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I get my hands on the brand new BMW 1 series, more specifically the 118i. I soon realise this little (slightly odd looking) hatch is rather compelling and makes a strong case for itself over the previous fun but compromised F series 1.
This video was literally shot in 30 mins, time and weather were against me so please excuse the quality of the video!
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Thank you for the review, I'm considering the 118i M as my daily commute car. Informative, laid back and helpful.
Joe your honesty really goes a long way to your followers & probably why we like watching your vlogs, some are buttering up this new 1 Series like it's better.. I think the 118 looks & drives great for what it is, it's quite steep for 27k but a really great package.. 👍🏻 I think there will be a big market for this car, also great to hear you have another channel mate 👍🏻😉
Great video! Loved to see you review a lesser model, would love to see more of these.
Excellent video, really informative! I’ve just bought the 118i with nothing like that amount of extras! I got the auto gear box, privacy windows, heated Steering wheel and Strorm Bay Grey! Getting excited now! First BMW I’ve ever owned and several post suggest this car had been ruined now that it’s front Wheel Drive???? I found it to be a great drive for my requirements!!
Finally a review that shows the sunroof. Ordered one of these but nobody could show me a car with a sunroof (which i ordered) but now i have seen it, it looks ok. Great review!
15:00 Reverse Park Assist. 😮😮 Brilliant 👍👍
Thank you for demo’ing this. 👍
Another awesome vid Joe, we feel this one has a lot of tuning potential as well as the M135i!!
The 118i feels better and makes sense because this is the spec the new 1-series was designed for.. The 135i has no real right to exist anymore now the biggest fun factors (6-cylinder and RWD) are removed for that enthousiasts version.. Now It's just a hot hatch that offers nothing special anymore over it's competitors..
The M135i was positioned to compete against the Golf R and Audi S3. Those are not the most exciting cars either. The new M2 coupe will be still RWD + 6 cil powered and will be the new compact beast. Which is fine by me.
Brother you show yourself more in video then the car...is this your review or car´s review? please show us more car too...we came to see the car...
Joe - "Hey BMW, Play Coldplay."
BMW - "Fuck off."
Thanks man comprehensive vid right here I know what to expect if I ever manage to buy one lol
Love your videos. Keep them coming
I bought a 2018 1 series 125i Msport because i wanted a rear wheel drive car. Previously had a 1990 Celica 2.0i which lasted 25 years, followed by a Seat Ibiza black. The beamer is the best car i have ever had... I intend to keep it for some time.
This car has grown on me! Dayummnn
Just picked up the 118i M sport with M Sport Pro Pack for my work daily and I’m in love with it 😅
Audi, BMW and Mercedes. Remember to order the windscreen wipers. I’m always loosing my breath configuring these cars. Thanks
That limo was so, so classy 👍😂
Just ordered the 118i m sport only option I ticked was the storm bay metallic paint delivery September
Adaptives are only option on the four cyl. models AFAIK. And yes, I also noted the delay when going full throttle in comfort mode, it was quite a disappointment bc I thought BMWs automatics were always amazing. The old 8 spd steptronic in the F20 118 certainly didnt respond so lazy. However, I found that when you put either the car in sport mode or the gearbox in S (or both) things improve a lot and its workable. Still definitely not a strongpoint tho, and I suprised me none of the reviewers noted it. The 7 DCT seems to have been developed to cut cost over the 8 speed full auto and NOT as a real improvement, and this is where it shows.. Maybe it can be fixed with new software from tuning companies??
I know you don't really like the Bridgestone runflats Joe but if they are the S001's they really are very good for a runflat. So much better than the Pirelli PZero runflats which feel as though the suspension has been removed and live up to their name under 7 or 8 degrees (and in damp conditions) by having Zero grip. I agree that the Michelin PS4's would be much better but for the average punter buying this kind of car the Bridgestone S001's do a really good job in all conditions.
The cars looks grow on you. Just have to spec it right. Good luck with the new channel joe.
Thank you buddy ❤️
Thank you for this awesome review, would it be possible for you to do the same review but on the facelift version?
I actually love those wheels!
Joe! What are your feelings on this after a year? I am really considering on buying one. Thanks mate.
Excellent choice in music Joe. I’m a big fan of Coldplay👌🏽
There appears to be alot of miserable, negative and jealous people on here. Thanks for the well thought out, insightful video. i own one of these 118i m class. I made sure it had the blue calipers, upgraded sound system and you forgot to discuss the rear back centre fresh air vent. This is not included which I made sure I got.
