Oregairu Zoku Clip - "Genuine" Scene
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2015
- Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Episode 08 scene.
This scene just hits straight to the feels.
I did add some color correction to the clip.
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Many story have main heroes with sad backstory, where the protagonist loses something or someone important and have to deal with to surpass his/her former self and go on with the story.
Hachiman didn't lose nothing or anybody, but still suffered with daily things that happened in his life. It maybe not as tragic as someone's death or something like that, but the fact is traumas are something that different people deals with different ways (sometimes not even being able to).
I didn't fully understood this scene at the first time, but what caught me offguard was the fact the Hachiman broke his sarcastic persona to open up his heart, and the way that the anime make this scene as perfect as it is, makes our "Hikki" a more relatable character
true words spoken
It s all thanks to sensei. She managed to move hachiman
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In the end if the light novel Hachiman said his goodbye to Hiratsuka after their first and final dance.
@@zack4364 it's been animated in the episode 12!!
Hachiman crying just hits a little different huh? Hachiman just destroyed everything he stood for. The roundabout, reluctant way in which he explains it just shows how much he hates his own hypocrisy in that moment. In order to abandon his cynical worldview and the self sacrificing, self deprecating methods that were slowly beginning to fail because of the people around him that felt the pain each time he committed a social suicide, he had to become something he absolutely despised. He had to start fabricating reasons to take action. He began to look at Hayama's group for answers. He found himself trying to preserve something that he had earlier considered disgusting and superficial. It may seem pretentious and it is high school life at the end of the day(the light, soothing piano soundtracks seem to be there to remind us of that), but his massive development is undeniable. He realized that it was time to break out of his shell, so he finally decided to tackle the problem head on, before slowly, painfully expressing his desire for something genuine. This anime is such a gem
he find himself at the circumstances that he did not want in order to break out of it he has to explain his type of world (hate superficial things but being forced to do that, so we should understand he force to be hypocrite)
Definitely a gem. I'm so grateful we got that third season, because it took the series from being "pretty good" to being a fucking masterpiece.
I would really like another season, though; it's kind of frustrating to go through that whole journey only to be cut off right when things were getting really good.
You probably won't believe me as I'm just a stranger on the Internet, but I had a God encountering moment thanks to your comment. Thank you 💙...
@@MiguelMedV Oh wow thank you! I jut put whatever I was feeling 3 years ago and put it into words in the best way I could. I'm glad it resonated with you :)
@@sidharthmenon7225 Yeah this Anime surprised me a lot, small fan service and a lot of good messages 💪🏼. I watched it 6 years ago and have tried to live Genuinely ever since, my life is very different now, I'm a Parkour and Calisthenics athlete among other things.
I'll recommend it (at least the Zoku part) to a friend who might need it. I came here 'cause I was watching "Spy X Family" (2023) with my family and found out Hikigaya and Yuigahama's VAs are the MCs there too! 😄👌🏼💯...
My fave scene in Oregairu! I absolutely loved this show. So introspective, depressing, bleak, yet hopeful, has good laughs and feels. Can't recommend this show enough.
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@@itriggerpeople9500 really????? OMG
Liliana Taborda yes, I‘m not lying you can even search it up.
@@itriggerpeople9500 Its actually on April 11
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I love how Yui and Yukino just stop and look at Hachiman in shock the moment they realize he's fighting back tears, and it doesn't feel like the show is forcing all the attention onto him for no reason. He's letting himself be vulnerable around other people for the first time in his life and it's such an unbelievable situation, what other choice would they have than to take notice and be in awe?
We're here after he's finally found something he can call 'genuine'
We reached the end, boys. Genuine has come
Yes yes yes
oh yes
finally yes
The game: looks completely different from the ads and the real game
Me to the developers: 2:00
:(
*eyes at EA and bethesda*
Yooo you ruined this scene for me man 💀✋
@@pranitp.1622 yeah i was just about to say that
*insert Hachiman writhing on a sofa in the next chapter*
You will shocked if a emotionless man starts to cry
I know the feels Hachiman, I know the feels, I'm sick of clickbaits too
"I don't want to be understood, i want to understand"
Hits the hardest for me, Hachiman who was forced to be this pessimistic and self sacrificing kind person because of how much he was made fun of and bullied in the past.
