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- Shooting and showing a really nice replica of the 1861 Enfield Musketoon.
John and I did this video on Father's Day afternoon before John took me out to eat in Nashville. It's kind of a Father's Day video. :-)
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For those wondering the chain holds the nipple protector which protects the nipple on the rifle from damage and is also used for dry firing drills. Hitting the nipple with the hammer when it has no percussion cap to strike can cause significant damage and in some cases shatter the nipple. I use one on my Parker Hale as well.
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Wow, I have several of these original bullets. The Crimean land in the vicinity of Sevastopol is full of these things. In addition to the "echo of the World War II", there often such artifacts of the Crimean war of 1853-1856. In my childhood I find a lot of such bullets and capsule caps.
Sorry for my terrible English.
Really enjoyed this video. I recently purchased an Enfield P61 (largely based on this video). May I say that I really appreciate the fact that you highlight the danger of not being distracted while loading a gun and how you go on to safely correct the matter. It can happen to anyone and this serves as a good reminder. Again cheers (thanks) for the work you put in.
I have this same gun, I got one a few years back and I shot competition in black powder matches and I took a whitetail doe at about 100 yards offhand with it the first season I owned it. Got her with a .577 Minie ball and she dropped dead where I hit her. Best muzzleloader I have ever owned.
Bayan1905 what size charge you use? I would like to buy one for deer hunting too!
You need to get your hands on a Blunderbuss... Im not sure if you already did or not, but that would be sweet.
+Amy-Lee Angel My uncle had one and that dutch girl could sing he only fired it twice a year once for food the other for celebration.
I love history and firearms! hickok45 my history teacher was like you very educational and brought into my life an experience and understanding of history and firearms! Getting old i sometimes mix up some information and i don't know it all or remember. But your videos truely are a gift of your knowledge and a reminder of our history! Thank you. Video reminded me of in the heat of battle soldiers double loaded and mis loaded.THX Grats on retirement. You inspired so many!
Soldiers used these for days on end. Round after round. I think if they tended to spark after firing it would be more strongly documented. I've never had an issue with it and none of my family has mentioned it either.
Enjoyed it.
I actually stopped and replayed before you fired the one without the bullet.
I just love the sound of you walking around and listening to all the casings jingle under your feet.
"Man, this was pretty cool"
*Starts up Empire: Total War*
For real though, I literally have done it like three times this past week
This is the standard line infantry gun for Fall of the Samurai
@@Nodnarberofor the Shogun faction?
@@rc59191 for all
I heard you talking about a cook off. When powder can ignite while pouring in the gun. The best safety tip I learned while re-enacting was leave the used cap on the nipple while reloading. That way no air can get into the breech .
Love your channel
I've had one over30years and still love it
The were often called ""the artillery carbine"
As they were issued for use in artillery trenches
Greetings from OZ
John
Thanks. I really like that little firearm. I need to get it out again and give it a work out.
I thoroughly appreciate the in-depth detail to history that is always shared here. These are so much more than informative but, enjoyably fun to watch as well.
Greetings from Birmingham, UK. One of my teachers used to work in the enfeild factory aswell!
Thank u,I'm 58 and have heard of them all my life. But never seen one till now !! Thanks again,
My guess is that the basic reason these were issued to artillery and cavalry (and not infantry) was because infantry tactics of the day called for firing in double ranks. If in the front rank you don't want the guy behind you to have a short barreled gun. Of course another consideration for infantry would be that a longer barrel you be an advantage for bayonet fighting.
I love watching how fast your foliage comes in at the range from early spring till early summer. I watch all your vid's so I can tell each week it gets greener and greener till it's all full green..
I metal detect in Tennessee and the .577 Enfield minie's I dig up are smooth sided, with no rings. They used a wooden plug in the bullets base to expand during firing.
Interesting...checking now if reenacters have them...very cool.
Yes, it's called a ball puller. You attach it to the end of your rammer, twist it so the screw at the end, goes into the lead and you pull it out.
my uncle used to work at royal small arms in the 80's when they were working on the sa80.
1780s, 1880s? Must be an old fella now...
@@brandonbentley8532 haha indeed could be 1680s who knows
That makes sense. I think some people do it regularly, though.
A lesson on firearms and history all in one. Love it
I am a big fan of ML and still use them today. I am 55 years old and my father bought for me a 58 cal. rifled musket to learn on as a 9 year old. You learn to aim when it takes a minute to reload instead of just pulling the trigger again. My favorite now is a smooth bore 69 cal. flintlock musket and I shoot both round ball and shot for rabbit season.
My Enfields use the .575s. They fit fine.
