Firstly I don't: - have a nagging significant other. - children - own a house - any other serious financial responsibilities However, the older I get, the more I appreciate reasonably priced quality gear like this.
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It's actually pretty damn nice to hear about alternatives when it comes to bike parts. I know the major players but there seems to be a LOT more out there that I'm not aware of.
We hope we have the same luck on our Acolyte 8spd groupset we just put on the GT. Budget mountain biking is just getting better and better. Thanks for the long term review.
I'm running two Advents and one Advent X, it's so much less fiddly than everything else, it's not perfect, but it works damn good, is reliable and is priced great.
I'm shopping right now for a new drivetrain for an older dirt jump bike that I converted to street. I went to the local bike shop the other day and they told me about this. Now I'm here watching videos. It's definitely got me interested
I got that same drivetrain! It doesn’t shift AS smooth as like an slx, takes more power to click it up “might just need adjustment” but the clutch and the big cassette is a GAME CHANGER my bike it finally quite lol
My bike has a Shimano SLX drivetrain 11 speed. The cassette is worn and debating just replacing the cassette or going with a whole new drivetrain. Is it worth it?
Every time I come to this channel I watch your entire video then get inspired at the end when you remind me to get off my butt and ride. Dude, you're killing it. Keep the videos coming!
I put advent Microshift 1x9 on in July for $200 installed on 2020 Giant Talon3 hardtail. Absoluty amazing upgrade over 2x drivetrain that bike came with. Changed cranks & 32 tooth narrow wide the bike is absolutly a dream 2 ride now! Would recommend 2 anyone looking save some $$ over sram & crap shimano & looks great over 500kms no probs & no adjustments works perfect!
I installed a microshift Advent 9 on my hardtail and went for 11 to 42 tooth. I use my bike every day for commuting and on the weekend for mountainbiking. I haven't re adjusted my cable or anything after about 1000km (don't know how much this is in miles😅). For average trail riding this cassette is enough to get a big smile on your face for a long time.
Peter, sounds like you are using your bike how I would use mine. I have a 3x9 system now. Is your system now a 1x9 or...? If a 1x, what front chainring do you run? Thanks!
@@richarde1355 I run a 1x, had a 3x9 previously on there. I went with a 32 tooth chainring. In the highest gear it really isn't a problem to keep up with traffic. Of course you have to pedal a bit harder to go really fast but you don't notice it after some time. Now after the winter I can say, buy the 11 to 46 tooth cassette. The extra bit of range is worth it especially in winter and when you start making progress with the bike.
@@richarde1355 also I stick to shimano e bike certified chains. My local bike shop told me they're a bit tougher in terms of durability. And don't choose fall or winter to set the drivetrain up, use the spring or summer so you can enjoy the first couple of kilometres to the max. ;)
I just installed the Advent X and it was a huge upgrade to my old shimano acera 3x8 drivetrain. Affordable and works great. Looking forward to hitting it a little harder this weekend to see how it holds up. Thanks for the video!
Ive had the 9 spd version for almost a year now and it has been perfect. I'll continue using Microshift going forward and put the savings towards better suspension or wheels
@@DailyMTBRider everyone has their own criteria, but mine is does it shift well? Does it stay in tune? Does it have good chain retention? Is it reliable? The Advent tics all those boxes for me so why spend more?
To be fair, M6100 or even SLX is not that much more in price, but quite a bit heavier and the 12 speed use microspline, which I see as a negative too. And yeah, I got me some Horizon V2 wheels. Not super budget, but pretty crazy engagement for that price range. I think that will serve me better than a little better shifting feel.
AdventX is such a great groupset, i have it setup on two bikes, my full squish 99 Homegrown 4 banger (trail pro shifter and alloy cassette), and on my rigid Schwinn Jaguar(trail shifter and steel cassette). its awesome on both bikes. Best drivetrain on the market, especially older bikes!
My son and grandson both run the Advent X drivetrain and so far they have been flawless. I am even more of a cheapskate than they and I have been running an LTwoo A7 groupset which I paid like $60 for and also have had no issues. The LTwoo has no clutch, however when I use the park tool basic chain length calculator I find that chain slap is pretty much eliminated anyway. In low gear it really stretches the derailleur out there!
I got the Box Two 11 speed 11-50 this summer and it’s pretty great, got it for $180. Other than electronic shifting the performance gains on high end or 12 speed drivetrains is negligible, and comes with more maintenance
I’ll probably get this. I’m done fiddling with my SLX drivetrain The clutch is it’s weakness. If you adjust clutch tension properly, it will then give you poor and very stiff shifting.
Wow! I’m really impressed that the drivetrain held up as well. I am running a box 11 Speed Dr. train on my Hardtail And I really really like it. But on sale, it was about $100 more than what your Advent X was. Thank you so much for the review and for all of your amazing content.
Hey I saw you up on the mountain today on cedar Dust I was going to say hi but you left after one run but you encouraged me to send all of the black line today thanks and Love the vids
I just sold my SRAM 1x12 NX/GX combo drivetrain and replaced it with the Advent X. Only put 10 miles on it so far but I am very very impressed. I think it feels better than the NX/GX combo, especially the shifter. I find the shifter to feel *very* good, lots of feedback and click which I like. Also it just feels better on my feet than the old 1x12 rig, potentially because it's a steel cassette? And lastly, the indexing between gears is great-- you don't have to cycle through those gears you don't really need on a 12 speed, you just shift once or twice and are in the gear you probably want to be in. I'm stoked on it.
