"If you wanna be one of the non-conformists, all you have to do is dress just like us and listen to the same music we do." - Michael (The Goth from South Park)
I find it crazy how we live in a society where we are told not to conform to the “normal” and then when you do something that’s not “normal” you get called weird for it
I have been apart of the goth subculture for about 7 years and have just now realized that to some extent, we do conform to the origins of the subculture in regards to wearing black and listening to goth music, however, I think outsiders don't realize that there are a lot of different styles to the culture as well. Such as victorian, vampire, romantic, pastel, trad, and many others. LOVED THE VIDEO THOUGH!!! :)
Yes somewhat true but there is a new group of people now who hate metal. Woke SJWs, liberal scum, they are like conservative Christians and catholic school teachers.
When I first got into metal I never thought of going against the system or what everyone else liked. I genuinely like metal and wearing band t shirts. If you really like something show it off, not everyone else has to like it.
@@EuanWhitehead Man I've been trying to get a Panzer Division t shirt for a while now. Seems pretty hard to come by. I'll get one at some stage hopefully tho.
To me, wearing band shirts/the typical metal style is about showing where I belong, what I like and finding other people who like the same music. It's not about showing the world that I'm "different", it's about finding people who are like me. I don't care what the rest thinks. (Well, and also I want to support the bands I like). Pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks like that. Also: nice video, as always!
In my experience, the reason I got into metal was because I was exposed to it early in my life and the people that liked pop and rap music shunned me as a kid even when I liked that stuff. I'm not just 'tryna be edgy' or whatever that stupid shallow statement means. Being different out of passion is not inherently bad, case closed.
Great subject, but there are a couple of key things missing. One of them is time. Back in the 2000s and before, the "norm" wasn't as tolerant as it is today. Now, there are makeup products at Sephora called "Heavy Metal" and "Slayer". H&M sells edgy jackets, and many other examples can be listed. Therefore, nowadays it is difficult for fashion to reflect anti-conformity because there has been a blend during the past decade between the mainstream and the underground, hence the idiocy of people wearing t-shirts of bands they don't know. Also, a lot of gamers wear video-game shirts, so many people confuse band shirts for video-game ones. Secondly, I don't remember if this was on your video or someone else's whom I commented, before we say "average" metalhead, punk, goth, or so on, we should say "visible" instead of assuming that all of them look a certain way. That's because the base of these subcultures is their individual genre. Some people are non-visible punks/goths/metalheads/industrialists, meaning that they listen to their core genre that they love the most, but they won't dress the stereotypical part. "Incognito" is a term you'll hear sometimes for people like that, and I almost always see them at concerts. They may look like a normie, but their taste in music may not be the most conforming while they are amongst their peers. 😉 When I'm out in nu/trad-goth attire, including full makeup, I do get people staring, but they're usually people from second and third world countries, as well as children. They don't do harm, so I just look away. When I used to dress like a metalhead (picture yourself but without the bracers), some people looked at my t-shirts, but not many. And, when I wore my leather jacket on top, some people thought I was a biker (and that's where metal took the idea from, anyway).
Great topic BMW. I have noticed over the years, that certain sub genres of metal attract different political types. I find that OSDM , Thrash and Nu metal generally attract those on the right side of the political spectrum. While those who listen to BDM, BM, SLAM and any of the grind sub genres are generally lefties. If metal was a political movement and not a social one. I believe it would be "post apocalyptic tribalism" .
Wearing band shirts, bullet belts, and battle jackets is just us express ourselves. It's also a form of camaraderie, it allows us to identify like minded metalheads that we can share our love for metal with.
We all have different ways of having fun with Metal music, but of course, i don't just force it down someone's throat like the elitist that "knows it all, and are better than others". They of course can decide for themselves once i show my personal taste that is opposed to theirs, and as much as i hate elitism, but you've got to admit, everybody goes through it when they find a new band they have fallen in love with! Lol. Of what i'm saying, it might not be related to the topic of this video, but surely some or most will know what i mean! Anyways, good video, Dude! \m/
When you mentioned the amon amarth concert came to my mind that time when I was attending one of their show with a bunch of friends and a random dude started an argument because a friend of mine was wearing a Bring me the horizon hoodie So even in theoretically friendly environment as a concert of a band we all like, uncomfortable situations like that can happen
I really dont consider myself a conformist or non-conformist; I just do what works for me. Sometimes, however, there can be a strange sense of satisfaction in being defiant.
