Tech!!! 2009-2014 Dodge Ram 5.7 Hemi Cam & Lifter Failure. Facts....Not Theories

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  • @simonac850
    @simonac850 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just do cam/lifters job this week... first of all, you got to switch from 5W20 to 5W30 or, me i use 5W40.
    Second, i never get any codes, but, what i saw when doing the job, is that the MDS solenoids have little magnet under them, you must remove them and clean them. I put cam and 16 lifters and start it, run fine until i hit the road! Restart to thick after, what i think, it turn on "eco" and after it come thicking again...
    So even whitout any MDS codes, i remove 4 MDS solenoids and clean 4 magnets under and restart the truck....RUN LIKE A KITTEN!!
    Hope i give little help!😉

  • @Kyle-xt8ip
    @Kyle-xt8ip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I change my oil every 3k miles in my ram and my jeep srt. I don't trust their recommendation at all.

  • @ADKobsessed
    @ADKobsessed ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just had a failed lifter (cylinder #3) and I have 307K on the motor - original owner. It's at the dealer now - lifetime Maxcare Warranty, but they'll buy me out of the contract on this one as the value of the repair will likely exceed the value of the vehicle. Waiting to see.

    • @utubedude2842
      @utubedude2842 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine doesn’t make any tick noise. Idles perfect. I can rev it. But if I hold it above 3k for 10 seconds it’ll start to misfire. What was the early symptoms of yours?

  • @mikegreen3047
    @mikegreen3047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s honestly very simple on the 2009+ hemi. What did they change? They added the VVT and they raised the camshaft higher now by raising the camshaft higher when the car is idling, the cam is not getting lubed up. That’s why you see failure on vehicles with high idling time. Now when the car is moving, the crank is spinning faster applying enough, oil, splash to the camshaft. That’s number one failure. Number two failure is the angle of the lifters. It has nothing to do with oil pressure. There’s no way to fix this. It’s just a stupid flaw on the engineering’s part.

  • @ericsacco7406
    @ericsacco7406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    SOLID JOB!!! I was told to use Lucas Syn in place of one quart by a engine builder here in San Diego. I change my oil every 4K or yearly whichever is less using Mobile1 syn. At this time I only put 1800 miles working from home but still change it. 43K miles on my late model 2014 1500. I have the broken Manifold bolt already. I also try to not let it idle too long.. Hoping I got a later 2014 with the better parts. Tempted to do the cams and lifters soon anyways as preventive maint. That way I do not have to deal with shavings. Thanks again for the info and I will start using the 10w30 over the 10-20... rather have better protection from the oil.

  • @MOAllDa
    @MOAllDa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 17 ram 1500 recently had cam and lifter failure sucks for me out of warranty. Changed my oil regularly before recommend intervals. Royal Purple oil. Crazy I have an 05 Magnum RT With 267,000 miles with no issue. Very worried I might need a new engine. Have not gotten to the VVT Solonoid yet. Informative video

    • @vinny3639
      @vinny3639 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      me too.2017 Ram 1500 hemi engine.105,000 kms (65,000 miles) $7000 repair in Canada.all oil changes on schedule 5w20 full synthetic.

    • @stillwurdy1854
      @stillwurdy1854 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vinny3639got a tick. Ran immaculately in until a month ago, started to get a little sluggish. Was about to do a tranny flush and filter change, which I’ll still have to do and I started getting the ping, wouldn’t call it a tick. I’m a week into the ping starting and I’m benching it until mid November to take it in, full expecting can and lifter. 70k miles in Canada. 5-7k km oil changes… by dealership and on top of all maintenance. After warrentee and service package ended I did my first oil change on it and I was able to remove the filter by hand, loose intake horn. Cabin filter whistle was because they never snapped the cover back in place. Just changed the rear differential fluid and it was half empty. Fuck dealerships. Just paid the truck off too

  • @keithmorrison6176
    @keithmorrison6176 ปีที่แล้ว

    i had a i998 ram 1500 5.9 that ran up until 600,000 km that how good the old stuff was.