I put the Advent on one of my bikes because that's the biggest that would fit and absolutely love it so I would imagine I would love the Advent X as well. You can't beat the price point as well. It sure as heck beats shelling out the cash for 12 speed and then possibly having to upgrade the freehub body. It's also interesting how you have an Evil bike and people pick up on the drivetrain and talk about that more than the bike itself.
I have an AdventX drivetrain waiting to go on a bike rebuild. I have heard other users suggest using an 11-speed chain instead of a 10. Seems that your 10-speed chain has worked just fine. Thanks for the review.
I love mine. Doesn’t shift very well under load(think hard gear pedaling uphill and shifting to an easier gear) so be nice to it and it’ll work. The shifter doesn’t feel as clicks and responsive as sram but who cares. If I case a jump the chain sometimes ghosts shifts up a gear. I did have my cranks lock up on my once because the chain cog between the frame and the cassette. I added an E13 chain tensioner/guide. This drivetrain was more for long fire road climbs and then descents.
Thanks for the heads up about this shift group! I tellya I am disappointed with SRAM's NX derailleurs. My first one got play in it after a few months use, so it would not shift properly. Had to switch over to a GX derailleur. Then I had NX on a demo bike one time and the derailleur bent itself up after 1km JRA - too much stamped steel in the NX garbage. Better off with this AdventX stuff I bet!
I'm feeling this video.. just bought a sync'r cause 50% off new.. no brainer.. I was bummed to see it had a 12 speed Sram SX drive train though. As a newbie mountain biker, why did the community get away from 2 and 3x drive trains for simplicity just to go to a 12 speed that's finicky and arguably will have more issues (already seeing issues with mine). I would have have preferred a durable 8-10 speed with a 48-51 high end. Maybe I can buy the AdventX and sell the Sram gear to pay for the swap ? We shall see
All the half price deals on top tier 10speed chains awaits you if you go 10sp. I just had my first top chain and gotta say you can easily feel the difference in quality. Even the quicklink in KMC is much tighter and stays that for much longer, than on their budget chains which I rode a lot. Would love Advent X for myself, bodging Deore 10speed with XT shifter is nice, but the shifting ain't perfect on 11-46 cassette.
I’d love to give this setup a try (as I’ve heard and read so many great things about it), but have been unable to find it in stock for a VERY long time. Distribution/supplier issues (not too mention COVID-19) have kept this company from really taking some market share away from SRAM and Shimano.
Seems like a very good option for a hardtail with 27.5. I have no experience with this particular drive train but as someone who isn't the best climber, I really appreciate the eagle gear on my 29er.
Older vid but I just ordered the Advent X groupset for my Schwinn AL comp, after doing a bit of research I decided on going with an 11spd chain as I heard it helps eliminate that crunching sound some people were complaining about, should have it on in a week or so..if anyone's interested I will update
Very cool, i went with a similar set up but I went with Box Components and I got their 11 speed kit, it came with an 11-50 cassette derailleur with clutch and shifter. I got it for $170. Set up the same as any other drive train i just wanted to try a different drive train other than sram or shimano
The other thing about 10 speed is that you can take the chain of with the link over and over. Unlike with the 12 speed the chain quick link is good for one use. I like to dunk my chain in a mason jar for cleaning after every ride.
@@richarde1355 it completely cleans it out in between the pins. I did not fully explain myself but I dunk the chain in gasoline or some similar solvent and it gets everything out from all the rollers and pins and none of that grit can wear out your chain and it rolls very smoothly.
I'd still go with the shimano deore groep set, only costs 200, great clutch, 12 speed, Shimano has the best shifting under load from any company and the deore is no exception, bigger range. The only negative thing is that you need microspline, another excuse to install a better hub.
I was just able to finally find it in stock and I ordered it! I’ll probably be installing Saturday, do you have any tips when installing? I’m worried about getting my cranks apart and not having the right pieces to attach my new chainring (coming from 2x9). My other concern will be the new chain line if I don’t use spacers
Have heard about the Micro Shift Advent, but I went with Box Components Prime 9 personal preference. Nothing against Micro Shift Advent X but are difficult to find at local bike shops, they mentioned box components prime 9 two so I went with it, and never went back.
I disagree with the grit issue. I believe that is a function of whatever chain lube you are using. Clean that chain next time and try a different lube. Try several until you hit the sweet spot.
Maybe this will be my my next drivetrain, once I wear out the SRAM NX Eagle, which was on my bike when I bought it. I've found that I do not really need 12 speeds, nor a 50 tooth granny gear. IIRC 11-48 is just about the perfect range for me. I have tested SRAM EX-1, but 8 speeds is just a bit too few and the price is pretty terrible. Thanks for a good review.
Ok so me and my friend we live in the Eastern part of washington in a small town of colville like 70 miles from Spokane and we are rideing out our Wal-Mart bikes we love your videos and also Berm Creak with Seth keep up the good work😃😃
Awesome video! How’s the climb with this advent X ? Right now I’m rocking a GT aggressor pro 3x8. Will it be worth it to make the change to an Advent X 1x10? Thxs!
