@@debreczeniarpad9956 I'm still waiting. But at the same time, it feels kind of meta that I can't ever find it when I search for it. Kind of ties in with Zee's character not remembering the incident.
Valor bard takes 3 levels of vengeance paladin and the great weapon master feat to make him swallow his words. Or better yet, casts true polymorph, turns into a pit fiend and drags him to hell.
Yeah, posting this just after "The Problem With the Awaken Spell" went up, and I swear I've seen 3:00 in this video somewhere else in a video that's not on this playlist. Imma have to go do some deep lore research on the channel now. Hmm, I wonder if there's a wiki...
@creature1064 They've done a collab. But it was a DnD holiday-themed RP session. (No animation). But man, I'd be absolutely hooked if Zee and Puffin did a legit animated serial-character focused series. Between the interesting characters, humor, and willingness to be against-type, I'd be glued to the screen.
Probably because IRL humans are super-squishy and anyone that went murder-hobo RPG style would be dead in about a week or so unless they were amazing at it.
One VERY important caveat: Help will only give advantage on ONE attack roll, for ONE ally. If your Berserker Barb buddy with extra attack and the bonus action attack is hitting a target you used Help on, the first attack he makes will be with advantage. I used this incorrectly against some players by throwing 5 orcs at them and putting one orc on Help duty and having them systematically mop up the PCs one-by-one. Very unfair.
It's not even the first attack, it's the very next attack. Meaning if you want Beefy Mc'20strength to have advantage, he better go right after you, or your allies better be super coordinated.
I am so confused. I have been playing for years, and i have never even heard of using the help action for anything but skill checks. Just the optional flanking rule that usually requires allies to be on opposite sides of the enemy.
Fun flavor rule: if a PC is taking the Help action, I have that player roll on the advantage die, instead of the player he/she is helping. Just a way to make it clear that roll is coming from the Help and making parties feel more cooperative.
Ah, so you're slowing the already-slow game with unnecessary complications? Great. Sarcastic tone aside, one of your priorities as a GM is to keep the game going and not pause or interrupt the flow as much as you can. That's why you don't stop to look at the PHB, you don't stop to look up what a spell exactly says, and you don't stop to play a more appropriate background tune. Honestly. Try playing fast without unnecessary interruptions and pauses, try this out for at least 10-15 sessions, and see how much better your game is :)
For everyone asking for the circle of death video, it’s set to private due to the TH-cam videos aimed at kids debacle, zee has posted blog post about it in his Patreon. (The Blog post is public to read)
@@alucardthespy5539 No problem i went on that wild goose chase myself, i have heard rumors that if you are a Patreon of zee's you can still access the old videos that were taken down. I haven't been able to confirm it though
Unless tieflings are naturally turquoise on the inside (They could have copper in their blood (instead of iron) like horseshoe crabs, I suppose.) and I was unaware of it. I suspect this will not be the last we see of the vile villain.
He's already way past evil, probably, so turning himself into a lich wouldn't be as big of a downside as usual. Still, I agree, Having secret clone vats spread around the world and a few main facilities hosting hundreds or thousands of clones is objectively better than becoming a lich. Liches have a single phylactery to protect to maintain their immortality, but a Clone user simply has to keep a single vat alive out of an unlimited number of vats that could be anywhere. In order to kill a Clone user, you'd have to find EVERY SINGLE vat and smash it all within a month before confronting your target, and he'll have certainly known you're coming using Glyphs of Warding and all forms of divination enchantments set up on each of his hidey-holes to let him know he's being targeted and his vats are being smashed.
Tbh, the best was to immortality is a Demiplane with a Clone, and a note written on a piece of paper, the memory of which the caster has removed from their mind with Modify Memory.
Clone also lets you live on forever (if you have enough of them) in a living body, rather than in an undead one that can't eat, drink, sleep, relieve itself, breathe, and likely can't feel as well (physically and emotionally), as well as offend others with their very existance (ie: Kelemvor, Lathander, Hoar, Torm, Tyr, etc.) so I'd rather take clone any day of the week over lichdom
@@patheronaetherson2860 I...will take this under consideration. It does sound like a better deal than selling your soul to multiple evil entities for the chance to exist in a crumbling husk that will know no further deviances ever again.
More so, as I still don't quite buy into the argument that a help action was worth using. Saying, "But what if they cit?" is dumb. What if it is normal hit? Is it all that much better than two normal hits?
The thing is that you might have a dummy to make a help action. Like a wizard’s familiar, usually useless in combat, can help fellow melee fighters to land killing blows.
Paul Gaither yeah but a full spell caster with no weapon skills and dumped strength who is out of spell slots can feint with a pointy stick and give advantage to the Great Weapon Master Paladin who's using the +10 feat bonus, divine smite, and Channel Divinity.
