PVP D&D run with some flair
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Humblewood KS: t.co/9Nj9sGTwYQ
I’ll be honest: when I found out it was a big PVP event to start I was slightly annoyed. D&D pvp is fine in the course of a story but I was imagining some basic arena fights.
Music:
The Bywater by Mini Vandals
Tiptoes by Myuu
Jousting is up!
docs.google.com/document/d/1W3l87xR1Y8rw-1FVTdxqdSFRvZxwJu_r-jQHnsvrgio/edit?usp=sharing
yaay
Fantastic!
Super, thanks!
Its very strange that a someone doing Kickstarter project would do a paid sponsorship. One would assume that Kickstarter is a place where creators with a novel idea and a passion, but not the means, could go to get funding to create their project, directly from the audience that wants to see that idea to fruition. But with Humblewood, this doesn't seen to be the case.
Deck of Many's advertising a project like this would leave me to assume that they had enough money in the first place, or at least enough spare capital laying around that they could afford to advertise a project that's already hit its goal. The alternative is that they're using kickstarter funds to do advertising, which I can't imagine would make the backers happy, but IM SURE that's DEFINITELY not the case, right?
So this begs the question: Why advertise for a project that's already hit its goal? Certainly the purpose of putting an RPG on Kickstarter is to find enough of an audience to justify doing a small-to-mid scale print. But by looking at Humbewood's Kickstarter, they've already got their audience, and then some. So why keep advertising?
It all puts a very bad taste in my mouth and I can't figure out why.
Thank you
No, no, no you did not make a mistake what you made was A clerical error.
Ha.
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*clap. clap. clap*
Yukari Yakumo I hope you have a good dice because you’ll be running from a lot of monsters for that pun(ishment)
There's a story on /r/HFY called "A clerical error" and it currently top 2 there
Highly recommend to read it
Aah yes, you made an AHole character for one reason and still ended up being one for another. Great commitment!
Exactly what I was thinking, though it doesn't quite line up with his Lawful alignment.
@@colinsmith1495 I feel like Lawful Evil is all about bribes and backroom dealings. Otherwise you're stuck being a bureaucrat, doing evil things that are legal by technicality.
Lawful DOES NOT mean following the law.
@@eric_moore-6126 it... it does...
Only that you exploit said law for life haxs
@@MalekitGJ Alignments are weird in D&D. Lawful is more that you live by a code above all else - that can be the law, but it can also be a paladin code, personal code - eg. avoiding violence if at all possible. Chaotic can be no code - maybe ideals if good or neutral, but nothing concrete.
Hm. I can't help but put myself in the shoes of the wizard and bard... what's more valuable, 100gp, or a newly minted noble with access to land, artifacts, and influential people, who OWES you 100gp? I'm tempted to say the latter... Wonderfully cool ideas for player vs. player stuff, too!
Newly minted noble with land is good for 100gp a month with ease.
Charge interest on the unpaid debt...
I would agree. A noble who owes you can be milked for all sorts of privileges that would normally be more costly elsewhere. What is more you can have a monopoly on his needs. Maybe he needs a keep on his land cleared of..."vermin". Yout price? A more than fair amount of the treasure found during. Perhaps you need an item that would normally be off limits to a commoner like you...even if you are quite capable. Noble to the rescue. Got a rival you need to put some indirect pressure on? Yeah...
Clearly not political players of culture like ourselves
Hehehe, i love it. Dimir playstyle= most fun playstyle.
Debts > Coin
It was at this point I made a mistake - D&D in a nutshell
We've had some arguments in my group with a player "makes a mistake." My DM tries to remind us that mistakes make for better story telling.
"it was at this moment he knew... he f*cked up."
@Zee Bashew we all would love to see what your friend made and i would love to have a copy for my AL in which i am running H.o.t.D.Q right now.
I was like 1000
It has been argued (at my table anyways) at GREAT LENGTHS that, "Actually, D&D is the Bob Ross school of storytelling... AND there are only Happy Miscalculations." ;o)
So, you're a noble, but you have no money?
That's maybe the most realistic thing I've ever seen in dnd.
