Hahaha! Believe me nobody wants a cranked to be superior to pedals more than I do, but this tone and playability really gave me a huge boost of energy!
@@JohanSegeborn Listening to it now, that's an incredible sound. Nobody can deny that this is really really good. I love my cranked amps as much as everyone else, but I can also appreciate the usage of pedals or even high quality modelers like the helix to reach a good sound, particularly for recording. JHS has won me over
Which brings me to the argument of: Hot rodded Marshall ( not stock) VS factory clean vintage amp set up for best possible outcome with your favorite boost pedal(s) Winner? My take leave your vintage amp stock ( original) and use those pedals and or volume control on your guitar
@@stevencancel1727 for sure. There's also the entirely reversible Hot Mods, a DSL Green channel cranked, and oodles of MIAB pedals. Aside from sometimes finicky Tech 21 stuff (glorious in context!) I really like the Wampler stuff. I could easily be happy with a Pinnacle, preferably the Deluxe v2.
There have been a couple of times when amp overdrive has been integrated into my sound, but I've generally preferred pedals into a clean or almost-clean amp as a matter of work flow. They're easier to control and you can step on a button and go from clean to dirty. The amp softens up the sound a bit, but there are so many variables in amp distortion live, while a pedal is discrete and adjustable. Also an amp that's not dimed has more headroom. You can get louder and louder with additional pedals, while a dirty amp compresses and distorts. Finally, I was never able to accurately able to adjust my volume knob while singing. I find it easier to use my feet. That way, each part of my body has one job to do.
Great sound as always! 😊 I’ve used stacked overdrive pedals for years and it’s such an amazing way to color the sound in different ways, and nowadays I constantly have a Rangemaster type treble booster first in the chain. I’d love to hear this setup with the amp set to the edge of breakup, lower the drive of the pedals to just above zero and use the pedals output to control how much overdrive you get from the rig. And those EVM speakers sure are amazing, but I don’t envy the Iron Maiden roadies that had to carry all of their EVM loaded Marshall cabs in the 80s. 😊
Dear Johan, your videos are my reference for Marshall tone. I particularly watched your tones with orange amps and when you compared epiphones and Les Pauls. This to me sound just as fantastic. Amazing video as always. You're inspiring.
I had put that album on cassette tape back in the day and wore it out in one of those sears tape recorders with the joystick instead of push buttons. You certainly have that tone nailed.
Johan, great video as always - JHS idea of combining pedals was a big shift for me too. It's much easier to set up a pedalboard and control gain/volume and other effects this way. (Side note - you look great man! Very fit!)
Thanks George! Yeah the way Josh shares his knowledge on the JHS channel is amazing. That must be a world-first for a commercial company. I hope that approach will prove successful for their company so other companies will follow. That could really revitalise the overall community and industry.
My latest board has a double klon, one side set for OD, the other as boost. Treble booster in front. One of the best setups for pushing a lower volume amp to make it sound like it’s in the zone.
Aloha Johan! Hau'ole Makahiki Hou! (Happy New Year) ! I'm using a JHS Notaklon and TS type into my Germino. Lots of fun. Mahalo Johan. Looking forward to another year of your videos.
You had me at “Firehouse”, Johan! I use a similar set up with the Morning Glory and the Wampler Tumnus. I also got the idea from Josh and I was quite shocked when I first tried it. The Centaur circuit does a great classic hard rock sound when paired with the Morning Glory or any other Bluesbreaker style circuit.
Stacking dirt pedals is a great way to get some tones at lower volume. I do it all the time! Sounds great! Has that bite, clarity, and growl. I think this channel may have turned me into a lover of the KISS alive album. Haha!
You should run a similar test with a guitar with "vintage" or medium-output pickups installed, ideally ones with tight low-end like the PAF Pros. Super Distortions pickups have a lots low-end that gets cut by these pedals, tightening up the sound before it hits the amp.
Cheers Johan. Ive mention this before but ive boosted a boss DS1 with a tube screamer for a long time. Its a great tone. Into any amp. I recently bought a klon style pedal that I boost the DS1 with. Theres so many great tones available just by mixing drives
@@JohanSegeborn That's true. I have a pair of DiMarzios in a 90s Les Paul, They are from the very early 70s.A Super Distortion in the bridge, and a PAF in the neck. I'm pretty sure Larry hand made these at home, before they went commercial.
