Huge respect for not only doing this on your own but filming it at a professional level too! Look forward to your videos every Friday and learning so much from them. Cheers!
Super luxury that lift is Stuart. I remember whilst being a labourer during the early eighties, having to balance the plasterboard on my head and attempting to hammer nails through to fix. Very painful and always getting shouted at. Great job you're doing there.
Thank you. I've had some comments about not using a lift and just balancing them on your head etc. I don't think until you've done it you realise how painful and difficult it is! You may get them up but not necessarily in the place you want them!
You’re literally working through my to do list, so now I have no excuse to have to ‘research how to do them’! Putting a ceiling in my garage has been on my mind for ages. Need to get my lighting sorted, then can get to plasterboarding and now I know how! Brilliant videos Stuart!
Excellent video again. I done exactly the same to my garage. When I fitted the loft hatch, I cut the square out on the plasterboard before fitting to roof. I found it easier to do this on the ground rather than looking up and cutting, also alot cleaner. Look forward to next video. I've learnt so much from you.
Hi, In Australia, the back of the sheets are glued to the fixing timber a quarter of the sheet width from the edge. The glue shrinks when dried and pulls the drywall tight to the fixing timber. So, only screws are only required at the edges and along the centerline. On the centerline two screws are used for ceilings. Screws near the glue pop after the glue dries. The glue also prevents sheet movement and screws popping a long time later.
I have done more than my share of sheet rock by hand when I was younger. I had to lift it up by hand and hold it in place while my dad screwed it in place with a manual screw driver, as this was many years ago before these electric screw drivers came out. So doing this by hand without help is a job and a half! 👍👍2 thumbs up!
I highly recommend a plasterboard drywall screwdriver bit to eliminate damage from screwing too deep, countersinking to the perfect depth. I did a lot of damage on my project and of course as always discovered these after the job was complete. Great video as always thanks.
Yes, I'm here just for the free therapy session.... where's the tea and the biscuits?🤣🤣🤣 Jokes apart I like very much your story telling on your videos! Keep it up!
I came across this video while looking at if I needed to beef up the joists before I put a plasterboard ceiling in my garage. Seeing you doing such a great job with just the standard joists has inspired me to stop worrying about it and get on with it.
Stuart, great job mate. You inform and entertain in equal measure and remind me that my mess is not exclusive to me. Work, I love it...I could sit and watch it all day.
Excellent video as ever. Looking forward to the rest in this project as I have my own garage to sort out in 2022 when it warms up a bit. In future videos it would be great if you could include the rough cost of the hire of any equipment used as I think it helps people get an idea of what a job costs and also helps them avoid being ripped off by the hire companies and also help in deciding whether to buy or hire as you have covered in previous videos. Other point I wasn't sure about was whether there was a need to put a vapour barrier on before putting the plaster boards up? I am guessing not as you seem to think about everything before hand. But an explanation as to why it wasn't needed would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the excellent channel videos!
I have no idea whether you’ve done the job yet or what but there is a cheaper way to put boards up on the ceiling by using some lengths of timber and cutting tees to wedge it in place.
I boarded my whole house on my own. Using a plasterboard lifter. Had it 10years. I used it just last weekend to help with a coffered ceiling I’ve built in my living room. It’s a brilliant tool. I think I paid £220 10’years ago.
Mr. Stuart, The plasterboard lifter you introduced in the video is really amazing! Thank you for the valuable sharing. Your videos have widen my horizon in home DIY. I have introduced your channel to all my friends who have relocated in the UK. Stay safe during the pandemic and best wishes from Hong Kong, Chris Lai
I liked the reveal of the Proper DIY logo as you lifted the drywall sheet to the ceiling! You put so much effort into your videos. (Also, I do the same thing when I measure - I keep repeating the number to myself out loud until I cut the damn thing. Wife thinks I'm mental.)
Here in Canada we staple up poly (vapor barrier) and then lay the insulation on it. In very warm/humid climates I believe they poly outside the insulation. Not sure about your climate but, are you not worried about moisture/rot in the ceiling?
Excellent videos. Relaxed, calm but most importantly you address each and every stage and explain things brilliantly, passing on the key practical advice we all look for. Well done. Keep going! Solo full sheet plaster boarding above head height was a challenge and a half but superbly done!
OMG!!! Everything you said was spot on, especially since I'm doing this right now, only difference is I'm using OSB in my shop. Only thing I will add if your not use to "hard" work you may find you'll have to skip a day or two in between from being so damn sore from using muscles your not use to using to allow yourself to recoup. Unfortunately we're also getting in to negative Celsius weather which is making it almost too cold to do anything in the shop.
You are a mighty man... You put us other blokes never mind diy'ers to shame... Great video as per... Reminds me of when I was 16 got a summer job as a plasters Labourer... Carrying 8x4 sheets up stairs etc.... Toughest job I've ever had...(been a civil servant for the last 25 years 😂😂)
#3 is absolutely essential for good results. Using a lift will cut down on broken sheets, and sore muscles. At the end of the day, you still want to be able to lift your beer. If doing drywall for the first time, you will likely be putting some sheets up and down several times in order to fine tune the fit. Using a lift makes it so much easier and reduces the temptation to force a sheet in place only to break a corner or edge. Now that it's been awhile since you've done the job, is there anyhing you would have done differently, or used another tool? I'm thinking specifically of a drywall screw gun. When properly adjusted, one can just fly along. Sorry for the language barrier, I'm an American. Cheers!