@@PaulGaither It's all about context. In this case the help action is useful because you're giving the big beefy fightstick two shots in one turn, rather than trying to have ghost pig make a (likely much weaker) attack. Even if beefy boi only get a normal hit in, the squishy necromancer is still closer to death than is beefy boi missed his attack and ghost pig got in a much smaller hit. Advantage is rarely about the crit, but rather, about ensuring that the one attack hits (or that you don't fail that save, or that you make that nerve wracking skill test). Critting is a bonus. And honestly, if I'm playing a support-focused character, I'm likely gonna do everything in my power to make sure my beefy boi can get as close to one-shotting the big bad as possible.
I love the little beat after Trevor finishes introducing himself, and then he says "and this is Ghost Pig" *Ghost Pig hops and plays harmonica* And the Skank Mgank just starts listing all the times he can remember killing shopkeepers. This whole sequence is gold.
Personally speaking, having seen this exact thing in action as a DM, it can be rather broken. Well, unless, you have minions ready to twat the annoying owl with arrows that is. As it is, I don't allow familiars to provide the help action in combat in my games.
@@1ferris778 I'd say it's generally better to use the games rules to combat mechanical abuse rather than change the rule. I find it lazy and not very thought out when ever i come across a dm who bans or changes rules/mechanics.
@@vandenburg123 if the game rules are what is allowing for the mechanical abuse to happen the easiest fix is to change them. i dont ban stuff outright but i try to tweak it at the very least so that everyone at the table feels like they are contributing and the encounters are meaningful and require strategizing and proper combat decisions instead of just cheese. Even when it's not about combat some mechanics are just badly thought out, just to make an example: the DM guide rules for crafting magical items would have your level 20 wizard spend 55 years to craft a single item of high rarity or a blacksmith spend a year to make a single plate armor, it's not lazy to make changes if they are properly implemented and thought out and they improve the experience, in fact it should be encouraged.
@@taurelith4867 yeah I agree. I wasn't saying it's the easy fix, and your right, tweaking a rule can be a simple solution. Also I wasn't saying it's lazy to do that. I was trying to say that in my experience I have seen it done in poorly thoughtout or lazy ways. Your game your rules, and whatever works for you should be the priority. Just know that changes to the rules aren't always good, though they can be when done right. I do advocate for adapting rules to fit your own game, but I have seen it go badly is all.
So, Zee, you purposely played up how despicable Skank was to lead up to an eventual reckoning? Well, it was indeed satisfying. Thank you. (And as for playing D&D, thanks for the tip as well!)
My most OP 5e character was a Mastermind Rogue who just danced around giving the 30ft help action to the Paladin and Barbarian and speccing into use of the Healer Feat and alchemy for potions. The sneak attacks were nice, and it ended up being a better support character than a heal bot by a huge margin.
Just gotta say. Keep doing what you're doing. You make amazing content and I'm glad to see that you're making money from it (from the looks of the paid sponsorship). I know animation is difficult and tedious but I'm glad you've continued to inspire DND players everywhere with your craft.
"I gave you advantage, _why are you casting a spell without an attack roll??"_ "You gave me a thumbs up. A thumbs up always means fireball! Remember the signals?" "EVERY SIGNAL MEANS FIREBALL TO YOU!" "So we're on the same page, what's the problem?"
@@eric_moore-6126 Moreover they could already use their mage hand for it. It does require being 13th level but it's a bonus action and applies to all attacks you make on the same turn.
I love how Skenk calmly and cheerfully talks about how he’s about to get pwned and even compliments Trevor on getting such a good hit on him, *knowing* that he’ll simply return and murder everyone he ever knew, no biggie, happens all the time.
I'm going to need a Kickstarter for a fully animated tale of the story of Trevor and his descent into madness while on an epic journey for revenge started right about now!
@@nikolambert314Why is it sad or why were they taken down? If it's the latter, it's because most people, especially newer viewers can't go back and watch Trevor's history. If it's the former, I have no idea why they were taken down. It could be that some of them violated TH-cam's community guidelines?
It's an optional rule and one MOST DMs recommend not playing with. Flanking is such an easy way to get Advantage that it becomes the dominant strategy in combat and devalues most class features that could provide it.
@@stuartconrod8364 Yep, for example Kobold's redeeming feature is that they have an easy to get advantage on attacks with nearby allies, gaining advantage is one of the main reason to shove... also, flanking makes it so you end up having to do _really_ awkward and nonsensical positioning for optimal combat. I'd definitely recommend running your games without it.
I could be wrong but you can also assist outside combat, so if your buddy wants to do a skill check like Persuade or Investigate you can give them advantage... At least I think so.
@@ashes2steel As long as the person doing the help has proficiency in that skill they can. It does not work for "on the spot" checks though. Like say, random perception to spot ambushers, or even like, A bard suddenly deciding to seduce a barmaid. Basically, Help is asking your teammate for help, and then working together to solve the issue. You can't ask for help when it must be done "RIGHT NOW"
not only was your video succinct and informative, it was also entertaining, meta, and very cinematic, all while providing an excellent example of what a help action would look like. this is dnd rules at it's finest, not ruling, but providing context for, the amazing stories people wish to tell. thank you for your contribution to the world.
