I have the Microshift AdventX 1x10 drivetrain on my new Marin Kentfield 2. I LOVE IT! It has good range in the gearing, going from 22-95 gear-inches. The cassette is a 10 speed, 11-48 tooth affair with a 38 tooth wide-narrow crank up front. I was anti 1x drivetrain before this; as far as I was concerned, the 3x8 was the best drivetrain ever. Now that I've used one, I like it, and I like the Microshift AdventX groupset... :)
You may have sold me on going back to 9 speed. 32x11-42 is what I was running on my Stache before I sold it. I would like smaller, roadie style steps between the gears, but as a singlespeed fan, any additional gears are a luxury. Thanks Chris! -Nick 😃👍
I'm running the Advent 1x9 and I must say it's an amazing drivetrain for the price. You can actually run a 11-46 cassette on the Advent 1x9 and up to a 11-48 on the Advent X (it's a 1x10) with the additional shift on the climbing side of the gearing.
I am NOT a mechanic. But I just installed 9-speed Advent with drop bar shifters on a budget build. It was very easy to set up. That bike has about 100 miles on it and it has never missed a shift. Advent feels a bit clunky, in almost a charming way. If I ride Advent one day and Ultegra the next, it’s a night-and-day difference. But it’s just different. It works. I would have preferred AdventX; but I could not find the drop bar shifters. I notice the gap between gears a bit. But it’s not a big deal.
@@troyjusticecabrera7284 Yes. The derailleur is clutched. I am using the drop bar shifters for Advent. They work well. But no; it is not Shimano compatible.
Very nice review. Thank you. My daughter's Rockhopper Comp came with the Microshift drivetrain, and so far, so good. Like you, though, we want to get away from the 30T chain ring. I noticed that you said that you opted for a 28T chain ring and you are using a Race Face crank. That looks like a non-boost frame. I'm curious as to what crank you went with, and if your 28T chainring is 3mm offset or 6mm offset (I'm thinking 6mm). My other question is about chainrings themselves. Most "upper level" chainrings you can get for direct mount or cinch mount are for 10-12 speed set ups. If you got one of those, did you have any issues running the 9 speed cassette? Thanks. And again, nice review. Really appreciated it.
I am using boost hubs on this bike. I don’t remember what the offset was on this original setup, but I would get what is recommended for non boost if that’s still the case on the Rockhopper. (I think it should be 6mm) The chainring will fit the 9 speed chain just fine as the chain pitch remains the same. Essentially the inner dimension of the chain is close to the same from 8-12 speeds. Wolf Tooth actually recommends using a 10 speed chain on the 1x9 drive train for a tighter fit and easier shifting. In this video I had the Raceface Aeffect R crank which is one on their lighter aluminum options. There are less expensive direct mount cranks out there. Later on I did kind of a unique Advent X setup on this bike and moved the Raceface cranks to my single speed where they are still holding up great.
I wonder if it has the advantages of maintaining efficiency unlike 1x11 for instance. Like there is stretch and friction in the largest cog. I like this, i would like to buy the 48t cassette, but i would like the 11t cog to go away. It would be cool if they can custom make your cassette.
10speed and up many manufacturers recommend chain replacement at 0.5 stretch, whereas 9 speed manufacturers recommend 0.75. Most of my bikes are 9 speed and I have found mixing and matching chains, cassettes, and chainrings (Sram, KMC Shimano) is far more forgiving as well as cheaper compared to the 10 speed and up.
I own one and overall what You say is true, this drivetrains really delivers for the price. Even the clutch is serviceable easily. Spray Clean, lube, go. But the cost is hidden in durability- if You want to drive harder ( I drive XC style in every conditions) than assume You will have to change the cassette every 1600-2000km (1000-1250 miles) mine after 1600 started to jump on harder gears already :(
I had this same issue and had the derailleur and cassette changed to the newer version which apparently wraps the chain around the cassette a little more (contacts with more teeth) than the previous version. Will see how this one holds up.
Hello, i had a problem with my change on same drive train. I have kmc z9 , and i was experiencing change drops and eventually chain snapping on lower cog when clutch is off and i peddle backwards. Did you experience something similar? Thanks
Pretty sure you can take off the clutch mechanism cover, re-tighten the ratcheting mechanism, and put the cover back on. I believe Microshift has a video guide on how to do it too.
@@mjb4671 mabye you have too long chain. Make sur eyou don't have any slack/sagging chain, if so, shorten the chain. But might not be that, I can't inspect the bike so can't know what's wrong.
Raceface Aeffect R in that video. You can run pretty much any crankset as long as it has a narrow wide chainring. You’ll want to watch your chainline as with any other setup.
I put about 1000 miles on the drive train before I put it on another bike I was selling. It worked great the whole time. I now have AdventX on this bike.
That’s a direct mount chain ring for the Raceface Cinch system. It is attached at the center of the chainring so there is no spider and therefore no BCD. Raceface cinch is just one style, most new dedicated 1x cranks (including SRAM and Shimano) have moved to a similar direct mount design.
