Well, I made it through the whole video. I think there were maybe 8 seconds of controversy. I could probably find hundreds of more controversial matches. And at no point did Murray ever look like he was cheating, other than his loud dad grunts.
Murray had an amazing opportunity to show what FAIRPLAY is, and this would still be remembered today, he should have given the next point to his opponent... Pity !
1. Don't think anyone would remember it, this is fundamentally no different from an incorrect line call that gets challenged and they replay the point even though the player whose shot was called out was about to win the point, and that happens almost daily. It's unusual that the ballboy caused the let, but it is always a replay the point whether you are 1% to win it or 99% to win it from there.. 2. If you think that, if the situation was reversed then your opponent would give you that point back then maybe you just concede the replay, but with no disrespect to Troicki, I'm not sure he would have done that. So you're asking Murray to give up a point which he potentially wouldn't be given in the reverse situation. In that scenario it's maybe best to just play by the rules imo. (NB. Not the same as the Hantuchova incident where Kerber absolutely should have said something because the umpire clearly got the rules wrong and Kerber knew it, in my mind definitely cheating by her in that case.)
I only played Tennis for one semester in junior college but I fell in love with it. I needed an antacid after watching this. Two warriors leaving their guts on the court. I felt so terrible for the ballboy's error running in before play had ended. That's a lot of pressure to deal with for a youngster to feel he has effected such a close match by his mistake. I hope he shakes it off.
Controversial Tennis Match??? Far from it. Unfortunate incident where the ball boy runs on in to the playing area at the point of Victor playing a smash. Murray has no control over the decisions made. There have been far worse incidents than this one. The most controversial tennis player of all time has to be John McEnroe and his verbal tirade at every chair person shouting 'you cannot be serious'! in a match between McEnroe and Borg in 1981. Or Tim Henman and Jeremy Bates becoming the first British Tennis players to be disqualified following Tim Henman's accidently hitting a ball girl in the ear in 2012.
ROBBERY OF THE CENTURY!!! 1st thing- How did ballboy influenced on that single point (needed to be repeated??- Wolley of tricki was so UNCATCHEABLE- ball landed 50feet from Murray and bounced even further- in the last raw of the court)!!! So how would Murray been able to BE on THAT perticulare BALL!??? NO NEED TO REPEAT the POINT!!! NOT MENTIONING ROBBERY that happened to the same player (Viktor Troicki, cause i was watching LIVE that math) in WIMBLEDON... Ball was flatened out-SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU COULD HEAR a WEIRD BOUNCE-SOUND!!! And YET AGAIN- Robbery of the century- "BOOK WRITERS COULD WRITE a SUPERSELLER BOOK out of IT"- "Robbery of TEnnis player- V.TROICKY"- probably the "BESTSELLER" in the last 9 decades!!! What a weird surcomstances happening around Viktors game, carrier, at the end- How can you continue to play tennis, if you always excpect to be somehow ROBBED!!! I feel so sorry for that guy, like he is my relative, my family!!! Sorry VIKTOR, (tješi se, makar na način..: Samo vi kradite i lažite,ali pravda vidi put, - " evo vam ga NA, zato će vas NOLE SVE ZATUĆ NA TERENU"...;-) I tako BI..I JOŠ TRAJE ,heh Eto bar neke satisfakcije!!
Yea no -- the problem with bending the rule as absolute is that it creates absurd results. Code is not common law where it is situational. You can't have a FINE LINE separate 1000 situations in half -- the line needs to be huge black and clear and you notice if you follow the rule, it separates the 1000 situations in half but clearly... Any on court hindrance is a replay.
Murray didnt cheat. But this is top tier unsportsmanlike behaviour lol. "But but it is a let". Bro dude won the f-cking point. Give him the point. Murray 1000% should have conceded the point. Just as bad as not calling a double bounce.
Yeah, I feel this too, especially for the sake of the ball kid (who was on the verge of tears). In a perfect world, Murray would have conceded the point, gone and ruffled up the ball kid's hair to make him laugh, then gotten on with the match as a proper knight would do.
Troicki won that game later. Sadly, this loss derailed Troicki's head and made a huge impact on his head. Had he won, he would be Top10 with QF points.
Murray actually did nothing wrong. Unfortunate for troicki though troicki still won that game. It would’ve been good sportsmanship to concede the point but it’s not poor sportsmanship to not. Nada’s behavior was ridiculous towards sonego trying to bully him, especially when he’s also grunting wildly too.