He never understood what real bonds are, he never understood what it means to be honest to others without being hated for it, he never understood why the girls also gets hurt whenever he hurts himself. Which is why he always glare at Hayato and his gang, he wanted to understand.
Which is why he wanted something that is real or genuine, he wants to understand what it truly means to have people that truly cares about him for who he is.
do you why at first Yukino rejected his request.I'm a bit confused
@@LongHoang-uo3yw Because Yukino has never felt the way she is to Hachiman in her entire life. She is confused on what is "Something genuine" because same with Hachiman, she has never experienced true bonds until she met Hachiman and Yui. So as a self defense mechanism to something that is completely unknown to her, she rejects it at first.
@@jericho5565 no no,she rejected his request before he said that sentence
Thanks for your comment bro, it really helped me out. Absolutely underrated!
There's something about Hachiman monologues that make me feel like there's something legendary about the anime
When Man cries
I remember this scene having a more precise and strong "I want something authentic" instead of a "I want the real thing"
same
Well you're talking about translated subtitles. 本物 is literally made up of "Original, thing/object" with its kanji. That "mono" is frequently used to mean "thing." The "real thing," or "genuine article" is the closest literal translation one can get. Whether it says authentic or the real thing or genuine doesn't really matter, because they're all fairly accurate translations that don't change the original Japanese.
It's like when people say "wow he says it differently in the manga," about certain scenes in anime. Like no, he doesn't, it's just that two different people did two different translations lol. It all means the same thing, regardless of how "strong" it sounds to you in your native language.
@@CarboKill yeah depending on how many varied context people get in live, how “strong” people feeling between “real”, “authentic”, “genuine” are different
Art compensated in a speech, the emotions it gives rise to, impossible to describe in words!
This show will always be a beloved favorite for me.
Hachiman was who I used to be, and his desire for a relationship not built on fake ideals or assumptions and instead on being genuine and honest, without needing to explain ones motives, was what i wanted for so long
And i found friendships like this. It IS possible.
It's like seeing your dad cry.
WOOO SEASON 3 HERE WE COME
I cried a lot 😭😭
They got me feeling all sorts of ways man come on now
Untill this moment in the show i was upset cause i was thinking that would be finishing with Hachiman avoiding himself over and over
i like this scene because my perception of things changed along with hikkis
Woooo pero que palabras sin dudas cambia mis perspectivas y sin duda de lo mejor que hay
En ese momento Hachiman se percataba de los sentimientos que provocaban sus suicidios sociales en los que lo rodeaban, por lo que sus métodos duros y críticos estaban dejando de ser efectivos y se iban deconstruyendo poco a poco. Podemos ver como quiso mantener eso que detestaba, cosa que lo agobiaba bastante, porque siempre supo lo hipócrita que era en ese sentido; aquí podemos ver como sale de su caparazón y enfrenta el problema que lo hacía ser así de duro y frio, y muestra como en el fondo le dolia de cierta manera ser ¨raro¨ o el rechazado o retraido social.
Hachiman also has his little heart :'( ❤️ More reasons to love it
Yukinoshita was genuine I guess
It hurts it just ended..
When the genuine scene doesn’t even translate to wanting something genuine….