In medieval times, no one was all that well off. The nobles had a better, yes, but not by too terribly much. Castles, for instance, would be pretty small affairs for any noble except an emperor or something. The expansive gothic castles we often think of were later creations; if you were, say, a Knight, you'd be lucky to have a stone "castle" that had as much square footage as a modern suburban home.
Moreover, being "of nobility" is not the same as having all the benefits of a landowner. Since, you know, there's only so much land for a lord to bequeath to all his children. To keep holdings consolidated, most of that wealth got inherited by the eldest son. The secondary sons got basically nothing. They had to make their own way in life.
For instance, it's thought that the First Crusade was as successful for the Crusaders as it was because the leaders of the armies were all Princes, rather than the Kings that fought in later Crusades. The Princes had a vested interest in capturing as much Holy Land as they could, so they could forge Crusader States out of them that they individually would control. While piety certainly played a role, the First Crusade was very much about wealth and land.
Well, he's got land, which is worth a lot on its own.
... As long as it comes with the customary people living there providing an income for the land owner. Which probably was the rub in this case.
This reminds me way too much of my WHFRP campaign... although we did eventually work our way into having lots of cash, mostly through fixing bets on jousting tournaments that my own sergeant-at-arms (another player) won, and by becoming a merchant that trades in the silver mines in my family's domain (only slightly illicitly). The problem with WHFRP is that it is ruthless at reminding you that you need to _spend_ money to live the noble's lifestyle. And if you aren't living the noble's lifestyle then you're effectively, not a noble.
Update: Sang Yup is working on compiling the rules for the trial neatly so people can read it. Right now it's just in shorthand notes, so keep an eye out for that in the next few days :)
This video's kind of inspired me to give a go at D&D DMing, so when the rules are written up, would you kindly link it or something 'cause I would love to do a "campaign" like this.
Hi I never realized that you were from South Africa. What part of the free state are you in?
Any word as of yet, Zee?
Would love to get my hands on this stuff, is it up anywhere? I see the jousting comment.
I noticed that the Jousting rules had a link to the Mage Duels, but the Archery one said it's still incoming. Is that being worked on?
Any chance we could get a hold of the rules used?
I'll ask sang yup!
ow nice cant w8
@@zeebashew
Please do! I'm an admin of a AL group and I run a PvP Arena match periodically just to spice things up. Been playing around with survival events and the like but could use the ideas presented here.
If posible please add the rules, or link to the rules on the video description.
Thank you : )
I'd go as far as to pay for it on the DM guild if it would help the creator.
*Bribes people for help by promising a share of the prize money*
*Wins, but doesn’t get a cash prize*
Mistakes were made...
Yeah, but whose mistake was it? If you specifically promised "part of the prize money" and the people accepted without checking if there was money in the prizes, isn't it their mistake? You've paid them part of the prize money, there is no money, thus their payment is zero.
That said, antagonizing people who have helped you (even if it was in exchange for salary) is a bad idea, so even if you could play it like that you probably shouldn't. What you should do is: you find a way to pay them anyway and mention the reason for the delay. "Thanks for your patience, I hadn't realized there wasn't any prize money, here are your promised wages with a little bit extra." Make them a little bit loyal to you, because even if they're in it for the money now they know that your word is good and that you can be trusted to pay them even if your plans don't go as planned.
The funny thing is, most tourneys will list their prizes ahead of time. This is definitely poor planning.
The real question is: What can they do? Are they going to go to the judges and say, "That guy bribed me to throw the match and didn't pay me!!" 😅
@@KickyFut Yeah, they can do that. Or kill him. :D
Technically, if he didn't get any prize money, he doesn't owe anything, as zero is not a divisible number.
Sure, those bribed would feel duped, but it's not his fault they didn't read the fine print. All he'd have to do is go to court over it and it'd all be over.
Man I would kill for these events to be put in a module. GUESS ILL HAVE TO MAKE EM MYSELF!
Roleplaying in a nutshell.
Justin lambert put a link here, I’ll be waiting.
Gimme a week folks, I’ll get one thrown together shortly.
ditto
@@justinlambert6826 gimme a week he says.....
