CBR 650 lams how to de restrict
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always good to watch people who are in the know.
Very good. I was looking at this bike for my restricted period but concerned I wouldn't be able to eventually de-restrict the engine when I would get off the LAMS restriction.
Thank you, that was quite informative and easy to do
Great video, guys if you need a quickshifter, tune or any other parts see Dynobike!
Best video in TH-cam
Awesome video mate very detailed!!
Thanks for the feedback
for anyone looking for the air funnels
Honda 17225-MJE-DB0 FUNNEL, AIR
Manufacturer: Honda
OEM Part Number: 17225-MJE-DB0
Part: FUNNEL, AIR
What do u look that up on
@@williamanderson8588 - I found the parts on the Revzilla website, they have a list of OEM parts for the CB650R
Hey will this part fit a 2014cbr650f ?
Hello
first great video !! keep it up!
I pre-ordered the bike. and I will definitely do it a little faster
my question, how much was the increase in performance?
Do you just need the ECU to electronically derestrict it? Or is there something beside the air funnels more?
Great video. Thanks for the instructions on how to get more power.
Do you have a link to the intake manifold?
dynobike.com.au/product/honda-cbr650r-mail-in-flash-tune-2019-on/
Hi great video. I live closer to you guys . Just wondering how much will this process cost me . Thanks
Could I have some help trying to find the 02 sensor because I’m currently trying to install my stuff back together, just got my ECU back from you guys today!
Great vid thank you. I have same bike but on Ls for another 2months. Bonus also is I wondered what it would look like without the white and black stripped stickers on fearings as I'm not a huge fan with them, looks awesome without. And have just seen you're in Moorabbin, today is a great day.
C. Fazz from a legal standpoint your bike needs to stay restricted until you’re off your Ps which is 2 years after you get your license
@@downforanything1265 even if I have full car licence?
C. Fazz yeah mate. You need to have a Lams bike for the duration of your probationary period
@@CFazz I'm in the same boat. Full car licensed. You get off your Ls after 3 months but you are stuck with P restrictions for 3 years even though you don't display the P plates if you're full car licensed.
Since I still got 2 years to go might upgrade to this from the ninja 300.
C. Fazz - I agree. I knew the bike would look better without those stripes but couldn't find a pic. Awesome lines. It looks faster and appears to have more finished quality.
is this as simple as just , take out the old in with the new , or do you need to do some change on the bikes computer and air to fuel ration?
Legend
Great video!
Do you sell the unrestricted and shorter snorkels? if don`t, where can I find them?
Thank you very much!
I can do one better than that. Ive just landed aftermarket snorkels/velosity stacks. They are not online yet, but will be in the coming days. They will sell for around $200.00. Email info@dynobike.com.au and can send you images etc.
Hello, nice video. what is the brand of tube not restricted ?
Awesome video mate...
Thanks
Can you post a link in the bio for the velocity stacks please? I can't find these anywhere!!! I'm in the US.
holy shit man that sound what exhaust is that?! i need one asap
Do you do the ecu as well ?
Don’t you have to tune it now? as there more air won’t it lean out the bike?
I have a yellow box inside and no air restrictors ... and if i remove the brick in the yellow box to the ECU my bike revs only to 10k rpm then it cutes the power... I don't know why. I have the normal air inthake snorcel.
So do I need to do any ECU modifications or changing the manifold will be enough to derestrict?
Who is your Honda's dealer to buy the intake funnels? Because I want it and I don't find this
Thank you
Where can I buy this intake ports? I cant finde. Can u send me link? I have akrapovic s-h6r14-hegeht with remove db killer and power comander V do u remap power comander also? And how much it will cost totaly with remap, i take ports and sport filter.? Thank u!!
Stock bikes in other countries are listed as 94bhp. That a statement of power at the flywheel and not the rear wheel like the numbers here?
Great video. Is it easy enough to do my self if not where could I take it to get de restricted?
It is straight forward, you need only minimal mechanic skill
We’re can I buy the intake snorkels from ?
I am going to do this to my one 👍
Thanks, this is an awesome video to see how Honda restrict their Australian bikes.
My understanding is the CB650R is restricted the exact same way, do you know if the CBR650R flash also applies for the CB650R?
No they are 2 different ECU's
Dynobike1992 thanks. Do you offer a flash for the CB650R?
@@Dynobike1992 that is incorrect dude both run exactly the same engine ecu i know as i own both
@@scottleaver8382 I can only speak for Australian models. They are different, they have different part numbers and the files do not match. But hey what do I know right.
