Automatic to Manual Transmission Swaps, Is It Worth It?
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- I get asked quite a bit about automatic to manual transmission swaps. Let’s face it, manual transmissions are more fun to drive. However, I think many people aren’t taking into consideration all of the time, money, and effort that would go into an automatic to manual swap. That’s why I made this video.
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Scotty Kilmer has the easiest way to turn an auto to a manual, sell the auto and buy a manual.
and he's right lol
I believe that's exactly what I said in the video. ;)
@@ETCG1 That IS what you said, probably never got that far into the video before commenting.
Thats pretty much the best advise. Small issue with it though. 90 percent of cars sold are automatic. Manual versions of cars are increasing difficult to find. I want a e90-92 bmw 335i. I can find 10 automatics for every one manual transmissions.
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You won’t stop me from achieving my dreams
Some dumb idiot converted my 1989 foxbody gt mustang into a 4 speed automatic. Got rid of the manual.
@@tebibyte2357 what an idiot
@@tebibyte2357 before you got it?
@@goosey4840 Yeah and it sucks. It sounds like it's a CVT lol. Will do the T5 swap soon.
@@tebibyte2357 can you atleast drag race it bc the transmission
Good point. I converted an '83 Suburban from a 700R4 to a Saginaw 4. I did it in my garage and it was VERY labor intensive. Replacing the pedal box, relocating the cross member, setting up the clutch master and slave as the mechanical linkage wouldn't work, lengthening the driveshaft. I probably ended up with spending 6 months on a project truck that didn't have a computer that barely fit in my garage. But, it was really cool to have the only 4 speed Suburban that I had ever seen.
Swap the automatic to a manual and the manual to an automatic.
Should save you a fortune doing it
Manual to auto is a ton more work as you have to swap every associated computer and harness over. It's not a swap I would ever attempt. I've done auto to manual which as worked out well.
Or sell the automatic and buy a manual and sell the manual and buy a automatic.
Pull the bodies off, and swap the two.... ;-)
@@markmooney4770 that would work for everything except the roof and rear quarter panels as they're part of the structure of the car so the only thing gained is a different front end and doors, nothing gained in the frame or structural parts of the car. So if the reason for the swap is rust you've still got rust
i own a 350z with an automatic transmission, i wanna swap it because i feel like people can think it's a cool car from the outside but when they see it's an auto...all their thoughts just become negative, mostly here in mexico, almost everybody drives a manual and having a sporty auto car just feels like everybody judges me everytime, also because is more fun to drive and maybe do a little drift with it
The Parking sensor on my Auto car broke so the car doesnt know when it is in the P gear. When I cold start the car instead of it idling high it idles high then quickly drops the RPM down right away. I realised that this was the Auto gear box telling my engine it isnt in P anymore so it has to lower the RPM to put it in gear even though it wasnt.
So basically you are 100% right about the computer being different in Auto cars. Very interesting!
Great points Eric I would agree you. Save the transmission swaps for the older cars.
My coworker had his 95 Lincoln converted from auto to manual. It was worth it for him because Lincoln didn’t make manuals. Turned out really good.
Eric is correct though. “Is it worth it?”
Some cars are tougher than others . I did a 1998 rs 2.5 Subaru conversion. I found a wrecked car and it was pretty easy. Hardest thing was finding a gas tank as junk yards bust them.
I did a 91 crx. It was acually easy. the firewall hole for the shift cable is already there. The studs to mount the pedals...already there. The computer is a total plug and play deal
I would watch the shit out of a video series based on swapping an auto to a manual. Might not be the most economical (or sane) choice, but I could learn so much from it! I won't tell you what to put on your channel, but I think a lot of people will watch it. Either way, love your vids, keep up the good work!
I've swapped a few. lots of effort for minimal gain.
If the vehicle does not have a computer in it (say for instance a 1985 Ford F-150 with an Inline 6 cylinder) then swapping a manual is not ridiculously hard. But you have to find/swap in the pedal box, mounts, shifter, instrument cluster, and probably the most difficult part to find would be the Bell Housing.
