I don’t care either, but I’m always impressed by how comfortable people feel to insult your musical taste when it happens to be metal. If I would react like that to someone saying they like, say, R&B, the person would legitimately feel offended and everyone in the room would condemn me, no matter if they like R&B or not. But with metal it’s like there is a consensus that it’s bad and that it’s common sense to hate it.
I'm a metalhead. I've been into metal for 40 years or so. I'm, also, into jazz, classical, rock, blues, rap, etc. I don't like everything in any genre of music. I like what I like, for my own reasons. I dislike what I dislike, for my own reasons. I DO NOT like/dislike music because someone tells me to. I listen, then decide. In my experience, most metalheads do the same. It seems to be the mindless, mainstream drones that hate on music, and anything else they are not specifically told to like by "THE MEDIA".
Indeed - I'm 49 at the time of writing, and even though metal is my favourite genre, I can appreciate music from many genres - probably due to the amount of metal that has actually included things like classical, opera, blues, rap and other genres into it. For ME metal is THE most inclusive genre out there, with influences from all manners of musical backgrounds. Hell, it all goes back to European folk music and American blues in the first place.
Good perspective. A lot of people just generalize Metal and won’t give it a chance. Some people are just uneducated about the history of it. I’ll admit that there are certain things that I don’t like but I try to understand a little bit about it. The religious pricks are just ignorant
To all people who hate metal but never really listened to it or studied it: analyze before you criticize. It’s okay to not like something if it’s simply not your thing, but don’t trash something when you know nothing about it.
Not related to the video but i swear metal thrives the most when it has an "enemy" so to say,by far the best and probably only being the the 80s and early 90s hardcore christians (miss them)
It should've stayed underground tbh. I don't like being accepted these days 🤣 mohawks are normal now, tattoos are normal now. Hair dye is normal. I liked it better when we didn't belong at all and they hated us 😅
@@MegaSaintAugustine I saw Stryper at the "INSIDE OUT SOUL FESTIVAL, it was awesome! They played to a couple hundred people at the bottom of a ski lift. If Stryper had sold out their identity, buried their Christianity, they would be in the same breath as Slayer and Priest. The guitar work of Michael and Ozz was dropping, I've seen the big acts, they held their own! I guess I appreciate their integrity.
I feel like there has been negative media surrounding metal for a while, so a lot of people feel like it is wrong or bad. What I find interesting is the societal phenomenon of celebrities/influencers picking up small pieces of a subculture (like band shirts or combat boots), making it mainstream or trendy, and only then does it become "ok" or less polarizing. I've seen it through TikTok and Pinterest, trends coming and going while actual members of the community are ostracised before and after the thing, whatever it may be, is popular. The world is full of sheep :)
Totally get what you’re saying. Rolling Stone almost never posts anything metal related unless it’s the Pat O’Brien incident (cause it’s Cannibal Corpse) or Mansons recent assault allegations.
Oh, definitely negative media - and let's face it: metal THRIVED on the negative media, and still does: for every handful of "normies" the negative press scared away, there were a couple dedicated new metal fans who got into metal just to see what all the hand-wringing and negativity were all about, and stayed around because they enjoyed what they heard, probably on top of enjoying the shock effect on the sheep at the same time :)
Im a metalhead and have been for a long time, i study medicine and the number of metalheads studying and working in medicine and sciences in general blows my mind. So whenever someone tells me that metal is for burnouts i instantly call bullshit.
I’m always impressed by how comfortable people feel to insult your musical taste when it happens to be metal. If I would react like that to someone saying they like, say, R&B, the person would legitimately feel offended and everyone in the room would condemn me, no matter if they like R&B or not. But with metal it’s like there is a consensus that it’s bad and that it’s common sense to hate it.
I was once friends with this girl that claimed she didn't like metal. I asked why and she she said it didn't take skill. I asked what bands she listened to while I no longer remember the bands listed they where all metal core or nu metal. I agreed with her she then admitted that she didn't know that much about metal.
When someone says shit like "it takes no talent" I always fallow up that statement with....ok let me hear ur best death metal growl and let me see u play guitar.
It's always easier for most people to stupidly say "I hate" without any source of knowledge or understanding than to express and accurately formulate what they actually enjoy, like or love and why. I believe it's also part of the modern times to quickly express what passes for an opinion than to actually take time to give it some thoughts and confront their preconceived ideas. You know the overused expression "haters gonna hate" - in this case, it is relevant. Just pay negative people no mind and surround yourselves with folks who will bring out the best of you. The rest is background noise and a genuine waste of time.
It's nothing to do with 'modern times'. And this sort of whining is always a little entertaining when it's a near certainty that most on this page 'hate hip hop'.
Excellent video as always BMW. I'm proud to say that I have converted a few people to liking metal and yes, they were people who had never really listened to it.
I was raised by my dad who was a boomer rocker, very into Chicago and the stones. I was raised to hate metal the irony is that my musical vocabulary was pre-disposed to be more open to it. I've been listening to Broadway and rock music since infancy. So I became musician. Being a musician made me so open to new sounds that I naturally fell in love with it much to my dads chagrin He mocks the vocals and down-tuning that's about it though he doesn't care about the imagery.
A lot of metal fans certainly share the same type of criticism for a music genre. I always hear things like "rap is only about sex, drugs and partying".
I feel like that's one of the biggest problems of most metalheads now a days tbh. They talk so much shit on other genres of music but get defensive when people don't like metal
100% agree with you on this. The few people I have met that don't like metal have the most basic understanding of radio rock/metal and use that for their point of reference. They'll just see edgy and satanic where as everyone else actually know the bands we're talking about. It's the imagery that metal presents too. I've seen a few of those crappy reaction channels, one was this woman who was saying these bands are so violent after watching ONE Cannibal Corpse music video. But it also goes for us too, a lot of us have a general disliking to country (modern country for me sucks), rap, pop, etc.. I am somewhat informed when it comes to the genres I don't like but I could see where they're coming from.