Yes do it you won't regret it. I had 3x9 on my specialized pitch comp and upgraded to advent 1x9 with 11-42t cassette almost 2 years ago and havnt looked back. It's my commuter bike now and I've put thousands of miles on the drivetrain. I've ridden 130 miles in one day on it I've put it through hub deep water, I've put it through some nasty conditions and it works better than the gx eagle on my mtb. Advent X is even better, lighter and more range which solves my only complaints with the 9 speed advent. The clutch is also way better than sram or shimano.
Josh, thanks again for another quality video! Does one need or have to use the Microshift cassettes for the group set to work properly? I have a 2010 Kona Kula Supreme - an amazing XC hardtail at just over 23 pounds with a Rockshox SID World Cup and 3x9. The group set needs replaced, and I am wrestling around with what to use, and Microshift is a contender. This bike would be my one-bike-quiver crossover light PNW trail/urban bike. I’m fit but in my 50’s, so crazy trail ripping is behind me. Any thoughts or perspectives you can share? I appreciate your wisdom and candor you share and all the work you put into your videos.
i just found out my 3x drivetrain chainrings were bent so figured id upgrade to a one by and this is the one what front chainring would you recommend for under $25 and love the channel
Nice review Josh, it's def something I'll most likely pickup for my Scout or next ride! Rather save the money on a drivetrain & put money into other parts, which will most likely save more weight overall (if that's a concern). I've been running an old XT 10spd with a 32t up front & max 42t in the rear that shifts meh, so anything will feel better to me! Might have to take the new Evil for a spin....for testing purposes, of course ;)
I swapped in a 1x10 speed Shimano Deore M6000 set up on my hardtail and I love it but its a heavy! Also its highest cog is a 42t. Wish the advent x would have been around when I upgraded.
I have the 9 speed advent on my commuter bike with the 11-42. I do agree that it is pretty heavy and not quite enough range for a mtb but the advent X solves both problems.
@@kentquindt7898 11-42t is not bad. I run 11-42t 10spd on a 27.5 and a 29er and it's pretty good for me. Once I take our new 12-46t 8spd out I might change my mind though 😂.
Thank you for yet another quality Daily MTB Rider video! I have a super simple question. I believe I read somewhere the Microshift Advent drivetrains function best with Microshift cassettes. I already have some Shimano and Sundance 42 tooth cassettes; wouldn’t the Advent X derailleur work fine with them?
This creates some interesting comparisons. The new Shimano Deore 10 speed may be slightly less expensive with an 11-46 cassette, the new Deore 11 speed is about $25 more expensive with a 11-51 cassette. This is for the RD, Shifter, Cassette combo, so same parts as the Advent X. I also wonder if Microshift is looking into a 12 speed that could run on an existing 12 speed cassette such as sunrace or NX Eagle.
Looks great! Don't really see why you'd want to get something better, at least for most riders. Even Deore is quite a bit more expensive right? That beeing said, Deore ofers a better upgrade path so I guess that's one point in favour of the bigger brands.
I'm running multiple deore m5100s as 7 speeds. I can gen cassette, sprocket and chain for $55 Canadian. I buy 8 speed cassettes and save the 11 tooth's for single speed😂 the entire 9to12 speed shit is a cash grab. You can buy an 8 speed 11 to 42 tooth on amazon for 25 bucks
Have you tried the Box 4 Groupset? I just purchased it for the same exact price as this AdventX groupset, and just installed it last night, but you have me 2nd guessing myself and wondering if maybe I should return the Box groupset and get this AdventX groupset.
I have the advent x 9 speed and the derailleur has a big big Scratch and it didnt even bend the derailleur hanger, also bcs of dutch weather and daily use (moslty bcs salt on the road) my chaim rusted to a goner bcs i didnt use it or cleaned it after (big sad) so i have a lot of rust spots still on the cassette after cleaning it my best without taking it off.
Josh, a little help with opinion, please. I currently have an X-7 on a 1x, and the X-7 isn’t compatible with the heating range I need. I want to swap the SRAM with either the Advent X shifted and RD or the Shimano M4100 shifter/M5120 RD. Without considering the price difference, what are your thoughts on which would be a better performing setup? I plan to use 42 to 48T cassettes (I have more than one set of wheels - one set up for gravel trails, one for hills). Your opinions as valued and appreciated! Thanks!
I am skeptic, cus of what I've seen, I have a 11-50T Sunrace I managed to bend cogs, teeth, and has paly, so I advice against that one too. but I already have 11-46T surnace cassettes so might put those on and get 30T chainring , I use 32T oval now.
Low Cost Brakes? Can you recommend any low cost brakes (but good gripping) to pair with this excellent low cost drive train? Building inexpensive mud bike. Thanks.
The shifter comparison make sense; but I am looking for a low-cost replacement for Sram XX1 or Shimano XTR drivetrain. Comparing the MicroSHIFT to Sram GX or Shimano XT is great, but can it compare to the top-line Sram and Shimano?
How's the chain life? I ran a 9-speed drivetrain for a while, but I found myself having to get a new chain every 300 miles compared to my 1500+ miles on a 11 or 12-speed.