Nobody cheated. Ballkid running into the court during the ball is in play is just a "Let". These are the rules of tennis. "Accidents like that happen a lot espeacially on lower levels like Futures and Challengers with unexperienced ballkids. Should not happen at Grand Slam Level though. But the kid thought Troicki put the smash away and the rally was finished. We should feel with the kid in that moment that realized immediately what happened.
@@elicastelli9728 It is not an act of lacking sportsmanship if the other player in an incident like that is not conceding the point. What would you do if Troicki misshit the smash? I was a professional umpire for more than 15 years and I go 100 procent with Pascals decision. It is a very unlucky situation but shit happens a lot on tennis courts.
@@jochenknobel8175 It was un-sportsman of Murray not to give Troicki the point. If anyone was distracted by the ballboy it was Troicki. So had he missed of course, replay the point. So, yes the correct decision was made by the umpire. If Murray had an ounce of honesty in him, he would have said "you won the point fair and square" - he wasn't distracted by the ballboy's innocent mistake and had zero chance of getting it back. Nadal, Stan, Monfils, etc.....would have conceded that in a sportsmanlike fashion.
@@elicastelli9728 I am with you and your opinion. But as I said, I had these situations a lot in my 15 years and not one player ever conceded a point in a similar situation. We wait and see if something like that happens in a Nadal, Monfils etc. match and how they will react.
Maybe just change the video title to: "A Murray Classic". I really enjoyed reliving this match it was a good'n! Like the commentators said, common sense would award the point, but the rules say differently, nothing controversial here.
Did Andy Murray wink at the ball boy to come on court before troiki hit it.If you're calling that as the most controversial match ever, that's nowhere near.3-2 final set first point hardly affected the outcome of the match.Besides it's in the rules about encroaching on the court while in play other than the players.Umpire had to call a let.It's unfortunate for the ball boy & troiki but you can't overturn a ruling.
Good sportsmanship concedes that point as an obvious foregone conclusion. After that point I lost all respect for him and always rooted for him to lose. Felt so bad for the ball boy. You can see how terrible he was feeling.
Murray was notorious for chasing down slam after slam. The ball boy may have distracted Murray too. Didn’t he lose that game anyway though? (So zero impact)
Rules are rules, so the point should be replayed by the letter of the law. But Murray had an opportunity to display sportsmanship in that situation, and he chose not to do so. Which is one of the many reasons why I will never consider him one of the Greats of tennis.
How is this cheating? Court hindrance it’s an automatic point replay. I do feel bad for the kid, it’s clear by his expression that he was very upset. People bashing the kid and wanting him removed should be ashamed of themselves.
On the whole he was a gentleman the very most of his carrer. They are extremely exited as professional champions and suddenly they can't avoid how champions are: Selfish. To be a tennis champion, a f1 champion or Batistuta or Halalland at football. You need a certain amount of selfinesh to be a winner. They try to behave well but sometimes they don't resist. Sir Andy Murray. Brought back a grand slam title to the country that created tennis after a long time.
Murray HAS sportsmanship, his handshake with Thiem in their most recent match says it. Maybe 12 years ago he doesn't. You gotta admit no one saw that ballkid coming. The umpire dealt with it correctly. It belongs to the same type of hindrance of animals running into the court
???? Without rules there is not sport!! I know many don't like rules but we see what the lack of rules generates... But the rule number one on any field is to give it all!! Congrats Murray! Courageous and resilient!!! Great job!
Andy Murray did NOT cheat! Murray had no control over the ball boy error walking onto the court nor the pigeons flying nearby. It was a close match that could have gone either way.
@@zazu9117 Fair play does NOT apply when a ball boy enters the court during play ... the point simply has to be played again. Fair play comes into play when a ball is called out, but clearly was in and the opponent acknowledges this by correcting the error made and giving the point. Keep in mind that this is a money match and all points count.
@@mauriceharting5877 Andy clearly lost that point. If you ever played competitive tennis you would know that. Yes, the letter of the law was followed but that doesn't mean Murray couldn't have conceded the point. Tennis is a sport where the player can concede points if they feel like there has been a wrong done. (Clearly, replaying the point that Murray lost is wrong.) So in fact, the players have the power to overrule the judgement of the umpire and so the majority of officiating is in fact cooperative. We have to remember that no one's perfect and that Murray is typically a player who values fair play but just not in this instance. Not one of the better moments in his career.
