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You could have put the 9mm barrel in the .40 slide. Both barrels are the same OD. Plus the spring is the same. You could have saved a few hundred dollars. You will need 9mm mags though. 9's are a little sloppy in the .40 mag.
@@Alpha_Jay Yes, the mags are the same, I did this originally with my 1.0 40C, but I just added a conversion barrel from storm lake. th-cam.com/play/PL9DFnbUMCubQX_29qUOYySF7ytaTVO3qE.html
@Fred Wills I think that would be possible, but I only purchased the whole slide parts to keep it complete and easy to swap out. I don't think I have seen a conversion barrel that goes from 9mm to 40, only the 40 to 9mm. Which why I have the whole slide assembled.
purchased two magazine to date, but I have been using the longer fullsize magazine. Review my last test fire of the 9mm slide. th-cam.com/video/86lIE5sJQiE/w-d-xo.html
That's crazy to me for a couple different reasons 😆 but I still support you doing what makes you happy. We are all in the same hobby as far as I'm concerned
@@Espi68One well I come at gus from the view of fun /hobby collection, protection . Please don't take any of this personally, like I said I support whatever you want to do. From what I have read and the little research iv done .it looks like you can just get conversion barrels . but I understand why you want hole slide. But if your going to pay for the most expensive part of the gun, why not get the rest of it so if you have a problem someone can help defend you. Also I can justify a 9mm or a .40 but not both. I have made that mistake kinda by accident , but that story doesn't matter 😆 the 9mm comes out on top for me because of price, availability and you can put more of them in a magazine . Idk I understand loving the shield plus , I love mine. But I don't know why you wouldn't want three different guns.
@@davidgibbs1083 Yes, I have done that in the past for my 40C to 9C pistol, which is my carry pistol at the moment. .but Just changing out the barrels would have a more hassle for me. But if your going to pay for the most expensive part of the gun, why not get the rest of it so if you have a problem someone can help defend you. As a matter of fact I just purchased two 3.6 frames and plan to build them up for the two separate 9mm slides. Also I can justify a 9mm or a .40 but not both. I can understand from a certain point of view, I shoot many calibers, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 9mm, 40S&W, .223/5.56, .308, 12 guage, and the would be the reason for two calibers. I have made that mistake kinda by accident , but that story doesn't matter the 9mm comes out on top for me because of price, availability and you can put more of them in a magazine. I handload my ammo, (gonna stop with the price of primers, but that will be determined later), so cost is a 50/50 issue, but yes, 9mm is lowest in cost to shoot. Idk I understand loving the shield plus , I love mine. But I don't know why you wouldn't want three different guns. I think overall, I am love firearms and love to fiddle with them and learn as I go, I am also into computers as hobby and professional. Just tinkering I guess, I appreciate the comments and I just like to share with the youtube (gun community) about things I do, (*thus the title*) Thanks for your comments, hit me up if you have any questions.
@@Espi68One well since your getting a couple of frames I guess that part isn't so strange lol. You have lots of cool stuff . I'll try to put some of my other problems/ I mean Hobbys . We are a lot more alike I than I thought. I have no might have mis judged you a Little
@davidgibbs1083 My Opinion on the additional slide would be less confusing then maybe in a hurry to grab the firearm with the wrong ammo But again that's my opinion Neither of those are Wrong or Right
I can save you some money. You don't need the guide rod and the spring. The .40 will work fine for 9mm. I know, I've been doing this for years. Works for a lot of guns.
Not having to buy each one, but in the end, I purchased two frames and built up two 9mm pistols with the slides. So technically, I end up buying them anyways. th-cam.com/video/_nbImVv50S4/w-d-xo.html
Maybe I’m wrong but I think there’s a difference between the regular barrel and a conversion barrel. The conversion barrel compensating for any size difference.
Yes. The 9mm barrel breach is slightly smaller than the 40 giving a small wiggle that can affect accuracy. The conversion barrels are measured in the 40 calibur breach with a 9mm bore
freedom munitions is pretty reasonable for 40 ammo right now, 9 also. i posted a comment to see if you might want to sell your safety parts few minutes ago. it was deleted right away.
