It’s very crazy to see the same horn I play being reviewed by one of my favorite TH-camrs. Love the review. Love the horn and that low register is great on the horn. Will definitely agree it’s forte is the big sound and that can sometimes make it lose the bach sound. Overall love the horn though !
Glad you enjoyed! The Bach sound is definitely in the horn's default state, but I find it easier than the 37 to push out of that ballpark. In some instances that's better, and in some instances I'd really prefer the straitjacketed feel of the 37 haha! I will say I kind of like having the Yamaha 8310 and Bach 37 just for the sake of having two extremes of the tonal field, but the 43 does combine them pretty nicely into one package!
Heard of them, but absolutely never seen one or heard it being played, save for in Doc's hands. Very strange that it was considered as such at any point considering how few people talk about it now. Getzens are alright, and they're famed for exceptional valve action, but playing wise I've never found them to be exceptional.
Thanks! To be honest, even though the Yamaha has a nice sound, I find it quite hard to play in the lower register. It's unfortunate, but for someone like me who already struggles like mad with the low notes I can't really play equipment that makes it any harder for me. These days I mostly play on a Strad 37 I'm borrowing.
That’s what I love about my Yamaha 8310Z, but I prefer the Bach 37 over the 43 in most cases. If I want “the Bach sound,” the 37 is helpful in attaining it.
What mouthpiece do you use on your Yamaha? I have a 6310Z but am not happy with the Schilke 14 as the sound is very bright and not great for jazz or lyrical type playing.
My main mouthpiece is a Bach 1-1/2A (approximately a Schilke 16E or 17E) and most of the mouthpieces I use are between a 15 and 20 inner diameter on the Schilke scale. For most players, an E cup is a little excessive. A 15D would be a nice size for lyrical work.
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Sam, I've taught and played brass for well over 30 years but I always learn something new from your videos. Thank you for making them!
So glad to hear it, Paul! Your support means a ton, especially considering how long you've been at it!
The double Ab was literally perfect
That horn means business! Haven’t been able to lock it in on either my Yamaha or a Bach 37.
Fun review clean cut Sam.
Thanks Rob!
Watched and listened to this twice and enjoyed it. Sounds nice Sam :)
So glad you liked it!
Bach 37, the classical standard: th-cam.com/video/8FUasJ8RIvQ/w-d-xo.html
Another (very RARE!) Bach 43: th-cam.com/video/Yu-A8U0CKqA/w-d-xo.html
Mt Vernon or NY?
@@thebrasspedagogue still made in Elkhart, but quite unique! It’s a model 195.
@@thebrasspedagogue Mt Vernon
It’s very crazy to see the same horn I play being reviewed by one of my favorite TH-camrs. Love the review. Love the horn and that low register is great on the horn. Will definitely agree it’s forte is the big sound and that can sometimes make it lose the bach sound. Overall love the horn though !
Glad you enjoyed! The Bach sound is definitely in the horn's default state, but I find it easier than the 37 to push out of that ballpark. In some instances that's better, and in some instances I'd really prefer the straitjacketed feel of the 37 haha! I will say I kind of like having the Yamaha 8310 and Bach 37 just for the sake of having two extremes of the tonal field, but the 43 does combine them pretty nicely into one package!
Amazing test on a beautiful horn!
Glad you enjoyed!
Have you reviewed the Getzen Severinsen? When I was in school, that was the 'holy grail' of trumpets, and everyone seemed to want one.
Heard of them, but absolutely never seen one or heard it being played, save for in Doc's hands. Very strange that it was considered as such at any point considering how few people talk about it now. Getzens are alright, and they're famed for exceptional valve action, but playing wise I've never found them to be exceptional.
Sounds beautiful
Thanks!
Sounds great man! I definitely like you more on the Yamaha. Keen for the next review
Thanks! To be honest, even though the Yamaha has a nice sound, I find it quite hard to play in the lower register. It's unfortunate, but for someone like me who already struggles like mad with the low notes I can't really play equipment that makes it any harder for me. These days I mostly play on a Strad 37 I'm borrowing.
I chose a 180S43 because it was slightly more open than a 37 (which I tend to back up on). Also the core and colors I could get.
That’s what I love about my Yamaha 8310Z, but I prefer the Bach 37 over the 43 in most cases. If I want “the Bach sound,” the 37 is helpful in attaining it.
What mouthpiece do you use on your Yamaha? I have a 6310Z but am not happy with the Schilke 14 as the sound is very bright and not great for jazz or lyrical type playing.
My main mouthpiece is a Bach 1-1/2A (approximately a Schilke 16E or 17E) and most of the mouthpieces I use are between a 15 and 20 inner diameter on the Schilke scale. For most players, an E cup is a little excessive. A 15D would be a nice size for lyrical work.
Own a 50 Aniversary Strad. 190 37. It’s built old school 65 Era. Plays like my old Mt Vernon
I think many of the anniversary models are a sort of harkening back to the Mt. Vernon models. Some of the most sought after Bachs on the market.
Is this horn more open than a 190 37?
I've never tried a model 190, unfortunately. I've wanted to for years.
What's the sticker price on that?
These tend to go for $2000-2400 lightly used.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass that's actually a good chunk less than I thought it would go for