I used to gig without using any pedals using my Fender 57 tweed Twin reissue or tweed Blues Deluxe. I'd crank them to about 8 and get that glorious power tube overdrive and I'd place a few gig bags in front of the amp to dampen the volume to not blast the audience and it worked great. But I gig 5 nights a week and I got tired of always bringing my amp to the shop every few months to repair a blown speaker or replace the worn tubes or whatever other issue occurred due to the amp being pushed so hard every night. Nowadays I gig with the volume on 2 and leave an Ibanez 808 reissue always on (gain set to maximum,tone at 1 o'clock and volume even with the amp)and get a great 'cranked' sound at a much more reasonable volume for bar gigs and my amps have no issues except for the occasional tube change every few years. Unless you're someone like Angus Young who can afford to crank the amp up every night and have it serviced every day it doesn't make sense for a working musician to be cranking their amp like that night after night unless you don't mind paying for the frequent issues that will inevitably arise from such hard use.
Since being able to afford tube-based amps and having a place to play them at roughly the volume needed to hit their sweet spot, I have been biased (no pun intended) towards relying on the amp for tone and have shunned pedals. However, as my 90s / 2000s era amps age and begin suffering reliabilty issues, it is becoming harder to find new amps that can get the desired tone and still be reliable. Reverting to a model that focuses on clean amplification and pedals in front for dirt / crunch / cream / effects etc. is looking more practical. This demo seems to confirm that someone with your ears who has previously extracted great tone / pick attack from amps "the old fashioned way" can get identical results from pedals speaks volumes (pun intended.) Spending more than $2000 on some boutique tube amp is really insane at this point.
In 1978 I was 16 and my grandmother came home with a brand new Yamaha G-100 2x12. Super clean so I put a LPB-1 into a MXR distortion + and the rest is history. She did hate the 100 watts…. Lmao
In the bedroom, overdrive pedals into a clean amp are ideal. At gig volumes, too much overdrive doesn't work, however, as the sound gets lost in the mix. But: an _almost_ clean, very boosted OD pedal into a clean amp is excellent. I use a Boss BD-2 (in conjunction with the guitar's controls), but I'm sure others would be just as good.
Check out the JHS Double Barrel for those tones. Great combo. I have an odd ball...Double Barrel with the Sweet Tea colorway. Never seen another one like it.
Thanks glad to hear it! That will be coming up soon. I’m gonna combine the seminal pedals with all my guitars and speakers the coming months here on the channel. I’m building a reference pedalboard right now.
waitlist is 4-5 years to get one so I recommend you get on the list - I have both the KTR and KoT and it I had to choose only one I'd go KoT all the way. It becomes a pedal you can't live without pretty quickly. I have 3 from the last 15 years of signing up and waiting and if you ever want to borrow one I'd be ok sending to you to demo.
You’re right this sounds really good! Speaking of drives, Johan have you ever tried a Poewerboost/Overdriver type pedal? I’ve always thought that would make an amazing video.
@ thanks for the response and absolutely! If I had to pick one I’d say a Tru-Fi Colordriver 18V I’d look for. Can’t confirm this, but it’s suppose to be pretty darn close to the original Colorsound Overdriver pedals back in the day. Either way it sounds fantastic! Kind of gives you that between fuzz and overdriven sound (think Leslie West, Jimmy Page or Jeff Beck) and it cleans up like a Fuzz Face off the volume knob. Seems like something you’d enjoy after quite a bit of your content haha.
@@2DclanSnipingTeam me too! And with pedals you can get whatever distortion sound you want, while dirty channels in amp usually have one or two sounds.
@ontario. True, but this route is even older than that going back to the 70s and even 60s with devices like treble boosters and the Electroharmonix LPB1 which some players used two of in series as they were fairly low gain boosts.
JHS logo is the Kansas City, Missouri municipal logo, representing the many fountains in Kansas City, Mo. It makes me proud to see my city’s logo, where I was born, on these JHS pedals and in the thumbnails of TH-camrs I like
One of my favorit pedal driven tones it EP booster into the Ceriatone Centura Klon clone. My most often driven sound is Centura into the Gladio DC. There is almost no way to play as loud enough to get real amplifiers to overdrive way they should. I have had a session in the rehearsal room to test 3 of my amplifiers. 40, 50 and 80 Watt amplifiers. They were just insane loud especially the 80 Watt one. Already with a half stack it becomes unpleasantly loud until it gets to overdrive fully. But that is because that amplifier has been designed to have huge headroom. Still it has to overdrive nice and musically. So in the most of the situations amplifier is clean or at the edge of the breakup and something is pushing it creating the overall gain texture. If it sounds awesome why would someone care how do you get there?