I have a M and P .22 Compact . was wondering if you could change the .22lr slide/barrel into a 9mm slide/barrel? I know you can change a Glock 17 9mm into a .22lr , but wanted to know if you could do the same 🧐
I think that would factor a lot, 1. the slide to frame interchangeability. 2. The magazine interchangeability also. The best way is to find out is to use a 9mm compact and see if the parts will fit. I could not give you a definite answer on the compatibility of those two models.
Did the reverse: Could not find 40sw 2.0 sc (10rnd.) Have the 3.6 40sw (13rnd) slide on a 9mm. sc frame. It is good to swap the grip "tool" to a 1.0 version, because they are not split in the back and stab the heal of your palm. ( got a Rem sport 357sig barrel as well, 90grn. Xtreme defence are LOUD!) I bought some new 357sig brass that I can load with 40sw and 9mm. dies but can't resize and load.....yet.
Swapping between 40S&W I understand is just fine, but moving to the .357 Sig is gonna add some beating to the slide, (unless it's made for the .357 Sig), it just a higher pressured round. I have considered it for my Glock and this 40S&W M&P, but change my mind after some reading. I am not sure if the 1.0 tool will fit, but if the cost is not too much, just a small amount of $$ wasted. I will probably not load .357 Sig, until I do buy a .357 Sig. I do understand the S&W did make a 1.0 M&P in .357 Sig, but I would be interested a in subcompact GLOCK. Need to look around. I eventually build up to frames for the 9mm slides. th-cam.com/play/PL9DFnbUMCubR0U-Il47-AovwiTAOaZBr_.html
@@Espi68One Uh...nevermind. Why would I tell you to use the 1.0 tool if it didn't fit? Secondly; 357sig is interchangeable with 40sw. Bolt thrust and chamber pressure are two different things. Are you from California or something?
@@Espi68One I think I figured out what you are referring to. When 357sig came out; a few reloaders attempted to convert 40sw brass into necked down 357sig brass. The neck is not long enough( to support the bullet ) and the web is not thick enough to support the added pressure. A few loaders could pull it off with light powder loads and 115grn. bullets. 357sig brass is usually made from cut and necked 10mm. brass. Incidentally, 40sw brass has become thicker and stronger as well; it is believed this is due to earlier Glock chambers that did not fully support the case and caused KBOOMS. Our M&P pistols were always designed around the 40sw. cartridge. The 9mm. versions are in fact, overbuilt as a result. All Glock 5th gen 40sw models are now built to the same 40sw dimensions as Smith and Wesson pistols. Oh, one more thing, 10mm and 357sig can have large or small primer pockets. I would prefer small so as to have more base behind these "higher pressure" loadings.
I have read that there essentially no difference in the frames, as long as you run a complete 40 slide, meaning a 40 slide and a 40 barrel, you can only run 9mm in a 40 slide with a conversion barrel. Watch my videos on 40C/9C. But do a bit more research as I have gone from 40 built pistols to 9mm. I have not gone 9mm to 40.
I believe the 45 frame is wider then the 9mm/40 frame. I have thought about getting a 10mm barrel, for my 40, but the rounds would not fit in the magazine.
@@wreckagevic Nope, same, same, just a bigger hole at the end of the barrel. I have a 40C 1.0 that was converted to a 9C with just a barrel swap. Slides are same, just accommodate different barrels based on 9mm or 40.
@@wreckagevic I would not recommend it, it will function, BUT, the small little differences in the measures around the chamber DO NOT give it a complete seal and you can have headcase separation, better to get a conversion barrel that locks up with correct measurements. So I have been told on forums. Better to be safe then sorry.
Oh yeah, shot the 3.6 twice now. Great pistol. Have a Taurus g2c 40 also, love that one also. I thought about buying a sig barrel but saw some 125 grain 40 ammo rated at 1350 to 1400 fps and want to try that instead. Wicked stuff.
