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- Karan Thapar speaks to former Pakistani ambassador to the US and well-known academic scholar Husain Haqqani about his new book 'Reimagining Pakistan: Transforming a Dysfunctional Nuclear State'.
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Thanku Hussein Haqqani sir for enhancing my knowledge.
@IamDon9999 Correct! He is inaccurate on a number of other facts too! He seems to be holding an anti-zia perspective and keep blaming zia for everything that ever happened in Pak. Overall, not a great analyst
Great interview. Pleasure to hear educated civilized people from both sides of the border.
This is a humiliation to both India and Pak! India has far more educated intellectuals than this fool. As far as Pak is concerned, nobody can beat Tarek Fatah and Barrister Hamid Bashani
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I think this is the best Interviews till today ......Learnt a lot of things from the interview.
Thanks Team Wire.
That's the power of Indian Constitution that we r still unit.......Great work by Dr.B.R.Ambedkar.......
All hail to Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar. Real hero and a great personality of it's time.
Dr Ambedkar was real 🦁! He kicked Nehru Ass badly. Pandit Ambedkar not Neharu.
@sankaet nagrale While it is a good document, I want to mention a caveat. Learned Hand, a famous America judge, rightly said, "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it." For all the merits of the Indian constitution, it will be rendered meaningless if the people don't upload its principles. Take the recent happenings in Kashmir. Rounding up people based on political notions and holding them hostage is a clear violation of Article 21. Yet the Supreme Court sat silent. So that sets a precent. Every failure to do the right thing only corrupts the system more. Which is why India, despite having reasonably sound laws, languishes in more respects than one. We can beat our chests about being better than Pakistan, but the truth remains that we are ourselves dysfunctional in so many ways.
that is the true Tejas mallela which our nation should consider we should only be relegious to our constitution, which is a true relegion.Otherwise, it will be disaster for our country,which have pluralism,diversity.
We should always have ANEKTA ME EKTA BHART KI VISHESTA.
@@umesh9809 kya bol raha hai be
"A daily newspaper is the first draft of history." A gem for any would-be historian. This man is a treasure.
@mark vaz "First draft" is nicely put.
Best quote" unlike other countries which raise an army to match/counter a threat, Pakistan inherited an army and then raised a threat to match it" :-)
so very true !
I am a BJP voter(fully support Modi Ji)... but I fully agree with Mr Haqqani that... while the present generation of Politicians may open this Pandora's box of religious-politics... thinking that they can "manage" it... the future generation may NOT be able to manage it as it will spiral out of control & everyone would become hostage to it.
It's treat to ears to listen Hussain Haqqani sahab
Sonu Yadav just by having a FAKE ACCOUNT and INDIAN NAME wont do you guys a big deal. Carry on with this and others like you
White Wolf dude atleast I have a name but you don't even have guts to have a name. By the way, does it matter if I'm an Indian or not. Mr. Haqqani speaks truth and that's matter
@IamDon9999 even Pathans in I Dia dominate ...they are such great people.....and yeah..I have faced no problems with Pathans...they are a gem of people
Its a formidable narrative "raise the army to match the threat, whereas Pak army raised the threat to match with." A very nice and conclusive statement by Mr. Haqqani.
It may sound nice but it is not correct. The reasons Army became dominant in Paksitan are 1. The inability of the civilians in power post-independence to form a constitution. They were mostly from areas left behind in India. They feared democracy. 2. Pakistan felt very insecure. The massacre of Muslims which took place in Punjab immediately after partition and the arrival of "death trains", and the 1948 Kashmir war were instrumental in driving Pakistan towards becoming a security state rather than a welfare state.
@@shahbazkhan2428 First point is correct. The founders of Pak were not leaders and never fought for freedom or common man. The second point is totally incorrect - the people who died were Hindus & Sikhs coming from Pak Punjab. The killings were initiated by Jinnah and Liaquat to make Pak the land of "pure". The "death trains" had notices stuck that said "gifts to Gandhi & Nehru"!
This is lesson for us.... What NOT to do. Thankfully India took different route and hence we are functional democracy but somehow recently there are attempts to undo this.
We must learn from Pakistan and not to impose this unification and fake hate filled nationalism or use religion for political benefits. We have chosen wisely when we were vulnerable let’s not ruin it now when we have seen the effect where it will lead us.
Proud of India and our forefather for choosing the right path.
@IamDon9999 Pakistan broke soviet USSR
Damn son I have heard of delusion & you've crossed all levels of that
Do you even know why soviet union failed ?
You think Indians didn't have shoes to wear till 80s & then all of a sudden transcended into being the fastest growing economy 😂😂😂😂
Stop taking those Afghani hafeems & come out of your delusion
@IamDon9999 no one has ever pulled a rickshaw in Pakistan 😂
I actually pity on someone like you whos far off from ground realities
What's next ? You'll say Pakistans economy isn't in a mess & you're not borrowing from the super powers for survival
Your community take dictation from loudspeakers of masjid.
@IamDon9999: interesting thoughts! But what makes you say that poor of India is in a worse situation than that of Pakistan?
@IamDon9999 you are generalizing. How can you say the Indian Muslims have no ethnic background and Pakistani Muslims do? Remember, it was the same people who crossed the border to be in their chosen country.. just because someone chose to move or stay back in India, doesn't mean they are any lesser Muslims than you believe Pakistanis to be.. and ethnicity is defined by region, rather than religion.. I and my neighbour could follow different religions but would share the same cultural values
Karan thapar give question and answers at the same time. Every answer of Haqqani starts with the word 'absolutely'.
Mr. Haqqani's eloquence and being precise and razor sharp in answering questions without repeating himself, is always a treat to watch and hear. Unlike Shashi tharoor, there is no show off of linguistic skills with unnecessary exhibition of vocabulary but at the same time right usage of words to convey the points clearly and concisely.
Good luck to you sir and India should seriously consider residency to such an decent intellectual if he requests for one here.