100% agree about tools and general garbage gathering on every flat surface, built my workshop last summer but a bench in now full of tools and clutter. As for dry lining ceilings, I rope my old man as extra pair of hands and about to have to do the master bedroom having done my sons room already!
Stuart - Another good video Yes I am in your tool club Couple of points or thoughts as I do. You may regret boarding it all as some could of been handy storage from below - of course you will of had the job of boxing around that area ! The hatch - think with care where it is located as you don’t want to have to move your bench each time you need to go up there - and trust me you will soon doing that - also if you have long items that you may put up there then sticking the hatch close to a wall or at a low point is no good - obviously you can’t load it too much. Finally I had the same issue one with floor level - so used a 8x4 sheet of hardboard on the floor and moved it around as required - provides as smooth surface for the current task. All the best
Thank you for this, I am just about go do this in my front room. I bought a board lift from Ebay, (will sell it as used on there after) as am a bit of a slow coach. I hope to get a hand to lift the boards as I am not very big. Also, I will be doing to layers of board with green glue in between (as well as insulation). I look forward to see the video on how you finish off.
managed to plasterboard my garage ceiling with two of us doing the lifting and screwing, so wish i hadnt been a cheap skate and got a board lift though after a day of lifting I was sore all over.
Great video. I'm getting ready to do my garage ceiling here shortly. You made the comment about having issues with the screws blowing out on the edges, something that might work better is to wait to do the edges until you have the next piece butted up against it.
Can you please explain why it is, despite my garage already having a ceiling, that I find this video utterly satisfying and enjoyable? Oh yes, I also have tools, jars, cans of paint, drawers of screws and nails etc on every available shelf. Thanks for this one, it was great.
Great job Stuart. Recommend that you eschew the stepladders and get a couple of step-ups and a scaffold board. Gives greater ease and scope for lateral movement , and puts an end to the constant up/down hassle of moving stepladders in small increments, and indeed removes the risk of stepladder overstretch.
@@ProperDIY If you are going to buy a step up I can't recommend enough paying a bit more than the cheaper ones and getting the werner adjustable pro platform. I got mine from a reputable seller on eBay as Wickes were out of stock. It is a bit more currently with most other sellers. It is an absolutely excellent platform that will last a lifetime and I was a bit unsure about needing the adjustable feature but I am so glad I paid the extra for that. There is an excellent review from an American on TH-cam if you search for it. Can't recommend it enough as Duncan said over a stepladder. It's one of those, I wish I bought this years ago, kind of purchases.
Great video Stuart, really detailed and easy to follow along! I had 2 questions if you wouldn't mind: 1. I'm a big lad at 125kg - i noticed you were standing on the rafters/joists of the garage roof when adding the last bit of insulation - the joists in my garage don't seem very thick/rigid and i'm not sure they'd take my weight - but then again if they can support the roof with all the tiles on it then it should support me too? 2. Is there a reason you didn't insulate the triangular/pointy bits of the roof? where the felt lining is. I know its something to do with a warm/cold loft in a house but figured it would make sense to insulate there at the same time as at joist level?
This came a little late - I insulated my garage last week! But I was doing the single-brick walls. I used batons, 100mm poly insulation and OSB board (mainly) over it, as it will have to take weighty tools hanging from the walls, but I would value your thoughts on relative insulation properties of rock wool versus poly sheets. I might have to sort the roof next! Les in Chester
Great video, definitely gave me the kick to board out my garage ceiling. Couldn’t squeeze in a board lift so ended up going old school with an ‘L’ shaped homemade bracket (screwed to opposite side of roof truss for one end of a length and a ladder and long 3x2 that was just long enough with a bit of carpet on the end for bracing. Some really good tips n this video. Definitely some swearing at whoever installed the trusses at slightly less than standard so had to use noggins towards the end of a run as measurements ran out!
Hi Stuart, I liked the video thanks. I'll be starting this job soon in my own garage and I have been planning to use the thick glass wool rolled type insulation (170mm Knauf) but I've noticed most video's like yours are using either rockwool or thinner panel style insultation (mainly for accoustic dampening which I don't require). Just want to check the thicker rolled wool is suitable? Thanks, Dunc.
Absolutly top notch considering your flying solo. Dont know if i missed something as i only fell on your sight today. Im thinking the loft area would of at least doubled up as storage space for your lumber or other miscellaneous things. That said, once your missus finds out theres storage space up there you will be up and down like a yo_yo. Well done sir all the same.
I only started woodwork on Dec 11th.I had no idea communities like this exsisted. Ive not had so much fun since she left. Thanks to all you guys its worth getting
Did you add additional dwangs/noggins? Every guidance I have read says to add them at the edges of the ceilings and every 1.2 for the plasterboard/drywall to have a decent fixing.
Things are certainly a lot easier nawadays. When i first started working with my father 40 years ago we used to make up a t shaped support out of tile batten (called a deadman) slightly taller than the ceiling height. We would then lift the sheet of plasterboard onto our heads and lift it into place. Once in place we would wedge the deadman at one end of the board whilst we nailed the other end in place. It sounds quite tricky but it wasn't once you got the hang of it and I could board a ceiling in no time.
