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- Hey guys hope you all enjoyed my and the review/retrospective on Sonic 4 Episode 1! It’s interesting I never got around to playing it till now but it always allured me for some reason lmao! If you enjoyed don't forget to subscribe and leave a like on the video! Thanks again for watching the Sonic 4 Episode 1 retrospective/review! :)
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This video makes Cybershell's look merciful.
Bruh cyber’s video also had him shitting on the game every second
@@Eldarin Unfortunately, Sonic 4 episode 2 is the only Sonic 4 game available on my phone. Wait, did I say "unfortunately"? OOPS! I DID NOT MEAN TO SAY "UNFORTUNATELY"!!! I AM SO SORRY!
@@Eldarin i played episode 2 and...... well... I totally did not throw my tablet across the room! Totally!
Indeed it does. This game is Utter Shit, they both proved it in their way
@@cumcockproductions6433
Yee but this guy was raging in this game were Cyber Shell sound calmer (I think).
Fun fact: the mobile Sonic 4 episode 2 was added to the “Sega Forever” program, WITHOUT episode 1 lol
Damn talk about a dissing...Interesting fact also, thanks for sharing :)
wait, does that mean the game free now?
@@whatdidyoujustcallme6242 yep, got it on my phone my dude, except now Episode 1 costs money on PC anyways
@@Eldarin 20:32 I hope this doesn't make you dislike this game more but the extra life sound is actually from Sonic 3 meaning all sounds are 100% reused.
I mean I can’t say sonic 4 episode 2 is particularly “great” but especially when compared to episode 1 its a pretty good game, the physics are way better and pretty faithful to genesis trilogy the graphics are way better, (my personal favorite is the recreation of sonic and tails on the tornado)
No fucking clownish boss music, an actually original final boss
What can I say, the massive difference in quality between the 2 games makes it hard to believe they have an episodic connection since episode 1 looks like a flash game from a malware site
I remember they did a competition to make fan videos for Sonic 4, and the winner got to play Sonic 4 early. What a great prize.
When Ep.1 costs you money and every other Sega games on mobile (+Ep.2) are completely free you know even Sega wanted you to forget about the game.
lol
they forgot to make it free
sonic 4: exists
eldarin: *screaming*
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*Why isn't Sonic 4 referenced in the elevator in Sonic Mania's teaser?*
Everyone: BeCaUsE iT fUcKiNg SuCkS sO mUcH aSs LoLoLoLoLoLmFaO
Me, an intellectual: *_B e c a u s e i t ' s a M o d e r n g a m e , n o t a C l a s s i c o n e_*
ok you may actually be on to somthing...
No, it was just shit
That's what I thought too!
Both
@@IBL15 YEAH. THAT MAKES SENSE.
Cybershell: "Gooood. Let the hate flow through you."
IF YOU ARE NOT WITH ME...*THEN YOU ARE MY ENEMY* (thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed :)
@@Eldarin 1/10 is too generous. heck anything below zero is too generous in terms of rating sonic 4
Man, if you really think about it Forces is like Sonic 4 of boost games. Maybe the cycle thing is actually real.
>it's been 10 years since Sonic 4
I'm not old, you are
tfw when that makes both of us then😔
I wanted to cry during that death egg robot fight. Its not even that hard really, It takes sooooo long and that final insta death attack bs at the end is so cheap. Also i couldn't bring myself to collect all of the emeralds. I don't think i ever will. Props for that
Dont for the love of your sanity DO NOT do the emeralds..it was horrible, and that death egg fight UGHHHHHHH so many times I had to redo it LOL. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video!
I quit the game in the final boss. I replayed the first levels today and the physics drive me mad. I finished all the classics but this one having these horrible physics, how on earth was it released with those physics?
Me: "I like Sonic 4!"
Eldarin: "WTF DID YOU JUST FUCKING SAID?!"
Me: "UHhhhh, Oh sorry, I mean Sonic Mania Plus!"
Eldarin: "Ooohhh, haha, wth was I thinking?"
