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I think BWF must make new rules. Let there be challenge whenever the player and judge don't agree each other. Like the last one, it's will be too painful for Ginting. Clearly he didn't foul. And also these umpires need to be penalised for their bad judgement, even players got penalised due to misbehaviour.
Umpire call for Ginting's was correct. Watch the match here th-cam.com/video/TM8tacwHwV0/w-d-xo.html . Change the speed to the lowest at 1:26:52 , and you can see Ginting's racket was over the net.
Honestly in today’s world with improvements in technology why dont we have fully machine guided line calls for these international tournaments… why at all rely on humans who are prone to make errors.
what's strange was how Beijing was able to have its own empire to oversee the match. Empire is supposed to be from a 3rd country (so there won't be any bias toward any individual/team in the match) th-cam.com/video/TiL9-ofibGo/w-d-xo.html
does the umpire even know how hard is to even score one point in badminton?.... umpires should be penalised heavily or even suspended so that they get very cautious atleast next time...
Replays are only for challanges and they can only did it twice (if you got one wrong there will be no challenge remaining but if you got it right it won't). Umpire is an umpire but they're also a human like us, but they should get a punishment for their mistakes smh🤷♂️
@@cliftonlimzhixuan0923 Of course we know the rules. I'm just going to leave this here for you: Official BWF full match here. Tiemstamp 7:35 . th-cam.com/video/TiL9-ofibGo/w-d-xo.html He's from China. We know they shouldn't be.
The Line judges need not to exist😒 And The umpire's nation should be different to both players👎Like Takahashi and Matsutomo, We must fight not only opponent-players.
the umpire who was not giving a challenge even the player still have a challenge in hand was smoking weed before he went to the court😂🤣😂🤣 ...stupid call
The worst one I've seen is Lee Wan Wah and Choong Tan Fook Vs Martin Lungaard Hansen and Jens Eriksen 2004 All England back then no challenges and you couldn't overrule the line call. It affected the outcome/ result of the match in favour of the Danish combination.
How to solve that controversy? Just let officials supervisor check it, any cheating attempt will be stopped right away. And also, extra 1 screen for video replay, just same like VAR (Video Assist Referee)
Disappointed in the opponents who knew the truth but said nothing. Guess bad calls average out over time but still would like to see sporting behaviour.
If the line judge gets a basic salary then I can understand. But I'm sure the referee makes a handsome amount - there should be definite penalty for such poor performance.
line judges and referees don't make money. They are rich old people who has lots of time on their time to do stuffs like this (oh and with pretty large ego to go with them). Can't complain when they need side money for a nice meal or gas money.
Dear Umpire, pls look at all this clips and be ashamed of yourself. To all referee, dont forget that being a referee is to make sure the game is fair for the patient. Everyone are there to watch a good and fair game; not there to watch you acting like a king and as if you are always right
I want to know, is there any action that can be taken if the decision made by the referee is really wrong. ? Such as fines or any action that can make refree more sensitive and careful of their actions.?
I wonder what would happen with the umpire after the controversial calls? Any sanctions from BWF? Anyone knows? The umpire of the game between Lin Dan VS Jorgensen made lots of mistakes in one game. BWF should take his license as an umpire.
I don't know of any sanctions. What I do know is that an umpire gets a lot of evaluations. But in my opinion the assessors prefer often a good presentation above making good decisions. You can see that happen in this video. I know this because I have been umpire for a while, on a lower level than this.
So painful to watch. Sometimes I wonder if these umpires or line or service judges even play badminton. Badminton rules are archaic and needs to be changed. Umpire calls cannot be over ruled even if video playback shows an obvious error. Like challenges, video playback should be allowed like 2 a game.
Most umpires I knew were playing badminton on a really low level or were not playing at all. That can indeed be a problem, not always. In my childhood I often had an umpire at matches and he said the following to me:"I can't play badminton, I am really bad in that, but I like to umpire." And he has made mistakes in my matches, but most of the times he was not prejudiced to any player. He made faults on both sides. And if he had made a fault he admitted it after the game. Therefore the players respected him, I never heard players complaining about him. This umpire has led one England Open Men's Singles final years ago and stopped about 10 years ago. Unfortunately, not every umpire is like this. So I agree with you.
With the advance technology and umpire seems to make genuine mistake, it's about time that the challenge should not be restricted to only a few. Let's every dispute be challenged if they are confident of it. Penalise them if the player got it wrong eg. two point awarded to the opponent.
I know these umpires get years and years of education and training, before getting on this level. Despite of this there are indeed really bad umpires between them.