If we're being fair, we'll have to admit that metal really doesn't make itself very easy for "normies" to like - that's part of its appeal for many of us - while as time goes on, metal pushes itself to further and further extremes distant from the pop music norm. I mean, consider the ways that metal has evolved over the decades: early metal was practically indistinguishable from more radio-friendly rock, with bands like AC/DC, Blue Oyster Cult, Led Zeppelin, KISS, and Van Halen straddling or crossing the line and being a regular part radio rock playlists in their time, and even today appear under the catch-all category of "classic rock", even thought they had a number of songs between them that wouldn't have sounded out of place alongside Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Saxon, and the like... and even Black Sabbath sounds more like "normal" classic rock than the music that appeared in the wake of punk and metal crossing over each other's genres into what would become thrash, death, black, industrial, and gothic metal, driving metal into directions that many fans of classic punk and metal might barely recognize as music, had they suddenly discovered, say, Napalm Death, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Mrobid Angel, Darkthrone, Cradle of Filth, or whatever via time-warp to the 1970s! For anyone used to what passes for pop music today - that autotuned R&B dance stuff - the now ubiquitous heavy metal growls and shrieks alone are a gigantic hurdle to clear before they can even give the music a chance. Even the instrumentation is strange and harsh - buzzsaw guitars, thundering drums, etc..... And that's before you even begin to get into the bizarre costumes and imagery, the absolutely alien subject matter (the average pop song about insipid and obsessive sex and teen crushes finds no real parallel in metal's tendency toward songs about history, politics, religion, philosophy, the occult, fantasy and science fiction, etc.!), the weird song structures, the emphasis on a gloomy and anxious minor key sound palette (vs. pop's tendency toward major key), the use of strange jazz chords and exotic note scales, song lengths that fall short of or (more often) exceed a radio-friendly three or four minutes, an so on.... Put all of the different ways that metal says "don't like me!' together, and it's a wonder that metal gets any new fans at all! Ithink a lot of us who have listened to metal for decades have forgotten what this music must sound like to anyone who isn't used to it, and maybe a lot of us don't quite realize anymore (if we ever did) just how much of an investment of our willingness to give metal a fair chance it took for us to embrace those weird vocals, strange noises, goofy costumes, odd musical decisions, alien influences, morbid subject matter, and so on, before the whole thing 'clicked' and we got it... many of us who were around since the '70s and '80s got into this thing gradually, moving across the spectrum from harder rock styles like psychedelic, shock rock, hard rock, prog rock, punk rock, goth rock, New Wave, original heavy metal, and so on, into NWoBHM and speed metal, then thrash, and on and on until extreme metal just seemed like another sort of rock music to us. For those "normies" who never grew up on actual rock music, let alone had the benefit of working their way through 50 years or more of rock's gradual evolution into the metal we know and love today, a cold jump into modern metal must be quite an extreme shock: an extreme sensory overload of unfamiliar and jarring things that have no parallel in more popular music today! Meanwhile, metal shooed out all the clowns a long time ago: metal ballads, hair metal's party songs and pop-style love songs, the occasional dabbling in popular styles like disco and so on, the all-but-extinct shock-rock or metal novelty songs (you can still find that sort of thing on the occasional retro-thrash metal albums, but it's getting rarer), and so on - all things that might break up metal's usual doom-and-gloom with a little accessible sunlight - are pretty far out of fashion today. Add to metal's self-conscious efforts not to be liked by normal people, the fact that metal even today still struggles with a decades-old stigma and stereotype as simplistic and talentless caveman noises that will somehow make normal people drop out of school, do drugs, sacrifice animals, kill themselves, become misogynistic racist homophobes, and grow up into sociopathic man-children with no jobs or friends, and it's readily clear that metal has a gigantic P.R. problem to deal with, before getting any "normie" to passively listen to it by accident, let alone try to give it half a chance! It's something most people have to be predisposed toward ignoring or embracing before they'll even try to listen to metal and decide whether they like it. After all, most of us who do like this music, like it in spite of the stigma, or even because of it - the bad reputation surrounding metal is for us a feature, not a bug - but try convincing "normies" who want no part of that reputation of the charms of a style of music that has outsiders convinced you are an unpopular, sociopathic, angry, depressed, suicidal ghoul!
I have just started a channel myself and this subject is one of those I would like to tackle in the coming weeks/months. To add to what you said, one has to understand that in general metalheads (being a minority culture) tend to be more passionate towards their love for Metal and therefore anyone who attacks their love, will most probably get an aggressive reply since they hold Metal very close to their heart and they have suffered due to them being into Metal in the first place.
I think the main difference is that metal heads tend to keep their distaste for other genres to themselves (as most people do when it comes to most genres). But everyone feels comfortable and entitled to shit on metal very openly and very publicly without thinking twice if it might be inelegant or hurt someone
I absolutely agree. Those who hate metal have barely heard any of it. Sure, there's the extreme metal growls that some won't like, but to just shun the entire genre of metal is ridiculous!
You made a good point about radio play/ exposure. I admit to saying "I hate rap" more than I should but it's literally everywhere and I can honestly say its no good. The normies embrace that though.
I dont think people that "hate "metal have ever listened to it. Also I know metalheads are annoyed at pop rap and country because they hear it all the time same crap over and over . So I agree with you
I have a friend who was brought up extremely conservative and was well... more or less told what to think. And one day they told me that heavy metal was all noise and that they used to date someone who was into metal. Eventually I told them "Listen to Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden. Then we'll talk " Even though I don't like it when people are judgmental about genres such as rock or metal, at least not all of them say: *gasp!* "You like that type of music? You're a bad person!" Now that gets under my skin
To like something or to dislike something is subjective. Hence every reason why you like something or to hate something. Will always be a reasonable statement. To get to the bottom of this rabbit hole. Is a fruitless endeavor.
6:48...that's a great point too...(I know I'm commenting a lot) ...but yes I'm familiar with a lot of other music styles...like on jobs, Country, or my dad loved classical, I had to go to church growing up so I know church music, I've listened to Pop, even bought some Pop CDs and country CDs ...r&b ...all kinds of stuff. But in the end I like Metal and Metal sub genres and Metal hybrid genres the best. 👍
It would be really awesome to see you try something new on your channel , maybe some top tens , maybe something like a weekly or monthy video where you talk about the latest news in the metal scene ...
Some people simply can't handle a lot of loud notes and the others are ignorant and never dig deeper. My other favorite music genre is EDM (Electronic Dance Music and some of its sub categories) I'm really big into The Prodigy for example. I know a lot of metal heads dislike it, but its the complexity of different samples and sounds that can be taken and created and mixed to form a cool beat is what makes it enjoyable to me. It does take a level of skill to do from scratch. If you get to be a pro at it you can work as a sound engineer, producer and more. Useful stuff for resumes lol I do listen to some hip-hop and rap still, however I'm very picky. Some mainstream "rap" today only has 8 or less words max in it. You're only listening to the track for the beat the producer created and not the artist who's dropping "fire" 🔥 bars lmao I'm aware crossover metal and grindcore/goregrind has little to no words in the lyrics sometimes and the songs can be really short, but that isn't the point. These few "rappers" are putting in no effort, they don't help make the beat either so they're useless as musicians. Only useful to the record companies that make bread off them. When they are put on the spot to actually rap outside the studio they fall apart lol
In middle school I took the school bus. One of the bus drivers played exclusively Christian radio, the others played standard shitty radio. I hated it. Fortunately my dad had Marching out, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, Somewhere In Time and Powerslave on iTunes, to which I added The Book of Souls, Piece of Mind, The Number of the Beast, and Brave New World. When my parents bought an Apple Music subscription I downloaded Slayer's entire discography. Now my family must live with the fact that they allowed me to buy a turntable and stereo.
well said! i think its a good idea to keep in mind "normie friendly" songs to recommend people. i have a friend who mostly listens to pop, and she listened to mirror reaper after i talked about it and she really liked it... not that that's my go-to recommendation, for a couple obvious reasons lol
I used to be the guy who said I hate metal, then I started listening to it and I realized I actually really liked it. it's just blind hatred, I totally agree with the idea that metal is sort of subconsciously taught to be disliked to kids. it took me only a couple of weeks to realize how much I liked it once I actually started to listen to it
To be honest, I met and saw countless people who actually hate metal even with hearing metal or rock. "Oh HoW cAn ANyboDy LisTen To THis ??" they ask. Always. I see smug, cringeing faces of disgust when people hear metal or rock song and then loudly exclaim "This is not my thing! I don't know who can actually listen to this." They sometimes belittle you and look down upon you, because "HoW cAn ANyboDy LisTen To THis ??" I'm so tired of seeing this, at least in my country. I'm so tired of people thinking that they are so much better then me and other metal lovers, just because they deem metal low. Then they turn around enjoy freaking Beyonce or anything that's on Eurovision (though there had been a few solid rock songs in past years and I saw lots of hate on those songs precisely from the usual Eurovision type of song lovers). Pathetic. Metal is usually dark sounding, deep, harmonic melodies with heaviness and strength on them. Casuals simply cannot stand anything that they deem "negative". They hate minor key, they hate heaviness, they hate harmonies and darker lyrical themes. They love rainbows and clouds and unicorns... Because enjoying something darker and stronger requires sitting down and thinking, while many casuals simply don't try to achieve that.