Another good use of the Help action is for it to be used in combination with the Find Familiar spell. A Familiar can't attack, but can take other actions in combat as normal, such as Help. This can make it a great spell to select with the Magic Initiate feat, helping a Fighter hit while using Great Weapon Master, or potentially guaranteeing that a Rogue gets to Sneak Attack, all without using an action that could have been used to attack.
thank you so much. as someone who didn't learn dnd through the book, this made me look at the actions in combat, where i found the shove action and immediately made a character from it to show others that those actions are awesome.
Wow these just keep getting better and better! Now they are starting to link and provide backstory for each other. It's like you have had some experience (XP) in this sort of thing before. I love the character portrayal. I feel like I want to watch the linking episode to this one again! Great job!
A little note: Occasionally the game will let you use the Help action as a bonus action instead, such as with the Mastermind Rogue or in UA, the Expert Sidekick.
I normally listen to these in the background. Re-watching this and actually WATCHING it... I never caught the connection between Trevor and the previous video re components. Super cool.
This is actually a really useful thing to know if you’re interested in playing non-optimized or non-combat characters, which is neat because it gives more freedom for what you can play without noticeably dragging your party down.
This is the second squishy spellcaster rekt by an animal and a nat 20 because of actions taken to give advantage to attackers. Screw beware the water. Beware the wildlife.
you know whats even funnier is that the video Trevor is referencing is no longer available, so not even new viewers will know what skankmagank did to Trevor in Red Larch
I was not expecting that. You listened to all the many comments crying for vengeance and created just that character. A story blended into a lesson; subjects are helping allies and laser guided karma. That was both funny and cool. Bravo.
This video really brought the combat utilities of the Help action to my attention and led to me coming up with a character build that I'm looking forward to trying. I'm sure other people have come up with it too, it's actually pretty basic. I love your videos, man!
It's cool that we got a follow up on the Circle of Death since that was so out there and dark. Nice way to lighten that after the fact while still keeping continuity while still keeping it interesting. Also it's quite hilarious how so many people totally called Trevor becoming an antagonist
ok but one way to abuse the fuck out of this as a Fighter-Battlemaster. First action use Help, action surge, then use Commander's Strike. Now not only do they get advantage on their attack, they get to add your superiority dice to their attack as well.
Just A User TH-cam thinks you have taste and so recommended it and then goes though to see who has been smart enough to bell the channel and sends notifications.
I have watched this at least 20 times, and I only *JUST* realized that the little red dots on Trevor's face are his eyes, and not cute cheeks blushes! _I always thought the triangles were his eyes!!!_ (looks better that way though, so I'ma go ahead and not change how I see it)
Trevor finally avenged everything he ever loved within 60ft.
Will Bashew ever reupload Circle of Death?
I hope
This comment is two years old but also like, your avatar is very cute. OK bye.
@@debreczeniarpad9956 I'm still waiting. But at the same time, it feels kind of meta that I can't ever find it when I search for it. Kind of ties in with Zee's character not remembering the incident.
I doubt he’ll reupload it. He made a statement back when COPPA was happening, they’re available on his patreon.
Zee "the pig is a valor bard" Bashew
They call me MISTER [Ghost] Pig! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
A what now?
Valor bard takes 3 levels of vengeance paladin and the great weapon master feat to make him swallow his words. Or better yet, casts true polymorph, turns into a pit fiend and drags him to hell.
800th like
The animated spell book has it's own story and lore. Dope
I hope he does more!
Remember when he turned the viewer into a puppet
That one was weird
His story here was beautiful, tight, and worth every second of being a fan of this man.
Zee, thank you
Terrible Writing Advice did it first. All hail the Emperor! Skillshare will be ours!
Yeah, posting this just after "The Problem With the Awaken Spell" went up, and I swear I've seen 3:00 in this video somewhere else in a video that's not on this playlist. Imma have to go do some deep lore research on the channel now. Hmm, I wonder if there's a wiki...
“You killed a shopkeeper in a small town.” “Do you have any earthly idea how little that narrows it down?”
A quote from every murder hobo
Best Batman Beyond meme
Which of his video's did that circle of death happen? I can't find it.
For you the day when the great Skank McGank blessed your small town with his presence was the most important day of your life. To me? It was Tuesday.
@@darksean99 For a shitty movie, Roul really just absolutely crushed it. I don't remember much, but that scene was meme worthy from thirty years ago.
"If it was easy to kill the necromancer...... You didn't kill him"
Oh no he's dead. Only now he's a necromancer Lich.
Spoilers!
@@williamchristensen7354 Spoiler spoiler.
And here expands The Animated Spellbook’s cinematic universe
Not going to lie that's what I expected when he kept saying names
YAAS
@creature1064 YAAAS
YAAAAAS
@creature1064 They've done a collab. But it was a DnD holiday-themed RP session. (No animation). But man, I'd be absolutely hooked if Zee and Puffin did a legit animated serial-character focused series. Between the interesting characters, humor, and willingness to be against-type, I'd be glued to the screen.
bless you trevor
What species of berd are you?