Re. whether made in England or Italy, the proof marks should tell the tale.
BTW I found one of these in a used gun rack back around 1990. Snapped it up immediately (don't remember what I paid for it). I shot it several times, and it always hit well to the left. A close examination showed the barrel was turned onto the breech plug just a few degrees too far, so the sights were offset- didn't stand vertically. Surprising that it passed inspection. Anyway, I sold it and never looked back. Good luck with yours!
It goes to the bottom. I don't know of anybody who uses a funnel and large tube. It would have a hard time sticking to the side of the barrel when the bullet is shoved down the barrel. :-)
They shoot those (Snider Enfield breech loaders from the 1860s) every day in the summer at Fort Henry in Kingston Ontario (used to work there), and they literally have full crates of never-used ones left over from the British troops who garrisoned the place.
Halarious, "You dont want to put the ball before the powder, i'll let you think about that one." lol
Apparently that happened a few times during the American Civil War. Troops would get so freaked out they would get the loading sequence wrong.
@@twistedyogert cant you just fire the ball out with the primer? or unscrew the nipples on the field real quick?
@@jemarcatubig3171 Probably.
I can remember as a young boy shooting muzzleloaders.
My dad belong to a club called Bakersfield muzzleloaders.
1 day a month we would go to a shoot and a couple of times a year we would go to rendezvous in the mountains one of these rendevouz was called Peter Lebec.
My first rifle was a 45cal Kentucky replica. But that rifle was taller than me at that time.
Then my father bought a Thompson Center Seneca in 36 caliber.
By far though my favorite rifle was a Zouave Musket 58cal.
At that time common practice was that after the shot was fired you put your mouth to the muzzle and blue until no smoke came out of the nipple.
I remember and some what miss those times this was before computers TV had local channels and as a child after homework I would stay outside and play. Baseball in the street in the summer, football on the grass area on the side of the house in winter, with a healthy dose of Army and cowboys and Indians with cap guns. ( Don't tell my mom but sometimes we used BB guns )
I believe that this is part of the problem we have with youth today I no longer see children outside playing after school and the only ones I see on bicycles anymore are homeless and thugs scouting out neighborhoods.
One last thing I can remember loading a couple of times without powder.
On one of your videos why don't you show how to clear this human malfunction.
My dad and other that were shooting on the Range that this would happen with when usually remove the nipple and get a small amount of FFFg or FFFFg powder and try to pour it through the opening then replace the nipple then cap and Fire. Most of the time this would removed the obstruction.
Hick, you nailed it!!! Nailed it with, "There's nothin' like the smell of real black powder, morning or afternoon." Hahahaha....
Had one of these (Parker Hale), but the musket, not the musketoon. Brilliant rifle and very, very accurate. Used a load of 65gns by volume FFg. Commercially produced mini balls weren't available here and had to cast.......
Sadly is was stolen, along with my 75cal Brown Bess, 45cal Kentucky, 303 smle and brno mod 1 22LR. dammit....
Pilot McBride Ouch! That must have hurt: a good collection. Are those difficult to get hold of?
Sam Russell Bloody near killed me Sam. I was in hospital and my wife & kids were with me when my gun safe was destroyed, Man they made a mess of it! The Kentucky 45 (Flint) was so accurate at 100yds, it wasn't funny and the Brno was a family heirloom, bought when they first came out as our primary rabbit rifle in the 1950s. Police couldn't do a thing, but the perp was badly beaten a couple of months later. The rifles were all in very good, almost perfect condition, to this day, my marks should still be on them so still on the look out. The Parker Hale was a most magnificent, accurate rifle.
Damn shame: especially when one of them had been passed down. I hope you get lucky (and they get VERY unlucky).
If it's any consulation, I'm sure there's a lot of regulars to this site who not only feel your pain, but will be prepared to keep their eyes open as well.
Sam Russell Haven't given up the search Sam..
Pilot McBride That's sad!..
Oh Perfect! I always wanted one of these. My friend gave me a Parker Hale catalog in about 1976 and that was where I got started with firearms, this was the thing that caught my imagination. Great to see it shooting, now I need to find one.
Imagine trying to do all that when someone's firing at you. Civil War must have sucked.
Artiz Naam in the civil war if they didn’t have time to reload they would just pullout there revolver or charge forward using the baton they usually had on the front of there musket
jake jones that is true but it wasn’t always line warfare, a small portion was close ranged
Bayonet charges were a major part of warfare from 1700-1880
@@DucdeOrlean Weren't many casualties in the civil war due to bayonet wounds they were about as common as they were in WWII
Hickock Is loading components by separate, back on the civil war they used paper cartridges!