If you think otherwise write the CB650R file to CBR650R, but make sure Hond has a replacement ECU in stock before you do..........
The bikes are exactly the same down to the bolts used for the handlebars. So the ECU. Should be the same model and make providing it's the same year
Hi I'm new to Biking, why do we need a dyno tune after derestricting a motorcycle.
Hi there how much is it to get engine control unit flashed on 2020 cent 650r.
hey mate I'm getting this bike soon and want to come to you to get it derestricted and tuned, is there anything else you can do to get the hp up besides using the new snorkels and putting a full exhaust system on? saw a dyno run that was 88hp at the wheel with the same bike and a full yoshi exaust system and was hoping for numbers close to that :)
I asked if they change over the snorkels but was told the will modify it , which kinda sucks because it’s stated that replacing them is much better for power
3:36 now that is a serious screwdriver
Guday Mate just wondering would a AUSTIN RACING DECAT slip on exhaust will be road legal for this bike and what to consider for road legal exhaust noise for inline four engines
Anything decat is no Bueno in legal aspects.
With baffles you'll get away with alot. Delkevic is an option
You said you "reflashed the ECU", does that basically mean you reset it then have to run the bike through the gears and rev ranges for the ECU to "relearn" the Fuel Mapping? ???
Do you can't go anymore on the highway after those modifications 😐🙄🤔 ?????
Where i can buy thats new plastic for airflow
Where do I get the un restricted snorkels from?
Gotta love a snap on ratchet screwdriver 🤟🏻
Great Vid great amount of performance, questions/ can I just carefully cut the holes end walls and make the circle ⭕️ as big as the new ones - or does the bikes needs some kind of computer adjustment and calibration after ???
I wouldn't advise it. The Lams bike has very differnt fuel mapping. Without a tune the bike will run lean and not perform very well, ultimately causing engine failure
Can you do a de-restriction on a suzuki sv650s
@dynobike1992 I'm in New Zealand, was wondering if the restrictions are the same on the ones here? And if so am I able to send my ECU over to you? If not is there someone in New Zealand that can do the same deal.
Yes it's the same bike. I can flash it for you. I've done a few from NZ
@@Dynobike1992 When the ECU for us, do we have to get it dyno tuned? I am planning to do this next year when I get my full license.
I have a cb650r with a power commander, full exhaust, and k&n filter. Could I dremel out my intake manifolds and use the power commander tune and be fine or will it need to be put on a dyno?
needs to be tuned or flashed. Your power commander tune is probably set up for the restricted versiopn so it will run too lean and overheat
Does it need ecu flash?
What would it be like if just the funnels were replaced but not flashed tuned
You guys still do Powergate3 and DNA filter for the CB650R? I can get my own intake trumpets and exhaust
Yes. All models from 2014-20.
the only limitation is that of the suction cones? or is there also a setting in the control unit?
The ecu needs a new tune as well
Hello, after changing that piece is necessary to remap the ecu? Thanks!
Yes you will need a tune to prevent engine damage
I'm tossing up between buying a new cbr650r and derestricting it or buying a used (3000km) cbr650f that has been derestricted and has a full akrapovic exhaust for 10k
I have the unrestricted air intakes but they are tall like the ones on the right ? I got them from dynobike is this right ?
Yes thats right
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Were in aus are u guys i need this de restrict
Hi dude, great video!! Does this work on a Honda CB650F?
Yes it does if it lams
i'm planning on buying a bike and i would love to get this cbr650r but still need to go under lams, think getting the cbr650r restricted first and de restricted once i'm good to go(done with lams) a good idea or not? not my first bike so i don't need to go for smaller bike first i wan't to keep it in the long run without buying a new bike once i'm done with lams
Its by far the best Lams bike to learn on first and then de restrict
@@Dynobike1992 1 more question is it legal or illegal to de restrict the cbr650r in australia?
@@silentshift444 if you are don't have a full licence then yes. You need to make inquires in your State/Territory to get all the correct information.
Hey mate is this the same for a 2020 cb650r
do you have a diy kit to derestricted this bike? or is it better to send the ecu to you guys? prices for both options if possible pls.
If you send us the ECU we can flash the file and send it back with snorkels. $685.00. Or you can buy a Powergate3 which comes with 2 of our tune files and the snorkels. You can then load tune file yourself and if required flash the orginal file back into it. The tool is also a scan tool the read and clear fault codes. Powergate3 is on special this months as an introductry offer for $995.00. Normal retail is $1149.00. dynobike.com.au/product-category/all/tuning/powergate/
I deresctrictes my bike i changed the air funnles myself and flashed ecu .
