I find it kinda funny that this trombonist is relatively unknown and has notably done this one recording, but since he seems to be the only one that has ever recorded the concertos by Gräfe and Reiche, it still stands out. Not sure I know another recording of Sachse either, besides some amateur recording we did at a concert, when my local orchestra performed this back in the 90s.
This recording is from 1992 "Staatskapelle Berlin" with trombone soloist Jürgen Heinel.. All 4 german trombone concertos wich are Standard repartoire Arena on it... David, Sachse, Gräfe und Reiche..
@@SisselOnline it was probably written the way it is on paper because the high Eb is considered "out of range" for a piece like this. Similar to the lyrical section in the 3rd movement of the David which most professionals take up an octave
I find it intesting that 'someone' at 'some point' who had the 'paper' score before it was scanned for this seemed to think the whole of the 3/4 adagio was in a completely different key.... you can see the rubbed out A flat in the key for the whole Adagio..... That said, there is no reason for the repeat of key signature before the new 3/4 time signature unless it HAD changed.... my ears are not 'perfect' so cannot tell if the key indeed changed from Bflat to Eflat but the fact they were rubbed out means either they were very polite with score etiquette and erased the markings before returning (even if it was to correct a printing error) or they were just wrong as deemed by someone else!
The a-flat is not rubbed out but added with a pencil (but only very lightly -- and thus barely visible in the scan) because it's missing in the original print. The adagio indeed changes from B-Flat to E-Flat. You can also see that in the accompanying piano score (available for download for instance from IMSLP). Funny enough, even though the key changes in the piano score, they also forgot to print the a-flat in the trombone score which is printed above the piano scores.
I find 'level' to be arbitrary and people can miss out on a ton of fun by 'sticking to their lane' (ie passed grade X so only really learns grade X - and next grade up - music). I would say anyone passing grade 6 or up would be able play it. But grades should only be a rough guide when picking music to learn. You'll know by looking at it if it's within your current reach. I never did grade 8 just cause I wanted to learn some different music that was more interesting to me, but not part of any grade 8 syllabus (in reality based on how hard it was in the end was probably more in the 'diploma' range - ie post grade 8). Grades are a good way to show 'progress' and give structure to learning, but ultimately it's more fun to learn pieces you want to play and not what someone else has dictated to you.... For reference the stuff I decided to learn instead of pursuing Grade 8 was Blazehevich Concerto 1 (seems to be really obscure and no professional recordings, md only 1 decent performance on youtube) and Rachmaninoff Vocalise (basically a cello transcription).
I find it kinda funny that this trombonist is relatively unknown and has notably done this one recording, but since he seems to be the only one that has ever recorded the concertos by Gräfe and Reiche, it still stands out. Not sure I know another recording of Sachse either, besides some amateur recording we did at a concert, when my local orchestra performed this back in the 90s.
So true....Sachse's Concertino doesn't have much recording. I don't know much abt the performer though...
@@SisselOnline. Have you heard the Armin Rosin recording?
@@LyleFrancisDelp weird, I can't receive this notification from YT Studio...
@@LyleFrancisDelp nah...
This recording is from 1992 "Staatskapelle Berlin" with trombone soloist Jürgen Heinel..
All 4 german trombone concertos wich are Standard repartoire Arena on it...
David, Sachse, Gräfe und Reiche..
At 3:40 the ascending Bb arpeggio is inverted in the notation just before the 11 measure rest
Yes the performer made an artistic decision but that doesn't change the original score
I really loved playing Sachse for competitions. Such a great artist doing so great works for trombonists.
You guys have any recommend what excerpts to use for like a 1:30 solo for an audition?
Idk
2:39-3:43, it’s nice and technical but has a lot of diversity in dynamics and articulation
Gosto muito deste concerto. Quando estudava Tuba tocava o uma oitava abaixo 😊
Ooooo so it still works with tuba xD
Would love to hear more concertos in this short form
Wwwww
It's a concertino anyways.