Thapar's questions are longer than Haqqani's answers 😜
That's good actually, he first quote from the book and also put the same in simple words
But even his questions are insightful
Bcz he read his book and mostly he is quoting
Shows who is the intellectual between the two
I am pakistani and i support this guy over pakistan views.
You lot are basically the baggage carriers of Islam
The dalits
@@robertmitchell8630 and what are you ?
Waste of oxygen 😂😂😂
I feel pity for u
Well said man: hope for good
Iqrar Ali
Share this video as many as your friends
We all need peace not the war.
thank you Hussain Haqani for imparting some new ideas in pakistani society to realign itself a vibrant democratic society with the rule of law..
What a refreshing conversation - Karan is a class. Haqqani is deep thinker - first time I learnt about Pakistan devoid of sentiments
Karan is a "class"? Really? Haqqani is a deep thinker? - probably in comparison with the uneducated mullahs of Pak. The best thinkers of Pak are Tarek Fatah and Barrister Hamid Bashani. Nobody can beat them
Jinnah's failure was the false idea of a homogeneity of Islam in an extremely diverse subcontinent where people preferred their ethnicity over their religion.
Irony is Jinnah 's family is Hindu
Exactly right bro . We South Asian have plural diverse identities
No Jinnah was not Hindu .He was khojah Muslim- a Shia .
@@maheshhhhh852 his family, his dad was Hindu mum was Parsi
No bro check your facts
It's always awesome to hear you Dr haqqani. Hope this interview and your book pumps in some sense in the religious fanatics of both your and my country and belonging to every religion.
@IamDon9999 impartial info.
Mullahs are not going change because of these interviews! They cannot spare their precious time on talking about peace!
At least Karan Thapar should have offered him a glass of water during the interview. He was clearly struggling due to cough. That's basic ethics.
thapar don't have any basic ethics he is a communist cockroach.
I think you mean basic etiquette
@@kumarkrishnan2327 he has Learned his lesson from modi... don't give a glass of water.
theres plenty of edits ! he would have had a lot of water in between
@@karanbirsinghbhullar 😂 dosti bani rahe 😂
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I am a hardcore bjp supporter but i think our mass population is going towards pakistan idea. I have seen people say 'let it be unconstitutional to achive something'
Same here. I would say I WAS.
It was while listening to Javed Akhtar and Hassan Nissar that I observed this. Akhtar said we have a very good example next door of what happens with excessive religion.
@@m5097 yeah religion extremity is not good at all but we can't ignore history we have been divided because of one religion now we have Kashmir issue...even read the history of iran....they want secularism untill they are in minority....i have not seen any single secular Islamic country yet.
@@pandababy175 the sole point is everything should be constitutional
@john smith incompletely support abrogation of 370/triple talaq and ucc but my point was we as a nation are moving more towards religious identity than being democratic which is root of idea of pakistan
@john smith i know hinduism is not a religion but a way of life but i have seen people's thoughts getting extrimist, i am not saying becaise of bjp this is obviously a reaction what we have faced but modi not speaking openly about it is what makes me worried
I proud to be an Indian ....who managed to make its constitution.. within two years which is still ...
suraj bora now its blowimg out by bjp
The Indian constitution started being formulated as early as 1937, it didn't happen suddenly. Its the exact reason why Pakistan didn't have a constitution after independence in the first place
@king spartann what is wrong with that???
@king spartann fuck you bitch
It's a fantastic experience to watch your interview Mr. Karan Thapar. A very thought-provoking session without Pak-bashing. Of course, as stated by Haqqani, Pakistan has to reimagine itself else it will be disastrous not only for that country but also for the entire sub-continent. All neighbouring countries, including India, must help the sensible people in Pakistan, though they are a minuscule minority today to establish a truly democratic Pakistan
should have handed him glass of water.
He is a chain smoker
Honey Sharma , Every one doesn't need glass of water !
SMH, These people didn't get the Reference......!!
mahesh sarag its very easy saying those words why didn't you join army you would realise tha what you dealing with,it would be better live in peace open borders like civilised people live Europe
@@sunnybarua6028 lol yea the 2007 modi interview
This is probably one of the best interviews in 2019- very balanced
First of all Congratulating to Siddharth Varadjan for winning Shorenstein Journalism Award for doing and promoting independent and commendable journalism
A Request Please Wire at least run a weekly regular interview of Karan Thaper
I appreciate Husain Haqqani for this thoughts. Wishing all the best for our fellow human beings in Pakistan
This interview is a warning bell for India. We're going down the same path.The present bjp might be playing the religious card for votes,but hindu zealots are getting empowered and once they get political power,all hell will break loose.
Exactly.
nonsensical observation too
Only ignorant Pakistanis of ours can deny and question his patriotism. I've read his books, and he is a terrific writer. Shall place the order for this one too. It's ripe and right time we shunned our illogical predilection for the populist Islamist Ideology and return back to Jinnah's Secularism. Please, anyone interested, do read Ajeet Javed's "Secular and Nationalist Jinnah". Our country has gone on wrong trek and we've been misled to the primrose path of destruction by our intelligence and agencies who have had pursued a Jihadist ideology, following a rigid and conservation strain of Hadithist Islam.
Salman H. Cowasjee, glad to know there are more people who see through the "propaganda state" that has been forged as a neighbor of ours.
@Azmol Hossain ya dumbass there is a abuse of musilm that why your population of musilm in India are growing dumbass moron
@Azmol Hossain we already have so many peoples who criticize hindu bjp rss nd still living peacefully...india is hindu majority country still pk movie is super hit in india. don't teach us about intolerance. we are not like Pakistani muslim extremist
@Azmol Hossain Have you tried to avenge those brothers and sisters of yours who were brutalized savagely by West Pakistan. Up to 3 million of your brothers and sisters were killed by the Pakistan army. Several million fled as refugees and were sheltered by India. Next time you feel the strong urge to shout "Joy Pakistan" think of the reason Bangladesh was born and who helped deliver it!