Back in the late 60s early 70s I new a tacker! In those days that’s what the guys who fitted plasterboard were called. We new him as lofty because he was so tall! He would board out Waites Built new builds houses on his own and would lift 8’x4’ boards up to the ceiling and tack them without any fancy gadgets on help. He also would load the houses out with boards carrying them two at a time, I couldn’t lift one on my own.
@@ProperDIY back in those days they nailed and then the boards were skimmed. Now it’s very different with steel studding and little to know plastering. Carpentry and plastering is becoming a dying trade, in all but the one off builds.
Can I ask a question please? The timing of this is amazing as I want to do this over Xmas. I also want to board above the insulation - OSB board screwed to the joists so I can have an area for storage in the garage. Is that OK?
OSB screwed above is fine. Just keep in mind how much weight you are adding to the beams. With plasterboard below and OSB plus stored material above, you could be adding a considerable weight to your ceiling.
Hi Stuart, another really good video. I didn't know these plasterboard lifters existed but would have come in handy a few years back doing my house rather than the makeshift timber prop that I ended up making/using. Just one question - the joist spacing of your ceiling appears quite generous. Are you concerned about boards sagging over time, particularly as any ambient moisture impacts the board rigidity? With the eaves insulated I think the ventilation of the void space could be a concern if not managed? I'd appreciate your thoughts as I'm an engineer but not the right type in this case!
If you're gonna overboard an existing kitchen ceiling after already single boarding the box room don't forget you're gonna need longer screws (50mm at least). Can you guess how I know this?? ;-) Another nice video Stuart, looking forward to the tape and skim one next week. I chickened out and got a plasterer in to do the kitchen ceiling and box room
Hi Stuart, the ceiling is looking great there mate, and it will make a noice difference, I noticed you had a old style Black and Decker looking work table, I still have my original B&D workmate that I purchased way back in early 1980, I hope you and your family have Very Merry Christmas and a safe and Happy New Year.
Hi ‘Proper DIY’, another excellent video, very well presented with a touch of your usual humour. I’m more of a PSETDI (pay someone else to do it) person, but your method and approach make each project look achievable by us mere mortals. Keep it up and have a good Christmas break (probably more DIY) 👍🏾👍🏾
Hi Stuart I enjoyed your video. Very well produced. I am just starting on a similar project in my garage. Mine is unihabitable in the middle of winter and in the middle of summer. Luckily I have a smooth floor. I will be hiring what we in Australia call a panel-lift (tomato/tomato). The last one I used many years ago, had folding extenders on the arms so that when it was titled, I only had lift the board a few centimetres at each end...a great back-saver. I have been told I must back-block my unsupported joints. Do you think this is really necessary? My roof is quite low pitched and this little duck will definitely not be moving around up there. So I like your idea of pre-placing the insulation batts over temporary battens and poking them down into place when the ceiling is fixed. I intend to use this method all across my ceiling until the last boards where I will use under strapping to hold them up. Cheers from Melbourne
a tip for you bud find a 2ft wide by 4ft 13mm or better scrap of plywood to actually sit on it in the attic space (if it will take the weight ) thay way your not wobbling on a step ladder and also put some more boards up to make it a storage space up there with a hatch into your attic ive done it that way for years
Another great video, my new go to. If you ever get the chance to do videos on installing a composite front door canopy that would be great, very limited 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Congrats on approaching 100k sub! It would have been interesting to see how you dealt with your light and insulating above them... 🤷♂️ ahah! Just watch the next video about taping and jointing the plasterboard and you do mention there that there will be a video just on the lights... hopefully it's still coming up
Stuart, when you're insulating the edges should you not maintain an airflow? I did this in our garage the summer before last and was advised by an architect to use fireproof plasterboard as it's connected to the house (even heavier) and to maintain that airflow. I lifted the full sheets into place manually with the help of a 'wee fella' two doors down, the rest I did myself. I wish I'd hired a hoist now. I ended up adding battons for the edges of some boards that weren't brilliantly aligned to give me something better to screw into. A bugger of a job, and it's no warmer in the winter (there's no heat), I'm looking forward to you doing your walls.
@@ProperDIY An absolute bugger of a job. I dropped and snapped one complicated bit I'd taken ages cutting to shape, I was knackered and dirty, this nearly had me in tears. Also struggling to hold sheets up meant they weren't as well aligned as they could have been which make the taping and mudding harder.
Another properly entertaining film Stuart, well done. I did have the idea that perhaps running lengths of 50 x 25 along the bottom edges on the horizontal joists would've given you some added width of timber to screws into where the board edges meet up as 35mm is perhaps a little too narrow, maybe it would prevent any 'blow out' at the board edges, however I do realise this is an added expense, but it was just a thought.
Thanks. Yes could do or cut lots of strips of 18mm ply say 50mm wide. I would need 12x5.7m so a reasonable amount of work. What I did do was to just add more screws to those ends so should hold up
@@ProperDIY Quick question if I may Sir, but would fixing into ply edge on cause some degree of de-lamination in the material ? Looking forward to to the next film Stuart, I hope Santa brings you a lovely new table saw this year - Merry Christmas to you. Fantastic channel.