I just got done swapping a automatic 99 Miata to manual. It wasn't just "change trans, pedals and go" like a lot of people think. It's also the driveshaft, power plant frame and some wiring that isn't exactly well documented. It took about a month working on the weekends to do it. In the end, the "no grinds, shifts smooth" manual trans I got grinds going into 5th and it idles weird. Was it worth it? For the most part, no lol but where I live, manual Miatas are actually kind of hard to find. For some reason, a lot of the Miatas here are auto. I have no idea how but they are.
Its sad, isnt it? Im not a Miata person per-se... But i get it. Its annoying to see sporty, fun to drive cars that are meant to be driven spiritedly and you look inside to find a soul-crushing auto lol.
Automatic Miatas? That is baffling... do you live in the Midwest by chance?
Not really a Miata guy, but did you swap ECUs? An auto trans ECU in a manual trans application often results in a high idle. The auto ECU is calibrated for the drag from having to spin the torque converter while stopped in drive, but you removed the drag.
@@robertbeachz31 yes I swapped ecus. I have a manual 99 10AE Miata that I swapped the manual ecu with the 99 auto. The 10AE is my racecar and never idled correctly to begin with because it's got almost everything deleted and has check engine codes galore so as long as it still ran I don't mind it. The swapped 99 idles fine and everything, only problem now is it has a common Miata problem known as "idle droop".
I just looked up this video because I just bought an 01 Miata that’s an automatic because the price was right and I wanted to find out if I could switch it. I’m already regretting buying it 😢
I certainly won’t be doing it. More power to those that want to.
It was worth it to me in my old BMW E24, made the car much more fun and the ZF 4HP22 has a design floor that causes it to eat it's clutch packs if left in neutral. Cost at a shop was less than rebuilding the auto properly and I don't regret it for a second.
I did that swap on my 93 probe gt. It's not easy but its not hard but it sure is fun and I'm going to do it again to my 95
Could not have said it better myself. Keep up the great work. I love your videos, and I 100% agree with you.
Completely agree with you. If you want a manual car, just go get one that is factory manual, unless you want it to be a project car which you'll be willing to build mostly from the ground up, like you did on the Fairmont.
I've done two auto to manual swaps in my life. The first was an 86 Cougar XR7. Built the little 302 and couldn't hold an auto trans at the track. Wasn't a bad swap, got a junkyard transmission and clutch pedal from a Tbird. The second was a 3rd gen V8 SHO. A little trickier, finally found a second gen Probe GT V6 shared the Duratec bellhousing so I took that 5 speed and got the clutch pedal assembly and shifter out of the same car and welded up some brackets and all swapped in no problem. Had to go back and get the speedometer plug off the other car and cut and solder in the new plug, only down side was it turned the CEL on because the computer wasn't seeing the transmission inputs anymore. Found a guy who did custom tunes for Lightning's and he was able to get into my computer and delete the auto transmission files and turn the light off. It was time consuming but worth it in my book. Those old Acuras shouldn't be bad to swap if you wanted to I know Honda guys do it all the time, and Acura is Honda's luxury brand, but mechanically they're almost identical. I wouldn't start messing with trying to swap computers and wiring harnesses though if you did. I'd just find someone to delete the files, even back then Acura had a lot of systems that may not be happy with a different computer.
I like the custom electrical tape shift knob on the blue vigor. 😁
It was sticky and gooey. The tape is better.
I did it back in 1978 on a 69 fury.
That was most likely worth it.
Swapped the auto trans out of my 93 Subaru legacy turbo for a manual.
Was fairly easy, trans, clutch assy, shifter, pedals, a bit of wiring tricks and its done.
Now to say it worth it on a much newer car. Likely not due to the amount of wiring and module communication you will have to deal with.
Would i swap a manual into another older car from the 90's and down. Yes yes i would if the car is any good.