@Azmol Hossain we can avenge them no need for you to bring your head out of the sand.
i want "nationalist" from both countries to see this but sadly they'll not understand it because their government keeping away from education and progress, just to rule over them. Nice interview btw, loved the Barkistan bit... :D
Denius Another Fuckie from Fuckistan ranting without any reason... Per capita rapes in Fuckistan is higher than India
Himanshu sagar..what do you mean by progress? You seem to be self claimed modernist who think nationalists as non-visionary people even without doing proper poorva-paksha about them.
Can't you see how both of them in the video are trying to portray as if Pakistan was made just on political grounds; otherwise if it had been made in the name of Islam, why did 35-40% Muslims decide to stay in India? Let me answer that by saying Muslims in India were ensured to be given all the Constitutional facilities probably more than Hindus in Majority and that too not on the expense of leaving behind their land or property unlike Hindus in Pakistan. Despite that Constitutional security, Majority of Muslims want to embrace Islamic rule of Pakistan. Not only this, most of the Muslim Ullemas (scholars) of Indian subcontinent of that time went against Jinnah and explicitly asked Muslims to stay in Hindustan bcoz they had this gut feeling that Indian subcontinent will itself become Muslim majority in due course of time like that in Egypt(Misra), Iraq(Babylion and Messopatmia), Iran(Zoroastrian), Indonesia, Malysia, Thailand, etc. But a few Ullemas of that time disagreed upon this and they said that it would be foolish to leave such a big chunk of land i.e., Pakistan (East and West) as of now bcoz if even after 1000 years of Islamic rule, we are in Minority; then how can one ensure that Muslims will be in majority in another 1000 years and that too in Hindu governed democracy? Even Iqbal went from saying "Saare jaha se achha, Hindustan humara" to supporting the formation of Pakistan in the name of la-ilaha-illallah. Even Ambedkar warned Nehru that true Muslims can never accept India as their Motherland bcoz ' ibi bene ibi patria' is unthinkable to Muslims i.e., where there is the rule of Islam, there is his own country or in other words, Islam can never allow a True Muslim to adopt India as his Motherland and regarda Hindu as his kith and kin.
And the result of that confusion among all those Muslim Ullemas along with the complexity of power hungry Jinnah, 'larger than life' image of so called secular Father of Nation Gandhi, epitome of secularism Nehru and the sidelining of Sardar Patel had turned into a reality that today in 2018, Muslims are widespread in whole Indian subcontinent and enjoying all Constitutional facilities of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh wherein Hindus are confined to shrink from Indian subcontinent to India and now are being driven out from Kashmir too.
But some secular liberandus who allege us of giving certificates of anti-nationalism will now here start giving me certificates as fascist or sanghi or bhakt and what not. I am not against Muslims but against some Quranic verses that make Muslims potentially more loyal to Ummah than India. And the same goes for other Abrahamic faiths as well. Those who think solving poverty in India will solve everything and Hindu nationalism is absolutely not necessary, really don't understand the war of Civilizations and setting World Order according to one's ideology. I would actually go to the extend of saying Democracy is Hindu phenomena and not due to 1 or 2 leaders. Can anyone say that had Gandhi Nehru Ambedkar type of leaders been in Pakistan, they would have been able to make Pakistan a real secular democracy? huh?
See, Politics has always been a part of Hinduism since Ramayana and Mahabharata days. Therefore saying Hindutva has nothing to do with Hinduism is a naive and cunning statement. Himsa(Violence) does not always mean physical; dismantling one's culture or reputation also come in Himsa category. It is not Hindutva of RSS that has polarized people bcoz RSS and it's ideology is there for more than 70 years now. This polarisation (I prefer to say it Enlightment) is the result of People studying Quran by themselves on Internet and getting to know Islamic Intention as an ideology along with small small events taking place in India favoring those Quaranic verses+Terror attack world wide(including in India)+Indian History books controlled by Islamist-Naxal nexus and the pattern of their undercover urban agents everywhere+Congress's core ideology (i.e., Minority can only and only be helped by dividing and knocking down Majority otherwise no way out to ensure Equality in the number game of parliamentary form of democracy)+Hypocrisy and selectivity syndrome of Main Stream Media in the fashion of liberalism which people came to know about after 2014 that these intellectuals and self claimed liberals are actually fundamentalist about their so called liberalism.
Not only the intention of the central and state govts, even our Constitution looks like a little biased against Hindu institutions. Taxes on meagre temple donations, government siezure of all temple properties, no freedom to do satsangs/preach. Minorites are exempt from all such things. The CHURCH OWNS second largest territory in India after GOI. Amidst of all these, I believe that we urgently need a Grand Narrative of India that can encompasses everyone with dignity bcoz in the name of ensuring Equality, you can't belittle Majority and Merit at the cost of prosperity and growth of this country.
yes we're the only civilization with heterogeneous complex identities but we have managed to continue this great Civilization not on the basis of fake concocted pretentious 'Unity in Diversity' theory as propagated in the west. Rather the binding force that has always been there in this Civilization is actually 'Diversity in Unity' concept which principally induces the actual sense of belongingness amidst all these multi-culturalism and pluralism inherent in Indic religions and therefore this concept must be mentioned in the Grand Narrative of Bharat. It is this unique open architecture Concept that has helped us to explore life and the so called Universal Truth in our own way without feeling any theoretical insecurity unlike in Abrhamic religions and then later debate on that based on real time experiences and empirical evidences.