At first when I was watching this scene, I just skipped it completely, probably because I kind of felt a lot of similarities to me and Hachiman's character even though I have friends. It kind of felt out of his character and cringe. Then I went back again after finishing the season and slowly played the scene trying to understand. Although I have friends and family I wish I could stay alone coz I wont be able to voice my opinions completely or make the other person understand me as I feel its just dumb to be able to rely on people when you can just survive without letting the other person understand as you still do, but after understanding and trying to voice my thoughts and making others understand me and vice versa it has become more fun. I realized how much I could relate to others and how easy it is to be able to stay friends even if we dont talk for a lot of time. Although I cant say I completely understand other, I can still tell what they feel and make understand without just going with the flow
言ったから分かるってのは傲慢なんだよ
言った本人の自己満足、言われたヤツの思い上がり
いろいろあって話せば必ず理解し合えるって訳じゃない
だから、言葉が欲しいんじゃないんだ。
だけど、言わなかったらずっとわかんないまんまだよ。
そうだな。
言わなくても分かるっていうのは幻想だ。
でも……でも、おれは……おれは…
俺は言葉が欲しいんじゃない。
俺が欲しかったものは確かにあった。
それはきっと、分かり合いたいとか仲良くしたいとか、一緒にいたいとか、そういうことじゃない。おれは分かってもらいたいんじゃない。
おれは分かりたいのだ。わかりたい。知っていたい。知って安心したい。安らぎを得ていたい。分からないことは酷く怖いことだから。完全に理解したいだなんて、酷く独善的で独裁的で傲慢な願いだ。本当に浅ましくておぞましい。そんな願望を抱いている自分が気持ち悪くて仕方がない。
だけどもしも、もしもお互いがそう思えるなら、その醜い自己満足を押し付けあい、許容できる関係性が存在するのなら、
そんなこと絶対に出来ないのは知っている。
そんなものに手が届かないのも分かっている。
それでも……
それでも、俺は、俺は、俺は
本物が欲しい。
omg this scene make me cry never seen him crying before after i watch ss1 end ss2 and 3 not yet but this scene make me tear out so much
yeah because he's asking something that human relationship have to and that is genuine.
@@alfredomangean6186 agree he said so honesty and have reason to do i already watch ss3 and the start kinda not much but the end was so cute and also its a good time to say what they want in the deep inside of they feeling ending perfect
I cant never do this in my life. Ill just keep it inside me forever until I die and vanish to the void of darkness. I salute all people who speak their mind
I think i can understand you and i can feel loneliness and those betrayals and heartbreaks i have felt till now but if you let those feelings out alone in room then you may feel good
my guy speaking faxx
If the hachiman cries, everyone cries!
Cried in this scene
The men cries.
Hachiman broken.
Whenever anyone uses this word, I flashback to this scene.
Itakara wakaruteyu no goman nanda-yo, ita houn ni no yikomansoku iwaretayasu no momoi ni agari, iro iro ate, hanaseba kanaratsu rikai shiaeru te wake yanai...
Dakara, kotoba ga hoshin yanainda.
Soudana, iwanakutemo wakaru teyu no gensoda, demo... demo... ore wa... ore wa...
[Ore wa kotoba ga hoshin yanai, ore ga hoshikatamono tasu kani atta... Sore wa kito, wakari aitai toka, nakayoku shitai toka, ishoni itai toka, soyu koto yanai... ore wa wakatte moraitai n yanai. Ore wa wakaritai noda, wakaritai, shiteitai, shite anshistai, yasuragi wo eteitai, wakaranai koto wa hidoku koai koto dakara. Kansen ni rikai shitai da nante hidoku doku sen dekite, dokusai dekite goman na negai da.
Hontoni asamashikute osomashi, souna gambo oidaiteru jibun ga kimochi warukute shikataganai...
Dakedo moshimo, moshimo otagai ga so omoeru no nara, sono minikui jiko mansoku wo oshikeai, kioyo dekiru kanke se ga sonsai suru no naraba...
Souna koto zettai ni dekine no o shiteiru, souna mono ni tega todokanai o wakateiru...] Soredemo... soredemo ore wa... ore wa... Ore wa houn mono ga hoshi!
Amen
Amen
Latom
Please do one on nice girl
@@thingsarecool887 Yuigahama?