The 10 speed wasn’t available at the time. Both are really good, the 9 speed is a bit less expensive and I prefer that version of their 9 speed shifter but I wouldn’t hesitate to put the ten speed on if I was swapping drivetrains again.
Unless we keep widening the rear triangle, nine and ten speed will last longer and be more reliable than 11 and 12 speed cassettes... Most recreational riders rarely use more than six gears... If you want more gears get a ×2 on the front...
I have the Microshift AdventX 1x10 drivetrain on my new Marin Kentfield 2. I LOVE IT! It has good range in the gearing, going from 22-95 gear-inches. The cassette is a 10 speed, 11-48 tooth affair with a 38 tooth wide-narrow crank up front. I was anti 1x drivetrain before this; as far as I was concerned, the 3x8 was the best drivetrain ever. Now that I've used one, I like it, and I like the Microshift AdventX groupset... :)
You may have sold me on going back to 9 speed. 32x11-42 is what I was running on my Stache before I sold it. I would like smaller, roadie style steps between the gears, but as a singlespeed fan, any additional gears are a luxury. Thanks Chris!
-Nick 😃👍
I'm running the Advent 1x9 and I must say it's an amazing drivetrain for the price. You can actually run a 11-46 cassette on the Advent 1x9 and up to a 11-48 on the Advent X (it's a 1x10) with the additional shift on the climbing side of the gearing.
Do you use the same 9 speed derailleur for 46T as 42T ?
@@BorKagan777 yessir, Advent Medium Cage w/ Clutch
Did you use the advent 1x9 with a different brand cassette?
@@eternal3093 nope, I’m running a MicroShift cassette
@@UnPolacoLoco ok nvm, just wondering if it’s possible to use the derailleur on a different brand cassette, thanks anyways
I am NOT a mechanic. But I just installed 9-speed Advent with drop bar shifters on a budget build. It was very easy to set up. That bike has about 100 miles on it and it has never missed a shift.
Advent feels a bit clunky, in almost a charming way. If I ride Advent one day and Ultegra the next, it’s a night-and-day difference. But it’s just different. It works.
I would have preferred AdventX; but I could not find the drop bar shifters. I notice the gap between gears a bit. But it’s not a big deal.
Is that a clutch-rear mech you are using? And what drop bar shifters are you using? Will it be cross compatible with Shimano? 🤔
@@troyjusticecabrera7284 Yes. The derailleur is clutched. I am using the drop bar shifters for Advent. They work well. But no; it is not Shimano compatible.
@@peterbaskind9872 So they're Microshift specific brifters? Are they internally cable routed? Or they're like the 10 speed one which is external?
@@troyjusticecabrera7284 The shifter cable comes out the side. Not a big deal, though.
@@peterbaskind9872 So they're like the Microshift Advent X made specifically for gravel bikes then. Thanks.
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Very nice review. Thank you. My daughter's Rockhopper Comp came with the Microshift drivetrain, and so far, so good. Like you, though, we want to get away from the 30T chain ring. I noticed that you said that you opted for a 28T chain ring and you are using a Race Face crank. That looks like a non-boost frame. I'm curious as to what crank you went with, and if your 28T chainring is 3mm offset or 6mm offset (I'm thinking 6mm). My other question is about chainrings themselves. Most "upper level" chainrings you can get for direct mount or cinch mount are for 10-12 speed set ups. If you got one of those, did you have any issues running the 9 speed cassette? Thanks. And again, nice review. Really appreciated it.
I am using boost hubs on this bike. I don’t remember what the offset was on this original setup, but I would get what is recommended for non boost if that’s still the case on the Rockhopper. (I think it should be 6mm)
The chainring will fit the 9 speed chain just fine as the chain pitch remains the same. Essentially the inner dimension of the chain is close to the same from 8-12 speeds. Wolf Tooth actually recommends using a 10 speed chain on the 1x9 drive train for a tighter fit and easier shifting.
In this video I had the Raceface Aeffect R crank which is one on their lighter aluminum options. There are less expensive direct mount cranks out there. Later on I did kind of a unique Advent X setup on this bike and moved the Raceface cranks to my single speed where they are still holding up great.
I wonder if it has the advantages of maintaining efficiency unlike 1x11 for instance. Like there is stretch and friction in the largest cog. I like this, i would like to buy the 48t cassette, but i would like the 11t cog to go away. It would be cool if they can custom make your cassette.
Gran video hermano!
So, the money saved can be spent on otherwise overlooked areas of the bike or related equipment or tools.
Anyone know a good crankset for the advent 9 speed 11 to 46t drivetrain
Great video thanks man🤙🏽🔥
9 speed is more than enough. The only thing I concern is that the market support high-end derailleur for 11, 12 speed.