A paper cylinder with powder and a bullet, so you would open It, pour the powder and then put the cartridge in!
This video sparked something in me, never really had that much of an interest in black powder before, but I've been on the muzzle loading forums for hours now. I want one!
Not sure, but the chances for some of that could be increased when a person is firing just "blanks." There's probably a different dynamic with the powder charge and how efficiently it burns when there's a four or five hundred grain chunk of lead over it adding exponentially to the pressure of the burn. Just guessing, of course. It's been years since I completed my Ph.D in Chemistry at Harvard. :-)
Thanks Hickok never knew one existed
I can't imagine the wounds those 400+ grain mini-ball's inflicted
I have a .50 cal muzzle-loader that my father likes to use to hunt deer (when i'm not target shooting with it).
We typically lubricate a patch and use round ball ammunition for target shooting. For hunting we use Maxi-balls (without a patch) which have a flat bottom so there's no need to lubricate the underside or worry about powder becoming damp from the grease.
As for your choice of ammo, we call them "Mini-balls" where I'm from, but it's not wrong to call it a "Mini-bullet".
I was yelling "You forgot the ball!" when I noticed. Glad you figured it out though.
When I was 12 in shot my first buck with a tompson center and got so excited I put the bullet in before the powder. What a pain my father had to get an extractor. Good times buck fever is great
Beautiful piece of weaponry. I've always been very fond of old muzzleloaders! Much more so than more modern guns (except 1914-1945 of course: K98, Springfield 1903, MG34, P38 and so forth)
I believe smokeless powder came about in the mid 1880s, as the 1886 French lebel rifle used a smokeless powder cartridge, but it didn't really become common until the 1890s
Yes, it is. It's the Hunter's Pal that I bought in 1974.
Fascinating info! Thanks (10 years later).
Nice shooting. I have the same gun SN# 9901. Its a great shooter. I have never tried long range, yet. I use an original PH Bullet mold. Thanks
6716 here
I love this gun, I have one and competed with it in blackpowder musket matches. I won a silver medal at 100 yards offhand with a .577 Minie ball. I also dropped a nice whitetail doe at about 100 yards offhand with mine, same minie balls and 55 grains of Triple 7. Mine was a EuroArms replica, but a wonderful gun. One of the most accurate muzzleloaders I ever owned. Fifty yards benched and a five shot group was 1-inch.
I read a book about the post-apocalypse called "God caliber 58 ," there we are talking about a young man named Def who was armed with just such Enfield )
Fantastic video on a true classic firearm! To show the history and evolution is a wonderful thing. I love my classic old milsurp rifles and thoroughly enjoy shooting them, especially the K31. But this video brings the classics to a different level to me. I never have the old muzzle loaders a chance until I've seen the fun and history they bring. Thank you sir for enlightening me once again. I appreciate all that you do.
i would love to see a video on the sharpes rifle!
Thank you hickok45 for not making crap videos like 99% of the rest of TH-cam.
The chain has a cap on the end so when not firing you put the cap on top of the nipple where the firing cap goes
I was wondering what that was for
It's always a good idea to reseat the ball or bullet with your ramrod to make sure it's firmly in place, but you only need to do that if the gun was put away loaded. I always shoot mine right after they're loaded though.
A favorite arm of the Confederate cavalry and artillery. Many were used right up until the end of the Civil War.
Nice replica. I had the 3 band from when it was made in England. It was an incredibly accurate rifle. I could do 4 inch group at 100 yards offhand. Keep in mind 5 shots touching was over 2 inch.
How do you get the bullet out if you forgott to put powder in?
+loch70 I have a fitting that screws into the nipple port and blast the bullet out with compressed air. In the field a bit a powder down the vent is often enough to discharge the ball....I've actually seen the ball pop out about 5 feet.
my ramrod has a drew attachment for pulling bullets.
I have been an avid black powder enthusiast for many years. I have seen powder ignited by embers in the barrel exactly twice. Both times it occured in large bore smoothbore shotguns shooting single F powder. It happened during fast and furious reloading action during clay pigeon shoots. I think that the combination of paper wadding, extreme fouling and large grain powder were to blame. It is also not at all uncommon with black powder cannons, hence the need for wet swabbing of the bore.
Birmingham = Ber-ming-um
Worcester = Wus-ter
Leicester = Les-ter
;)
Tom Rhodes And I raise you one Happisburgh!
Tom Rhodes I'm from Massachusetts and all those are correct but Worcester is wooster .