Speaking about musical conformity. Nobody even knows that I love metal unless they specifically ask. Though people very rarely ask. I think only one time in my life somebody asked what I'm listening to when they saw me with my headphones. Nobody even considers that someone might have different taste of music; people assume it's the same usual stuff we hear on radios and in media. I laugh when I see comments in Facebook saying "please, share a good song list" or "share your spotify list, people". Not even in specific musical group, just our city or other FB groups. As if everybody just has same taste of music.
The problem with the South Park quote is that it doesn't recognize that you can be both at the same time. So you can conform to your chosen group while still being anti to society at large.
I guess I'm just naturally a non-conformist. My friends all used to call me the time traveler. I guess they just got used to it over time and stopped calling me that. I guess it adds something to do with coming into school one day wearing a Tandy a.m. headphone radio with protruding knobs on the one side for off on volume and station selection.
It's funny I was talking about this with my wife the other day. I agree metal can have a uniform of sorts I have two sections of my closet work and home. Home is all band t-shirts cammo pants and shorts. Been that was for years. I have some skull jewelry and I am working on a battle vest.
What someone usually means when they say "They're a non-conformist" is: "They don't look and ACT like us, so they aren't ONE of us." Conformity itself is a concept of those in power, or who imagine such, as a means of determining/segregating those who are part of their clique and those who are unworthy. It is the opposite of inclusiveness.
It is odd. In the 80s I was into DRI, Suicidal Tendencies, Dead Kennedys, Crumbsuckers and I got a lot less abuse than my friends who were into Savatage, Iron Maiden, etc. This could be due to the crossover fashion being a little more accessible to the 'in crowd', despite the music being arguably more extreme
I remember being a teenager (14-15) and people trying to "analyze" me saying that I was a metalhead and dressed the way I did because I was trying to be different and "rebel"... I don't know how many times I've heard "she'll grow out of it". Well, here I am, 35 years old and a mom and I still am and look the exact same. I don't think you can "grow out" of being yourself.
I think the thing is that true non conformists don't even label themselves non conformists or rebels. They just do what they want for no other reason than that's what they believe in, regardless of how society will view it . As soon as bands such as Beatles , Queen and Black Sabbath started experimenting with and creating their own style of music, they were automatically considered non conformists since they had dared to do what no other group done before at the time. But now fast forward several decades later and now the chances that most people in mainstream society have heard those artists.
I'm pretty sure if a Slayer fan sees you wearing a Slayer shirt, they'll say something to you, but it'll be more along the lines of "SLAYERRRRRRRRRRRR" which is fine
In my opinion, the fans of Metal music are wearing the Metal outfits only because they like it and they don't feel that they have something to prove. Those who wear Metal outfits to look different they just look ridiculous.
I don’t that metalheads are non conformists. What I do think is that they aren’t afraid of going against the grain. So they aren’t non conformists or conformists. They are free thinkers who aren’t afraid to take the less traveled path if they prefer it, but they won’t take the less traveled path simply because it is less traveled.
I think it depends on the person, for example there are some metalheads who are christians and christianity is very conformed. But for the most part metalheads would naturally just give the middle finger to anyone of authority.
@@HeathenwoodOfficial Depends on the subgenre I guess. In Thrash/Death Metal it's mostly basic streetwear. Shirts, Jeans, maybe Sneakers/Converse. Sure, the shirts display our favourite artists and accessories are an option but let's be honest, we're not the most fancy or fashionable bunch.
As if trying to be different was wrong though. But I do agree, most don't care if it is or it isn't "conformist", if anything, at least most metalheads don't conform to mainstream society (not necessarily at least) so I still think that's good. Of course, cults exist, so it doesn't mean I agree with this in all contexts.
