This really isn’t that bad, they can just celebrate Xmas now🤔😏😂jk but oh god, the fargin’ jokes just write themselves nowadays, I pity ‘The Onion’ nowadays😂 Future conversation between 2 friends… 1st guy…..”I have to admit I have an X rated mind” Second guy…..”Oh, does that mean you like free internet porn or are a certified Elon Musk fan?” 🤔😏😂
Hi, evangelical Christian and committed follower of Jesus here, and I’ve been saying for _years_ now that “Christian” conservative endorsement of Trumpism and MAGA is nothing short of blasphemy- and we shall have to answer for it. I am heartbroken for what has become of MY faith community. One could read the gospels, substituting “evangelical” for “Pharisee”, and it would be just as accurately relevant. 13:34 - the teachings of Jesus ARE subversive. They are intended to be!
@@andybray9791being Jewish doesn’t equal being a zionist….trust me Jesus would not approve of Israel today. And the people of Israel in the Bible lost their land because they lacked faith in God
It depends on what kind of person you are. You can adjust Jesus to your worldview. If you are a conservative your jezus loves guns and hates the poor. And has white skin blonde hair and blue eyes
But this is why I say - NONE of them are Christians. I must have written this now about 30x on TH-cam, but this is my take. All these people who claim to be chrsitians are NOT christians. Here’s my analog - Of you call yourself a vegan, but still snack on a chicken very so often…you’re not a vegan. Same goes for chrstians. If they call themselves that, yet they don’t practice christian teachings, then they’re just not christians. If I call myself a body builder, but I don’t go to the gym - I’m not a body builder. These assholes who label themselves as Christians, do everything opposite to what a chrsitian follower should be doing. Thus they cannot be labelled as a christian. It’s that simple.
As a Mexican Catholic I always find it absolutely insane how crazy American missionaries are. Literally yesterday I was jokingly telling a friend that the evangelicals are about to decanonise Jesus because he's a good dude
Hermano conservatives Christians don’t make sense . To then is convert,follow the part of the Bible they want to follow, get rich and continue the same idiocy
Lately, I've read a number of people describing themselves as "Trump Christians". What the heck? The only thing I can figure out is that they are taking Jesus out of the Gospels, and replacing him with Trump. Obviously, there can really be no such thing as a "Trump Christian".
It's a term taken from black people to mean non complacent or understanding the hurtles we are against and where we come from . I really dunno what this definition of woke is 😅
@@leyrua yes in any other subject they ARE the dumbest people on the planet. but when it comes to their bigotry and hate, they are true scholars, and know exactly what they’re doing. It’s what drives them.
Calling Jesus a "Woke Liberal" seems tame... during my Freshman year of Catholic High School (secondary school), I was branded a Communist for quoting the Bible (Acts of the Apostles).
And this... The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
Back when I was more confident in my faith (enough to subscribe to a particular sect and type of theism) I drew my socialism from the Book of Acts, my grandad who was an old school Labour trade unionist also came from the Social Gospel trend. Socialism in the UK was heavily Christian in the early days
@@ApostleofTzeentch The difference between Peter’s socialism and political socialism is its separation between church and state. People could still be Christian and not be part of that commune, while others who are part of commune can mingle among the general economy as well. One isn’t forced to be in the commune and can join, leave, rejoin, at will. It was an option not a politics. Peter sent all the brethren out and away from Jerusalem and it is never mentioned what happened to that commune.
The religious right aren't even a religion anymore. They're too stupid to study scripture, or possibly even to read. They'll follow anyone who is loud and passionate. These are the kind of people who would worship at the church of the great potato-faced tuna squirrel if the pastor used the right tone of voice. The US is getting scarier every day. I moved to Peru and as volatile as the politics are here, I actually feel safer. At least I'm not trapped in a coast to coast insane asylum.
@termination9353 you are coping extremely hard. If the bible depicts Jesus accurately to the barest extent, he is undeniably what we would today call a socialist.
@@Baconcatboy The bible says we're all sinners, Jesus was the only one to forgive. The bible also says we all have Original Sin because of something the bible says we did...
As an history student I can tell you "the huge revelation" that every now an then people call political leaders "the antichrist". Almost as many times as they predicted the end if t'he world. Its just part of that cult-like mindset
Christians wearing his mark on their foreheads (MAGA hats) and everything. I'm also an atheist these days, but all the parallels really creep me out deep down. Probably because I was raised evangelical.
@@theheresiarch3740 i thought it was wako too. But look at how they handle the “end of the world.” For people who claim to love the world, they seem pretty invested in the world ending. With how fanatic they are with (seeming to) wanting it to happen.
As an American Muslim, it’s absolutely wild that conservatives are rejecting Christianity and threatening to “embrace” Islam because Jesus preached basic human decency.
Many progressives called it. Radical Christians will turn to radical Islam because they’re overlapping with Taliban beliefs. Reducing women’s rights, rejection of institutions, embracing violence
@@Hippidippimahm I'm not even Muslim but isn't a core pillar of the religion that you should give to the needy on a regular basis? Yeah that's gonna be a hoot
@StoryMing no, they did. They are liars. But theybare also cowards, so they won't admit to a thing they know is bad, unless they think they have numbers behind them ready to also admit they are bad.
They love Paul more than Jesus because he was less soft and said what they wanted to hear to support their biases regarding slavery, women's rights and homosexuality, whereas Jesus essentially advocated for communism (Luke 14:33) and also not evangelizing and pushing their beliefs on others, especially praying (Matt. 6:6). Not only that but they reshaped Jesus into their own image: a white skinned man who hated everyone who they hated and adored everything they said they did in the name of the Lord. In reality they didn't care about Jesus' actual teachings but used him as a tool, object, to validate what was right in their own eyes. (Judges 21:25)
The only thing they've ever given a shit about is that he died for their sins. They quote the Pauline Epistles and the OT more than they quote the man they supposedly believe was literally god incarnate
USA Conservatives would've put Jesus on the Cross and lobbied for laws to be passed against following his teaching in leu of whatever dogma was prominent at the time.
As a Venezuelan Catholic who migrated to the USA I always found American Christianity very strange and backwards, they treat their faith less as means to spread goodwill and sincerity towards others and more as a brand to make money.
And a rhetorical "anything-goes" to obfuscating any discussion. They just rewrite whatever they want because they've never even read the bible anyways and they use it to shut down discussion by making it seem like you're somehow stomping on their religious views.
As a child, I grew up thinking Jesus was my best friend and I wanted to do what he taught but as I grew older, the church and his teachings were so wildly different that I quit the church. I never stopped thinking Jesus was right about a lot of things though.
@@ninjaked1265... Yeah, please finance an extreamly abusiv organidation that insults and weaponised a religion ment for kindness and goes against everything the prophet taught
Thats the reason I never believed and hated getting forces to church, the cognitive dissonance.... Still i have a lot of respect for jesus and everyone who actually follows his teachings
* One of the first battles Gandhi fought after coming to South Africa was over the separate entrances for whites and blacks at the Durban post office. Gandhi objected that Indians were “classed with the natives of South Africa,” who he called the kaffirs, and demanded a separate entrance for Indians. “We felt the indignity too much and … petitioned the authorities to do away with the invidious distinction, and they have now provided three separate entrances for natives, Asiatics and Europeans.” here is another fun gandhi fact
@@averagedemocrat9546Gandhi and his colleagues served and helped Africans as nurses and by opposing racism. The Nobel Peace Prize winner Nelson Mandela is among admirers of Gandhi's efforts to fight against racism in Africa. Scholars have also pointed the evidence to a rich history of co-operation and efforts by Gandhi and Indian people with nonwhite South Africans against persecution of Africans and the Apartheid. Gandhi also led a volunteer mixed unit of Indian and African stretcher-bearers to treat wounded combatants during the suppression of the Bambatha Rebellion. The Kaffir statement was made in a 1896 speech were he said that White Europeans Agressors in S.Africa were now classifying Indians along with the Black Africans in their racist attacks. He never meant to use the word in a demeaning sense. To him the word was just a term like the word Indian is. He used this term in The Times of India, 1896 to oppose the relentless bullying Black kids would face from European kids.
@@averagedemocrat9546 do you know what "invidious distinction" is, the quote you just brought up was him petitioning the authorities to do away with it.
Similar. I saw the insult-eyesore-clock-tower the Saudis raised over the holy site of Mecca, and said immediately to myself, "Jihad." The power-hungry will embrace any religion to serve their purpose, then trample that same religion underfoot when it impedes them. See Hitler and Christianity.
Uh... To go one step further, Jesus didn't marry. He wasn't married to a sex worker. He loved her but I don't recall any part of the biblical text about him being married. Actually he had many unmarried female friends who he was very close to, which would have been something to see in those days, and that's not to mention all his other friends who were tax collectors, fishermen, and all different types of misfits. He had no issue hanging with gentiles, sex workers, lepers, homeless and sick people, etc. I think I was in my last year of high school when I realized that most American conservatives who call themselves Christians must not actually be familiar with their own holy text because their capitalist republican world view is pretty much the antithesis of everything Jesus did and stood for. Then ever since 2016 I've been waiting for them to start calling Jesus out as woke and beginning to hate and deny him, while still calling themselves Christians of course. I've seen so many secular people talk about supporting Christ but not Christians. Of course it was only a matter of time before the Christians would stop supporting Christ. They're right about him being a leftist though 😂
@@RR_theproaholeClear cognitive dissonance. Incredible how people live by lying to themselves constantly just to not feel bad about the person they are. Not discriminate? No that's too hard and I'm scared of everything thats different so my response to all this is angrily saying no 5 times.
I like how conservatives have a choice, get rid of the hypocrisy or get rid of the religion that proves they're hypocrites. They got rid of the religion. 🤔
While still happily proclaiming themselves Christian to anyone in earshot whenever possible. They love their little hate circle-jerk social group, they can't be bothered to actually pay attention to the religion they claim to be a part of.
@@Echo81Rumple83 Maybe they will resort to inventing a religion to suit their worldview or do some digging, find another system of beliefs and bastardize the living shit out of it.
He was a brown skinned Middle Eastern man with passionate moral beliefs, who was outspoken against state power and religious authorities. They would throw him in Gitmo, if not crucify him again.
Love the implication that a fundamentally religious jewish man who lived over 2000 years ago is too woke because...*checks notes* he said to help poor people.
@@mweskampppexactly. All this right-wing trash isn't actually Christian. Especially the capitalism! They use the name "Christian" because it's part of Western culture. Leftists should understand that Christianity isn't the problem and many leftist ideals are actually closer to the Bible than right-wing ideals are
Speaking of Ministry of Truth...There never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
@@termination9353do you just look for any connection to post this same comment? 😂 also where is your source for this? Also what difference would it make?
Hitler himself privately said that he kind of wished Germany hadn't be left with such a "weak" religion like Christianity, and he saw Islam's teachings as superior to the kind of society he wanted to enforce. Islam doesn't teach "turning the other cheek" but instead, retaliation to extreme lengths. However, he played the Christian role because he knew he had to with his people. I wonder how long it will be before we see more far-right people converting to Islam, I suspect we might see at least a small but noticeable trend in young far-right males doing this, after Andrew Tate decided to become one.