When i start the bike it revs by its own to 4000pm ? I dont know why ???
What would happen if I did this without also derestricting the ECU?
I'm not an expert at all, but the ECU settings when restricted cause less fuel to reach the cylinder. If you were to change the air intake without changing the ECU, the air to fuel ratio would be off and your bike would either run poorly or not run at all. If it does run you would risk damaging the engine.
Is this the same procedure on japanese models litre bike? I had a buddy of mine with a 2018 cbr1000rr Sp1 where its top speed capped at only 195km/h (roughly 120 mi).
really??
@@pabz83 yeah it won't climb up
@@FunwithNick damm that's sux.. I have an 07 cbr n that will do 299km/hr.. I haven't had the balls.. to take it to the max, but I went on a drag strip n got it up to 260 before backing it off.. shit myself lol
Wo gibt es diese zwei Doppelrohre zu kaufen auf 5:26 min. ?
hi, i have a limited cb650r. To be able to repower it, do I have to change only the intake ducts or do I have to change or modify the ECU as well?
intersted aswell; so?
Awesome vid! How much roughly do you guys charge for derestricting a cbr650r?
From $650.00
@@Dynobike1992 from 650??? How are you guys still in business
@@drasticskillzz3094 🤣🤣🙌👏👏
$650 for the 650
@@drasticskillzz3094 Easy enough to do it yourself
Is it as simple as following the steps to take it out and put it back in , and do you need to be on a unrestricted license for this service ? @dynobike1992
Rhys Mcbride if you do this and have an accident your insurance most likely won't pay you out if you're only on your RE license.
How come it has a lean spike at 2500ish ?
complete akrapovic exhaust + filter + intake ducts + Power Commander, how high can you get as maximum speed?
250
How much improvement was achieved? The pic of the dyno chart is too blurry to read...
37hp
Went from 35ish to 75ish
cant you just port out stock ones?
I'm getting ready to install an aftermarket exhaust on my CBR650F. Is it absolutely necessary to de-restrict the bike when doing an exhaust swap?
No it's not.
And where would be the best place to get a good deal on the akrapovic exhaust?
You can go to dynobike.com.au click on shop and icon at the top and away you go
I know this is an older video and not sure if you still check the comments. Are you in Sydney? If so, do you do the derestricting and if yes, how much? Cheers :)
We are ikn Melbourne, all I need is your ECU and intake snorkels go to the website to order yours dynobike.com.au
@@Dynobike1992 Thanks.
Hey matey not sure if you'll reply but how does go with registration and insurance once unrestricted is it fairly easy?
@Jayden Ranby yes matey, it's as easy as letting tje rms know it's no longer lams and informing your insurance :)
hey mate, wondering if the cb650r lams would be the same ? they share the same engine I believe, and wanting to derestrict it ASAP. thanks man
yes its the same
Did you end up de restricting your bike? I'm buying a 650r also. If you de restrict it, does that no longer make it lams?
@@wom73 if you de restrict it you then legally need to get it re-registered bla bla bla as a non lams bike, which would be fucken stupid as you’re probably only licenced for lams approved bikes. You wouldn’t be covered for insurance either. What ya do is get it de restricted and just don’t tell any bastard. It’s been almost 5 years hassle free for me now ;)
I wish they would pop and have a burble on deceleration a bit like the street triples do. The burbles my street triple made where that nice is with there would do the same
Different engine configuration. These can pop like a gunshot depending on the exhuast.
Ive got the MIVV GP Pro full exhaust on mine and it does that. Probably because its running lean tho lol
hey,i wanted to know if its possible to restrict a full power 90kw CBR650R to 35kw,and if yes could you send me a link to the site where i can buy a restrictor pls?
Thank you
I will buy your bike lol
Hi mate, two quick questions, why is only getting 80hp when the unrestricted model pushes 90?
And what's the reason for not chucking the original Honda unrestricted ECU? Cheers.
ask
same here ！
@@michaelna950 its because the factory shows the specs when they are tested at the crank not to the wheel so thats where the missing 12 hp is.
How much horsepower after the derestricting .
What you do after you dissconect the ecu, you just live it unconnected?
Asking that myself, but i dont think so, i think you plug an unrestricted one in
Is the ECU Change literally bike specific or is it a case of the restriction in the ECU is turned to "On" and you just turn it to "Off"? Haha
What was the difference in the dyno between the new manifold and the ported stock ones
2 hp
Hi, is this the same for the cb650r lams? Do you need a new/remapped cpu too?