Hahahaha, seriously though if you enjoy S4E1 that's totally ok, as it's just my opinion. I'm not going to try and take someone's enjoyment out of vidya they like. I do love me some S4E2 doe😎 Thanks for watching!
@@Eldarin mogus
@@Eldarin what why did you love my stupid comment
@@noel6133 bc it was funny
@@noel6133 ඞ
you forgot the xbox avatar cosmetics, when you get all 15 rings in the end credits you get a sonic head for your avatar.
*totally worth it*
Thank you for reminding me that “What up Sonic squad.” Is a thing that Sonic has said.
But fr this is a pretty great vid, love the quick pace and talking points.
Yeah...I love RCS but Jesus that line still makes me cringe...thanks so much for watching it really means a lot to hear you enjoyed it!
God damn this was cathartic to see S4 ripped to shreds, and the part about the bottomless pits was so funny I had tears in my eyes.
I feel like the return of Cybershell means a wake of amazing Sonic youtube kino, and I can't wait to see more. Subscribed and I'm binge watching all your videos.
Aw I'm so happy you enjoyed it and if you have any advice or anything let me know Im all ears! It really sucks because going in I REALLY wanted to like this game and put it on the list of "Sonic games that should be given a second chance" but lord almighty I just couldn't. Sonic kino is the best kino!
@@Eldarin yeah man good luck, you make good stuff. probably some advice would be just do what you want to do man and enjoy it. I have a close friend who wanted to do youtube as a hobby, but kept following what every commenter wanted and just got totally burnt out
That’s really insightful thanks so much, I will :D
If SEGA wanted to tap into the nostalgia factor, they'd make a game about sprite battles.
I really want to see a 2D game with the Advance/Battle sprites again. Those are some of my favorite in the series!
@@Eldarin Also, a little fact from Episode 1's music: it's a bit different in the Wii version (which I own).
I didn't know that! really interesting fact!!
I didn't play Sonic 4 and I never will (although I would buy all parts if they released Episode 3) - all my reasons are literally in this video. Sega even regrets calling Sonic 4, well... Sonic 4. The only good thing to come out of it is Splash Hill's music and Metal Sonic's theme from Ep. 2. They used Modern Sonic in here because (at least from what I know) in S3&K Sonic's eyes turn green when in Super/Hyper form. This fact qualifies Sonic 4 for being canonically between S3&K and SA1 and explains the sudden change of all characters (Classic to Modern). That's why it isn't referenced in Mania - it doesn't happen in to Classic Sonic. This may also explain the statement from that one interview that S3&K isn't canon - it is, but only in the modern universe. In the classic universe S3&K surely isn't canon (only S3 alone and S&K alone) because in Mania Sonic's eyes are still black and as I said earlier Super/Hyper Sonic's eyes are green on the sprites.
Thanks for the reply. It's interesting...(I got into it in the ep2 video) but for episode 3, before Whitehead was working on the mobile ports of 1&2 he was actually offered by SEGA to WORK ON EPISODE 3!!!! The studio that was hosting it ended up shutting down but I always wondered what would have happened if we got Ep.3... Also thats interesting about what happens with the modern/classic universe thing and the eyes. (I hate the modern/classic universe crap also hahah)
Wasn't the whole Super/Hyper Sonic green eyes thing in 3&K a glitch?
@@publiccrown2382 Probably a result of palette limitation but if it is canon it could explain many things.
"The only good thing to come out of it is Splash Hill's music and Metal Sonic's theme from Ep. 2."
Hey, that's not true! There's also Mad Gear Act 1 and 2, plus Sky Fortress from Ep. 2. Oh and the pinch mode/Ep2 boss theme, but it's a bit too short for what it is.
14:09 - 14:15 I love how even when you're raging about the devs, you still manage to be somewhat polite to them
11:15 “and for the definitive way to play this game, just fucking don’t”
By god man’s got no mercy for Sonic 4 💀
This is a really high quality video, you need more recognition
It really means a lot thank you so much!
TIL that Sonic 4 was originally developed as a Mobile game that was repurchased for consoles. The gyroscope function of the mobile game explains so much of the level design now.