"White American conservative Christians finally opened their bibles." - Yeah, on the wrong pages, those they were never allowed to read before. There's a reason that this book was only in Latin (and Greek before that) for centuries so that ordinary people couldn't read it and were forced to believe their priests about what was written inside, and how it had to be interpreted (it was Martin Luther who translated it into the language of the people around him, a language that evolved into German, and the Catholic church hated him for that). Now everyone can read and see what's actually in it …
@@rhiwright Never heard of William Tyndale and his bible translation (here in Germany ;-)). And his was not even the first English translation, as I've just read. But when it comes to influence, he just can't compete with Martin Luther (at least for continental Europe). But as far as I can make out, they actually did it at roughly the same time (Luther was not the only one who worked on the project of "his" bible, and there were earlier translations into German as I've just learned), and both created new words and phrases for their respective language that are still in use today. I'll keep this in mind.
I'm a socialist and a Christian (Episcopalian) in America and let me tell you, it is extremely hard to feel confident in my faith when the entire narrative in this country is constructed by right-wing evangelicals. Whenever I feel doubt due to these crowds, I just remember that Jesus' entire message was firmly against stances of hate and bigotry.
I was also raised catholic, and I remember when I heard about communism for the first time and I thought "wow, these ideas sound a lot like the christian values Jesus taught" 🤣
Which is even crazier considering that Catholic Church was deeply involved in fight against USSR. Now one could argue that Soviet communism was not real communism but it's still funny
I remeber the Bible literally saying that early Christians basically lived in communist communes. They sold their possessions and shared the profits among all the community to each according to their needs.
This is another thing that bugs me. Catholics are actually the original Christians. They believe in Christ. They follow the teachings. If anyone says they’re not christians I’m sorry, they’re just really stupid people.
There never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
A figure that was meant to show love and compassion to everyone. Especially those who are marginalized and fucked by the system. Conservatives hate him? This is groundbreaking.
It's not just that. It's that Conservatives *who self-identify as Christian* hate him. They very people who use their religion to try to justify their bigotry.
@fisheryboi835 Sure. He would also be hated by left too to be honest. Saw what happened when Mr beast just gave out free surgeries? Imagine if Jesus was here. He would be cancelled for helping people.
@@gandalainsley6467 well, if he was making whole circus out of it, screaming "look how poor those people are and how generous I am! remember to like, subscribe and buy whatever I'm sponsored by today!", then yeah but jesus was also kinda about humility
@@blairfujin The circus kinda followed him wherever he went though, and I have a feeling that a lot of people of the time thought he was intentionally making a circus of it.
So basically theyre being more open and honest about their bigotry Which is scary cause once they drop the pretense they will eventually start dropping people off cliffs
I think I could find a centrist reading in Christ's teachings. At least when it comes to the Jesus described in NT. I suspect that the OG Christ was more radical So according to NT Jesus didn't really come down to Earth to start a political revolution. His job was to spread the good message and be sacrificed. As a Christian you should definitely follow his teachings but you shouldn't strive to overthrow the abusive colonialism of Roman Empire. He even sent back a run away slave back to his master hoping he would be kind for the newly converted Christian I think this passivity could be written in the Biblie by NT authors whose names we don't even know. We know they weren't his disciples. They spoke Greek, they were educated - definitely not bunch of poor Jewish people. I suspect his radical message could've been neutered to fit better for the new audience. For ancient Roman pagans who didn't saw anything bad in their empire
Real jesus walked around with automatic rifles and beat people who fed to homeless to an inch of their lives for not obeying law and order by getting a proper permit. He went to the moneylenders and screamed against capital gains taxes and railed against the poor, reminding them they signed a contract and only communists hate usury.
This kinda reminds me of the height of the “happy holidays” bullshit where some morning news channel brought a priest on expecting him to complain about people not saying “merry Christmas.” The priest basically said he didn’t care and that he would rather people stop commodifying a holy day in his faith. Conservatives have been at odds with their Christian faith for a long time.
I love how conservatives (used to) love a radical figure like Jesus, who was generally anti-capitalist/materialist, anti-hate, and got crucified because he spoke out against the heavily traditionalist society. Jesus was an OG SJW lol
Without religious context, yes. Jesus was a prominent religious revolutionary. Can't believe it took over 2,000 years for the "Conservative" folk to realize that.
The part about Jesus "embracing sex workers" is not true, though. Mary Magdalene has never been proven to be a sex worker, despite the popular mythology. People have merely conflated her with a similar woman in the Gospels, and perhaps also with the adulteress Jesus saved from being stoned.
If Jesus were here today preaching the things he did in the Bible, conservatives would call him a woke socialist Jew and tell him to go back to his own country
They would just kill him all over again. As a Christian, I can’t help but draw the parallels between how the people in Israel in the time in history when Jesus came were expecting a warrior to lead the revolution and they literally rejected him and some even killed him because his messages of love, compassion and forgiveness were so radical to how they were living. I see so many American “Christians” who would be fully expecting Jesus to show up with Tommy guns in hand leading a bloody revolution against “the woke” and the “liberals destroying the country.”
@@Theomite Capitalism is not a codified philosophy. It was a term used by Karl Marx and other leftists of the 19th century to describe the economy of their time. So, in a way, Karl Marx invented Capitalism when he was criticising it. The Wealth of Nations is not really about what one might call capitalism, but rather markets, which is a capitalist myth (ie that markets regulate themselves and this is good or something).
Jesus was announced as king of Israel in that choice between Jesus and Barabbas. Quickly said, Pilot dressed Jesus up as King, Pilot presented Jesus to the Sanhedrin and high priest among the crowd as "their King". Told the crowd to choose to crucify "their King" or Barabbas. The Saducees and High Priest chose "their king" Jesus to be crucified and instigated the Jewish crowd to choose "their King" to be crucified..... and so the Priesthood anointed Jesus as their king in order for him to be executed. And Pilat published this fact above Jesus head at a time when Jerusalem was most crowded of Jews from all over the realm. What this accomplished was to legalize according to Torah law Jesus' amended covenant and make irrelevant all burdensome Talmudic rules. I think Jesus and Pilat planned it together. Neet trick on the Sanhedrin huh.
People were already calling 'modern' (as in 18th/19th century) economies 'capitalist' and proponents of the changes, especially the factory owners, 'capitalists' way before marx and not as a critique
I’m not actually surprised by this. A lot of the higher ups in the Nazi party also condemned Jesus as being too loving and compassionate. Hitler called Christianity “flabby” and was much more impressed by Islam, which is prophetic given how many far right guys are now converting to Islam.
A lot of the Nazis were neo-pagans, hence their love of runes, which still appears in the iconography of modern day nazis. Neitzche was an influence upon Nazi ideology (although arguably Nietzche himself was anti-authoritarian). Now having dabbled in neo-paganism myself I have had to ask myself, by way of self-reflection, what is it about neo-paganism that would appeal to a fascist? Maybe that link is a but of a red flag that should be noted. So, here's the thing: we don't really have any accurate or verifiable idea what pre-christians believed, and moreover all generalisations will be wrong because they no doubt held a diversity of views, so what neo-paganism does is grant the user a means to declare the authority of a supposed ancient tradition whilst giving them the freedom to rewrite codes of morality as they see fit, so a neo-pagan could, feasibly, declare the notion that mercy and forgiveness and a policy of non-violence are virtuous are symptoms of a christian slave morality foisted upon us by an invading religion and that would be a convenient mythology for a fascist to explain to themselves why these things that seem virtuous are weaknesses to be discarded. It's potentially a mythological rationale for extreme moral relativism - an extreme moral relativism that might permit atrocities. That is a reason to treat neopaganism with a bit of caution; to be aware of that potential abuse.
Wait till they find out that Jesus (Isa) is also a very important prophet in Islam and Islam has a lot of left wing economic ideas encouraged like paying taxes and donating to the poor. Islam is so against the idea of being wasteful that if you do not use something you buy, like an article of clothing for a certain amount of time you are required to pay a tax on it. The only real conservative facets Islam preaches is more on the social side, such as gendered roles and rules that differ based on your sex, such as the hijab requirements for men and women.
@@nothanks9503that's not fair! Let's do what those satanic dudes are doing and demand go put the ten satanic commands that are even more woke than jesus
@@nothanks9503 sadly church schools have been indoctrinated by external culture invading, undermining separation of church and state. Work with culture not slip into it
But he wasn't woke. He didn't support gender ideology, no lgbtq+, and no other virtue signaling nonsense. Hell even communist like che Guevara and Nelson Mandela weren't for that. So lest you forget Wokism is a degenerate culture that came out spoiled rich brats from USA.
I disagree. The OT has socialist leanings. Seriously, building codes, health codes, greedy idiots getting fried for being greedy idiots, anti wage theft, providing for the less fortunate, etc. These come up over and over. Jesus was a communist. From each according to their ability, to each according to their need. Free health care and food.
theres still a little conservatism in christianity's purist form but thats also because the village of Nazareth was pretty conservative at the time and its impossible to tell how much of his teachings were changed from their original teachings because you know, everyones dead. a lot of the socialism and communism in his teachings come from the anti roman anti imperalism.
This depends on whether you take the words as they claim to use them or as they do use them. For example, if you see someone forcibly take food from a child, some people will say this is very un-Christian, others will point to all the Christians doing it and say the sandal fits.
Gay Canadian here, I dislike that we are neighbours with the US cause all the negative stuff and views like this sneaks over the border. My last visit to the states was my last. I never interacted with so many hate based and sensitive ego people in my life. Didn't used to be like that, used to love American neighbours.
You must be a religious person. Atheist and science based and fact based here so we can not really have a debate.. Hope you have a great day.@@Ejacunathan
@@matty_ottawa8173that's not a very "fact based" thing to day. People who are relgious can be scientific and factual, to say otherwise is simply arrogant.
Try being a former conservative in some states and point out that the current evangelical leaders are worse than Jim Jones ever was. You will get censured from the cult leaders.
I don’t want to act that there isn’t a lot of terrible oppressive stuff in the Hebrew Bible, but I want to caution people who are culturally Christian from acting like Christian interpretations of the Old Testament are the same as Jewish interpretations. A common one is ‘Old Testament god is vengeful Jesus is forgiving’. This is actually directly from early anti Jewish propaganda in christian rome. There are many conflicting portrayals of god in the Hebrew Bible, and basically everything Jesus does and says in the NT is a paraphrase of something written in an older scripture. trying to resolve these contradictions is largely why most jews came to understand god as nondualistic and impersonal. god, like nature, is both kind and cruel, and is so far beyond our understanding that sitting with the contradictions is one of the fundamental parts of Jewish faith. Imo Christian’s, particularly modern ones, are more interested in explaining away contradictions than they are accepting them. I mean Catholics invented original sin and then had to invent the immaculate conception because of the problem this created. Again, not that Judaism has not been oppressive, but if we only understand jews and Judaism through the Christian lens we are getting a very distorted picture
Great point. At their cores I’ve noticed that Jews culturally and religious “struggle” with the concept of god. They’re always analyzing and debating their scriptures to better understand it. It’s why many ethnic Jews can be atheist but still practice Judaism as a whole Meanwhile Christianity, particularly American Protestant Charismatic Christianity branches, demands complete obedience to God and authority. You don’t question it or anything and must believe the exact right thing and act accordingly
I've read Friedrich Engels' article "On the History of Early Christianity" (which is only 28 pages long and I highly recommend to read it), and I can surely say that early Christians' communes were mostly anarchist in nature: 1. They were growing their own food, making their own tools etc. 2. Had no monetary relationships between themselves. 3. Had no distinct leader who would hold all the power to choose what the group will do. 4. All work was done voluntary, for the sake of survival and devotion to God and Jesus Christ.