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Great content, informative and honest....can't understand why people are jumping up and down about list price, it's makes perfect sense on a PCP.... smaller monthly payments than a Vauxhall Astra...what's not to like!!
I wouldn’t get a car like this on PCP, why pay so so much more?
I got the 118i all I can say what nice car 🙌
Interstingly read that the Chassis Head Designer for the new 1 said it works best in this model..........thanks for another Vid Joe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,another thought your in a £38k car (options) once the M340i 20-25% discounts kick in there wont be too much in it money wise.................also your a big lad looking at that steering wheel imagine a petite ladys hands???
Useful video. Looking at the trade-in value of 'late' previous models - they are now being hit due to this launch, (or it may be the economic climate!). I agree this looks a better proposition to the new M135i.
Here in Australia the price of a fully optioned 2020 118i estimated to cost as much as an A250 or A3 hatch. Not too sure on this one BMW.
I've just driven both of these and to my mind the 118i Msport was way better on small technical (fun) roads, I'm sure this is down to the weight of the 118i - it's about 200Kg less!! The M135i only made cense to me as a small luxury car with a very powerful engine.
In Portugal, the 118i comes as standard with the 7 speed auto with paddles
Enjoyed this. Paddles also aren't available on the MINI with the B38 engine and 7 speed dual clutch box. In fact, they're not available on all specs of the Cooper S with the B48 engine either. Only Sport and Exclusive trims.
Thank you, literally turned the camera on and started talking 😂 Interesting to hear about the Mini's and lack of paddles too!!! Cheers man
Next video: I am getting 2020 M135I :D The prices got out of reach. Loaded m-sports diesel is near 45k in Slovenia, that is just sick! And it seems like they are budget cutting big time with those gearboxes! Other than interior the F20 is still better.
Crackin vid Joe 👍
Thank you
Finally up to 2013 A3 levels of quality & luxury
Anthony Farnan lol ikr. The new A3 coming soon is gonna make that BMW outdated
Sat in the very same model in a showroom on saturday. The interior is very nice. The exterior not so.The 1.5 three banger is a cracking engine.
great video buddy 👌
Congrats on the new channel… A good laugh… By the way, quick question; what are the origins of the your family name Achilles?
Joe and all, how much room behind you when you are in the drivers seat? I am 6ft 5.
What package do the big brakes come in? Im looking for one here in Sweden and I cant find any 118i what so ever with the bigger brakes.
Hi Joe, happened that I own a F20 118i and a Mini Cooper, both with the same engine, here mi thoughts.
Transmission, the mini cooper has the same tranny as the F40 118i, 7 speed DCT from GETRAG and the F20 118i has the ZF8 and I can feel how different they are, the kick down in the DCT is slower and the ZF feels punchier and smooth.
Drive, recently took the entry level F20 118i with same B38 engine and ZF-8 in a hill climb road trip, and let me say that driving fast a slow car is very fun, with all nannies off and sport mode engaged I can feel how the rear moves and “dance” trough the corners, the car turns beautifully and flow in the winding roads as natural as it can be.
Same drive with the mini cooper same engine but 7 speed DCT, also feel fun but different, the mini cooper “hug” trough the corners and grips very tight, no dance no flow just grip and grab the tarmac, fun, yes but different from the RWD 118i with the same engine.
So even the entry level F20 118i with RWD and ZF-8 brings a great driving experience from my perspective.
The ZF 8-speed also has a lag, when you press the gas pedal right after you have just stopped pressing the brake pedal to slow down, it is not 2-3 second lag, but it is noticeable (maybe 0,5sec). Nevertheless, the ZF is a fantastic gearbox.
Couldn't agree more I'm in the same boat owning an F20 118i and I think it's great not the fastest thing ever but quicker that most things on the road and down a tight backroad it's a lot of fun as much as I'd like to have a M140i I think it would just get me in trouble and cost too much haha hopefully one day tho
I think the awnser we are all looking for is revise the interior on the old m140i and allow uk buyers an xdrive version if they want it like they already do in other country’s? Problem solved?....
This configuration in this car I totally get!, but the 135i.... well... I won’t say it as it’s been said a million times now
Subacribed mate , good luck with the new channel
Thanks buddy 👊
I still think it’s ugly as hell, but I definately agree that this model makes more sense than the M135i, which is underpowered and overpriced!