Reminds me of the times in the car with my ex. He hated metal but loved butt rock. He said most metal was the same 3 cords because he played music and would know. It was very annoying.
I've had so many experiences of people trashing rock music in general, and people definitely distance themselves from metal. I think you previoulsy covered a similar topic and I commented about a co-worker that stated that she "liked a bit of everything apart from metal because it's just screaming". A few weeks later, shortly after Chester Bennington's death, we were basically having an office party and someone put Linkin Park on the playlist. Then she said something like "I was in tears when I heard Chester died, he was my favourite singer, I even liked his screams". I was face-palming at the hypocrisy. I have a friend that mainly listened to Pop and Indie rock, and was quite negative towards metal. I later found out one of his favourite bands was System of a Down. I think some people think about the perceived negative reputation of the genre, so distance themselves from it; which then just perpetuates it. After a social event at a nightclub, someone asked me why I hadn't been dancing/singing along with everyone else. I said it wasn't my scene, but referenced I was into rock and metal. She then said she understood, but that style of music was definitely not her thing. I looked at her confused because the club did play a few rock songs like AC/DC, Guns and Roses, and The Killers - and these songs were ones that got the biggest reaction from her. I think people often ignore the "rock" part when you say "rock and metal", and just focus on the "metal"; then falsely believe there's no crossover between your music tastes.
I think even metalheads “hate” (probably not hatred... too strong) some forms of metal or some bands. I find metalheads can often at least explain why a particular sub genre isn’t their cup of tea. People outside the genre often can’t go much beyond the usual complaints about the harsh vocals. I think why there are so many “haters” is because the more extreme sub genres are very much an acquired taste. The path for for someone to go from listening to something outside of metal... say Duran Duran or Drake... to acquiring a taste for a band such as Drudkh or Darkthrone is not going to happen quickly. Too many little steps up the metal mountain for most people to appreciate those metal bands.
My wife is not a fan of what I normally listen to, like Belphegor, Watain, Dying Fetus, etc... but she is ok with stuff like KSE or Lamb of God and a lot of hardcore bands. She mostly listens to pop and stuff, I can’t fault someone for not being into the more extreme stuff I listen to.
So many times I’ve heard the “I can’t stand metal” declaration and after I’ve showed them certain examples of what metal can be, they’re just amazed. So yeah, they usually base their opinion on just a couple of songs they’ve heard for 2 minutes or may be what everybody says.
1:14... Absolutely. I've experienced this so much in my life. I got into Metal in high school about when Iron Maiden released Number of the Beast. There's a popular idea to bash Metal. At that time there were people who knew nothing about Metal and would talk like they had knowledge about it. It's the same today, only now the old Metal has become an acceptable art form by most people and the newer stuff gets criticized. I have an opinionated friend that will go to all the stereotype answers in conversation. ... he'll say country is relaxing, things like that and he'll criticize Metal without having a frame of reference to draw from. I'll make specific reference but he has no idea who it is. One day he was riding with me and I was humming lyrics to Black number one and he's like what? I'm like yeah, type 0 ...and he's like, never heard of it ...so, something from thirty years ago that is history to people who listen to it, he doesn't know it. Thanks great vid.
In general these people want to uplift themselfs by hating on something, they want to sound clever and have something to say about everything. Well... how can you be better than someone who has exposed himself to more stuff than you? In your mind how is it uplifting to not let people enjoy other stuff than you? Grow up my sweet adult baby, we have brocoli for dinner today not attention.
I didn’t think I would like metal because of the stigma around it ( it’s Satanic, it’s for crazy people only) and the fact I thought it would be bad for my anxiety and anger issues weirdly enough. When I met a metal chick at work in 2016 that all changed she showed me King Diamond and Iron Maiden and my jaw hit the floor. I grew up around the era of Nu Metal and thought that was what metal was suppose to sound like so I was totally surprised it could sound that amazing. I started listening to lots of different bands and stuck with what I liked first then expanded my tastes to like all kinds of metal now. If your able to find metal on your own that’s great but it’s awesome when you can meet someone that changes your perceptions too.
Most people that I know don't like metal but if I ask why they can't answer. My daughter's boyfriend is not a metal head but he listened to some songs of different bands and he actually was surprised. He had no idea it wasn't that bad...
most people have a filter when they hear harsh vocals that they immediately disregard every other musical aspect in a song and assume it's noise that doesn't go together, some people you just can't win but occasionally they'll overhear the right song and it will click or they will at least see the musicality in a song but overall it's my music for my ears, I won't force it.
Hey, first time im checking out your channel and I have to say thats a great display of flags. CF, Darkthrone, fucking Panzer Division Marduk, good shit man, good taste
I always tell em "you dont hate it, you're just scared of metal"! The main-streamers have always shoved metal into bottom claiming it was awful, it sucked, when really metal artists are some of the most musically talented people to exist. The only genre I really dont care for is country.
I am a metalhead who enjoys a bunch of other music like old school rap, grindcore, electro, new wave, synthpop, jazz, classical, prog rock, post-punk, folk, funk, 60's garage rock, etc. The only genres I am not able liking is country and K-pop, I really tried my best listening to these but this is not my cup of tea. I understand where people come from when they say they don't like metal, it is not a popular music played at radio, TV, also they don't know there's a bunch of subgenres. They must not have people enjoying metal around them.
I listen to almost exclusively metal but there are a variety of reasons for people to not like it. Vocals are a big thing for people I know who don't like it. I agree with your perspective that metal heads are kind of force-fed mainstream music. You can't walk into a store, turn in the TV, turn on the radio, etc without getting an injection of shit you don't like. And I agree that metal isn't baked into society like pop, country, and hip hop. But that doesn't seem to play a huge role in my experience. However, in my experience, I've never really had people say they hate it for nonsensical reasons unless they're trolling because we are friends and they're just looking to talk shit. They pretty much always bring up the vocals and say, they could get into the music itself if not for the vocals. And this doesn't just apply to death growls and black metal vocals. Power metal and thrash metal often times have vocals that require and acquired taste. My wife doesn't like Iron Maiden because of the vocals. That's just my perspective and what I've encountered.