10speed and up many manufacturers recommend chain replacement at 0.5 stretch, whereas 9 speed manufacturers recommend 0.75. Most of my bikes are 9 speed and I have found mixing and matching chains, cassettes, and chainrings (Sram, KMC Shimano) is far more forgiving as well as cheaper compared to the 10 speed and up.
Yup 9 speed is perfection. We always try to complicate things.
Gears 1--3=Climbing
Gears 4--6=Cruising
Gears 7--9=Sprinting
Perfection....
9 speed makes sense for E bikes since you don't need to get specific cadence since the motor makes up for torque loss
I own one and overall what You say is true, this drivetrains really delivers for the price. Even the clutch is serviceable easily. Spray Clean, lube, go. But the cost is hidden in durability- if You want to drive harder ( I drive XC style in every conditions) than assume You will have to change the cassette every 1600-2000km (1000-1250 miles) mine after 1600 started to jump on harder gears already :(
I had this same issue and had the derailleur and cassette changed to the newer version which apparently wraps the chain around the cassette a little more (contacts with more teeth) than the previous version. Will see how this one holds up.
why not get a different brand cassette?
Your video was very helpful thanks bro!
Personally I want a 1x5 10x50t on my 11 speed I only use like 3 gears.
hi does the shifter have to match the same brand as the Derailleur ?
How is the cassette holding up so far? Thanks
microshift is very good in maintaining quality
Interesting way you installed the handlebar.
Never thought of it before but I guess there is Problem installing it in any direction, right?
I’m not sure what you are referring to. Sorry if I’m not understanding. The handle bar is installed normally though.
can be 36 teeth chainring can carry the 9 speed chain and cogs?
Cant it be used in a 3x9 set up? Thanks for Whoever answers.
Yes, you will need the long cage derailleur
The clutch will need to be off always
Hello, i had a problem with my change on same drive train. I have kmc z9 , and i was experiencing change drops and eventually chain snapping on lower cog when clutch is off and i peddle backwards. Did you experience something similar? Thanks
Do you get a lot of chain slap with this derailier bc I have the sam one and I get tons of chain slap. If so any tips on reducing it thanks.
Pretty sure you can take off the clutch mechanism cover, re-tighten the ratcheting mechanism, and put the cover back on. I believe Microshift has a video guide on how to do it too.
I do not get hardly any chain slap with mine. If your derailleur clutch feels loose there is a way to adjust the clutch tension.
My clutch is really firm and I still get a bunch of chain slap😭
@@mjb4671 can always take a couple chainlinks out...you now have spare links incase .
@@mjb4671 mabye you have too long chain. Make sur eyou don't have any slack/sagging chain, if so, shorten the chain. But might not be that, I can't inspect the bike so can't know what's wrong.
Hello, what crankset are you running w/ 9spd?
Raceface Aeffect R in that video. You can run pretty much any crankset as long as it has a narrow wide chainring. You’ll want to watch your chainline as with any other setup.
Is 1x9 powerful enough to climb steep hills? I'm living in a steep area. Thinking about upgrading to a 1x bike.
Yes. Get at least a 32t or smaller chainring with the 11-46. If you get the 11-42 get a 30t or smaller.
Long term update?
I put about 1000 miles on the drive train before I put it on another bike I was selling. It worked great the whole time. I now have AdventX on this bike.
I don't care for the way the cable goes off at such a large angle after emerging from the housing at the derailleur.
totally agree 👍
advent or nx 11 speed?
Is it possible for this cassette to work with shimano deore 10/11 speeds.
It’s an 11-42 tooth 9 speed cassette so probably not
microSHIFT they go their own system, you can’t use it to compatible with SHIMANO.
It looks like it can, try looking for the Microshift 10 speed 11-48T if you have the M5100 rear derailleur
A 28T chainring?!? What BCD, and where did you find that for a 1x?
That’s a direct mount chain ring for the Raceface Cinch system. It is attached at the center of the chainring so there is no spider and therefore no BCD. Raceface cinch is just one style, most new dedicated 1x cranks (including SRAM and Shimano) have moved to a similar direct mount design.
Can I use 38t instead of 32t?
Instead of the Microshift 1x9, did you consider the Microshift X 1x10?
The 10 speed wasn’t available at the time. Both are really good, the 9 speed is a bit less expensive and I prefer that version of their 9 speed shifter but I wouldn’t hesitate to put the ten speed on if I was swapping drivetrains again.
Where I can buy that one, on my local store is not available.
i mean as soon as you get your needed gear combination, then it's all good.
Thinking of purchasing Specialized Sirrus 1x8 Microsoft advent , any thoughts on this good or bad . It's my first venture away from Shimano
Ive never worked with their 8 speed version but I should have my hands on a groupset soon. Ill give an update soon, it looks promising.
Unless we keep widening the rear triangle, nine and ten speed will last longer and be more reliable than 11 and 12 speed cassettes...
Most recreational riders rarely use more than six gears...
If you want more gears get a ×2 on the front...