I've never considered myself anti conformist but I have and still do, for the most part deliberately avoid "mainstream" and blockbuster-esq media, games and art. The part I find odd is, it's not a big 'F-you I'm not going to check that out', it's more of a 'meh sounds lame maybe some other time' kinda thing. It's a strange behavior of mine I became aware of years ago. In some ways it's fun and rewarding looking into the dark unfettered corners of humanity, but in time I find myself landing on those titles once recommended. Dig the conversation starter, keep it up.
i feel like it’d probably depend on how try-hard the individual in question would be. i feel like the less experience (for lack of a better word) in the metal community they have, for example i know when i was getting into it i was definitely trying to conform to what other metalheads were doing. however, at this point it’s not as big of a deal to me and i don’t feel like anti conformity is what i’m striving for in life, although i definitely think nonconformity is a good thing.
Are metalheads anti-conformists?" It really just depends on the person. There are a lot of metalheads out there (and a lot of people in general). Conformity is defined as "compliance with standards, rules, or laws". Technically, following this definition, everyone is a conformist in some way. Even the people that say "screw the rules, blah blah blah" are still technically conforming to something. Again, this is all going by the "official definition" of the term "conformity". I'm being very legalistic here tbh.😆
For me I just like what I like and I'm passionate so I want to wear shirts and such related to the things I'm passionate about.. 🤷♂️ Because you know, shirts with no images on it are boring. And black clothes just make me feel comfortable, colorful stuff just doesn't feel right for me, makes me feel a little more insecure.
Personally, I have ever lived in more liberal part of Germany, so there is no issue, beeing different. My intention of wearing Bandshirts, black jeans and having long hair is 1) about solidarity towards my beloved bands and music genre 2) about my personal aesthetics in regards to colour, design,... 3) not beeing mentally enslaved by the generic mainstream community.
Metalheads being metalheads. You do have a point, there some people that'll judge somebody for wearing anything that they themselves would or would not wear (that's my opinion). I just see it as someone just wearing favorite band shirt.
I have spiky hair, I wear mostly black t-shirts, I have a battle vest to show my passion for the music I like (metal and punk), and nobody gives me shit for it. At best, it's compliments like "Sick hair, bro." At worst, it's creepy stares from older people with no social skills.
Politically yes we can be but not so much when it comes to fashion and music thats just how culture works a lot of people tend to like and do some of the same things when theyre apart of a culture.
I've always just liked what I liked. As a kid I didn't fit in because I just liked what I liked. Where as my peers only did what was popular out of their fear of being ostracized. I typically dress down, black jeans and a band tee unless it's a concert or a show. (That's actually what I'm able wear to my job lol.) If it's a Metal show, I'm wearing my battle vest. Goth shows I'm wearing bondage joggers, band tee, maybe a killstar hoodie. Depends really, I don't wear makeup but some of my friends do. Some people copy an exact look because they like it. Others do it because they want to fit in. I like fashion, I dye my hair because its aesthetically pleasing. Subconsciously my appearance is probably my way of being affiliated with my social tribes. I love Metal it's why I play guitar.🤘
I actually love metal but I wear pretty standard clothes and I think that's because I don't really like black clothing personally. They get washed out in time and idk. I mean I'm all about the bracelets, the patches, the posters and all that. But it's annoying that I'm considered unworthy of listening to metal like wtf. So I guess my problem is quite the opposite from most of you guys :)))) At the end of the day you just have to be yourself and do the things that make you happy
I was into a lot of interesting music growing up and I mean really out of the way stuff it was right after my super stupid pop everything phase I mean we all went into it we've all had the super stupid everything pop is awesome phase and when I finally surfaced I was like oh no. So I began looking around for all different kinds of music to listen to and I heard ax offering, then I heard kiss destroyer, and I was like what's this cuz you got to remember I'm coming out of Pop everything like current pop everything phase. Then I heard icon self-titled album and then night of the crime and then king kobra then the scorpions then ACDC then accept then lion then Raven then grim reaper then Slayer and then roxx. Then after that wildfire and a hole bunch, of kind of out of the way stuff that really sounded like pop rock from the seventies eighties and early nineties and then I discovered the Michael schenker group . Creeeeeek went the archive door and I haven't looked back since. Here's a short list of bands that I really think rock. Van halen, the rods, Judas priest, iron maiden, kicks, LED zeppelin, Molly hatchet, angel, Uriah heep, Ted Nugent deep purple, black sabbath, night ranger, twisted sister, metallica, iron butterfly, Grand funk railroad, the Jimi Hendrix experience, bonham, the Jeff Beck group, nazareth, tesla, Cinderella Def Leppard rage the UK metal band stormbringer the 1980s metal band silent rage, fastway, waysted, skid row, dio, rainbow, alcatraz, yngwie malmsteen, etc
Tbh i think some of us kinda like being anti conformist. It makes look cool or "superior" because with things like tik tok and cardi be in the mainstream and these people doing stupid stuff for fame, we're thankful that were not doing that.
