Buy both. I did. I use both for paneling... staples around the edge, hidden by trim/molding, and brads in the middle where they are less detectable (as well as for the trim/molding itself).
The crown stapler will still reliably fire 18g nails just like the previous models. They don't advertise the feature because they want to sell a designated tool.
@@juniorleyva7168 hey, good question. If you are asking whether the 1.5" limitation applies to all NC staplers: No - that number is specific to the Ryobi and could be different with each brand - the magazine of the Ryobi NC stapler just isn't long enough to handle any fasteners longer than 1.5". If instead you are asking "can all NC staplers fire brad nails": I can't say that categorically, but I can verify from my experience that it works with the Ryobis, and I've seen it done with Milwaukees & a Worx model as well. Weirdly, I even have a little manual T50 stapler that will also shoot brad nails (up to only 5/8", though). Anyway, a lot of staplers seem to get along surprisingly well with brad nails, but so far i've tended to think of that as a bonus or a backup plan rather than counting on it as my primary nailer. Good luck 👍
I bought a cheap Clarke brad air nailer that fires both brads and staples. Has worked flawlessly, and if you need to be mobile with it (i.e., outside of the workshop) it will operate on a small portable compressor. That's a really useful tool at a fraction of the price of buying 2 electric tools, and the compressor will have many other uses too.
These are item's I never saw myself needing & then coincidentally, yesterday my girlfriend said I need a stapler to hang some patio lights for her. I'm sure she meant a basic manual one but now I'm going to have to look at one of these LoL.
I own both of these and they are great. The air strike tech works amazingly well. I mostly have Milwaukee and makita tools, but ryobi has certain tools that are either just as good, or unique so I have some ryobi stuff too. Love their hot glue gun, and air strike nailers, but I will be getting the m12 pin nailer soon.
what are your thoughts on a combination tool, a stapler that can drive in nails and staples? I've seen a model by "Worx" at the local hardware store that can do 1 1/2" staples and 2" nails
Im wanting to hang some sheets of paneling in my daughter's bedroom but dont know what tool would best suit this task.. ive been told a brad would be good, but then others say no dont use it for paneling, use a crown stapler... what would you recommend? I want something thats not going to be very visable as it will make the wall look bad
If you can pull the trim off when using the nailer, use a longer nail! The stapler leaves a mess even if youre planning to fill and paint the stapler needs driving in further.
1. No. Two different tools. 2. Brads and staples come in a minimum and max length. You’ll want to pick the length that will not go through the other side.
I see this has been a couple of months and I don't know if you found your answer or not. What is shown here is the P360. It is a narrow crown stapler. It shoots 3/8 in. to 1 1/2 in. 18 gauge narrow crown staples. The P360 replaces a pneumatic narrow crown stapler. The P317 uses 1/4 in. to 9/16 in. T50 staples. The P317 replaces those manual staple guns. There are definitely some projects where you could use either the P360 or the P317 but you wouldn't build a cabinet with the P317 and you wouldn't hang a poster or decorations with the P360.
I wanted to ask as I seen Milwaukee do something crazy anyways have personally tried on the narrow stapler gun of ryobi any size of brad nails ? Or it’s impossible , how long have you use both so far any issues or stuck material?
Hi what size round head nails can be used on a Ryobi nailer. im looking to secure decking joist hangers but not sure if the nail will pass through the pre drilled holes
You mentioned about the staple gun having to work alot harder to put I the 2 prongs of the staple vs the 1 of the nail. Friction is the answer and a nail 3x thicker than the staple will have more diamitor than the 2 fine prongs of the staple. Also meterial displacement in the nail is much greater than that of the staples. So the nail is harder to drive not the staple. The holding friction and the driving resistance arnt related do the dimensional differences of the two products
@@livefreeandtoolon non of what I said bud. You can see the nails are thicker than the staples. That's what makes it harder to drive in. Nothing to do with with head or loops holding force due to design. Purely in driving force.
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Buy both. I did. I use both for paneling... staples around the edge, hidden by trim/molding, and brads in the middle where they are less detectable (as well as for the trim/molding itself).
The crown stapler will still reliably fire 18g nails just like the previous models. They don't advertise the feature because they want to sell a designated tool.
This is true, although you're limited to 1.5" max brad nail length with the narrow crown stapler.
@skygreen5939 is that on any staple gun?
@@juniorleyva7168 hey, good question. If you are asking whether the 1.5" limitation applies to all NC staplers: No - that number is specific to the Ryobi and could be different with each brand - the magazine of the Ryobi NC stapler just isn't long enough to handle any fasteners longer than 1.5".
If instead you are asking "can all NC staplers fire brad nails": I can't say that categorically, but I can verify from my experience that it works with the Ryobis, and I've seen it done with Milwaukees & a Worx model as well. Weirdly, I even have a little manual T50 stapler that will also shoot brad nails (up to only 5/8", though).
