I have been thinking the IRT BCC 60 head for shop and video demos when we open shop at the end of the year. The Studio Rats video has really made me think it may be what we need. So many Fantastic videos.
I bought this instantly without even testing. It's amazing. I love it. I can't wait till my band gets some more shows in and I can afford the 4x12 FRFR. I just got my first FRFR, the headrush FRFR112
our LFR-112 weighs more than the Headrush, but it's also a Wooden Cabinet and the tone really shines through. That or an LFR-212 could be a way to go until you're ready for an LFR-412. Just saying.
@@LaneyAmplification that's very true, I'm going to to look into the LFR-212. I love the headrush, but id love to have a more guitar like cab. The 412 is something I'd love for my band. But my lead guitarist runs his Soldano and ToneX through the Soldano 2x12, I'll def blow him away unless he upgrades once I can get that 412.
I'd LOVE to borrow one to make a vid testing it against the plugin...same guitar, same impulse response, everything the same for both, in a mix and stand alone...only difference is amp or plugin. Would be REALLY cool to see if you all nailed it!!
I see both 2x12 and 4x12 cabs that can handle the wattage of these heads, I like the smaller, but I feel like ppl wouldn't lug around 4 if 2 can cut it, IS a 2 speaker cab paired with these heads going to be able to keep up with a bass and drums in a 24ft basement?
As our Product Manager famously says, "nothing is impossible". We did however release the LA-STUDIO which is a 3watt version of the LA30BL & LA100BL and that delivers the Supergroup tone beautifully at a fraction on the volume. Plus it has a Two Notes Torpedo built in. It's a perfect Studio Recording amp and can be used Live too. www.laney.co.uk/amps/guitar/supergroup/la-studio
That Red Knob represents an all new boost plus there is also a newly built gain stage in this amplifier. Plus it is made in the UK now in our Black Country Customs factory.
@@LaneyAmplificationRevoicing the boost is definitely a good thing! I'm just saying that it looks almost exactly the same and it really shouldn't. If you're discontinuing the regular IRT heads then nevermind me. LOL
@@LaneyAmplification Since the block diagrams are the same between the old and new manuals, means the gain structure is the same, just revoiced? Or is there an extra gain stage over the original Ironhearts?
Is there any info on the being able to win an amp? There is nothing on the website about it, nor anything on Aurora's site. I won't win, but gotta live in hope haha
I quite agree. I hear so many good things about the Ironheart 60W. But I worry about it's weight, whether it's too loud for pubs, and the DI out to the PA. Our singer demands it. It's something that doesn't seem to be mentioned. It's stopping me from buying.
@@LaneyAmplification Question! Is the difference in tone between the pulled and pushed midrange and bass knobs very subtle? The Treble difference is very noticeable and in my face. But so far I’m not noticing much of a difference with the midrange and bass knobs pulled. Can’t tell if it’s just Very subtle or if my ears are playing a trick on me.
Right ?! I watched the whole stupid video thinking we’d actually get to hear the amps.. maybe transition music we hear a few times uses them ? An ad for an amp really should showcase how it sounds I would think ..
Suggestion...instead of spending the entire video talking about how about just playing through it so we can hear it more. I always liked Laney amps and was very intrigued by this but the video really tells me nothing. Sure, I can d-load the trial but I never d-load trials as I have over 1000 plug ins so it's hard to keep track. If I like what I hear on the demos I buy it
We have a raw both in and out of the mix demo of the plugin on our channel featuring Alex Hutchings. Here you go: th-cam.com/video/11b3MiAbhF0/w-d-xo.html
The plugin itself is not bad, but I am no fan of the typical Laney Ironheart sound. Had an IRT Pulse, an IRF pedal and a IRT Studio, but they all disappointed me sonically. A Marshall or Orange sounds much better to me, especially, as they react much better to attack and create much more intense harmonics, while the typical Laney sound simply is too overcompressed, lifeless and boring to me. For these sounds I could as well use a distortion pedal, which I never do, but from an all tube amp I expect much better, more vivid, more dynamically reacting sounds.
As we've said to both for and against comments over time, that's why there is such an array of choice out there. Hopefully if you get a chance to try one of the new BCC-Ironheart amps you'll find something more to your liking in there.