Murray should have conceded the point, it's not that it's unfair from him tho but it's a lack of sportmanship, point was over, Troicki hit the ball way too far from him, it's obvious he wanted to win that match especially in a 5th sets, but the decision is unfair to Troicki, it was more unfair to replay the point for Troicki than it would have been unfair for Murray to lose the point Replay the point is unfair to Troicki, it's great that he won that game cuz it was justice for loosing it because Murray lacked of sportmanship. Otherwise, i do not really appreciate Nadal but many people should literally shut their mouths in the comment section
@@Michael-Boyer It's honestly the same as when a line judge calls a ball out at the same time and the player complains about it after they found out it was finally in when he had no any chance to reach it to be honest.
@@ijump-bounce2283 same time as what? Which player? It’s not quite the same either as this point was still live. But it’s up to the umpire’s discretion sometimes, just like any other sport.
@@Michael-Boyer same time as when the player is about to hit or hit the winner but the opponent's ball was called out when it bounced then it was finally in etc. Nishikori and Pablo in AO is a good example in their final super tie-break, but in this cqse, the umpire still gave the point to Nishikori which was the good decision to make
Shame on Murray. He should have done double fault and show his sportmanship. I definitely change my opinion about him after this shame. It is not a question of cheating, it is a question of being honest, instead of stay silent and replay the point as if nothing would have happened.Greetings from Rome Italy
The Ref applied the letter of the law. But sometimes you can't apply the law in Black and White. At this point, Murray should have given him the point. But that's just me. Karma came around and bit Murray in the Hip. Now he ain't winning thit. JMHO.
so murray doesn't like it when Djokovic didn't concede him the point in Miami because of going over the net but he doesn't do it in this instance. Interesting.
You can understand the tension. It's the French Open, the most wide open of all the slams, with no clear favorite and everyone with a good chance of winning a Slam.
I remember this match and good to watch it again but how exactly could it be construed as Murray cheating? Unless he paid the ball kid to run on court whenever Troiki went for a smash? Maybe he paid off the wind at the US open semi finals in 2012 too? 😂
Okay, the ball boy made a stupid mistake, but it didn't affect the outcome in the end. Troicki nevertheless took the serve from Murray after the error and led 5:2 shortly after. The fact that he didn't finish the match had nothing to do with a mistake or that Murray might have cheated, but it was simply up to him.
ok, after soo many times the YT algorithm suggest this specific video to me... I finally watched it. Despite me knowing. Well... your canl info says: "Hi, my name is Wivo, a guy who's trying to make people's lives a little bit better just through Tennis videos..." ok. You just made mine worse by wasting my time. :)
@@noahhenderson3164 Djokovic Nadal FO 2014: Djokovic made a double fault on match point, because of distraction. But Nadal did not let to replay the point
Can someone explain the problem to a dullard? I didn’t see that outburst shown at the beginning. And no verbal explanation for us slow people. At which point in the match did the problem occur? Was Troiki’s outburst in the video? Thnx to anyone who takes the time.
Hi Joyce! It's a famous Troicki clip from an old Wimbledon match, probably the most famous moment of his career. Just search youtube for this video "Victor Troicki Wimbledon meltdown" it's a 34 second video.
Did Murray cheat? I don't think so. I think importantly, the game ended up going to Victor anyway, so Andy got no benefit from it in the short term. The officials make the calls, and while a player might give up a point, Andy actually stopped moving. Movement from an opponent can affect where you choose to hit the ball; if the point was still live, Andy might have faked moving one way, and enticed a shot right back to him. Anything might have happened, we just don't know.
I played in a local USTA tournament on clay, and a similar thing happened. I made 3 really good gets in a row, running side to side, but the third was a short lob, that would have been an very makable putaway overhead. A ball rolled on to the court, and I called a LET, just as he was about to hit the overhead. We had to play it over. He was gracious about it, knew I had made a legit LET call. I could have conceded the point, but hey, I had just run down three, and wasn't giving up on number four. The ball was on my side of the net.
@@joemarshall4226 overhead smashes are not always guaranteed, even if it looks very makable. Smashes are one of the most difficult shots to make especially when under pressure. I think you made the right choice as it still could have gone either way regardless.
That point aside, Troicki had Murray on the ropes. It’s his fault alone he couldn’t close after being up a break in the 5th. That point didn’t matter in the long run.
Murray should have conceded that point
Yes, with a simple double fault. That would have been sportsmanship.