*Disclaimer: I have friends*
-"All it took was one look at the players I had bribed to know. If i didn't sell one of my incredible prizes. I was FU**ED"
Sounds like the best premise to start a relationship between characters and stablish a motive to go look out for an adventure that I've ever heard
Remember the number 1 rule of D&D... No, not “Never split the party”, the other one:
Nothing is ever as it seems.
I love how they both share the first spot XD Dnd in a nutshell : compromise!
I thought number one was "geek the mage"
@@theapexsurvivor9538 That's Shadowrun
@@Blace1018 still applies.
Unless your enemy is an illusionist of course, then you should trust what your eyes and ears tell you completely.
Zee! You don't have to make a video trying to convince us that you have friends! We TOTALLY believe you!!
ZeeBashew is easily a pioneer of dnd based youtube channels that isnt an actual campaign or highlights of a popular dnd group
Love ya zee
Who else would you put there? I was thinking XP to Level 3 and Mathew Colville
Yeah plus Davvy Chappy, Puffin Forest and Runesmith.
I mean.. to be fair, that is how he got his start (animating highlights of a popular dnd group), but it's cool to see the direction he took his videos instead
@@nedak1751 Web DM as well, perhaps?
I once played a game where the sorcerer in our party was challenged to a jousting match which he had no chance of winning. As a long time player trying bard for the first time I was a little high on the class and told him not to worry because I had a plan. about and hour later he was waiting in the change room before the match and looking at the full plated knight with a powerful warhorse when from the door to the room in marches a shabby looking horse costume. it was me. I cast disguise self to look more real and we took to the field. right before the match began I rolled a nat 20 to intimidate the horse and inspired the player. right as the knight took off the intimidation check sent him flying into the player's spear with his his with a 25 thanks to my inspiration. the knight was killed and we became wanted criminals for murder but for about five minutes we felt incredible.
death is normal in jousts but a man pretending to be a horse most certainly isn't that's for sure.
One of my players favorite games was a grand tournament that basically turned into Ultimate Ninja Warrior and rewarded minor magical items. I also let the players tell me what competitions they wanted to compete in, hence this tournament had a pie eating contest and a dance off.
Oh my god a dance off. That had to be a hoot.
Imagine having the dance off right after the pie eating contest.
That would get messy, if you catch my drift...
@@OrangeyChocolate Constitution check every dance round.
"You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting." - Rufus Sewell's character from A Knight's Tale
Never underestimate the creativity of people finding ways to beat each other up.
Basically "cheating" lol, I luv it.
That whole mini game scenario sounds awesome! The system of writing down spells to cast in secret reminds me a bit of the combat systems in The Burning Wheel.
It reminds me of a cardcame called Yomi. Basically it is rock/paper/scissors with combos and martial artists.
Edit: You mentioned burning wheel. I got mouseguard. Is the system in there like the one you meant?
@@Terrkas0 mouse guard's encounter system is derived from Burning Wheel but actually pretty different
I can already hear it: "Where's my money?" with Stewie Griffon's voice.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS!
I have used this system, and it is awesome! TOTALLY makes player decisions more meaningful. Thanks for covering this!
If that owl in armor didn't get you interested in Humblewood, IDK what will.
tomisabum PALIDOWL
A “Powlidan?”
“Owlidan?”
@@Abdega Definitely a Powlidan
Logar3
Powlidan it is then!
But like... Can we get a layout for this rules and set up.... Even more basic guidelines... I would love to DM this
These look like great rules for low level casters. I've always held that for high level casters a Spell casting contest wouldn't be combat related, it would be a contest of who can accomplish the most innovative new result with the spells readily available, judged by a jury of other casters. Things like using Web to catch falling players, or animate objects to open a mechanical lock, etc.
I love how you played the 80s Sports Movie Villain role to the hilt. Cheating like mad to make up for your shortcomings, only to get your just desserts even when you won.
3:32 That little Owl Knight is the cutest thing ever.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THE SAME ITS FUCKING ADORABLE!
Look at it's tiny beak! And it's little shield! It's such a proud little thing!
He looks like he's just so happy to be there *^*
@Lance Clemings Yeah, they're super-silent murderbirds with giant frowns in real life.
So assassin's would make more sense, but then you don't have the tiny helmet! We need the tiny helmet!
They are until you realize in the book they're supposed to be around six feet tall.