Why is the umpire’s decision absolute? Is it not allowed to review the footage before making the final decision whenever a player challenge? The umpires are also human they can make mistakes they cannot see everything from every angle that is why there are cameras everywhere. It is not fair for the player who works hard by imposing one’s decision just because the umpire can. I think it is a form of bullying, don’t you think 🤔
Athletes at the professional level have worked too hard for their game to be ruined by something as lame sauce as this What Bwf can do for super events is for a official to be sitting elsewhere,with a camera in the court,or simply put sensors everywhere or something lol
Hopefully contents like this with the voice of commentator in the back will make the umpire and line judges have a better morality in a match that sometimes mean everything for the players. Shame on unfair umpire!
i dont understand why theres a problem with looking at a replay or anything at all when the shuttle is close to the net, as long as the players want to see it... its bs that theres a referee saying you cant challenge etc, it should be allowed to have as many challenges as possible because of what it makes of the match result
As a player, I’m amazed at the lack of sportsmanship in these videos. The opponent should really be speaking up on their behalf. Axelsen has the right idea giving up a point.
Bangkelah yg terakhir diputar lagi..but, actually lee cheuk yiu got the same situation in toyota thailand open 2020 (happened in 2021) quarter final vs hans vittinghus
Should have included the 2 arrogant Danish Women's Doubles pair at the olympics who won Silver. Cheated and bulldozed their way through. Luckily the Japanese pair won gold.
@@badminton_rally That pair also got hit by the shuttle in the skirt in YAE 2018 final, 1st game, deciding point. The shuttle hit Zhangnan forehead in a match vs Kamura/Sonoda also (2018 or 2019 I think)
A good example of people being paid to do the job but having their eyes and minds away from the game, didn't see when they are suppose to see but stick to their 'assumed' decision, knowing that the umpire and line judges are final. The faces of these careless officials should be immediately viralled on the social medias and their licences should be suspended immediately. The ones in the Indian Open (Indian umpire and line judges) is the most obvious. Opponent players who knew that their shots are wide but called in by the line judge or the umpire should allow the point to their opponents as an act of fair play. Those who don't should be ashamed of themselves. If having a bad umpire and line judges calls is not bad enough it is made more shameful when the opponents takes the unworthy credit. Personally, I'm of the opinion that all umpires and line judges in this short videos deserve to be shamed in front of the world. They've been heartless and cold to justice. Had this not been a sport, they really deserved a shot in the heads.
Number 5 is really unfair match. China vs Japan and the umpire was a chinese person. That not allowed in the game but still.... I feel bad for those japanese for that game.
4:56 that was barbaric. Same umpire in 2018 BWF tour final against Sameer Verma have given a pathetic decision in 2 game match point. Jorgenese vs Lin Dan match seems one of the most controversial match in history. 😂
Number 5 is waaaayyy too fucked up!. They're not allowed to challenge? Why? And the Chinese players (and all the coaches) acted like they made 0 mistake hahaha what a shame
A Little mistake from kumar dharamsena in worldcup final costed NewZealand the worldcup and here the umpire are just sitting on the high chair and sleeping all through the match
This is a special video, but as a casual observer I would consider a badminton championship no more valid that a figure skating championship from Russian judges.
I would love to see a referee from the EPL refereeing the ECL finals between RM and LFC . Was the fact that the umpire was from China when a China player was one of the participants overlooked or was it done because of pressure from CCP China BA .
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Camera is everywhere and every angle is filmed. Line judges are kinda useless.
But it’s a difference between close calls and blindness (or not knowing the rules/to be able to count) ...
Umpires are also totally useless too!
@@green-grass. are you mean the player itself should count the points without umpire appearance? LoL 😆
Nowadays they can challange the decision to see camera evidence, so both works fine
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Just too painful to watch
I think BWF must make new rules. Let there be challenge whenever the player and judge don't agree each other. Like the last one, it's will be too painful for Ginting. Clearly he didn't foul. And also these umpires need to be penalised for their bad judgement, even players got penalised due to misbehaviour.
Can’t agree more.
Umpire call for Ginting's was correct. Watch the match here th-cam.com/video/TM8tacwHwV0/w-d-xo.html . Change the speed to the lowest at 1:26:52 , and you can see Ginting's racket was over the net.
Honestly in today’s world with improvements in technology why dont we have fully machine guided line calls for these international tournaments… why at all rely on humans who are prone to make errors.
what's strange was how Beijing was able to have its own empire to oversee the match.