@@LaneyAmplification This plugin anyway seems to be based on the new BCC amps. But the plugin itself sounds very thin and sythetic for my taste, not really a tube amp sound, which I like, unbalanced and also is one of the noisiest contemporary amp plugins, which I have heard during the last years. State-of-the-art is something different in my opinion. Even my favorite Rectifier and 5150 plugins work more noiseless. Maybe Laney better had collaborated with Brainworx or Softube instead of Aurora DSP, then the plugin certainly had sounded much better and more authentically. A lot of great features, no doubt (especially the seamless power scaling, which one of my favorite amps also offer), but I am not happy with Boost (not neutral enough for my taste, so I always have to readjust tone controls for activated or deactivated boost, which hardly is possible live). Less happy I am with Tone. In principle a good idea, but the adjustment range does not work for me. Decent adjustments hardly are possible, so I have the choice between too dull and muddy or too shrill and scratchy sounding tones, while middle position simply sounds too flat and too boring for my taste. Works better with Lead, but as it is, not so good with Clean/Rhythm tones in my opinion. A regular Presence control or a Cut control I can turn to zero, if I do not like the results, but here I cannot decativate anything or at least reduce intensity, as it is at the moment. From rain into the eaves is not really a pleasing choice for me. If these features still are improved, Boost maybe with an option to choose between full range and treble boost or a frequency control and Tone with some better fine tuning options, this amp could become excellent. The direction is right, I would say. So maybe the next generation could become interesting for me. Maybe, but certainly not this version.
I still use my Ironheart since 2017 , paired with Vintage 30 cab , working great with the band :)
Can't wait to see what's improved on those new Laney irts
I have been thinking the IRT BCC 60 head for shop and video demos when we open shop at the end of the year. The Studio Rats video has really made me think it may be what we need. So many Fantastic videos.
I bought this instantly without even testing. It's amazing. I love it. I can't wait till my band gets some more shows in and I can afford the 4x12 FRFR. I just got my first FRFR, the headrush FRFR112
our LFR-112 weighs more than the Headrush, but it's also a Wooden Cabinet and the tone really shines through. That or an LFR-212 could be a way to go until you're ready for an LFR-412. Just saying.
@@LaneyAmplification that's very true, I'm going to to look into the LFR-212. I love the headrush, but id love to have a more guitar like cab. The 412 is something I'd love for my band. But my lead guitarist runs his Soldano and ToneX through the Soldano 2x12, I'll def blow him away unless he upgrades once I can get that 412.
My 120 is out for delivery, can't wait!
Awesome!
Wow, beautiful amp, thank you, great !!!
Any difference in features between this new 60watt and the new 120watt?? Other than the obvious of course
All the same, except the power section and its accompanying components.
Four power tubes are extra "cool" to have 😂😂
I wanna hear the sound difference between 120 and 60 watts.
Hello, whoever has the previous version of ironheart, is they also entitled to the plugin?
I'd LOVE to borrow one to make a vid testing it against the plugin...same guitar, same impulse response, everything the same for both, in a mix and stand alone...only difference is amp or plugin. Would be REALLY cool to see if you all nailed it!!
I see both 2x12 and 4x12 cabs that can handle the wattage of these heads, I like the smaller, but I feel like ppl wouldn't lug around 4 if 2 can cut it, IS a 2 speaker cab paired with these heads going to be able to keep up with a bass and drums in a 24ft basement?
Our Laney GS212IE 2×12 cabinet should work great for you. We recommend you to test one out at your local Laney dealer.
Hey Laney, can we get a Supergroup version of the Loudpedal, Leadtop, and Dualtop? Like, not just aestheticly, but tonewise as well?
As our Product Manager famously says, "nothing is impossible". We did however release the LA-STUDIO which is a 3watt version of the LA30BL & LA100BL and that delivers the Supergroup tone beautifully at a fraction on the volume. Plus it has a Two Notes Torpedo built in. It's a perfect Studio Recording amp and can be used Live too.
www.laney.co.uk/amps/guitar/supergroup/la-studio
Love this plugin!! ,hopefully there'll be Lionheart plugin in future
You've got my attention
Since these amps are hand built in UK, did the transformers get upgraded too?
#1 how much more are these new IRTs?
#2 Why didn't you call them a Mark2 or something? Gonna be confusing when they look the same outside a red knob.
The back of the heads have Black Country Customs logo. That's the differentiation.
@@mpgnz73 So I could put a red knob on my 13 year old IRT60H and unless you look at the back you'd never know? LOL
That Red Knob represents an all new boost plus there is also a newly built gain stage in this amplifier. Plus it is made in the UK now in our Black Country Customs factory.
