Id argue against doing that. I've been through Neo Palmtree Zone 9 different times, and only twice have I actually been able to reach the goal. Theres a difference between openness and aimlessness, and I feel like Neo Palmtree zone is a lot more quantity than quality, feeling extremely aimless and hard to navigate, there's no sense of direction, and most of everything looks the same, making it feel like you're constantly running in circles. If you want to explore great open world level design, Mario Sunshine is a great source of inspiration, Odyssey as well, and for as messy as Sonic Utopia is, it has a great sense of direction and flow for an open world sandbox demo
@@iampinball3669 From the video alone i could tell the goal wasn't very intuitive, but maybe i think it can be easily fixed. The level doesn't look aimless, just a bit confusing, but again, i didn't play it.
@@Chaos.A Sonic CDs issue was exploration to find the CAPSULES, and other routes, otherwise you could easily bumrush levels. Neo Palmtrees issue is that you're only ever gonna be good at finding other routes, never the actual end
The sonic 3d blast sonic sprites fit so well with the 3d gameplay of this game, and I never thought about that until now. Thanks for making this video.
Can’t say I agree on this one- I genuinely hate the 3D blast sprites, sonic seems so lifeless, like no idle animations, etc, they removed sonic style completely to compensate for the the hardware limitations
@@turnipaitor I can agree on that, his walking animation is what I mostly hate. But I mean who ever made that mod had a good idea. I wish the creator of the 3d blast mod makes the sprite animations better.
@@Stickboy321Go something about how junio worked on the animation the most and never got much credit for it. I think toei just helped produced it?? sorry, I can't remember exactly but it's something along those lines-junio was more involved in the animation than toei was and therefore junio deserves more recognition edit: just saw when your comment was made mb, you probably already know, I'll leave the reply here for others though
Perfection. I wish Sega themselves could come up with something like this, I have no idea how to make anything more than chess or solitaire play on my computer
YO!? That was my vector and charmy port used in the chaotix part! It would've been nice to link the gamebanana page in the description instead of putting the file on mediafire, but still, it's really cool people still care about my port!
I went from never knowing about this game to this easily being my favorite 3D Sonic title. This really goes beyond the word impressive to me, this is legit masterful craftsmanship. Sega is absolutely crazy to not simply buy this and make it official.
They'd be crazy to do so. For a fan project, SRB2 is great, but as a full on professional project, its extremely unpolished. The level design is messy, sometimes confusing. The acceleration and control can get super disorienting, there's a very lacking feeling of weight. It keeps in a lot of its worst ideas, outdated concepts from its previous builds, on tradition alone.
@@iampinball3669 Thats all fair, but they would also be able to fine tune and fix most of those things if they were to do so. In an idealistic world anyway, lol. A game doesn't always have to be perfect to be enjoyed. Fun is fun, even when not entirely polished.
Sega...just hire this team. Thus is and should be your next best mainline game, it’s been around for 15 years and somehow is exactly what the hell the series has needed since
Well, the engine used is worked of the doom engine, which could cause some copyright issues, but guess that could be a positive factor as I genuinely feel this game needs an engine switch, even if it kept the doom like gameplay physics, but sonic just feels rather slippy
Hi Sonic Beyond this is really impressive. Just a couple of questions is this a demo or full game also are you thinking about adding water shields and other shields from sonic 3 and knuckles.
Sonic CD looks so good thats easily my favorite sonic spirte ever those animations are sick and just look increadible but more importantly they look like they belong in that world and they're supposed to look like that
I bet that if Chaotix was more like Encore Mode and prefferably didn't have the rubberband mechanic (which I don't hate, but agree it's kinda shit) just like it is on this mod, it would be more of a hidden gem than it already is. And this mod is awesome! I was surprised when I saw that all 5 were tagging along
When I Got Espio, Vector And Charmy I Added Them Into My Game And Then Turned On BuddyEx/ExBuddy And When I Added Them In It Was Just Their Normal Sprites Even Though My 3D Models Were On Can You Tell Me How To Fix This Problem? I Would Really Appriciate It
I wish someone would make a game about Sonic: Worlds Collide, with a dual story mode where you could either play it Sonic style or Mega Man style. Sonic's story would be in third person, as always, and would play like SRB2 usually does: Reach the end goal by any means necessary. Rings gathered from levels and earned from sub missions (Defeat this many enemies, don't hurt a single enemy, etc.), as well as Miles earned from from running can be used to upgrade sonics moves and abilities. Mega Man's story will consist of him going through locations (Megaman Legends 2 style) in first person mode (Megaman Deathmatch style), fighting enemies room to room and gathering keys for doors in order to reach the boss behind the big lock. Zenny can be used to buy items and Bolts can be used to enhance upgrades (You have to find them during levels or buy them from Dr. Light first.).