I just wanna see dad's truck get the manual transmission that it was supposed to have and some tbi350 horsepower upgrades!
Depends on the car/situation. For instance, my 69 Rambler came with a 232 i6 and a BW air cooled 3sp auto. Lackluster performance and terrible highway RPM. Early bellhousing pattern doesn't allow a modern auto to bolt in. So, adapter plate and a T5 from a Mustang is in order. Then, I had to build a crossmember, cut a hole in the floor for a shifter and had to come up with a clutch linkage. Felt it took too much effort to go hydraulic and lucked out on a Z bar. And making pedals from a Hornet work turned out to be easy. I'm very pleased, but again, look at the vehicle and what little options I had to make it perform better. A newer car, like anything 1990-current... Don't see the advantage.
I understand the technicalities involved with swapping newer vehicles and older ones.
My question is, if I’m willing to put the time and money into converting an S10 into a drift truck. LQ4 upgrades suspension and transmission, tires, wheels blah blah.. should I seek a manual truck or can I keep the auto and have a shop get me into 5speed engine ECU implant tuning
The truck I have is mint shape very well taken care of so it’s hard to let go
I guess there are cases of certain cars where a manual transmission option simply doesn't exist (at least, in the US), manual trans models DO exist but they're extremely uncommon, or the weird, rare case where manual versions are around but the transmission it comes with just sucks. Those are a a few cases, aside from the obvious ones, where a swap/conversion could be justified.
I bought my great grandfathers truck doing an engine swap unless I can get it running right have one last Hail Mary to fixing it if not it becomes an engine swap transmission is failing anyway and I much much prefer stick to automatic so might be a few months from now but I love that truck and the memories in it it’s gonna happen and hopefully I get to show him
Ya i prefer my manuals actually looking into how much work and cost its going to be ti convert my 2023hd duramax to a manual and unsure what transmission is gonna work best etc i just dont know trying to do the research cause i love my truck but as a professional trucker learned on the 10spd i love it. Im disabled now unable to drive semi trucks so reason im lookong to convert
Thanks Eric I wondered about this,I think that in the old days this was O.K but not with modern cars, I am totally convinced thanks to you; Much appreciated.
First video I've ever seen from you guys. It also just so happens to be my birthday so cheers. Easy sub.
Brake Drum to Disk isn't going to fix your brake pedal feel.
I found that my proportioning valve leaks whenever i have the proportioning valve tool on there to bleed the brakes. Replacing that gave me my rear brakes again. $600 in brake parts later.
holy crap this guy knew it was my birthday
You got a point, I was thinking of swapping my civic to a manual, thinking ill just wait and find a better car to work on thats manual, for now I'm happy with the civic 8 have
This video makes sense but people who even THINK of doing the swap aren't normal (I'm in the middle of converting my 1999 v6 camaro right now) 👍
Depends on the car & your mechanical abilities. I would much rather manual swap a clean unmolested chassis than deal with a beat up molested manual car. That being said generally speaking if a car came in manual and automatic, and it's a production car. A auto to manual swap is easy. Ive done it to a 99 civic and I would definitely do it again. Ridiculously easy and totally worth it
So here’s a question. How far back do you call cars “modern”. In example my 1991 ford bronco it was a generally simple job with a few minor hang ups. Basically plug and play for all of it.
Bisimoto has a 1029 HP Honda Odyssey with a 6 speed manual that’s why we want to do it
You also have to change the flywheel and the trans crossmember. It’s a ton of work. Better to buy a manual transmission if that is what you want. Installing the clutch pedal and running the cables are not easy either. Good vid.
~Eric why don’t you just switch the automatic to a manual~
He made a video on this: th-cam.com/video/1csJbTOWdhk/w-d-xo.html
Haha, but we watch you take engines out in a matter of minutes!!! Keep up the good work man. Maybe doing a manual swap in the future to show us the amount of work that does go into it.