It was just one match, not a big deal, some you win some you loose. But personality trait stays forever. Murray could and should give him that point.
Right !!! "Sir" Murray...
Well, I made it through the whole video. I think there were maybe 8 seconds of controversy. I could probably find hundreds of more controversial matches. And at no point did Murray ever look like he was cheating, other than his loud dad grunts.
Agreed!
No, he didn't cheat but at the time when the ballkid entered into the court he should be more sportsmanlike and give the point to Troicki.
@@theodoreprapas5974 that's the umpire's fault
@@caioscofield This is what is called FAIRPLAY and is what all athletes should follow....
Murray had an amazing opportunity to show what FAIRPLAY is, and this would still be remembered today, he should have given the next point to his opponent... Pity !
disagree, the rule is what matters... fairplay is for different kinds of moments
@@watchman1969 yes but still, this would have been an amazing emotional moment shared by the whole stadium ;)
Roddick did this already against Verdasco on a match point and he lost the game... almost no one really remember it...
1. Don't think anyone would remember it, this is fundamentally no different from an incorrect line call that gets challenged and they replay the point even though the player whose shot was called out was about to win the point, and that happens almost daily. It's unusual that the ballboy caused the let, but it is always a replay the point whether you are 1% to win it or 99% to win it from there..
2. If you think that, if the situation was reversed then your opponent would give you that point back then maybe you just concede the replay, but with no disrespect to Troicki, I'm not sure he would have done that. So you're asking Murray to give up a point which he potentially wouldn't be given in the reverse situation. In that scenario it's maybe best to just play by the rules imo.
(NB. Not the same as the Hantuchova incident where Kerber absolutely should have said something because the umpire clearly got the rules wrong and Kerber knew it, in my mind definitely cheating by her in that case.)
@@R3lo still it was a class gesture
I haven't seen this match before. Thank you for uploading. This was really really great. I had no idea Viktor Troicki such a great player was.
Glad you enjoyed!
At what point would Murray have been accused of cheating?
The whole channel is a joke.
@@MarcyTrinidad me too, it's also bad for people's repetition because not everybody watches the old video.
He released the pigeons at 7:14
@@MickLoud999 LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
It's the hate Murray group of Millennials. Get over it.
I only played Tennis for one semester in junior college but I fell in love with it. I needed an antacid after watching this. Two warriors leaving their guts on the court. I felt so terrible for the ballboy's error running in before play had ended. That's a lot of pressure to deal with for a youngster to feel he has effected such a close match by his mistake. I hope he shakes it off.
Great match! Unfortunately Troicki choked on his match points.
never had a match point wtf are you talking about?
Controversial Tennis Match??? Far from it. Unfortunate incident where the ball boy runs on in to the playing area at the point of Victor playing a smash. Murray has no control over the decisions made. There have been far worse incidents than this one. The most controversial tennis player of all time has to be John McEnroe and his verbal tirade at every chair person shouting 'you cannot be serious'! in a match between McEnroe and Borg in 1981. Or Tim Henman and Jeremy Bates becoming the first British Tennis players to be disqualified following Tim Henman's accidently hitting a ball girl in the ear in 2012.
yeah, but it makes andy a bad sport... lacking class.
@tomr6955 probably, but Troicki won that game anyway so fortunately it didn't prove crucial.
Don't forget Serena threatening to murder a lines person.
22:05 no Murray didn’t cheat. The rule is clear. Same happened with Federer Vs Zverev, when the ball kid dropped the ball at WTF 2018
No cheating, but one can make a good case for (very) poor sportsmanship.
@@Jari_Sanou very
@@Jari_Sanou Djokovic Nadal FO 2014: Djokovic made a double fault on match point, because of distraction.
But Nadal did not let to replay the point
@@thebigmonstaandy6644 There has been like only two times the player gave the point for a hindrance during the serve in tennis.
@@ijump-bounce2283 For example Fish have it Nadal at USO2008
At 23:11 Troicki says:”the most stupid kid of the decade”
I despise players who are rude to ball kids. Troiki is a jerk just like Ostapenko, Azarenka, Medvedev. Bush league BS
yeah..i wanted to point that out too
and ..i guess it was him hahah
30 0 serve for tha match and lose like that.
who is stupid ..lets ask ourselves..