That's why we have so many (Indic) religions originated here like Santana Dharma(Hindu), Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism and even Atheism bcoz all these Ways of Life accept that we all are essentially one(Satchidananda) and Life must be lived on the basis of Dharma(law). This 'Diversity in Unity' is self sufficient for one to understand that it has essentially brought to all these Indic Religions the same samskaras in principle to deal in this practical world while making responsible choices such as Mutual-Respect (not this hypocritical Tolerance which intrinsically sounds very insulting too), Reform with the evolution in time, and Minimization of Harm (not absolute Non-Violence which is impractical too bcoz 'himsa'or violence does not only mean physical violence; it also means destroying somones's culture or reputation or intention) in the context of both Nature and Humanity overall.
These Abrahamic Religions which say it's either my way or the highway (satanic) have created this problem of exclusivity but they should also be included within the grand narrative of India (Diversity in Unity) bcoz after all Muslims and Christian brothers are also part of our Indian demography, but on the basis of Mutual-Respect and Minimization of Harm (here in this case 'India First' as the minimum qualifier) i.e, by checking their potential of being more loyal to outside India (i.e Vatican or Mecca or Jerusalem).
But to fight against these exclusive expansionist forces, after scientifically dismantling Aryan Dravidian theory once and for all; we must uproot this menace of fake birth based Caste System 1st by reclaiming temples and taking them over from Govt's hands and introducing Vedic education in temples so that people in general know that it was never meant to be by birth in our scriptures, by inter caste marriages and then by introducing economic assistance to poor and weaker sections of the society instead of 'jati' based reservation system and build a sense of Hindu unity among all Hindus. United Hindus can be best friends of United Muslims, but divided Hindus will ensure a free run for united Muslims in India. Period
@@kenny87ification India is a primitive Rapistan.
@@hassanmirza2392 Fuckistan is an international dog
Didn't like the bark bit
That tasteless joke about BARK didn't suit Karan Thapar. Even Pakistanis largely respect him for being objective!
I guess it was unintended as well as spontaneous
Average Student Agreed! Didn’t find it funny, if that was his intention
Yeah even i was like come on bro
A most interesting and a very informative discussion between two great journalists. Mr. Haqqani's views ,approach and attitude indicate that not all Pakistanis are war mongering people. Very impressed with the interview and being a student of History I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you Karan Thapar and Mr. Haqqani.
Hussain Haqqani is not a journalist..he was a career diplomat for pakistan
I am enlightened....
Thank you, Mr. Husain Haqqani. Your views clearly shows what we Indians should and shouldn’t do about our country.
Yes plz learn a lesson from us Before its too late...
So correct. But religious dogma and hypernationalism pays quick and sureshot dividend, though returns to hurt in the long term.
This person seems to truly love Pakistan, and seems to stick to the truth. Loved this interview!
Wish more pakistani were like him
Gentleman
I think we need to be more like karan thappar first.
@@karanbirsinghbhullar We were like Karan till 2014 - slaves of the mafia! Let us not shy away from freedom just because we have to accept facts as they are, and act responsibly!
Thank you for serious and thought provoking discussions Mr. Karan Thapar. Regards from a Pakistani origin Scandinavian😊
People who lie about their History would never create one, The sad and pathetic state of Pakistan is due to their failure to accept the truth and sincerely work towards a better future, most of the Pakistani society is intellectually bankrupt, you would never hear anything fruitful and worthy coming out of that land, We adhere and seek truth for self improvement, it is a burden but also beautiful. A society which abandons the path of truth and self criticism and improvement is doomed. Pakistan is an example from which we all should learn, People should raise their head above some Mythological or fantasy land and talk the facts, you can't maintain a coherent peaceful society with such state of mind. Mr Haqqani is also right about dangers of using Religion in political discourse, Politics is about governing policies of society and once you allow these "Thekedars" of religion like Mulla, Clerics and Baba to take over your government, they will cripple you intellectually and socially forever, They will eat the best food, live life in luxury while you will be starved and killed and will be told to endure it in the name of religion. India has a very progressive constitution and we should defend it by our life and should not allow any such "self appointed" saviors to take over us.
What is pathetic? There is also pathetic condition in India where people dont even have a toilet .Dont pretend to be a psuedo intellectual and focus on your own surrounding our dear neighbour black Indian😆😆😆
Superb interview. Great depth. Am buying the book right away. Thanks to both of you.
By selecting Yogi Adityanath as CM and parading him for Champaign Modi is doing similar mistake like that of Julfikar Ali Bhutto.
Modi is undoing the ills of Congress misrule. That is all.
India is democratic, pluralistic due to a Hindu majority.
Look what a Muslim majority has done to itself in Pakistan!
And these fucktards broke away saying they can't live with Hindus!
It was congress that kept india united for 70 years. Within one term of modi,we are hearing dravidanadu
For your kind information maulana abdul kalam azad was first education what about that a maulana can become but not a yogi what a double standards
can u give a single logical reason why after 70 years of rule by a single party we are still an under developed country
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I couldn't agree more with Mr. Haqqani, thanks for interviewing him and Letting us know about his book, Lt enlightened us enough to know pakistan, man literally knows his country quite well, all the points he made through the book are right on the button...
Awesome elaboration. Ideological state in long run becomes an authoritarian state. India should learn. The path India traversing now is a convenient path, that may giving easy mejoritarian victory, a guaranteed kingship. But such convenience, in a long run, germinates an authoritarian state too.
Exactly, while people might run around celebrating victory of "their" religion over others, such scenes and attitude and attack on basic constitutional and democratic values and principles can devastate us in long run, Our achievements is due to our constitution and values we adopted to practice and promote, If we also become like Pakistan which talks mythology and can't deal with truth and their own History, we will also become a nation where bunch of elites would abrogate all the powers while rest of the population would be shown middle finger on daily basis. Chamche aur Chatukaar log bade khatarnaak hote hain bhai, Unke andar Reedh ki haddi nahi hoti, Bina pendi ke lote jaise hote hain.
Wonderful interview..... Every Indian and Pakistani should watch....
This interview shows once Karan Thapar was real reporter.
he still is a real reporter.
This interview should be compulsory for the 9th and 10th graders in the schools of Pakistan.