@@TheKorenji Well, Worlds Collide is a crossover of Sonic and Mega Man's universe where Eggman and 'Dawkta Waiwee' combined their knowledge and resources to force Sonic's friends to become 'Badnik Masters' (it's an actual comic). I figured if a game was to be made of it, it should have the best gameplay that both universes can offer. I don't know if you were there for it (or found a good emulator to play it), but MML2 was the best years of Mega Man in my life! (That, and MM8.)
I played that Neo Palmtree Panic yesterday (yesterday as of the day before I posted this comment) with Junio Sonic, and was confused as heck of where I needed to go
If you're talking about the map pack, the creator of it got banned because MB's moderation sucks. I don't think you can download it anymore (Workshop is better btw)
![[TAS] Sonic Robo Blast 2 - All Emeralds Adventure Sonic - 18:37.24 (2.2.9)](/img/n.gif)
I wish I could travel back in time and show the Sega Saturn developers this concept and idea.
Yes honestly show them this and sonic utopia
Exactly show them the dreamcast specs Also
Maybe they can cut it in half and
Make a 64 bit cd based system
Instead of the saturn hardware
Making A Game At Saturn Is Harder Than Making A Working Code That Can Show Number In Brainfuck Language
Then they’ll get sued for taking doom’s engine
Yeah me too
The Sonic R styled models for the Chaotix are so freakin' adorable man.
No heavy
@Myles yeah
@@RoBEEFnik they ate him
The Sprites on the CD and Mania levels are amazing! They moved so smoothly I had to remind myself that they weren't actually full 3D models.
Yeah, the sprites are really well made!
JUNIO SONIC SPRITES ARE BAD
@@HeitorMD says ur mom
@@dilig3s Junio Wont Fit, Use Models To Hide That. Also My Mom Liked It
@Heitor Magalhães I honestly have no idea what ur talking about. The sprites look amazing
Neo Palmtree Zone is so open, I'm studying it's level design for inspiration.
Id argue against doing that. I've been through Neo Palmtree Zone 9 different times, and only twice have I actually been able to reach the goal. Theres a difference between openness and aimlessness, and I feel like Neo Palmtree zone is a lot more quantity than quality, feeling extremely aimless and hard to navigate, there's no sense of direction, and most of everything looks the same, making it feel like you're constantly running in circles. If you want to explore great open world level design, Mario Sunshine is a great source of inspiration, Odyssey as well, and for as messy as Sonic Utopia is, it has a great sense of direction and flow for an open world sandbox demo
@@iampinball3669 From the video alone i could tell the goal wasn't very intuitive, but maybe i think it can be easily fixed. The level doesn't look aimless, just a bit confusing, but again, i didn't play it.
@@iampinball3669 at least it's faithful to Sonic CD's level design
@@Chaos.A Sonic CDs issue was exploration to find the CAPSULES, and other routes, otherwise you could easily bumrush levels.
Neo Palmtrees issue is that you're only ever gonna be good at finding other routes, never the actual end
@@Chaos.A in sonic cd it isn’t that hard to find a goal post
Wow I love how sonic cd’s are 2D sprites in a 3D world so it really reminds me of the opening instead of it being fully 3D
Should be called sonic 3d blast. 😆
dat junio sonic tho
@@euvouporess3 I know lol
this is late but the 3d models are a mod, the 2d sprites are vanilla
@@min2793There are actually models built into SRB2 (For the stuff on the game without mods)
The sonic 3d blast sonic sprites fit so well with the 3d gameplay of this game, and I never thought about that until now. Thanks for making this video.