Us metalheads are kind of like biker gangs, in the sense that we look different & don't belong to mainstream society but within our group we are just like each other & we share great passion for great tastes.
It may seem that metalheads are non-comformits to outsiders, but in my experience, once "inside" the community, the level of conformity and close mindedness of metalheads is on par, if not higher, than in the general population. That South Park quote you made is unfortunately true in a lot of places!
They are so non conformist they dress in the same uniform. Band tees in the know heard of,vest of patches those in the know heard of, long hair or no hair. Etc
I am anti conformist. I am a metal head. Can you be a conformist and still be into metal? Yes. But they are only cool if they are a military, or a weight lifter. If you are wearing a suit and tie have that short hair cut. But when no ones looking you listen to ghost............. I look at being into metal, punk, goth, and alt sub cultures are just that a sub culture. I would like it one day. That we had our own country.
True non-conformists just don’t give a shit. I think a good example of this is Jack Grisham from the Punk bands TSOL and Joykiller who never followed punk style, really doing his own thing which was unlike anyone else. I don’t listen to Metal, or for that matter Punk or Goth, because it is non-conformist. I just like it and don’t give a shit.
I know how you feel that actually kind of happened to me but it wasn’t to do with meta-way was to do with monster trucks because I’m a big fan of that stuff anyway I get up from class because the bell rang and this motherfucker came up to me and said why the hell do you always talk about monster trucks? And I’m like because I like it I think it’s cool and he’s like it’s gay
"If you wanna be one of the non-conformists, all you have to do is dress just like us and listen to the same music we do." - Michael (The Goth from South Park)
I haven't watched South Park once, but after that statement, I NEED THAT show in my life.
@@HeathenwoodOfficial late to the game
And smoke cigarettes
I like how the background now reflects to your youtube name.
It's just metalheads being metalheads,our style shows how much we have passion about our genre and our bands
I find it crazy how we live in a society where we are told not to conform to the “normal” and then when you do something that’s not “normal” you get called weird for it
I like to wear both normal and metal clothes depends on my mood and on how high my confidence level is that day. I don't wear it at work though.
Wear it at work
@@biblicaladrian6007 Nah would not be professional
I have been apart of the goth subculture for about 7 years and have just now realized that to some extent, we do conform to the origins of the subculture in regards to wearing black and listening to goth music, however, I think outsiders don't realize that there are a lot of different styles to the culture as well. Such as victorian, vampire, romantic, pastel, trad, and many others. LOVED THE VIDEO THOUGH!!! :)
Don't forget about us, your nerdy cousins, Steampunk goths. Lol
Being a Metalhead of today is more acceptable than it was back in the 80’s and 90’s. Believe me. I was picked on for my shirts and long hair.
Yes somewhat true but there is a new group of people now who hate metal. Woke SJWs, liberal scum, they are like conservative Christians and catholic school teachers.
No, it isn't.
When I first got into metal I never thought of going against the system or what everyone else liked. I genuinely like metal and wearing band t shirts. If you really like something show it off, not everyone else has to like it.
I can't agree more. Anti-conformism is, in a way, conformism.
Sick Marduk poster dude.
I so need a longsleeve of it haha, keeps cropping up all the time.
@@EuanWhitehead Man I've been trying to get a Panzer Division t shirt for a while now. Seems pretty hard to come by. I'll get one at some stage hopefully tho.
@@necromaniacproductions8712 Same here, I want to get a good quality one too.
To me, wearing band shirts/the typical metal style is about showing where I belong, what I like and finding other people who like the same music. It's not about showing the world that I'm "different", it's about finding people who are like me. I don't care what the rest thinks. (Well, and also I want to support the bands I like). Pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks like that.
Also: nice video, as always!