ROBBERY OF THE CENTURY!!! 1st thing- How did ballboy influenced on that single point (needed to be repeated??- Wolley of tricki was so UNCATCHEABLE- ball landed 50feet from Murray and bounced even further- in the last raw of the court)!!! So how would Murray been able to BE on THAT perticulare BALL!??? NO NEED TO REPEAT the POINT!!! NOT MENTIONING ROBBERY that happened to the same player (Viktor Troicki, cause i was watching LIVE that math) in WIMBLEDON... Ball was flatened out-SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU COULD HEAR a WEIRD BOUNCE-SOUND!!! And YET AGAIN- Robbery of the century- "BOOK WRITERS COULD WRITE a SUPERSELLER BOOK out of IT"- "Robbery of TEnnis player- V.TROICKY"- probably the "BESTSELLER" in the last 9 decades!!! What a weird surcomstances happening around Viktors game, carrier, at the end- How can you continue to play tennis, if you always excpect to be somehow ROBBED!!! I feel so sorry for that guy, like he is my relative, my family!!! Sorry VIKTOR, (tješi se, makar na način..: Samo vi kradite i lažite,ali pravda vidi put, - " evo vam ga NA, zato će vas NOLE SVE ZATUĆ NA TERENU"...;-) I tako BI..I JOŠ TRAJE ,heh Eto bar neke satisfakcije!!
jesse pinkman sure got better at tennis
wait.. when did Jesse Pinkman play pro tennis?
I wanna hug the ball boy. Poor kid.
Yea no -- the problem with bending the rule as absolute is that it creates absurd results. Code is not common law where it is situational. You can't have a FINE LINE separate 1000 situations in half -- the line needs to be huge black and clear and you notice if you follow the rule, it separates the 1000 situations in half but clearly... Any on court hindrance is a replay.
There was no cheating!! Your click-bait strategy is really distasteful. For that it's a big DISLIKE and not subscription.
Murray didnt cheat. But this is top tier unsportsmanlike behaviour lol. "But but it is a let". Bro dude won the f-cking point. Give him the point.
Murray 1000% should have conceded the point. Just as bad as not calling a double bounce.
Yeah, I feel this too, especially for the sake of the ball kid (who was on the verge of tears). In a perfect world, Murray would have conceded the point, gone and ruffled up the ball kid's hair to make him laugh, then gotten on with the match as a proper knight would do.
I dont see any cheating!
Caption is a bit clickbaitey - hardly the most controversial ever
welcome to TH-cam's clickbait title rewarding algorithm
100% Murray should have conceded the point. Ball kid should have been removed from the court immediately.
Calm down loser. The ball boy made a mistake, it could have happened to anybody.
ANDY MURRAY DID NOT CHEAT ❤
Troicki won that game later.
Sadly, this loss derailed Troicki's head and made a huge impact on his head.
Had he won, he would be Top10 with QF points.
No the ball kid shouldn’t have been removed. He made a small mistake. Grow up
@@mariecooper8113 I never said he did. I said he should have conceded the point.
I never stood Murray: ugly game, not fair-play and arrogant
Nadal calling Sonego to the net was worse
why?
Murray actually did nothing wrong. Unfortunate for troicki though troicki still won that game. It would’ve been good sportsmanship to concede the point but it’s not poor sportsmanship to not.
Nada’s behavior was ridiculous towards sonego trying to bully him, especially when he’s also grunting wildly too.
Not even close.
@@Michael-Boyer yes, but he could tell the umpire to give the point to Troicki as it was fully deserved
@@zedalive4764 could’ve but not obligated and not necessary. Point was still live when hindrance happened. Rules say play a let.
If ball kids continue to get in the way of players, the tournament should reevaluate the need for ball kids.
Only "cheat" here is title of post. In Russia, you post this and fall out of window on accident.
I've still got that Andy Murray Adidas tshirt 😂
Murray is just a bystander. Nothing to do with him. The Umpire should have played a Let & put the ballboy in the stocks! Poor lad.
Yes, Murray didn't cheat. He just has no sportsmanship. Never had, never will have.
not a cheater.. murray is just not a gentleman, no sportsmanship, and proper w4nk3r
Nobody cheated. Ballkid running into the court during the ball is in play is just a "Let". These are the rules of tennis. "Accidents like that happen a lot espeacially on lower levels like Futures and Challengers with unexperienced ballkids. Should not happen at Grand Slam Level though. But the kid thought Troicki put the smash away and the rally was finished. We should feel with the kid in that moment that realized immediately what happened.
Yep. This was back when Murray was a bit twatty and troitski obviously a much bigger one.