@@LaneyAmplificationRevoicing the boost is definitely a good thing! I'm just saying that it looks almost exactly the same and it really shouldn't. If you're discontinuing the regular IRT heads then nevermind me. LOL
@@LaneyAmplification Since the block diagrams are the same between the old and new manuals, means the gain structure is the same, just revoiced? Or is there an extra gain stage over the original Ironhearts?
Is there any info on the being able to win an amp? There is nothing on the website about it, nor anything on Aurora's site. I won't win, but gotta live in hope haha
We need an ironheart with two-notes. ASAP, because some of us don’t care about plugins.
I quite agree. I hear so many good things about the Ironheart 60W. But I worry about it's weight, whether it's too loud for pubs, and the DI out to the PA. Our singer demands it. It's something that doesn't seem to be mentioned. It's stopping me from buying.
Welp…. I done did it. The 60 is on thee way 🤘
Smart choice. Thank you.
@@LaneyAmplification Question! Is the difference in tone between the pulled and pushed midrange and bass knobs very subtle? The Treble difference is very noticeable and in my face. But so far I’m not noticing much of a difference with the midrange and bass knobs pulled. Can’t tell if it’s just Very subtle or if my ears are playing a trick on me.
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Enough nerd talk, let's hear it.
Exactly
Right ?! I watched the whole stupid video thinking we’d actually get to hear the amps.. maybe transition music we hear a few times uses them ? An ad for an amp really should showcase how it sounds I would think ..
@@steveh1802 you are 100 percent correct
We have a rather comprehensive demo of the plugin if you would like to hear that: th-cam.com/video/11b3MiAbhF0/w-d-xo.html
@@LaneyAmplification actually demoing the trial version I like it might make a video of it
Suggestion...instead of spending the entire video talking about how about just playing through it so we can hear it more. I always liked Laney amps and was very intrigued by this but the video really tells me nothing. Sure, I can d-load the trial but I never d-load trials as I have over 1000 plug ins so it's hard to keep track. If I like what I hear on the demos I buy it
We have a raw both in and out of the mix demo of the plugin on our channel featuring Alex Hutchings. Here you go: th-cam.com/video/11b3MiAbhF0/w-d-xo.html
@@LaneyAmplification Awesome thank you
L4L
The plugin itself is not bad, but I am no fan of the typical Laney Ironheart sound. Had an IRT Pulse, an IRF pedal and a IRT Studio, but they all disappointed me sonically.
A Marshall or Orange sounds much better to me, especially, as they react much better to attack and create much more intense harmonics, while the typical Laney sound simply is too overcompressed, lifeless and boring to me.
For these sounds I could as well use a distortion pedal, which I never do, but from an all tube amp I expect much better, more vivid, more dynamically reacting sounds.
As we've said to both for and against comments over time, that's why there is such an array of choice out there. Hopefully if you get a chance to try one of the new BCC-Ironheart amps you'll find something more to your liking in there.
@@LaneyAmplification This plugin anyway seems to be based on the new BCC amps.
But the plugin itself sounds very thin and sythetic for my taste, not really a tube amp sound, which I like, unbalanced and also is one of the noisiest contemporary amp plugins, which I have heard during the last years. State-of-the-art is something different in my opinion. Even my favorite Rectifier and 5150 plugins work more noiseless.
Maybe Laney better had collaborated with Brainworx or Softube instead of Aurora DSP, then the plugin certainly had sounded much better and more authentically.
A lot of great features, no doubt (especially the seamless power scaling, which one of my favorite amps also offer), but I am not happy with Boost (not neutral enough for my taste, so I always have to readjust tone controls for activated or deactivated boost, which hardly is possible live).
Less happy I am with Tone. In principle a good idea, but the adjustment range does not work for me. Decent adjustments hardly are possible, so I have the choice between too dull and muddy or too shrill and scratchy sounding tones, while middle position simply sounds too flat and too boring for my taste. Works better with Lead, but as it is, not so good with Clean/Rhythm tones in my opinion. A regular Presence control or a Cut control I can turn to zero, if I do not like the results, but here I cannot decativate anything or at least reduce intensity, as it is at the moment. From rain into the eaves is not really a pleasing choice for me.
If these features still are improved, Boost maybe with an option to choose between full range and treble boost or a frequency control and Tone with some better fine tuning options, this amp could become excellent.
The direction is right, I would say. So maybe the next generation could become interesting for me. Maybe, but certainly not this version.