@@paulwhittle6728 18mm ply is strong stuff so I think it would hold up. So far it doesn't look like the big tool companies (except Trend) are bring me anything for Xmas so no table saw on the horizon!
I did and it's very difficult to quantify. However, every time I was up in the loft area my weight on a single roof truss did very little to it in the way of defection so as I have 13 of these I decided that the trusses have the capacity to carry the plasterboard weight.
I suspect the original builders of the garage have already dealt with that in the real roof above. Stuart is just building a “fake” ceiling if that makes sense rather than a proper cold roof. I guess it depends on how different the air temp will ultimate be between his plasterboard and the void between the top of the rock wool and the actual real roof.
Thanks. Things never work exactly in the right order - when I moved in just over a year ago I needed to get out of a storage unit ASAP so I put a wall on the garage and immediately used it for storage. In a perfect world, as you say, that should have been the first project.
@@ProperDIY If you ever do anything with the floor please film it, I'd be very interested. I can't decide what to do with my own at the moment. Current options, leave as is, epoxy or grind it smooth.
Will you be boarding other side for long term storage I know you mentioned your gonna board the attic at some stage I thought you might do both to give you extra storage for all the tools 😂or is just to keep the workshop a little more comfortable is the main reason for doing this also I really do enjoy the content i have used your videos in helping plan and visualise what it I end up doing.
Another great video Stuart, thank you. Have been hands on for many years but am always drawn to your channel, presentation, planning and a good personality make it, so will be watching everything that you do. Q: Am also thinking of doing this what are the pro's and cons plaster board versus plywood (assume cost) but good to know your view on it.
Huge respect for not only doing this on your own but filming it at a professional level too! Look forward to your videos every Friday and learning so much from them. Cheers!
I appreciate that!
Super luxury that lift is Stuart. I remember whilst being a labourer during the early eighties, having to balance the plasterboard on my head and attempting to hammer nails through to fix. Very painful and always getting shouted at. Great job you're doing there.
Thank you. I've had some comments about not using a lift and just balancing them on your head etc. I don't think until you've done it you realise how painful and difficult it is! You may get them up but not necessarily in the place you want them!
You’re literally working through my to do list, so now I have no excuse to have to ‘research how to do them’! Putting a ceiling in my garage has been on my mind for ages.
Need to get my lighting sorted, then can get to plasterboarding and now I know how!
Brilliant videos Stuart!
Thank you very much
Excellent video again. I done exactly the same to my garage. When I fitted the loft hatch, I cut the square out on the plasterboard before fitting to roof. I found it easier to do this on the ground rather than looking up and cutting, also alot cleaner. Look forward to next video. I've learnt so much from you.
Hi, In Australia, the back of the sheets are glued to the fixing timber a quarter of the sheet width from the edge. The glue shrinks when dried and pulls the drywall tight to the fixing timber. So, only screws are only required at the edges and along the centerline. On the centerline two screws are used for ceilings. Screws near the glue pop after the glue dries. The glue also prevents sheet movement and screws popping a long time later.
I have done more than my share of sheet rock by hand when I was younger. I had to lift it up by hand and hold it in place while my dad screwed it in place with a manual screw driver, as this was many years ago before these electric screw drivers came out. So doing this by hand without help is a job and a half! 👍👍2 thumbs up!
Thank you. Even if you can 'get it up' by yourself the accuracy would be rubbish!
I highly recommend a plasterboard drywall screwdriver bit to eliminate damage from screwing too deep, countersinking to the perfect depth. I did a lot of damage on my project and of course as always discovered these after the job was complete. Great video as always thanks.
Yes, I'm here just for the free therapy session.... where's the tea and the biscuits?🤣🤣🤣 Jokes apart I like very much your story telling on your videos! Keep it up!
I came across this video while looking at if I needed to beef up the joists before I put a plasterboard ceiling in my garage. Seeing you doing such a great job with just the standard joists has inspired me to stop worrying about it and get on with it.
Stuart, great job mate. You inform and entertain in equal measure and remind me that my mess is not exclusive to me. Work, I love it...I could sit and watch it all day.
Thank you for starting this channel. You're an absolute joy to watch. Merry Christmas!!
I'm glad you are enjoying it - Merry Christmas!
Excellent video as ever. Looking forward to the rest in this project as I have my own garage to sort out in 2022 when it warms up a bit. In future videos it would be great if you could include the rough cost of the hire of any equipment used as I think it helps people get an idea of what a job costs and also helps them avoid being ripped off by the hire companies and also help in deciding whether to buy or hire as you have covered in previous videos.
Other point I wasn't sure about was whether there was a need to put a vapour barrier on before putting the plaster boards up? I am guessing not as you seem to think about everything before hand. But an explanation as to why it wasn't needed would be greatly appreciated.
Keep up the excellent channel videos!
I have no idea whether you’ve done the job yet or what but there is a cheaper way to put boards up on the ceiling by using some lengths of timber and cutting tees to wedge it in place.
Wow, seriously impressive; there's not many people who could do that single-handed, hats off to you Sir!
Thank you
I boarded my whole house on my own. Using a plasterboard lifter. Had it 10years.