A learned man. A Pakistani very surprising
What a CIVIL way of UNDERSTANDING a desperate situation!..... This interview is a SCHOLAR'S DELIGHT.. Mr. HAQQANI has CONDENSED a complex PARADOX into 30 minutes making it EASIER for us folks not aware of the ground reality to UNDERSTAND and thereafter DEVELOP an INFORMED OPINION about our NEIGHBOR.... GOOD JOB TEAM 'The WIRE'!
There are large numbers of Pakistanis who are questioning the state policies and Armys role in particular. We share the opinon of Haqqanis sab. But the problem we now are facing that Army nurtured and imposed a new leader Imran Khan on us, which means we are going to start again from the ZERO. Nawaz Sharif the puppet of Army has been replaced when he rejected to bow down as he used to be. I would urge all the indians to not hate Pakistanis or Pakistan cos we the pakistanis are also hostages by ISI and Army Generals. (Not the whole institution).
Proof ? ok? Imran Khan will be the PM in coming elections 2018 and im writing this 2 months before the election day.
We still believe that one day we will rise as Turkey and India. INSHALLAH.
Nice to hear that u ppl are realizing the fact.main problem with two sides are illiteracy n unemployment.India with it's large population somehow overcoming past mistakes n literating ppl but Pakistan army n ISI don't want ppl to get educated while they are sending there kids to Oxford n US for education.
I can tell u Indian sentiments are not Anti Pakistan , only problem is ISI n army which starts creating enemity when relations starts getting normalizing.
I am from India salute this Pakistani man who has vast knowledge
Salute this man we also need men like this in India
Hussain Hakkani is so patriotic, smart and nice ! Wonder what would have happened if he became leader of Pakistan.
Lies and only lies is what being fed to pakistani people for years ! I hope pakistani people realize that !
Before it's too late, hope you also realize what he said about present condition of India "Pakistanization of India"
Husain Haqqani is essential reading for anyone with an interest in the tragedy called Pakistan. Excellent interview!
X-ray of Pakistan being discussed
Vimal Khiara ,
😂😂😂,
What a wonderful quote!!!
Vimal, you made my day seriously ... 😉
🤣🤣🤣
Vimal,
Apart from X-ray , it’s also the MRI & CT scan as well...
😂
The disease diagnosed from Pakistan's X-ray i.e, religious extremism has infected India also & there was no vaccine done before so India is in terrible condition whereas Pakistan has now recovered 🤓
Amazing sir, not only Pakistanis should learn from your opinion and erudition but Indians as well.
Pakistanis also forgets that ancestors of their founders M.A. Jinnah and Allama Iqbal are Hindu Kachhi Baniya and Kashmir Pandit respectively.
@Hamad Ishag what a good question you've raised "what were yours & ours ancestors before being Hindu? 🤓
Dude your ancestors would've been ass-clowns just like you are!
Dont behave like a bogus intellectual ,I am Pakistani with central asian descent and my language carries 4000+Uzbec language words
Great interview. A lot of things to learn logically not superficially and without prejudice
Both are in same page.Largely correct but not as simple and straight forward. It's complicated and more to do with sentiments than facts or rationality
@@syedzulfiqar850 yes
Bad host, at least ask if Haqqani needs some water. He had been coughing all through interview
stop playing the victim card for Muslims.. empower them.. let them bring their own water if they know they have a cough
the consequence of drinking a glass of water in a karan thapar interview is quite high😉
Thapar is real scumbag anti india communist cockroach.
@@Hasan-Khan123 Haha the reference though.
wait this interview was recorded ... many cuts was taken like camera goes on the host and then on guest
so maybe he drank water when took a 2 min break in between the interview
I feel like Karan Thapar is interviewing himself. He questions and answers at the same time. So much for British education.
as a country, we Indians should think and imagine what shall our fate if we continue islamofobic hate politics against minorities and weaker sections..
Exactly our youths are also rapidly being brainwashed into hatred and fanaticism.
History is repeating itself and the only alternative to this is the vigorous support of our majority secular Hindu citizens to oppose this narrative and start respecting our forefathers than worshiping RSS ideology.
+Ajay prasad plz explain what do you mean???
Well this is a lesson for us in india too what not to be ! That's why India's secularism, pluralism & diversity need to be respected
Karan Sir, you missed by the predictions of Maulana Azad about Pakistan.
Nor does Haqqani mentions that in his books, don't know why?
I'm glad I stumbled across this interview. It seems almost impossible to find such insightful and sober discussions taking place in the mainstream. Where, more often than not, you are taken through a tempestuous roller coaster and upon leaving the ride you feel awfully confused and angry at yourself for getting on the ride in the first place.
On a side note, I believe Karan Thapar is a magnificent journalist and interviewer. The man's eloquent, focused, and--contrary to the popular belief--a very good listener. I guess people who take offense in his sharp-witted style don't seem to understand that he's simply trying to distill his interviewee's rhetorics and subtle digressions.
Karan Thapar is a great journalist, I saw an interview between Barkha and Hussain recently and Barkha had no idea .
both are sensible 😍😍
Ilyas Jikani.. Only Mr. Hussain Haqquani is sensible.. Whereas Karan thapar has no credibility in India as generalist but as a big broker (dalal).
HUSAIN HAQQANI is one of his own kind of diplomat, impartial lucid and practical in his thinking, he has been one of the 'rarest of 'intellectual' from a country which knows ''NO INTELLECTION '' worth the name. His analyses are incisive, informative & soberly judgemental. he is one of our trusted friends, so far as his approach to INDO-PAK relations are concerned. here is a diplomat with a 'NO NONSENSE'' approach to attaining a proper rapprochement between our countries. he could be used with advantage,when it comes to resolution of our mutual hatred and problems besetting our two countries. i have always admired him for his ability to balance issues from a broader perspective, free from cloistered thinking.