Love the background!
In my experience, the reason I got into metal was because I was exposed to it early in my life and the people that liked pop and rap music shunned me as a kid even when I liked that stuff.
I'm not just 'tryna be edgy' or whatever that stupid shallow statement means. Being different out of passion is not inherently bad, case closed.
Background is badass dude!!!
Spikes, battle vests and band shirts, oh my!!
Great subject, but there are a couple of key things missing. One of them is time. Back in the 2000s and before, the "norm" wasn't as tolerant as it is today. Now, there are makeup products at Sephora called "Heavy Metal" and "Slayer". H&M sells edgy jackets, and many other examples can be listed. Therefore, nowadays it is difficult for fashion to reflect anti-conformity because there has been a blend during the past decade between the mainstream and the underground, hence the idiocy of people wearing t-shirts of bands they don't know. Also, a lot of gamers wear video-game shirts, so many people confuse band shirts for video-game ones.
Secondly, I don't remember if this was on your video or someone else's whom I commented, before we say "average" metalhead, punk, goth, or so on, we should say "visible" instead of assuming that all of them look a certain way. That's because the base of these subcultures is their individual genre. Some people are non-visible punks/goths/metalheads/industrialists, meaning that they listen to their core genre that they love the most, but they won't dress the stereotypical part. "Incognito" is a term you'll hear sometimes for people like that, and I almost always see them at concerts. They may look like a normie, but their taste in music may not be the most conforming while they are amongst their peers. 😉
When I'm out in nu/trad-goth attire, including full makeup, I do get people staring, but they're usually people from second and third world countries, as well as children. They don't do harm, so I just look away. When I used to dress like a metalhead (picture yourself but without the bracers), some people looked at my t-shirts, but not many. And, when I wore my leather jacket on top, some people thought I was a biker (and that's where metal took the idea from, anyway).
We are all our own conformists in our own ways.
Great topic BMW. I have noticed over the years, that certain sub genres of metal attract different political types. I find that OSDM , Thrash and Nu metal generally attract those on the right side of the political spectrum. While those who listen to BDM, BM, SLAM and any of the grind sub genres are generally lefties. If metal was a political movement and not a social one. I believe it would be "post apocalyptic tribalism" .
BMW? Haha I saw what you did there 😉
Wearing band shirts, bullet belts, and battle jackets is just us express ourselves. It's also a form of camaraderie, it allows us to identify like minded metalheads that we can share our love for metal with.
Well I'm pretty sure we're aware of the shock value we carry but I think it's more metal culture then non conforming
We all look for our tribe. Attire is part of every tribe. Some attire may be a bit different, but it’s all just people being people.
Background looks awesome.🤘
The same thing was said about Rock & Roll in the 50s
Then Punk
So you're deciding whether person is conformist or anti-conformists by their clothing? I thought it's about beliefs and behavior, not fashion.
Keep up the great work man. Love to see the videos!!!
Love the new backdrop
Your new background is Kvlt \m/
You can't be a non-conformist if you don't drink coffee.
We all have different ways of having fun with Metal music, but of course, i don't just force it down someone's throat like the elitist that "knows it all, and are better than others".
They of course can decide for themselves once i show my personal taste that is opposed to theirs, and as much as i hate elitism, but you've got to admit, everybody goes through it when they find a new band they have fallen in love with! Lol.
Of what i'm saying, it might not be related to the topic of this video, but surely some or most will know what i mean!
Anyways, good video, Dude! \m/
i love the new background bro looks fucking awesome
When you mentioned the amon amarth concert came to my mind that time when I was attending one of their show with a bunch of friends and a random dude started an argument because a friend of mine was wearing a Bring me the horizon hoodie
So even in theoretically friendly environment as a concert of a band we all like, uncomfortable situations like that can happen
Omfg this new background is so fucking brutal and Good. Love you dude 🤘🏻
Hails from Georgia 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Non-conformity is in itself conformity.
so conformity is actually non-conformity?
Most girls are okay with me being a metalhead.
The hatred comes from other dudes. The swaggy mumble rap "BRO!!!" type of dudes.
I really dont consider myself a conformist or non-conformist; I just do what works for me. Sometimes, however, there can be a strange sense of satisfaction in being defiant.