IMO, ATX to MTX is only worthwhile if you are an enthusiast, know how to do it, and are dealing with a dead or drying ATX. 88-00 civics and 90-02 accords are not too bad, you can re-use the auto part of the engine harness for your reverse and clutch switch hookups to make wiring easy, and epoxy and tin can solve the gaping hole issues, but to make it clean, welding and grinding is required. I've done it a few times, had some fun, learned some new curse words, and further affirmed my opinion of sell and buy a MTX. junkyards and parts cars are your friends!
I agree, except those 1998-2002 accord automatics...blehck.
They still give me shivers.
@@123clis321 The v6 auto's were the issue, not all of them. The v6-autotragic was avoidable if religious about fluid changes. Or just checked out the performance of the sensors/solenoids to catch issues early on.
I swapped my Dakota to a manual a few years ago. Got away with running the stock wiring harness and just throwing in a manual ECU (actually I ran it on the auto ecu for a while, just had a CEL on for some solenoids and sensors that no longer existed). In my case it was actually cheaper to go this route, I have less than $1000 in my manual swap, a rebuild of the crappy auto that was in the truck would have been more than double that. That being said, it's a very involved and time consuming project, and one I probably wouldn't tackle again unless it was on something I really wanted and couldn't get with a manual here.
To me it depends on the car you're doing it to. Example, I'm currently building a r34 skyline sedan, non turbo auto. One of the first things I'm doing is converting it to manual, why? Because it's a freaking skyline, they're (in my head) not meant to be an auto, they're a car guys car and we all love manual, so I'm in my eyes making something be what it should have been in 1998. Also I plan on keeping the car for a very long time
I've done it a few times... Absolutely nothing you're saying is wrong. But if you have the ability to tune the PCM and do all kinds of stuff that are just outside the range of what a regular mechanic does... There's nothing difficult about it either.
There can be a lot of gotchas... But if you do your research first it's pretty straightforward most of the time... It's very rare you're making new ground on something like this.
When 25 y/o manual mk4 supras are selling for same price as brand new s63 amg merc, getting an auto supra swaping trans and flipping it may be worthwhile. For other cars that dont have 5x price difference depending on trans, nope
I got a 1984 S10 truck that has no computer, has a carb and a manual fuel pump, it's got an old type automatic and I wanna put a manual, it's not modern or computerised so I don't think it would be to hard on an older model
Thanks for sharing, looking forward to see what happens with the truck!
I'm more surprised that you still have the black mustang than anything. I guess it's a pretty good parts storage bin huh?
For now it is. After I finish my other projects I'll revisit it most likely.
It was my birthday yesterday, so thank you!!
if they both have the same model and color... i'll just exchange the license plate... and it's done! i can close this job with "BE SAFE, HAVE FUN & STAY DIRTY." without doing the hard work!
But good luck finding a G25 manual. Those vigors are super hard to come by, let alone in 5 speed.
hi there my friend have a 2004 xterra 3.3 v6 manual the engine was bad he put one from an automatic nissan xterra 3.3 v6 now the engine crank but no start
3:43 what if the car has sentimental value. I almost lost my brother 3 years ago. But he decided to leave the state to the next one over. But the nissan cvt transmission sucks. I got the tools knowledge, mechanics and experience. It's not my first rodeo. Lol. My brother bought it auto transmission from mexico. Lol but it's been good to me. I just messed up applying alot of torque. So I'm over it and rather replace clutches over transmission. Plus it's fwd not awd or rwd.
Yeah I have a 1994 dodge dakota that has a slipping automatic in it #dodgelife and Ill be doing a manual swap on it. Only problem is that the only direct replacement is the nv3500 witch isnt a bad transmission but its not ideal for my plans. They say i can put a t56 from a viper in it but im going from a $300 transmission to a $3000 one lol. So thats another thing people need to look at. What parts are available and do they fit your needs. I am also in the process of swapping in a l28et into my datsun 280zx and even though the l28e and l28et are extremely similar, the electronics are very different so i had to go with an aftermarket ecu
This my first video I watched and I watched in on my bday what a coincidence hahaha
Foolish? Maybe. Epic? Hell yes.