Sounds like it's time to charge some taxes on your new lands (should be replete with peasants already).
I've always wanted to do a skill tourney like this, but themed as the final exam for a multi-disciplinary college.
This is good. You can even go on to have a subplot where someone's trying to use the tourney as either a distraction or part of their plot to get [whatever subversive].
Time for that all wizard(maybe some more scholarly/arcane bards, melee classes and such) party
@@Arenuphis originally I was thinking a 'University/Academy town', where the main industry is that training, and service.
A few major guilds have moved their headquarters nearby so as to poach the best scholars, formal fighters, diplomats, etc from the exam ceremony.
This sounds awesome. We played a game almost like this, but we had two characters each. One was down in the arena fighting and the other was a noble up in a tower. There was a pretty straight fight down below while the nobles could bribe, send secret messages and manipulate things related to the arena from above. I really think there lots of opportunities for this setting.
3:10 was that bard threatening you with 'Heat Metal'?
As someone from another episode would say “Have you ever heard of a glyph of warding”
Love your stuff zee
I love running a tournament arc for players. Generally, my campaigns are more RP focused, so the Battle Royale gives some of the more strategic, less social players a chance to shine. And when they win, they get to roleplay as "the champion" which is an easy and fun role to play, easing them into more social aspects of the game
I loved the way PVP was run in this video. Fantastic ideas!
but... you set your character up for evil and fighting other players...
on the other hand, the lawful part of lawful evil may include honoring your promises and it's generally a good idea to keep those when other players are involved anyway...
The tournament really sounds like the GM just making it about luck, since every actual class feature would never come into play
yyou've won lands though, so you can just give those players viceroyalties and the right to collect taxes.
I have done PvP in dnd. I played a tempest cleric... Call lightning is an amazing spell.
finals in a pvp grand tournament. warrior vs paladin.
Paladin uses "Command" - "Forfeit"
Rolls nat 20. Warrior rolls nat 1
Unless you have specific rules then pvp is so terribly balanced and I am sure it gets even worse.
Wish Ud share more stories like this in full version! The idea is amazing, and your experience/grp sound fun as hell to witness
Easy, just tell them you Will give them extra gold if they wait, go to yours land and start a farming industry or something and boom gold.
You're kidding right? I love you're channel and all but this episode stopped before it even started. This is just an add with extra steps
3:20 For the record, no, it is not a good idea to give a crow the black materia.
"It was at this point, I made a mistake..." -Zee Bashew
"Nope... There are no mistakes in D&D, only Happy Miscalculations!" -Me...
...and maybe Bob Ross... if he ever played D&D. ;o)
It was at that moment he realised...
he f*cked up.
Oh my this is such a good way to begin a game, as well as the under-the-table bribes happening completely spices it up and sets up a great start.
"The Producers" fantasy style?
Nice story.
You have friends?!? And I thought you were a demi-god....
You should’ve used a divine soul Sorcerer. That way you could bless people without them knowing with Subtle Spell.
D&D works better for PvP now than when I was a kid before cell phones with texting, No need for boring area combat as the only fight; you can have 2 GMs and 2 teams of players after the same goal, in the same kingdom, and as long as the GMs keep each other informed, it works well
0:40 “lawful evil”
*cheats multiple times*
Hmm maybe ask them how theyd feel about having the land?
Coin is coin and coin is temporary but land can last longer
After rewatching this, I realized that... Pear of power... That is what you sell. Use left over money and the fame you have to build a base on the land you got and build up that base to a point where you can easily craft legendary gear and, boom, there ya' go! lol
Personally I would have sold off some of the land and some of my pregame armor bits. I don't need the gauntlets not the boots, you can have my loincloth
You had LAND and a title of NOBILITY! that means you can tax the people living on the land. You don't tax for money, but for agricultural, horticultural, and/or mineral resources. Then bring some of the resources to market and get GOLD! rinse and repeat. No selling of the rewards necessary. You could tell them you will give them 50gp more if they are willing to wait just a bit longer.
