Thanks for doing these vids, it's nice to have something to send people to that argue that pedal boosters are a remedy for the throttle pedal lag. I find that easing (
@@ffblegendalfa does everything precise. So yes the 10% method is accurate. Its for safe in engagement as far as hp. But if your already applying pressure on the pedal the gear box postions itself and the turbo mid spools.
This is an excellent video displaying the exact issue I am having with my Giulia 2.0T (though the forums seem to indicate this happens on the Quadrifoglios too). It is maddening to floor the pedal quickly from a stop and have the car lazily crawl forward for half a second before it wakes up and actually starts increasing the revs. I find it legitimately dangerous at intersections where a quick turn from a stop is necessary. On the forums I have read some theories that this issue is partly caused by the transmission tuning intervening and trying to manage torque. I have read claims that leaving the car in gear in manual mode reduces the tip-in lag but I believe this video demonstrates that this issue is not strictly transmission related, and it is certainly not turbo lag related. I will have to do more experimenting in manual mode in 1st gear to see if it really does fix the issue. Alternatively, I have read and noticed myself that the car seems to prefer a slow roll onto the throttle to get going rather than just mashing it - sadly I am a ham-fisted, lead-footed, ape who just wants car to go fast when I press gas hard. In my head I know that this initial tip-in throttle lag can't truly be fixed with a throttle controller but I am so disappointed that this behavior is baked into the Giulia that I am probably gonna buy a throttle controller anyways just to rule it out as a possibility. I am desperately hoping it can be improved or at least convince my monkey-brain that the problem is minimized. Thank you for posting this bhvrdr.
@@bhvrdr Thank you for doing all the hard work of making these videos! I'm happy to add to the discussion around this topic. Looking at your other Giulia videos on your channel, it looks like you went pretty far down the tuning rabbit hole - did you find this tip-in lag ever got better with the JB4 or any other tuning?
@@Cpt_Gantu hi there. Unfortunately using jb4 or even the madness pedal controller doesn't fix the initial delay. It seems the only way to work around it easily is to slightly brake boost in situations like pulling out from a parking lot into a fast moving roadway to safely and quickly merge into traffic. On other cars changing the throttle body and or porting it can also help but I never tried that in these
I have the new euro drive f.r pedal control , and it definitely makes my Giulia more fun. You can dial it in to where it feels best. There will always be turbo lag because it is a turbo car, but this helps.
Great video and nice car! I just got the sprint booster after a lot of research and it actually does reduce throttle lag (watch Vids on how quickly the throttle body opens with it). Most others are only modulators which doesn't do much if you press the pedal 20% it thinks you pressed 40%. Might as well press 40% and save your money
Do you find that the Sprint Booster really helps with the initial tip-in throttle lag that bhvrdr is displaying in this video? I found the Sprint Booster advertisement videos you were talking about like this one: th-cam.com/video/8u7lIJfWc6U/w-d-xo.html It looks promising but I remain skeptical that it actually works exactly as advertised. I would love to find a video of someone with a throttle controller installed performing the same testing that bhvrdr does in this video.
@@Cpt_Gantu the pedal is more sensitive and responsive for sure. I use it a lot when I need to pass someone (no hesitation or delay in shifting). Here is another good video that explains th-cam.com/video/D7kEyw9BJyo/w-d-xo.html I also like how you can disable your throttle for added security.
@@bhvrdr ah okay, not sure this is something I'd be able to do myself, would BMW do it for me under warranty if I say there is significant throttle lag?
@@dontstealmypenguin very doubtful they will but it doesn't hurt to ppint it out to them. They will likely at least clean the throttle body to see if it was sticking a bit
@@bhvrdr right thanks for your replies! Basically I've just bought an approved used from them, don't think the last car I drove really had this lag so it's kind of bothering me but according to to the internet it just seems to be standard on these cars, especially automatics. I love driving but really don't know much about cars so if you think of anything easy that could help let me know. How much would it cost to port the throttle body?
@@dontstealmypenguin probably a couple hundred bucks. Its worth seeing if its dirty or gummed up but yeah i suspect it could just be the design. I see it in alot of cars.
Love this video I’m not a big car guy but this actually blew my mind never realized how much lag there actually was.
Thanks for doing these vids, it's nice to have something to send people to that argue that pedal boosters are a remedy for the throttle pedal lag. I find that easing (
Thanks for the feedback man.
@@bhvrdr So overall, don't buy a pedal booster from Euro or Mad?
@@ffblegend im not certain of their quality. I cant comment. Check with folks who have on the forums. They may be decent ones.