Yep. Murray should have shown some sportsmanship - he wasn't distracted by the ball kid and clearly lost the point. Poor from him.
@@elicastelli9728 It is not an act of lacking sportsmanship if the other player in an incident like that is not conceding the point. What would you do if Troicki misshit the smash? I was a professional umpire for more than 15 years and I go 100 procent with Pascals decision. It is a very unlucky situation but shit happens a lot on tennis courts.
@@jochenknobel8175 It was un-sportsman of Murray not to give Troicki the point. If anyone was distracted by the ballboy it was Troicki. So had he missed of course, replay the point. So, yes the correct decision was made by the umpire. If Murray had an ounce of honesty in him, he would have said "you won the point fair and square" - he wasn't distracted by the ballboy's innocent mistake and had zero chance of getting it back. Nadal, Stan, Monfils, etc.....would have conceded that in a sportsmanlike fashion.
@@elicastelli9728 I am with you and your opinion. But as I said, I had these situations a lot in my 15 years and not one player ever conceded a point in a similar situation. We wait and see if something like that happens in a Nadal, Monfils etc. match and how they will react.
Maybe just change the video title to: "A Murray Classic". I really enjoyed reliving this match it was a good'n!
Like the commentators said, common sense would award the point, but the rules say differently, nothing controversial here.
I don’t quite get the point. Troicki still won the game where the incident happened. So how did it affect the outcome?
The birds are paid actors.. what a match !
Ball kid too
I just wonder what the boy was thinking at that moment, why did he run into the court?
Did Andy Murray wink at the ball boy to come on court before troiki hit it.If you're calling that as the most controversial match ever, that's nowhere near.3-2 final set first point hardly affected the outcome of the match.Besides it's in the rules about encroaching on the court while in play other than the players.Umpire had to call a let.It's unfortunate for the ball boy & troiki but you can't overturn a ruling.
Good sportsmanship concedes that point as an obvious foregone conclusion. After that point I lost all respect for him and always rooted for him to lose.
Felt so bad for the ball boy. You can see how terrible he was feeling.
Wonderfull match, but the title is misleading. Nothing controversial here, nobody is cheating. Just a poor ballboy who made a mistake.
Murray was notorious for chasing down slam after slam. The ball boy may have distracted Murray too. Didn’t he lose that game anyway though? (So zero impact)
At least Murray doesn’t hold up the server constantly and grunt ridiculously loud like Rafael does.
Puutting only a question mark over a statement doesn’t give you freedom to such serious allegations. Poor captioning to the video.
Cheating is a bad word even if we do.
Let’s make new word Gamesmanship. 😂😂😂
7:14 distracting pigeon alert
I mean 5th set at the French Open, you're taking anything you can get.
Troicki reminds me of jesse pinkman, and hisenberg murry just showed him who is the boss
Rules are rules, so the point should be replayed by the letter of the law. But Murray had an opportunity to display sportsmanship in that situation, and he chose not to do so. Which is one of the many reasons why I will never consider him one of the Greats of tennis.
This title was clickbait. It had nothing to do with Murray cheating. Great game, but spoiled by the title.
Without that title, it would've been impossible for you to even find this video. That's how it works nowadays unfortunately.
@@WivoRN , you are justifying deceit? 😑
I finally can watch this match, it has been impossible due to copyright. Dude be carefull they might block this upload.
Not in the least 'controversial'. Title is click bate.
clickbait*
How is this cheating?
Court hindrance it’s an automatic point replay. I do feel bad for the kid, it’s clear by his expression that he was very upset. People bashing the kid and wanting him removed should be ashamed of themselves.
Good reason why I hate Andy Murray.
On the whole he was a gentleman the very most of his carrer. They are extremely exited as professional champions and suddenly they can't avoid how champions are: Selfish. To be a tennis champion, a f1 champion or Batistuta or Halalland at football. You need a certain amount of selfinesh to be a winner. They try to behave well but sometimes they don't resist. Sir Andy Murray. Brought back a grand slam title to the country that created tennis after a long time.
Novak concedes points when he disagrees with the call and has even been incorrect when doing so. Yet he's a champion.
@@aahyes9068 some of his attitudes are sometimes being complained too
He didn't cheat of course, he had the chance to show a bit of class, but he's got his limitations, he's no Djokovic
This statement (inferring Djokovic has class) is more controversial than the tennis match 😅
fantastic match
Murray HAS sportsmanship, his handshake with Thiem in their most recent match says it. Maybe 12 years ago he doesn't. You gotta admit no one saw that ballkid coming. The umpire dealt with it correctly. It belongs to the same type of hindrance of animals running into the court
4:05 what did he say lmao
Did he cheat? Is he British? Is water wet?
clickbait BS. There's no cheating in this match.