Looks aside (I like it personally), m135i underpowered with 306 brake, 450nm torque plus and 0-60 in 4.8 seconds? Still a great car to drive and very quick I can tell you from borrowing one for a couple of days
The 118i makes sense.... but having had a e87 118d with a stage 1 map previous to my mk5 GTI... I can confirm that without doubt the 118i had more thrill and fun factor to it other than the engine... it was fun, had good steering, excellent driving position and the rear wheel feel... that can’t be beaten... my mk5 GTI doesn’t give me the same thrill. Yes it’s faster, yes it sounds better and yes it grips way more but it doesn’t have the thrill a 118d with a power hike gave me... perosnally
I think the most thrill factor of older BMWs is the hydraulic servo steering and they had a rougher suspension too in basic versions. I was really shocked switching from a 150hp E46 to a F20 125d with basic suspension, I find the new one very boring to drive, also the steering is very fluffy. Don't expect the old dynamic drive feel on modern BMWs. If you buy a new one make a test drive for checking out if you need a performance package for the fun factor.
That’s an awful lot of money. Even speccing half the options (which many are needed). Mid £32/33k is mad.
What's the reasoning behind using a different auto gearbox than the M135i? I think I'm right in saying all of the F20 autos had a ZF gearbox. It's pretty confusing to be honest.
M sport trim car and you don’t get paddles? What’s the point paying for the many “M” packages.. I like the car but that’s so odd.
We have just bought a 2021 BMW 1 Series 118i M-Sport in Storm Bay metallic, with 14,000 miles.
It has a list of 18 optional extras added as it used to belong to a BMW UK employee.
It’s a really nice car, both inside & out😍
Well done BMW!❤️
Great cars, I’m looking at a storm bay 118d tomorrow. Gotta say it’s likely your car was a rental. BMW register them and lease them to hire companies and they get deflated at 14000 miles. It will still be a great car but I just wish bmw would be honest about the history of their nearly new cars.
@@lanehogger1532 ….its a possibility, but hire cars are not normally looked after like this one was. I’m 99% sure it was owned by a BMW Rep based in Yorkshire. It is literally unmarked inside & out, including the 19” upgraded alloys. It’s like a new car, plus over £800 worth of servicing done.
Brand new it was just over £35,000.
3:12 Glad you raised this issue. I got the automatic with manual shift but no steering wheel paddles. Bad UX design.
In norway the base price of the 118i is 35000 euro and the M135i is 65000 euro 😅 Think i would buy a 118i manual and put downpipe and a tune on it👌
Engine and drivetrain aside it’s definitely a forward step in technology, I have an LCI2 140i and my New Vauxhall Van has more tech, not that I see driving aids as a good thing, try changing lanes and the van tries to correct you, maybe because I’m not using the indicators while doing so but indicators on a motorway are useless and I’m not in the habit of using them in the BMW.
The reverse assist is genius. I have a decent length driveway which bends at the end and reversing out in the cold dark mornings is a real pain - but no longer. Will never grow old!
This new generation of 1 series I think is a much better car, if you are just looking at it in terms of being a car, not as a BMW etc.
Still I think if it was my money I think would buy the equivalent Mercedes A-Class
The GtiR, Civic R and A45 is 2l 4cylinder, what’s the problem??
the all new fod focus 2020
38,000 pound car with 138bhp 😮😮
not everyone buys car for power, you need to remember that
Thks,nice to hear your comments.
Thanks for your time and support as always ❤️
I guess BMW will finally find out what percentage of 1-series buyers bought them because they were good to drive, and what percentage bought them because of the BMW badge ;) The first car I bought with my own money was a 2004 BMW 120i - it was the best new-ish rear wheel drive car I could afford, and it got me hooked on the BMW brand. I don't think these new cars will have the same pull on young buyers who actually enjoy driving... assuming such people still exist?
BMW have done the research and found that something like 70-80% of 1 series drivers didn't even release that their car war RWD and most of the rest didn't care. Only 3% of 1 series sold have been M135/M140i models and even some of those folks aren't RWD fanatics. So BMW figured that 97% of 1 series owners would prefer more cabin and boot space rather than a car that losses traction in the winter.I love my M135i but my driveway is on a slope as soon as there is even a light smattering of snow i'm stuck it will not even nearly get up the drive but my daughters FWD Leon Cupra will breeze up it no problem.