But he didn't sneeze
Im really suprised to find you here berd, looking forward to your next animation.
Hes dead noe
@Berd A crossover I never wanted, but absolutely needed.
"you took everything from me."
"I dont even know who you are."
*You will.*
lmao you beat me to it
To me, it was Tuesday.
@Dewani90 Hmm...Considering how popular it is in rpgs, I wonder why more people aren't murderhobos in rl...
Probably because IRL humans are super-squishy and anyone that went murder-hobo RPG style would be dead in about a week or so unless they were amazing at it.
Wait.
"Strahd Slayer?"
That's actually pretty impressive and scary.
Eh, he gets better.
not as cool as Sundr Slayer
Dude got a +6 proficiency bonus. I don't doubt his ability to do so.
Thats true
As is Twice King
Pause.
“Yup. That’s me. You’re probably wondering how I got into this situation.”
"we have to go all the way back to the time i was in Red Laugh-"
"Red LARCH!!!!!"
".........nope, still nothing"
Ollo!
Cut to the other video
Emperor’s New Groove.
@@TheShadowwalker007 I can't find it, I've seen it, seen the circle of death story, but I can't find it, what was it called?
So dedicated to explaining the help action he literally got himself killed for it
And then KEPT explaining!
Truly a master of his craft
I mean, he IS a necromancer.
@@pragmat1k Also true! still impressive
He's probably gonna retcon his death later.
@@ketsuekikumori9145 It's been twelve years. Skank McGank probably achieved lichdom by now.
@@ketsuekikumori9145
Two words: _Clone_ spell.
Zee, i gotta be honest with you
This video is gold
Skank m'gank got ganked!
@@hunterrhoades1813
As well as Shanked!
This video is amazing
Your a filthy liar Soap!
This video is platinum!
PLATINUM I SAY!!
WE LOVE YOU ZEE
DM: So what race are you?
Zee: Doesn't matter. Just has to be a ginger with a beard and glasses.
Skank is a tiefling.
Way back from the mage hand video.
soulless undead it is then
He got horns
@@EvilPaladin11 makes sense. Horns, discolored eyes, and green blood. Checks out.
Wait… I’M ginger with a beard and glasses! Could it be? Was the animated spell book inside me all along?
One VERY important caveat: Help will only give advantage on ONE attack roll, for ONE ally. If your Berserker Barb buddy with extra attack and the bonus action attack is hitting a target you used Help on, the first attack he makes will be with advantage.
I used this incorrectly against some players by throwing 5 orcs at them and putting one orc on Help duty and having them systematically mop up the PCs one-by-one. Very unfair.
It's not even the first attack, it's the very next attack. Meaning if you want Beefy Mc'20strength to have advantage, he better go right after you, or your allies better be super coordinated.
actually you can choose which ally you want to help, so it doesn't have to the be very next player.
@@pluralkumquat You would just ready the help for just before the barb attacks.
I am so confused. I have been playing for years, and i have never even heard of using the help action for anything but skill checks. Just the optional flanking rule that usually requires allies to be on opposite sides of the enemy.
Oh my gosh. That rule has been here this whole time and i somehow never remembered it. Since it is basically true strike, but a little better.
12 years ago... Man, Trevor can't be much older than like...24.
and he is still king of 2 nations and a high level adventurer
Yep
This is what happens when you always eat your VENGEANCE!!!tm.
If we're willing to stretch it and say he started out sickly, thin, and short, we could make a case for 27.
Probably achieved all in like 4 weeks in-game time.
"Hmmm maybe talking alone wont do it. If only i had a example to show it...."
-Tim- Trevor :"Hold my beer"
Hold my hand axe!
Fun flavor rule: if a PC is taking the Help action, I have that player roll on the advantage die, instead of the player he/she is helping. Just a way to make it clear that roll is coming from the Help and making parties feel more cooperative.
awesome idea
I like that rule!
Mmm, flavorful.
As a player, I usually give my dice to the person I’m helping for similar effect
Ah, so you're slowing the already-slow game with unnecessary complications? Great.
Sarcastic tone aside, one of your priorities as a GM is to keep the game going and not pause or interrupt the flow as much as you can. That's why you don't stop to look at the PHB, you don't stop to look up what a spell exactly says, and you don't stop to play a more appropriate background tune. Honestly. Try playing fast without unnecessary interruptions and pauses, try this out for at least 10-15 sessions, and see how much better your game is :)
Those two crowns as pauldron accessories is quality fashion
They also probably are a reference to the twice king thing.
Is that a door monster reference I found?
@@Halvos12 He'd do well not to cross paths with the DOUBLE KING.
@@jackofdragons3896 It probably isn't a Door Monster reference, though that would would amazing.
For everyone asking for the circle of death video, it’s set to private due to the TH-cam videos aimed at kids debacle, zee has posted blog post about it in his Patreon. (The Blog post is public to read)
"Circle of death" and "videos aimed at kids" just sounds funny in the same sentence
But can we watch the video there?
