The fireman looking helmet is a WW1 steel helmet design. The short cap is called a Kepi. The big vostroyan hat is called a Bearskin. If it's not poofy but tall, it's probably a Shako.
Can't wait for the heavy weapons for these guys. I'm using Adrians on my infantry, Bearskins on my veterans and Shakos on my Officers. I might use the Kepis on my heavy weapon teams, just to make them different.
buy a couple of boxes of these, use only the bearskin hats, combind with Adeptus Mechancius weapons and you got pretty good proxies for Vostroyan Firstborn
To expand Mr Giggles comment; 'Poufy hat' = Bearskin; 'Feather hat' = shako; helmet is an Adrian (WWI & WWII, French) and 'cap' is a kepi, sort post American Civil War era. Really cool and excellent value.
From what I understand the Kepi was of French origin (looks a little different from the American version) and that hat was worn well into ww2, and probably afterwards too, I'm not an expert on French military hats.
Jacob Yin Yeah, French officers wore Kepis well into WW2, and the foreign legion still wear their white Kepi ceremonially. I have to say though the Adrian Helmet is absolutely awesome.
@@martinlaird4738 That they did, although the Kepi itself evolved. French troops in 1870s wore one similar to ACW, the FFL headgear from 1920s on much like US 1950s cap. These technical details don't alter the lovely castings, which I would cheerfully purchase.
I've spent the last day (at the time of this writing) poring over Games Workshop's prices, and comparing them to a bunch of different alternatives. Including Wargames Atlantic, but also sites like Mantic Games and Khurasan Miniatures. In all of these cases, the difference is night and day in terms of prices. A ten-man squad of Cadians of Catachans or Steel Legion costs ~$35 each. Whereas all the sites I mentioned provide products at least on par with GW in terms of providing soldier variety, while giving way more models for less money. Even in the cases where they were selling mono-pose models that didn't have the same customizability, they compared better in value against GW's equivalent product, the $10 squad of five Cadians. Looked way more visually interesting, too, even as far as mono-pose soldiers with rifles go. Another point in the favor of these other companies is they provide options GW seems reluctant to. The video already talks about how Wargaming Atlantic does Steel Legion/Kriegsman more cheaply (and arguably better; the Steel Legion, at least, were mono-pose metal, rather than customizable parts in plastic). What else do these companies provide? Well, if you miss Squats, both Wargaming Atlantic and Mantic Games have you covered with their lines of far future/space dwarves. Not to be outdone, Khurasan Miniatures sells a line of rat/mouse soldier models (in this case, channeling the conflict between Bolsheviks and Royalists in Revolutionary Russia). So they provide us with space Skaven, by way of Steel Legion/Kriegsman. No gas masks, but they've got the trench coats. Makes me want to run an army of intelligent, communist rats leading a red revolution in the bowels of an underhive.
Plenty of comparison shots on our Facebook page and on our site to check out. Actually just a Google search "size comparison Grognard" will sort you right quick
IT'S A BEARSKIN!!! That's the hat for the Vostroyans, not the feathery hat (which is called a shako). Sorry, rather lost control there 😕 The peaked cap would make the historic French Foreign Legion if you add the little flap given on the head sprue too. As you said, lots of possibilities 👍☺
I believe it was the nickname of Napoleon's Old Guard. Les Grognards - the 'Grumblers', cos they were prone to moaning about how tough it was in their day (Oldies never change 😊).
I have to say great review. And add that I own 2 boxes of these guys thats 48 model's to build and I had enough to build a 5 man HQ 3 10 man squads and 6 heavy weapons teams I used the plasma guns as (Heavy Bolters) and it fits the purpose overall 60 bucksplus tax 48 models = instant platoon. Great deal. As he said bases are the issue but you can get 25mm bases from infinity for 5 bucks or 6 us I think you get 24 bases. Or go to Michael's and get wooden bases cheap.
Late to the party but this just showed up in my feed. I picked up some of the WGA Deathfields weapon upgrade sprues for the SMGs and they come with DKoK type helmets. I was thinking of picking up a box of these to make some proxy DKoK, I think they'd look pretty good.
I think not coming with bases is fine. It keeps the price down and they have no idea if your putting them on square or round bases, never mind what size base too.
I got a box of these but haven't painted them yet. But I think they will make for great conscripts in any Imperial Guard army. Conscripts are 20-30 models in a unit, so GW would charge £58-87 for 1 unit of conscripts. Meanwhile one unit of these is just £25. So cheap easy way to fill up your army. I also think that whilst these guy will look different if part of say a Cadian army, thats kind of a good thing. They should be identifiably different to Cadians. Lets you easily tell the difference between your hoard of expendable conscripts and your hoard of slightly less expendable shock troopers. And the customisable options for heads is insane. The Brodie helmets make for good modern soldiers/regiments like Cadians and Krieg. The feather hat options for some more old fashioned troops, like the Ventrillians. The Bearskin heads would fit into a Vostroyan army perfect, the caps into Mordians. They just suit so many of the current regiments.