I used it just last weekend to help with a coffered ceiling I’ve built in my living room. It’s a brilliant tool. I think I paid £220 10’years ago.
boarding the ceiling and the walls in garage does makes things looks better great work.
Mr. Stuart,
The plasterboard lifter you introduced in the video is really amazing! Thank you for the valuable sharing. Your videos have widen my horizon in home DIY. I have introduced your channel to all my friends who have relocated in the UK.
Stay safe during the pandemic and best wishes from Hong Kong,
Chris Lai
Glad you enjoyed it - Doh jeh.
I liked the reveal of the Proper DIY logo as you lifted the drywall sheet to the ceiling! You put so much effort into your videos. (Also, I do the same thing when I measure - I keep repeating the number to myself out loud until I cut the damn thing. Wife thinks I'm mental.)
Thanks! Repeating the numbers is the only way to go!
Thanks a lot for your work, editing, videoing quality, music, sequence all need to be highly commended. very neat and tidy job....
Here in Canada we staple up poly (vapor barrier) and then lay the insulation on it. In very warm/humid climates I believe they poly outside the insulation. Not sure about your climate but, are you not worried about moisture/rot in the ceiling?
Excellent videos. Relaxed, calm but most importantly you address each and every stage and explain things brilliantly, passing on the key practical advice we all look for. Well done. Keep going! Solo full sheet plaster boarding above head height was a challenge and a half but superbly done!
OMG!!! Everything you said was spot on, especially since I'm doing this right now, only difference is I'm using OSB in my shop. Only thing I will add if your not use to "hard" work you may find you'll have to skip a day or two in between from being so damn sore from using muscles your not use to using to allow yourself to recoup. Unfortunately we're also getting in to negative Celsius weather which is making it almost too cold to do anything in the shop.
Thank you. Yes this is hard work if you are not used to it. And it was cold - but I need the ceiling in for the winter so just got to get on with it!
Proper DIY has ended up being one my favourite channels to watch lol i actually look forward to your videos
Oh that board lift is bloody brilliant!
Worth it's weight in gold
You are a mighty man... You put us other blokes never mind diy'ers to shame...
Great video as per...
Reminds me of when I was 16 got a summer job as a plasters Labourer... Carrying 8x4 sheets up stairs etc.... Toughest job I've ever had...(been a civil servant for the last 25 years 😂😂)
Thank you. Yes in your 20's you can sometimes do things you maybe wouldn't later on in life!
@@ProperDIY so the wife keeps telling me, good old phizer to the rescue 😂😂
#3 is absolutely essential for good results. Using a lift will cut down on broken sheets, and sore muscles. At the end of the day, you still want to be able to lift your beer.
If doing drywall for the first time, you will likely be putting some sheets up and down several times in order to fine tune the fit. Using a lift makes it so much easier and reduces the temptation to force a sheet in place only to break a corner or edge.
Now that it's been awhile since you've done the job, is there anyhing you would have done differently, or used another tool? I'm thinking specifically of a drywall screw gun. When properly adjusted, one can just fly along. Sorry for the language barrier, I'm an American.
Cheers!
great job Stuart, thank you for sharing your work
100% agree about tools and general garbage gathering on every flat surface, built my workshop last summer but a bench in now full of tools and clutter. As for dry lining ceilings, I rope my old man as extra pair of hands and about to have to do the master bedroom having done my sons room already!
Try putting a sheet of ply or MDF on the floor under the lift on a rough floor so small precise adjustments are smooth and easy.
Stuart - Another good video
Yes I am in your tool club
Couple of points or thoughts as I do.
You may regret boarding it all as some could of been handy storage from below - of course you will of had the job of boxing around that area !
The hatch - think with care where it is located as you don’t want to have to move your bench each time you need to go up there - and trust me you will soon doing that - also if you have long items that you may put up there then sticking the hatch close to a wall or at a low point is no good - obviously you can’t load it too much.
Finally I had the same issue one with floor level - so used a 8x4 sheet of hardboard on the floor and moved it around as required - provides as smooth surface for the current task.
All the best
also you can make a t stick with some batten to hold those cuts up ( a spare hand )
Thank you for this, I am just about go do this in my front room. I bought a board lift from Ebay, (will sell it as used on there after) as am a bit of a slow coach. I hope to get a hand to lift the boards as I am not very big. Also, I will be doing to layers of board with green glue in between (as well as insulation). I look forward to see the video on how you finish off.
I’m shattered just watching that, great effort on keeping the production standard high while having stuff everywhere and being covered in crap!
Thank you. Yes it's bad enough doing the work but filming as well just adds to the challenge!
Thank you for adding the little closeup of the orange "thingy" bending out of the way - I was wondering what happened at that point.
1:30 shouldn't there be an air gap to get a flow of air in the loft space to prevent condensation? Cheers
There is still a space in the eves as the insulation isn't pushed all the way to the underside of the felt so still plenty of fresh air
@@ProperDIY Nice one!
@Pat C Good old Roger!
Great video as always Stuart, love your detail on each video and explaining stuff. Keep it up.
Thank you very much!