Any thoughts on how it will handle the desert chunky jank of my local trails in Grand Junction. I’ve replaced five derailleurs in the last four seasons... admittedly it’s my fault for hitting rocks.
Off topic, but I don't understand how you fit a 30t chainring or an STFU silencer on that bike 🤷♂️ I threw a 30t on mine but the chain rubbed the front edge of the chainstay. I could only fit the front STFU silencer. I wasn't able to get clearance from the rear through all 12 gears so I had to remove it. That might be because of the size difference between your cassette and an X01, I suppose. I kept the front silencer and added rubber tape mounds toward the back. Nice and quiet now, at least 👍
@@DailyMTBRider I know what it is, I just haven’t seen an in depth review with close ups of the chain line etc. I suppose I could actually try searching to see if someone has already done it though👍
Deore 1x11 derailleur - offering the same gear range - turns out to cost half as much as Advent X derailleur. And the derailleur is what gets damaged most often.
Firstly I don't:
- have a nagging significant other.
- children
- own a house
- any other serious financial responsibilities
However, the older I get, the more I appreciate reasonably priced quality gear like this.
So true my friend!
Same here , brother .... 56 years old and still happy with myself ...... ain't broken , don't fix it .
Umm...ok.
I love my Advent X drivetrains also.
Same here. After 8 months and 700 miles, it’s still going well.
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@Marlon Tristen instablaster ;)
Where can you buy it?
@@aaron___6014 Universal Cycles has them
It's actually pretty damn nice to hear about alternatives when it comes to bike parts. I know the major players but there seems to be a LOT more out there that I'm not aware of.
Ikr wtf is sensah
We hope we have the same luck on our Acolyte 8spd groupset we just put on the GT. Budget mountain biking is just getting better and better. Thanks for the long term review.
I'm running two Advents and one Advent X, it's so much less fiddly than everything else, it's not perfect, but it works damn good, is reliable and is priced great.
Buy it - I own it - I love it!!!!!! Imagine, 5 years into the future, 2025 Microshift Advent X-AXS
I'm looking forward to that day!
I've already heard rumors of GX eagle AXS in the next year or so
@@mrvwbug4423 nice
2025? Gonna be 14speed by then LoL
Where did you hear that. I am all ears!
I'm shopping right now for a new drivetrain for an older dirt jump bike that I converted to street. I went to the local bike shop the other day and they told me about this. Now I'm here watching videos. It's definitely got me interested
I got that same drivetrain! It doesn’t shift AS smooth as like an slx, takes more power to click it up “might just need adjustment” but the clutch and the big cassette is a GAME CHANGER my bike it finally quite lol
It really is a top notch drivetrain for the price!
How did u got it a rode it the video has been out for like 2 hours
@@antoanangelov5672 I’ve had it for about a month
My bike has a Shimano SLX drivetrain 11 speed. The cassette is worn and debating just replacing the cassette or going with a whole new drivetrain. Is it worth it?
@@dirtycommtroop i would suggest just getting a new cassette, a new drivetrain can get really expensive pretty fast
I got an all Shimano Deore clutched derailleur, chain, shifter and 11-42 cassette for $120 on ebay. Works really well too.
Which model did you get? Was the cassette a Shimano cassette or another brand? Thanks!
Yup, it's easy to become a snob in cycling... thank you for keeping me grounded with this and other reviews. I do like quality gear for less money ;)
Every time I come to this channel I watch your entire video then get inspired at the end when you remind me to get off my butt and ride.
Dude, you're killing it. Keep the videos coming!
Thanks for your kind words Trevor! That's always the hope is that people get stoked to ride!
I put advent Microshift 1x9 on in July for $200 installed on 2020 Giant Talon3 hardtail. Absoluty amazing upgrade over 2x drivetrain that bike came with. Changed cranks & 32 tooth narrow wide the bike is absolutly a dream 2 ride now! Would recommend 2 anyone looking save some $$ over sram & crap shimano & looks great over 500kms no probs & no adjustments works perfect!
I installed a microshift Advent 9 on my hardtail and went for 11 to 42 tooth. I use my bike every day for commuting and on the weekend for mountainbiking. I haven't re adjusted my cable or anything after about 1000km (don't know how much this is in miles😅). For average trail riding this cassette is enough to get a big smile on your face for a long time.
Peter, sounds like you are using your bike how I would use mine. I have a 3x9 system now. Is your system now a 1x9 or...? If a 1x, what front chainring do you run?
Thanks!
@@richarde1355 I run a 1x, had a 3x9 previously on there. I went with a 32 tooth chainring. In the highest gear it really isn't a problem to keep up with traffic. Of course you have to pedal a bit harder to go really fast but you don't notice it after some time. Now after the winter I can say, buy the 11 to 46 tooth cassette. The extra bit of range is worth it especially in winter and when you start making progress with the bike.
@@richarde1355 also I stick to shimano e bike certified chains. My local bike shop told me they're a bit tougher in terms of durability. And don't choose fall or winter to set the drivetrain up, use the spring or summer so you can enjoy the first couple of kilometres to the max. ;)
I just installed the Advent X and it was a huge upgrade to my old shimano acera 3x8 drivetrain. Affordable and works great. Looking forward to hitting it a little harder this weekend to see how it holds up. Thanks for the video!
i used to keep bending the drivetrains haha. pedalling a downhill bike uphill was too hard on them and bends them as they arent forged or high tensile
nice I was looking for something like that thanks,love your channel
Thanks man! It really is a great drivetrain!