Can’t say I agree on this one- I genuinely hate the 3D blast sprites, sonic seems so lifeless, like no idle animations, etc, they removed sonic style completely to compensate for the the hardware limitations
Also it kinda looks like sonic is waddling and I don’t like it
kinda like he shat himself
@@turnipaitor I can agree on that, his walking animation is what I mostly hate. But I mean who ever made that mod had a good idea. I wish the creator of the 3d blast mod makes the sprite animations better.
Still, its a pretty cool mod and a cool idea.
The CD one with the 2D Toei sonic is literally my dream. I'd love if we got an official game like that!
Ehm, there is. Srb2
@@spider13593 He said an official game
It’s From The Intro Of Sonic CD Not From The Anime Movie.
@Rachel8260Even tho this is 1 year ago, what’s wrong with calling it Toei sonic? Besides toei fits him
@@Stickboy321Go something about how junio worked on the animation the most and never got much credit for it. I think toei just helped produced it?? sorry, I can't remember exactly but it's something along those lines-junio was more involved in the animation than toei was and therefore junio deserves more recognition
edit: just saw when your comment was made mb, you probably already know, I'll leave the reply here for others though
Everybody: Has a normal jump anim
Vector: A-POSE
It looked like the 2.0 version of his jump
The 3D Blast sprite in this kind of game is all kinds of hilarious to look at.
Perfection. I wish Sega themselves could come up with something like this, I have no idea how to make anything more than chess or solitaire play on my computer
4:54
Vector: why You guys are trying to be epic? Be like me!
Lmao
Zoomin' with Zebra Gum
Vector just being Vector
0:07 GOOD LORD THAT WAS A GOOD TRANSITION
I actually REALLY like the way sonic looks in cd, they did that whole toei sonic artstyle and i love it
theres just something so satisfying about watching the chaotix all run around together
3:32 to 3:37 is the perfect transition
The execution of the Chaotix one is really neat.
Sonic roboblast 2 mods are the best ways to breath new life into original games.
I was missing srb2 content, thx, keep up with the good work
Man I love the level design in these, I feel like I would be hours in the same level just to find new paths and new ways to go faster.
Sonic robo-blast 2 is a certified Hood classic in my opinion
There should be a mania level pack with all the sonic mania levels
the fact that junio sonic just fell in the water while amy waiting for him.
I can't believe how good Toei Sonic looks. It's insane
2:03 that's a pretty cool mechanic. A little OP but useful for saving yourself from falls
I like how Toei Sonic has this bullet-dash or whatever from a fangame
The same guy who created the fan game made that JUNIO sonic mod, also the fangame is called sonic freedom
@@spider13593 y’all gotta calm down with that “Toei” and “Junio” bs just let people call it what they want ffs
@Lamda² if we’re gonna get that specific then shouldn’t we call it Eguchi Sonic since he’s the one who crafted the design in the first place?
@Lamda² what implications? I’m not saying we should do it, I’m just pointing out how it doesn’t really matter.
Lmao sonic just ended himself at that first level completion xD
I came here for 8:34 NOSTALGIA!!!
Sonic Mania is 4 years old
I love how he just rocketed off the cliff after finishing palmtree XD
The Sonic CD anime sonic is SO cool!
3:35 ARE YOU READY TO YEETED
Seeing Knuckles with all his buddies doing unique things brings a smile to my face.
YO!? That was my vector and charmy port used in the chaotix part! It would've been nice to link the gamebanana page in the description instead of putting the file on mediafire, but still, it's really cool people still care about my port!
I love this fangame, it's like if there was a Sonic N64 game! It's so well made too!
No not n64 it should be on saturn
While Chaotix itself is a fundamentally flawed game, the botanic base recreation is really cool
That Sonic CD is BEAUTIFUL
I got a sonic speed simulator ad on roblox in palmtree panic
Sonic 3D blast and it's more 3D😮 cool 😎 😅
I'm glad more people are calling mania a classic sonic game
ok, the Sonic CD one looks really dope with the drawn sprites
I went from never knowing about this game to this easily being my favorite 3D Sonic title. This really goes beyond the word impressive to me, this is legit masterful craftsmanship.