I would suggest they try different bands or maybe different subgenres of Metal. Like JRock/JPop listeners may be interested in Symphonic/ Melodic / or Power Metal, more than doom or black metal. Uses that as a example since that applied to me. There are a few subgenre's that I've been able to get into and enjoy and some that I just can't get into like black metal. (and I have tried several different bands). Think it could be more of a pacing or beats per min type of thing, since not due to being unable understanding the band/singer isn't the issue, nor is it due to any "satanish" lyrics.
Number 1 reason anyone I've encountered dislikes or hates metal is the harsh vocals. Number 2 reason is probably the intensity and speed which they can't "dance" to. Both of those reasons are totally understandable to me and is why when the conversation comes up at work I don't go out of my way to defend Metal anymore, just shrug it off, life's too short for elitism and intolerance.
Coming from a strongly Evangelical Fundamentalist family I heard all the usual reasons: "it's Satanic, it's of the devil, it's intended to corrupt people." Of course they used the examples of bands that actually mentioned the devil/satan in lyrics, or sang about violent things. I've heard other people say "Oh, it's just a bunch of screaming and noise;" and, point, I don't personally care for what I refer to as "Scream Metal": gimme some thoughtful lyrics and a catchy melody plz. I've heard "Oh, it's just the same thing they sing about over and over." When I pressed for specifics the answer was usually "death/dying" and I was like "Ok, you don't like Death Metal, I don't really either. What other metal have you listened to?" Blank stares. So, there's a lot of anecdotal stuff that people morph into "opinions" without ever bothering to do any first-person investigating.
I think that most people just don't understand metal, and too many of them think that its all about Satan and demons and shit. But yeah, it is slightly irritating when assholes are too narrow minded to give it a chance. But on the positive side, things would be boring if we all liked metal. Where I come from, I enjoy being one of the "different ones", because the rest of them are all the same. Suits me just fine 😁
Wow Metal is such a big topic 😯 there is so much to talk about I never knew that when I entered the Metal community ohh and in Germany they only play some Linkin Park in the Radio and it’s labeled as » Heavy music « . Some of my family members are judging Metal for no reason and I always argue with them it sucks
The most of the people that I know who say they hate Metal music they have never listened to Metal. There are also people who secretly like Metal music and culture and they never say that they like it. I have noticed that people who have listened to Metal and they didn't like it they just say that they don't like it and the conversation ends there. Anyway! Everyone of us has to respect other people's musical tastes and culture. 🤘 STAY BRUTAL!🤘
In all honesty, I think that there isn't enough exposure for rock, metal etc. Why is that? If more people got to listen to a wide variety of music on TV, Radio then peoples opinions might change and they might then go online to discover more.
I think most people who claim to hate metal are just unaware of how diverse metal has become. They might have heard something super fast or super brutal and then they believe all metal is like that, or they think everything sounds like Maiden or Priest, or they think every metal and is all about satan when in fact there is this whole spectrum from melodic and catchy to the most brutal stuff you can think of and everything in between.
honestly, i don't think most people who dislike metal can name 3 bands that are actually metal. a lot of them don't realise not all metal uses gutteral vocals of some sort. so when i walt in and tell someone i mostly listen to power, symphonic and prog metal with some folk and modern metal in there and they are like "oh you listen to Metallica" or make some attempts at a growl, they just come across as ignorant.
i started listening to this guy doinig a one man project and hes only got like 150 monthly listeners on spotify and in the about section it was saying how the project at first was to release his iner emotions and handle his feelings. he then said that depression and selfhatred started to take control of his mind and by making music it helped. most people like some of my friends who dont listen to metal hear that one band is satanic or something like that and use that for every other metal band they listen to but in reality they should look at bands/ projects like this guy who do it to help with mental problems annd that sort of thing. (if anyone was wondering, the guy is suizid on spotify)
..People that may claim hate metal ...the main reason is that is loud and distorted so they dont get it the first time !!! but little by little anybody can get into it .. is like EVERYBODY had listened to Chop Suey for godsakes !!...and EVERYBODY likes it !! ...it is a metal based track with all its genres variations on it...so in the end ALL WE HAVE a little metal head in our brains ..
I no lie got this as a response to saying that I was in the metal back in 2008. This is a bit of a spine chiller because it's starting to come true now. I hate metal, because it's a speaker killer, and we're running out of usable radios. I believe the guy about the speaker killer part but I pretty much ridiculed him about running out of usable radios if I ever see him again I will apologize.
I used to hang out with non-metal heads back in highschool. They were wearing baggy clothes back in the early 2000s and I was wearing denim jacket, tight jeans and long hair. Haha! They didn't hate. Haha
If someone tells me they hate metal I do not care. I only care that I like it.
Yeah but you still disembowel them yeah?
@@Rem1Gnova haha
I don’t care either, but I’m always impressed by how comfortable people feel to insult your musical taste when it happens to be metal. If I would react like that to someone saying they like, say, R&B, the person would legitimately feel offended and everyone in the room would condemn me, no matter if they like R&B or not. But with metal it’s like there is a consensus that it’s bad and that it’s common sense to hate it.
@@Rem1Gnova That could be messy. Especially if the person is full of shit.
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I'm a metalhead. I've been into metal for 40 years or so. I'm, also, into jazz, classical, rock, blues, rap, etc. I don't like everything in any genre of music. I like what I like, for my own reasons. I dislike what I dislike, for my own reasons. I DO NOT like/dislike music because someone tells me to. I listen, then decide. In my experience, most metalheads do the same. It seems to be the mindless, mainstream drones that hate on music, and anything else they are not specifically told to like by "THE MEDIA".
This. From Bethovan, to Coltrane, to Hank, to Holly, to the Beatles, to Jimi, to Sabbath, to Mayfield, and on and on and on...
Indeed - I'm 49 at the time of writing, and even though metal is my favourite genre, I can appreciate music from many genres - probably due to the amount of metal that has actually included things like classical, opera, blues, rap and other genres into it. For ME metal is THE most inclusive genre out there, with influences from all manners of musical backgrounds.
Hell, it all goes back to European folk music and American blues in the first place.
Good perspective. A lot of people just generalize Metal and won’t give it a chance. Some people are just uneducated about the history of it. I’ll admit that there are certain things that I don’t like but I try to understand a little bit about it. The religious pricks are just ignorant
Yet there's badass christian metal bands like impending doom, in the midst of lions, zao, demon hunter, etc.
Totally agree. Someone looked at my Slayer shirt (same as werewolf’s) and they called it screamo.........
"Marilyn Manson is a bit of a weirdo" That aged well
To all people who hate metal but never really listened to it or studied it: analyze before you criticize.
It’s okay to not like something if it’s simply not your thing, but don’t trash something when you know nothing about it.
Same to metalheads who hate rap
@@TheSlicktyler I don’t mind rap so long as there’s actual drumming and guitar work.
They should also analyze use as people too.
why would analyze something that you dont like though
@@hogansmith7075 One’s criticism is not valid if they refuse to understand the thing they’re criticizing. That’s why.