At this point, woke is just an umbrella term for anything the right doesn’t like. Essentially, woke=bad, therefore, bad=woke. Initially, it just meant being aware of discrimination and racial prejudice, but now the LGBTQ is woke, defunding the police is woke, socialism? is woke, etc. It’s basically synonymous with the left.
Well "woke" is related to He woke up (to the problems around him) My metaphorical take is-- The benighted woke up. Once awakened, they became enlightened.
I'm reminded of an episode of _Star Trek: TNG_ in which a Ferengi Daimon offers to return a derelict starship to the Federation, and his officers ask him, in astonishment, "AT NO COST?!"
The church I attended as a kid always had a photo of that Ghandi quote hanging in the kids classrooms - "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." We were told this quote stayed hung up to continuously remind us to be more Christ-like in nature, to show the love of Jesus to others around us through our actions and not to wear Christianity as an armour against criticism of our behavior. That quote is now maligned by hoards of Christians who were completely unable to face the reality of their own hypocrisy. It was because of that reminder that I left the church behind as an adult. Maybe God exists. But if I have to believe and act like Conservative Christians do in order to make it into heaven, I'd rather be literally anywhere else.
Every person of faith ends up creating a God in their own image. Those who like punishment create an angry, vengeful God. Those who want the freedom to do whatever they want create a liberal or indifferent God. Those who want a lot of stuff create a SantaClaus-type God who just sprinkles gifts upon them. I'm not convinced anyone has ever gotten it 100% "right"
My concept of God is that they just started the simulation and observe how it all plays out. To us, it's been millions of years of evolution but to a cosmic entity that we can not even begin to comprehend......🫣🤷🏻♀️
I'm not shocked. Although there may be some problematic elements in the Bible (if one follows it from a fundamental perspective); Jesus has been portrayed as kind, and arguably left leaning in the Bible. This is the message that Liberation Theologians like MLK Jr and Desmond Tutu have been trying to explain about Jesus, and how they have used that message to help liberate those who are oppressed.
They also reject Martin Luther's teachings. He hated when political leaders took bribes/lobbyists. Now they refuse to live without such concessions. He also said belief alone was the key to salvation, and yet they're still the biggest moral busybodies with the least interest in the general public's good.
Looks like Jesus Christ has finally given them a reality check. Even though I am a communist, I like this "Second Coming of the Christ" thing that has now brought chaos onto the "Conservatives" in America.
Not entirely honest with themselves, they still consider themselves patriots somehow despite loving their enemies and making things worse for their fellow citizens
American Christian: Jesus your woke! Jesus: yes i am awakened forever more! American Christian: arggghh. Wait thats not what i mean do you care about black people. Jesus: I am black, so yes American Christian: no your white. Jesus: Revelation 1:14-15. I have bronze skin and my hair is like Pure Wool. American Christians: i am pagan now.
@@JosephFlores-yn4yiOf course he wasn't African American. America didn't exist during the time of the Roman empire. He was most likely Middle Eastern, rather than African, though.
@@Division101 because the idea of jesus as white and therefore white people being closer to god has historically been used to justify violence and subjugation of people of color
No he wasnt. Read the gospels and not just the memes. Jesus was a liberal. He preached being meek and turning the other cheek in the face of roman occupation and oppression of Judea. He hung around with roman tax collectors and taught that we shouldnt resist evil people.
I’m an atheist now, but when I was 13 going through confirmation in my church, I was beginning to notice how incongruous the words I was reading in the bible were with how most people in that church conducted themselves. The pastors themselves were fine (similar to the pastor mentioned in this video), but there was a pretty sizable number of people who would talk smack behind other congregants’ backs just out in the open because they weren’t around to hear it. There was almost this sense of moral superiority and feelings of invincibility around these people, because they believed they could just act terrible to others and be justified because they were active in the church so it canceled out. And if they did do something wrong, they could just pray about it and move on. I never once saw any of these people try to better themselves of their own volition in the 8 years I was there.
You do know that you fell in other group that acts like that right? Woke crowd acts the same. (I am here because I like seeing how people think on all sides. )
@@gandalainsley6467May you please substantiate what you mean when you say the other group acts like “that”? I don’t think anyone will get your point unless you articulate it more clearly. Group-think at least still implies thought- this comment borders on jest
@@tyjhepengel5342 I think you solved the mystery of "you don't make sense" thing that I see a lot of people from the left say when someone brings up something they disagree with. Its not that they disagree with it, they are just too dumb to understand the concept. Thank you I guess? I might have had too high expectations because I don't have to oversimplify stuff this much anywhere else.
You outed yourself when you said "woke crowd". Why are you acting like you're a centrist and why go after the OP making assumptions about his character and those he hangs around with just because he said the people in his church didn't live by the bible's teachings?
To me it just shows that people never followed religion for the truth of it, but for their own gain. Those who sticked to the scriptures were always exceptions.
Jesus was poor, olive skinned and didn’t speak English. He can translate better than Google. In heaven who knows what happens bet we’ll understand each other properly speaking one language (whatever it will be)
@@lawlaw295how is that blasphemy….”oh if you say Jesus isn’t white that’s blasphemy” first of all he was born in the middle east, second if you didn’t word that right that sounds like blatant “white is superior” talk
it's incredible how I, an atheist, have more respect for Jesus as a philosophical figure that this supposed Christians that should think he's the son of God
Jesus the man existed in the Roman Census and I’m in the camp he was a real person just due to some records we have, but also he wasn’t the only doomsday preacher at the time. He also considered himself a Jewish teacher and a sect of Judaism, one of many. After he died he just had a small subset of followers, alongside a bunch of other sects. It’s really fascinating how Paul was the true birth of Christianity, taking a small sect and making missionaries, denouncing the current faiths etc. Sometimes I wonder what the world would have been like if not for Paul. Great vid!
In Medieval England you literally couldn't read it, in that you weren't allowed, couldn't have access to one and they were all in Latin. Most people couldn't even read English let alone Latin. John Wycliffe translated them into English which was seen as radical heresy, and this inspired the Hussites in Bohemia later. Religion has always been about cherry picking the text to suit an agenda. Same thing today, sure people *can* read the bible but no one does
According to polling of atheists, the number one reason they become atheists is that they read the Bible and found out what it actually says. The number two reason, which was my reason, is the hypocrisy and immorality of religious believers. The number three reason, incidentally, is learning more about science.
I've said for years that every person should read it through at least once. Those who disagree with it will then be able to quote it and explain why they disagree with it, and those who claim to believe it will be able to quote it and explain why they believe it/agree with it. Also, it's always better to read sthg for one's self, instead of taking anyone else's word on what it says: the Bible, a contract, an indictment, etc
From what I perceive, conservative Christians tend to believe in Jesus more as a spiritual being than his corporeal, human form. Concentrating on giving their lives over to Jesus so they can go to Heaven, they tend to appeal to the Old testament, and Pauline dogmas, than Jesus's humanity. Jesus is important because He is the way, the door His father's kingdom, through which you *must* go to enter the Kingdom of Heaven I think this combined with the culture of American individualism overrides the sense of communal love that Jesus preached. When you throw nationalism and the myth of America being God's chosen country into the mix it becomes a really toxic potion.
It amazes me how the values I got from my christian upbringing are: love your neighbour, don't judge people, help others if you can, share what you have if others need it, don't be prejudiced against people who are different, take responsibility for your actions... And some of my peers who went to the same church and school as me are like "if you find them threteing, kill them lmao", "I don't care if you suffer, I suffer too and I'm suffering in the name of god". But even they laught at American christians.
I am a *former* Christian who still believes Jesus Christ is God. The "christian" Right is the primary reason I gave up on organized religion. They would have crucified Jesus (the "christian" Right doesn't like Jews). They perpetually disobey Jesus's command to keep religion and politics *SEPARATE* . The "christian" Right has created a whole LOT of Atheists.
@@waldothewalrus294 I do not know if/where that is stated in the Bible but conservatives are at war with the founding US principle of separating church and state.
@@TryssemTavern That would actually state that a ruler's authority is of divine origin. Such a ruler must thus be obeyed for religious reasons. It's the exact opposite.
Anyone who has ever met an Evangelical won't find their ignorance about the Sermon on The Mount surprising. What's shocking is that they're willing to admit to their disdain for Jesus.
I'm honestly expecting some grifter to eventually release a "non woke edition" of the Bible. I'm not even religious but always found the idea of Jesus being compatible with many of today's and history's "Christian" views/values as laughable. Well at least many so called "Christians" are finally removing the mask and showing the world who they really are.
evangelicals take it even further with "salvation through faith alone." they can be utter dogshit "people," but they're "born again in christ," so none of the atrocious things they do matter. as much as i dislike Catholicism, at least they say "faith without works is dead."
Well that's literally the standard for acceptance in Lutherian protestantism; belief alone, not praxis; basically atheism lol. Just so happened that he also hated priests taking bribes to forgive sins; indulgeances. There is no consistent ideology for conservatism. just a set of overpowered knee jerk reactions.
It's interesting that the pastor's response to how to solve this is "we need to have more control over the community and the individual's day to day lives" rather than recognizing that they, themselves, have been preaching authoritarianism this whole time, and their flocks are just following that lesson to leviticus.
It's not a new phenomenon. For example the line "it's easier for a rich man to fit through the eye of a needle than pass through the gates of heaven" has always been contested in the most cynical ways. Some saying the "eye of the needle" was actually a real city gate in Jerusalem that was very busy and difficult to enter no matter ones wealth.
@@jochenkraus7016 My Catholic school teachers took the opposite position, telling us that "kill" should be extrapolated to other forms of harm, e.g. hitting, kicking, biting, scratching, etc. They were big on controlling the students via guilt.
I thought the quote was "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Dude, this is crazy, I actually knew Lucas Miles! Lucas went to the same church as my family when I was growing up, he was just under a decade older than me and was good friends with my older sister. He eventually became a youth pastor at that church and he was actually a pretty positive role model for me during my very difficult teenage years and an all-around decent and fun guy. Lucas very much used to be all about the loving and compassionate parts of the Gospel and emphasized the importance of this to the church youth group. Eventually he went and joined this church franchise called Oasis which was very much about community outreach. He wasn't in my life much after this point, but my sister went to his church and maintained a close friendship with him. As the years went on, however, he started becoming involved with prominent figures in the evangelical community and ultimately joined a Christian entertainment production company. From what I understand, it was around this time where he started to become a lot more fundamentalist. Then the rise of Trump and MAGA came and he started embracing extremist beliefs, even going as far as to write a book based around the premise that someone cannot be both a Christian and a liberal. This was around the point that my family, who are all fairly conservative (especially my sister, who regularly attends the National Prayer Breakfast) cut off all contact with Lucas. I recall either my dad or brother-in-law saying that one of them would find Bibles left by him in their mailboxes with passages bookmarked and highlighted in response to arguments that they got into on social media. It genuinely saddens me to see that Lucas has fallen so far that he's now a poster boy for how far American Christianity has strayed from the teachings of Christ. I honestly do think his younger self would be disgusted with what he's become.
I've said this before but if Jesus was alive today he would not be some rich man living in a mansion. He would be a guy hanging out with stoners and going to pride festivals.