Where can I find a manual family car with 7 seats without swapping it?
I guess this is why, if someone does this, maybe they're trading the whole engine/computer assembly too. Boy, you'd really have to want to keep that exact body badly, huh?
I want to put my charger srt into a manual but chargers only come in automatic, so my best idea is to grab parts off a challenger that has been wrecked or comething since for the most part are the same car. swaping the ecu and getting it programed is the most challenging thing, i would think since the body is simular to the challenger, any thoughts?
Hi,
My acura has both, automatic and 5 speed.
With should use in town?
Or on the freeway?
How about in the mountains?
How do you determine what cars it’s safe on and what cars it’s not worth it?
if it's a rare old & cool sportscar like from 90's then YES it's worth it! otherwise NO it's not...also considered is body condition of course tho. standard car from north (for example) & southern auto car (great body) but same make/model would make sense to combine if $$$ allows.
My engine blew on my 1995 celica its automatic and there selling me a whole project 1995 celica manual could i just used all the parts from the manual into the automatic???
Trying to figure out how or if it’s possible to manual swap a 2004 Saturn Vue AWD V6 (it’s an automatic right now)
What’s the deal with the foxbody? Would you consider selling it?
if my cars 29+ years old do you think it’d be easier to manual swap
or if you prefer something harder... try hard to convince the owners to exchange cars. BEST SUGGESTION
What about a mid-90s Honda?
would getting the stock manual transmission that came with the car and the stock ecu make it any easier?
I think it's worth it if the auto is an old model without a lockup torque converter or overdrive. Otherwise, not worth it unless you're gaining something significant like granny low, etc. Most modern standards having internal slave cylinders is another reason to NOT swap.
Hey Eric, I have a little rare 1993 Honda Civic coupe (EJ2) I am planning on doing a whole engine and transmission swap to a B16 DOHC Vtec and using the original transmission (5 speed) that comes with the engine and harness ecu etc. My car sadly is automatic (they are hard to find and I can never find listings for the EJ1 or EJ2 manual) would it still be worth it? Since I'm overhauling this as a project? Let me know and thank you.
if you have an auto car an want a manual look for one that needs say an engine you can buy those really cheep an just swap over the engine an interior if needed to the manual car
You might want to watch the video.
I did and that's what ive done in the past I have a car that has an auto I find a manual car with a dead engine for say $250 to $500 swap the engine an other goods to the manual car some cars its as simple as changing transmission harness from auto to manual or just a loop wire in the trans harness I have a 08 p71 manual swapped it had an auto they never came factory manual
also you can tune the transmission out of the ecm in modern cars/trucks
What about in a car from 1999 or 2005?
hello hie i have a slk 230 1998 just want to know if i can change it to auto to manual transmission thanks
Eric what about manual swapped p71 crown vic?
I have a 1980 k10 that I have already started rebuilding, so...I'm not gonna buy another with a manual.
I wanna do it to my 2001 Isuzu vehicross
Would it be easier to do an engine swap?
I want to see a 4x4 conversion on an old dodge van.
I swapped my 06 ram with a Cummins and and auto to a 6 spd manual. It’s fairly easy but it’s not financially smart unless you can get a donor vehicle with everything you need
What’re your thoughts on switching a ford toploader into a 1968 mustang 302? I’m thinking about getting the both of them cheap as a project but would switching the transmissions be more effort than it’s worth? I mostly ask cause I know older cars with automatics lack a lot of pep that manual gives them, or at least that’s what I’ve heard
Paint the blue car red and just tell everyone you did it.
Keen eyed viewers will realize my red one has a sunroof, the blue one does not. I like this thinking though.
And paint the red car blue.
You have a cutoff wheel, don't you?
body swap.
🤣😂😁
I’m depressed after watching video.