@@ProperDIY sent you a email as well today have a little read when you have a sec. thanks
Very good. Am planning a similar job. From a sound proofing perspective I'm looking at putting special tape between wood n board. Cheers. J
managed to plasterboard my garage ceiling with two of us doing the lifting and screwing, so wish i hadnt been a cheap skate and got a board lift though after a day of lifting I was sore all over.
Great video. I'm getting ready to do my garage ceiling here shortly. You made the comment about having issues with the screws blowing out on the edges, something that might work better is to wait to do the edges until you have the next piece butted up against it.
Can you please explain why it is, despite my garage already having a ceiling, that I find this video utterly satisfying and enjoyable? Oh yes, I also have tools, jars, cans of paint, drawers of screws and nails etc on every available shelf. Thanks for this one, it was great.
Worker smarter not harder👍. I’ve had my plasterboard (panel) lifter for 10 years.
£200 off eBay. Used it loads. Never let me down.
Great job Stuart. Recommend that you eschew the stepladders and get a couple of step-ups and a scaffold board. Gives greater ease and scope for lateral movement , and puts an end to the constant up/down hassle of moving stepladders in small increments, and indeed removes the risk of stepladder overstretch.
Good tip
You KNOW we all searched the meaning of "eschew" : ) #wordoftheday
@@ProperDIY If you are going to buy a step up I can't recommend enough paying a bit more than the cheaper ones and getting the werner adjustable pro platform. I got mine from a reputable seller on eBay as Wickes were out of stock. It is a bit more currently with most other sellers. It is an absolutely excellent platform that will last a lifetime and I was a bit unsure about needing the adjustable feature but I am so glad I paid the extra for that. There is an excellent review from an American on TH-cam if you search for it. Can't recommend it enough as Duncan said over a stepladder. It's one of those, I wish I bought this years ago, kind of purchases.
Great video Stuart, really detailed and easy to follow along!
I had 2 questions if you wouldn't mind:
1. I'm a big lad at 125kg - i noticed you were standing on the rafters/joists of the garage roof when adding the last bit of insulation - the joists in my garage don't seem very thick/rigid and i'm not sure they'd take my weight - but then again if they can support the roof with all the tiles on it then it should support me too?
2. Is there a reason you didn't insulate the triangular/pointy bits of the roof? where the felt lining is. I know its something to do with a warm/cold loft in a house but figured it would make sense to insulate there at the same time as at joist level?
This came a little late - I insulated my garage last week! But I was doing the single-brick walls. I used batons, 100mm poly insulation and OSB board (mainly) over it, as it will have to take weighty tools hanging from the walls, but I would value your thoughts on relative insulation properties of rock wool versus poly sheets. I might have to sort the roof next! Les in Chester
Brilliant work Stuart. A nice methodical approach with a great result!
Great video, definitely gave me the kick to board out my garage ceiling. Couldn’t squeeze in a board lift so ended up going old school with an ‘L’ shaped homemade bracket (screwed to opposite side of roof truss for one end of a length and a ladder and long 3x2 that was just long enough with a bit of carpet on the end for bracing. Some really good tips n this video. Definitely some swearing at whoever installed the trusses at slightly less than standard so had to use noggins towards the end of a run as measurements ran out!
Hi Stuart, I liked the video thanks. I'll be starting this job soon in my own garage and I have been planning to use the thick glass wool rolled type insulation (170mm Knauf) but I've noticed most video's like yours are using either rockwool or thinner panel style insultation (mainly for accoustic dampening which I don't require). Just want to check the thicker rolled wool is suitable? Thanks, Dunc.
Fantastic job again. " Almost " makes me think I could do it !
Hello, will you tell me what screws you used to hold the plasterboard in place please? Thank you.
They were 25mm plaster board screws
@@ProperDIY thank you
Absolutly top notch considering your flying solo. Dont know if i missed something as i only fell on your sight today. Im thinking the loft area would of at least doubled up as storage space for your lumber or other miscellaneous things. That said, once your missus finds out theres storage space up there you will be up and down like a yo_yo. Well done sir all the same.
Thank you. Where have you been?
I only started woodwork on Dec 11th.I had no idea communities like this exsisted. Ive not had so much fun since she left. Thanks to all you guys its worth getting
getting out and about again.
another awesome educating video. even to the point of suggesting smaller battery for drill.
Glad you liked it!
Great video Stuart, quickly becomng essential Friday viewing... Looking forward to the taping and jointing video... As sad as that sounds :-)
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent work Stuart. You always make it look so easy and problem free (we all know it's not though)
Awesome video 👏 What type of screws did you use?
Did you add additional dwangs/noggins? Every guidance I have read says to add them at the edges of the ceilings and every 1.2 for the plasterboard/drywall to have a decent fixing.
Things are certainly a lot easier nawadays. When i first started working with my father 40 years ago we used to make up a t shaped support out of tile batten (called a deadman) slightly taller than the ceiling height. We would then lift the sheet of plasterboard onto our heads and lift it into place. Once in place we would wedge the deadman at one end of the board whilst we nailed the other end in place. It sounds quite tricky but it wasn't once you got the hang of it and I could board a ceiling in no time.
Love that board lift, makes life a lot easier. Thanks great job.