Jesus Christ is no hippie he would burn everything down for he doesn’t like our wrongdoings. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 KJV
So let me get this straight. You think Jesus would not practice what he himself preached. You believe Jesus would be a hypocrite, someone who he hated? If that's the case then he sacrificed himself for absolutely nothing and your faith is worth less than dirt
@@georgelarie If you don’t believe in Jesus Christ than you will perish?11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:11-16 KJV
Revelation was apocalyptic fiction. It barely made the cut to be in the Bible and the only thing of note is the gamatria of 666 was about a guy named Caesar Nero who questioned the faith. It was meant as a middle finger to him. You are preaching a fairy tale to me like it means anything. Do your research on the Bible you love so much. There's more to it than you think. And it's actually pretty interesting.
@@georgelarie Well Jesus Christ is coming to destroy the wicked men he is coming sooner than you think all the things he said that will come is happening already so get ready for what is about to happen.3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate Matthew 24:3-10 KJV
I guess they eventually had to choose between charity, love and compassion or guns, nationalism and xenophobia. Looks like they’ve FINALLY decided on their true priorities. 🇺🇸
There's a meme in the trans community that Jesus was a trans man. His only biological parent was Mary, therefore he'd have had XX chromosomes. Yet he went by masculine pronouns and was only ever referred to as a man. There's even a miracle where he undergoes a dramatic change in appearance.
No. Jesus said not one jot or tittle would be removed from the laws. The Hebrew laws were against men and women wearing the opposite clothing. Jesus wasn't really a good dude
"To the church of my youth, What did you expect me to do? You taught me to love my neighbors, to model the life of Jesus. To be kind and considerate, and to stand up for the bullied. You taught me to love people, consider others as more important than myself. You taught me to sing "red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight." We sang it together, pressing the volume pedal and leaning our hearts into the chorus. You said that "He loved all the children of the world". You taught me to love my enemies, to even do good to those who wish for bad things. You taught me to never "hate" anyone and to always find ways to encourage people. You taught me it's better to give than receive, to be last instead of first. To help the poor, the widow, the stranger at the gate. You taught me that Jesus looks at what I do for the least-of-these as the true depth of my faith. You taught me to focus on my own sin and not to judge. You taught me to be accepting and forgiving. So I paid attention. I took in every lesson. And I did what you taught me. But now, you call me a "libtard". A queer-lover. You call me "woke." A backslider. You call me a heretic. You make fun of my heart. You mock the people I'm trying to help. You say I'm a child of the devil. You call me soft. A snowflake. A socialist. You shun the very people you told me to help. What did you expect me to do? I thought you were serious, but apparently not. You hate nearly all the people I love. You stand against nearly all the things I stand for. I'm trying to see a way forward, but it's hard when I survey all the hurt, harm, and darkness that comes in the wake of your beliefs and presence. What did you expect me to do? I'm only doing what you taught me Jesus Christ wanted us to do. What happened to you??
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The people who complained that we're, "taking Christ out of Christmas," are now taking Christ out of Christianity
They do love their slippery slopes...
Hey they never said conservatives were smart enough to hold two ideas on their tiny rock of a brain. LOL
They took it out the moment they started their holy wars against the nonbelievers hundreds of years ago.
SCREAMING 😭
This really isn’t that bad, they can just celebrate Xmas now🤔😏😂jk but oh god, the fargin’ jokes just write themselves nowadays, I pity ‘The Onion’ nowadays😂
Future conversation between 2 friends…
1st guy…..”I have to admit I have an X rated mind”
Second guy…..”Oh, does that mean you like free internet porn or are a certified Elon Musk fan?” 🤔😏😂
They did it.
The conservatives dismissed God Himself as woke.
So what you're saying is that they're the reason for all these storms?
Well since reality famously has a left wing bias, it's safe to say that the person behind it would also be left leaning
@@void-creature Maybe but the Abrahamic faith god is extremely right-wing.
@@GazB85 The Old Testment God is, New Testment is just a hippie.
@@GazB85a made up god is a tool of capital owners. News at 8.
Hi, evangelical Christian and committed follower of Jesus here, and I’ve been saying for _years_ now that “Christian” conservative endorsement of Trumpism and MAGA is nothing short of blasphemy- and we shall have to answer for it. I am heartbroken for what has become of MY faith community.
One could read the gospels, substituting “evangelical” for “Pharisee”, and it would be just as accurately relevant.
13:34 - the teachings of Jesus ARE subversive. They are intended to be!
Biden is just as bad
@@StoryMing the free Palestine chant was anti semetic, Jesus was Jewish
@@andybray9791
Yes Jesus was Jewish and antisemitism is evil.
…What does that have to do with Jesus, MAGA, and “Wokeness”?
@@andybray9791being Jewish doesn’t equal being a zionist….trust me Jesus would not approve of Israel today. And the people of Israel in the Bible lost their land because they lacked faith in God
Glad to see there is actually such a thing as a "religious left".
A lot of people think they can utterly reject the teachings of Christ and somehow still call themselves Christians.
well when you go to an evangelical mega church, it’s part of the program
To be fair, didn’t Paul do that first?
It depends on what kind of person you are. You can adjust Jesus to your worldview. If you are a conservative your jezus loves guns and hates the poor. And has white skin blonde hair and blue eyes
I think most of them don't even know what Jesus' teachings are to begin with.
But this is why I say - NONE of them are Christians.
I must have written this now about 30x on TH-cam, but this is my take.
All these people who claim to be chrsitians are NOT christians.
Here’s my analog -
Of you call yourself a vegan, but still snack on a chicken very so often…you’re not a vegan.
Same goes for chrstians. If they call themselves that, yet they don’t practice christian teachings, then they’re just not christians.
If I call myself a body builder, but I don’t go to the gym - I’m not a body builder.
These assholes who label themselves as Christians, do everything opposite to what a chrsitian follower should be doing. Thus they cannot be labelled as a christian. It’s that simple.
As a Mexican Catholic I always find it absolutely insane how crazy American missionaries are. Literally yesterday I was jokingly telling a friend that the evangelicals are about to decanonise Jesus because he's a good dude
Hermano conservatives Christians don’t make sense . To then is convert,follow the part of the Bible they want to follow, get rich and continue the same idiocy
Heard of Poe's law? Extreme views become indistinguishable from parody. Your joke became reality.
They are filthy animals the protestants have never been christian they are just filthy pagans with an alibi.
Lately, I've read a number of people describing themselves as "Trump Christians". What the heck? The only thing I can figure out is that they are taking Jesus out of the Gospels, and replacing him with Trump. Obviously, there can really be no such thing as a "Trump Christian".
@@melissapinol7279 trump Christian: inflicts more pain to those they deem unworthy of Jesus by their Moses aka tRump
I feel like they don't even know what Woke means anymore, they just call anything they don't like Woke.
It's very generous of you to assume that they EVER knew what it means.
It's a term taken from black people to mean non complacent or understanding the hurtles we are against and where we come from . I really dunno what this definition of woke is 😅
Pretty much.
@@leyrua yes in any other subject they ARE the dumbest people on the planet. but when it comes to their bigotry and hate, they are true scholars, and know exactly what they’re doing. It’s what drives them.
Just like Trump derangement syndrome got stolen and turned around because at the time Democratic messaging was weak...
Remember the bit in the Bible where Jesus heals the sick but only after they proved their insurance would be able to cover the costs?
No ,me neither
Ahh yes, the Parable of the Bootstraps
@@jplouthelgm5156yep that’s how he could walk on water, by lifting himself up by his boot straps.
He did feed the poor but it was just a big bribe to get poor people to vote him in as the son of god, fwiw 🤔😏🙄😂Jk
@@leelewis8749hey isnt that how the lorax was able to ASCEND
i love the comments on this one
Calling Jesus a "Woke Liberal" seems tame... during my Freshman year of Catholic High School (secondary school), I was branded a Communist for quoting the Bible (Acts of the Apostles).
And this... The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
Back when I was more confident in my faith (enough to subscribe to a particular sect and type of theism) I drew my socialism from the Book of Acts, my grandad who was an old school Labour trade unionist also came from the Social Gospel trend. Socialism in the UK was heavily Christian in the early days
@@ApostleofTzeentch The difference between Peter’s socialism and political socialism is its separation between church and state. People could still be Christian and not be part of that commune, while others who are part of commune can mingle among the general economy as well. One isn’t forced to be in the commune and can join, leave, rejoin, at will. It was an option not a politics. Peter sent all the brethren out and away from Jerusalem and it is never mentioned what happened to that commune.
The religious right aren't even a religion anymore. They're too stupid to study scripture, or possibly even to read. They'll follow anyone who is loud and passionate. These are the kind of people who would worship at the church of the great potato-faced tuna squirrel if the pastor used the right tone of voice. The US is getting scarier every day. I moved to Peru and as volatile as the politics are here, I actually feel safer. At least I'm not trapped in a coast to coast insane asylum.
@termination9353 you are coping extremely hard. If the bible depicts Jesus accurately to the barest extent, he is undeniably what we would today call a socialist.
"In truth, there was only one Christian and he died on the cross."
-Nietzsche
Nyeh nyeh nyeh. 😂😂
Wasn't he Jewish tho? 🍝
The bible says we're all sinners. Jesus was the only truly good person.
@@Baconcatboy The bible says we're all sinners, Jesus was the only one to forgive. The bible also says we all have Original Sin because of something the bible says we did...
How would Nietzsche explain the thousands of people called Christian, then?
I'm an atheist, but even I can't shake how well Trump fits the criteria for the anti-christ.
As an history student I can tell you "the huge revelation" that every now an then people call political leaders "the antichrist". Almost as many times as they predicted the end if t'he world. Its just part of that cult-like mindset
Part of being the Antichrist is acknowledging Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and rebuilding the Temple.
Christians wearing his mark on their foreheads (MAGA hats) and everything. I'm also an atheist these days, but all the parallels really creep me out deep down. Probably because I was raised evangelical.
I’d have thought the anti-Christ would be intelligent but I suppose stupidity and ignorance could be seen as anti-godly.
@@theheresiarch3740 i thought it was wako too. But look at how they handle the “end of the world.” For people who claim to love the world, they seem pretty invested in the world ending. With how fanatic they are with (seeming to) wanting it to happen.
As an American Muslim, it’s absolutely wild that conservatives are rejecting Christianity and threatening to “embrace” Islam because Jesus preached basic human decency.
Wait until they discover Islam requires them to treat people wayyy better than Christianity does😂
“Unga bunga Jesus tee-chings Weak like Woman. Ape want be strong!”
Many progressives called it. Radical Christians will turn to radical Islam because they’re overlapping with Taliban beliefs. Reducing women’s rights, rejection of institutions, embracing violence
This folks where never christian. That's the point. They go to church out of habit and socializing.
@@Hippidippimahm I'm not even Muslim but isn't a core pillar of the religion that you should give to the needy on a regular basis? Yeah that's gonna be a hoot
They always hated Jesus. Always. It's just that now they feel confident enough to admit it.
I’m not so sure they actually REALIZED it before now…
@StoryMing no, they did. They are liars. But theybare also cowards, so they won't admit to a thing they know is bad, unless they think they have numbers behind them ready to also admit they are bad.