Amazing who many English speaking people can't speak English, even in England, LOL 😉
Man, for someone who hates france, you English sure love their trend of writing a whole bunch of letters you don't even get to pronounce
Nougat Star !!!
I have searched for that exact gun for a while. To me its the perfect muzzle loading hunter. Short, handy etc. congrats on a great find.
10:17
ROFL!!!
There's quite a few variants of modern muzzle loaders for hunting and target shooting. For example the 'Inline' models.
Brits don't say the h in Birmingham, it's Birming'am! :-)
Buhr-me-gum :P
And Brits add letters to other words, aluminum comes to mind or as they say aluminium.
Ah-lu-mini-um
or
Al-u-min-yum
Ben Pritchard Sorry for the late response. but everyone else in the world uses aluminium since thats the correct term. the US decided to start saying Aluminum and that just stuck on.
Sorry, I don't speak british
Thanks for this video. I think this one might be my favorite, as I knew nothing about muzzle loaders prior to watching it. It was very nice to hear a little of the history of the reproductions, how they are loaded, and some of the safety considerations.
6:20- "gotiem"
The piece hanging down is a nipple protector. When the rifle is stored, the nipple protector is placed over the nipple to protect it and the hammer from damage. They used to be made out of lead, now they're made of lead-free pewter. They also used to have a rubber or leather insert, but the modern ones don't.
only good thing to come out of birmingham
Conor Hopwood Of course the best sight of Birmingham is in the rear mirror!
Conor Hopwood Id say the M82 & M85 sniper rifles too.
What about Richard Hammond?
I have a couple of nice Buttons from Birmingham so maybe they had two good things that came from there! LOL ;-)
Judas Priest?
I've had a couple different black powder rifles and even a black powder pistol. The only black powder rifle that I currently own is a Lyman Great Plains rifle in .58 caliber. I really like your 1861 Enfield Musketoon. I did a short search on them, I'm sorry but I have not yet checked Bud's, so far I have not found one. I really like your video on the Musketoon. I, like you, prefer often the older style guns. Lever actions and SAA's make me pay attention quickly. My favorite deer rifle is a Big Bore Winchester in .307 WIN. I know I've shot at least more than twenty deer with it and now my wife has claimed that rifle for deer hunting. One year she filled all three of her deer tags, one buck and two does, from the same herd with one shot to each deer. I only gave her three cartridges because I know my wife, she'll keep shooting till she fills my tags also.
i watched 7 seconds of this guy for the first time and i already love him
I've got a Parker Hale enfield no1 mark3* manufactured in 1917 and it still shoots 3inch groups off hand at 100yards. They make fine rifles.
Hi again, Hickok45! I have the exact same model, and it is a pleasure to shoot and enjoy the fragrance of Black Powder! I also have to confess, as a TRUE Black Powder shooter, that I have (once!) sent my ramrod downrange unintentionally!! It was retrieved in perfect condition, although I do not condone this procedure. Thanks for the video!
Me too. I ve been firing these old arms for a w h i l e . I ve not ever had an issue with 'embers' or whatever. I always load from a flask and so on. I pretty much op/maint my arms just as they did back in the day.
The Dragoons from the 30s and 40s called their Musketoon, 'Musketoons'.
Living the dream you are! I have this rifle too I'm a civil war Reenactor and love it too 3 band though
Color me green with envy! The closest I ever got to that was shooting skeet with a 20ga shotgun behind the cafeteria as part of my hunter's safety course. Our entire 6th grade class took the course during school hours, 3 days' worth. That was barely 20 years ago, but we'd all be expelled & arrested for that now!
That British made rifle is very nice, but I did like the tiger striped stock on the Italian made rifle. I do agree with you wholeheartedly about the ease of musket caps. They are much easier, with those nice tabs, for large hands.
PS. I thought you did a great job of running a muzzle loader while giving history instruction and explanation. I very much respect your showing viewers everything, especially a misstep, and how to avoid a mishap.
You have, and will continue I hope, been a most excellent ambassador for the shooting world.
Awesome seeing a muzzle loading vid from hickok, and wow those bullets went in that barrel easy
That is the most beautiful rifle I've ever seen
btw .45 cal muzzleloaders are great for bushcrafting and excellent for squirrel(10-15grs of goex) and hare(30grs of goex)
Thank you for destroying those vile looking softdrinks! The 2 band rifle is a genuine parker hale for sure. The serial no. gives it away.
Nice video Hickock, I'm from England and when I used to shoot BP those .58s were very popular I still have an old can of Parker Hale gun oil, thanks for bringing back the memory's of shooting them :)
I think it's mostly related to 90 degrees and 95% humidity. Get ready for it; it's summer! :-)
Great demonstration on the 1861 Enfield Musket.