Pakistan thinks he is a paid agent of RAW . 😂😂😂
Pakistan is more democratic in nature than India. Think, if he were Indian, so called nationalist incl Indian bjp govt wud have proved him anti national by now, may be with article 124 A
for one thing HUSSAIN HAQQANI has done a glorious job of dissecting present day PAKISTAN in his book. His unalloyed, impartial assessment of INDIAN situation as it existed then at the time of this discussion happening is quite unequivocal, admirably incisive, & totally unbiased......one quality which i admire in Mr Haqqani immensely.......any other PAKISTANI in his place, howsoever 'educated' would be spewing VENOM on INDIA. HATS OFF TO YOU SIR HAQQANI.....if INDO-PAK RELATIONS has to flower one day,people like Mr Haqqani must get together. let us hope against hope.!!
Rings any bells dear Bhakts where you're taking India to?
Pankaj LOL
Abey chutiye that’s Islam for you. Hindu religion does not lead to such fanaticism.
What a lame comment u made I am not sure what your objectives are.
Answer a simple question, as Modi was elected with un President majority in recent times, what percentage of the population do u feel are Modi Bhakt?
A second question if u Allredy categorize a significant population as differnt & use a presumed derogatory term, how do you think this population will even bother to see your comment in a positive light & make a corse correction if required?
While your comment should have opened a new horizon of thoughts for some who might be gliful with present state of affairs you make the society further divided by your rhetoric. Grow up please & if you have a good intention make your good intentions felt, fight for it but with grace coz at end of the day u are fighting to your fellow brotheren.
Actually india is improving by leaps and bounds economically, and societally. So your screaming bhakts at any who are taking india forward is useless bantor from the left/congress types.
India is hindu majorrity (your bhakts). So india will not go the way of pakistan an islamic state.
Research the differences between hinduism and islam . Maybe you will learn something. Or take you lal jhanda khuni bian hath and shove it up your...like kuran thappar here.
Comparing BJP/Modi supporters with radical islamists is moronic. Look at the economical situation India was in March 2014 and compare it with today.
Good to see someone talking unbiased about his own state from a neutral stand point. I would really appreciate his courage and care about his state to get into right path. Unlike his other politician who only spit venom on India and spread hatred. I wish his thought become reality and his state get back to right track and lead to be a peaceful state
Pak Military realized quickly that it must create tension with India to continue to gobble up most of the countries budget. Pak Military/ISi are the richest bunch of people in Pakistan.
Its not an interview ,Some dont like to have water in a discussion its called PROFESSIONALISM
Karan Thappar would you please allow the guest to speak????!!
If you knew all the answers already why ask? Crazy!
Karan Thapar should interview HH now and find out where Pakistan is heading and where India is heading now.
is it just me or do others also feel that India is headed in the same direction? everything he said about pakistan being a "Semi-authoritarian" state sounds true for India also (as per my perception)
amrit bansal your perception is wrong and stupid
amrit bansal
Stupid Guy
amrit bansal let me explain how?
No, I don't feel so.
Ram Krishna what about our bhagwa rapist and cow protectors ....respect your name ..
Karan thapar is the gem in journalism,an upright analyst of sub continent
Mughals were Indians.... As Indian as anyone else in India..
sourav Ghosh Do look up the etymology of the word "Mughal" on Wikipedia.
Idiot do you what is the meaning of mughal mughals were turks uzbeks
sourav Ghosh mughal are mongols not turk
ultradestruction that's why they used to speak in Persian. Hahaha
They were foregein invaders and there is nothing wrong to accept the truth
Mughals are bangali as bangali as you are
Respect this guy for his ability to speak straight. He clearly wants his country to be on right track. Have read all his books. But alas, he does not get much traction in his country where neither is he listened to nor respected. Feel sad for such a learned man
I request the wire to provide Hindi subtitles to this video so that I can share it with my "semi educated" Bhakt friends. AND I AM SERIOUS HERE. They need to see the gutters they are digging have already been dug elsewhere and my God it stinks like hell. Hindi subtitles will be a good start to reach wider audience especially for those who need it the most.
as modi was elected in majority..what percentage of population do u feel are modi bhakt?? comparing modi supporter nd radical islamists is moronic. most of the people voted for modi because of leadership which was missing in opposition.
The History is not the Only issue, because If I am in an Elementary School in Pakistan, I would not need a Detail History of Mohenjodaro, Taxila, Mehrangarh, Potohar, Or any other Civilizations that existed before Modern History of Pakistan. These kind of topics are discuss in detail When a Person reaches in College and Universities.
The Idea of Pakistan is a Modern than other Civilizations, because Identity of Pakistan is a Culmination of Different ethnicity of People with a Same religion of Islam, Which thought us Tolerance to other people of faith and ethnicity. In last 70 Years, Pakistani were fooled by People in Elite Society to be use as Fooder for their World view. Now Pakistanis have come to realize that our culture is of tolerance and acceptance of other faith and ethnicity.
@john smith: Use of Fake name is like John Smith does not Hold Weight to Your Arguments. Historical Facts are researched in University or Colleges, Not at an Elementary Levels.
Have You not Gone to High School in US, where It is White wash to remove Past action taken by ancestors of Present Patriots of USA Brigade. No matter What You are thought in What Grade, Hate is Thought in Home Environment, not in an Educational Institutes.
RSS has their training camps, just like ISIS or Taliban.
We must note that India got independent but Pakistan was born in 1947.
Though I like watching these interviews Mr. Thapar hosts, it's extremely irritating how he keeps interrupting the guests before they can finish their thoughts. Listening is also a skill that unfortunately many of our journalists don't have.
The Future. It seems that a journalist is interviewing an Indian intellectual in 2050. Talking about the sequences that happened in India during early 21st Century.
(There is still some time for us, the Indians.)
Karen thapar does tie himself up in knots to ensure people understand that this is Haqqani’s views and not his own.
Karan Thapar is an Urban Naxal a paid media. Husain Haqqani is very knowledgeable, truthful and respected Internationally. Wish more Pakistanis were like him.