@JohanSegeborn BTW, awesome combination. I get why you have chosen EVM 12L. No give and all headroom. So that all compression and gain structure is from the pedals. That is stepping out of the comfort zone of beautiful Greenback breakup in 4x12 when driven hard. I get it to emulate it you didn't want speakers to do no heavy lifting.
Never liked Kiss but this did sound excellent. Ever tried a Treble booster into a Rat at low gain? Imho a low gain Rat is one of the very best ways to emulate a cranked tube amp with a pedal. Overdrive pedals usually just don't have that hard edge/attack and harmonics you get from a tube amp but distortion pedals do.
@@JohanSegeborn Cool, looking forward! I think it's so underrated for it's lower gain, i.e. classic rock kind of sounds. Has more mids that way too and sits so well in a mix.
Does sound great! I've tried this approach about 1000 times and I can never get the sound as good as amp cranked (to my ears anyway). I'll try again. What gain level is the Archer on?
Not surprising. The Klon was designed with the intent of getting you to that 'cranked' zone better than any overdrive before it. Even in the late 80s, which iirc is when Finnegan began his journey, clubs weren't necessarily into ear bleeding decibel levels. For regular guys, as much as I LOVE a cranked Marshall, it's silly to have to go straight to Meadowlands volume levels just to "sound like yourself." Be curious to see you try out some Tech 21 Character pedals - particularly the British, Oxford, and Leeds. JFET goodness!
Yeah I can do a video with a couple of Klons including the original with a bunch of overdrives to investigate what contributes with what. I think the tone of Morning glory showcased at the end was killer
@JohanSegeborn Brian Wampler seems to not be a believer in Le Magic Diode, as the Tumnus doesn't have one on purpose. Then you have the Mosky Golden Horse, which does. Through Hole construction on that one single component. I don't think you can go very wrong with any of them - the originals are like Dumbles, seasoned to taste for the buyer. I had a Joyo Tauren, loved it. Their R series pedals are really something, with the disco lights & all that. Klons are just great pedals - great clean boost, great dirt, and a near infinite combination of the two at various points in the middle. People still treat them like they did in the 2000s when no Klones yet existed - I don't care that the original is 4 figures because collectability, the circuit is just classic and useful. Has that *sauce.*
Cool, I wonder if that pedal delivers this sound. The Morning glory is inspired by the blues breaker but it has a shimmer to it that I haven’t heard elsewhere and that I think is key to retaining the openness of the amp. Pedals usually kill that
@@JohanSegebornfor me the most flexible is a 3 pedal setup. I’ve used this approach for many years. Pedal 1 is some sort of boost or pedal set to be a boost. I like using a TS or Klon. Pedal 2 is a low/medium gain drive. I like using a Nobels, Prince of Tone, Lightspeed Pedal 3 is a higher gain drive. I like using a Rat Pedal 2 on for overdrive. Pedal 1 boosted into pedal 2 for lower gain solos Pedal 3 on for higher gain drive. Pedal 1 boosted into pedal 2 for higher gain solos. Gives you 4 distinct voices and you can set the amount of volume or drive boost you want depending on how you set pedal 1. I generally like to keep gain low and volume a bit above unity. Try it out!
@@dansomerville what's cool about the Morning Glory is that you can add another footswitch to engage a boost within the pedal. My setup is similar to yours, but with just the morning glory + extra footswitch running into a Rat (TC Magus Pro but it's basically a Rat). I keep the morning glory on low gain but can engage the boost when I need it.
Yeah Kiss was most likely mostly straight into the amp. The cool thing about this pedal combination is that it sounds close to the sound of a cranked Marshall
You never actually compare the pedals to a cranked amp. But no, they sound like pedals, and not the most convincing amp tone. The diode clipping, can of bees thing is definitely happening here.
It actually sounds similar to most of my videos, where the amp is bringing the distortion. This is actually one of my closest attempts at the early Kiss guitar tone. But tone is subjective. This is indeed a really bright tone.
Great playing and tone! Also, congrats on 100K subscribers. You deserve the recognition.
Thanks Joey, great that you like the channel! Cheers
Another outstanding demo. Marshall should put this guy on their payroll. This channel is a resource. 100%
people are not gonna be happy about this one! I sure am excited!!!
Hahaha! Believe me nobody wants a cranked to be superior to pedals more than I do, but this tone and playability really gave me a huge boost of energy!
Oh, if they can handle a Peavey Bandit, they'll live!
