get it sorted out for a grand total of price of the GR86. If it must be a new car, then there is no other option, which can be usable also for a 2 person vacation longer than just a weekend (looking at you, Miata/MX-5).
Yeah but you can buy a new car on finance, it has a warranty and it’s not worn out. Enjoy tipping lotsa of dollars into an old car then modifying it and having an accident and getting the insurance denied too.
that sound that the car makes when you get up in the RPMs, what does it mean? is it to not redline or for fuel economy?
Suggesting a gear change
the waittime from actually shifting and the tach changeing and theres no reason it should be so long
Yes it's annoying, ,maybe the flywheel is to heavy but not sure.
So driving in Michigan…. I should be fine right lol
We need more outside views that would have make it better
isnt this a subaru?
nice car but bad winter
becareful when u driving speed man
nice, kinda visible that you are used to high powered cars :)
Tires sir?
3:12 why did i scream? 😂
The slow framerate goes well with the car.
What. a. fucking. car.
I need one so bad. Hope I'll get lucky this year, cuz last years model is nowhere to be found (new).
/8.2????
It’s the exhaust stock?
Of course.
@@carswithlukepov sounds great. I think opf ?
Coole Gegend.
Wäre sicher auch was für meinen GT86 ;-)
Something is off. Is it a low bit rate or low fps? Maybe a little bit of both. Stupid YT with their compression.
No it's just real 25fps, maybe you normally watch 60fps which is of course wrong but nothing is off.
And who said you cannot drive GR86 in the winter, those people are schmucks!
Haha yeah the car works amazing in the winter, light and loads of control!
とてもかっこいいです！
Wow, I was wondering where have you been on your other channel. These videos are awesome. Only thing is I think the camera should be mounted a bit higher. Check out Tedward channel, his POV videos have the perfect camera height, AFAIK he just clips gopro onto a baseball cap.
Nope I prefer this angle but thanks :)
@@carswithlukepov Yeah I prefer this angle too, more realistic to what we see when we drive the car
nächst mal vielicht es anders nummereschild oder verpixle will du weisch ja klische argau
Forza horizon is real? :o
It has alot of rev hang for a sports car
Yeah that was one thing I didn't like.
That was def driver’s fault not the cars. There is zero rev hang in BRZs/86s. Driver was extremely slow with his clutch releases. I counted almost a full second between his throttle blips and actual clutch engagement.
Nah. As a GR86 owner it does have rev hang. Look it up. Hopefully a tune someday will fix it
В один день... Она точно, будет моей...
Dream car... But here in France the ecologic taxe kills it... You have to add 17k€ to the price to pay this sh**...
lass ma toyota gr86 treffen machen in der schweiz
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unreal engine 5?
Engine sounds pretty grim.
I think it sounds good, I don't know what one could really ask for in that price range anyway, can't have everything for that money.
@@carswithlukepov No question if I was buying new at this price point, this would be the car. I haven't driven a GR, but in this video it sounds a lot like the GT86, which I have driven and sounds like crap to my ears. In the end, I just wouldn't buy new at this price point. £30k gives you a lot of lovely used options. Call it £25k to have £5k in back pocket for faults and you can still buy, say, a 987.2 3.4 Cayman. The GR will be better in a few specific areas, but not much of a contest overall.
@@flat6croc I think it has potential to sound good with the boxster engine but yes right now it's really muffled. Sure you could also by an old cayman for that money but you won't have things like 10 years warranty like this has. Would be a tough call what to buy though.
@@carswithlukepov you mind me asking if you’re using the stock Michelin sport all season tires or did you put on winter tires
@@flat6croc Here we go again with this 'lOoK aT wHaT uSED cAr yOU cAn BUy At tHE sAme pRice' crap. Compare the maintenance costs of the Porsche (especially with its IMS bearing issues on 987.1) to the Toyota, then talk kid. GR86 is lighter, with a smaller displacement engine and uses narrower tyres so consumable costs for the Cayman will add up to be a lot more expensive over the years of ownership.
2:32 hearing the same shifter rattle defect that my 2021 has (that was supposed to be fixed around 2014) makes me laugh. Never change Toyota, delivering truly fantastic piles of shit.
What tires are you running?
Stock exhaust?
Stock Exhaust?