Empire is supposed to be from a 3rd country (so there won't be any bias toward any individual/team in the match)
th-cam.com/video/TiL9-ofibGo/w-d-xo.html
does the umpire even know how hard is to even score one point in badminton?.... umpires should be penalised heavily or even suspended so that they get very cautious atleast next time...
i'm really pissed why they all not look at replay to see umpire is wrong?
Because we are pretty
Because it counts as a challenge
@@RXCI unless 2 challenges are wrong it’s fine to do as many
Replays are only for challanges and they can only did it twice (if you got one wrong there will be no challenge remaining but if you got it right it won't). Umpire is an umpire but they're also a human like us, but they should get a punishment for their mistakes smh🤷♂️
No.5 angers me the most. Japanese pair lost because of a bad umpire selection (from China) - even the commentator said it’s unfair bias.
yes the umpire is supposed to be from a third country (other than the players’)
The umpire can’t be from China since one of the players is from China. Do you really understand the rules?
@@cliftonlimzhixuan0923 Of course we know the rules. I'm just going to leave this here for you: Official BWF full match here. Tiemstamp 7:35 .
th-cam.com/video/TiL9-ofibGo/w-d-xo.html
He's from China. We know they shouldn't be.
That umpire is a complete asshole.
@@cliftonlimzhixuan0923 we all expect you to come back with an apology that you were rude AND wrong
Even the umpire also got nervous when Lin Dan plays 🔥
The Line judges need not to exist😒
And The umpire's nation should be different to both players👎Like Takahashi and Matsutomo, We must fight not only opponent-players.
Some of the people in this video needs to be fired and never allowed to participate in judging. Makes my blood boil.
the umpire who was not giving a challenge even the player still have a challenge in hand was smoking weed before he went to the court😂🤣😂🤣 ...stupid call
It hurts to see that sometimes umpire could really wreck one's hard work
It happens in all sports
What's worse to lose a game on the opponent's winning point by a bad call.
The worst one I've seen is Lee Wan Wah and Choong Tan Fook Vs Martin Lungaard Hansen and Jens Eriksen 2004 All England back then no challenges and you couldn't overrule the line call. It affected the outcome/ result of the match in favour of the Danish combination.
agreed when someone commenting too painful to watch... i couldnt finish the whole video😂
Not good for the youtube algorithm man... but i can understand haha
I couldn't finish it also.
5:58 because of Akhilesh Yadav..
😂
But few people tastes their own medicine.
I don't know why, but I feel that this is heartbreaking 🥺
The brice leverdez line call was legend!
At the Scottish open - I know the person who called it 😂
@@pleaseenteraname9414 yo can they line judge my games i will be world champion in no time
Why he didn't challenge?
@@tohmatochicken9013 maybe no challenge in small tournament or still doenst exist
lmao i dont know what was the line judge smoking
How to solve that controversy? Just let officials supervisor check it, any cheating attempt will be stopped right away.
And also, extra 1 screen for video replay, just same like VAR (Video Assist Referee)
Especially the service judges. They should have a replay for every decision made. To foul a service is so debatable.
They have to find new rules for serving, and also for receiving the service.
Number 5 is very ridiculous how can the umpire said no challenge
Disappointed in the opponents who knew the truth but said nothing.
Guess bad calls average out over time but still would like to see sporting behaviour.
I agree, but at Lee Chong Wei I wonder if his honesty affected his game after the incident.
That matsuma ine was so pissing off i would hv slapped that ump. Credit to them for showing such class
If the line judge gets a basic salary then I can understand.
But I'm sure the referee makes a handsome amount - there should be definite penalty for such poor performance.
Referees don't make a lot of money, ofcourse a lot means something different around the world but they are not there for the financial gain i think.
line judges and referees don't make money. They are rich old people who has lots of time on their time to do stuffs like this (oh and with pretty large ego to go with them). Can't complain when they need side money for a nice meal or gas money.
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I don't buy that.
Umpires are volunteers, but their flights, hotels, and meals are paid by the tournament. Line judges are local people, so only meals.
@@lting001 I know it is like this for lower-level tournaments, are the umpires at the biggest tournaments like All-England also volunteers?
I was watching that Matsutomo and Takahashi match when this happen and i felt very dissapoint as i was rooting for them to win the match
To these line judges : you have one job!
The fact that the other team is so selfish and just seemed like its none of their business as its their point is so disappointing
*coughs Chinese team
Dear Umpire, pls look at all this clips and be ashamed of yourself. To all referee, dont forget that being a referee is to make sure the game is fair for the patient. Everyone are there to watch a good and fair game; not there to watch you acting like a king and as if you are always right
For me better i smash umpire than i continue play
imma pass
Look at their friendship Lin Dan is explaining to Chong wei that it's out. Opponents dont do that you know.