Anyway, a lot of staplers seem to get along surprisingly well with brad nails, but so far i've tended to think of that as a bonus or a backup plan rather than counting on it as my primary nailer. Good luck 👍
I bought a cheap Clarke brad air nailer that fires both brads and staples. Has worked flawlessly, and if you need to be mobile with it (i.e., outside of the workshop) it will operate on a small portable compressor. That's a really useful tool at a fraction of the price of buying 2 electric tools, and the compressor will have many other uses too.
Firing the nailer at an angle and then another at an opposing angle helps it hold a lot better...
I didn’t nail with such style before, but on my next little projects I’ll be remembering that and should have it a try, thanks for the tip!
Yup..toe nailing on a smaller scale works well. Did 2 projects with tongue and groove paneling. The panels were not warped or cupped to begin with.
I have the 18g Brad nailer it’s awesome. I’ve been told the stapler will drive brads as well as nails.
I have the nailer and love it. I think I need to get the narrow crown stapler to go with it too. Thanks.
These are item's I never saw myself needing & then coincidentally, yesterday my girlfriend said I need a stapler to hang some patio lights for her. I'm sure she meant a basic manual one but now I'm going to have to look at one of these LoL.
They make a battery stapler as well this model in the video would not be good to use on pinning wires just securing wood and other materials
I own both of these and they are great. The air strike tech works amazingly well. I mostly have Milwaukee and makita tools, but ryobi has certain tools that are either just as good, or unique so I have some ryobi stuff too. Love their hot glue gun, and air strike nailers, but I will be getting the m12 pin nailer soon.
@@djjinerson just got the pin nailer love it
@0.33 thank you for showing details.
what are your thoughts on a combination tool, a stapler that can drive in nails and staples?
I've seen a model by "Worx" at the local hardware store that can do 1 1/2" staples and 2" nails
Im wanting to hang some sheets of paneling in my daughter's bedroom but dont know what tool would best suit this task.. ive been told a brad would be good, but then others say no dont use it for paneling, use a crown stapler... what would you recommend? I want something thats not going to be very visable as it will make the wall look bad
Thank you this answered my question almost immediately.
I’m glueing 1/4 inch thick panels. I think the brad nail might work better since I’m just nailing until glue dries
If you can pull the trim off when using the nailer, use a longer nail! The stapler leaves a mess even if youre planning to fill and paint the stapler needs driving in further.
Two questions...
1 - can you fire brad nails using the stapler?
2 - what is thickest timber you could push nails or staples through?
1. No. Two different tools.
2. Brads and staples come in a minimum and max length. You’ll want to pick the length that will not go through the other side.
There are some guns that shoot both. Check the specs of the tool :)
Besides price, what’s the difference between the Ryobi P317 Crown Stapler and the Ryobi crown stapler featured here?
I had the same question as I own the P317. 🤔
I see this has been a couple of months and I don't know if you found your answer or not. What is shown here is the P360. It is a narrow crown stapler. It shoots 3/8 in. to 1 1/2 in. 18 gauge narrow crown staples. The P360 replaces a pneumatic narrow crown stapler. The P317 uses 1/4 in. to 9/16 in. T50 staples. The P317 replaces those manual staple guns. There are definitely some projects where you could use either the P360 or the P317 but you wouldn't build a cabinet with the P317 and you wouldn't hang a poster or decorations with the P360.
So, why didn't you attempt to drive a staple into the 1/2" plywood. Does it not have the power?
The staples holds much strong then nails. I have one use it all the time, on all my projects
This is a very good introduce for tools and thank you very much!
Can the stapler use ArrowT-50 staples?
That was good information thanks..
Ryobi should of just made a 2in1 nailer and stapler
I wanted to ask as I seen Milwaukee do something crazy anyways have personally tried on the narrow stapler gun of ryobi any size of brad nails ? Or it’s impossible , how long have you use both so far any issues or stuck material?
Thank you
Hi what size round head nails can be used on a Ryobi nailer. im looking to secure decking joist hangers but not sure if the nail will pass through the pre drilled holes
You need a framing nailer.
You mentioned about the staple gun having to work alot harder to put I the 2 prongs of the staple vs the 1 of the nail. Friction is the answer and a nail 3x thicker than the staple will have more diamitor than the 2 fine prongs of the staple. Also meterial displacement in the nail is much greater than that of the staples. So the nail is harder to drive not the staple. The holding friction and the driving resistance arnt related do the dimensional differences of the two products
The staples have the gauge just more holding power that’s the point in gauging of the guns
@@livefreeandtoolon non of what I said bud. You can see the nails are thicker than the staples. That's what makes it harder to drive in. Nothing to do with with head or loops holding force due to design. Purely in driving force.
@@lyonscultivars that’s what I said, the surface area of two pins (staples) will create more friction than a single pin such as a typical 18g nailer