Shooting the 40 is cool as heck, but dang the cost, I ended up building a bunch of handloads to bring down the cost, but at a stand still with the primer shortage. I also carried the 40 in a G27 for a good amount of time. Excellent Round.
Yes, the 40 & 9mm magazines are the same size, just have different capacity and different followers, additionally, it will take the longer mags too from fullsize version, with spacers, if u want to use them. I recently build up two M&P 3.6 frames for the 9mm slides: th-cam.com/video/_nbImVv50S4/w-d-xo.html
Of course, BTW, removing the safety from the M&P is relatively easy, and you just add the safety plugs. I prefer no safety, as it assist in drawing to shoot, one less obstacle. I understand most prefer a safety, but confidence in training and learning your firearm goes a long, there are many people who carry GLOCKs with confidence. I would never remove a safety from a 1911 or an AR.
I think if I found a 4in barrel in 40 and dropped it in the 40 slide, it would work as the locking mechanism would be the same. It would just protrude out of the slide longer of course.
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Welcome to Club 3.6 9mm bro! Grab a drink from bar come sit over here with us. We already ordered a tray of wings and the waitress should be back any minute now!
You could have put the 9mm barrel in the .40 slide. Both barrels are the same OD. Plus the spring is the same. You could have saved a few hundred dollars. You will need 9mm mags though. 9's are a little sloppy in the .40 mag.
Can the m&p 9mm magazines actually fit in the 40 magazine well m&p??
@@Alpha_Jay Yes, the mags are the same, I did this originally with my 1.0 40C, but I just added a conversion barrel from storm lake. th-cam.com/play/PL9DFnbUMCubQX_29qUOYySF7ytaTVO3qE.html
@Fred Wills I think that would be possible, but I only purchased the whole slide parts to keep it complete and easy to swap out. I don't think I have seen a conversion barrel that goes from 9mm to 40, only the 40 to 9mm. Which why I have the whole slide assembled.
purchased two magazine to date, but I have been using the longer fullsize magazine. Review my last test fire of the 9mm slide. th-cam.com/video/86lIE5sJQiE/w-d-xo.html
@@Alpha_Jay yes, they will fit.
You can also do 357 sig brother
That's crazy to me for a couple different reasons 😆 but I still support you doing what makes you happy. We are all in the same hobby as far as I'm concerned
please elaborate, I would like to know your opinion.
@@Espi68One well I come at gus from the view of fun /hobby collection, protection . Please don't take any of this personally, like I said I support whatever you want to do. From what I have read and the little research iv done .it looks like you can just get conversion barrels . but I understand why you want hole slide. But if your going to pay for the most expensive part of the gun, why not get the rest of it so if you have a problem someone can help defend you. Also I can justify a 9mm or a .40 but not both. I have made that mistake kinda by accident , but that story doesn't matter 😆 the 9mm comes out on top for me because of price, availability and you can put more of them in a magazine . Idk I understand loving the shield plus , I love mine. But I don't know why you wouldn't want three different guns.
@@davidgibbs1083 Yes, I have done that in the past for my 40C to 9C pistol, which is my carry pistol at the moment.
.but Just changing out the barrels would have a more hassle for me.
But if your going to pay for the most expensive part of the gun, why not get the rest of it so if you have a problem someone can help defend you.
As a matter of fact I just purchased two 3.6 frames and plan to build them up for the two separate 9mm slides.
Also I can justify a 9mm or a .40 but not both.
I can understand from a certain point of view, I shoot many calibers, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 9mm, 40S&W, .223/5.56, .308, 12 guage, and the would be the reason for two calibers.
I have made that mistake kinda by accident , but that story doesn't matter the 9mm comes out on top for me because of price, availability and you can put more of them in a magazine. I handload my ammo, (gonna stop with the price of primers, but that will be determined later), so cost is a 50/50 issue, but yes, 9mm is lowest in cost to shoot.