Yeah, it shows that they trust each other's sportsmanship.
this is so heartbreaking to watch.
me trying not to get triggered at 2 am
3:23 axelsen's racquet is over the net
You mean under the net on the opponents court, that is allowed as long as he is not hindering the other player. Above the net there are other rules.
Bwf should appoint very qualified umpire and line judge. They should know the rules before make a decision
I want to know, is there any action that can be taken if the decision made by the referee is really wrong. ? Such as fines or any action that can make refree more sensitive and careful of their actions.?
I feel like the indian umpire wanted the indian to win instead of the chinese
There must be a second umpire in badminton as in the third umpire in cricket, sitting along with the commentators for a better view
This video could really make you angry...
I wonder what would happen with the umpire after the controversial calls? Any sanctions from BWF? Anyone knows?
The umpire of the game between Lin Dan VS Jorgensen made lots of mistakes in one game. BWF should take his license as an umpire.
I don't know of any sanctions. What I do know is that an umpire gets a lot of evaluations. But in my opinion the assessors prefer often a good presentation above making good decisions. You can see that happen in this video. I know this because I have been umpire for a while, on a lower level than this.
Umpires who spoil the player's mental like this should be suspended/banned too
Umpires be like :- Let's have some fun with Lin Dan🤣🤣😂
So painful to watch. Sometimes I wonder if these umpires or line or service judges even play badminton. Badminton rules are archaic and needs to be changed. Umpire calls cannot be over ruled even if video playback shows an obvious error. Like challenges, video playback should be allowed like 2 a game.
Most umpires I knew were playing badminton on a really low level or were not playing at all. That can indeed be a problem, not always. In my childhood I often had an umpire at matches and he said the following to me:"I can't play badminton, I am really bad in that, but I like to umpire." And he has made mistakes in my matches, but most of the times he was not prejudiced to any player. He made faults on both sides. And if he had made a fault he admitted it after the game. Therefore the players respected him, I never heard players complaining about him.
This umpire has led one England Open Men's Singles final years ago and stopped about 10 years ago.
Unfortunately, not every umpire is like this. So I agree with you.
8:54 horrible call smhhhhhh
Yeah, that has to be one of the worst at least from this replay
With the advance technology and umpire seems to make genuine mistake, it's about time that the challenge should not be restricted to only a few. Let's every dispute be challenged if they are confident of it. Penalise them if the player got it wrong eg. two point awarded to the opponent.
And if the umpire was wrong, he/she should be punished also with a fine or a dimerization marks
The 6 is the worst
Most umpires in this sport are underqualified for what they do.
I know these umpires get years and years of education and training, before getting on this level. Despite of this there are indeed really bad umpires between them.
Why is the umpire’s decision absolute? Is it not allowed to review the footage before making the final decision whenever a player challenge? The umpires are also human they can make mistakes they cannot see everything from every angle that is why there are cameras everywhere. It is not fair for the player who works hard by imposing one’s decision just because the umpire can. I think it is a form of bullying, don’t you think 🤔
Athletes at the professional level have worked too hard for their game to be ruined by something as lame sauce as this
What Bwf can do for super events is for a official to be sitting elsewhere,with a camera in the court,or simply put sensors everywhere or something lol
4:18 correct me if i am wrong but I'm pretty sure the hawkeye result came through after and it was actually in.
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when srikanth VS huang... we already know because its india...
and that chinese umpire too
Now that they have the Hawk-Eye technology, I don't think you need to have too much concern about Umpire mistakes
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The bad refree will not use again. Priceless
1:30 Why Jorgensen could not try the challenge?
I can't hear what their talk.
No.1 mistake you showed. Same happened with he bingjiao vs yamaguchi. More or less in same decisive moment of the game.
When Referee's eat S**t for breakfast, lunch. Snacks and Dinner
Hopefully contents like this with the voice of commentator in the back will make the umpire and line judges have a better morality in a match that sometimes mean everything for the players. Shame on unfair umpire!
I understand that umpires are human too and do make some small mistakes but that bald head umpire was literally sleeping.
I don't understand why umpires are old.
Referees and umpires should be young. With aging eyes it's difficult for old people to judge
With the age does come experience, but I get your point.
So when badminton will implement like var system like football or tennis.
umpires should be penalize for their bad decision
In these situations, usually the one gets the point will 'net' the next serve or purposely drive the shuttle out to lose a point.
i dont understand why theres a problem with looking at a replay or anything at all when the shuttle is close to the net, as long as the players want to see it... its bs that theres a referee saying you cant challenge etc, it should be allowed to have as many challenges as possible because of what it makes of the match result
That linesman for no 6 is sleeping thought it was doubles game😂
it took years to practice and this umpire just comes and sits there and like no no no no......