- Dakedo iwanakatara zutto wakaranai mama dayo...
It kinda hit me where he said, "I don't want to be understood, I simply want to understand"
I don't understand the part where he said if everyone has self-consciousness to do the same to each other and accept it, he wants that but that is just impossible, I don't get it
u miss a context, the full statement was”but if we feel the same way…if relationships exist and we can force that ugly self-consciousness upon each other and accept it…”. I think it was a mistake of who cut 1 statement in 2 and separate it. That mistake make me confused to :V. Also for that statement i think he mean he and others people suffer to understand each others and being forced to use that superficial thing he hate to be accepted thing to bring people around
i think the culture of japan make their language hard to translate into english
@@nerdonspeed3493 it's english fault for not keeping up with Japanese
Gotta rewatch this shit.
This is where men cries.
Hachiman is an Apostle of Greed. He has a never ending thirst for knowledge.
Is it just me, or did you actually use filter and enhance the voice a little bit?
He said that in the description boi
Just like me fr fr.
most sad scene in the full anime😢💔
Ik
And also the relieving moment once and for all
I want something genuine
We all need hope as what Hachiman got but what we get is what he had but not hope. the really wrongful youth should be mine not his .
Hikigaya in episode 9......
This scene gave me mixed feelings
ive finished the entire series and it was great, but would somebody mind actually explaining what he meant by wanting the "real thing" cause I never understood it
He wants something genuine. A connection with someone that isn't founded on facades, lies and self deceptions.
His past experiences has left him scarred, and so he no longer trusts the words and actions of people that try to get close to him at face value. He always assumes ulterior motives and consciously observes his environment and the situations he's in to protect himself from getting deceived and hurt again. Despite all this, he still desires human connection. A genuine one.
One that isn't based on or full of facades and self deceptions. To have that understanding and trust in someone, that what they say to him and do with him at face value is what they truly mean, without any hint of ulterior motives or facades that he could misinterpret as something else. He wants to fully understand someone, to get that peace of mind. Because having that constant awareness of your surroundings and the worst assumptions of people to protect yourself sure is mentally exausting and tbh its just pure toxic and unhealthy.
@@Filimaua13 i did kinda get the point shortly after my comment but this explanation was super great, appreciate it
@@Filimaua13Perfect Explanation. Thanks ❤
blud I took Hachiman's bad path 😭😭
These are my views so shut up:
I keep coming back to this scene and you want to know why? Its my favourite scene. It shows us that Hachimans "mask" is starting to break and this is something he GENUINLY wants. His tears really help him hit his pointbhone tbh.
You can't call this mask if he himself don't know his real self or what he wants
anyone know what light novel volume has this scene ?
Volume 9
:(
What episode is this
What is similar between me and hachiman is...
"When it comes to losing, I am the strongest"
What u understand from it
a masterpiece scene ruined by terrible subs
How so? Seemed fine to me
Nevermore To say the truth, if you know a little of japanese you will see that this version of the Sub is the most "genuine" to what he really is saying.
can you tell me what he meant then?
exactly...
SideFlame, it's really just the end of the thing where he says that he wants "something genuine," not "the real thing,"
Episode?
8 i think
What is the “real thing” ?
there's no real thing, its something imposible that nobody can make it but even if its imposible 8man is asking for it because is all that we want, a genuine relationship. (i'm sorry if i don't speak english very well)
he wants a deep level of understanding in the sense of understanding and being understood by them, but it's impossible because of the realities of human life
Can someone please explain why he was crying infront of them? 😭
after all the trouble and making him as the victim for the solution, he hopes to get the sincerity he is looking for
75k 8y 180 subs
I dont understand what he said, can someone explain please😅
He just wants something real and special for him, that's all.