Precisely
I love you for referencing South Park.
Sick backround!!
Speaking about musical conformity.
Nobody even knows that I love metal unless they specifically ask. Though people very rarely ask. I think only one time in my life somebody asked what I'm listening to when they saw me with my headphones. Nobody even considers that someone might have different taste of music; people assume it's the same usual stuff we hear on radios and in media. I laugh when I see comments in Facebook saying "please, share a good song list" or "share your spotify list, people". Not even in specific musical group, just our city or other FB groups. As if everybody just has same taste of music.
The problem with the South Park quote is that it doesn't recognize that you can be both at the same time. So you can conform to your chosen group while still being anti to society at large.
I guess I'm just naturally a non-conformist. My friends all used to call me the time traveler. I guess they just got used to it over time and stopped calling me that. I guess it adds something to do with coming into school one day wearing a Tandy a.m. headphone radio with protruding knobs on the one side for off on volume and station selection.
I'm really digging the new background
I don't think we're anti-conformists. I think we're just ordinary people within a community of the music we love \m/ Also, awesome background!
I love how you mentioned south park to furthermore explain conformity lol 🤘🌹
It's funny I was talking about this with my wife the other day. I agree metal can have a uniform of sorts I have two sections of my closet work and home. Home is all band t-shirts cammo pants and shorts. Been that was for years. I have some skull jewelry and I am working on a battle vest.
What someone usually means when they say "They're a non-conformist" is: "They don't look and ACT like us, so they aren't ONE of us." Conformity itself is a concept of those in power, or who imagine such, as a means of determining/segregating those who are part of their clique and those who are unworthy. It is the opposite of inclusiveness.
It just metal heads being metal heads and the weekly show
Ah yeah! New background!
It is odd. In the 80s I was into DRI, Suicidal Tendencies, Dead Kennedys, Crumbsuckers and I got a lot less abuse than my friends who were into Savatage, Iron Maiden, etc. This could be due to the crossover fashion being a little more accessible to the 'in crowd', despite the music being arguably more extreme
Hopefully you get to another mail reading episode 🙏
I remember being a teenager (14-15) and people trying to "analyze" me saying that I was a metalhead and dressed the way I did because I was trying to be different and "rebel"... I don't know how many times I've heard "she'll grow out of it". Well, here I am, 35 years old and a mom and I still am and look the exact same. I don't think you can "grow out" of being yourself.
I think the thing is that true non conformists don't even label themselves non conformists or rebels. They just do what they want for no other reason than that's what they believe in, regardless of how society will view it . As soon as bands such as Beatles , Queen and Black Sabbath started experimenting with and creating their own style of music, they were automatically considered non conformists since they had dared to do what no other group done before at the time. But now fast forward several decades later and now the chances that most people in mainstream society have heard those artists.
I'm pretty sure if a Slayer fan sees you wearing a Slayer shirt, they'll say something to you, but it'll be more along the lines of "SLAYERRRRRRRRRRRR"
which is fine
Has an Album Warning ever been given? I've seen most of these videos, and I don't think I've ever seen a Warning, just Recommendations
You always make really good arguments. You should be a politician
Cool background 😎🤘
In my opinion, the fans of Metal music are wearing the Metal outfits only because they like it and they don't feel that they have something to prove. Those who wear Metal outfits to look different they just look ridiculous.
Panzer Division album, keep seeing it everywhere. Need to get a longsleeve. NEED one
Bad Ass new background, bad ass Gauntlets , screw the jealous mundane 🤟🤟🤟🤟 METAL FOREVER !!! 🤟🤟🤟
I don’t that metalheads are non conformists. What I do think is that they aren’t afraid of going against the grain. So they aren’t non conformists or conformists. They are free thinkers who aren’t afraid to take the less traveled path if they prefer it, but they won’t take the less traveled path simply because it is less traveled.
Ya man completely agree with you🤘
I think it depends on the person, for example there are some metalheads who are christians and christianity is very conformed. But for the most part metalheads would naturally just give the middle finger to anyone of authority.
I love his background👹👹🤘👍
Yo the new background looks extra S I C K
Am I ever glad that Metal was never much about fashion.
I believe it kinda is. Of course fashion isn't mandatory, but metal did make me less boring when it came to looks.