@@JohanSegeborn Listening to it now, that's an incredible sound. Nobody can deny that this is really really good. I love my cranked amps as much as everyone else, but I can also appreciate the usage of pedals or even high quality modelers like the helix to reach a good sound, particularly for recording. JHS has won me over
Which brings me to the argument of:
Hot rodded Marshall ( not stock)
VS factory clean vintage amp set up for best possible outcome with your favorite boost pedal(s)
Winner? My take leave your vintage amp stock ( original) and use those pedals and or volume control on your guitar
@@stevencancel1727 for sure.
There's also the entirely reversible Hot Mods, a DSL Green channel cranked, and oodles of MIAB pedals.
Aside from sometimes finicky Tech 21 stuff (glorious in context!) I really like the Wampler stuff.
I could easily be happy with a Pinnacle, preferably the Deluxe v2.
There have been a couple of times when amp overdrive has been integrated into my sound, but I've generally preferred pedals into a clean or almost-clean amp as a matter of work flow. They're easier to control and you can step on a button and go from clean to dirty. The amp softens up the sound a bit, but there are so many variables in amp distortion live, while a pedal is discrete and adjustable. Also an amp that's not dimed has more headroom. You can get louder and louder with additional pedals, while a dirty amp compresses and distorts. Finally, I was never able to accurately able to adjust my volume knob while singing. I find it easier to use my feet. That way, each part of my body has one job to do.
Great sound as always! 😊
I’ve used stacked overdrive pedals for years and it’s such an amazing way to color the sound in different ways, and nowadays I constantly have a Rangemaster type treble booster first in the chain.
I’d love to hear this setup with the amp set to the edge of breakup, lower the drive of the pedals to just above zero and use the pedals output to control how much overdrive you get from the rig.
And those EVM speakers sure are amazing, but I don’t envy the Iron Maiden roadies that had to carry all of their EVM loaded Marshall cabs in the 80s. 😊
Thanks Emil! Cool, you always have great tone. Let’s do a video where we compare amp push to pedal push. Cheers
Dear Johan, your videos are my reference for Marshall tone. I particularly watched your tones with orange amps and when you compared epiphones and Les Pauls. This to me sound just as fantastic. Amazing video as always. You're inspiring.
Thanks, makes my day to hear that!
❤ soooo good. The 3 series overdrive is very very good as well, pushing a klon style drive. Belated happy new year!!
Thanks! Happy New Year!
Absolutely loved the video man. Incredible sound from pedals...
Thanks Michael! Glad to hear it!
As always, a stellar video my friend!. What a great combination. The right boost for the righ dirt pedal and you're set.
Thanks my friend glad you liked it!
Fantastic tone Johan! I always look forward to your videos!
Thanks man, I’m really glad to hear that!
❤ thanks for the videos! Always fun and informative. I love hearing you talking about amps and all of this stuff!
Thanks, I’m really glad to hear that!
I had put that album on cassette tape back in the day and wore it out in one of those sears tape recorders with the joystick instead of push buttons. You certainly have that tone nailed.
Thanks, it’s great to hear that!
Sounds amazing! Great playing.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Johan, great video as always - JHS idea of combining pedals was a big shift for me too. It's much easier to set up a pedalboard and control gain/volume and other effects this way. (Side note - you look great man! Very fit!)
Thanks man, that’s kind of you!
I was very sceptical at first but damn, this sounds great! Love the midrange punch you got out of it.
Thanks Mikael! I was skeptical too until I plugged it in
Thanks for this !!! I really enjoyed it....And Josh is so cool too !!!
Thanks George! Yeah the way Josh shares his knowledge on the JHS channel is amazing. That must be a world-first for a commercial company. I hope that approach will prove successful for their company so other companies will follow. That could really revitalise the overall community and industry.
I dig the clean tone and the drive. Well played.
Thanks, glad to hear it!
Wow that sounded great! I wish you could come to Canada and help me get my tone in order.
Great video as always!
Thanks Ian! I have only been to Canada once, Vancouver. Love that city
My latest board has a double klon, one side set for OD, the other as boost. Treble booster in front. One of the best setups for pushing a lower volume amp to make it sound like it’s in the zone.
Aloha Johan! Hau'ole Makahiki Hou! (Happy New Year) ! I'm using a JHS Notaklon and TS type into my Germino. Lots of fun. Mahalo Johan. Looking forward to another year of your videos.
Aloha Victor! Gott Nytt År! (Happy New Year) Glad to have you here at the channel!