Me too 😔
Same here pal
Don't be sad boys and girl there are option
Same
It's not as hard as he's making it out to be unless it's like a new car if it's a new car it's a nightmare anything made after 2010 is a nightmare
I own a 92 Subaru SVX, which infamously only came in automatic. Also the transmission is made of balsa wood and glass so a manual swap is an inevitably when it dies, the car is rare enough that it's absolutely worth swapping if the need arises.
[I'm cheating though, this car is an extreme edge case for this specific topic.]
Is it the turbo model?
I also own a Subaru SVX and I agree, a manual swap is something that crosses the mind of the owner of oneof these cars. They only made them in auto but from my understanding, they carried over many of the design features to the later STI's. The automatic 4 speed auto that come stock in the SVX are not up to snuff for the stock H6 torque and many people end up having to replace them anyway. For cars like this, I feel like it is 50/50. Since they are so rare, you are going to have the pureists that will say keep it stock and collectable. The enthusiasts will say to slap a manual and turbo and have the instant race car. However, it's never that simple. After doing much research, I'd be looking at putting close to 10k doing the swap in a car I paid 2000 for. Is it really worth it? If the auto transmission fails on me, I might look at the possibility at that point because I love the car and it would be worth it to me at that point. But don't fix what's not broken. That's my take on it.
Those early SVX transmissions were terrible. What did they expect using the same transmission that was in an imprezza and other lower power lighter cars of the Subaru lineup. I killed one of those transmissions in a 96 Outback. Luckily Subaru parts are highly interchangeable and easy to find. Now if I could only find a SVX.
Thankfully, Subaru has engineered their cars with interchangeably in mind. However, the SVX was such a departure from anything else they ever made. They only came in auto and NA engine as it was designed as a luxury touring coupe. It's a heavy beast with a slosh box transmission. Even with the pitiful automatic that's in the SVX, it is still such a fun car to drive. I have seen an SVX that had a manual swapped in from a WRX but even those transmissions aren't up to the task of handling the torque that the SVX motor puts out. Now, it might be beneficial to buy one that has already had the swap done but I am cautious about these because you really don't know what kind of corners have been cut to make that swap possible. If you can find one with a swap for a good price, it might be worth picking one up with the mindset that they have already done half the work. I say this because of the transmissions they have available really need some internal beefing. An STI trans could theoretically be up to task but if you go for any more power on the engine side of things, it will most definitely fail. These are all things to keep in mind when considering doing these sorts of modifications. My advice would be to come up with a realistic plan or goal for your car and do plenty of research. You might find out that doing a swap like these is just not worth it at the end of the day.
To your point, depending on the platform, there are enthusiast communities that have accomplished the swap and have catalogued the process and required parts. I would be surprised if such a community exists for the Vigor, but it's definitely possible.
This is why forums should be bigger than Facebook for tech info.
My 15 year old son wants to build a drift car and he thinks it’s no problem to convert an automatic to a manual transmission. I keep telling him that we’ll find the right vehicle that’s a manual, just be patient. Thank you for the video, I’ll have my son watch it. Hopefully he’ll now realize that it’s just not his “dumb father” who thinks this way 🤪
Wayne Tjornhom better yet, help him do the conversion. The life lesson will be worth it, and He can’t drive for another year anyhow.
Yeah any reasonable drift chassis has a manual variant and isn't particularly rare anyway, like e36 or s13. Only situation to manual swap one is if you get a super good deal on the auto to avoid the drift tax
He just wants a clean, un-molested car to start with. He rightfully feels you won't find a clean, factory manual most likely. Because everyone else who drifts has done the same thing before him.
The factory manual cars have all been but bought up, beaten up, hacked up (improperly), have problems now that they just want to chuck off to unsuspecting novice buyers.
(Hopefully NOT you).
And the clean ones done right, or un-molested, cost too much. Which justifies buying an auto and modifying it over time cost-wise.