Your only mistake was that you didn't Lawful Evil hard enough. You needed to draft contracts specifically promising the 100gp rewards out of the prize money and exclusively claimable through gold pieces acquired by way of tournament winnings. In the event that you are given enough currency (in gold piece denomination, specifically) to pay, you will. If you are given any amount less than the cumulative 200gp to pay the contracted parties, you would be obligated to pay however much is possible exclusively from your winnings in gold pieces, split equally between the parties, rounded down. In the event that you are rewarded with no gold pieces (no money rewards whatsoever or money rewards that do not specifically include gold pieces), you are absolved of responsibility to pay as per the contract's wording specifying gold pieces to be the sole form of reward claimable by the recipients. With further fine print, have the contracted parties waive their rights to take legal action should they believe the contract has caused them any personal harm, destruction or loss of property or well-being, etc.
TL;DR: Learn to devil.
WoD is much better for PVP as it leans more heavily into intrigue (and is just overall just a more "ROLE" and less "playing game" system). I would only run it online tho and you'd probably need an assistant DM (your girlfriend/boyfriend) as you'd essentially need to run a bunch of parallel 1 team sessions where each person is actively scheming against each other.
How I run D&D PvP.
All players are given a dream pre-session. Each dream is different and unique.
One dream tells the player that in order to survive the dungeon that they undertake the next day, two players of their party MUST be dead before they leave the dungeon.
In reality all players have this same dream, but no one knows this. With this in mind the players will treat each other as innocents, and also try to act innocent themselves if another murder-dream-haver is found out.
Players such as bards and wizards can use cunning magic to cause accidents to happen.
Fighters barbs and pallys can just murder people. It becomes a game of brute force and deception.
Obviously this is for one shots only.
honestly this is how you do it. It's not just straight pvp at that point depending on level, class, and race you'll have straight advantage. I mean for one Paladin would do really well considering things like compelled duel making them have to approach you, all of your smites, your 16-18 AC, etc. Wizards or sorcers who roll high enough on the sleep spell and had powerful AOE spells after make for brutal foes ya can't cunning dodge something if you're magically compelled to asleep.
Can't sneak that Gimli helmet design past me, no sir
We tried out a pvp tournament with duels and group match ups once. All characters were level 20, only material from the official books was accepted. All the battles were fought on a 90ft square arena.
All I can say is, that it was basically a rock-paper-scissors thing with a coin flip. You would think a lvl 20 moon circle druid would win every match because unlimited wildforms, yes? Nah. All it takes is a monk (any subclass, really) to win the initiative roll and stunlock the druid to death. Then again, a totem barbarian doesn't even need to win the initiative, it just has to wait that either the monk burns out all its ki points trying to stun it and then beat them to a pulp. Then again, without any ability to stop the moon circle druid from using wildform, eventually it would out-tank the barbarian.
Then there's the zealot barbarian. The only hope to kill them is to get them to die from exhaustion in a way or another, and even then they can have +13 to constitution saves.
3v3 matches were a lot more interesting. Casters dominated. pretty much. Our team of 2 warlocks and 1 chronurgy wizard blasted away the two other teams, but when a caster team was against another team of casters, things went wild. The counterspell game was like a game of chess, but in teams of three. The endgame was hilarious: when some characters were Feebleminded, some dead and the rest had burned away all their spell slots, the cantrips became the game winners. One character was beaten to death with a crystal ball, though.
ZEE: "i'll give you guys prize money"
a while later.....
Announcer: "congrats, here is your land and magic item"
*record scratch* Narrator: and that's when he knew, he fucked up
This may be an old video, but technically speaking, by the players Gold from the prize money you won, you made no mistake. Because you didn't get prize money, you owed them nothing. After all, they got a share of the prize money you got. In fact, both of them got all of it. By not specifying from just "your winnings" you managed to make the most lawful evil choice available, bending the rules of your own deal to suit your needs, even if based on a false assumption. Bravo at managing to stay in character without even realizing it!
Have a friend who does PvP stuff for meetups, and was trying to think what to do next time after doing a capture the flag thing. I did recommend to do something akin to mini-games that would do things other than simply player characters running around in a map trying to kill each other. He seemed to think the idea would be too complex.