@@StoryMingthat would have required critical thinking so I agree
They love Paul more than Jesus because he was less soft and said what they wanted to hear to support their biases regarding slavery, women's rights and homosexuality, whereas Jesus essentially advocated for communism (Luke 14:33) and also not evangelizing and pushing their beliefs on others, especially praying (Matt. 6:6). Not only that but they reshaped Jesus into their own image: a white skinned man who hated everyone who they hated and adored everything they said they did in the name of the Lord. In reality they didn't care about Jesus' actual teachings but used him as a tool, object, to validate what was right in their own eyes. (Judges 21:25)
The only thing they've ever given a shit about is that he died for their sins. They quote the Pauline Epistles and the OT more than they quote the man they supposedly believe was literally god incarnate
USA Conservatives would've put Jesus on the Cross and lobbied for laws to be passed against following his teaching in leu of whatever dogma was prominent at the time.
I tend to word it 'stapled to a telephone pole', but otherwise yes.
Wolf, wulf; potato, tomato.
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Same with stonewall etc they would crucify Jesus on the cross
As a Venezuelan Catholic who migrated to the USA I always found American Christianity very strange and backwards, they treat their faith less as means to spread goodwill and sincerity towards others and more as a brand to make money.
"Religion in America is a mile wide and an inch deep."
@@ILikeLanguages True, but with christianity its most apparent.
Bingo.
And a rhetorical "anything-goes" to obfuscating any discussion. They just rewrite whatever they want because they've never even read the bible anyways and they use it to shut down discussion by making it seem like you're somehow stomping on their religious views.
good ol' 'murrican capitalism
As a child, I grew up thinking Jesus was my best friend and I wanted to do what he taught but as I grew older, the church and his teachings were so wildly different that I quit the church. I never stopped thinking Jesus was right about a lot of things though.
Don’t leave church because of Judas
@@ninjaked1265 Nobody cares
@@ninjaked1265... Yeah, please finance an extreamly abusiv organidation that insults and weaponised a religion ment for kindness and goes against everything the prophet taught
Thats the reason I never believed and hated getting forces to church, the cognitive dissonance.... Still i have a lot of respect for jesus and everyone who actually follows his teachings
@@ninjaked1265 They said the exact opposite, bozo
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Gandhi
Spot on.
Good quote but let's not butt kiss him tooo much. He was a racist pos after all lolz.
* One of the first battles Gandhi fought after coming to South Africa was over the separate entrances for whites and blacks at the Durban post office. Gandhi objected that Indians were “classed with the natives of South Africa,” who he called the kaffirs, and demanded a separate entrance for Indians.
“We felt the indignity too much and … petitioned the authorities to do away with the invidious distinction, and they have now provided three separate entrances for natives, Asiatics and Europeans.”
here is another fun gandhi fact
@@averagedemocrat9546Gandhi and his colleagues served and helped Africans as nurses and by opposing racism. The Nobel Peace Prize winner Nelson Mandela is among admirers of Gandhi's efforts to fight against racism in Africa. Scholars have also pointed the evidence to a rich history of co-operation and efforts by Gandhi and Indian people with nonwhite South Africans against persecution of Africans and the Apartheid. Gandhi also led a volunteer mixed unit of Indian and African stretcher-bearers to treat wounded combatants during the suppression of the Bambatha Rebellion.
The Kaffir statement was made in a 1896 speech were he said that White Europeans Agressors in S.Africa were now classifying Indians along with the Black Africans in their racist attacks. He never meant to use the word in a demeaning sense. To him the word was just a term like the word Indian is. He used this term in The Times of India, 1896 to oppose the relentless bullying Black kids would face from European kids.
@@averagedemocrat9546 do you know what "invidious distinction" is, the quote you just brought up was him petitioning the authorities to do away with it.
I'm a complete atheist and these people still manage to offend my religious feelings.
I sure as hell don't wanna be associated with them, and I was raised in a secular family.
Lol I am a born Hindu and I feel like I should be offended on Jesus’ behalf lol
Similar. I saw the insult-eyesore-clock-tower the Saudis raised over the holy site of Mecca, and said immediately to myself, "Jihad." The power-hungry will embrace any religion to serve their purpose, then trample that same religion underfoot when it impedes them. See Hitler and Christianity.
SAME! lolz
@@someonerandom8552- no one is "born Hindu"
No one is born anything
Uh... To go one step further, Jesus didn't marry. He wasn't married to a sex worker. He loved her but I don't recall any part of the biblical text about him being married. Actually he had many unmarried female friends who he was very close to, which would have been something to see in those days, and that's not to mention all his other friends who were tax collectors, fishermen, and all different types of misfits. He had no issue hanging with gentiles, sex workers, lepers, homeless and sick people, etc.
I think I was in my last year of high school when I realized that most American conservatives who call themselves Christians must not actually be familiar with their own holy text because their capitalist republican world view is pretty much the antithesis of everything Jesus did and stood for. Then ever since 2016 I've been waiting for them to start calling Jesus out as woke and beginning to hate and deny him, while still calling themselves Christians of course.
I've seen so many secular people talk about supporting Christ but not Christians. Of course it was only a matter of time before the Christians would stop supporting Christ. They're right about him being a leftist though 😂
I heard somewhere that for Christians, the only thing that matters is that Jesus died and the way he died, they don't care about how he lived.
@@RR_theproaholeweird obsession with human sacrifice right there
@@RR_theproaholeClear cognitive dissonance. Incredible how people live by lying to themselves constantly just to not feel bad about the person they are.
Not discriminate? No that's too hard and I'm scared of everything thats different so my response to all this is angrily saying no 5 times.
Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. FFS how d**b does someone have to be to still believe what a pope lied about nearly 2000 years ago. 🙄
He may have been married and its been written out. Would have been unusual for a mid 30s Jewish man not to be married by then.
I like how conservatives have a choice, get rid of the hypocrisy or get rid of the religion that proves they're hypocrites.
They got rid of the religion. 🤔
While still happily proclaiming themselves Christian to anyone in earshot whenever possible. They love their little hate circle-jerk social group, they can't be bothered to actually pay attention to the religion they claim to be a part of.
So, paradoxically, they're atheists... question mark?
@@Echo81Rumple83 Maybe they will resort to inventing a religion to suit their worldview or do some digging, find another system of beliefs and bastardize the living shit out of it.
@@Echo81Rumple83 nah, they worship Mammon.
They are fitting their religion to their already held beliefs even if it is the exact opposite. Prosperity gospel is another example.
If Jesus came back today Republicans would tell him to cut his hair put some pants on and charge people for healing them.
They would staple him to a telephone pole for being a soy commie cuck.
That's all? No, we all know they would grab him and nail him back onto that cross.
He was a brown skinned Middle Eastern man with passionate moral beliefs, who was outspoken against state power and religious authorities. They would throw him in Gitmo, if not crucify him again.
jesus is black though.
let that sink in
@@rodolfodocegtfo with that noi bullshit
Love the implication that a fundamentally religious jewish man who lived over 2000 years ago is too woke because...*checks notes* he said to help poor people.
Judeo-Christianity teaching is still strong in Hungary compared to uk which diluted it
@@andybray9791 In england and USA many people worship Adam Smith and Ayn Rand more and dont like where it contradicts Jesus.
@@mweskampppexactly. All this right-wing trash isn't actually Christian. Especially the capitalism! They use the name "Christian" because it's part of Western culture. Leftists should understand that Christianity isn't the problem and many leftist ideals are actually closer to the Bible than right-wing ideals are
@@andybray9791 strong in dictatorship hungary? Really fuck the poor glorify the rich hungary?
@@andybray9791 hahaha are you joking?
They love their hatred and bigotry more than they love their professed savior.
And then Jesus came back again and told everyone the truth and no Conservative simped for him ever again.
Conservatives truly engage in 1984 levels of double think.
Qultists love'em some 1984!
They've just never, you know... actually read it.
They never even bothered to watch the movie, ffs...
Speaking of Ministry of Truth...There never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
Cheh-Cheh-Cheh-Cheh. . .
Hah-Hah-Hah-Hah . . .
@@ChA0s_AgeNt Well I’ve read it, studied it….And he is right. We are being driven into Ingsoc.
@@termination9353do you just look for any connection to post this same comment? 😂 also where is your source for this? Also what difference would it make?
By rejecting Jesus, they are literally saying they aren't Christian.
Well this is… interesting to say the least. I’m definitely surprised conservatives finally managed to notice.
Baby steps
Hitler himself privately said that he kind of wished Germany hadn't be left with such a "weak" religion like Christianity, and he saw Islam's teachings as superior to the kind of society he wanted to enforce. Islam doesn't teach "turning the other cheek" but instead, retaliation to extreme lengths. However, he played the Christian role because he knew he had to with his people. I wonder how long it will be before we see more far-right people converting to Islam, I suspect we might see at least a small but noticeable trend in young far-right males doing this, after Andrew Tate decided to become one.
Only took'em about 250 years, give or take...
…. notice that Jesus was basically a proto -socialist? Yah that only took them 2000 years.
I've been calling out the hypocrisy for decades. They never ever see it and still won't even in this instance
White American conservative Christians finally opened their bibles.
What an awful shock they got 😂
bold of you to assume they can read.
"White American conservative Christians finally opened their bibles." - Yeah, on the wrong pages, those they were never allowed to read before. There's a reason that this book was only in Latin (and Greek before that) for centuries so that ordinary people couldn't read it and were forced to believe their priests about what was written inside, and how it had to be interpreted (it was Martin Luther who translated it into the language of the people around him, a language that evolved into German, and the Catholic church hated him for that). Now everyone can read and see what's actually in it …
William Tyndale wants to know if he's a joke to you? he was the first to translate the Bible @@c.augustin
@@rhiwright Never heard of William Tyndale and his bible translation (here in Germany ;-)). And his was not even the first English translation, as I've just read. But when it comes to influence, he just can't compete with Martin Luther (at least for continental Europe). But as far as I can make out, they actually did it at roughly the same time (Luther was not the only one who worked on the project of "his" bible, and there were earlier translations into German as I've just learned), and both created new words and phrases for their respective language that are still in use today. I'll keep this in mind.
I'm a socialist and a Christian (Episcopalian) in America and let me tell you, it is extremely hard to feel confident in my faith when the entire narrative in this country is constructed by right-wing evangelicals. Whenever I feel doubt due to these crowds, I just remember that Jesus' entire message was firmly against stances of hate and bigotry.
I was also raised catholic, and I remember when I heard about communism for the first time and I thought "wow, these ideas sound a lot like the christian values Jesus taught" 🤣
Which is even crazier considering that Catholic Church was deeply involved in fight against USSR. Now one could argue that Soviet communism was not real communism but it's still funny
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I remeber the Bible literally saying that early Christians basically lived in communist communes. They sold their possessions and shared the profits among all the community to each according to their needs.
This is another thing that bugs me.
Catholics are actually the original Christians. They believe in Christ. They follow the teachings. If anyone says they’re not christians I’m sorry, they’re just really stupid people.
There never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
A figure that was meant to show love and compassion to everyone. Especially those who are marginalized and fucked by the system. Conservatives hate him?
This is groundbreaking.
It's not just that. It's that Conservatives *who self-identify as Christian* hate him. They very people who use their religion to try to justify their bigotry.
He would show compassion and love for everyone but there is no especially.
@fisheryboi835 Sure. He would also be hated by left too to be honest. Saw what happened when Mr beast just gave out free surgeries? Imagine if Jesus was here. He would be cancelled for helping people.