As a player, I’m amazed at the lack of sportsmanship in these videos. The opponent should really be speaking up on their behalf. Axelsen has the right idea giving up a point.
3:33 stupid line judge thought they playing double
It was still out
Bangkelah yg terakhir diputar lagi..but, actually lee cheuk yiu got the same situation in toyota thailand open 2020 (happened in 2021) quarter final vs hans vittinghus
Where are they watching in huang vs srikanth game ?
Ref dont know that full swing near net will cause it to move a lot if there is contact?
Few days before got the same out by the judge on tournament when it was 10 sm clear out. 2 times per game.
Nice videos
04:51 what happen?
they weren't allowed to challenge for some reason, even though they challenged immediately
He was a Chinese Umpire and was supporting to the Chinese pair
China money
Should have included the 2 arrogant Danish Women's Doubles pair at the olympics who won Silver. Cheated and bulldozed their way through. Luckily the Japanese pair won gold.
Thanks for the recommendation, i will look it up! Sadly Olympic videos are very copyright restrictive but maybe i can use it for a part 2.
@@badminton_rally That pair also got hit by the shuttle in the skirt in YAE 2018 final, 1st game, deciding point. The shuttle hit Zhangnan forehead in a match vs Kamura/Sonoda also (2018 or 2019 I think)
The last fault for the foot invading the opponent’s court.
If the shuttle is already landed you can even hit the net, that's the rule. From replay the shuttle is already touch the field so its not fault.
Even when the shuttle is in play you may invade the opponents court with your feet under the net as long as you do not hinder the other player.
A good example of people being paid to do the job but having their eyes and minds away from the game, didn't see when they are suppose to see but stick to their 'assumed' decision, knowing that the umpire and line judges are final. The faces of these careless officials should be immediately viralled on the social medias and their licences should be suspended immediately. The ones in the Indian Open (Indian umpire and line judges) is the most obvious. Opponent players who knew that their shots are wide but called in by the line judge or the umpire should allow the point to their opponents as an act of fair play. Those who don't should be ashamed of themselves. If having a bad umpire and line judges calls is not bad enough it is made more shameful when the opponents takes the unworthy credit.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that all umpires and line judges in this short videos deserve to be shamed in front of the world. They've been heartless and cold to justice. Had this not been a sport, they really deserved a shot in the heads.
Number 5 is really unfair match. China vs Japan and the umpire was a chinese person. That not allowed in the game but still.... I feel bad for those japanese for that game.
Everyone : booooo, dumb refereeing!
BPL football referees and VAR : hold my beer
For the last minute of video, there is music, may i know the title is?
Thank you for watching till the end. The song is "Endless Motion - Bensound"
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good job
they should review the footage before making a call or if the decision is uncertain
4:56 that was barbaric. Same umpire in 2018 BWF tour final against Sameer Verma have given a pathetic decision in 2 game match point.
Jorgenese vs Lin Dan match seems one of the most controversial match in history. 😂
Yeah, I agree. Jorgensen vs Lin Dan feels less bad since the difference was big in the sets. But those calls on matchpoint are outcome changing...
This is China money
I hope there no more umpire like that
3:47 pls that was waaayyy out 😭 I feel so bad for him
Please explain 9th part
Aren't players allowed to beat the shit out of them🤣
Number 5 is waaaayyy too fucked up!. They're not allowed to challenge? Why? And the Chinese players (and all the coaches) acted like they made 0 mistake hahaha what a shame
It is either happen in Europe or when the home countrymen/women played which are more possible to happen
A Little mistake from kumar dharamsena in worldcup final costed NewZealand the worldcup and here the umpire are just sitting on the high chair and sleeping all through the match
No4 is totally a bias
What is the background music at the end of video, plz ?
Endless Motion from Bensound
I swear these umpires and line judges needs to get fired. They can't even do their jobs properly. 🤦♀️
So... do the umpires/linesmen that made wrong calls apologize or admit or get fine or whatever...
This is a special video, but as a casual observer I would consider a badminton championship no more valid that a figure skating championship from Russian judges.
this kinda stuff makes my blood boil... umpires should have their own fault counts each season for bad calls..
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I would love to see a referee from the EPL refereeing the ECL finals between RM and LFC .
Was the fact that the umpire was from China when a China player was one of the participants overlooked or was it done because of pressure from CCP China BA .
line umpire and tournament umpire are from the same stock
Umpire think they are perfect and would never missed sight of anything!!!