I also just recently put up some homebrew stuff Reddit to make characters alcoholic drinking as more of an event, rather than simply saying to do a boring con check. Gave it balance for dwarves, stout halfling and sizes. Making drinking that could be something competitive, a game where drunk characters make mistakes that players can reveal things like a secret or who they might flirt with. And story hook of punishment or reward if they blackout and go missing.
Oh, how rules-lawyer-y of you to do that. Technically, you won nothing, and you said that you'd give them 100 g *of your winnings*. Since there was no prize money, they got nothing. Had there been a prize, you'd have needed to earn at least howevermuch you bribed them with as a "for later" in order to see even a single coin from the winnings.
Fuck the (currently) 2 people who disliked the video! I love the content Zee!! Props to Puffin Forrest and DingoDoodles for recommending you during you're collaboration.
See, if those other two players were thinking in-character, and those characters were at all smart, they'd accept some sort of percentage on your lands' earnings in place of 100 gp up front. Long term gains would be much, much higher, and a steady income is much better than a single windfall from a real-life perspective (which the characters would have).
You know I’m in a pvp game as well and it’s supposed to be a free for all but I’m teaming with some one in our group(it’s a game we’re different dnd games collide and the people from the other game are npc) it’s really interesting. There are these servents you can have which are Uber powerful and you can’t kill the actual person unless you kill there servent first. It’s all weaved into our campaign so the reward coralats whith the character you are. You get 1 rule free wish, the word and is included. So far I got a assasen servent which is perfect for me Sence I’m a rouge. I partnered up whith a guy with 2 servents a king and a queen so he’s op. I have to fight him at the end so I’m going to try to end it as fast as possible. Wish me luck.
I played in a one off pvp game where we all made level 10 characters. We were given a large amount of gold for equipment and I quickly realized that everyone was making gladiators. So I made a rogue and spent almost all my money on a ring of improved invisibility. I proceeded to loot and backstab my way to victory.
Are you saying that getting lands and a lordship didn't provide you with any long-term money gain? How the other two characters didn't figure "Well, If we 'visit' his domain in a month he will be able to pay us twice the amount!"
Umm, your story doesn’t have an ending. Frustrating. I like your stuff and I’ll check out your podcast, but what the hell? Did you resolve your debt or what?
My group does some straight up PVP with the only real change being death has no consequence and everything is recharged between fights. It's a lot of fun to be able to play to the death like that and also blow through all your spells with reckless abandon. It also helps learn combat very quickly as well as the combat strengths and weaknesses of your fellow players. I recommend anyone just draw up a simple arena and try fighting it out between characters for fun.
I was playing a halfling rouge. The Ranger didn’t like me too much and stole my thieves tools. I went after him and he stabbed me. After that I was hiding behind the bard as we traveled to the city so the Ranger wouldn’t know I was there. After we all get there. I stay in the same room as the bard during the long rest. At night I snuck over to the rangers room and stole a potion. The next morning the Ranger comes banging on the door. He had heard the chit chat. That begins a 1v1 cage match enforced by the mages wall of force. Once the wall was down (about when the guards showed up) the bard used dimensional door and basically threw me out of it. And that was the end of that character, I basically considered them dead for all intents and purposes.
I'm kinda sick of D&D PVP cause thats all what my old group did and it wasn't even supposed to be like that. Worse is the DM encouraged it while playing favorites.
This also seems like a great way to "trick," for lack of a better word, players into organic character building. I know a lot of people, myself included, who tend to try to keep our characters on a tight development path but have a lot more fun when something random and crazy happens
Tbh sell the lands. You can always snag lands later. Literal priceless artifacts are... Well... HARD AS FUCK TO GET.
Okay, here's you pay the people you bribed without selling either prize. Given the feudal setting, you find out if the land you were granted has serfs or tenants working the land already or if you can lease the fields to free peasants. Then you find a merchant bank to loan you the money in exchange for the income you generate from your feudal holding until the debt is paid off with interest. It's a perfect lawful evil move.
One time I made a dnd game kinda like Pokemon where my players could get monsters and use them, and certain fights would use certain monsters or monster types, like flying fights, underwater fights, and as my players progressed they would be able to get instead of levels, challenge rating to be able to obtain more powerful monsters to use. It was great until my players broke the system with a bit old idea that’s way to complex to explain here.