@@voivod6871 I am sure you are right, still sad for the 1% of us that love RWD cars, or even proper 4 wheel drive cars without a front wheel bias.
As for snow I've had two rear drive BMWs and one GT86, no issues in Norwegian winters with proper tires, but on some pilot sports you'll certainly get stuck, no doubt.
Voi Vod best just to get a set of second hand OEM alloys with decent winters already on them. I have xdrive and even I struggled on the snow with my summer run flats on.
Hey Joe, I'm looking for this car long time ago, and here in Spain, we get paddles as standard with the 118i so I just think that there in the UK is not even possible to get it for some kind of reason that BMW want not to telling us. Maybe because there are some option differences.
Ahh that is strange... BMW UK say that paddles will be an option soon over here, I hope so because I missed having them 👌
BMW are teaching us here in the UK a lesson, because of Brexit. Available everywhere else in Europe as standard 🤪
What is better folks, 2 wheels drive with winter tyres or xDrive with summer?
Good video Joe.
But price is becoming a real problem.
I paid nearly the same price for... a M140i. Are they kidding?
Oops, I forgot, big screen, electric boot, reversing system, etc...Now it's all about stupid options...
I would take more options and tech than the engine in the 140i
What sort of MPG does this give?
Only things is when you pay 27k for a car like this you expect some of these “ good “ options as standard ! It mean most people will have to spend like 4K on options if not more 😳
I drove both 118i and M135i yesterday. I was kinda disappointed with M135i. Not the fun driving experience I was looking for.
that's what we want from a you tube presenter "I'm not going to make much effort"
Ridculously expensive for a 118, although I guess people will buy it... that reversing assist is impressive but completely pointless, I can't work out what I'd use it for :D
Wow that's silly money a brand new decent spec m240i cost me only 31k
2:28 The new 118i has a 1.5 3 cylinder engine. So did the old 118i. Not sure why people treat this as something new. Coming soon - the 330i isn't a 6 cylinder any more? Ummm the old one wasn't either.
If it was a 135i with £11k worth of options coming to £37k then yeah but on a 118i it’s a big no.
Josh really doesn’t matter unless you pay cash which no one does.
£38k for an 140bhp 3cyl generic hatchback, that makes the £70k Renault Megane RS Trophy R the bargain of the century!
I might have guessed you were a fan of Coldplay.
You have totally true with everything, if i had had a M135, i wound take off the grill from it and put one form normal 1 series. :D
I must be sick or something, I love it 😍
not the only one haha, i brought one myself, i put my opinion over everyone elses, i love it, to many purists worrying about the 1 series, they are great entry level BMW's i had a F20 118i and part exed it for this F40 118i, no regrets
You’re not sick, I’m looking at this very model for my next car, and although the looks have been slated, I actually like it, although the M Sport trim for me, is a must. It may look like a Ford Focus, but Ford’s interiors are crap, compared to the Teutonic class leaders. I even looked at the focus vignale, which is similarly priced, with the 1.5 eco boost engine. Considering the Ford’s 42 bop gain, performance is almost identical, and the interior of the beemer, is far superior. Had a 120d in 2013, and BMW’s customer service was way, way better than Fords. I know where my money is going, but each to their own and all that.
@@simonmellor4028 Indeed
@@BenM388 That's great to hear, glad you like it
Daniel 1 you are sick as hell, get yourself a Doctor. 🤷🏻♂️
Wait.... a dual clutch gearbox?! I thought dual clutch gearboxes where not long for this world. So confused 😂 and the new 135 has a slush box.. seems backwards
As a driver's car - the 1 series is dead ... But when the old M135i came out - we never had the 2 series .... Drivers now have the 2 series, and families have a proper 1 series
James Hibbert Great point. And probably the reason why Bmw went the way they did,pushing more people to the m2.
Hello ,what is this car's colour name?
I kid you not, I'm about to buy this exact BMW from my local dealership. Just saw this video a day before I purchase it. What are the chances??
Haha no way!!! That is awesome, genuinely loved my couple hours with it 👌
BMW should recall all the new M135i immediately and re launch a new version M140i with optional xdrive so its faster than RS3 and A45 ..
RS3 is different class, it competes with M2 Competition.