It’s crazy to think! I feel that if this was kept as “just a mobile game” it’s fan outcry wouldn’t have been anywhere near as bad
People think of Sonic Colours as the start of negative elements for Sonic in the 2010s, and I agree on many fronts. However, Sonic 4 is definitely what kicked off the nostalgia pandering this series would not let go of. And considering the lack of anything in this game, it deserves all the hate it gets.
Really, if they didn't call this game Sonic the Hedgehog 4, I don't think it would have been nearly as hated. But Sega advertised it as a sequel to Sonic & Knuckles, yet it has less content and less original ideas than all five (if you separate S3 and SK) of the 16-bit entries. I played the demo on the Wii and on the PlayStation 3, and the broken physics were an immediate turn-off. It's not wrong for people to expect them to match the Mega Drive titles when all those games have superb physics, and they were coded in the early 1990s.
If you told me Sonic Advance were a sequel to Sonic & Knuckles, I'd take that over Sonic 4: Episode I.
You mentioned this point in the video as well: why split the game into episodes? The only title in the past that did it was Sonic 3, and that's because of that McDonald's deal messing with development time. And the point is furthered because nothing plot-wise in Episode II has anything to do with Episode I. Episode I has no plot other than Sonic wanting to defeat Dr Eggman.
I've heard it mentioned by other users that Sonic 4 feels like Sega's attempt to cash in on the New Super Mario Bros. series. I believe that was a factor because the timing checks out. The original DS game came out in 2006, and it became the best selling Nintendo DS title of all time. The Wii game launched in 2009, and it sold very well, too. The difference in those nostalgia trips is that they had some original ideas (Wii has 4-player co-op), added new mechanics (like Wall Jumping) that didn't hurt the established gameplay, and they're full games.
With you bringing up the Eurogamer review, not only did they give it a 9/10 (seriously!?), with Gibson saying that this supposedly being the game we've been asking for 15 years. Its almost as if there was no 2D side scrolling games at all inbetween Adventure and Unleashed, if a 2D game was all this *cough* "professional journalist" wanted from Sonic. And it becomes even more rich when she complains about "miserable old purists," even though she spent a good bit of the review basically complaining about how 3D is terrible, and how it should never have been a thing for Sonic in the first place, as he doesn't belong there. Also with the site's review of episode 2, they said episode 1 felt better to control, as well as scoring it higher than episode 2, giving it a 6/10.... what!?
Oh yea, and the reviewer, for episode 1, also called Vanilla a slutty rabbit in the review as well.
That makes a good point about comparing this too the other 2D games which were pretty much sweet under the rug. Heck advance 1 is more worthy of the “sonic 4” label compared to this crap. It amazes me how “game journalists” like this wanted it to go back to Sonics roots yet don’t even know what constitutes “2D sonic”. Yeah I saw that about the ratings compared to E2 which is also a joke because S4E2 is by far a superior game compared to this
@@Eldarin while it may have been a different person reviewing episode 2 I don't know if its because Tails was there they knocked points off it when looking at the review, as that one of the big things Gibson was trumpeting about at the start of the episode 1 review, "finally, Sonic's stupid friends are gone!" As along with calling Vanilla slutty, they also called Vector stupid, despite him being a detective. I know opinions are a thing, and everyone's entitled to them, but I really do wonder sometimes if "journalists" are just trying to score points with the cool kids. It really does remind me of what James Hetfield said about Metallica, in an interview with Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson, saying about probably being the biggest target around and how people love to take shots rather than actually sitting down and trying to find something they like from whats being offered.
@@DemonDethchase when you're a sonic fan, you learn to hate journalist very quickly.
@@taylord5381 its not just for Sonic for me, but for Devil May Cry as well. Because back when the Ninja Theory reboot (Devil may Cry: Devil May Cry) was coming out, gaming journalists - along with Ninja Theory themselves - were seriously going out of their way to try and bury OG Dante and the original series, claiming that fans were "entitled" and the older games were too immature compared to the new Ninja Theory game. And After Devil May Cry 5 was announced, the gaming press were throwing shade on it because it wasn't their beloved DmC2.