So what did you sell? This does sound fun. I'm starting lost mine of phandelver. But with an arena fight as the hook to get the player into the real game. More so I can tweak the story once I get to see the players character sheets then anything else. The size of the group could very from 4 to 8. I'm a bit nervous about DMing this. It will be the first kind of structured game we have played. Oh and the first game I don't have to jump from my story to loot gen app to rule book to app on monsters and back to the story.
i dont know if its possible but if zee bashew could possibly find his dm and collaborate to put the homebrew rulesets up for other folks to to look at, i know I would strongly appreciate it. PvP rules are always dicey, but I'd love to have them become viable.
I am actually playing a brawler monk in my current DnD campaign and both me and my DM are looking for ways to spice up the combat? WOuld it be possible for you to share some of the rulesets and competitions you had in your game? It would really be a huge help for me and probably lots of other people ^^
Well....you're nobility, with land. It would be pretty easy to raise some money to pay those guys off. Go collect some taxes from the people living on your new land, or go to the town on your land and raise tariffs. Hire someone to start cutting down trees on your new land and sell the timber, or do this for grain or grapes for wine...there are so many ways to raise money for nobility I don't think you'd have to sell anything and the two PCs should also understand this.
Yeah, Clerical errors were made, but it would be simple enough to sort this out if you wanted to. You'd just need to sell your armor, maybe even announce at the stand that you would be willing to put it up for auction as a collector's item or something (which a good DM could use to do some Voodoo on you for good measure).
I'm planning something similar for the next chapter of my game. Except they'll be representing a school in a wizard school competition with plenty of sneaky stuff.
Did this for the first session of a campaign I am still running. I added a horserace mechanic ten minutes before the game started, ended up being the most fun part of the game. Two of my players bought drugs and gave it too their horses, and managed to get first and third place, screwed them over for the joust though lol bc there horses were burnt out and going through withdrawals.
Strange the DM didn't make it know at the outset what the tournament prizes were. That's information that most contestants of this sort of event would know, either because it's declared or because it's a default that could logically be assumed in the world the characters live in.
Did you promise them a set amount from your winnings? Because that was a mistake.
Promising them a percentage of the gold you win wouldn't have been.
Completely unrelated. Ravnica's money system is made of zibs and zinos. Come-on wizards... You can do better than that!
Yeah but what is the income of the noble title? I'm sure you could just delay payment but offer a bigger pay day. That doesn't seem like so much of a problem as it is a great hook to build a party around.
you could have gone to a bank or something to make an loan to pay the 2 players. As you are now a landowner whoever let you borrow money would know you are a safe investment. Or you could have sold your full plate, and buy an half-plate, using the money of the difference to pay your players.
Didn't you make a character that is evil and is made specifically for (pvp) battle? You could have tried to kill the other 2 after you won the events.
Man, this is a great thing that I now want to do with my players
If you sell either of your items you may not be able to buy them back, and if you can you will likely need to pay a massive markup. Go to a banker, take out a loan to repay your debts. Give the pearl as collateral. Collect rent from the lands. Pay back your debts and reclaim your pearl.
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Dude, those two you bribed were idiots. 100g is nothing compared to what you can milk from a noble who owes you (regardless how new the noble might be)
I’d say sell the pearl of power forever much you can get.
It has a nice effect where it returns one spell slot of 1st to 3rd level. But there’s a weird weird comment in it where if you try to use it to fill a 4th or higher level it becomes a 3rd level, and you can only use it once per day.
So in the end it’s not really worth it.
I kinda love it that you bribed those two guys with a fraction of your prize money but not only you, but both of the NPCs, just forgot there was no prize money.
3:14 Actually if this works at all like a British Nobility in a Fuedal system you could easily have a good serfdom going to pay them later allowing you to run off with the priceless artifact and the land
I wanted to share my story, but the whole thing is too long. We finally got to use these rules last week as the opener to the new campaign set in ancient greece at the olympic games, the mage duel had tons of problems we could not sort out so we did not end up running it after at least a half hour of fixes and complaints. Thanks for sharing something interesting with us all the same.
Aren't titles/lands a means of generating passive income? It seems like having a noble indebted to me would be better than a hundred gold up-front.