@@vinterfjard Ah, bummer, ok, thanks.
Thank you!
I don't see any patron links?
The circle of death video is gone, an incomplete trilogy I must now share
yeah, I was noticing this. I wonder what happened to that video
@@hermeticbear a lot of zee's vids got copy striked by woc i think you can still find them if you become a Patreon
THANK YOU! I kept going through TH-cam looking for the story of Redlarch
@@alucardthespy5539 No problem i went on that wild goose chase myself, i have heard rumors that if you are a Patreon of zee's you can still access the old videos that were taken down. I haven't been able to confirm it though
@@MinecraftTNT64 wait WoC would do what? Even i am shocked...
TAKE THAT Skänk Mäk Gänk, evil crime-er of vileness.
@@noblefrankfurt9027 A Crime-er is person who commits crimes.
A GreatgoatonFire has no regard for english or it grammar of evil.
I feel like this outcome is inevitable when you've killed so many NPC shopkeepers you can't remember them all.
GreatgoatonFire a criminal is someone who commits crimes. A crime-er is guy who crimes.
@@richmcgee434 You are right about that.
Unless tieflings are naturally turquoise on the inside (They could have copper in their blood (instead of iron) like horseshoe crabs, I suppose.) and I was unaware of it. I suspect this will not be the last we see of the vile villain.
Unfortunately for Trevor, Skänk Mäk Gänk is likely to have a clone or two in reserve for situations like this.
He's already way past evil, probably, so turning himself into a lich wouldn't be as big of a downside as usual. Still, I agree, Having secret clone vats spread around the world and a few main facilities hosting hundreds or thousands of clones is objectively better than becoming a lich. Liches have a single phylactery to protect to maintain their immortality, but a Clone user simply has to keep a single vat alive out of an unlimited number of vats that could be anywhere. In order to kill a Clone user, you'd have to find EVERY SINGLE vat and smash it all within a month before confronting your target, and he'll have certainly known you're coming using Glyphs of Warding and all forms of divination enchantments set up on each of his hidey-holes to let him know he's being targeted and his vats are being smashed.
Well obviously, how else do you think he narrated his own death?
Tbh, the best was to immortality is a Demiplane with a Clone, and a note written on a piece of paper, the memory of which the caster has removed from their mind with Modify Memory.
Clone also lets you live on forever (if you have enough of them) in a living body, rather than in an undead one that can't eat, drink, sleep, relieve itself, breathe, and likely can't feel as well (physically and emotionally), as well as offend others with their very existance (ie: Kelemvor, Lathander, Hoar, Torm, Tyr, etc.) so I'd rather take clone any day of the week over lichdom
@@patheronaetherson2860 I...will take this under consideration. It does sound like a better deal than selling your soul to multiple evil entities for the chance to exist in a crumbling husk that will know no further deviances ever again.
Ok this video was as expertly directed and animated as it was informative.
More so, as I still don't quite buy into the argument that a help action was worth using. Saying, "But what if they cit?" is dumb. What if it is normal hit? Is it all that much better than two normal hits?
The thing is that you might have a dummy to make a help action. Like a wizard’s familiar, usually useless in combat, can help fellow melee fighters to land killing blows.
Paul Gaither yeah but a full spell caster with no weapon skills and dumped strength who is out of spell slots can feint with a pointy stick and give advantage to the Great Weapon Master Paladin who's using the +10 feat bonus, divine smite, and Channel Divinity.
@@ivansterliagov6561 To be honest I think that it's relevant to say that I run my campaigns for story rather than heavy gameplay.
@@PaulGaither It's all about context. In this case the help action is useful because you're giving the big beefy fightstick two shots in one turn, rather than trying to have ghost pig make a (likely much weaker) attack. Even if beefy boi only get a normal hit in, the squishy necromancer is still closer to death than is beefy boi missed his attack and ghost pig got in a much smaller hit. Advantage is rarely about the crit, but rather, about ensuring that the one attack hits (or that you don't fail that save, or that you make that nerve wracking skill test). Critting is a bonus. And honestly, if I'm playing a support-focused character, I'm likely gonna do everything in my power to make sure my beefy boi can get as close to one-shotting the big bad as possible.
I love the little beat after Trevor finishes introducing himself, and then he says "and this is Ghost Pig" *Ghost Pig hops and plays harmonica*
And the Skank Mgank just starts listing all the times he can remember killing shopkeepers.
This whole sequence is gold.
Be any class, take magicinitiate.
Learn find familiar, choose owl.
Infinite help actions.
Personally speaking, having seen this exact thing in action as a DM, it can be rather broken. Well, unless, you have minions ready to twat the annoying owl with arrows that is. As it is, I don't allow familiars to provide the help action in combat in my games.
I had an owl familiar helping me on a watch. The vampires attacked that first.
@@1ferris778 I'd say it's generally better to use the games rules to combat mechanical abuse rather than change the rule. I find it lazy and not very thought out when ever i come across a dm who bans or changes rules/mechanics.