???? Without rules there is not sport!! I know many don't like rules but we see what the lack of rules generates... But the rule number one on any field is to give it all!! Congrats Murray! Courageous and resilient!!! Great job!
Andy Murray did NOT cheat! Murray had no control over the ball boy error walking onto the court nor the pigeons flying nearby. It was a close match that could have gone either way.
Have you or him ever heard of fairplay?
@@zazu9117 Yes, I know what fair play means in tennis, but I also know that rules have to be followed.
@@mauriceharting5877 They followed rules, that is not in question. Murray could follow fair play also, but he didn't. That is all.
@@zazu9117 Fair play does NOT apply when a ball boy enters the court during play ... the point simply has to be played again.
Fair play comes into play when a ball is called out, but clearly was in and the opponent acknowledges this by correcting the error made and giving the point.
Keep in mind that this is a money match and all points count.
@@mauriceharting5877 Andy clearly lost that point. If you ever played competitive tennis you would know that. Yes, the letter of the law was followed but that doesn't mean Murray couldn't have conceded the point. Tennis is a sport where the player can concede points if they feel like there has been a wrong done. (Clearly, replaying the point that Murray lost is wrong.) So in fact, the players have the power to overrule the judgement of the umpire and so the majority of officiating is in fact cooperative. We have to remember that no one's perfect and that Murray is typically a player who values fair play but just not in this instance. Not one of the better moments in his career.
Murray should have conceded the point, it's not that it's unfair from him tho but it's a lack of sportmanship, point was over, Troicki hit the ball way too far from him, it's obvious he wanted to win that match especially in a 5th sets, but the decision is unfair to Troicki, it was more unfair to replay the point for Troicki than it would have been unfair for Murray to lose the point
Replay the point is unfair to Troicki, it's great that he won that game cuz it was justice for loosing it because Murray lacked of sportmanship.
Otherwise, i do not really appreciate Nadal but many people should literally shut their mouths in the comment section
It’s the rules. There’s an umpires there. Not poor sportsmanship by Murray. Just unfortunate occurrence.
@@Michael-Boyer
It's honestly the same as when a line judge calls a ball out at the same time and the player complains about it after they found out it was finally in when he had no any chance to reach it to be honest.
@@ijump-bounce2283 same time as what? Which player?
It’s not quite the same either as this point was still live. But it’s up to the umpire’s discretion sometimes, just like any other sport.
@@Michael-Boyer same time as when the player is about to hit or hit the winner but the opponent's ball was called out when it bounced then it was finally in etc.
Nishikori and Pablo in AO is a good example in their final super tie-break, but in this cqse, the umpire still gave the point to Nishikori which was the good decision to make
@@ijump-bounce2283 not sure what your point is or exactly what you’re saying. But this isn’t the same as troicki/Murray.
Shame on Murray. He should have done double fault and show his sportmanship. I definitely change my opinion about him after this shame. It is not a question of cheating, it is a question of being honest, instead of stay silent and replay the point as if nothing would have happened.Greetings from Rome Italy
Another clickbait. I think the most "controversial" is the way you caught People.
This is the most controversial Chanel i ever blocked.😂😂😂😂
It’s not cheating it’s called playing by the rules
Troicki was up 5-2 in the 5th set. Ball boy or Murray not giving him the point had nothing to do with him losing.
Super match !
Tennis !
both deserved to win
No the MOST by far.
Troicki, one of the greatest talents ever with the weakest nerves ever, it's a shame.
Cheating? Where?
If andy murray was a good sport he would have conceded the point... that's blatantly obvious. 22:10
no Murray didn’t cheat, great Andy
Andy sucks!!😊
Well Djokovic avenged his countryman in 2016 FO final 😂. Shame on you sir Andy for your mind manipulation of that kid. Shame on you 🤣🤣
The Ref applied the letter of the law. But sometimes you can't apply the law in Black and White. At this point, Murray should have given him the point. But that's just me. Karma came around and bit Murray in the Hip. Now he ain't winning thit. JMHO.
so murray doesn't like it when Djokovic didn't concede him the point in Miami because of going over the net but he doesn't do it in this instance. Interesting.