Ive had the 9 spd version for almost a year now and it has been perfect. I'll continue using Microshift going forward and put the savings towards better suspension or wheels
You took the words out of my mouth! It's better to save money and spend it elsewhere!
@@DailyMTBRider everyone has their own criteria, but mine is does it shift well? Does it stay in tune? Does it have good chain retention? Is it reliable? The Advent tics all those boxes for me so why spend more?
To be fair, M6100 or even SLX is not that much more in price, but quite a bit heavier and the 12 speed use microspline, which I see as a negative too.
And yeah, I got me some Horizon V2 wheels. Not super budget, but pretty crazy engagement for that price range. I think that will serve me better than a little better shifting feel.
AdventX is such a great groupset, i have it setup on two bikes, my full squish 99 Homegrown 4 banger (trail pro shifter and alloy cassette), and on my rigid Schwinn Jaguar(trail shifter and steel cassette). its awesome on both bikes. Best drivetrain on the market, especially older bikes!
My son and grandson both run the Advent X drivetrain and so far they have been flawless. I am even more of a cheapskate than they and I have been running an LTwoo A7 groupset which I paid like $60 for and also have had no issues. The LTwoo has no clutch, however when I use the park tool basic chain length calculator I find that chain slap is pretty much eliminated anyway. In low gear it really stretches the derailleur out there!
Put one of these on my wife's bike, and she loves it. When my SLX wears out, I will probs get another.
I got the Box Two 11 speed 11-50 this summer and it’s pretty great, got it for $180. Other than electronic shifting the performance gains on high end or 12 speed drivetrains is negligible, and comes with more maintenance
Really like the look of the Advent X - definitely considering for next purchase. Also, dude, your chain is too short!
I was thinking that. His cage is screaming
It looks like your chain is really tight in that lowest gear
Its crazy tight at 1:05
@@alexanderkaufman183 yeah I’m pretty sure the derailleur is supposed to go the other way when you shift onto the smallest cogs. Idk maybe I’m wrong??
Looks perfect to me for really hard and fast riding.
@@meesterbingbong5641 I think they are refering to the lowest (largest) cog. The 48T.
I thought that. is it because its a short cage derailer?
We pretty much know it’s a great budget drive train, but can’t find it available anywhere. =(
Call a local bike shop and put in a pre-order, some ETAs are getting close, I can get shifters right now, just waiting on the rest!
I see UniversalCycles has the AvdentX stuff online now.
Stocks for components and bikes is still a mess, unfortunately.
Between Universal Cycles, and Cambria bike, I was able to get the groupset in the US by checking stock semi-daily over the course of a week.
WorldWide Cyclery appears to have everything in stock. I realize that I am a month late.
I’ll probably get this.
I’m done fiddling with my SLX drivetrain The clutch is it’s weakness. If you adjust clutch tension properly, it will then give you poor and very stiff shifting.
Wow- getting a wide range cassette on my 8/9/10 speed freehub is a game changer! I was going to replace my 3x10 gears, but now I'll try this!
Wow! I’m really impressed that the drivetrain held up as well. I am running a box 11 Speed Dr. train on my Hardtail And I really really like it. But on sale, it was about $100 more than what your Advent X was. Thank you so much for the review and for all of your amazing content.
Hey I saw you up on the mountain today on cedar Dust I was going to say hi but you left after one run but you encouraged me to send all of the black line today thanks and Love the vids
I just sold my SRAM 1x12 NX/GX combo drivetrain and replaced it with the Advent X. Only put 10 miles on it so far but I am very very impressed. I think it feels better than the NX/GX combo, especially the shifter. I find the shifter to feel *very* good, lots of feedback and click which I like. Also it just feels better on my feet than the old 1x12 rig, potentially because it's a steel cassette? And lastly, the indexing between gears is great-- you don't have to cycle through those gears you don't really need on a 12 speed, you just shift once or twice and are in the gear you probably want to be in. I'm stoked on it.
Hello! Where did you buy the Advent X? Its out of stock everywhere.
@@andysuh7479 I set a back in stock alert with Worldwide Cyclery then bought it the day it came back in stock.
I wish this was available earlier in the year when I was looking around for a 10 sp.
met too! I wasted money on a Prime 9 setup. That shifter is complete GARBAGE!
I put the Advent on one of my bikes because that's the biggest that would fit and absolutely love it so I would imagine I would love the Advent X as well. You can't beat the price point as well. It sure as heck beats shelling out the cash for 12 speed and then possibly having to upgrade the freehub body.
It's also interesting how you have an Evil bike and people pick up on the drivetrain and talk about that more than the bike itself.
Joel Marble, perhaps he didn’t talk about his bike so much because the subject of the video is the MicroShift drivetrain. 🤔
I have an AdventX drivetrain waiting to go on a bike rebuild. I have heard other users suggest using an 11-speed chain instead of a 10. Seems that your 10-speed chain has worked just fine. Thanks for the review.