@@vandenburg123 if the game rules are what is allowing for the mechanical abuse to happen the easiest fix is to change them. i dont ban stuff outright but i try to tweak it at the very least so that everyone at the table feels like they are contributing and the encounters are meaningful and require strategizing and proper combat decisions instead of just cheese. Even when it's not about combat some mechanics are just badly thought out, just to make an example: the DM guide rules for crafting magical items would have your level 20 wizard spend 55 years to craft a single item of high rarity or a blacksmith spend a year to make a single plate armor, it's not lazy to make changes if they are properly implemented and thought out and they improve the experience, in fact it should be encouraged.
@@taurelith4867 yeah I agree. I wasn't saying it's the easy fix, and your right, tweaking a rule can be a simple solution. Also I wasn't saying it's lazy to do that. I was trying to say that in my experience I have seen it done in poorly thoughtout or lazy ways. Your game your rules, and whatever works for you should be the priority. Just know that changes to the rules aren't always good, though they can be when done right. I do advocate for adapting rules to fit your own game, but I have seen it go badly is all.
"Oh and the pig is a valor bard" - Obviously, duh!
Lol, this was one of your most funny videos, both in dialogue/text and in animation!
I only got who the hell Trevor was by the end of the video.
I understoof it when he said "killed a shopkeeper".
Nice to see him have his revenge.
SkangMcGank. Bodied... For stealing dust... By the mightiest of chops. Rest in beats. All hail the hero, trevor!!!!
Soon as I heard "killed a shopkeep" I knew.
@@-kenik9629
That ironically wasn't the only "I killed a shopkeeper" video if memory serves correctly
I didn't expect Trevor's return so soon!
I love it.
What are you talking about?
...
It's been twelve years..
Twelve years between videos........
Meet you that was a really nice touch for this guy being a storyteller
So, Zee, you purposely played up how despicable Skank was to lead up to an eventual reckoning?
Well, it was indeed satisfying. Thank you. (And as for playing D&D, thanks for the tip as well!)
he started out jsut a seflish, if pragmatic if need be, asshole. then he killed a shopekeeper for no reason. and finally his sins caught up to him.
@@taddad2641 And then he came back and killed Trevor.
My most OP 5e character was a Mastermind Rogue who just danced around giving the 30ft help action to the Paladin and Barbarian and speccing into use of the Healer Feat and alchemy for potions. The sneak attacks were nice, and it ended up being a better support character than a heal bot by a huge margin.
"LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" -Your dude screaming with High Value Target.
"In this thought experiment the ghost pig is a level three valor bard" well there's MY next character sorted.
You're better off going into Rogue for Mastermind. Help action as a bonus action at a range of 30 feet.
Seems like Trevor grew into his comically large pants.
Just gotta say. Keep doing what you're doing. You make amazing content and I'm glad to see that you're making money from it (from the looks of the paid sponsorship). I know animation is difficult and tedious but I'm glad you've continued to inspire DND players everywhere with your craft.
Zee and Puffin are my watch-the-second-they-post videos. Always a fun theme, with humor and interesting ideas.
Trying to formulate my thoughts on how much I love trevor the character but my words cannot express how much I like him
Monk: *gives a thumbs up to sorcerer*
Sorcerer: *thumbs up as well before casting fireball on the enemy and the monk*
"I gave you advantage, _why are you casting a spell without an attack roll??"_
"You gave me a thumbs up. A thumbs up always means fireball! Remember the signals?"
"EVERY SIGNAL MEANS FIREBALL TO YOU!"
"So we're on the same page, what's the problem?"
@@bendystrawz2832 I mean, at least he has a good chance of ducking said fireball and being just fine... Shame he wasted his action though.
I wonder if ghostpig valorbard is gonna become a popular archetype.
im making a character shet for him now...XD
There is a little bit of ghostpig in all of us
It's like True Strike, but good!
True Strike is when you need the help action, but you don’t have any friends to help you and have to do it solo.
Except now Arcane Tricksters, basically the only thing that would actually find True Strike to be good, have access to Steady Aim.
@@eric_moore-6126 Moreover they could already use their mage hand for it. It does require being 13th level but it's a bonus action and applies to all attacks you make on the same turn.
@@Shivermist110 That requiring 13th level is the important part.
I want to know why he's called the Twice King. That's an awesome nickname, especially for the son of a shop keep.
I mean have you seen his pauldrons?
he was an orphan. the shop keeper was just a nice old man that gave him and his trash demon candy.
@@justinianian I am looking for the shopkeeper video, when Trevor was just a kid. Can you share the link?
@@stephschweter seems to be missing QQ
He avenged the cricket, rat and muppet that he loved so dearly
Plus the Shopkeeper who fed him.
It always blows my mind how well you tell a story while also being very educational and genuinely entertaining. Really inspiring stuff.
Dear Bahamut, ‘‘tis the all mighty all powerful terrible GHOST PIG
....trevor too
I need to know more about this Twice-King title.
Wheel of Time reference maybe?
Well he's wearing 2 crowns on his shoulders.