@@gandalainsley6467 well, if he was making whole circus out of it, screaming "look how poor those people are and how generous I am! remember to like, subscribe and buy whatever I'm sponsored by today!", then yeah but jesus was also kinda about humility
@@blairfujin The circus kinda followed him wherever he went though, and I have a feeling that a lot of people of the time thought he was intentionally making a circus of it.
So basically theyre being more open and honest about their bigotry
Which is scary cause once they drop the pretense they will eventually start dropping people off cliffs
The idea that the Jesus of the bible would be in any way close to the right wing is insane.
Facts!
I think I could find a centrist reading in Christ's teachings. At least when it comes to the Jesus described in NT. I suspect that the OG Christ was more radical
So according to NT Jesus didn't really come down to Earth to start a political revolution. His job was to spread the good message and be sacrificed. As a Christian you should definitely follow his teachings but you shouldn't strive to overthrow the abusive colonialism of Roman Empire. He even sent back a run away slave back to his master hoping he would be kind for the newly converted Christian
I think this passivity could be written in the Biblie by NT authors whose names we don't even know. We know they weren't his disciples. They spoke Greek, they were educated - definitely not bunch of poor Jewish people. I suspect his radical message could've been neutered to fit better for the new audience. For ancient Roman pagans who didn't saw anything bad in their empire
Real jesus walked around with automatic rifles and beat people who fed to homeless to an inch of their lives for not obeying law and order by getting a proper permit. He went to the moneylenders and screamed against capital gains taxes and railed against the poor, reminding them they signed a contract and only communists hate usury.
The Jesus of the Bible was not a good dude. The sermon on the mount is absolutely terrible
There are quite a few books in the NT, and some of them are trying to spin their account in different directions.
I thought "Right Wingers after finding out Jesus 'woke' on the third day' would be nothing more than a meme joke, but it's actually real.
💀
Right-Wingers when they realize that they *wake* up every single day
*sad Trumpy noises*
At this point, the right wing’s just a parody of itself
If it’s anything I have accepted about the last 20 years, it’s that jokes are real now.
This kinda reminds me of the height of the “happy holidays” bullshit where some morning news channel brought a priest on expecting him to complain about people not saying “merry Christmas.” The priest basically said he didn’t care and that he would rather people stop commodifying a holy day in his faith.
Conservatives have been at odds with their Christian faith for a long time.
Conservatives just go through life without ever once stopping to think, “Hey, ya know, maybe it’s me.”
I mean c'mon, be fair, they only have... **checks notes** ...100% of reality going against them. That's not nearly enough to be sure.
That would require self introspection but that's too scary...
Why would they stop to think? They're decent, God-fearing Christians therefore everything they say and do is correct by default
Not going to hold my breath for their “are we the baddies?” revelation.
Nah, they are too busy revving their polar bear-killing, Lifted Dodge Ram at a school crossing to really give a shit. ☠
I love how conservatives (used to) love a radical figure like Jesus, who was generally anti-capitalist/materialist, anti-hate, and got crucified because he spoke out against the heavily traditionalist society. Jesus was an OG SJW lol
Traditionalist society wasn’t exactly materialistic though. It was very supernaturalistic.
Lilith speaking out against the social norm predates jesus by a lot. tho society was very small back then ;)
Without religious context, yes. Jesus was a prominent religious revolutionary. Can't believe it took over 2,000 years for the "Conservative" folk to realize that.
far from, rather very conservative and a violent cultist freak @@austria-hungary4981
The part about Jesus "embracing sex workers" is not true, though. Mary Magdalene has never been proven to be a sex worker, despite the popular mythology. People have merely conflated her with a similar woman in the Gospels, and perhaps also with the adulteress Jesus saved from being stoned.
If Jesus were here today preaching the things he did in the Bible, conservatives would call him a woke socialist Jew and tell him to go back to his own country
They would just kill him all over again. As a Christian, I can’t help but draw the parallels between how the people in Israel in the time in history when Jesus came were expecting a warrior to lead the revolution and they literally rejected him and some even killed him because his messages of love, compassion and forgiveness were so radical to how they were living. I see so many American “Christians” who would be fully expecting Jesus to show up with Tommy guns in hand leading a bloody revolution against “the woke” and the “liberals destroying the country.”
I mean he was an illegal immigrant fleeing political unrest...
"Capitalism didn't exist back then"
Jesus looks down at the broken tables and whipped backs of loan sharks in front of the temple.
I think Capitalism as a codified philosophy didn't exist then. I don't remember hearing of an Antiquity-era _Wealth of Nations_ ever being written.
@@Theomite Capitalism is not a codified philosophy. It was a term used by Karl Marx and other leftists of the 19th century to describe the economy of their time. So, in a way, Karl Marx invented Capitalism when he was criticising it. The Wealth of Nations is not really about what one might call capitalism, but rather markets, which is a capitalist myth (ie that markets regulate themselves and this is good or something).
Jesus was announced as king of Israel in that choice between Jesus and Barabbas. Quickly said, Pilot dressed Jesus up as King, Pilot presented Jesus to the Sanhedrin and high priest among the crowd as "their King". Told the crowd to choose to crucify "their King" or Barabbas. The Saducees and High Priest chose "their king" Jesus to be crucified and instigated the Jewish crowd to choose "their King" to be crucified..... and so the Priesthood anointed Jesus as their king in order for him to be executed. And Pilat published this fact above Jesus head at a time when Jerusalem was most crowded of Jews from all over the realm.
What this accomplished was to legalize according to Torah law Jesus' amended covenant and make irrelevant all burdensome Talmudic rules.
I think Jesus and Pilat planned it together. Neet trick on the Sanhedrin huh.
the gospels are fiction so jesus never did anything -
People were already calling 'modern' (as in 18th/19th century) economies 'capitalist' and proponents of the changes, especially the factory owners, 'capitalists' way before marx and not as a critique
I’m not actually surprised by this. A lot of the higher ups in the Nazi party also condemned Jesus as being too loving and compassionate. Hitler called Christianity “flabby” and was much more impressed by Islam, which is prophetic given how many far right guys are now converting to Islam.
Probably a self-fulfilling prophecy in a lot of cases
So Jesus is too loving for extremists and psychopaths
A lot of the Nazis were neo-pagans, hence their love of runes, which still appears in the iconography of modern day nazis. Neitzche was an influence upon Nazi ideology (although arguably Nietzche himself was anti-authoritarian). Now having dabbled in neo-paganism myself I have had to ask myself, by way of self-reflection, what is it about neo-paganism that would appeal to a fascist? Maybe that link is a but of a red flag that should be noted. So, here's the thing: we don't really have any accurate or verifiable idea what pre-christians believed, and moreover all generalisations will be wrong because they no doubt held a diversity of views, so what neo-paganism does is grant the user a means to declare the authority of a supposed ancient tradition whilst giving them the freedom to rewrite codes of morality as they see fit, so a neo-pagan could, feasibly, declare the notion that mercy and forgiveness and a policy of non-violence are virtuous are symptoms of a christian slave morality foisted upon us by an invading religion and that would be a convenient mythology for a fascist to explain to themselves why these things that seem virtuous are weaknesses to be discarded. It's potentially a mythological rationale for extreme moral relativism - an extreme moral relativism that might permit atrocities. That is a reason to treat neopaganism with a bit of caution; to be aware of that potential abuse.
Wait till they find out that Jesus (Isa) is also a very important prophet in Islam and Islam has a lot of left wing economic ideas encouraged like paying taxes and donating to the poor.
Islam is so against the idea of being wasteful that if you do not use something you buy, like an article of clothing for a certain amount of time you are required to pay a tax on it.
The only real conservative facets Islam preaches is more on the social side, such as gendered roles and rules that differ based on your sex, such as the hijab requirements for men and women.
@@halinaqi2194and its insistence on a centralized identity and expansionist mindset
We need separation of church and state
Seems like a very good idea in general
Isn't that in the first amendment?😅
@@Samson16436 We just had a state put the 10 commandments in every classroom
@@nothanks9503that's not fair! Let's do what those satanic dudes are doing and demand go put the ten satanic commands that are even more woke than jesus
@@nothanks9503 sadly church schools have been indoctrinated by external culture invading, undermining separation of church and state. Work with culture not slip into it
Funny thing is Jesus always had a socialist leaning
If you even look at how the early Christians behaved, they pooled their wealth and distributed it based on need.
But he wasn't woke. He didn't support gender ideology, no lgbtq+, and no other virtue signaling nonsense. Hell even communist like che Guevara and Nelson Mandela weren't for that. So lest you forget Wokism is a degenerate culture that came out spoiled rich brats from USA.
Yup
I disagree. The OT has socialist leanings. Seriously, building codes, health codes, greedy idiots getting fried for being greedy idiots, anti wage theft, providing for the less fortunate, etc. These come up over and over.
Jesus was a communist. From each according to their ability, to each according to their need. Free health care and food.
No,he fed people.
The term "Christian conservative" has always been an oxymoron.
theres still a little conservatism in christianity's purist form but thats also because the village of Nazareth was pretty conservative at the time and its impossible to tell how much of his teachings were changed from their original teachings because you know, everyones dead. a lot of the socialism and communism in his teachings come from the anti roman anti imperalism.
This depends on whether you take the words as they claim to use them or as they do use them.
For example, if you see someone forcibly take food from a child, some people will say this is very un-Christian, others will point to all the Christians doing it and say the sandal fits.
@@BaronVonQuiplywhat Christians ate taking food from children?
@@peterwallis4288 Republicans
@@BaronVonQuiply when? I've never heard of that.
Gay Canadian here, I dislike that we are neighbours with the US cause all the negative stuff and views like this sneaks over the border. My last visit to the states was my last. I never interacted with so many hate based and sensitive ego people in my life. Didn't used to be like that, used to love American neighbours.
Well maybe you should stop celebrating your gayness in front of kids.
Sexual desires are nothing to be proud of, especially when the only thing you can do with it is immediate, undeserved pleasure
You must be a religious person. Atheist and science based and fact based here so we can not really have a debate.. Hope you have a great day.@@Ejacunathan
@@matty_ottawa8173that's not a very "fact based" thing to day. People who are relgious can be scientific and factual, to say otherwise is simply arrogant.
That must suck, maybe try to associate with better people? Too bad Canada's going to hell in a handbasket though.
If I've said t once, I'll say it a million times. Conservatives have a child's view on what strength is.
What do you mean?
@@gregtaylor9806they think that being a strong person means you have to bully everyone else and always brag about how powerful you are.
@@thememelord5975funny, that's what I see both conservatives and liberals doing.
What liberals do you see bullying or putting down people?
Conservatives always being hypocritical! What a shock.
Exactly.
Qtards gotta qtard; it's an (unfortunate) scientific fact.
Try being a former conservative in some states and point out that the current evangelical leaders are worse than Jim Jones ever was. You will get censured from the cult leaders.