Are you fr?
Do the longer snorkels give more mid-range torque compared to the shorter snorkels? I'm having a hard time getting the short snorkels so the shop is suggesting just modifying the longer ones. How much difference to peak power will it make and will I get more mid-range torque if I stick with the longer ones or are the short ones just better throughout the whole rev range?
We have a better alternative.
dynobike.com.au/product/honda-cbr650-cb650-kspp-high-flow-velocity-stacks-19/
@@Dynobike1992 Wow looks awesome!! Over 100hp. Is that at the wheel or crank?
What happened to the ecu?
I’m definitely considering this bike seriously. What is the CBR650F unrestricted version like in comparison if anyone could tell me .
The Lams/Restricted version is exactly the same bike as the full power model except for the ecu map and intake restrictiors.
Mitchell Boyd much appreciated 👍
so what happens if you only replace the intake manifold without flashing the ecu???
How does one flash the ECU?
I asked myself the same question
need a tune for 2006 cbr1000rr please
what happened to the ECU? did you replace with a new one?
We are not replacing the ECU, we flashed a new tune file to the ECU.
Hey mate where did u buy the funnels from
We didn't, the customer supplied them from USA. We have a much better system than that. dynobike.com.au/product/honda-cbr650-cb650-kspp-high-flow-velocity-stacks-19/
Looking at what air filter manifold came out of the stock bike I can say its not restricted but it's chocked maanifolds. Why would honda Rob us of horsepower like that?
License restrictions for Australia and Europe
Mate i got one and i want the restriction off how much would it cost? and are you guys mainly based in VIC?
just do it yourself. he showed you how to do it. it was straight forward. why pay someone just to unscrew 2 things.
@@tonyle9695 oh yeah let me remap the ecu myself too 😂
@@Asherah55 u can mail it in, im in NSW too. planning to do same thing, if u wanna change the rear light you will have to open, fuel tank, etc. all this anyway so could do both things at once.
@@juz882010 how did go with it? I am planning to do this next year once I get my full lisence.
So I just drill the restriction open and I'm good to go? Or will she get some error codes?
You can't just remove the restriction, the ECU must be flashed with a new tune file.
Has anyone had this done and can me a run down on there thoughts and if this effects engine reliability. Basically if there’s any negatives cheers guys.
There is no negative. Full power model bike has 75hp. The engine in lams model is the same only with external restrictions and ECU map changes. With our tune and pipe expect 85-88 hp
can you do this with a 650f and instead of getting new snorkels just dremel out the restrictor?
Yes
Dynobike1992 thanks
Are you going be doing one for a 17 cb500f
Brody Timbs why would he? cb500f isn't restricted
Hey!
How much bhp and torque will increase after removing the restrictions and new ecu???
you can find all that on the web site dynobike.com.au. Just click the tuning tab and select lams then your model. HP before and after is there.
@@Dynobike1992 Hey i couldn't find it?
Could you mention here the bhp increase ?
@@tanuj.55 stock is 40hp. Tuned is 85hp
@@Dynobike1992 thank you
@@tanuj.55 is it the answer you wanted ? 🤔
Where I can order the intake snorkels for the Cb650r
same here, please!
What if anything was done to the ECU?? Do you have to do something for it?
You gonna flash it
Hey can anyone help me here, I've bought a cbr 650f 2014, was advertised as a lams bike but after riding it I really don't think its ristrcted. I was planning to derestrict it anyway but is there a way to check if it was done properly with the ECU and not just having the airintake swapped?
You need to get it check on a dyno. Or send us the ECU and we can check it. If it has had the restriction removed and no tuning to match you'll end up with a blown engine.
@@Dynobike1992 ahh okay, thanks for the reply really appreciate it. I'll go dyno test it sometime soon and get your flashed ecu if needed. The bike runs really well in my opinion, would it still ride well if its not done properly?
Has anyone shipped in their ECU for de-restriction? Has it worked? How much less power if one was just to dremmel out the LAMS air intake valves? Thanks!
100's have. This is our most popular upgrade.
What would be the consequences of changing the intake funnels to the non restricted versions without a tune to go with it ? Cheers
It won't run right. It will run but far from optimal so you should get It tuned
Too lean a mixture. You can/will ruin valves or pistons. Not good at all!
Now I'm wondering if my CBR650F has these restricted snorkels (in the US)
I dont think the US gets the Lams model......but I'm not sure. Take a look at your snorkels then you'll know