"grow-niarr" is much closer pronunciation to the word in french. "Lay Grow-Niarr" (the G in "Gn" is a very soft G, like just the end part of it. D at the end is silent and we never pronunce the plural "s") Translates to : The Growlers.
Je confirme! The french "gn" is always pronounced "ni" and we have this strange tendency to never pronounce the last letters of the words. There go the D and the S, so... "Groniar"!
Hi I just found your channel and iv very interested in these some of these alturnive models I've seen. Especially for games work shop models But I was wondering if there was any company you know or would recomed ( eg websights ) of that dose this kind of thing but for like super hero's or costume plastic or resen super hero ask models. I would be be very interested in that
There is absolutely NO excuse for GWs price point anymore. Multiple companies market comparable if not BETTER figs, while at the same time giving you more figs for LESS MONEY.
Games Workshop still make their miniatures in Great Britain, not China. So there's that. Some people are prepared to pay more if it means not supporting the CPC.
Since you mentioned. they're not actually vostroyans, vostroyans are meant to wear Caucasian style "Papakha" hats which are often associated with Cossacks, since Vostroyan lore is heavily based on the Cossacks. Annoyingly lots of people use french Imperial Guard hats like the ones on the sprue which is a lil pet peeve of mine
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Nice video! We are working on heavy weapons to come later this year too
A British style troop variant would be nice too - Redcoat to WWII sort of thing?
@@DarkRaven4561 Check WGA's facebook posts. They're very good at getting back to people and rumor is they're working on space Brits.
@@DarkRaven4561 They're in the works as well!
You guys are just plain cooky!
Thank you these models will really help they are very close to some concepts I drew for my imperial guard army
The fireman looking helmet is a WW1 steel helmet design. The short cap is called a Kepi. The big vostroyan hat is called a Bearskin. If it's not poofy but tall, it's probably a Shako.
Shaako is correct
The helmet is specifically called an Adrian helmet
Can't wait for the heavy weapons for these guys. I'm using Adrians on my infantry, Bearskins on my veterans and Shakos on my Officers. I might use the Kepis on my heavy weapon teams, just to make them different.
buy a couple of boxes of these, use only the bearskin hats, combind with Adeptus Mechancius weapons and you got pretty good proxies for Vostroyan Firstborn
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of trying to save money?
you can buy bearskin heads from plenty of sites
@@ElZilchoYo yeah but resin and bits in general are more expensive and resin isn't always easy to work with.
@@MC-pt8kv Yea bit how much converting are you going to do to a head.
@@ElZilchoYo a lot if it's got bad mold lines or the molds are old or off center.
To expand Mr Giggles comment; 'Poufy hat' = Bearskin; 'Feather hat' = shako; helmet is an Adrian (WWI & WWII, French) and 'cap' is a kepi, sort post American Civil War era. Really cool and excellent value.
From what I understand the Kepi was of French origin (looks a little different from the American version) and that hat was worn well into ww2, and probably afterwards too, I'm not an expert on French military hats.
Jacob Yin Yeah, French officers wore Kepis well into WW2, and the foreign legion still wear their white Kepi ceremonially. I have to say though the Adrian Helmet is absolutely awesome.
@@martinlaird4738 That they did, although the Kepi itself evolved. French troops in 1870s wore one similar to ACW, the FFL headgear from 1920s on much like US 1950s cap. These technical details don't alter the lovely castings, which I would cheerfully purchase.
@@johnbruce4004Yeah, might be able to field Vostroyans someday.
@@jacobyin5320 Absolutely. Would be fine. 'bout time GW supported the single largest force ever created.
Awesome find. These look great and are super cheap compared to GWs !
They are pretty dope I wont lie ;)
@@spikeybitstv They're releasing WWI Germans soon, heads should be compatible with the Grognards if you want to go full-on Krieg-er.
@@penguinsentinel8508 F--- Yeah!
I've spent the last day (at the time of this writing) poring over Games Workshop's prices, and comparing them to a bunch of different alternatives. Including Wargames Atlantic, but also sites like Mantic Games and Khurasan Miniatures.
In all of these cases, the difference is night and day in terms of prices. A ten-man squad of Cadians of Catachans or Steel Legion costs ~$35 each. Whereas all the sites I mentioned provide products at least on par with GW in terms of providing soldier variety, while giving way more models for less money. Even in the cases where they were selling mono-pose models that didn't have the same customizability, they compared better in value against GW's equivalent product, the $10 squad of five Cadians. Looked way more visually interesting, too, even as far as mono-pose soldiers with rifles go.
Another point in the favor of these other companies is they provide options GW seems reluctant to. The video already talks about how Wargaming Atlantic does Steel Legion/Kriegsman more cheaply (and arguably better; the Steel Legion, at least, were mono-pose metal, rather than customizable parts in plastic). What else do these companies provide? Well, if you miss Squats, both Wargaming Atlantic and Mantic Games have you covered with their lines of far future/space dwarves.