@JohanSegeborn Mahalo Johan always enjoy your video's past and present.
Godt nyttår, Johan!
Great Alive tone, crisp and clear. That EVM loaded cab must be a real back breaker :)
Gott nytt år Jan! Yeah that baffle is put to the test 😆
Yep. That sounded fantastic.
Thanks, glad to hear it!
You had me at “Firehouse”, Johan! I use a similar set up with the Morning Glory and the Wampler Tumnus. I also got the idea from Josh and I was quite shocked when I first tried it. The Centaur circuit does a great classic hard rock sound when paired with the Morning Glory or any other Bluesbreaker style circuit.
Thanks glad to hear it! :-)
Wow! Nailed it!! KA tone all day long! Would not have thought those 2 pedals would do it.
Thanks! I really didn’t expect that either. Really Hats off to JHS and J Rockett!
Thanks Johan impressive tone. Love your riffs 😁.
Thanks Paul, glad you like it!
Amazing video as usual ! Cheers from France
Thanks Jerome! Cheers from Gothenburg Sweden!
Chewy goodness great riffs as usual Johan ❤️
Thanks Paul! Great to hear that
Sweet! Those pedals sound amazing. God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸
Thanks J! Glad you like them! Rock on my friend! 🎸👍
Stacking dirt pedals is a great way to get some tones at lower volume. I do it all the time! Sounds great! Has that bite, clarity, and growl. I think this channel may have turned me into a lover of the KISS alive album. Haha!
Hahaha! So good to hear that 🤘
I do this with the Special Cranker into my Princeton. I play psych rock, prog, folk, jazz, and I’m able to get way more versatile sounds this way.
Ooo fun combo! I really want a special cranker they sound incredible!
Wow, that's pretty cool. Great stuff brother
Thanks my friend!
I love that splitting view, by the way great sound👍
Glad to hear that, thanks!
You should run a similar test with a guitar with "vintage" or medium-output pickups installed, ideally ones with tight low-end like the PAF Pros. Super Distortions pickups have a lots low-end that gets cut by these pedals, tightening up the sound before it hits the amp.
Yeah that’s a good idea
Happy New Years Mr. Segeborn!
Happy New Year Nick!
I use a similar set up. Original analogman KOT into a Ryra klone or Frederic effects zombie clone or Tumnas ,epic wall of sound. Happy new year Johan!
Nice set up! Happy New Year Colin!
Just tried it with my MXR Timmy and RYRA, sounded great! Thanks.
Great to hear that!
That is Kiss Alive tone all day! Awesome Johan! When you first started the riff from she I thought it was the record .
Hahaha! Makes my day to hear that!
Great tones that are shockingly good!
Thanks Scott! Glad you like it
No More MR Nice Guy tone! 🤘😎 At least that’s kinda the tone I could hear.
You always make cool videos 👍
Thanks, I love Alice Cooper!
Pretty cool 😎 tones Johan. Cheers from Hawaii. Darrell
Thanks Darrell! Cheers 🎸
Cheers Johan. Ive mention this before but ive boosted a boss DS1 with a tube screamer for a long time. Its a great tone. Into any amp. I recently bought a klon style pedal that I boost the DS1 with. Theres so many great tones available just by mixing drives
Yeah and the main thing is to find a combination that supports the particular players style of playing. Cheers!
Great sounds. Also the DiMarzio Super Distortion is one of the best sounding pickups around......STILL. Great video.
Totally agree, particularly the early 70s DiMarzios are very distinctive.
Thanks! Yeah the SD has a unique growl to it that I haven’t been able to find elsewhere
@@JohanSegeborn That's true. I have a pair of DiMarzios in a 90s Les Paul, They are from the very early 70s.A Super Distortion in the bridge, and a PAF in the neck. I'm pretty sure Larry hand made these at home, before they went commercial.
Sounds Great. Nice Job.
Thanks Joshua!
I used to gig without using any pedals using my Fender 57 tweed Twin reissue or tweed Blues Deluxe. I'd crank them to about 8 and get that glorious power tube overdrive and I'd place a few gig bags in front of the amp to dampen the volume to not blast the audience and it worked great. But I gig 5 nights a week and I got tired of always bringing my amp to the shop every few months to repair a blown speaker or replace the worn tubes or whatever other issue occurred due to the amp being pushed so hard every night. Nowadays I gig with the volume on 2 and leave an Ibanez 808 reissue always on (gain set to maximum,tone at 1 o'clock and volume even with the amp)and get a great 'cranked' sound at a much more reasonable volume for bar gigs and my amps have no issues except for the occasional tube change every few years. Unless you're someone like Angus Young who can afford to crank the amp up every night and have it serviced every day it doesn't make sense for a working musician to be cranking their amp like that night after night unless you don't mind paying for the frequent issues that will inevitably arise from such hard use.