Dixie has one on the rack for $925. Right now. I saw it in their catalog for $1150. I inquired about the musketoon because I want one , and Dixie said our stock girl hasn’t been here in a year and the $925 price tag would be adjusted at the cash register. Whaaaat ?? Pricey, but it’s 7 pounds. If you have been shooting 10 pound muskets , it feels light and right. Thank you 🙏
Originally marketed by Navy Arms (Val Forgett Sr) formerly of Ridgefield, NJ - my dad used to take me there when I was a kid...Most likely made by Uberti Aldo Uberti and Forgett Sr teamed up in the 60s to manufacture and import replica BP Firearms..Navy Arms left NJ because of its draconian anti-gun and gun owner laws - moved to West Va. as Gibbs a number of years ago.
CB in FL
I use Bore Butter a lot with muzzle loaders.. I just load the patch with butter, and start the ball.. really bore butter help season the barrel, make cleaning easier.. more often you use it, more shots between swabbing.. rifle is handy when heavy.. just for clobbering close enemies
Thank you, a great look into the history of shooting.
If you lube the base use an over powder wad. Can be made of fibre, cardboard, etc. as long as it’s .577. Commercially available from multiple sources. The correct charge is 60 gr of BP 2f or 3f. Much more is a waste of powder.
That last watermelon was crazy. Can you imagine the scene of a hundreds of men standing in a line shooting giant hunks of lead at each other.
A well placed shot via the .58 caliber Minie-Ball fired from any Springfield or Enfield
rifle-musket or musketoon would no doubt drop a deer, elk, caribou, or moose clear
out to 200 yards! What a way to put fresh venison and fresh meat inside the family
freezer. ----James A. "Jim" Farmer
My first gun was black powder revolver and I used to love shooting it. I guess you can call black powder guns "gateway" firearms. Thanks for the vid.
Water down the barrel evokes that scene from 'Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid" with Steve Martin washing his revolver in the sink.
sweet, love these old firearms
What does it look like? I took pictures when I had the barrel off. There are lots of markings underneath the barrel near the chamber.
One of your best! More black powder firearm talk-n-shoots. Thanks H45!
I started shooting with a 1851 confederate colt navy black powder revolver, my 1st ever gun I owned, I love it, it's the most fun gun I have ever shoot.
Musketoons were for Artillery, Engineers/Pioneers and Train.
They were fitted with Infantry Sling Bands.
Carbines ( for Cavalry) had no sling swivels, but a side sling bar and ring, for a Cavalry/Dragoons cross shoulder sash sling with hook.
The French used the Term "Mousqueton" and " Carabine" to distinguish the format;
It carried over to the term " Carabineers"
Used in various Romance languages for Mounted troops ( usually in a Police function).
Another point, the Enfields in general were loaded with Rolled Paper or Linen cartridges...hence the possibility of smouldering embers. The cartridge was also greased, to take the fouling with it on firing. Also a lot faster and safer to load.
Otherwise a good explanatory video.
DocAV
NICE! Hickok45, with the 150th anniversy of the Battle of Gettysburg coming up in a few days, I'd to see more Civil War era firearms (or well-made replicas of them). Perhaps something we reall haven't seen from you yet? It can be something simple like a Sharps, something cool but obscure like a LeMat reproduction (probably from Pietta), or maybe even some reproduction of the post-war Evans "lever gun" with its "34-round high capacity tubular assault clipozine".
He answered that in the vid. Yes they have rifling in the reproduction models. Some, faster twist than others. 1:7 fast twist, 1:14 slower twist, in modern firearms. Muzzleloaders are like 1:28 to 1:40 twist rates I think.
Twist rate is, in 1 revolution of twist, how many inches of the barrel does it take to make the 360 degree groove.
Very cool, a model of historical military significance. I enjoyed this very much.
great timing on this video I am currently studying muzzle loaders in my gun smithing course. Keep up the good work.
There is a tool for extracting bullets from black powder rifles, it is basically a cleaning rod with a drill bit end. It drills into the soft metal of the round and then can be pulled from the barrel.
its crazy that its been 5 years since i subbed, time flies hickok love the vids always have,god bless
I really enjoyed this video, it's a good change of pace. I guess my only complaint is that it wasn't long enough, I could have watched twice as much! And it was educational for me as well because I'm really not familiar with muzzle loading. Thanks Hickok!
I so love this video. my first years of shooting were black powder. I had a replica colt walker and a replica 1851 navy. Maybe for future muzzle loading videos you could change Hickok45 to Halfcock45