@@ffblegendalfa does everything precise. So yes the 10% method is accurate. Its for safe in engagement as far as hp. But if your already applying pressure on the pedal the gear box postions itself and the turbo mid spools.
This is an excellent video displaying the exact issue I am having with my Giulia 2.0T (though the forums seem to indicate this happens on the Quadrifoglios too).
It is maddening to floor the pedal quickly from a stop and have the car lazily crawl forward for half a second before it wakes up and actually starts increasing the revs. I find it legitimately dangerous at intersections where a quick turn from a stop is necessary.
On the forums I have read some theories that this issue is partly caused by the transmission tuning intervening and trying to manage torque. I have read claims that leaving the car in gear in manual mode reduces the tip-in lag but I believe this video demonstrates that this issue is not strictly transmission related, and it is certainly not turbo lag related.
I will have to do more experimenting in manual mode in 1st gear to see if it really does fix the issue. Alternatively, I have read and noticed myself that the car seems to prefer a slow roll onto the throttle to get going rather than just mashing it - sadly I am a ham-fisted, lead-footed, ape who just wants car to go fast when I press gas hard.
In my head I know that this initial tip-in throttle lag can't truly be fixed with a throttle controller but I am so disappointed that this behavior is baked into the Giulia that I am probably gonna buy a throttle controller anyways just to rule it out as a possibility. I am desperately hoping it can be improved or at least convince my monkey-brain that the problem is minimized.
Thank you for posting this bhvrdr.
Thank you for the great feedback
@@bhvrdr Thank you for doing all the hard work of making these videos! I'm happy to add to the discussion around this topic.
Looking at your other Giulia videos on your channel, it looks like you went pretty far down the tuning rabbit hole - did you find this tip-in lag ever got better with the JB4 or any other tuning?
@@Cpt_Gantu hi there. Unfortunately using jb4 or even the madness pedal controller doesn't fix the initial delay. It seems the only way to work around it easily is to slightly brake boost in situations like pulling out from a parking lot into a fast moving roadway to safely and quickly merge into traffic. On other cars changing the throttle body and or porting it can also help but I never tried that in these
@Cpt_gantu - Did you end up trying a pedal booster?
Thanks for taking ur time and share your knowledge .
Much appreciated
You bet! Thank you for the comment!
I have the new euro drive f.r pedal control , and it definitely makes my Giulia more fun. You can dial it in to where it feels best. There will always be turbo lag because it is a turbo car, but this helps.
Great video and nice car! I just got the sprint booster after a lot of research and it actually does reduce throttle lag (watch Vids on how quickly the throttle body opens with it). Most others are only modulators which doesn't do much if you press the pedal 20% it thinks you pressed 40%. Might as well press 40% and save your money
Do you find that the Sprint Booster really helps with the initial tip-in throttle lag that bhvrdr is displaying in this video? I found the Sprint Booster advertisement videos you were talking about like this one: th-cam.com/video/8u7lIJfWc6U/w-d-xo.html
It looks promising but I remain skeptical that it actually works exactly as advertised. I would love to find a video of someone with a throttle controller installed performing the same testing that bhvrdr does in this video.
@@Cpt_Gantu the pedal is more sensitive and responsive for sure. I use it a lot when I need to pass someone (no hesitation or delay in shifting). Here is another good video that explains th-cam.com/video/D7kEyw9BJyo/w-d-xo.html
I also like how you can disable your throttle for added security.
Appreciate this man!!!
Nice, thanks for the video
The mileage on your car was exactly 6666 at the time of this video.
Good catch lol
So there is no way to eliminate that slight lag between the gas pedal and throttle body
I've seen porting the throttle body help woth it but no controller is going to do much for it
@@bhvrdr ah okay, not sure this is something I'd be able to do myself, would BMW do it for me under warranty if I say there is significant throttle lag?
@@dontstealmypenguin very doubtful they will but it doesn't hurt to ppint it out to them. They will likely at least clean the throttle body to see if it was sticking a bit
@@bhvrdr right thanks for your replies! Basically I've just bought an approved used from them, don't think the last car I drove really had this lag so it's kind of bothering me but according to to the internet it just seems to be standard on these cars, especially automatics. I love driving but really don't know much about cars so if you think of anything easy that could help let me know. How much would it cost to port the throttle body?
@@dontstealmypenguin probably a couple hundred bucks. Its worth seeing if its dirty or gummed up but yeah i suspect it could just be the design. I see it in alot of cars.
remapping the ecu would do the job.
Wordd?
Ty for video, but not for those shoes
They're soooo comfortable
This is bull and should not be legal
U got an Alfa, thats the problem
So why watch