Not related to the video but i swear metal thrives the most when it has an "enemy" so to say,by far the best and probably only being the the 80s and early 90s hardcore christians (miss them)
Exactly! struggling with things and having problems to solve is in my opinion what makes most people feel alive and worthy in total
It should've stayed underground tbh. I don't like being accepted these days 🤣 mohawks are normal now, tattoos are normal now. Hair dye is normal. I liked it better when we didn't belong at all and they hated us 😅
...very on point...and probably pretty accurate. 😁👍
I'm a Christian, and I'm also a metalhead. I was, and still am, a Stryper fan.
@@MegaSaintAugustine I saw Stryper at the "INSIDE OUT SOUL FESTIVAL, it was awesome! They played to a couple hundred people at the bottom of a ski lift. If Stryper had sold out their identity, buried their Christianity, they would be in the same breath as Slayer and Priest. The guitar work of Michael and Ozz was dropping, I've seen the big acts, they held their own! I guess I appreciate their integrity.
My philosophy is simple! If you don’t like metal, we have nothing else to talk about! Metal is the blood of the soul!
Same for me🤘!
Thanks for grabbing a CD and for the recommendation!! Much appreciated! :)
I feel like there has been negative media surrounding metal for a while, so a lot of people feel like it is wrong or bad. What I find interesting is the societal phenomenon of celebrities/influencers picking up small pieces of a subculture (like band shirts or combat boots), making it mainstream or trendy, and only then does it become "ok" or less polarizing. I've seen it through TikTok and Pinterest, trends coming and going while actual members of the community are ostracised before and after the thing, whatever it may be, is popular. The world is full of sheep :)
Totally get what you’re saying. Rolling Stone almost never posts anything metal related unless it’s the Pat O’Brien incident (cause it’s Cannibal Corpse) or Mansons recent assault allegations.
It's true.
THIS
Oh, definitely negative media - and let's face it: metal THRIVED on the negative media, and still does: for every handful of "normies" the negative press scared away, there were a couple dedicated new metal fans who got into metal just to see what all the hand-wringing and negativity were all about, and stayed around because they enjoyed what they heard, probably on top of enjoying the shock effect on the sheep at the same time :)
Im a metalhead and have been for a long time, i study medicine and the number of metalheads studying and working in medicine and sciences in general blows my mind. So whenever someone tells me that metal is for burnouts i instantly call bullshit.
I’m always impressed by how comfortable people feel to insult your musical taste when it happens to be metal. If I would react like that to someone saying they like, say, R&B, the person would legitimately feel offended and everyone in the room would condemn me, no matter if they like R&B or not. But with metal it’s like there is a consensus that it’s bad and that it’s common sense to hate it.
I was once friends with this girl that claimed she didn't like metal. I asked why and she she said it didn't take skill. I asked what bands she listened to while I no longer remember the bands listed they where all metal core or nu metal. I agreed with her she then admitted that she didn't know that much about metal.
When someone says shit like "it takes no talent" I always fallow up that statement with....ok let me hear ur best death metal growl and let me see u play guitar.
Ah, I love it when they pull that card. Terrible choice lol
Not really sure about nu metal or metalcore bands not having skill/talent though.
Good music is present in all genres/sub-genres
It's always easier for most people to stupidly say "I hate" without any source of knowledge or understanding than to express and accurately formulate what they actually enjoy, like or love and why. I believe it's also part of the modern times to quickly express what passes for an opinion than to actually take time to give it some thoughts and confront their preconceived ideas.
You know the overused expression "haters gonna hate" - in this case, it is relevant. Just pay negative people no mind and surround yourselves with folks who will bring out the best of you.
The rest is background noise and a genuine waste of time.
It's nothing to do with 'modern times'.
And this sort of whining is always a little entertaining when it's a near certainty that most on this page 'hate hip hop'.
Excellent video as always BMW. I'm proud to say that I have converted a few people to liking metal and yes, they were people who had never really listened to it.
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Hellripper is one of my favorite bands, so glad to see you mention them!
I was raised by my dad who was a boomer rocker, very into Chicago and the stones. I was raised to hate metal the irony is that my musical vocabulary was pre-disposed to be more open to it. I've been listening to Broadway and rock music since infancy. So I became musician. Being a musician made me so open to new sounds that I naturally fell in love with it much to my dads chagrin He mocks the vocals and down-tuning that's about it though he doesn't care about the imagery.
Solid point about the metal heads hating rap. I’ve heard way more than I care to say.
I hate rap.
A lot of metal fans certainly share the same type of criticism for a music genre. I always hear things like "rap is only about sex, drugs and partying".
Well mainstream rap usually is let’s be honest.
@@tiefighter3445 So is a lot of metal.
I feel like that's one of the biggest problems of most metalheads now a days tbh. They talk so much shit on other genres of music but get defensive when people don't like metal
4:10...😆😆😆...the time and effort you have to put in...kind of exceeds my LOVE of a French fry!!! ...ha! That's awesome.
So glad you recommended hell ripper fucking killer album if you don't like this album You're probably not a fan of heavy metal
100% agree with you on this.
The few people I have met that don't like metal have the most basic understanding of radio rock/metal and use that for their point of reference. They'll just see edgy and satanic where as everyone else actually know the bands we're talking about. It's the imagery that metal presents too. I've seen a few of those crappy reaction channels, one was this woman who was saying these bands are so violent after watching ONE Cannibal Corpse music video.
But it also goes for us too, a lot of us have a general disliking to country (modern country for me sucks), rap, pop, etc.. I am somewhat informed when it comes to the genres I don't like but I could see where they're coming from.
If we're being fair, we'll have to admit that metal really doesn't make itself very easy for "normies" to like - that's part of its appeal for many of us - while as time goes on, metal pushes itself to further and further extremes distant from the pop music norm.
I mean, consider the ways that metal has evolved over the decades: early metal was practically indistinguishable from more radio-friendly rock, with bands like AC/DC, Blue Oyster Cult, Led Zeppelin, KISS, and Van Halen straddling or crossing the line and being a regular part radio rock playlists in their time, and even today appear under the catch-all category of "classic rock", even thought they had a number of songs between them that wouldn't have sounded out of place alongside Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Saxon, and the like... and even Black Sabbath sounds more like "normal" classic rock than the music that appeared in the wake of punk and metal crossing over each other's genres into what would become thrash, death, black, industrial, and gothic metal, driving metal into directions that many fans of classic punk and metal might barely recognize as music, had they suddenly discovered, say, Napalm Death, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Mrobid Angel, Darkthrone, Cradle of Filth, or whatever via time-warp to the 1970s!
For anyone used to what passes for pop music today - that autotuned R&B dance stuff - the now ubiquitous heavy metal growls and shrieks alone are a gigantic hurdle to clear before they can even give the music a chance. Even the instrumentation is strange and harsh - buzzsaw guitars, thundering drums, etc..... And that's before you even begin to get into the bizarre costumes and imagery, the absolutely alien subject matter (the average pop song about insipid and obsessive sex and teen crushes finds no real parallel in metal's tendency toward songs about history, politics, religion, philosophy, the occult, fantasy and science fiction, etc.!), the weird song structures, the emphasis on a gloomy and anxious minor key sound palette (vs. pop's tendency toward major key), the use of strange jazz chords and exotic note scales, song lengths that fall short of or (more often) exceed a radio-friendly three or four minutes, an so on.... Put all of the different ways that metal says "don't like me!' together, and it's a wonder that metal gets any new fans at all!