I think he's going with a smaller cog in the front.
How do I order this? I don’t see a shop on this website on my phone.
I love mine. Doesn’t shift very well under load(think hard gear pedaling uphill and shifting to an easier gear) so be nice to it and it’ll work. The shifter doesn’t feel as clicks and responsive as sram but who cares. If I case a jump the chain sometimes ghosts shifts up a gear. I did have my cranks lock up on my once because the chain cog between the frame and the cassette. I added an E13 chain tensioner/guide. This drivetrain was more for long fire road climbs and then descents.
No one:
Josh’s breaks: EEEEEEAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Haha my brakes want more attention - I made sure they got some!
they kept telling on him lol
wet brakes have to voice their displeasure haha
The group set at 4 am “I am going to die don’t tell anyone”
The brakes on the trail “REEEEEEEEEE”
Group set “darn snitch”
For the price you could get a new drive train twice a year and still be way under the price of on of the bigger companies for a few years.
Hey man, it was cool seeing you today at the top of Cedar dust. Thanks for saying hi and being so friendly. You seem like a genuinely nice guy.
Great to see you as well! Sorry we didn’t stop to chat a little more but hopefully we connect again up there soon!
Been waiting for this in the UK for months now.
Thanks for the heads up about this shift group! I tellya I am disappointed with SRAM's NX derailleurs. My first one got play in it after a few months use, so it would not shift properly. Had to switch over to a GX derailleur. Then I had NX on a demo bike one time and the derailleur bent itself up after 1km JRA - too much stamped steel in the NX garbage. Better off with this AdventX stuff I bet!
I'm feeling this video.. just bought a sync'r cause 50% off new.. no brainer.. I was bummed to see it had a 12 speed Sram SX drive train though. As a newbie mountain biker, why did the community get away from 2 and 3x drive trains for simplicity just to go to a 12 speed that's finicky and arguably will have more issues (already seeing issues with mine). I would have have preferred a durable 8-10 speed with a 48-51 high end. Maybe I can buy the AdventX and sell the Sram gear to pay for the swap ? We shall see
All the half price deals on top tier 10speed chains awaits you if you go 10sp. I just had my first top chain and gotta say you can easily feel the difference in quality. Even the quicklink in KMC is much tighter and stays that for much longer, than on their budget chains which I rode a lot. Would love Advent X for myself, bodging Deore 10speed with XT shifter is nice, but the shifting ain't perfect on 11-46 cassette.
I’d love to give this setup a try (as I’ve heard and read so many great things about it), but have been unable to find it in stock for a VERY long time. Distribution/supplier issues (not too mention COVID-19) have kept this company from really taking some market share away from SRAM and Shimano.
Seems like a very good option for a hardtail with 27.5. I have no experience with this particular drive train but as someone who isn't the best climber, I really appreciate the eagle gear on my 29er.
Good video. I was looking into getting rid of my 3 by system. Didn’t know there was other options other than shimano or that other expensive one.
Older vid but I just ordered the Advent X groupset for my Schwinn AL comp, after doing a bit of research I decided on going with an 11spd chain as I heard it helps eliminate that crunching sound some people were complaining about, should have it on in a week or so..if anyone's interested I will update
Thank you, I'm looking to upgrade my 3x8 to 1x drive train and this video helps!
Great review Josh. I may pick up a set once the Deore XT wears out on my Nomad!
Acolyte works on the 11-48T Advent X 10 speed. Same pull ratio. Save $20
I think its awesome to see good quality at lower price range. When I wear out my cassettes I will start switching over.
Dude thats quieter than most bikes ive heard and mine too. I digg it I'll throw one of these on my kids GF Cake 2.
I have microshift advent x 10 speed on my bike and I love it
Very cool, i went with a similar set up but I went with Box Components and I got their 11 speed kit, it came with an 11-50 cassette derailleur with clutch and shifter. I got it for $170. Set up the same as any other drive train i just wanted to try a different drive train other than sram or shimano
I love how box's design but sadly it isn't available in my country, only choices I have is shimano and sram lol
The other thing about 10 speed is that you can take the chain of with the link over and over. Unlike with the 12 speed the chain quick link is good for one use. I like to dunk my chain in a mason jar for cleaning after every ride.
What does dunking your chain in a Mason jar do for you? 😉
@@richarde1355 it completely cleans it out in between the pins. I did not fully explain myself but I dunk the chain in gasoline or some similar solvent and it gets everything out from all the rollers and pins and none of that grit can wear out your chain and it rolls very smoothly.
I'd still go with the shimano deore groep set, only costs 200, great clutch, 12 speed, Shimano has the best shifting under load from any company and the deore is no exception, bigger range. The only negative thing is that you need microspline, another excuse to install a better hub.
I was just able to finally find it in stock and I ordered it! I’ll probably be installing Saturday, do you have any tips when installing? I’m worried about getting my cranks apart and not having the right pieces to attach my new chainring (coming from 2x9). My other concern will be the new chain line if I don’t use spacers
Have heard about the Micro Shift Advent, but I went with Box Components Prime 9 personal preference. Nothing against Micro Shift Advent X but are difficult to find at local bike shops, they mentioned box components prime 9 two so I went with it, and never went back.