💯 percent
It was pleasure hearing his words about Pakistan's past, present and future..
What would have been the future of Pakistan if Md.Ali Jinnah had ruled pakistan for 17 years as Nehru dod in India?
(please come with scholarly intellect ,not to abuse anyone or quarrel)
I don't think it'll be much different then today's scenario because he wants to get different country on the basis of religion and he did have some vision about the betterment of his countrymen but he did not have the amount of people to plan and execute the ideas the way jawahar lal nehru had. Just an opinion i don't want to quarrel either.
Himanshu sagar Respect your points and agree too
Great question,
As in the above interview it said that Jinnah died a year after the partition. It's like a child became an orphan at the age of one year, and Pakistan didn't get any leader of his statue, and that too at the early and most critical phase of Pakistan. That is very the foundation of Pakistan remain weak, and thus it level able to grow up.
As, after partition, it's our then PM Nehru and especially Sardar Patel, who integrated all the princely states, and made a unified India, which many western countries have thought would disintegrate very soon like that of European countries.
In brief, there won't be any India, that we see today, with the largest democracy, largest written constitution, highly diverse and yet integrated, without the personalities like Dr B. R. Ambedkat, J. L. Nehru, Valabhai Patel etc.
I think we would have been in a worst state than that of Pakistan if we had not been gifted with such leadership at the early phase after independence or partition.
Assume, what would have been the situation of India, if Nehru = Modi, Patel = Yogi etc.
Mehboob Elahi Mr.Mehboob,even on my worst nightmare,I wouldn't assume what would have been the future of India if Modi and Yogi were in the place of Nehru and Patel respectively.
Neheru was secular and gave freedom to every individual to follow any religion but his economy policy failed.it took 44 years to rectify that mistake when india adopted market based economy (liberalization of economy).even Communist China liberalized their economy in 1979 but india continued to follow Communist economic policy until 1991.
People like Mr. Haqqani should be given higher platform and stature for betterment of the region.
does any one from pakistan calls Hussain haqqani Anti-National???????????????????? in india we call such persons...........
kareem hassan oh yes they do call him anti national, he can't enter pakistan, all his property is left there , he can't take it back
amit krishnani : ha ha ha world is watching u dear very closely soon u will get what u bhakts are growing today. Rape, murderes, killings, lynchings, lies,.......
In India....even those who argue against India/Indian Army....freely live & work, Ex- Arundhati Roy ALWAYS targest India as a a whole. YET she has a big bungalow in South Delhi & freely lives & works in India. In Paksitan however...Tarek Fatah, Husain Haqqani ARE NOT EVEN allowed to live freely.
Hussain haqani is traitors
He cannot return to Pakistan dumbass
Must compliment whoever thought of installing acoustic panels in the room, quite surprised at this level of thought being put
Ankur Pandey where is the water???
It's future is yet to come. Though it was created with fear that a particular majority community may in future Dominate a particular Religious Minority. ie Muslims. But there is a substantial difference between Islam and Muslims. Being Muslims might be a religious identity but Islam in itself is a Distinguished Socio-Politico-Economic system. Which unfortunately Secular Pakistan can't understand.
true..Both of them are trying to portray as if Pakistan was made just on political grounds; otherwise if it had been made in the name of Islam, why did 35-40% Muslims decide to stay in India? Let me answer that by saying Muslims in India got all the Constitutional facilities probably more than Hindus in Majority and that too not on the expense of leaving behind their land or property unlike Hindus in Pakistan. Not only this, most of the Muslim Ullemas (scholars) of Indian subcontinent of that time went against Jinnah and explicitly asked Muslims to stay in Hindustan bcoz they had this gut feeling that Indian subcontinent will itself become Muslim majority in due course of time like that in Egypt(Misra), Iraq(Babylion and Messopatmia), Iran(Zoroastrian), Indonesia, Malysia, Thailand, etc. But a few Ullemas of that time disagreed upon this and they said that it would be foolish to leave such a big chunk of land i.e., Pakistan (East and West) as of now bcoz if even after 1000 years of Islamic rule, we are in Minority; then how can one ensure that Muslims will be in majority in another 1000 years and that too in Hindu governed democracy? Even Iqbal went from saying "Saare jaha se achha, Hindustan humara" to supporting the formation of Pakistan in the name of la-ilaha-illallah. Even Ambedkar warned Nehru that true Muslims can never accept India as their Motherland bcoz ' ibi bene ibi patria' is unthinkable to Muslims i.e., where there is the rule of Islam, there is his own country or in other words, Islam can never allow a True Muslim to adopt India as his Motherland and regarda Hindu as his kith and kin.
And the result of that confusion among all those Muslim Ullemas along with the complexity of power hungry Jinnah, 'larger than life' image of so called secular Father of Nation Gandhi, epitome of secularism Nehru and the sidelining of Sardar Patel had turned into a reality that today in 2018, Muslims are widespread in whole Indian subcontinent and enjoying all Constitutional facilities of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh wherein Hindus are confined to shrink from Indian subcontinent to India and now are being driven out from Kashmir too.
But some secular liberandus who allege us of giving certificates of anti-nationalism will now here start giving me certificates as fascist or sanghi or bhakt and what not. I am not against Muslims but against some Quranic verses that make Muslims potentially more loyal to Ummah than India. And the same goes for other Abrahamic faiths as well. Those who think solving poverty in India will solve everything and Hindu nationalism is absolutely not necessary, really don't understand the war of Civilizations and setting World Order according to one's ideology. I would actually go to the extend of saying Democracy is Hindu phenomena and not due to 1 or 2 leaders. Can anyone say that had Gandhi Nehru Ambedkar type of leaders been in Pakistan, they would have been able to make Pakistan a real secular democracy? huh?