3:42 is the music labeled wrong or did the player play something different? Odd that it didn't match up
The player intentionally change the arpeggios so that it matches with the others before that. also to push the vibe up, I think.
@@SisselOnline it was probably written the way it is on paper because the high Eb is considered "out of range" for a piece like this. Similar to the lyrical section in the 3rd movement of the David which most professionals take up an octave
@@Gamecrazy721 I’m pretty sure he just reversed the arpeggio. I don’t hear any Eb’s there
I've also noticed MULTIPLE other soloists do the same thing! Interesting indeed.
Este es uno de mis conciertos favoritos y alguna vez tuve el chance de tocarlo en un recital ❤️
Wwwww
Magnificent.
Brilliant tone
Великолепное исполнение замечательного классического произведения! Это настоящее искусство!
who plays the trombone?
Jurgen Heinel, should be
@@SisselOnline. Sounds similar to Armin Rosin, from an old LP I brought while in college back in the early 80s.
0:30 - A
4:21 - B
6:55 - C
fantastic
Favorite is 5:39
正！ 唔該曬😊❤
Wwww 唔使客氣 XD
Bom dia professor como fazer para pegar referência das lições do método arban fundamental para estudar trambone tenor obrigado
Lol idk, I'm not a trombonist
meraviglioso
how can easy to play high note 😭who can teach me
I find it intesting that 'someone' at 'some point' who had the 'paper' score before it was scanned for this seemed to think the whole of the 3/4 adagio was in a completely different key.... you can see the rubbed out A flat in the key for the whole Adagio.....
That said, there is no reason for the repeat of key signature before the new 3/4 time signature unless it HAD changed.... my ears are not 'perfect' so cannot tell if the key indeed changed from Bflat to Eflat but the fact they were rubbed out means either they were very polite with score etiquette and erased the markings before returning (even if it was to correct a printing error) or they were just wrong as deemed by someone else!
Not sure as well xD (also, nice name)
The a-flat is not rubbed out but added with a pencil (but only very lightly -- and thus barely visible in the scan) because it's missing in the original print. The adagio indeed changes from B-Flat to E-Flat. You can also see that in the accompanying piano score (available for download for instance from IMSLP). Funny enough, even though the key changes in the piano score, they also forgot to print the a-flat in the trombone score which is printed above the piano scores.
9:40
Gostei
hello where can I find this concert in pdf?
IMSLP！
I play this piece with my trombone
This year
Omg its Ernst
Lolol 😂
Who’s play
Jürgen Heinel (Trombone), Staatskapelle Berlin (orchestra), Heinz Fricke (conductor)
What level is this piece?
Not sure, I'm not a trombonist lol
I think 6 but im not sure
I find 'level' to be arbitrary and people can miss out on a ton of fun by 'sticking to their lane' (ie passed grade X so only really learns grade X - and next grade up - music).
I would say anyone passing grade 6 or up would be able play it.
But grades should only be a rough guide when picking music to learn. You'll know by looking at it if it's within your current reach.
I never did grade 8 just cause I wanted to learn some different music that was more interesting to me, but not part of any grade 8 syllabus (in reality based on how hard it was in the end was probably more in the 'diploma' range - ie post grade 8).
Grades are a good way to show 'progress' and give structure to learning, but ultimately it's more fun to learn pieces you want to play and not what someone else has dictated to you....
For reference the stuff I decided to learn instead of pursuing Grade 8 was Blazehevich Concerto 1 (seems to be really obscure and no professional recordings, md only 1 decent performance on youtube) and Rachmaninoff Vocalise (basically a cello transcription).
It’s probably high grade 5 or low 6, similar to Morceau Symphonique.
Edit: depends on your skillset ofc
Brovo!
4:07 6:57 8:22 9:58
譜面と演奏が違う箇所が幾つかある。演奏自体は上手い😅
There are some reasonable improvisations lol
Шарман
Owo?