Sega is absolutely crazy to not simply buy this and make it official.
They'd be crazy to do so. For a fan project, SRB2 is great, but as a full on professional project, its extremely unpolished.
The level design is messy, sometimes confusing. The acceleration and control can get super disorienting, there's a very lacking feeling of weight. It keeps in a lot of its worst ideas, outdated concepts from its previous builds, on tradition alone.
@@iampinball3669 Thats all fair, but they would also be able to fine tune and fix most of those things if they were to do so. In an idealistic world anyway, lol.
A game doesn't always have to be perfect to be enjoyed. Fun is fun, even when not entirely polished.
3:38 sonic saw Amy and jumped for the hills
Amazing!
Lol um br
lol dois br
Sega...just hire this team. Thus is and should be your next best mainline game, it’s been around for 15 years and somehow is exactly what the hell the series has needed since
Well, the engine used is worked of the doom engine, which could cause some copyright issues, but guess that could be a positive factor as I genuinely feel this game needs an engine switch, even if it kept the doom like gameplay physics, but sonic just feels rather slippy
@@turnipaitor has an engine ever been copyrighted before?
@@TheKorenji If doom developers dont mind i guess
I don't know what it is about the knuckles chaotic one but it's just wholesome.
Omg, that toei sonic looks amazing.
Sonic CD's moveset?? Literally peak platformer
Hi Sonic Beyond this is really impressive. Just a couple of questions is this a demo or full game also are you thinking about adding water shields and other shields from sonic 3 and knuckles.
yes its a full game 👀
he didnt make these. these are mods for a sonic fangame called sonic robo blast 2
"More classic sonic games"
i remember playing sonic mania all the time when i was 6 on my ds , good times
sonic mania was on the DS???????
@@poopyfart89 its a joke about sonic mania being in the thumbnail
@@frokydafroakie ohhh.... Now i want sonic mania on the ds :(
Sonic CD looks so good thats easily my favorite sonic spirte ever those animations are sick and just look increadible but more importantly they look like they belong in that world and they're supposed to look like that
✨✨✨!
Вот что-то такого я и ожидал с Наклз Хаотикс!
Чтобы был такой ремейк!
В Хаотиксах этой зоны вроде нет... Обожаю таких Ютуберов :troll:
I love the 3D blast one cause that’s what the Saturn version shouldve been like but idk why they didn’t use the Saturn ost or the Saturn models
Really impressive work here 🙂
3D Blast Sonic Looks So Silly
If you could show this to someone 25 years ago you'd blow their minds and they'd probably be willing to pay you a billion dollars for this game.
Swapping characters in the mania mod looks cool.
This is actually good I always wanted this game but I already have it
but I wanted the cd model
This was great to watch. Playing it would probably confuse the hell out ofe but this was amazing.
3:31 This is so OP lmaoooo
You're laughing. Sonic just killed himself and you're laughing.
smh, i'm unsubscribing from your channel right now.
Perfect art❤
MIGHTY IS BROKEN enough said
3d blast sonic is isometric in a non isometric game
I'm crying rn because this is the classic 3d sonic game that should've been made on the saturn
I bet that if Chaotix was more like Encore Mode and prefferably didn't have the rubberband mechanic (which I don't hate, but agree it's kinda shit) just like it is on this mod, it would be more of a hidden gem than it already is.
And this mod is awesome! I was surprised when I saw that all 5 were tagging along
Dis is so awesome
Holy guacamole, this is epic
Yes! Vector. Hell yeah!
When I Got Espio, Vector And Charmy I Added Them Into My Game And Then Turned On BuddyEx/ExBuddy And When I Added Them In It Was Just Their Normal Sprites Even Though My 3D Models Were On Can You Tell Me How To Fix This Problem? I Would Really Appriciate It
your game runs soooo smooth...is there an option i should change to stop graphic lag on some maps??