  • @user-lz2ec3js2y
    @user-lz2ec3js2y ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, well spoken and honest video. My 2014 has a collapsed lifter in cylinder 6. I unavoidably drove 124 miles on it after noticing the distinct loud ticking. Is it necessary to pay the price to investigate if there is further damage, or are my chances pretty good that its just a lifter. I had no previous engine issues before this and my Ram has 170,000 miles on it.

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very likely its gonna have cam damage unfortunately. If oil pressure is still perfect i wouldnt hesitate to put cam and lifters in it and get another 120+k out of it. Replace the timing guide, chain, and tensioner at that mileage though.

    • @user-lz2ec3js2y
      @user-lz2ec3js2y ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashtonsser Thank you for the response Ashton!

  • @aarsenalfan
    @aarsenalfan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NEED HELP My FRIEND (not me) just did lifters and cam change on his 2018 (392) charger by the dealer, payed over $6,500, has 52K milles,, changes Amsoil every 3-3.5 K miles religiously and the car is making same noise (not as loud) again. What to do ?

  • @GarcBomber
    @GarcBomber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The root cause for the majority is the cast iron camshaft with poor induction hardened shell. Will eventually occur to all of these bumpsticks. Check my latest short... ALL lifters were perfectly functional, 115k miles

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah the camshafts are definitely way too soft. You can see the peeling so to speak on the other lobes even though the lifters havent come apart. Its not helping anything.

    • @GarcBomber
      @GarcBomber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashtonsser yep, once the shell is gone the rough core will begin stopping the roller momentarily and over time seize up.

    • @seandp85
      @seandp85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ashtonsser would you replace cam/ lifter on a Ram 1500 5.7 hemi with 209k or would you you just buy a new long block?

  • @bruceisz2664
    @bruceisz2664 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video.. im at 160k, 2013 ram. Still runnin decent, just a noisy engine.
    Is the failed lifter something that happens over time? Like noise getting louder and louder of 10-40k? Is there warning signs? Or can you expect a misfire code to pop up shortly after and kind of rely on that ?
    Hard to know what is normal. Mine sounds really bad next to buildings at idle. Possible its exhaust manifold, i know its similar. Do you have a video that shows how to diagnose? Could you post a video comparing normal/bad lifter ?

  • @bradbyers7505
    @bradbyers7505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a 2011 Ram 1500 Outdoorsman, 2WD, short bed, single cab, about 14 months ago. It now has about 115K miles on it and seems to be running great. I change the oil and filter every 3K and only use full synthetic oil and Mopar oil filters. My question is this: Do I wait for lifter failure or should I be proactive and get a cam/lifter job before anything fails? I like my truck, and I don’t want unnecessary damage to occur. Thanks in advance for the feedback.

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean thats a question of budget. Being a 2011 its probably never been done at that mileage but is probably at any time gonna fail. The 2011s were alot more susceptable due to the shitty manufacturer of the lifters those years. If you can front it, get it done. Doesnt hurt anything. With the new stuff no doubt youll get another 150-200k out of it with good oil changes every 5k miles.

  • @brianv.1300
    @brianv.1300 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2017 and up they increased the size of needle bearings in the rollers. Has this made any difference?

  • @davidmueller2780
    @davidmueller2780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the info ! I have a 15 and purrs like a kitten !

  • @taylorsampson5434
    @taylorsampson5434 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently bought a 2017 dodge ram 1500 bighorn 4x4 with a V6 VVT engine.
    This was my first pickup purchase(had to get out of a 2017 ford Taurus that had a ton of issues underneath that I couldn’t afford to fix)
    Was the truck with the V6 engine a good choice?
    What should I be aware of with this engine. Good and Bad.