@@HeathenwoodOfficial Depends on the subgenre I guess. In Thrash/Death Metal it's mostly basic streetwear. Shirts, Jeans, maybe Sneakers/Converse. Sure, the shirts display our favourite artists and accessories are an option but let's be honest, we're not the most fancy or fashionable bunch.
Glam?
@@biblicaladrian6007 Disavow
@@RÅNÇIÐ Bullet Belts?
Wear what you like otherwise you are conforming.
exactly
As if trying to be different was wrong though. But I do agree, most don't care if it is or it isn't "conformist", if anything, at least most metalheads don't conform to mainstream society (not necessarily at least) so I still think that's good. Of course, cults exist, so it doesn't mean I agree with this in all contexts.
I've never considered myself anti conformist but I have and still do, for the most part deliberately avoid "mainstream" and blockbuster-esq media, games and art. The part I find odd is, it's not a big 'F-you I'm not going to check that out', it's more of a 'meh sounds lame maybe some other time' kinda thing. It's a strange behavior of mine I became aware of years ago. In some ways it's fun and rewarding looking into the dark unfettered corners of humanity, but in time I find myself landing on those titles once recommended. Dig the conversation starter, keep it up.
i feel like it’d probably depend on how try-hard the individual in question would be. i feel like the less experience (for lack of a better word) in the metal community they have, for example i know when i was getting into it i was definitely trying to conform to what other metalheads were doing. however, at this point it’s not as big of a deal to me and i don’t feel like anti conformity is what i’m striving for in life, although i definitely think nonconformity is a good thing.
Are metalheads anti-conformists?"
It really just depends on the person. There are a lot of metalheads out there (and a lot of people in general). Conformity is defined as "compliance with standards, rules, or laws".
Technically, following this definition, everyone is a conformist in some way.
Even the people that say "screw the rules, blah blah blah" are still technically conforming to something. Again, this is all going by the "official definition" of the term "conformity".
I'm being very legalistic here tbh.😆
Well, the appearance aspect is pretty tribal. That's more about demonstrating belonging than a big middle finger to the rest of society, though.
For me I just like what I like and I'm passionate so I want to wear shirts and such related to the things I'm passionate about.. 🤷♂️ Because you know, shirts with no images on it are boring.
And black clothes just make me feel comfortable, colorful stuff just doesn't feel right for me, makes me feel a little more insecure.
Does anyone know where to find that type of gauntlet he’s wearing?? 🤔 🤔
You can buy leather bracers from ebay and spikes from numerous sites and make one.
Studs and spikes is one site.
@@ucitymetalhead oh really,
Thanks i appreciate it!!
Personally, I have ever lived in more liberal part of Germany, so there is no issue, beeing different.
My intention of wearing Bandshirts, black jeans and having long hair is
1) about solidarity towards my beloved bands and music genre
2) about my personal aesthetics in regards to colour, design,...
3) not beeing mentally enslaved by the generic mainstream community.
Metalheads being metalheads. You do have a point, there some people that'll judge somebody for wearing anything that they themselves would or would not wear (that's my opinion). I just see it as someone just wearing favorite band shirt.
Those are some nice black metal wall flags they make it pop out more.
just metalheads supporting the genre, besides the t shirts are usually great artwork-like the one you're wearing now
I stopped skating to watch this
I stopped since the weather got worse in my place. But I'm glad to see a member of another community I like.
@@HeathenwoodOfficial same
I have spiky hair, I wear mostly black t-shirts, I have a battle vest to show my passion for the music I like (metal and punk), and nobody gives me shit for it. At best, it's compliments like "Sick hair, bro." At worst, it's creepy stares from older people with no social skills.
Politically yes we can be but not so much when it comes to fashion and music thats just how culture works a lot of people tend to like and do some of the same things when theyre apart of a culture.
I've always just liked what I liked. As a kid I didn't fit in because I just liked what I liked. Where as my peers only did what was popular out of their fear of being ostracized. I typically dress down, black jeans and a band tee unless it's a concert or a show. (That's actually what I'm able wear to my job lol.) If it's a Metal show, I'm wearing my battle vest. Goth shows I'm wearing bondage joggers, band tee, maybe a killstar hoodie.