Easy, he got elected king on two separate occasions.
@@Greywander87 you do not *vote* for kings
@@visy23thevlogelf83 Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Nice Trevor the Werewolf callout. I need to catch up on teh C Team
and the fact that Trevor was from redlarch. ALthough i feel like both of those things might be in dnd canon, Jerry likes to throw Canon stuff in there
I thought the Werewolf? When he said the name Trevor. 🤣
1:39 That happy smile when he gives up the name of his home town.
I love how Skenk calmly and cheerfully talks about how he’s about to get pwned and even compliments Trevor on getting such a good hit on him, *knowing* that he’ll simply return and murder everyone he ever knew, no biggie, happens all the time.
"I've been mentioning something in passing that I need to make a short video on..."
_maybe 40+ hours of animation later_
no shit, for real tho
I'm going to need a Kickstarter for a fully animated tale of the story of Trevor and his descent into madness while on an epic journey for revenge started right about now!
full 10 seasons to
Better Call Trevor
Wait that was the urchin boy?!
Yeah careful who you piss off in your adventures
Or for all the necromancers/murder hobos/chaotic stupids/typical DnD newbie party: be careful about who survives your adventures
This is why as a necro I only raise that which attacked me first, I burry the innocent to maintain the balance of death
What was the original video I want to watch it but cant find it
@@Radictv__ same did he take it down?
The movement in the eyes as he searched his memory was really well done. Dunno why that stood out to me so much.
Could we have Trevor explain archetypes a bit? Maybe using Paladin as an example given he's clearly Oath of Vengence?
LOVED ghost pig truly the best MVP ever need more Ghost pig
Whose Ghost pig! I need to know more
Omg i forgot who trever was tell the end of the video XD
We were just discussing how under-utilized the Help action is. Thank you for this video. It’s great!
it's sad that a lot of the old Animated Spellbook episodes like Circle of Death and Fireball were taken down...
Why?
@@nikolambert314Why is it sad or why were they taken down? If it's the latter, it's because most people, especially newer viewers can't go back and watch Trevor's history. If it's the former, I have no idea why they were taken down. It could be that some of them violated TH-cam's community guidelines?
Using an example of the kind of event that would call for use of a Help action makes it that much clearer.
Genius move on your part, Zee.
Help! I need somebody, 🎵
Help! Not just anybody 🎶
Help! You know I need someone
Heeee~eeeeellp 🎼
Ajehy, oh did you get that ad?
@@thedoomofred5174
Maybe they just like the Beatles. I know I do.
Not just anybody... but Ghost Pig 🐷
My friends when they get stuck in a trap
I had no Idea that flanking was an optional rule, Aid makes way more sense now.
It's an optional rule and one MOST DMs recommend not playing with. Flanking is such an easy way to get Advantage that it becomes the dominant strategy in combat and devalues most class features that could provide it.
@@stuartconrod8364 Going to be killing flanking in my campaigns,, BRB..
@@stuartconrod8364 Yep, for example Kobold's redeeming feature is that they have an easy to get advantage on attacks with nearby allies, gaining advantage is one of the main reason to shove... also, flanking makes it so you end up having to do _really_ awkward and nonsensical positioning for optimal combat. I'd definitely recommend running your games without it.
@@stuartconrod8364 For real. Combine with summons and it's all over, your party gets a waterfall of d20s. Ugh
@@JD-qq8fz The last time someone summoned it ground combat to a halt, we won but it saw such a slog.
Awesome episode! A great example of how much the help action can... help in combat.
I could be wrong but you can also assist outside combat, so if your buddy wants to do a skill check like Persuade or Investigate you can give them advantage... At least I think so.
@@ashes2steel As long as the person doing the help has proficiency in that skill they can. It does not work for "on the spot" checks though. Like say, random perception to spot ambushers, or even like, A bard suddenly deciding to seduce a barmaid.
Basically, Help is asking your teammate for help, and then working together to solve the issue. You can't ask for help when it must be done "RIGHT NOW"
not only was your video succinct and informative, it was also entertaining, meta, and very cinematic, all while providing an excellent example of what a help action would look like. this is dnd rules at it's finest, not ruling, but providing context for, the amazing stories people wish to tell. thank you for your contribution to the world.
Man, you got it all, educational dnd video, great animation, funny humor, and side plots and character arcs. keep it up mate, your work is amazing.
Oh man, Trevor has come a LONG way.
2:32 I can't be the only one noticing the twisted 6.
Another good use of the Help action is for it to be used in combination with the Find Familiar spell. A Familiar can't attack, but can take other actions in combat as normal, such as Help.
This can make it a great spell to select with the Magic Initiate feat, helping a Fighter hit while using Great Weapon Master, or potentially guaranteeing that a Rogue gets to Sneak Attack, all without using an action that could have been used to attack.
works best with variant human as many times a +2 to your primary stat is going to be more valuable in the long run than that specific feat.
@@PhabioTheHost that would mean you have to play as a human though and who really wants to take that hit
I love that these straight forward, informative tutorial videos have an established ongoing lore, and callbacks to older episodes. so clever!