  • @seanroberts9963
    @seanroberts9963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know anyone in colorado that's recommendable for this kinda job? Thanks for sharing your video and knowledge

  • @markleonard5604
    @markleonard5604 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2015, drive it really easy, lately going up hill while pulling a small trailer I heard a rattling noise during acceleration, mechanic told me possibly timing chain guides are worn. Then 2 weeks later I’m getting a shake and vibration when accelerating up a hill or just giving it more throttle and when I let off the throttle, it stops shaking, scanner says p0305 and p0304, misfires I think. So is all this because my cam is going out? 187,000 miles.

  • @darrininverarity4297
    @darrininverarity4297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never buy a new vehicle when a recession hits the year before.

  • @philliplinkous6393
    @philliplinkous6393 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video good information

  • @joevasquez6279
    @joevasquez6279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes do you hot dip the motor to get shavings out?

  • @shunbailey6177
    @shunbailey6177 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey what lifters do you think I should use on my 2010 5/7 hemi 1500 pickup. Can't get it to you because I already tore the engine down. Just want to get it right before putting it back together

  • @chrisbaxley8586
    @chrisbaxley8586 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got 2013 ram Hemi had it done at 115 886 now it’s done it again at 167000 and I always run top quality oil and change it every 6,000 mile

  • @cstgeorgegreen5761
    @cstgeorgegreen5761 ปีที่แล้ว

    People are telling me to avoid the 2011 do you think i should?

  • @JustinTurnerman
    @JustinTurnerman ปีที่แล้ว

    2011 5.7 had my lifter seize and wipe my cam. Got it all replaced. Question is will this happen again or do they have a better supply now. Got it replaced 2019.

  • @princemarcel
    @princemarcel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what are your thoughts on powertrain products engines and their claim at improving the dodger design?

  • @billblass5961
    @billblass5961 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job, thank you.

  • @TerryA_Gudde
    @TerryA_Gudde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Amsoil signature series along with Rev x zddp.... 147k 5.7 2014 runs purrrrrfect so far..

  • @alansanchez-cp5lx
    @alansanchez-cp5lx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where in central Texas is your shop located, recently purchased a 2019 ram 1500 classic 5.7 and would like a good knowledgeable person for future repairs fingers crossed lol i try to do frequent oil changes but good contact info of your shop would be nice to have 👍 thanks in advanced

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are in Killeen Tx

  • @RickySlatton
    @RickySlatton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you see a lot of 2015 ram 1500 with lifter failure?

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not near as many failures in trucks older than 2015 and newer. Weve only had maybe 2 15+ models.

    • @ray4718
      @ray4718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 2015 failed at 190,000

  • @Who990
    @Who990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey what about 2018 5.7 charger, does this year also have the same cam/lifter problem? Thanks

    • @darrininverarity4297
      @darrininverarity4297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 2018 charger and the lifter and cam are wiped out.

    • @Who990
      @Who990 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many miles did your car have when the lifters failed? Thanks ​@@darrininverarity4297

  • @russrtspooling7702
    @russrtspooling7702 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the 2019 models have this issue always as well?

  • @johnstone4918
    @johnstone4918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It just turned 290000 Kilometers my On my 2014 dodgers sport have never touched the motor I do oil changes every 5000 K cylinder
    3 is acting up lol Everybody says it's just a ring I try to explain to them it is the Cam and lifters .I'm looking at buying a brand new motor with a hellcat Cam hydraulic lifters and oil pump.$5800 hundred I'm in Canada 🇨🇦

  • @louisreinoshek7064
    @louisreinoshek7064 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You said $2000.00 less than the dealer, but what is the estimated for the total, I’m looking to buy a2014 with engine rough sounding and a loud ticking on the left bank. 167000 miles

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We do them for 3499 on 2wd trucks and 3899 on 4wd trucks.

  • @MalikBaggz
    @MalikBaggz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What years Ram 1500, should you avoided and what years are good?