Ithink a lot of us who have listened to metal for decades have forgotten what this music must sound like to anyone who isn't used to it, and maybe a lot of us don't quite realize anymore (if we ever did) just how much of an investment of our willingness to give metal a fair chance it took for us to embrace those weird vocals, strange noises, goofy costumes, odd musical decisions, alien influences, morbid subject matter, and so on, before the whole thing 'clicked' and we got it... many of us who were around since the '70s and '80s got into this thing gradually, moving across the spectrum from harder rock styles like psychedelic, shock rock, hard rock, prog rock, punk rock, goth rock, New Wave, original heavy metal, and so on, into NWoBHM and speed metal, then thrash, and on and on until extreme metal just seemed like another sort of rock music to us.
For those "normies" who never grew up on actual rock music, let alone had the benefit of working their way through 50 years or more of rock's gradual evolution into the metal we know and love today, a cold jump into modern metal must be quite an extreme shock: an extreme sensory overload of unfamiliar and jarring things that have no parallel in more popular music today!
Meanwhile, metal shooed out all the clowns a long time ago: metal ballads, hair metal's party songs and pop-style love songs, the occasional dabbling in popular styles like disco and so on, the all-but-extinct shock-rock or metal novelty songs (you can still find that sort of thing on the occasional retro-thrash metal albums, but it's getting rarer), and so on - all things that might break up metal's usual doom-and-gloom with a little accessible sunlight - are pretty far out of fashion today.
Add to metal's self-conscious efforts not to be liked by normal people, the fact that metal even today still struggles with a decades-old stigma and stereotype as simplistic and talentless caveman noises that will somehow make normal people drop out of school, do drugs, sacrifice animals, kill themselves, become misogynistic racist homophobes, and grow up into sociopathic man-children with no jobs or friends, and it's readily clear that metal has a gigantic P.R. problem to deal with, before getting any "normie" to passively listen to it by accident, let alone try to give it half a chance! It's something most people have to be predisposed toward ignoring or embracing before they'll even try to listen to metal and decide whether they like it.
After all, most of us who do like this music, like it in spite of the stigma, or even because of it - the bad reputation surrounding metal is for us a feature, not a bug - but try convincing "normies" who want no part of that reputation of the charms of a style of music that has outsiders convinced you are an unpopular, sociopathic, angry, depressed, suicidal ghoul!
I have just started a channel myself and this subject is one of those I would like to tackle in the coming weeks/months. To add to what you said, one has to understand that in general metalheads (being a minority culture) tend to be more passionate towards their love for Metal and therefore anyone who attacks their love, will most probably get an aggressive reply since they hold Metal very close to their heart and they have suffered due to them being into Metal in the first place.
Aye, new black metal werewolf video, fuck yea
Honestly. You are an amazing philosopher Maclean.
been listening to metal since 5 years old, i’m 18 now
my friend, i think that it would be amazing to see you on twitch \m/
Some people love tomatoes, some people hate tomatoes....I really think it's that's simple. Some people hate tomatoes without giving them a chance.
(My coworkers hate metal for the most part they love pop music and I cannot stand it)
Me too man
Me too I despise pop music.
@@janetsalazar-krom4409 U know good pop music exists right? It's not all Top 40 music.. 80s Pop for example or City Pop.
I don't hate pop music and I actually love a huge variety of music, including metal. I will say that pop music has definitely seen better days though
I think the main difference is that metal heads tend to keep their distaste for other genres to themselves (as most people do when it comes to most genres). But everyone feels comfortable and entitled to shit on metal very openly and very publicly without thinking twice if it might be inelegant or hurt someone
House Of Thousand Corpses, The Devils Rejects, Three From Hell and arguably 2007's Halloween are all fantastic movies.
You had me at thrashy when you recommended Hellripper 🤘🏼
Hell rippers Affairs of the poisons is a killer album! Life is to short for hate having a positiv outlook on life will serve you better in my opinion!
I absolutely agree. Those who hate metal have barely heard any of it. Sure, there's the extreme metal growls that some won't like, but to just shun the entire genre of metal is ridiculous!
You made a good point about radio play/ exposure. I admit to saying "I hate rap" more than I should but it's literally everywhere and I can honestly say its no good. The normies embrace that though.
I dont think people that "hate "metal have ever listened to it. Also I know metalheads are annoyed at pop rap and country because they hear it all the time same crap over and over . So I agree with you
I love your channel bro!
In my life, I never clicked so fast!
Been watching for 3 years now 💙
Been watching since 2015
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Same!!
I have a friend who was brought up extremely conservative and was well... more or less told what to think. And one day they told me that heavy metal was all noise and that they used to date someone who was into metal. Eventually I told them "Listen to Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden. Then we'll talk "
Even though I don't like it when people are judgmental about genres such as rock or metal, at least not all of them say: *gasp!* "You like that type of music? You're a bad person!" Now that gets under my skin
To like something or to dislike something is subjective. Hence every reason why you like something or to hate something. Will always be a reasonable statement. To get to the bottom of this rabbit hole. Is a fruitless endeavor.
Watching this channel as I’ve been getting into metal over the past 2ish months has been great
Yep
My wife hates metal, living with me she has definitely heard it and she definitely hates it.
6:48...that's a great point too...(I know I'm commenting a lot) ...but yes I'm familiar with a lot of other music styles...like on jobs, Country, or my dad loved classical, I had to go to church growing up so I know church music, I've listened to Pop, even bought some Pop CDs and country CDs ...r&b ...all kinds of stuff. But in the end I like Metal and Metal sub genres and Metal hybrid genres the best. 👍
It would be really awesome to see you try something new on your channel , maybe some top tens , maybe something like a weekly or monthy video where you talk about the latest news in the metal scene ...
There are already enough channels like that. I enjoy BMW since he's straight to the point and doesn't post typical repetitive content.
Your shirt looks awesome!!
Some people simply can't handle a lot of loud notes and the others are ignorant and never dig deeper.
My other favorite music genre is EDM (Electronic Dance Music and some of its sub categories) I'm really big into The Prodigy for example. I know a lot of metal heads dislike it, but its the complexity of different samples and sounds that can be taken and created and mixed to form a cool beat is what makes it enjoyable to me. It does take a level of skill to do from scratch. If you get to be a pro at it you can work as a sound engineer, producer and more. Useful stuff for resumes lol
I do listen to some hip-hop and rap still, however I'm very picky. Some mainstream "rap" today only has 8 or less words max in it. You're only listening to the track for the beat the producer created and not the artist who's dropping "fire" 🔥 bars lmao
I'm aware crossover metal and grindcore/goregrind has little to no words in the lyrics sometimes and the songs can be really short, but that isn't the point. These few "rappers" are putting in no effort, they don't help make the beat either so they're useless as musicians. Only useful to the record companies that make bread off them. When they are put on the spot to actually rap outside the studio they fall apart lol
omg yesss lol a lot of modern rap is trash
In middle school I took the school bus. One of the bus drivers played exclusively Christian radio, the others played standard shitty radio. I hated it. Fortunately my dad had Marching out, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, Somewhere In Time and Powerslave on iTunes, to which I added The Book of Souls, Piece of Mind, The Number of the Beast, and Brave New World. When my parents bought an Apple Music subscription I downloaded Slayer's entire discography.