@@mumbles005 Now THAT, I agree on 100%!!
Excuse my long posts. But You don't daily your drift car - ESPECIALLY as a NEW driver, or drifter!
You get something CHEAP, old, and/or beat up and LEARN on that. TOW IT TO THE TRACK if you can.
Don't throw expensive parts at it first. STOCK ENGINE, STOCK SUSPENSION. Let him learn the car, develop his skill, THEN upgrade the car as he develops.
NO STREET DRIFTING!!
NO PARKING LOT DRIFTING!!
TRACK OR NOTHING!!
Many nice cars get totaled going over curbs and smacking walls & guardrails on the street!
At least at the track you don't get in trouble.
Maybe he wants a 240sx. Tell him to look at other cars. And be careful about cheap cars from other drifters trying to dump their botched projects on him.
If he watches ChrisFix, he did the same thing. He bought a late 90's Mustang GT (factory manual!). Kept it stock, and built it as he got better. He also had another daily driver though. So he mainly drove it to/from the track.
@@mumbles005 no. too powerfull or it's a wiring nightmare. you're better off with a dropped, stripped mini pickup, like a courrier, a B2000 or something like that. cut the springs, drop the rear, strip everything. any 90's rwd car would work fine too. all it needs is a welded diff and stiff springs.
180whp is where you ideally want to be at. with a corvette you'll just hit a wall faster and harder.
*looks over at the new manual transmission sitting on a pallet in my garage*
Did you end up swapping?
@@dsavage8751 yes, today is hopefully the last day of the project, the clutch lines are in and the flywheel and pressure plate is on. All that's left is putting the transmission in
Update: I've been driving it for a few weeks without issue. The truck itself needs alot of work but the transmission is great
@@bawkray sigh i bought all the parts to swap mine but i’m hesitating rn
@@chimkinnugget5221 how much did you spend on parts, is this car a daily driver, and what year is it?
Agree 100%. Good video. Thanks for posting.
Some days I barely even WANT to WORK on modern cars ... let alone start modifying them! Nooooo thanks! 😁😁
I have a '97 E150. I fix stuff, mostly electrical (light switch, turn signal assy., airbag, clock spring.) Some of the stuff is enraging (ask my neighbors - I moan like a crazy man sometimes) but the parts are essentially free. More modern than that requires a good scanning tool and you ain't gonna get away without it.
I swapped in a manual trans into a 2000 4runner. It was actually pretty simple. The biggest upgrade after the swap was actually getting an ECU from a manual 4runner. The brain box didn't know what to do with the manual at all and it just drove funky. If you're curious, I posted a video talking about my swap
I just finished manual swapping a Civic, cause, I'm dumb and like burning money.
I /only/ needed a 5-speed gearbox, shift cables, shift cable brackets, shift cable spacers, and pins, shifter box, shift boot, shift knob, shifter boot trim, clutch and brake pedal, drill holes in firewall, clutch cylinder, clutch lines, clutch reservoir and bracket, clutch line brackets, secondary clutch cylinder, shift fork and boot, throw out bearing, clutch disc, pressure plate, flywheel, pilot bearing, lots of bolts, front subframe, front motor mount, rear transmission bracket, left and right CV axles, an engine wire harness, a PCM sub-wire harness, the driver's controls sub-wire harness, the M/T in-cabin fusebox, a new ECU.
I've never driven a manual car on the road either.
Yeah I'm going through this on my Honda Civic right now because Honda automatics are terrible I think I have figured a way to trick the computer into thinking that it's in neutral
I've done it a few times. Very few cars it's easy; most cars it's a royal pain. The older civic wasn't too bad to swap, but I want to say just about every other honda product required cutting and welding in addition to wiring issues.
Your username got me thinking, the Nissan S13 is one of those cars where it's easy- just swap the requisite components around and you're good to go. Not so with the older S12, which has a totally different floorpan between automatic and manual variants. Much welding and cobbling together of components from newer Nissans is required. I'd still recommend it in that car- it's 30-35 years old, you better be prepared for that kind of thing anyway- but it's only "straightforward" if you've done it a few times and have time to waste.