And it was irrelevant, he ended up winning that game, so the ballkid entering the court did not matter at all!
good point
You can understand the tension. It's the French Open, the most wide open of all the slams, with no clear favorite and everyone with a good chance of winning a Slam.
🤣🤣🤣
Why is this video so long? 30 minutes to find out whether Murray cheated or not??
I remember this match and good to watch it again but how exactly could it be construed as Murray cheating? Unless he paid the ball kid to run on court whenever Troiki went for a smash? Maybe he paid off the wind at the US open semi finals in 2012 too? 😂
Okay, the ball boy made a stupid mistake, but it didn't affect the outcome in the end. Troicki nevertheless took the serve from Murray after the error and led 5:2 shortly after. The fact that he didn't finish the match had nothing to do with a mistake or that Murray might have cheated, but it was simply up to him.
Hahah this is NOT a controversial match cmoun..
No Andy didn’t cheat.he was just too good.
Well Trotsky won that game anyway so it made no difference.
Murray did 😂
Clickbait.
very click baity
ok, after soo many times the YT algorithm suggest this specific video to me... I finally watched it. Despite me knowing.
Well...
your canl info says:
"Hi, my name is Wivo, a guy who's trying to make people's lives a little bit better just through Tennis videos..."
ok. You just made mine worse by wasting my time. :)
sooo you clickbaited me on 30min video to watch nothing controversial during the match? good bye to your channel then
“Most controversial ever”? Really WIVO?
Sorry mate 😂😭
Bollocks
Ganz schwach von Murray
Didn't take Murray as a unsportsman like fella. Sad to see
This was not Andy Murray's fault.
@@mariecooper8113 yes it was lol. Murray could have easily said "yeah dude hit in it, I wasnt even close to the ball. Easily his point"
@@noahhenderson3164 exactly. Scottish cheapskate xD
@@noahhenderson3164 Djokovic Nadal FO 2014: Djokovic made a double fault on match point, because of distraction.
But Nadal did not let to replay the point
@@VidZeen You’re a racist.
Alcaraz, Rudd and probably with a 'comfortable lead', even Djokovic would also have conceded that point!
so clickbait
Can someone explain the problem to a dullard? I didn’t see that outburst shown at the beginning. And no verbal explanation for us slow people. At which point in the match did the problem occur? Was Troiki’s outburst in the video? Thnx to anyone who takes the time.
Hi Joyce! It's a famous Troicki clip from an old Wimbledon match, probably the most famous moment of his career.
Just search youtube for this video "Victor Troicki Wimbledon meltdown" it's a 34 second video.
@@WivoRN Thanks! 😍
@@joycesmeltzer1705 there is a viktor troicki meltdown compilation too... He was right every time
Did Murray cheat? I don't think so. I think importantly, the game ended up going to Victor anyway, so Andy got no benefit from it in the short term. The officials make the calls, and while a player might give up a point, Andy actually stopped moving. Movement from an opponent can affect where you choose to hit the ball; if the point was still live, Andy might have faked moving one way, and enticed a shot right back to him. Anything might have happened, we just don't know.
I played in a local USTA tournament on clay, and a similar thing happened. I made 3 really good gets in a row, running side to side, but the third was a short lob, that would have been an very makable putaway overhead. A ball rolled on to the court, and I called a LET, just as he was about to hit the overhead. We had to play it over. He was gracious about it, knew I had made a legit LET call. I could have conceded the point, but hey, I had just run down three, and wasn't giving up on number four. The ball was on my side of the net.
@@joemarshall4226 overhead smashes are not always guaranteed, even if it looks very makable. Smashes are one of the most difficult shots to make especially when under pressure. I think you made the right choice as it still could have gone either way regardless.
@@ubozlee Especially on clay.
There is no controversial thing in this match... Stop puting click baiting title....
Don´t confuse tennis fans. Murray didn´t cheat. The umpire was right. No controversy, because rules are clear.
That point aside, Troicki had Murray on the ropes. It’s his fault alone he couldn’t close after being up a break in the 5th.
That point didn’t matter in the long run.
It's not hard to have Murray on the ropes, just push back against the pusher, but change length and direction at the same time.
Andy Murray did not cheat ❤
Nothing really controversial in this match tbh. Murray could have conceded the point, BUT he didn't really had to do it.
23:08 "The dumbest kid of the decade" 😅
Until the ball girl that got Miyu Kato disqualified. What is it with French Open ball kids not paying attention?