I disagree with the grit issue. I believe that is a function of whatever chain lube you are using. Clean that chain next time and try a different lube. Try several until you hit the sweet spot.
I have it on my gravel bike. I love it. Can't find it in my neck of the woods (Malaysia)...I bought it online from universalcycle (portland oregon)
Maybe this will be my my next drivetrain, once I wear out the SRAM NX Eagle, which was on my bike when I bought it. I've found that I do not really need 12 speeds, nor a 50 tooth granny gear. IIRC 11-48 is just about the perfect range for me. I have tested SRAM EX-1, but 8 speeds is just a bit too few and the price is pretty terrible.
Thanks for a good review.
I have the advent (not x) on my Marin san Quentin and it also is brilliant for a budge DT
Ok so me and my friend we live in the Eastern part of washington in a small town of colville like 70 miles from Spokane and we are rideing out our Wal-Mart bikes we love your videos and also Berm Creak with Seth keep up the good work😃😃
Wow... I’m on Shimano and I love it because of the tight clutch, I think SRAM needs to step up their game in their clutches
Yes, I love my 10s Advent X, so many people can't understand why.
Awesome video! How’s the climb with this advent X ? Right now I’m rocking a GT aggressor pro 3x8. Will it be worth it to make the change to an Advent X 1x10? Thxs!
Yes do it you won't regret it. I had 3x9 on my specialized pitch comp and upgraded to advent 1x9 with 11-42t cassette almost 2 years ago and havnt looked back. It's my commuter bike now and I've put thousands of miles on the drivetrain. I've ridden 130 miles in one day on it I've put it through hub deep water, I've put it through some nasty conditions and it works better than the gx eagle on my mtb. Advent X is even better, lighter and more range which solves my only complaints with the 9 speed advent. The clutch is also way better than sram or shimano.
@@kentquindt7898 Microshift also has a 9speed 11-46 cassette 😉
@@kaedeschulz5422 yea thought about getting that one but they released it right after I replaced the cassette with a new one after it wore out lol
@@kentquindt7898 Damn what a bad timing 😬
@@kaedeschulz5422 always happens to me lol
Josh, thanks again for another quality video!
Does one need or have to use the Microshift cassettes for the group set to work properly?
I have a 2010 Kona Kula Supreme - an amazing XC hardtail at just over 23 pounds with a Rockshox SID World Cup and 3x9. The group set needs replaced, and I am wrestling around with what to use, and Microshift is a contender. This bike would be my one-bike-quiver crossover light PNW trail/urban bike. I’m fit but in my 50’s, so crazy trail ripping is behind me.
Any thoughts or perspectives you can share? I appreciate your wisdom and candor you share and all the work you put into your videos.
i just found out my 3x drivetrain chainrings were bent so figured id upgrade to a one by and this is the one what front chainring would you recommend for under $25 and love the channel
Really interesting to watch! Now I’m going out riding, as you told me🤘🏼
Have been trying get this drivetrain for over a month! Everywhere sells out so fast!
So true! I think the word has traveled fast that everyone loves it!
Nice review Josh, it's def something I'll most likely pickup for my Scout or next ride! Rather save the money on a drivetrain & put money into other parts, which will most likely save more weight overall (if that's a concern). I've been running an old XT 10spd with a 32t up front & max 42t in the rear that shifts meh, so anything will feel better to me! Might have to take the new Evil for a spin....for testing purposes, of course ;)
I'm running deore rd and a xt shifter, i would love to try out those drivetrains
I swapped in a 1x10 speed Shimano Deore M6000 set up on my hardtail and I love it but its a heavy! Also its highest cog is a 42t. Wish the advent x would have been around when I upgraded.
I have the 9 speed advent on my commuter bike with the 11-42. I do agree that it is pretty heavy and not quite enough range for a mtb but the advent X solves both problems.
@@kentquindt7898 11-42t is not bad. I run 11-42t 10spd on a 27.5 and a 29er and it's pretty good for me. Once I take our new 12-46t 8spd out I might change my mind though 😂.
You might be able to squeeze a 46t cassette on that setup
@@mrvwbug4423 I know the 9 speed advent is rated up to a 46t cog. Not sure about older deore. I know the new deore 10 speed can go up to 46t tho
Thank you for yet another quality Daily MTB Rider video!
I have a super simple question. I believe I read somewhere the Microshift Advent drivetrains function best with Microshift cassettes. I already have some Shimano and Sundance 42 tooth cassettes; wouldn’t the Advent X derailleur work fine with them?
This creates some interesting comparisons. The new Shimano Deore 10 speed may be slightly less expensive with an 11-46 cassette, the new Deore 11 speed is about $25 more expensive with a 11-51 cassette. This is for the RD, Shifter, Cassette combo, so same parts as the Advent X. I also wonder if Microshift is looking into a 12 speed that could run on an existing 12 speed cassette such as sunrace or NX Eagle.
deore 11-46 cassette weight 530g, Advent X 420g, BUT shimano cassete pinned.
Can you review the Microshift XCD 11 too? Please i want to that drivetrain from Microshift
Gorgeous routes man. I'm down in SEA and very tempted to get into the MTB side of things... 🤔 Vids like this are tempting lol
Do it!!! Its been 5 months have you done it?