Embarassing 😱😱😱😱😱.....Hikkiiiiiii.......🤦😶😂
A bit late but isnt it yui that actually gave him something genuine.. she expressed how she felt even if she knows it might destroy her friendship with yukino and expressed that she doesnt want that friendship to end.. even if she looked like she is selfish she stayed true to herself.. yukino on the other hand decided to step back because she values her friendship with yuigahama.. she chose to lie to herself to be the nice girl.. in the end maybe hachiman is correct.. the nice girl is a lie and the selfish ones are the ones who are genuine.. except in the end he chose the nice girl.. he chose the lie..
mmm i see what you mean, very interesting thought! but hopefully u won't mind if i counter something u said? yui never actually wanted anything genuine. she says it herself in s3. i forget which episode it was exactly, but it's there. also! there are many reasons why yukino tried so hard to cut ties with yui and hikigaya. it's not just cuz she wanted to play the "nice girl" and did not want to end her friendship with yui. in fact, she was under a lot of pressure. first, we have yukino's sister, haruno, who kept on describing their current group dynamic as "codependency," which luckily didn't change yui's and hikigaya's way of doing things (yui denied haruno about them being "codependent" immediately after their convo while hikigaya had hiratsuka sensei assure him that it's not codependency and that haruno was just spewing nonsense just to see some action to happen). however, knowing how much influence haruno has on yukino as her respectable nee-san, and how yukino was going through a stage of character development in the series at the time (her desire to prove to her mother that she is independent and no longer the indecisive daughter she was before), haruno somehow effectively caused yukino to think that she is actually being codependent and that their relationship is not authentic at all. this caused yukino to think that the relationship she had with yui and hikki weren't as close as she thought... her feelings for hikigaya may have not been as "real" as she thought and were just there because of the codependency bs haruno came up with. consequently, yukino decided that it'd be best for her to distant herself to end the root cause of their "superficial" relationship - this supposed codependency. since she promised hikigaya to grant his request of "wanting something genuine," yukino wanted to fulfill his request by sacrificing her own feelings (funnily this was also how s1 and s2 hikigaya handled club requests) and allowing yui have the final say. i'd have to emphasize that yui confessing wasn't quite the "genuine" they all meant, because she knew from the very beginning that if hikigaya dated her, their relationship wouldn't be the "genuine" hikigaya would've wanted. their relationship would be one-sided and therefore a little forced. yui wanted it regardless. on the other hand, we all know that hikigaya's the type who never liked superficial relationships to begin with and wanted to avoid such relationships as much as possible. yukino may have ran away from the truth, but she did so because she had her reasons- one of them was to grant hikigaya's his desired "genuine". in the end, yukino was the one who wanted to follow hikigaya's "genuine" path, it was just that the whole idea of codependency threw her off, causing her to suppress her feelings without even noticing it herself. it's not a lie, but suppression. if u think yukino is a liar, watch the last episode of s3 where she confesses uwu. she loves him and definitely won't lie about it without a valid reason. ;)
I dont really understand pls somebody explain it to me T-T
Yeah
he wants the real thing
@@russiafart21 you mean like s*x?
@@shiningeditedmoon no, he wants a real relationship with people, not shitty friendship with a dude or a girl that if you say something wrong is all over. He wants real friends and thats why he ask something genuine.
@@russiafart21 ooooh k then thx
Mannnn i know yall people like this 💩 but they kind of bitched him at the end of the show. He was fine the way he was first episode.
Nah wtf what show did you watched
@@offitzzJ_ they changed his whole personality through the season, I get character development but come on. It's like they forced a change in him cause every one else in the show didn't like the way he was, why tf he had to change for them 😐😑. If anything they could have left him the hell alone
@@dyshawmboldin5203his original bitter attitude was from getting rejected by girls in middle school and not reading and socializing with them properly.
He even decided this year he would remake his image and get along with people but the car accident happened causing him to miss school after it started while he was recovering in the hospital. When he returned to school, He felt like an outsider again and just gave up having any friends.
So his pessimistic and self sacrificing attitude was him just lying to himself to justify his rotten attitude.