I truly hope you get the opportunity to hear the recording made by the Berlin Philharmonic when Gerd Seifert was lead. Ridiculous. Preposterous. Obscene. Frikkin' unbelievable. Gerd Seifert... yeah. I do so hope you ever hear that recording.
I was so puzzled since the small score does not go to high E in the video, but on the actual manuscript it does, with all it's 3 ledger line glory! Then there is a small emendation bringing it down an octave in pencil.
Robert Schumann:Versenymű négy kürtre és zenekarra Op.86 1.Vivace 00:00 2.Romanza:Andante con moto,ma non troppo 07:03 3.Molto vivace 12:01 Forradalom és Romantika Zenekara Vezényel:Sir John Eliot Gardiner
actually, take that 5 second part, layer it a bunch of times on top of itself repeatedly, then you get Poledo. Then add some screaming and set it into mono, and then you got the buzzing evil choir sound.
Who said it was being played on period instruments? If so, that’s incredible! However, Schumann wrote the piece specifically to celebrate the advent of the valved horn. It would actually not be historically correct to attempt this with hand stopping alone (I think…).
@@clintow Single F horns: the rich, glorious sound!!! Why not? Your chops determine the pitch - and a longer tube length acually creates more natural resistance, making high notes easier (more 'slippery', but yeah - your CHOPS determine the pitch, so get some chops, eh?)
@@cmw12 this is The Sir Elliot Gardiner recording with the Revolutionary and Romantic Orchestra who all pkay on period instruments. Their recording of all 4 Schumann and Berthoven symphonies are superb
@@lau4871 wow how did you know about that piece??? I immediately listened to it and its so beautiful. But your little comment belittling it pisses me off. "Not as beautiful" my butt, it's amazing. Both are really good, though Schumann's repeats similar themes a lot to (still great melodies), while Hublers is so many unique themes... it sounds amazing. Don't underrate either, they're all amazing.
Roger Montgomery (1st hn) Gavin Edwards (2nd hn) Susan Dent (3rd hn) Robert Maskell (4th hn) Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique John Eliot Gardiner 1998
@@calebhu6383 Conductors don't specialise in anything, apart from taking the credit for real musicians' hard graft. Stick wavers are a waste of 10s of thousands of £s a concert, conmen and vagabonds the lot!
It is absolutely fascinating that Schumann had written that score for natural horns. How it is possible to play the two extreme movements? Even with valve horns, it is somehow challenging.
Schumann hadn’t written that score for natural horns!! He had written it for Valve horns in F...! Please stop spreading false informations without knowing...
I believe that the first performance had two natural horns on the 1st two parts because of the range. It was difficult to play on the heavy valved horns so they played it on natural horns
Take that up with the copyright holder. They are the ones who have TH-cam insert commercials. Just get an TH-cam Add-Blocker and they won't bother you any longer.
Tiefe Verbeugung vor der künstlerischen Leistung, mir persönlich an manchen Stellen zu viel des Guten, was die Lautstärke vor allem des Orchesters betrifft.
Has to be one of the hardest horn pieces of the 19th century
@@fardpig4269 Anything for horn is hard
@@fardpig4269 Consistently being in tune is difficult
@@fardpig4269 Tell that to the horn players in my orchestra lmao.
@@calebhu6383 I disagree. Consistently being OUT OF TUNE is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.
6:29 that high E wow!
Thats BEYOND what the score asks for!
@@joshscores3360 I've seen the score and it DOES go up to that E.
I truly hope you get the opportunity to hear the recording made by the Berlin Philharmonic when Gerd Seifert was lead.
Ridiculous. Preposterous. Obscene. Frikkin' unbelievable.
Gerd Seifert... yeah.
I do so hope you ever hear that recording.
@@joshscores3360 Yeah. You are supposed to play that high E. Of course. It's how the work is performed.
I was so puzzled since the small score does not go to high E in the video, but on the actual manuscript it does, with all it's 3 ledger line glory! Then there is a small emendation bringing it down an octave in pencil.
Played Horn 1 on the first movement of this as part of my last recital with my HS studio. Super fun piece!
What does high school studio even mean
@@rilke1791 What's it all about, Alfie?
LOL!!!
Yes, indeed. Seriously FUN!!! (and get frikkin' down!!!)
Man what high school did you go to that insane!
Robert Schumann:Versenymű négy kürtre és zenekarra Op.86
1.Vivace 00:00
2.Romanza:Andante con moto,ma non troppo 07:03
3.Molto vivace 12:01
Forradalom és Romantika Zenekara
Vezényel:Sir John Eliot Gardiner
Such a great piece! Nice to see the score with the audio.
Bravo brilliance music konzertstuck
this SLAPS.
Bellissimo!
This piece is too epic.