Depends really, I don't wear makeup but some of my friends do. Some people copy an exact look because they like it. Others do it because they want to fit in. I like fashion, I dye my hair because its aesthetically pleasing. Subconsciously my appearance is probably my way of being affiliated with my social tribes. I love Metal it's why I play guitar.🤘
What is on your T-shirt?
I actually love metal but I wear pretty standard clothes and I think that's because I don't really like black clothing personally. They get washed out in time and idk. I mean I'm all about the bracelets, the patches, the posters and all that. But it's annoying that I'm considered unworthy of listening to metal like wtf. So I guess my problem is quite the opposite from most of you guys :)))) At the end of the day you just have to be yourself and do the things that make you happy
It reminds me of the the Goths in South park
I agree with you man
I was into a lot of interesting music growing up and I mean really out of the way stuff it was right after my super stupid pop everything phase I mean we all went into it we've all had the super stupid everything pop is awesome phase and when I finally surfaced I was like oh no. So I began looking around for all different kinds of music to listen to and I heard ax offering, then I heard kiss destroyer, and I was like what's this cuz you got to remember I'm coming out of Pop everything like current pop everything phase. Then I heard icon self-titled album and then night of the crime and then king kobra then the scorpions then ACDC then accept then lion then Raven then grim reaper then Slayer and then roxx. Then after that wildfire and a hole bunch, of kind of out of the way stuff that really sounded like pop rock from the seventies eighties and early nineties and then I discovered the Michael schenker group . Creeeeeek went the archive door and I haven't looked back since. Here's a short list of bands that I really think rock. Van halen, the rods, Judas priest, iron maiden, kicks, LED zeppelin, Molly hatchet, angel, Uriah heep, Ted Nugent deep purple, black sabbath, night ranger, twisted sister, metallica, iron butterfly, Grand funk railroad, the Jimi Hendrix experience, bonham, the Jeff Beck group, nazareth, tesla, Cinderella Def Leppard rage the UK metal band stormbringer the 1980s metal band silent rage, fastway, waysted, skid row, dio, rainbow, alcatraz, yngwie malmsteen, etc
I feel like if I walked past this guy his wrist blade would make me look like an emo conformist.
Fun fact: we are all conformists.
Even if you are anti conformist, then you are conforming to it.
I want one of those marduk flags.
We conform to the style we like. That's all.
Yes.
Tbh i think some of us kinda like being anti conformist. It makes look cool or "superior" because with things like tik tok and cardi be in the mainstream and these people doing stupid stuff for fame, we're thankful that were not doing that.
Metal is naturally anti-conformity, but that doesn't mean you can't find conformity in metal crowds.
Us metalheads are kind of like biker gangs, in the sense that we look different & don't belong to mainstream society but within our group we are just like each other & we share great passion for great tastes.
I think people copy everything nowadays I will skate and everyone wants to look the same
It may seem that metalheads are non-comformits to outsiders, but in my experience, once "inside" the community, the level of conformity and close mindedness of metalheads is on par, if not higher, than in the general population. That South Park quote you made is unfortunately true in a lot of places!
They are so non conformist they dress in the same uniform. Band tees in the know heard of,vest of patches those in the know heard of, long hair or no hair. Etc
Sons of Baller
I am anti conformist. I am a metal head. Can you be a conformist and still be into metal? Yes. But they are only cool if they are a military, or a weight lifter. If you are wearing a suit and tie have that short hair cut. But when no ones looking you listen to ghost.............
I look at being into metal, punk, goth, and alt sub cultures are just that a sub culture. I would like it one day. That we had our own country.
True non-conformists just don’t give a shit. I think a good example of this is Jack Grisham from the Punk bands TSOL and Joykiller who never followed punk style, really doing his own thing which was unlike anyone else. I don’t listen to Metal, or for that matter Punk or Goth, because it is non-conformist. I just like it and don’t give a shit.
I know how you feel that actually kind of happened to me but it wasn’t to do with meta-way was to do with monster trucks because I’m a big fan of that stuff anyway I get up from class because the bell rang and this motherfucker came up to me and said why the hell do you always talk about monster trucks? And I’m like because I like it I think it’s cool and he’s like it’s gay