Idk I understand loving the shield plus , I love mine. But I don't know why you wouldn't
want three different guns. I think overall, I am love firearms and love to fiddle with them and learn as I go, I am also into computers as hobby and professional. Just tinkering I guess, I appreciate the comments and I just like to share with the youtube (gun community) about things I do, (*thus the title*)
Thanks for your comments, hit me up if you have any questions.
@@Espi68One well since your getting a couple of frames I guess that part isn't so strange lol. You have lots of cool stuff . I'll try to put some of my other problems/ I mean Hobbys . We are a lot more alike I than I thought. I have no might have mis judged you a Little
@davidgibbs1083 My Opinion on the additional slide would be less confusing then maybe in a hurry to grab the firearm with the wrong ammo
But again that's my opinion
Neither of those are Wrong or Right
I can save you some money. You don't need the guide rod and the spring. The .40 will work fine for 9mm. I know, I've been doing this for years. Works for a lot of guns.
True, but I wanted to complete each slide complete, separately, so I can just swap everything at once.
@@Espi68One That makes sense!
Can the 40 magazines run the 9mm with zero issues once the barrels are swapped
@@jr187bx No, you'll need to get some 9mm mags. The feed lips on the 40 mags are a bit wider than the 9mm.
357 sig also will work just fine
Not sure what the big advantage is, verses buying one of each.
Not having to buy each one, but in the end, I purchased two frames and built up two 9mm pistols with the slides. So technically, I end up buying them anyways.
th-cam.com/video/_nbImVv50S4/w-d-xo.html
Maybe I’m wrong but I think there’s a difference between the regular barrel and a conversion barrel. The conversion barrel compensating for any size difference.
Yes. The 9mm barrel breach is slightly smaller than the 40 giving a small wiggle that can affect accuracy. The conversion barrels are measured in the 40 calibur breach with a 9mm bore
freedom munitions is pretty reasonable for 40 ammo right now, 9 also.
i posted a comment to see if you might want to sell your safety parts few minutes ago. it was deleted right away.
I have a M and P .22 Compact . was wondering if you could change the .22lr slide/barrel into a 9mm slide/barrel? I know you can change a Glock 17 9mm into a .22lr , but wanted to know if you could do the same 🧐
I think that would factor a lot, 1. the slide to frame interchangeability. 2. The magazine interchangeability also. The best way is to find out is to use a 9mm compact and see if the parts will fit. I could not give you a definite answer on the compatibility of those two models.
Did the reverse: Could not find 40sw 2.0 sc (10rnd.)
Have the 3.6 40sw (13rnd)
slide on a 9mm. sc frame.
It is good to swap the grip "tool" to a 1.0 version, because they are not split in the back and stab the heal of your palm.
( got a Rem sport 357sig barrel as well, 90grn. Xtreme defence are LOUD!) I bought some new 357sig brass that I can load with 40sw and 9mm. dies but can't resize and load.....yet.
Swapping between 40S&W I understand is just fine, but moving to the .357 Sig is gonna add some beating to the slide, (unless it's made for the .357 Sig), it just a higher pressured round. I have considered it for my Glock and this 40S&W M&P, but change my mind after some reading. I am not sure if the 1.0 tool will fit, but if the cost is not too much, just a small amount of $$ wasted. I will probably not load .357 Sig, until I do buy a .357 Sig. I do understand the S&W did make a 1.0 M&P in .357 Sig, but I would be interested a in subcompact GLOCK. Need to look around. I eventually build up to frames for the 9mm slides.
th-cam.com/play/PL9DFnbUMCubR0U-Il47-AovwiTAOaZBr_.html
@@Espi68One Uh...nevermind.
Why would I tell you to use the 1.0 tool if it didn't fit?
Secondly; 357sig is interchangeable with 40sw.
Bolt thrust and chamber pressure are two different things.
Are you from California or something?
@@almaadams3631 Texan all this way. I have read that .357 Sig is not a good round to use as conversion from 40S&W as it is higher pressure round.