My 70s Marshalls have held up pretty well despite abuse but many other amps has to go the tech pretty frequently
Another one to try is the Walrus Harvester!
Now I feel even better about my Ceriatone Horsebreaker (Klon/BB combo pedal)!
Glad to hear it!
Hell yah that’s love the Archer Ikon
Cheers David
Best channel on youtube
So glad to hear that! Cheers
I have the demonfx 83 drive which i believe is this setup in a tin 😄
Since being able to afford tube-based amps and having a place to play them at roughly the volume needed to hit their sweet spot, I have been biased (no pun intended) towards relying on the amp for tone and have shunned pedals. However, as my 90s / 2000s era amps age and begin suffering reliabilty issues, it is becoming harder to find new amps that can get the desired tone and still be reliable. Reverting to a model that focuses on clean amplification and pedals in front for dirt / crunch / cream / effects etc. is looking more practical. This demo seems to confirm that someone with your ears who has previously extracted great tone / pick attack from amps "the old fashioned way" can get identical results from pedals speaks volumes (pun intended.) Spending more than $2000 on some boutique tube amp is really insane at this point.
Yeah I think the gear has to deliver in a predictable and logistically effective way in order to produce musical results on a regular basis.
Hi Johan, great job as always !
Could you make a video testing the tone master amplifiers?
Thanks! Yeah definitely after the tone Josh got out of it!
This works with other pedals too. Putting an overdrive in front of a distortion gives insane sustain, but also some noise because of the gain.
Yeah, I’ve had a couple of suggestions of combinations here in the comments that we can compare
Its a good tone, and would mix well I think. It is a bit thin on the bottom end though - even through EV's which have excellent bass.
Thanks, I think the pedals cuts quite a bit off bass.
I use same combo with any set up , modeling or amps. I need a killer SG!
Yeah SG is the ultimate rock’n’roll tool
sweet playing Johan - great way to ring in 2025 🤘
Thanks man! 🤘
In 1978 I was 16 and my grandmother came home with a brand new Yamaha G-100 2x12. Super clean so I put a LPB-1 into a MXR distortion + and the rest is history. She did hate the 100 watts…. Lmao
Hahaha! Those old Yamahas sound great
In the bedroom, overdrive pedals into a clean amp are ideal. At gig volumes, too much overdrive doesn't work, however, as the sound gets lost in the mix. But: an _almost_ clean, very boosted OD pedal into a clean amp is excellent. I use a Boss BD-2 (in conjunction with the guitar's controls), but I'm sure others would be just as good.
Yeah if you want lots of overdrive the amp headroom and speakers need to be able to handle it.
Tube screamer pushing a morning glory is also an awesome tone.
Check out the JHS Double Barrel for those tones. Great combo. I have an odd ball...Double Barrel with the Sweet Tea colorway. Never seen another one like it.
"She" might be my favorite Kiss song. Awesome tone pretty much nails it 🤘
Thanks! Among my favourites too. It does have the best guitar tone of any song to me. The ultimate benchmark
Tinnitus inducing tone! Where are those ear defenders, Johan?
Hahaha! This is at pretty low volume actually
This is great. I would love to hear it with a strat through this rig!
Thanks glad to hear it! That will be coming up soon. I’m gonna combine the seminal pedals with all my guitars and speakers the coming months here on the channel. I’m building a reference pedalboard right now.
I run a KTR into a KoT and it's an epic combination. I know you have to wait years for a KoT but it's so worth it!!!!
Cool, I have to check them out. I knew of Analogman but not that pedal
waitlist is 4-5 years to get one so I recommend you get on the list - I have both the KTR and KoT and it I had to choose only one I'd go KoT all the way. It becomes a pedal you can't live without pretty quickly. I have 3 from the last 15 years of signing up and waiting and if you ever want to borrow one I'd be ok sending to you to demo.
You’re right this sounds really good! Speaking of drives, Johan have you ever tried a Poewerboost/Overdriver type pedal? I’ve always thought that would make an amazing video.
Thanks! Do you have any examples of such pedals I could look for?