Now my family must live with the fact that they allowed me to buy a turntable and stereo.
I feel bad it's been awhile since I seen your videos. I missed that Wickedness
Then watch them more....
well said! i think its a good idea to keep in mind "normie friendly" songs to recommend people. i have a friend who mostly listens to pop, and she listened to mirror reaper after i talked about it and she really liked it... not that that's my go-to recommendation, for a couple obvious reasons lol
Wow, from pop to Mirror Reaper. That's a pretty surprising jump. Funeral doom is not a genre I would think a pop fan would gravitate towards.
I like how you explained this.
I used to be the guy who said I hate metal, then I started listening to it and I realized I actually really liked it. it's just blind hatred, I totally agree with the idea that metal is sort of subconsciously taught to be disliked to kids. it took me only a couple of weeks to realize how much I liked it once I actually started to listen to it
I love this channel
Me too.
Hellripper from my native Scotland!
To be honest, I met and saw countless people who actually hate metal even with hearing metal or rock. "Oh HoW cAn ANyboDy LisTen To THis ??" they ask. Always.
I see smug, cringeing faces of disgust when people hear metal or rock song and then loudly exclaim "This is not my thing! I don't know who can actually listen to this." They sometimes belittle you and look down upon you, because "HoW cAn ANyboDy LisTen To THis ??"
I'm so tired of seeing this, at least in my country. I'm so tired of people thinking that they are so much better then me and other metal lovers, just because they deem metal low. Then they turn around enjoy freaking Beyonce or anything that's on Eurovision (though there had been a few solid rock songs in past years and I saw lots of hate on those songs precisely from the usual Eurovision type of song lovers).
Pathetic. Metal is usually dark sounding, deep, harmonic melodies with heaviness and strength on them. Casuals simply cannot stand anything that they deem "negative". They hate minor key, they hate heaviness, they hate harmonies and darker lyrical themes. They love rainbows and clouds and unicorns... Because enjoying something darker and stronger requires sitting down and thinking, while many casuals simply don't try to achieve that.
Reminds me of the times in the car with my ex. He hated metal but loved butt rock. He said most metal was the same 3 cords because he played music and would know. It was very annoying.
Nile ain't just 3 cords
And I've tried playing it
I've had so many experiences of people trashing rock music in general, and people definitely distance themselves from metal.
I think you previoulsy covered a similar topic and I commented about a co-worker that stated that she "liked a bit of everything apart from metal because it's just screaming". A few weeks later, shortly after Chester Bennington's death, we were basically having an office party and someone put Linkin Park on the playlist. Then she said something like "I was in tears when I heard Chester died, he was my favourite singer, I even liked his screams". I was face-palming at the hypocrisy.
I have a friend that mainly listened to Pop and Indie rock, and was quite negative towards metal. I later found out one of his favourite bands was System of a Down. I think some people think about the perceived negative reputation of the genre, so distance themselves from it; which then just perpetuates it.
After a social event at a nightclub, someone asked me why I hadn't been dancing/singing along with everyone else. I said it wasn't my scene, but referenced I was into rock and metal. She then said she understood, but that style of music was definitely not her thing. I looked at her confused because the club did play a few rock songs like AC/DC, Guns and Roses, and The Killers - and these songs were ones that got the biggest reaction from her. I think people often ignore the "rock" part when you say "rock and metal", and just focus on the "metal"; then falsely believe there's no crossover between your music tastes.
I think even metalheads “hate” (probably not hatred... too strong) some forms of metal or some bands. I find metalheads can often at least explain why a particular sub genre isn’t their cup of tea. People outside the genre often can’t go much beyond the usual complaints about the harsh vocals. I think why there are so many “haters” is because the more extreme sub genres are very much an acquired taste. The path for for someone to go from listening to something outside of metal... say Duran Duran or Drake... to acquiring a taste for a band such as Drudkh or Darkthrone is not going to happen quickly. Too many little steps up the metal mountain for most people to appreciate those metal bands.
My wife is not a fan of what I normally listen to, like Belphegor, Watain, Dying Fetus, etc... but she is ok with stuff like KSE or Lamb of God and a lot of hardcore bands. She mostly listens to pop and stuff, I can’t fault someone for not being into the more extreme stuff I listen to.
The Rob Zombie movies are awesome!! 🖤🖤
Yeah they are
Nope. LOL
My friends all dislike it, but at least they aren't bitches about it. Hard to find another girl who likes it as much as I do around here.
I dont know why but I love the song in the intro
So many times I’ve heard the “I can’t stand metal” declaration and after I’ve showed them certain examples of what metal can be, they’re just amazed. So yeah, they usually base their opinion on just a couple of songs they’ve heard for 2 minutes or may be what everybody says.
IF SOMEONE SAYS THIS I TAKE THEM TO A SHOW
1:14... Absolutely. I've experienced this so much in my life. I got into Metal in high school about when Iron Maiden released Number of the Beast.
There's a popular idea to bash Metal. At that time there were people who knew nothing about Metal and would talk like they had knowledge about it.
It's the same today, only now the old Metal has become an acceptable art form by most people and the newer stuff gets criticized.
I have an opinionated friend that will go to all the stereotype answers in conversation. ... he'll say country is relaxing, things like that and he'll criticize Metal without having a frame of reference to draw from. I'll make specific reference but he has no idea who it is. One day he was riding with me and I was humming lyrics to Black number one and he's like what? I'm like yeah, type 0 ...and he's like, never heard of it ...so, something from thirty years ago that is history to people who listen to it, he doesn't know it.
Thanks great vid.
In general these people want to uplift themselfs by hating on something, they want to sound clever and have something to say about everything. Well... how can you be better than someone who has exposed himself to more stuff than you? In your mind how is it uplifting to not let people enjoy other stuff than you? Grow up my sweet adult baby, we have brocoli for dinner today not attention.
I love metal and french fries and pickles.
Nice Carpathian Forest banner! Wondering if I made that...
I didn’t think I would like metal because of the stigma around it ( it’s Satanic, it’s for crazy people only) and the fact I thought it would be bad for my anxiety and anger issues weirdly enough. When I met a metal chick at work in 2016 that all changed she showed me King Diamond and Iron Maiden and my jaw hit the floor. I grew up around the era of Nu Metal and thought that was what metal was suppose to sound like so I was totally surprised it could sound that amazing. I started listening to lots of different bands and stuck with what I liked first then expanded my tastes to like all kinds of metal now. If your able to find metal on your own that’s great but it’s awesome when you can meet someone that changes your perceptions too.
Most people that I know don't like metal but if I ask why they can't answer. My daughter's boyfriend is not a metal head but he listened to some songs of different bands and he actually was surprised. He had no idea it wasn't that bad...
most people have a filter when they hear harsh vocals that they immediately disregard every other musical aspect in a song and assume it's noise that doesn't go together, some people you just can't win but occasionally they'll overhear the right song and it will click or they will at least see the musicality in a song but overall it's my music for my ears, I won't force it.