@@repentorperish1386 Sure did! Still bad at it, but I enjoy it a lot.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon oh no way!! Thats awesomwhat bike did you get
@@repentorperish1386 Fuel ex 7
@@JustinDoesTriathlon oh thats cool. Good luck out there and be safe! Is there anything you hate about it?
Looks great! Don't really see why you'd want to get something better, at least for most riders. Even Deore is quite a bit more expensive right? That beeing said, Deore ofers a better upgrade path so I guess that's one point in favour of the bigger brands.
What are your thoughts on kmc chains? Have you used one with a Eagle drivetrain?
I'm running multiple deore m5100s as 7 speeds. I can gen cassette, sprocket and chain for $55 Canadian. I buy 8 speed cassettes and save the 11 tooth's for single speed😂 the entire 9to12 speed shit is a cash grab. You can buy an 8 speed 11 to 42 tooth on amazon for 25 bucks
This is was perfectly timed. Just about to order the whole group set when I saw this haha!
The devil works hard, but youtube creators and the algorithm work harder 😂
@@DailyMTBRider Hahahaha
Awesome! I wonder if i can use that derailleur with a shimano 11speed shifter and M5100 11-51 cassette? hmm
Is no one gunna talk about how tight that chain is at 1:05 or 4:53
Have you tried the Box 4 Groupset? I just purchased it for the same exact price as this AdventX groupset, and just installed it last night, but you have me 2nd guessing myself and wondering if maybe I should return the Box groupset and get this AdventX groupset.
Did you go to Jackson TN of Saturday because I think I saw you. We went to union trails on Saturday
I have the advent x 9 speed and the derailleur has a big big Scratch and it didnt even bend the derailleur hanger, also bcs of dutch weather and daily use (moslty bcs salt on the road) my chaim rusted to a goner bcs i didnt use it or cleaned it after (big sad) so i have a lot of rust spots still on the cassette after cleaning it my best without taking it off.
Josh, a little help with opinion, please.
I currently have an X-7 on a 1x, and the X-7 isn’t compatible with the heating range I need.
I want to swap the SRAM with either the Advent X shifted and RD or the Shimano M4100 shifter/M5120 RD. Without considering the price difference, what are your thoughts on which would be a better performing setup? I plan to use 42 to 48T cassettes (I have more than one set of wheels - one set up for gravel trails, one for hills).
Your opinions as valued and appreciated! Thanks!
Is your chain too short or is that how Microshift needs it to be set up?
nah its good
Definitely too short, there’s not near enough chain for the suspension to work in the largest cog
@@malthechristensen3786 u wont use the suspension much if u are in the largest cog trust me its fine
@@antoanangelov5672 but why not just set it up correctly? In case you do need the suspension?
@@malthechristensen3786 I dont know Im not a fcking engineer 😅
I'd be willing to give her a go, but I've been pretty partial to Shimano drive trains for a long time.
6:08 i think you said sram XT
He said sram XD driver
@@kentquindt7898 oh yeah true
I am skeptic, cus of what I've seen, I have a 11-50T Sunrace I managed to bend cogs, teeth, and has paly, so I advice against that one too. but I already have 11-46T surnace cassettes so might put those on and get 30T chainring , I use 32T oval now.
Low Cost Brakes? Can you recommend any low cost brakes (but good gripping) to pair with this excellent low cost drive train? Building inexpensive mud bike. Thanks.
Four upshifts in one sweep is hard to get used to. I still prefer dealing with 3.
The shifter comparison make sense; but I am looking for a low-cost replacement for Sram XX1 or Shimano XTR drivetrain. Comparing the MicroSHIFT to Sram GX or Shimano XT is great, but can it compare to the top-line Sram and Shimano?
I will love to have one of these.
How's the chain life? I ran a 9-speed drivetrain for a while, but I found myself having to get a new chain every 300 miles compared to my 1500+ miles on a 11 or 12-speed.
Where can you find it in stock?!
Thanks for the video👌 just what i need
Any thoughts on how it will handle the desert chunky jank of my local trails in Grand Junction. I’ve replaced five derailleurs in the last four seasons... admittedly it’s my fault for hitting rocks.
Off topic, but I don't understand how you fit a 30t chainring or an STFU silencer on that bike 🤷♂️ I threw a 30t on mine but the chain rubbed the front edge of the chainstay. I could only fit the front STFU silencer. I wasn't able to get clearance from the rear through all 12 gears so I had to remove it. That might be because of the size difference between your cassette and an X01, I suppose. I kept the front silencer and added rubber tape mounds toward the back. Nice and quiet now, at least 👍
Can you get a throttle/twist type shifter for this? I really hate that thumb shift in artic conditions with fat gloves/mittens.
“Shut The Farts Up” 😂😂😂 👍
I’d like to know more about that system (not joking)
It's called "STFU" or "Shut The F#$% Up" - farts is my G rated version 😂 - quick google search will help you find out what it's about
@@DailyMTBRider I know what it is, I just haven’t seen an in depth review with close ups of the chain line etc. I suppose I could actually try searching to see if someone has already done it though👍
Deore 1x11 derailleur - offering the same gear range - turns out to cost half as much as Advent X derailleur. And the derailleur is what gets damaged most often.