See, Politics has always been a part of Hinduism since Ramayana and Mahabharata days. Therefore saying Hindutva has nothing to do with Hinduism is a naive and cunning statement. Himsa(Violence) does not always mean physical; dismantling one's culture or reputation also come in Himsa category. It is not Hindutva of RSS that has polarized people bcoz RSS and it's ideology is there for more than 70 years now. This polarisation (I prefer to say it Enlightment) is the result of People studying Quran by themselves on Internet and getting to know Islamic Intention as an ideology along with small small events taking place in India favoring those Quaranic verses+Terror attack world wide(including in India)+Indian History books controlled by Islamist-Naxal nexus and the pattern of their undercover urban agents everywhere+Congress's core ideology (i.e., Minority can only and only be helped by dividing and knocking down Majority otherwise no way out to ensure Equality in the number game of parliamentary form of democracy)+Hypocrisy and selectivity syndrome of Main Stream Media in the fashion of liberalism which people came to know about after 2014 that these intellectuals and self claimed liberals are actually fundamentalist about their so called liberalism.
Not only the intention of the central and state govts, even our Constitution looks like a little biased against Hindu institutions. Taxes on meagre temple donations, government siezure of all temple properties, no freedom to do satsangs/preach. Minorites are exempt from all such things. The CHURCH OWNS second largest territory in India after GOI. Amidst of all these, I believe that we urgently need a Grand Narrative of India that can encompasses everyone with dignity bcoz in the name of ensuring Equality, you can't belittle Majority and Merit at the cost of prosperity and growth of this country.
yes we're the only civilization with heterogeneous complex identities but we have managed to continue this great Civilization not on the basis of fake concocted pretentious 'Unity in Diversity' theory as propagated in the west. Rather the binding force that has always been there in this Civilization is actually 'Diversity in Unity' concept which principally induces the actual sense of belongingness amidst all these multi-culturalism and pluralism inherent in Indic religions and therefore this concept must be mentioned in the Grand Narrative of Bharat. It is this unique open architecture Concept that has helped us to explore life and the so called Universal Truth in our own way without feeling any theoretical insecurity unlike in Abrhamic religions and then later debate on that based on real time experiences and empirical evidences.
That's why we have so many (Indic) religions originated here like Santana Dharma(Hindu), Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism and even Atheism bcoz all these Ways of Life accept that we all are essentially one(Satchidananda) and Life must be lived on the basis of Dharma(law). This 'Diversity in Unity' is self sufficient for one to understand that it has essentially brought to all these Indic Religions the same samskaras in principle to deal in this practical world while making responsible choices such as Mutual-Respect (not this hypocritical Tolerance which intrinsically sounds very insulting too), Reform with the evolution in time, and Minimization of Harm (not absolute Non-Violence which is impractical too bcoz 'himsa'or violence does not only mean physical violence; it also means destroying somones's culture or reputation or intention) in the context of both Nature and Humanity overall.
These Abrahamic Religions which say it's either my way or the highway (satanic) have created this problem of exclusivity but they should also be included within the grand narrative of India (Diversity in Unity) bcoz after all Muslims and Christian brothers are also part of our Indian demography, but on the basis of Mutual-Respect and Minimization of Harm (here in this case 'India First' as the minimum qualifier) i.e, by checking their potential of being more loyal to outside India (i.e Vatican or Mecca or Jerusalem).
But to fight against these exclusive expansionist forces, after scientifically dismantling Aryan Dravidian theory once and for all; we must uproot this menace of fake birth based Caste System 1st by reclaiming temples and taking them over from Govt's hands and introducing Vedic education in temples so that people in general know that it was never meant to be by birth in our scriptures, by inter caste marriages and then by introducing economic assistance to poor and weaker sections of the society instead of 'jati' based reservation system and build a sense of Hindu unity among all Hindus. United Hindus can be best friends of United Muslims, but divided Hindus will ensure a free run for united Muslims in India. Period
Karan Thapar is India’s most celebrated journalist. Proud to have him.
By listening to this interview what I can conclude is that whatever is happening in India today we will end up like Pakistan very soon
MAHENDRA DEV Because he is a citizen of india not Pakistan bro...
Btw truth hurts...
@Little John idk why you are fake god
We don't even have a statue or picture of him
The only thing we believe is that theres only one god we don't know how he looks
And we don't need to prove our patriotism to people like you
I don't care what you guys think about us
And we will live in india forever and you won't be able to do anything about it
The only thing you can do is abuse, spread hatred, keep your heart burning from inside and be the tool for political propogandas
Good luck with your hindu rashtra dream
Thats never gonna happen
India is secular country and it will continue to be
It Will not to happen , there is difference between vision of every Hindustani。。 people core think is "a nation always put first rether then religion"
@@laksh1686 well most of BJP supporters believe in hinduism first
Allies of bjp dont even care about constitution and law
They lynch ppl without thinking about law
They dont wanna wait for supreme court verdict
They just wanna destroy masjid and wanna build mandir on their
@phelomina sigamani wrong
Pakistan- Islamic state
India- Secular state
Hakkani sahab is, as usual , great , what knowledge , experience , and more than anything , magnanimity of character , these are the future of the world , love you sir
Great
Tera number de , mil kr baat karenge ....
Husain Haqqani is truly genius.....a Truth speaker... hat's off to you sir.... God bless you
Meanwhile in India we are facing a new political wave where anything said against a political party or a certain leader can be judged as Anti-India....fighting a seventy year war and criminalization of politics is finally taking it's toll....I am afraid for my country and future of democracy in it
That's because your an idiot 😜😉😉😉
Whatever the response of the viewers, it's a good handout about Pakistan that is not given by the press.
The wire, why are you ignoring recent violence in West Bengal over panchayat polls. It shows your biases
R C yes bcoz panchayat polls are important tool for grassroot level democracy
Hussain haqqani Saab a great scholor the earth ever heard or seen..
Give him some water Karan, constantly coughing :P
How often do you want to interrupt?
Karan Thapar : Yes