    • @pmd7771969
      @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All of them

    • @MalikBaggz
      @MalikBaggz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pmd7771969 ok, because i just sold my 2015 Lonestar 😂

  • @wisco-lad
    @wisco-lad ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the 09 3/4 tons with the 5.7? Was told the 09 Power Wagon / 2500 5.7 was same engine as a 08. Is that true? Asking because my 09 PW has a hard miss under full acceleration only. Thanks

    • @pmd7771969
      @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chrysler is making junk

  • @JeepersCreepersClub
    @JeepersCreepersClub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man. Do you have a opinion on 5w20 oil vs 5w30? Everyone on the forums seem to be split about it and just wanna run the best oil I can in my 2012, only has 51k miles

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly a good 5w30 synthetic would very likely help lengthen the time on them for sure. It cant hurt. 5w20 is purely for fuel economy.

    • @SolidOrange85
      @SolidOrange85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ashtonsser How would 5W-30 effect the VVT system if at all? I ask, because isn't it a oil pressure/time system?

  • @greghillman1105
    @greghillman1105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2012 Ram 1500. Will not accelerate without shaking badly. Dodge mechanic is saying PCM is showing an open and he wants to replace it. A previous small mechanic told me that compression on Cylinder 3 is only 65. Could a bad PCM be causing low compression?

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, bad pcm will not cause that. Its likely cam/lifter failure.

  • @jarredstorms9401
    @jarredstorms9401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Facts not theories, why is this man not engineering for Mopar. Serious thoughs only

  • @tewilk
    @tewilk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's your opinion about running 5w-30 instead of 0w-20?

    • @anthonyostir1748
      @anthonyostir1748 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve seen many people do this with absolutely no problems. They “recommend” 0w20 because it helps that fuel mileage rating, it may by one mpg, but not much at all. But they don’t change anything in the motor to withstand the thing oil. 5w30 is what they really should recommend. If I had one of these trucks I would run 5w30 full synthetic. And change every 3-5k miles.

  • @nickalvarez3667
    @nickalvarez3667 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where in Texas area you located?

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ft Cavazos, killeen area,

  • @johnschuster9590
    @johnschuster9590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I have a 2013 ram 5.7 v8. Hemi About 70, 000 miles starting getting a tick. Now at 93,000 it's still there , at idle it stopes when warm , then you hear it when you press the Gas . Is a broken manifold bolt or worse ?

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like broken exhaust manifold bolt.

  • @danrees1232
    @danrees1232 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got myself the 07 dodge Ram 5.7L with 250k on it and it’s starting to get pretty bad. It’s time for me to do this fix, my mechanic is looking at it today but he doesn’t wanna do it cause it’s a big job! Would ordering a racing cam work? Should I do an MDS delete? Any advice ? On what to expect other than paying out my ass!

    • @pmd7771969
      @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trucks are not made to go 250k

  • @gula77
    @gula77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    doing a cam on 14 ram 1500. lifter bearing is completely missing. How can i flush the metal shavings or clean them?
    Thanks

    • @pmd7771969
      @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Put a magnet on the pickup

  • @pmd7771969
    @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Valve drops are common, wipes out entire engine

  • @airratchetjockey7605
    @airratchetjockey7605 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what do you think the actual failure rate is?

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At some point they would likely all fail. You have to take into account the trucks that dont get driven alot and then ones that are maintained well vs not. Its a part quality issue. So if all the trucks were driven 200+k miles then they would all likely fail at some point. But not everyone puts that kind of mileage on them.

  • @joe7528
    @joe7528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started getting the ticking noise passenger side and i noticed my rpm needle twitching at idle when cold start after it warms up the needle don't twitch anymore and the ticking noise isn't really noticeable so my question is this a lifter or broken manifold bolts or both problems? I don't want to start buying parts and not need them

    • @utubedude2842
      @utubedude2842 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any update? I’m having a similar issue

    • @joe7528
      @joe7528 ปีที่แล้ว

      @utubedude2842 turns out my exhaust Manifold bolts was broken on the passenger side and caused a exhaust leak

    • @pmd7771969
      @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exaust leak

  • @lonniephipps-v9f
    @lonniephipps-v9f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wishes you live in Michigan I have 2012 ram lifer #5

  • @robertstrickland9361
    @robertstrickland9361 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in SC. Do you have a recommendation for anyone here?