Yes it does! Thanks
Awesome job so far and expertly done. I look forward to the next part.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent job. Very neatly done. Your garage will look fabulous after that. 👍🏼
Thanks 👍
Awesome channel just a question can you do a video on cutting coving as I can't tell you how much a have wasted trying to get the corners cut
Back in the late 60s early 70s I new a tacker! In those days that’s what the guys who fitted plasterboard were called. We new him as lofty because he was so tall! He would board out Waites Built new builds houses on his own and would lift 8’x4’ boards up to the ceiling and tack them without any fancy gadgets on help. He also would load the houses out with boards carrying them two at a time, I couldn’t lift one on my own.
Well said. Even if I could lift one to that height, I don't think I could then get it mm perfect before screwing it in!
@@ProperDIY back in those days they nailed and then the boards were skimmed. Now it’s very different with steel studding and little to know plastering. Carpentry and plastering is becoming a dying trade, in all but the one off builds.
Can I ask a question please? The timing of this is amazing as I want to do this over Xmas. I also want to board above the insulation - OSB board screwed to the joists so I can have an area for storage in the garage. Is that OK?
OSB screwed above is fine. Just keep in mind how much weight you are adding to the beams. With plasterboard below and OSB plus stored material above, you could be adding a considerable weight to your ceiling.
@@ProperDIY good point thank you
Great job! Any tips on where to buy plasterboard and other sheet material cheaply for delivery?
I would get some prices from local builders merchants as well as Travis Perkins etc
@@ProperDIY thank you! Keep up the great work.
Hi Stuart, another really good video. I didn't know these plasterboard lifters existed but would have come in handy a few years back doing my house rather than the makeshift timber prop that I ended up making/using. Just one question - the joist spacing of your ceiling appears quite generous. Are you concerned about boards sagging over time, particularly as any ambient moisture impacts the board rigidity? With the eaves insulated I think the ventilation of the void space could be a concern if not managed? I'd appreciate your thoughts as I'm an engineer but not the right type in this case!
If you're gonna overboard an existing kitchen ceiling after already single boarding the box room don't forget you're gonna need longer screws (50mm at least). Can you guess how I know this?? ;-)
Another nice video Stuart, looking forward to the tape and skim one next week. I chickened out and got a plasterer in to do the kitchen ceiling and box room
Good advice! It's easier to 'have a go' when it's your garage rather than your wife's kitchen!!!
Hi Stuart, the ceiling is looking great there mate, and it will make a noice difference, I noticed you had a old style Black and Decker looking work table, I still have my original B&D workmate that I purchased way back in early 1980, I hope you and your family have Very Merry Christmas and a safe and Happy New Year.
Thank you. Yes that Work mate was my Dads - sentimental piece of Mathews family history there!
Really useful content as always - cheers Stuart
Very good production values.
Much appreciated!
Hi ‘Proper DIY’, another excellent video, very well presented with a touch of your usual humour. I’m more of a PSETDI (pay someone else to do it) person, but your method and approach make each project look achievable by us mere mortals. Keep it up and have a good Christmas break (probably more DIY) 👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks 👍Very nice comments! Even at Christmas, DIY never stops!
Interested how you manoeuvred the boards right to the edge of the wall with those orange rests they sat on in the way.
Great job though
I think he did this on purpose to leave a gap, you dont want the drywall touching an outside wall.
I could be wrong if so...apologies.
Hi Stuart
I enjoyed your video. Very well produced.
I am just starting on a similar project in my garage. Mine is unihabitable in the middle of winter and in the middle of summer. Luckily I have a smooth floor. I will be hiring what we in Australia call a panel-lift (tomato/tomato). The last one I used many years ago, had folding extenders on the arms so that when it was titled, I only had lift the board a few centimetres at each end...a great back-saver.
I have been told I must back-block my unsupported joints. Do you think this is really necessary?
My roof is quite low pitched and this little duck will definitely not be moving around up there. So I like your idea of pre-placing the insulation batts over temporary battens and poking them down into place when the ceiling is fixed. I intend to use this method all across my ceiling until the last boards where I will use under strapping to hold them up.
Cheers from Melbourne
Hi Stuart. Fantastic job. Looks great. Love your vids. Brilliant stuff. Cheers! 👍
thanks another good video really enjoy watching them
Glad you like them!
Excellent video as always. Great tutorial. Phenomenal work ethic 👌👏👍💥
great guy i love watching your vedios you are excellent
a tip for you bud find a 2ft wide by 4ft 13mm or better scrap of plywood to actually sit on it in the attic space (if it will take the weight ) thay way your not wobbling on a step ladder and also put some more boards up to make it a storage space up there with a hatch into your attic ive done it that way for years
Another great video, my new go to. If you ever get the chance to do videos on installing a composite front door canopy that would be great, very limited 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you - I'll keep that in mind
Congrats on approaching 100k sub! It would have been interesting to see how you dealt with your light and insulating above them... 🤷♂️ ahah! Just watch the next video about taping and jointing the plasterboard and you do mention there that there will be a video just on the lights... hopefully it's still coming up
Thanks. Yes, it will be coming
Start my arms are hurting just watching this! Great job though. Well done 👏
You can do it!