@ thanks for the response and absolutely! If I had to pick one I’d say a Tru-Fi Colordriver 18V I’d look for. Can’t confirm this, but it’s suppose to be pretty darn close to the original Colorsound Overdriver pedals back in the day. Either way it sounds fantastic! Kind of gives you that between fuzz and overdriven sound (think Leslie West, Jimmy Page or Jeff Beck) and it cleans up like a Fuzz Face off the volume knob. Seems like something you’d enjoy after quite a bit of your content haha.
This is how Distortion pedals were used back in the 80’s. To change a clean sounding amp into a 2 channel amp.
I still do it that way.
@@2DclanSnipingTeam me too! And with pedals you can get whatever distortion sound you want, while dirty channels in amp usually have one or two sounds.
@ontario. True, but this route is even older than that going back to the 70s and even 60s with devices like treble boosters and the Electroharmonix LPB1 which some players used two of in series as they were fairly low gain boosts.
The audience track sold it for me. Sounds so good haha.
Thanks! 😂
JHS logo is the Kansas City, Missouri municipal logo, representing the many fountains in Kansas City, Mo. It makes me proud to see my city’s logo, where I was born, on these JHS pedals and in the thumbnails of TH-camrs I like
Cool, I didn’t know that!
It does kinda look like that, but there's a JHS video where Josh says the Morning Glory logo is a roman candle firework.
HNY Johan! Rock ON in '25! \m/
Happy New Year DMS!
@@JohanSegeborn 👍
Ok, still a Marshall in there so all hope is not lost 😅❤
Cheers Andy! ❤️ I’m so glad you’re commenting on the channel. I watched so many of your great videos before I started the channel.
This has ALWAYS worked! \m/
This is the way.
It even gives the little cough-chirp sound from the edge of the pick!
Yeah very detailed crisp tone
One of my favorit pedal driven tones it EP booster into the Ceriatone Centura Klon clone. My most often driven sound is Centura into the Gladio DC.
There is almost no way to play as loud enough to get real amplifiers to overdrive way they should. I have had a session in the rehearsal room to test 3 of my amplifiers.
40, 50 and 80 Watt amplifiers. They were just insane loud especially the 80 Watt one. Already with a half stack it becomes unpleasantly loud until it gets to overdrive fully. But that is because that amplifier has been designed to have huge headroom. Still it has to overdrive nice and musically.
So in the most of the situations amplifier is clean or at the edge of the breakup and something is pushing it creating the overall gain texture.
If it sounds awesome why would someone care how do you get there?
Yeah indeed and the more practical the setup the better it is. Cheers
@JohanSegeborn BTW, awesome combination. I get why you have chosen EVM 12L. No give and all headroom. So that all compression and gain structure is from the pedals. That is stepping out of the comfort zone of beautiful Greenback breakup in 4x12 when driven hard. I get it to emulate it you didn't want speakers to do no heavy lifting.
I rarely push the volume on my speakers past the loud talking stage. Compression, EQ and gain staging make more of a difference in my exoeruence.
Yeah louder volume is mostly important when you record from a distance
Tone was on point! How many dB was it in the room?
Thanks! It was pretty quiet actually. Definitely under 100 dB
Never liked Kiss but this did sound excellent. Ever tried a Treble booster into a Rat at low gain? Imho a low gain Rat is one of the very best ways to emulate a cranked tube amp with a pedal. Overdrive pedals usually just don't have that hard edge/attack and harmonics you get from a tube amp but distortion pedals do.
Thanks! I bought a Rat the other day and waiting for it to arrive. I’m gonna try that
@@JohanSegeborn Cool, looking forward! I think it's so underrated for it's lower gain, i.e. classic rock kind of sounds. Has more mids that way too and sits so well in a mix.
Does sound great! I've tried this approach about 1000 times and I can never get the sound as good as amp cranked (to my ears anyway). I'll try again. What gain level is the Archer on?
Thanks, the Archer gain is at 75%
NIce I have both pedals!
Cheers :-)
If it sounds good, then IT IS GOOD.
Yeah it’s indeed that simple!
I always hear audience backtrack in my head when i am riffing.
😂🤘
Swap the Klon-type for a DOD 250-type next time, I’ve been having fun with that lately too
Interesting, will try that!
Johan do u prefer the Weber to the THD Hotplate or Marshall Powerbreaker? I remember you compared the Hotplate to the Powerbreaker
Hi, out of those I prefer the Power Break
How loud the amp was? Bedroom volume clean amp and stage volume clean amp are very different things and the magic is in power amp anyways
It was pretty quiet, definitely under 100 dB
Not surprising. The Klon was designed with the intent of getting you to that 'cranked' zone better than any overdrive before it.