But for me, it was Tuesday.
Gone for now perhaps, but you can never truly keep a good necromancer down.
Good god, I can’t believe Trevor became a GWM Hexadin
I mean, you can't throw a stone without hitting about 12 charisma multiclassers, so the odds were good.
Too much charisma casters. Like why Intelligence, which is the most casty class in fiction, is only used by ONE caster?
@@levi2725
Mixing Wizard with the 1/3 casters gets you some nice synergy.
"Trever the werewolf?"
Wow, he must have really beefed up after taking over the doomgate inn
thank you so much. as someone who didn't learn dnd through the book, this made me look at the actions in combat, where i found the shove action and immediately made a character from it to show others that those actions are awesome.
Wow these just keep getting better and better!
Now they are starting to link and provide backstory for each other. It's like you have had some experience (XP) in this sort of thing before. I love the character portrayal. I feel like I want to watch the linking episode to this one again! Great job!
I love how you brought trevor full circle from the last video... hell bent on revenge. epically classic 😂
full circle... circle of death.
love it
thanks for giving help on the help option
We probably had advantage to understand what he said.
Now you have advantage on rule checks (for one round)
@@worthasandwich That's awesome, but a friend of me has my PHB...
A little note:
Occasionally the game will let you use the Help action as a bonus action instead, such as with the Mastermind Rogue or in UA, the Expert Sidekick.
I normally listen to these in the background. Re-watching this and actually WATCHING it... I never caught the connection between Trevor and the previous video re components. Super cool.
This is the best d&d channel and you can't change my mind
I knew Trevor was going to come back for revenge
"for you it was the worst day of your life, for me it was tuesday"- Necrobashew
Is no one going to talk about the backwards “6” when calculating Trevor’s first roll
Right?
no, why would we?
This is actually a really useful thing to know if you’re interested in playing non-optimized or non-combat characters, which is neat because it gives more freedom for what you can play without noticeably dragging your party down.
The fact the components video you made was taken down, makes the fact that you don't remember Trevor even funnier
These videos are so wonderfully chaotic...
This is the second squishy spellcaster rekt by an animal and a nat 20 because of actions taken to give advantage to attackers.
Screw beware the water. Beware the wildlife.
you know whats even funnier is that the video Trevor is referencing is no longer available, so not even new viewers will know what skankmagank did to Trevor in Red Larch
That killshot though. Beautiful. The way he stabbed him, then pulled the blade upward and cut him in half from the inside. Simply divine. Amazing.
I was not expecting that. You listened to all the many comments crying for vengeance and created just that character. A story blended into a lesson; subjects are helping allies and laser guided karma. That was both funny and cool. Bravo.
Double Smite? So he’s a Paladin Warlock with great weapon master. Trevor is a total munchkin!
Jinx Jade just a regular (vengeance obviously) paladin. He cast the bonus action smite paladin spell and used a divine channel smite as well.
In a second I’m here. Gotta love it
Mastermind Rogues get it as a bonus action... at a distance.
It’s a bit silly.
Do you mean silly good, or silly bad?
Yes.
A pebble to the forehead may only distract for a second, but sometimes a second is all you need.
This video really brought the combat utilities of the Help action to my attention and led to me coming up with a character build that I'm looking forward to trying. I'm sure other people have come up with it too, it's actually pretty basic. I love your videos, man!
you told an entertaining story connected to the previous episode AND provided an example of the help action, what an amazing video
So how many clones did you have in basement?
He might not see that nifty robe for a while though
Enough
You obviously keep them stashed away on a virtually infinite number of demiplanes, so who knows how many
Did the Circle of Death vid get taken down? I can't find it.
Calling it, next video is about the clone spell and Skank Mak Gank is coming back
Joshua Earle or Lichdom.
Well, looks like you called it.
It's cool that we got a follow up on the Circle of Death since that was so out there and dark. Nice way to lighten that after the fact while still keeping continuity while still keeping it interesting. Also it's quite hilarious how so many people totally called Trevor becoming an antagonist
your channel is one of those channels where i preemptively like the video before i watch it because i know it will be good
ok but one way to abuse the fuck out of this as a Fighter-Battlemaster. First action use Help, action surge, then use Commander's Strike. Now not only do they get advantage on their attack, they get to add your superiority dice to their attack as well.
I got the recommendation forthis video before I got the notification. Why?
Just A User TH-cam thinks you have taste and so recommended it and then goes though to see who has been smart enough to bell the channel and sends notifications.
LOL, I just realized something. The reason Skank McGenk can't remember the Circle of Death in Red Larch is because that video got deleted. 🤣
I have watched this at least 20 times, and I only *JUST* realized that the little red dots on Trevor's face are his eyes, and not cute cheeks blushes! _I always thought the triangles were his eyes!!!_ (looks better that way though, so I'ma go ahead and not change how I see it)
Helping others...
Truly this arcane act is shrouded in mystery for I have never encountered it in all my travels.