Yep since Jesus would give food and water to the needy but people get arrested in the USA for giving water to people who line up to cast a vote
Liberals*
I don’t want to act that there isn’t a lot of terrible oppressive stuff in the Hebrew Bible, but I want to caution people who are culturally Christian from acting like Christian interpretations of the Old Testament are the same as Jewish interpretations. A common one is ‘Old Testament god is vengeful Jesus is forgiving’. This is actually directly from early anti Jewish propaganda in christian rome. There are many conflicting portrayals of god in the Hebrew Bible, and basically everything Jesus does and says in the NT is a paraphrase of something written in an older scripture. trying to resolve these contradictions is largely why most jews came to understand god as nondualistic and impersonal. god, like nature, is both kind and cruel, and is so far beyond our understanding that sitting with the contradictions is one of the fundamental parts of Jewish faith. Imo Christian’s, particularly modern ones, are more interested in explaining away contradictions than they are accepting them. I mean Catholics invented original sin and then had to invent the immaculate conception because of the problem this created. Again, not that Judaism has not been oppressive, but if we only understand jews and Judaism through the Christian lens we are getting a very distorted picture
Great point. At their cores I’ve noticed that Jews culturally and religious “struggle” with the concept of god. They’re always analyzing and debating their scriptures to better understand it. It’s why many ethnic Jews can be atheist but still practice Judaism as a whole
Meanwhile Christianity, particularly American Protestant Charismatic Christianity branches, demands complete obedience to God and authority. You don’t question it or anything and must believe the exact right thing and act accordingly
Jesus had two fathers and grew up just fine.
Two fathers and underage mother
@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Yeahhhh, that too... Yikes.
Jesus' had the first the first poly parents too.
ok i wouldn't go that far, anyone alive before 1986 had it pretty rough. even being born in the 20th century is pushing it
@@angelikaskoroszyn8495like god like priest/j
Jesus would be appalled by these people.
They’d call him a Muslim terrorist for being a brown bearded man born in Palestine.
@@IngramSnakepretty much 😂 theyd be the same as the romans
Wait until they find out his mother was Jewish.
He’d be flipping tables and whipping people.
@@IngramSnakeAlso a communist
I've read Friedrich Engels' article "On the History of Early Christianity" (which is only 28 pages long and I highly recommend to read it), and I can surely say that early Christians' communes were mostly anarchist in nature:
1. They were growing their own food, making their own tools etc.
2. Had no monetary relationships between themselves.
3. Had no distinct leader who would hold all the power to choose what the group will do.
4. All work was done voluntary, for the sake of survival and devotion to God and Jesus Christ.
If I was taught right this is where Marx got his idea for the basis of Marxist Communism
@@internetuser4210 At least partially, yeah. It's in the name, communism is based on how people in communes live.
@@nathangamble125 commune+ism communism it actually makes perfect sense
So... the basic idea of caring about the people around you is "woke?"
At this point, woke is just an umbrella term for anything the right doesn’t like. Essentially, woke=bad, therefore, bad=woke. Initially, it just meant being aware of discrimination and racial prejudice, but now the LGBTQ is woke, defunding the police is woke, socialism? is woke, etc.
It’s basically synonymous with the left.
Well "woke" is related to He woke up (to the problems around him)
My metaphorical take is--
The benighted woke up. Once awakened, they became enlightened.
@susanmallet766 is not a bad one... but you know they won't let you use "enlightening" to describe the same thing.
Always has been
Yep. That's what Christians hate.
I"m surprised these folks are media savvy enough to notice jesus is woke
Bold of you to assume qtards can notice much of... anything.
They're great at being *told,* though.
They just get pointed at something and told its 'woke'. Then they attack. Because they have no functioning brain cells.
In fairness it did take them awhile to finally figure it out
They’re just taking a shotgun approach and calling anything they don’t like woke, so it was gonna happen eventually
@@jurassicsmackdown6359- *2,000 years* in fact...
Extremely poignant now - especially the part about how Christians would rather emulate the warring God than good-guy-Jesus now. :(
"what did he say that's got everyone so upset?"
"be kind to each other."
"oh. yeah, that'd do it"
I'm reminded of an episode of _Star Trek: TNG_ in which a Ferengi Daimon offers to return a derelict starship to the Federation, and his officers ask him, in astonishment, "AT NO COST?!"
The church I attended as a kid always had a photo of that Ghandi quote hanging in the kids classrooms - "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
We were told this quote stayed hung up to continuously remind us to be more Christ-like in nature, to show the love of Jesus to others around us through our actions and not to wear Christianity as an armour against criticism of our behavior.
That quote is now maligned by hoards of Christians who were completely unable to face the reality of their own hypocrisy.
It was because of that reminder that I left the church behind as an adult.
Maybe God exists. But if I have to believe and act like Conservative Christians do in order to make it into heaven, I'd rather be literally anywhere else.
If heaven is full of evangelical types..then to quote acdc hell ain't a bad place to be
@@richardcoolidge1071"hell ain't a bad place to be" LOL
Fr lmao
If Heaven is full of evangelicals, doesn't that make it He'll anyway?
They do not worship Christ. They worship Trump and have no right to complain when they finally find themselves face to face with their damnation.
Every person of faith ends up creating a God in their own image. Those who like punishment create an angry, vengeful God. Those who want the freedom to do whatever they want create a liberal or indifferent God. Those who want a lot of stuff create a SantaClaus-type God who just sprinkles gifts upon them. I'm not convinced anyone has ever gotten it 100% "right"
the right position is there is no god, it’s all a fabrication of the human mind.
Doug Forcett was the closest to getting it right, but even then it was only 92% correct
My concept of God is that they just started the simulation and observe how it all plays out. To us, it's been millions of years of evolution but to a cosmic entity that we can not even begin to comprehend......🫣🤷🏻♀️
@spaceboy.digitaland?
@spaceboy.digitalthere is the whole "man made in His image" (or something like that) thing that has persisted over time, so ...
I'm not shocked. Although there may be some problematic elements in the Bible (if one follows it from a fundamental perspective); Jesus has been portrayed as kind, and arguably left leaning in the Bible. This is the message that Liberation Theologians like MLK Jr and Desmond Tutu have been trying to explain about Jesus, and how they have used that message to help liberate those who are oppressed.
They also reject Martin Luther's teachings. He hated when political leaders took bribes/lobbyists. Now they refuse to live without such concessions. He also said belief alone was the key to salvation, and yet they're still the biggest moral busybodies with the least interest in the general public's good.
THEY FINALLY DID IT! We've been saying this for years in my circles, but I didn't think it would actually happen.
Looks like Jesus Christ has finally given them a reality check. Even though I am a communist, I like this "Second Coming of the Christ" thing that has now brought chaos onto the "Conservatives" in America.
Between this, stanning Russia and stanning the Taliban, at least they’re more honest with themselves
"Hans, are we the baddies?"
Not entirely honest with themselves, they still consider themselves patriots somehow despite loving their enemies and making things worse for their fellow citizens
American Christian: Jesus your woke!
Jesus: yes i am awakened forever more!
American Christian: arggghh. Wait thats not what i mean do you care about black people.
Jesus: I am black, so yes
American Christian: no your white.
Jesus: Revelation 1:14-15.
I have bronze skin and my hair is like Pure Wool.
American Christians: i am pagan now.
I wouldn't say Black as in African American but he definitely wasn't white lol
Why care about the skin color? Jesus is Jesus and there is only one Jesus.
@@JosephFlores-yn4yiOf course he wasn't African American. America didn't exist during the time of the Roman empire. He was most likely Middle Eastern, rather than African, though.
@@Division101 because the idea of jesus as white and therefore white people being closer to god has historically been used to justify violence and subjugation of people of color
@@VoxAstra-qk4jzmakes sense, other abrahamic religions take place in roughly the same area.
Just popped in to say not only was he woke, he was a SOCIALIST!!
No he wasnt. Read the gospels and not just the memes. Jesus was a liberal. He preached being meek and turning the other cheek in the face of roman occupation and oppression of Judea. He hung around with roman tax collectors and taught that we shouldnt resist evil people.
He was neither.
I’m an atheist now, but when I was 13 going through confirmation in my church, I was beginning to notice how incongruous the words I was reading in the bible were with how most people in that church conducted themselves. The pastors themselves were fine (similar to the pastor mentioned in this video), but there was a pretty sizable number of people who would talk smack behind other congregants’ backs just out in the open because they weren’t around to hear it.
There was almost this sense of moral superiority and feelings of invincibility around these people, because they believed they could just act terrible to others and be justified because they were active in the church so it canceled out. And if they did do something wrong, they could just pray about it and move on.
I never once saw any of these people try to better themselves of their own volition in the 8 years I was there.
You do know that you fell in other group that acts like that right? Woke crowd acts the same. (I am here because I like seeing how people think on all sides. )
@@gandalainsley6467May you please substantiate what you mean when you say the other group acts like “that”?
I don’t think anyone will get your point unless you articulate it more clearly. Group-think at least still implies thought- this comment borders on jest
@@tyjhepengel5342 I think you solved the mystery of "you don't make sense" thing that I see a lot of people from the left say when someone brings up something they disagree with. Its not that they disagree with it, they are just too dumb to understand the concept. Thank you I guess? I might have had too high expectations because I don't have to oversimplify stuff this much anywhere else.
@@gandalainsley6467ecaiac
You outed yourself when you said "woke crowd". Why are you acting like you're a centrist and why go after the OP making assumptions about his character and those he hangs around with just because he said the people in his church didn't live by the bible's teachings?
To me it just shows that people never followed religion for the truth of it, but for their own gain. Those who sticked to the scriptures were always exceptions.
Wait til they find out that Jesus wasn't white with blonde hair & blue eyes
Suggesting Jesus is not white may be punishable blasphemy one day.
Jesus was poor, olive skinned and didn’t speak English. He can translate better than Google. In heaven who knows what happens bet we’ll understand each other properly speaking one language (whatever it will be)
@@andybray9791 Yup we might go to Heaven all speaking Hebrew or conversing with people through psychic powers
DEI Jesus... typical. Smh
@@lawlaw295how is that blasphemy….”oh if you say Jesus isn’t white that’s blasphemy” first of all he was born in the middle east, second if you didn’t word that right that sounds like blatant “white is superior” talk
honestly, "the dude who can't possibly have changed *his* mind for 2k+ years is woke *now* " is one impressive stunt!
it's incredible how I, an atheist, have more respect for Jesus as a philosophical figure that this supposed Christians that should think he's the son of God
"Where did you get those woke talking points!?" conservatives asked calmly.
"T -- the bible . . ."
I mean, Jesus would have 100% gotten cancelled over the Samaritan parable
Not all Samaritans are bad ;)
The Samaritans are not sending their best
Would be a budlight with trans person 😂
...you what now?
Some I assume are good people
Jesus the man existed in the Roman Census and I’m in the camp he was a real person just due to some records we have, but also he wasn’t the only doomsday preacher at the time. He also considered himself a Jewish teacher and a sect of Judaism, one of many. After he died he just had a small subset of followers, alongside a bunch of other sects. It’s really fascinating how Paul was the true birth of Christianity, taking a small sect and making missionaries, denouncing the current faiths etc. Sometimes I wonder what the world would have been like if not for Paul. Great vid!
Im an now 500 percent convinced religious people have never read the bible
In Medieval England you literally couldn't read it, in that you weren't allowed, couldn't have access to one and they were all in Latin. Most people couldn't even read English let alone Latin.
John Wycliffe translated them into English which was seen as radical heresy, and this inspired the Hussites in Bohemia later.
Religion has always been about cherry picking the text to suit an agenda. Same thing today, sure people *can* read the bible but no one does
Barely anyone has because it's not the easiest read and most of it isn't that interesting, it's not all women lusting for donkeys (Ezekiel 23:30)
According to polling of atheists, the number one reason they become atheists is that they read the Bible and found out what it actually says. The number two reason, which was my reason, is the hypocrisy and immorality of religious believers. The number three reason, incidentally, is learning more about science.