This is the 60fps uncapped version
I wanna see an improvised Crystal Frost Level
I'd play a whole game of this Sonic CD!
This is the better sonic 3D blast
Hey sonic beyond I like sonic 3d blast is the best game cool games u made
And the others sonic adventure with sonic adventure 2 and sonic rivals I like them so much
Way Past Cool Mod
This is beautiful😭😍
I wish someone would make a game about Sonic: Worlds Collide, with a dual story mode where you could either play it Sonic style or Mega Man style.
Sonic's story would be in third person, as always, and would play like SRB2 usually does: Reach the end goal by any means necessary. Rings gathered from levels and earned from sub missions (Defeat this many enemies, don't hurt a single enemy, etc.), as well as Miles earned from from running can be used to upgrade sonics moves and abilities.
Mega Man's story will consist of him going through locations (Megaman Legends 2 style) in first person mode (Megaman Deathmatch style), fighting enemies room to room and gathering keys for doors in order to reach the boss behind the big lock. Zenny can be used to buy items and Bolts can be used to enhance upgrades (You have to find them during levels or buy them from Dr. Light first.).
SRB2 + 1st Person MML? I haven't heard about such an oddly specific combination in a while tbh
@@TheKorenji Well, Worlds Collide is a crossover of Sonic and Mega Man's universe where Eggman and 'Dawkta Waiwee' combined their knowledge and resources to force Sonic's friends to become 'Badnik Masters' (it's an actual comic). I figured if a game was to be made of it, it should have the best gameplay that both universes can offer.
I don't know if you were there for it (or found a good emulator to play it), but MML2 was the best years of Mega Man in my life! (That, and MM8.)
I played that Neo Palmtree Panic yesterday (yesterday as of the day before I posted this comment) with Junio Sonic, and was confused as heck of where I needed to go
What does dimension glaber do? I have it but I'm still cofuses
Ooh the chaotix group cool
the other mods in the thumbnail: It’s me, Sonic the Hedgehog!
Sonic 3D Blast in the thumbnail: snoic
These are amazing.
this is literally the only good 3d hydrocity made by fans.
ive been playing robo blast since 5th grade ive always thought that this game was so cool
Knuckles and Mighty Roll, Espio Spins, and Charmy flies but Vector… vector defies. 4:54
It’s cool that they added the bullet dash from Freedom on CD Sonic lol
8:53 I couldn't find this mod by searching it. Where did you get the files?
If you're talking about the map pack, the creator of it got banned because MB's moderation sucks. I don't think you can download it anymore (Workshop is better btw)
@@midi_feline Workshop?
U are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good at this
Wow the mods are nice
Gameplay good for sonic mania but the camera shift it's what it lacks cause of going up a hole or going down
I'm confused when I use vector and charmy with there 3d models it doesn't work?
dude i have the same problem maybe u can turn to the clasic´s versions whit a command but idk
DUDE I FOUND A WAY
drive.google.com/file/d/15gqWM5i9X-r-g70XdNEZmL1L0-TgDb_H/view
This is there model's
@@Loowa123 oooooooh u epic bro
What that move is where Sonic aims his jump, that makes me think this was the precursor to the Homing Attack.
fun fact: sonic was gonna be in knuckles chaotix but was replaced with mighty idk why
Huh, interesting
I been knowing that
I thick it was cute that had the same sprites
Lol it’s because they weren’t sure if it would sell well, and didn’t want to use Sonic and Tails for that reason.
Tails little doggy paddle is still adorable OML
Sonic beyond, why didn't you take the jeck jims 2.2 model for Espio?
WHERE CAN I PLAY THOSE GAMES?!?
3:37
Sonic Fall LOL
What Are The Links For Each Packs Cuz they are in the description but I don’t know the links for the sonic CD one
DAMN BRO YOU GOT SAGE SHOCKED
Sage The Character Or Sage The Fangame Expo?
7:09 This is what happens when sega or some random guy doesn't release the hd model of the Sonic 3d blast model so people can show it any angle
The Chaotix one is just Me and the Boys
4:54 Vector was standing still while falling.