This version makes sense as everyday hum drum transport. I’m a BMW fan but I’d take the new A Class over this because to me this inside and out looks like every other small hatch. At least the merc has a wow factor interior and a more distinct exterior. I think I might go and take my manual m135 for a spin!
Have to agree re: alloys. They look so much better than the m135i’s. Wonder how they’d look on the pre lci
I'm assuming they will be a different fitment to the old F series car
Hm, I think I'd go for the 120i 4-cylinder. Maybe even with the base analog gauges, I've seen them at my dealer (in a 118i) and I like them more than the LCD.
@@Hiluxtaco You can get the analog gauges even in the Z4 M40i in Germany since July. But you can't order the Navi, HUD or Harman Kardon then. Because if you order any of these, they bundle the digital gauges with that and you lose the analog gauges.
@@Hiluxtaco Also with analog gauges these kind of bugs can't happen: www.motor-talk.de/bilder/tacho-laubsaegevariantespinnt-g81945702/-jpg-i209654769.html
Ps what is "enhanced bluetooth"? as opposed to just "Bluetooth"? Anyone know exactly what that means?
more than one device can connect
@@Iveness922 thanks
Good looking car
Fabulous video Joe
Actually looked at a M135i at Sytner BMW Harold Wood
Really nice 👍
Cannot wait to test drive 👍
Sorry £11000 of options🤪
You would be crazy to spend that on a 1 series
Haha thanks buddy, yeah over 37k for a 118i is hilarious 😂
Joe Achilles
That’s more than I’d pay for a 135i 👍
Oh well! Load them up for the test drives I suppose
Im yet to see one of these on the road. Whereas everywhere i go i see the new a class. Bmw has let itself down it seems.
A F but this car was only launched 2 weeks at dealerships ago
As Nathi says, this car was launched less than 10 days ago in the UK, the current A class has been around for about a year, what a ridiculous comment 😂
Perhaps I should of worded this better but what i meant was as soon as the new a class was out i saw them everywhere... its not been the same with the new 1 series
£38,000... I'd rather stick £25k into an M140i and spend the rest on running costs!
Exactly
Who in thier right mind would spend 11k of options on a 3 cylinder car... Also base price should be 22 not 27 imo
Its 24000 27000 is for the m sport 118i auto
The original first ever M135i cost just £29,995... how has a 118i become £27k??!!
27k + 11k options. 😂😂😂
All cars cost more now. Relatively speaking it is not 1 to one but still more expensive. Caused by many things. More tech, more regulations etc. Basically the market/goverment has become more demanding. Cars need to do all that the old cars did, but better and more. All while being safer and less fuel consuming. Of course things are going to be more expensive. Also taxes. Here in The Netherlands prices are mostly based on emissions. This a well equipped 118i cas easily go above 40000 Euros or even reach 50000. An m135i starts at 60000 here. So you still have it relatively well there.
How can you compair this to the 135i i dont get
a) Because they are both 1 series b) because it's my channel
Style over substance - they'll sell plenty in Brighton.
I drove this car for a few hours. Vibration fed back through the seat. Cornering was floaty. You get the harder ride of M Sport but surprisingly without the benefit of agile handling.
In 2013 I bought a new 120d M Sport 8 speed sports auto. It was far better than this car. Agile, nippy enough (7 secs), frugal if I wanted it to be (65-70mpg on motorways). It was a great little car. The only car in the new range that may make sense is the 120d xDrive M Sport.
Subscribed mate, waiting for my feature 😬
LivingLifeFast My man 👊🏻
First i thought it was a Focus !!
Why does the uk always get those bloody awful dakota leather seats.
Looking forward to the new channel !!
Can you please cover why there’s so many Tosser’s driving in London, I do 35/40mph in 30mph zones during the night, and people drive right up my arse and go past looking at me like I was doing 15mph.
Uber drivers should be banned, London buses drive like lunatics when out of service and going home, and the most annoying of all is why are ambulances so slow ? They are forever behind me blinding me.
Rant over
Some great subjects to discuss on the new channel 👌
£27K with £11K options 😑 So £38K (read £40K) for an underpowered 3cyl 1.5? For comparison the 1.5 ltr 3cyl Ford EcoBoost is 210ps with 300nm. Why did you give the New A1 such a hard time? At least it has a 150hp 4-pot for £21-25K - This just feels biased again. Because it’s a BMW you seem so sympathetic... 💁🏻♂️
Looks like a Ford Focus!