I've said for years that every person should read it through at least once. Those who disagree with it will then be able to quote it and explain why they disagree with it, and those who claim to believe it will be able to quote it and explain why they believe it/agree with it. Also, it's always better to read sthg for one's self, instead of taking anyone else's word on what it says: the Bible, a contract, an indictment, etc
I'm surprised people are only now catching on
From what I perceive, conservative Christians tend to believe in Jesus more as a spiritual being than his corporeal, human form.
Concentrating on giving their lives over to Jesus so they can go to Heaven, they tend to appeal to the Old testament, and Pauline dogmas, than Jesus's humanity.
Jesus is important because He is the way, the door His father's kingdom, through which you *must* go to enter the Kingdom of Heaven
I think this combined with the culture of American individualism overrides the sense of communal love that Jesus preached.
When you throw nationalism and the myth of America being God's chosen country into the mix it becomes a really toxic potion.
It amazes me how the values I got from my christian upbringing are: love your neighbour, don't judge people, help others if you can, share what you have if others need it, don't be prejudiced against people who are different, take responsibility for your actions... And some of my peers who went to the same church and school as me are like "if you find them threteing, kill them lmao", "I don't care if you suffer, I suffer too and I'm suffering in the name of god". But even they laught at American christians.
"Don't judge people" he doesn't say don't judge people, he says don't judge people unless you want to be held to the same standards you held them too.
I am a *former* Christian who still believes Jesus Christ is God. The "christian" Right is the primary reason I gave up on organized religion. They would have crucified Jesus (the "christian" Right doesn't like Jews). They perpetually disobey Jesus's command to keep religion and politics *SEPARATE* . The "christian" Right has created a whole LOT of Atheists.
How do you interpret that Jesus commanded the separation of "religion" and "politics"?
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I do not know if/where that is stated in the Bible but conservatives are at war with the founding US principle of separating church and state.
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God chooses kings. Ergo, "You don't have to do anything but trust the person I put in charge."
@@TryssemTavern That would actually state that a ruler's authority is of divine origin. Such a ruler must thus be obeyed for religious reasons. It's the exact opposite.
The American Constitution: Keep religion and politics separate.
Jesus Christ: Keep religion and politics separate.
American Christians: Okay but......
Anyone who has ever met an Evangelical won't find their ignorance about the Sermon on The Mount surprising. What's shocking is that they're willing to admit to their disdain for Jesus.
Well they also dislike education so...they aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the block.
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Okay so I have a new figure for Christianity that can replace Jesus. Instead of Jesus hanging from the cross, it’s Ronald Regan.
or john wayne
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They believe Trump is the second coming.
Nah. Some of them unironically see Trump as the new Jesus. He'll be their new messiah
Y'all already have a corpse for a figurehead, don't need to dig up another one
Mary Magdalene wasn’t a sex worker, she was an incredibly wealthy woman who basically sponsored Jesus and the 12. She was like Jesus’ sugar momma lmao
Yeah, the whole pop cultural misinterpretation of her life is unfortunate.
I'm honestly expecting some grifter to eventually release a "non woke edition" of the Bible.
I'm not even religious but always found the idea of Jesus being compatible with many of today's and history's "Christian" views/values as laughable.
Well at least many so called "Christians" are finally removing the mask and showing the world who they really are.
Look up "Conservative Bible Project".
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All they have to do is remove about 95% of red letter text.
Wait until you find out what He said about marriage 😬
@@alexpinkston8095 was gonna point out the God Bless America Bible but the Conservative Bible Project is far closer to a "non-woke edition"
This is what happens when you feed cult members a diet of hate, hate and more hate.
My grandfather was evangelical and he was the exact opposite of what evangelical is today. I don’t understand how it made such a turn like it did.
Personally I think the question “Do you believe in God?” Has done a lot of damage by making people think that’s the only buy in.
evangelicals take it even further with "salvation through faith alone." they can be utter dogshit "people," but they're "born again in christ," so none of the atrocious things they do matter.
as much as i dislike Catholicism, at least they say "faith without works is dead."
right? what do u mean by god? which god? your god? it gets sooo mucky 😊
Well that's literally the standard for acceptance in Lutherian protestantism; belief alone, not praxis; basically atheism lol. Just so happened that he also hated priests taking bribes to forgive sins; indulgeances.
There is no consistent ideology for conservatism. just a set of overpowered knee jerk reactions.
I can't help but remember a clip from Xavier Renegade Angel about this.
It's interesting that the pastor's response to how to solve this is "we need to have more control over the community and the individual's day to day lives" rather than recognizing that they, themselves, have been preaching authoritarianism this whole time, and their flocks are just following that lesson to leviticus.
So they're not only been heretycal, but also anticonstitutional by USA standards if Im correct
"And they hated him for he spoke The Truth"
When I was younger, the trendy Christian thing was wearing those bracelets with “WWJD” ( What would Jesus do?) …And now, here we are.
It's not a new phenomenon. For example the line "it's easier for a rich man to fit through the eye of a needle than pass through the gates of heaven" has always been contested in the most cynical ways. Some saying the "eye of the needle" was actually a real city gate in Jerusalem that was very busy and difficult to enter no matter ones wealth.
There's a video of Prager talking about "You shall not kill" an that it's actually "not murder". The Mountain Sermon makes it more restrictive.
I remember in school the teacher said it was about spiritual wealth and not about material wealth, which even 11 year old me considered a stretch
@@jochenkraus7016 My Catholic school teachers took the opposite position, telling us that "kill" should be extrapolated to other forms of harm, e.g. hitting, kicking, biting, scratching, etc. They were big on controlling the students via guilt.
I thought the quote was "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
This is why i broke with organized Christianity 2016. You can't claim to believe in X, love X, worship X, then vote Y.
There is not one single Christian group. Stop generalizing.
Dude, this is crazy, I actually knew Lucas Miles!
Lucas went to the same church as my family when I was growing up, he was just under a decade older than me and was good friends with my older sister. He eventually became a youth pastor at that church and he was actually a pretty positive role model for me during my very difficult teenage years and an all-around decent and fun guy. Lucas very much used to be all about the loving and compassionate parts of the Gospel and emphasized the importance of this to the church youth group.
Eventually he went and joined this church franchise called Oasis which was very much about community outreach. He wasn't in my life much after this point, but my sister went to his church and maintained a close friendship with him. As the years went on, however, he started becoming involved with prominent figures in the evangelical community and ultimately joined a Christian entertainment production company. From what I understand, it was around this time where he started to become a lot more fundamentalist.
Then the rise of Trump and MAGA came and he started embracing extremist beliefs, even going as far as to write a book based around the premise that someone cannot be both a Christian and a liberal. This was around the point that my family, who are all fairly conservative (especially my sister, who regularly attends the National Prayer Breakfast) cut off all contact with Lucas. I recall either my dad or brother-in-law saying that one of them would find Bibles left by him in their mailboxes with passages bookmarked and highlighted in response to arguments that they got into on social media.
It genuinely saddens me to see that Lucas has fallen so far that he's now a poster boy for how far American Christianity has strayed from the teachings of Christ. I honestly do think his younger self would be disgusted with what he's become.
Mary Magdelene was not a sex worker. They have conflate several Marys in Jesus' entourage. Mary Magdelene was the daughter of a merchant.
Iirc she was possessed by demons, and was saved. She had shown up more times in the bible than other apostles
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She isn't an apostle; the apostles were the twelve all of whom are named. She was a disciple.
What did Jesus do on the third day after the crucifixion?
He WOKE up!
No, he rose up. And then he ascended to heaven.
Love it!!! What a funny joke.
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Prosperity Gospel is a trip. The justification for worshipping wealth is crazy.
This is not surprising.
Like I said, if Jesus really did come back, the Right Wingers would crucify him in a snap.
US Conservatives then - *God is the one and only*
US Conservatives now - *God is dead because he was Woke*
I've said this before but if Jesus was alive today he would not be some rich man living in a mansion. He would be a guy hanging out with stoners and going to pride festivals.
Jesus Christ is no hippie he would burn everything down for he doesn’t like our wrongdoings. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 KJV
So let me get this straight. You think Jesus would not practice what he himself preached. You believe Jesus would be a hypocrite, someone who he hated? If that's the case then he sacrificed himself for absolutely nothing and your faith is worth less than dirt
@@georgelarie If you don’t believe in Jesus Christ than you will perish?11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:11-16 KJV
Revelation was apocalyptic fiction. It barely made the cut to be in the Bible and the only thing of note is the gamatria of 666 was about a guy named Caesar Nero who questioned the faith. It was meant as a middle finger to him. You are preaching a fairy tale to me like it means anything. Do your research on the Bible you love so much. There's more to it than you think. And it's actually pretty interesting.
@@georgelarie Well Jesus Christ is coming to destroy the wicked men he is coming sooner than you think all the things he said that will come is happening already so get ready for what is about to happen.3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate Matthew 24:3-10 KJV
I guess they eventually had to choose between charity, love and compassion or guns, nationalism and xenophobia.
Looks like they’ve FINALLY decided on their true priorities.
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Thanks!
Yankees think of Jesus as some kind of '80s action movie protagonist.
💯 yes lmao
Jesus would’ve supported trans rights
and sex workers and poor people. bunch of things they don’t like
There's a meme in the trans community that Jesus was a trans man. His only biological parent was Mary, therefore he'd have had XX chromosomes. Yet he went by masculine pronouns and was only ever referred to as a man. There's even a miracle where he undergoes a dramatic change in appearance.
No. Jesus said not one jot or tittle would be removed from the laws. The Hebrew laws were against men and women wearing the opposite clothing. Jesus wasn't really a good dude
good point@@FrozEnbyWolf150
Adam was androgynous. How else could his rib have two X chromosomes?
"To the church of my youth, What did you expect me to do? You taught me to love my neighbors, to model the life of Jesus. To be kind and considerate, and to stand up for the bullied.
You taught me to love people, consider others as more important than myself.
You taught me to sing "red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight."
We sang it together, pressing the volume pedal and leaning our hearts into the chorus. You said that "He loved all the children of the world".
You taught me to love my enemies, to even do good to those who wish for bad things. You taught me to never "hate" anyone and to always find ways to encourage people.
You taught me it's better to give than receive, to be last instead of first. To help the poor, the widow, the stranger at the gate.
You taught me that Jesus looks at what I do for the least-of-these as the true depth of my faith. You taught me to focus on my own sin and not to judge. You taught me to be accepting and forgiving.
So I paid attention. I took in every lesson. And I did what you taught me.
But now, you call me a "libtard". A queer-lover. You call me "woke." A backslider. You call me a heretic. You make fun of my heart. You mock the people I'm trying to help. You say I'm a child of the devil. You call me soft. A snowflake. A socialist. You shun the very people you told me to help.
What did you expect me to do?
I thought you were serious, but apparently not.
You hate nearly all the people I love. You stand against nearly all the things I stand for. I'm trying to see a way forward, but it's hard when I survey all the hurt, harm, and darkness that comes in the wake of your beliefs and presence.
What did you expect me to do?
I'm only doing what you taught me Jesus Christ wanted us to do.
What happened to you??
Its not like they ever listened to the teachings of Jesus anyway. Now they can call Jesus woke.
This is exactly what Jesus teachings warned in Matthew 24:5 about those who come claiming Christ but are deceiving others for their selfish reasons.