Even in the late 80s, which iirc is when Finnegan began his journey, clubs weren't necessarily into ear bleeding decibel levels.
For regular guys, as much as I LOVE a cranked Marshall, it's silly to have to go straight to Meadowlands volume levels just to "sound like yourself."
Be curious to see you try out some Tech 21 Character pedals - particularly the British, Oxford, and Leeds. JFET goodness!
Yeah I can do a video with a couple of Klons including the original with a bunch of overdrives to investigate what contributes with what. I think the tone of Morning glory showcased at the end was killer
@JohanSegeborn Brian Wampler seems to not be a believer in Le Magic Diode, as the Tumnus doesn't have one on purpose.
Then you have the Mosky Golden Horse, which does. Through Hole construction on that one single component.
I don't think you can go very wrong with any of them - the originals are like Dumbles, seasoned to taste for the buyer.
I had a Joyo Tauren, loved it. Their R series pedals are really something, with the disco lights & all that.
Klons are just great pedals - great clean boost, great dirt, and a near infinite combination of the two at various points in the middle.
People still treat them like they did in the 2000s when no Klones yet existed - I don't care that the original is 4 figures because collectability, the circuit is just classic and useful.
Has that *sauce.*
I'm guessing this tone can be had at lower volume levels?
Yeah absolutely
I hear cheering when I play KISS Alive licks
NUX queen of tone is a dual pedal with bluesbreaker and klon sides. Hmmm.
Cool, I wonder if that pedal delivers this sound. The Morning glory is inspired by the blues breaker but it has a shimmer to it that I haven’t heard elsewhere and that I think is key to retaining the openness of the amp. Pedals usually kill that
i think with the ev itsound to sterile if you want mid scoop use g12-65 or g12t75 or g12 80
65 and 80 are actually pretty middy. T75 mud scooped. And EVM12L has the fullest frequency response of all speakers I’ve tried
Screamer type into klon type is awsome. Also klon into rat type..
Finally I'll break out the Ole rat into the hm2 to destroy the speakers....
Cool! I’m gonna try those too. I’ll brace myself before I do that last one though 😂
@@JohanSegebornfor me the most flexible is a 3 pedal setup. I’ve used this approach for many years.
Pedal 1 is some sort of boost or pedal set to be a boost. I like using a TS or Klon.
Pedal 2 is a low/medium gain drive. I like using a Nobels, Prince of Tone, Lightspeed
Pedal 3 is a higher gain drive. I like using a Rat
Pedal 2 on for overdrive. Pedal 1 boosted into pedal 2 for lower gain solos
Pedal 3 on for higher gain drive. Pedal 1 boosted into pedal 2 for higher gain solos.
Gives you 4 distinct voices and you can set the amount of volume or drive boost you want depending on how you set pedal 1. I generally like to keep gain low and volume a bit above unity.
Try it out!
@@dansomerville what's cool about the Morning Glory is that you can add another footswitch to engage a boost within the pedal.
My setup is similar to yours, but with just the morning glory + extra footswitch running into a Rat (TC Magus Pro but it's basically a Rat). I keep the morning glory on low gain but can engage the boost when I need it.
I thought Paul Stanley never used pedals, he just went straight into his Marshall?
Yeah Kiss was most likely mostly straight into the amp. The cool thing about this pedal combination is that it sounds close to the sound of a cranked Marshall
You never actually compare the pedals to a cranked amp. But no, they sound like pedals, and not the most convincing amp tone. The diode clipping, can of bees thing is definitely happening here.
It actually sounds similar to most of my videos, where the amp is bringing the distortion. This is actually one of my closest attempts at the early Kiss guitar tone. But tone is subjective. This is indeed a really bright tone.
Must agree with APMT . I hear a little fizness probably in blind test i wont hear it m maybe we hear with eyes?
@@JimiHendrixEXI don’t think it sounds bad, but it isn’t exactly the same as a cooking Marshall!
I bought a Mesa instead
Is this paid promotion for JHS
No why do you say that?
Not with him using one JHS out of 2 pedals. Archer is by J Rockett and JHS only sells the Notaklon in kit form.
lol, like JHS needs paid promotion at this point. GTFOH with that noise. Johan isn't a slave to sponsors like most other channels.
@@bjhvapes2703 the 2 titans of making cheap gear expensive, lol
@bjhvapes2703 go suck on a vape will ya ?
No.