@@Espi68One I think I figured out what you are referring to.
When 357sig came out; a few reloaders attempted to convert 40sw brass into necked down 357sig brass. The neck is not long enough( to support the bullet ) and the web is not thick enough to support the added pressure. A few loaders could pull it off with light powder loads and 115grn. bullets.
357sig brass is usually made from cut and necked 10mm.
brass. Incidentally, 40sw brass has become thicker and stronger as well; it is believed this is due to earlier Glock chambers that did not fully support the case and caused
KBOOMS. Our M&P pistols were always designed around the 40sw. cartridge. The 9mm. versions are in fact, overbuilt as a result. All Glock 5th gen 40sw models are now built to the same 40sw dimensions as Smith and Wesson pistols.
Oh, one more thing, 10mm and 357sig can have large or small primer pockets. I would prefer small so as to have more base behind these "higher pressure"
loadings.
Can you shoot 40 on a nine mm compact frame.
I have read that there essentially no difference in the frames, as long as you run a complete 40 slide, meaning a 40 slide and a 40 barrel, you can only run 9mm in a 40 slide with a conversion barrel. Watch my videos on 40C/9C. But do a bit more research as I have gone from 40 built pistols to 9mm. I have not gone 9mm to 40.
No, you can't. Only 40 s&w can convert to 9mm or 357 sig
I wonder if I Had the 45 acp version and do the same thing go down to 10mm 40s&w 9mm
I believe the 45 frame is wider then the 9mm/40 frame. I have thought about getting a 10mm barrel, for my 40, but the rounds would not fit in the magazine.
Is the .40 slide chunkier than the 9mm?
@@wreckagevic Nope, same, same, just a bigger hole at the end of the barrel. I have a 40C 1.0 that was converted to a 9C with just a barrel swap. Slides are same, just accommodate different barrels based on 9mm or 40.
@@Espi68One yeah I have a 2.0 3.6 and heard it only needs a factory 9mm barrel and 9mm mags so I’m debating on giving it a try
@@wreckagevic I would not recommend it, it will function, BUT, the small little differences in the measures around the chamber DO NOT give it a complete seal and you can have headcase separation, better to get a conversion barrel that locks up with correct measurements. So I have been told on forums. Better to be safe then sorry.
Oh yeah, shot the 3.6 twice now. Great pistol. Have a Taurus g2c 40 also, love that one also. I thought about buying a sig barrel but saw some 125 grain 40 ammo rated at 1350 to 1400 fps and want to try that instead. Wicked stuff.
Shooting the 40 is cool as heck, but dang the cost, I ended up building a bunch of handloads to bring down the cost, but at a stand still with the primer shortage. I also carried the 40 in a G27 for a good amount of time. Excellent Round.
Nice....
What Mags do you use. Will the 9mm mag fit ?
Yes, the 40 & 9mm magazines are the same size, just have different capacity and different followers, additionally, it will take the longer mags too from fullsize version, with spacers, if u want to use them. I recently build up two M&P 3.6 frames for the 9mm slides: th-cam.com/video/_nbImVv50S4/w-d-xo.html
@Espi68One OK Thank You
@@edwardeverest2173 Thanks for ur comment.
That’s sick
Be sure to remove your ar and 1911 safeties also
Of course, BTW, removing the safety from the M&P is relatively easy, and you just add the safety plugs. I prefer no safety, as it assist in drawing to shoot, one less obstacle. I understand most prefer a safety, but confidence in training and learning your firearm goes a long, there are many people who carry GLOCKs with confidence. I would never remove a safety from a 1911 or an AR.
Does it shoot?
Yes, shoots very well, watch playlist: th-cam.com/play/PL9DFnbUMCubRg3NvnBmnsuCW1j29-XhPm.html
Good deal....
CAN THAT BE DONE W/ .40 S&W 4" COMPACT, 2.0?
I think if I found a 4in barrel in 40 and dropped it in the 40 slide, it would work as the locking mechanism would be the same. It would just protrude out of the slide longer of course.