Hey, first time im checking out your channel and I have to say thats a great display of flags. CF, Darkthrone, fucking Panzer Division Marduk, good shit man, good taste
I always tell em "you dont hate it, you're just scared of metal"! The main-streamers have always shoved metal into bottom claiming it was awful, it sucked, when really metal artists are some of the most musically talented people to exist. The only genre I really dont care for is country.
Interesting this posted so close to the news with the abusive claims against Marilyn Manson. Great points!
Well said dude!!!
Same applies to Metal fans who won't listen to other genre's of music.
So what? People can listen to one genre if they want to. Grow up.
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I love that Slayer shirt
I am a metalhead who enjoys a bunch of other music like old school rap, grindcore, electro, new wave, synthpop, jazz, classical, prog rock, post-punk, folk, funk, 60's garage rock, etc. The only genres I am not able liking is country and K-pop, I really tried my best listening to these but this is not my cup of tea. I understand where people come from when they say they don't like metal, it is not a popular music played at radio, TV, also they don't know there's a bunch of subgenres. They must not have people enjoying metal around them.
I like most of the genres of music, metal can be my favourite but i don´t hate others.
I listen to almost exclusively metal but there are a variety of reasons for people to not like it. Vocals are a big thing for people I know who don't like it.
I agree with your perspective that metal heads are kind of force-fed mainstream music. You can't walk into a store, turn in the TV, turn on the radio, etc without getting an injection of shit you don't like. And I agree that metal isn't baked into society like pop, country, and hip hop. But that doesn't seem to play a huge role in my experience.
However, in my experience, I've never really had people say they hate it for nonsensical reasons unless they're trolling because we are friends and they're just looking to talk shit. They pretty much always bring up the vocals and say, they could get into the music itself if not for the vocals. And this doesn't just apply to death growls and black metal vocals. Power metal and thrash metal often times have vocals that require and acquired taste. My wife doesn't like Iron Maiden because of the vocals.
That's just my perspective and what I've encountered.
I would suggest they try different bands or maybe different subgenres of Metal. Like JRock/JPop listeners may be interested in Symphonic/ Melodic / or Power Metal, more than doom or black metal. Uses that as a example since that applied to me. There are a few subgenre's that I've been able to get into and enjoy and some that I just can't get into like black metal. (and I have tried several different bands). Think it could be more of a pacing or beats per min type of thing, since not due to being unable understanding the band/singer isn't the issue, nor is it due to any "satanish" lyrics.
Number 1 reason anyone I've encountered dislikes or hates metal is the harsh vocals. Number 2 reason is probably the intensity and speed which they can't "dance" to. Both of those reasons are totally understandable to me and is why when the conversation comes up at work I don't go out of my way to defend Metal anymore, just shrug it off, life's too short for elitism and intolerance.
Coming from a strongly Evangelical Fundamentalist family I heard all the usual reasons: "it's Satanic, it's of the devil, it's intended to corrupt people." Of course they used the examples of bands that actually mentioned the devil/satan in lyrics, or sang about violent things. I've heard other people say "Oh, it's just a bunch of screaming and noise;" and, point, I don't personally care for what I refer to as "Scream Metal": gimme some thoughtful lyrics and a catchy melody plz. I've heard "Oh, it's just the same thing they sing about over and over." When I pressed for specifics the answer was usually "death/dying" and I was like "Ok, you don't like Death Metal, I don't really either. What other metal have you listened to?" Blank stares. So, there's a lot of anecdotal stuff that people morph into "opinions" without ever bothering to do any first-person investigating.
I think that most people just don't understand metal, and too many of them think that its all about Satan and demons and shit. But yeah, it is slightly irritating when assholes are too narrow minded to give it a chance. But on the positive side, things would be boring if we all liked metal.
Where I come from, I enjoy being one of the "different ones", because the rest of them are all the same.
Suits me just fine 😁
you want to know how true this is?
I hated on metal before I was a lover
Wow Metal is such a big topic 😯 there is so much to talk about I never knew that when I entered the Metal community ohh and in Germany they only play some Linkin Park in the Radio and it’s labeled as » Heavy music « . Some of my family members are judging Metal for no reason and I always argue with them it sucks
The most of the people that I know who say they hate Metal music they have never listened to Metal. There are also people who secretly like Metal music and culture and they never say that they like it.
I have noticed that people who have listened to Metal and they didn't like it they just say that they don't like it and the conversation ends there.
Anyway! Everyone of us has to respect other people's musical tastes and culture.
🤘 STAY BRUTAL!🤘
My gangster friends hated it so much. Then one-day they heard system of a down and started accepting it alittle more lol
They don't hate it if you show them most of the NWOBHM. Angel Witch, Crucifixion, and Witchfynde are very easy to get down to.
In all honesty, I think that there isn't enough exposure for rock, metal etc. Why is that? If more people got to listen to a wide variety of music on TV, Radio then peoples opinions might change and they might then go online to discover more.
He is right ha🥰
I think most people who claim to hate metal are just unaware of how diverse metal has become. They might have heard something super fast or super brutal and then they believe all metal is like that, or they think everything sounds like Maiden or Priest, or they think every metal and is all about satan when in fact there is this whole spectrum from melodic and catchy to the most brutal stuff you can think of and everything in between.
honestly, i don't think most people who dislike metal can name 3 bands that are actually metal. a lot of them don't realise not all metal uses gutteral vocals of some sort. so when i walt in and tell someone i mostly listen to power, symphonic and prog metal with some folk and modern metal in there and they are like "oh you listen to Metallica" or make some attempts at a growl, they just come across as ignorant.
People judge what they don't understand
i started listening to this guy doinig a one man project and hes only got like 150 monthly listeners on spotify and in the about section it was saying how the project at first was to release his iner emotions and handle his feelings. he then said that depression and selfhatred started to take control of his mind and by making music it helped. most people like some of my friends who dont listen to metal hear that one band is satanic or something like that and use that for every other metal band they listen to but in reality they should look at bands/ projects like this guy who do it to help with mental problems annd that sort of thing. (if anyone was wondering, the guy is suizid on spotify)
..People that may claim hate metal ...the main reason is that is loud and distorted so they dont get it the first time !!! but little by little anybody can get into it .. is like EVERYBODY had listened to Chop Suey for godsakes !!...and EVERYBODY likes it !! ...it is a metal based track with all its genres variations on it...so in the end ALL WE HAVE a little metal head in our brains ..
I no lie got this as a response to saying that I was in the metal back in 2008. This is a bit of a spine chiller because it's starting to come true now. I hate metal, because it's a speaker killer, and we're running out of usable radios. I believe the guy about the speaker killer part but I pretty much ridiculed him about running out of usable radios if I ever see him again I will apologize.
I love your slayer t shirt I have one to 😎😁🤘
I used to hang out with non-metal heads back in highschool. They were wearing baggy clothes back in the early 2000s and I was wearing denim jacket, tight jeans and long hair. Haha! They didn't hate. Haha
I love metal the heavier that it is I love it . And love classic country music as well