    • @pmd7771969
      @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah don't mess with hemis

  • @nicholas440
    @nicholas440 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 360,000kms on my 09 Hemi 300c. Drive it hard and just do every 8000k synthetic oil changes

  • @baer100588
    @baer100588 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you recommend a preventative update? Just go ahead and do the cams before it fails?

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wouldnt hurt if you have the money to spare. It would prevent metal from going into the motor when the failure occurs.

  • @richardthayer5907
    @richardthayer5907 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cool

  • @MultiPartizan1
    @MultiPartizan1 ปีที่แล้ว

    👌

  • @pmd7771969
    @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know many people with junk hemi cars and trucks

  • @wes8398
    @wes8398 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Preface: I still change my oil every ~6,000 miles or 6 months, BUT... I've had over 100 used oil analyses done at Blackstone Labs, and your claim that engine oil "breaks down" and gets diluted by fuel, etc is just plain conjecture without any evidence. The fact of the matter is that many of my UOA's were done on oils with upwards of - and sometimes more than - 10k miles, and Blackstone's labs never once found reason to label the oil as "end of life" or beyond. This includes testing for remaining additive package, lubricating properties, break-down properties, contamination, etc. So while, yes, more frequent oil changes are "cheap insurance", the fact of the matter is that modern engine oils being used by modern engines remain effective well into the 10k mile range (barring any severe use, etc).

  • @pmd7771969
    @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The overall conclusion is that chrysler is outsourcing with poor quality metal

  • @wes8398
    @wes8398 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't want to shit on the creator here, as he seems like a super legit guy... but... his claim that lifter/cam failure isn't happening on '15+ hemis is completely false. It's happening just as much as the other gen iii hemi engines. These rollers and cams simply don't get enough oil to them. I'm inclined to think that although the parts (cams, rollers, lifters) may be sub-par; better oiling might help them to last far, far longer than they do. It's a bit of a chicken & egg argument, and I'm placing by bets on the lack of lubrication exacerbating the possibly sub-par parts problem.

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They do fail but are not near as common. I said in my video the hemis have poor oiling to the lifters but part quality had a lot to do with it. Theres no denying that pushrod engines in general have shit design oiling system.

    • @wes8398
      @wes8398 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ashtonsser the addition of that oil tube straight through the center of the block sure doesn't help the Hemi, even compared to other pushrod v8s. Coupled with the lifter bores being outboard of the cam (not dripping on them), and the extra distance from the crank to the cam, and I think that's our answer as to why the parts fail; whether sub-par or not.

  • @keithmorrison6176
    @keithmorrison6176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    stupid fiat with thier grand design, this is my 7th ram now i wont go to 8 because of the stupid cam damage ford here i come.

  • @chrisbaxley8586
    @chrisbaxley8586 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They are trash engines

    • @keithmorrison6176
      @keithmorrison6176 ปีที่แล้ว

      just after fiat took over.

    • @JM-xp8te
      @JM-xp8te ปีที่แล้ว

      FIAT = “Fix It Again Tony”

  • @JM-xp8te
    @JM-xp8te ปีที่แล้ว

    Rama are just trash. My lifters and cam went out after 154,000

    • @ashtonsser
      @ashtonsser  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean thats about average ezpecially when following the 10k mile oil change intervals that the factory wants. Use 5w30 synthetic and change evety 6k and they will go over 200k all day long.

  • @pmd7771969
    @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hemis are junk. The new ones gen 3 junk

  • @rl5055
    @rl5055 ปีที่แล้ว

    You contradicted yourself. It’s an oil lubrication issue.
    I bet you’re rebuilding when you find metal in the oil.

  • @pmd7771969
    @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The exaust Crack, lifters fail, seats fail. Junk, stuff

  • @pmd7771969
    @pmd7771969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one will admit chrysler makes modern rusted out junk.