15:07 holy damn
Liri Ronen talking about the high note? Lol
High E to be exact
8:56 For earthbound buzzing sample
actually, take that 5 second part, layer it a bunch of times on top of itself repeatedly, then you get Poledo. Then add some screaming and set it into mono, and then you got the buzzing evil choir sound.
BIG BRAVO!
I've played lead on this. Yes. Playable, but you better have your chops in order! LOL!!!!!
On period instruments! As if the piece wasn't difficult enough!
This difficulty is "Over 9000"!
Who said it was being played on period instruments? If so, that’s incredible! However, Schumann wrote the piece specifically to celebrate the advent of the valved horn. It would actually not be historically correct to attempt this with hand stopping alone (I think…).
@@cmw12 This recording was done with period appropriate single f valve horns. Pretty ballsy!
@@clintow Single F horns: the rich, glorious sound!!! Why not? Your chops determine the pitch - and a longer tube length acually creates more natural resistance, making high notes easier (more 'slippery', but yeah - your CHOPS determine the pitch, so get some chops, eh?)
@@cmw12 this is The Sir Elliot Gardiner recording with the Revolutionary and Romantic Orchestra who all pkay on period instruments. Their recording of all 4 Schumann and Berthoven symphonies are superb
HHAHA i was sleepy then at the first beat of the sound i got goosebumps bruh ..
Unique is an overused term to be sure but is there another work like Schumann's Konzertstuck for 4 Horns?
Hubler concerto for four horns. Not as beautiful as schumann but still nice
@@lau4871 wow how did you know about that piece??? I immediately listened to it and its so beautiful. But your little comment belittling it pisses me off. "Not as beautiful" my butt, it's amazing. Both are really good, though Schumann's repeats similar themes a lot to (still great melodies), while Hublers is so many unique themes... it sounds amazing. Don't underrate either, they're all amazing.
@@Berny27 chill, it was a joke. Schumann's Konzertstuck is a much more complete piece, you can't compare it with Hubler
i guess it's kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good place to watch new tv shows online?
@Dariel Thaddeus I dunno I watch on Flixportal. You can find it if you google:P -felipe
This recording was played by Schumann period instruments: valve horns in F
Good work youtube put an advert bang in the middle!! Philistines and nihilists at heart wait til the fxxking end at least.
i get the condensed score??????? Thank you! and of course my favorite part at 16:50! to me this section is the ultimate expression of romanticism!
damn good, Who is playing this?
Roger Montgomery (1st hn)
Gavin Edwards (2nd hn)
Susan Dent (3rd hn)
Robert Maskell (4th hn)
Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique
John Eliot Gardiner
1998
@@zmoxon22 Gardiner is known for Bach but he's also a real Schumann specialist
@@zmoxon22 And they kicked its frikkin' ass.
@@calebhu6383 Conductors don't specialise in anything, apart from taking the credit for real musicians' hard graft. Stick wavers are a waste of 10s of thousands of £s a concert, conmen and vagabonds the lot!
슈만_ 4개의 호른과 피아노를 위한 협주곡 Op 86 (HN 1138)
슈만의 전형적인 음악어법이 잘 드러난다.
It is absolutely fascinating that Schumann had written that score for natural horns. How it is possible to play the two extreme movements? Even with valve horns, it is somehow challenging.
Somehow challenging? Ok... I mean I'm not professional yet but I guess "somehow challenging" is a little understated. :D
yOu are right. I wansted to stay moderate in my wordings.
Schumann hadn’t written that score for natural horns!! He had written it for Valve horns in F...! Please stop spreading false informations without knowing...
I read in a serious musicological book that it was written for natural horns.
I believe that the first performance had two natural horns on the 1st two parts because of the range. It was difficult to play on the heavy valved horns so they played it on natural horns
Love the music. Hate th mf ads.
So you actually interrupt Schumann for commercials?!
Take that up with the copyright holder. They are the ones who have TH-cam insert commercials.
Just get an TH-cam Add-Blocker and they won't bother you any longer.
@@Quotenwagnerianer who is holding a copyright to Schumann? Or is it the record company? It is terrible.
@@danyelnicholas Of course it is the record company. Copyright applies to ALL recordings until they are over 70 years old.
Tiefe Verbeugung vor der künstlerischen Leistung, mir persönlich an manchen Stellen zu viel des Guten, was die Lautstärke vor allem des Orchesters betrifft.
I listened to Schumann rarely (perhaps because he had a rather ugly wife, as far as I remember), but the guy sounds quite ok.
Greatest comment ever
@@bernabefernandeztouceda7188 Thanks
That was his sister
@@michaelarnold417 Anyway, bad associations
@@ivanboskovic1260 But some great sounds!
We played this in college. The horn professor and 3 of his students in a band transcription. The entire piece and the other parts are not easy either.