Not to be outdone, Khurasan Miniatures sells a line of rat/mouse soldier models (in this case, channeling the conflict between Bolsheviks and Royalists in Revolutionary Russia). So they provide us with space Skaven, by way of Steel Legion/Kriegsman. No gas masks, but they've got the trench coats. Makes me want to run an army of intelligent, communist rats leading a red revolution in the bowels of an underhive.
These do look good. Would like to see next to a GW marine or GW guardsman. I see a lot of possibilities as a “counts as” miniatures.
Plenty of comparison shots on our Facebook page and on our site to check out. Actually just a Google search "size comparison Grognard" will sort you right quick
IT'S A BEARSKIN!!! That's the hat for the Vostroyans, not the feathery hat (which is called a shako).
Sorry, rather lost control there 😕
The peaked cap would make the historic French Foreign Legion if you add the little flap given on the head sprue too.
As you said, lots of possibilities 👍☺
Excellent - I shall be getting some of these when finances become less unstable.
I believe it was the nickname of Napoleon's Old Guard. Les Grognards - the 'Grumblers', cos they were prone to moaning about how tough it was in their day (Oldies never change 😊).
Fun fact: The hats with the long feather at the top are called shakos.
Source: marching band!
you could make some pretty kick-ass Vostonians out of this I believe :)
I have to say great review. And add that I own 2 boxes of these guys thats 48 model's to build and I had enough to build a 5 man HQ 3 10 man squads and 6 heavy weapons teams I used the plasma guns as (Heavy Bolters) and it fits the purpose overall 60 bucksplus tax 48 models = instant platoon. Great deal. As he said bases are the issue but you can get 25mm bases from infinity for 5 bucks or 6 us I think you get 24 bases. Or go to Michael's and get wooden bases cheap.
would use this for death korps army
Late to the party but this just showed up in my feed. I picked up some of the WGA Deathfields weapon upgrade sprues for the SMGs and they come with DKoK type helmets. I was thinking of picking up a box of these to make some proxy DKoK, I think they'd look pretty good.
"The Groaners" or "The Grumblers", in Anglais, IIRC. The only ones who got away with said groaning, IIARC
"Something that tickles your hobby pickle" lol you just got a sub for that one man
"Historicalologist" ha ha quality...
Pretty cool thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I think not coming with bases is fine. It keeps the price down and they have no idea if your putting them on square or round bases, never mind what size base too.
I got a box of these but haven't painted them yet. But I think they will make for great conscripts in any Imperial Guard army. Conscripts are 20-30 models in a unit, so GW would charge £58-87 for 1 unit of conscripts. Meanwhile one unit of these is just £25. So cheap easy way to fill up your army. I also think that whilst these guy will look different if part of say a Cadian army, thats kind of a good thing. They should be identifiably different to Cadians. Lets you easily tell the difference between your hoard of expendable conscripts and your hoard of slightly less expendable shock troopers. And the customisable options for heads is insane. The Brodie helmets make for good modern soldiers/regiments like Cadians and Krieg. The feather hat options for some more old fashioned troops, like the Ventrillians. The Bearskin heads would fit into a Vostroyan army perfect, the caps into Mordians. They just suit so many of the current regiments.
Currently waiting on some Raumjager for my Armageddon. Just needed a few more bodies for my guard.
Love everything but the weapons.
awesome sauce
"grow-niarr" is much closer pronunciation to the word in french. "Lay Grow-Niarr" (the G in "Gn" is a very soft G, like just the end part of it. D at the end is silent and we never pronunce the plural "s") Translates to : The Growlers.
Je confirme! The french "gn" is always pronounced "ni" and we have this strange tendency to never pronounce the last letters of the words. There go the D and the S, so... "Groniar"!
Do you think cadian special weapons would fit on these guys well?
Hi I just found your channel and iv very interested in these some of these alturnive models I've seen. Especially for games work shop models
But I was wondering if there was any company you know or would recomed ( eg websights ) of that dose this kind of thing but for like super hero's or costume plastic or resen super hero ask models.
I would be be very interested in that
Welcome aboard!
At 11:32 the left model is the original GW death corps model?
From forgeworld yes.
There is absolutely NO excuse for GWs price point anymore. Multiple companies market comparable if not BETTER figs, while at the same time giving you more figs for LESS MONEY.
Games Workshop still make their miniatures in Great Britain, not China. So there's that. Some people are prepared to pay more if it means not supporting the CPC.
@@patrikjohansson5939 too bad GW sucks still
Since you mentioned. they're not actually vostroyans, vostroyans are meant to wear Caucasian style "Papakha" hats which are often associated with Cossacks, since Vostroyan lore is heavily based on the Cossacks. Annoyingly lots of people use french Imperial Guard hats like the ones on the sprue which is a lil pet peeve of mine
Pretty sure that Grognards isnt an American phrase...
Cheap and well just cheap and shit .
yes can say it KIT BASH yes a must nest girl guard that what need d see ok ok me bikini girl guard but that me LOL but yes be fun to do got get both you know when of if i get my chek i get em wiil ssse as post new vid hek if do post nun of us can see new stuff yes long jkoe but need it and did say bikini fun see and type