Stuart, when you're insulating the edges should you not maintain an airflow? I did this in our garage the summer before last and was advised by an architect to use fireproof plasterboard as it's connected to the house (even heavier) and to maintain that airflow. I lifted the full sheets into place manually with the help of a 'wee fella' two doors down, the rest I did myself. I wish I'd hired a hoist now. I ended up adding battons for the edges of some boards that weren't brilliantly aligned to give me something better to screw into. A bugger of a job, and it's no warmer in the winter (there's no heat), I'm looking forward to you doing your walls.
Ah, at ~ 13:30 it looks like you aren't shoving the insulation tight into the wall/celing join.
Correct. I still have quiet a big gap for air flow
Yes if the garage is a part of the house then should be fireproof. Well done doing it without a lift!
@@ProperDIY An absolute bugger of a job. I dropped and snapped one complicated bit I'd taken ages cutting to shape, I was knackered and dirty, this nearly had me in tears. Also struggling to hold sheets up meant they weren't as well aligned as they could have been which make the taping and mudding harder.
Great one Stuart. I am looking at insulating my garage soon and this is really helpful. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Take care
Thanks, you too!
You are *so* good at this TH-cam lark.
For insulating the garage… have you seen Karl Strawbyte’s series?
Another great video Stuart nicely done mate, soon be up to 100,000 subs mate👏👏
Thank you. Yes, 100k by March maybe - someone has to keep the other UK channels on their toes!
Another great video 👍 and another nice job.
Thanks
Another properly entertaining film Stuart, well done. I did have the idea that perhaps running lengths of 50 x 25 along the bottom edges on the horizontal joists would've given you some added width of timber to screws into where the board edges meet up as 35mm is perhaps a little too narrow, maybe it would prevent any 'blow out' at the board edges, however I do realise this is an added expense, but it was just a thought.
Thanks. Yes could do or cut lots of strips of 18mm ply say 50mm wide. I would need 12x5.7m so a reasonable amount of work. What I did do was to just add more screws to those ends so should hold up
@@ProperDIY Quick question if I may Sir, but would fixing into ply edge on cause some degree of de-lamination in the material ? Looking forward to to the next film Stuart, I hope Santa brings you a lovely new table saw this year - Merry Christmas to you. Fantastic channel.
@@paulwhittle6728 18mm ply is strong stuff so I think it would hold up. So far it doesn't look like the big tool companies (except Trend) are bring me anything for Xmas so no table saw on the horizon!
Great work Stuart 👏
Thanks 👍
You get a thumbs up for the string line tip alone!! :-)
Thank you!
Great job. You missed out a tool which I am interested in and it's that yellow T Square.
Fantastic work. Did you have any concerns about adding so much weight to the roof trusses? Thank you!
I did and it's very difficult to quantify. However, every time I was up in the loft area my weight on a single roof truss did very little to it in the way of defection so as I have 13 of these I decided that the trusses have the capacity to carry the plasterboard weight.
Thank you for the reply. Really enjoy your videos so keep up the good work 😁.
Great video. Don’t you have any concerns about interstitial condensation without fitting a vapour control layer?
I suspect the original builders of the garage have already dealt with that in the real roof above. Stuart is just building a “fake” ceiling if that makes sense rather than a proper cold roof. I guess it depends on how different the air temp will ultimate be between his plasterboard and the void between the top of the rock wool and the actual real roof.
Nice work Stuart, I noticed the garage floor in one of the first videos and have been wondering why you didn't float it before starting anything else.
Thanks. Things never work exactly in the right order - when I moved in just over a year ago I needed to get out of a storage unit ASAP so I put a wall on the garage and immediately used it for storage. In a perfect world, as you say, that should have been the first project.
@@ProperDIY If you ever do anything with the floor please film it, I'd be very interested. I can't decide what to do with my own at the moment. Current options, leave as is, epoxy or grind it smooth.
@@C4sp3r123 this
Great job
Great Video. Was that a Brompton lurking in your garage?
Also, does the panda have a name?
Yes it was. I haven't used it for a bit - I used to ride it in Dubai of all places - check out my 'Dubai Marina' video on Proper Dubai channel.
Hello Stuart, loving the channel. Did you or do you intend to do a video covering the Led lights in your new insulated ceiling ?
Thanks. Yes definitely. Prob coming out in late Jan
@@ProperDIY Look forward to it 👍
Great job as usual 😃👍
Can I please ask where you got your flat panel lights? I’m guessing they are led? What wattage please? Thanks
No vapour barrier needed?
Will you be boarding other side for long term storage I know you mentioned your gonna board the attic at some stage I thought you might do both to give you extra storage for all the tools 😂or is just to keep the workshop a little more comfortable is the main reason for doing this also I really do enjoy the content i have used your videos in helping plan and visualise what it I end up doing.
Another great video Stuart, thank you. Have been hands on for many years but am always drawn to your channel, presentation, planning and a good personality make it, so will be watching everything that you do. Q: Am also thinking of doing this what are the pro's and cons plaster board versus plywood (assume cost) but good to know your view on it.
Great Video , subscribed
“unless you are muscular, in your twenties and feel you have something to prove” absolutely priceless. Old guys rule
I though so.
That ratchet lift thing is brilliant, what did that cost for a week?
Around £75 and worth every penny!
Looking forward to see what tomorrow brings 😁 day off Christmas eve?