91 Integra. Just had to drill a couple holes for the manual pedal assembly, and drill a hole for a clutch cable. Everything was pre-stamped and marked from factory. Super easy.
@@dropinbiking92 I priced out a 2005 Civic for manual to auto. Was about $2000 for all new OEM parts minus the ECU and transmission. That was for brand new OE Engine Harness, Dashboard Harness, used manual gauge cluster, shifter assembly w/ cables, clutch pedal with sensors, new flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, new slave cylinder, new master cylinder and all the lines and hardware. New Driver's Axle (longer than the auto axle.) Two new engine mounts for the manual transmission. When Honda went to McPherson struts, it's a lot harder to get the transmission out too. With the subframe (as it designed for the car to be lifted off the subframe w/ the engine assembly and wheels still on the subframe.)
The auto dash harness can be mutilated to remove the lines that tell the car it's in park. The auto engine harness can be modified to include the sensor for the reverse lights. The stock auto ecu can be used, but, it will likely be stuck in limp mode and not go past 4000 rpm. No welding. You could get all those parts from the junk yard for pennies on the dollar and there's plenty of civic's in junkyards.
Main point - Honda still marks on all their firewalls where the clutch pedal goes still. Yay Honda. I wouldn't auto-to-manual anything other than a Honda, or T56 T400 LS everything.
Yeah a 91 Integra is WAYYYY more simple than a 2005 civic. I was lucky too. My 92 manual Integra got wrecked, and it's VERY hard to find second gen Integras not rotten away. So I found an automatic for $600. I didn't actually need to buy anything for the swap, I just yanked everything off the manual car before I scrapped it, made $150 from the scrap shell, and put it towards a brand new clutch, just because why not?
@@KENARDO yup S13 is about as easy an auto to manual swap as you will find.
in France, easy choice : it's illegal to swap anything... love your videos Eric
this is also a reason why jaune jillets happening lol
Not even tyres?
@Another Millennial that has nothing to do with eu rules. Here in the Netherlands you can tint your front windows up intil a serten degree. Rears you can black out if you want, no problem no paperwork.
Glad I don't live in France then!
I don't get how European countries can have all these bullshit regulations on damn near everything and everybody is just okay with it.
I’d leave it as is. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. 🍻😎👍
That slogan has no relevancy. Doing a manual swap would be a mod, not a repair.
Justin Dow Lol.. An automatic that's never had it's ATF changed is inherently broken you just haven't seen the effects yet.
It's worth if you know what you're doing. I know that buying a manual one is better but in some cars there's no manual option.
Remember back in early 1970s my neighbor bought brand new special order full size Ford LTD with 3 speed on the column.
Probably one of only 5 produced in the world.
He used to always use 1st gear for about 20 feet then shift.
Hey Eric I'm at Scotty kilmers house watching your videos lol
Tell him I said 'hi'.
Tell him i said fuck you and start more drama with chris fix lately?
That's all nice, but let's talk about that glorious beard you've got going on. Noice.
Great video Eric! I love my older 90's Honda's and have personally performed an auto to manual swap in a 1992 Honda Accord. I live just north of you in Columbus and we both know the difficulties of finding a nice clean vehicle here. At that time I was lucky and found a nice clean rust free auto but not a manual. For me the decision was easy and the effort to convert it was well worth it.
100% agree Eric it’s completely pointless and imo STUPID to five speed swap a auto just buy a manual shell or something lol. Much easier !! Unless it’s a classic car without modern technology. It’s not worth it!
Adam Wolfe there are some cases like with a E34 540i where the auto version can be had for $1500 and the manual is $5-6000. Yet the parts to convert will cost you $1500 which makes it more financially better to convert verses buying a manual version.
Eric! Fix up the blue one, someday! It's still a great car! Have two clean Vigors!