Every single track in the "classic games" is synth music, hi
@@midi_feline yep 👍
I realized something from this, channel pups, and cybershell's videos on Sonic 4(EP:1) and its that while dimps made this game for mobile only type game, who ever made this idea at SEGA/Sonic Team(probably Lizuka) had the developers change the name to Sonic 4 and have it released to every hardware really didn't think on what Made the Classics so great to begin with.
Sonic was way more than just simple little stories about a blue hedgehog with a 90s attitude that eats chilidogs fighting a fat silly doctor with his stupid friends and simpler gameplay(and ironically that's exactly what we got from the meta era, especially Sonic Lost World) When in reality the classics were way more than that. Japan didn't see Sonic has that, especially when you read the story manuals for Sonic 1, 2, 3&K(I wanted to put more but these are the primal example on what im about to type)
While the West simply says that Dr. Robotnik done bad, Stop him... The Japanese version on the other hand goes all in and creates lore of the islands, ancient civilization, Gods, the worlds building around Sonic, the importance of the Chaos Emeralds since Sonic 1 and so on.
Not to mention having proper physics and momentum as well as added challenges and actual secret paths.
And honestly this is the reason why we get games like we do nowadays... Because of people acceptance of mediocrity nonsense
After hearing the articles through these videos, I realized Something... That all these claims of Sonic back in the day were said mainly by Those outside the Sonic spectrum. While there are some fans that have that same mindset, it seems that only those who are critics or average gamers see sonic as Mario than what they character actually is and what he represents.
Heck Japanese(Original) Sonic is different from American Sonic(except in the dark age) yet this is the version most people view him as(mainly from the 90s).
You couldn't have said it any better my friend...I 100% agree JP sonic has always been this crazy lore and story that the American side didnt get which is what caused this notion of "no friends and simple blue hedgehog is good" which is disappointing to me. I am super happy to hear you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching!!
@@Eldarin you're welcome.
I used to have that mindset not too long ago and realize that wasn’t the way to be a Sonic fan.
I used to dumb down on Sonic, meaning I prefer simpler stories, gameplay but really that was (in a less insulting way) “not the right mindset”.
Sonic stories can work just need good writing and faithfulness to the characters personality that’s it.
Mario has a lot move-sets and such and that was Super Mario World the first to do that (I think correct me) so I don’t see why Sonic shouldn’t have a lot of move-sets.
I made a list of how to improve the gaming side of the Sonic franchise btw in a comment so yee it’ll be in the update video.
90s JP Sonic is my favorite version of him
20:36 Bruh, thats litteraly the original sonic 3 1-up jingle remix
Sonic Triple Trouble 16-Bit is the real Sonic 4 to me, and no one can convince me otherwise
Holy shit, what a brutal review lmao.
Like I can take alot of crap for games but this was one of the few games I felt like insulted as a sonic fan to play..I know I was probably late to the party but oh my god it really was that bad. if I played this in 2010 I would've been in one of those videos of a kid throwing his xbox on the ground LOL
This is an abysmal game. Even Sonic 06 could've been something decent if it weren't rushed horribly. This game had every intent to be so shallow and disgustingly unoriginal lump of garbage code.
Good review overall.
7:52 This made me laugh so much. Good Job!
Thanks so much Luiginess! Im really happy you enjoyed the video :D Thanks for watching!
Plot twist: this is Cybershell’s son.
Anyways, great review. I agree with most if not, all of what you said. Episode 1 is an absolute disappointment in my opinion. If they actually went and made this follow up to the classic games properly while being original, it would have been better.
5:04 Sonic falling straight down like a looney toon after realizing they've just walked off a cliff
Should have added the Goofy scream
that wouldve been hilarious LOL
Fun Fact the lives count music used for this game and Episode 2 was actually originally from Sonic 3 Solo when you didn't combine the game with Sonic and Knuckles.
Yeah but the Sega genesis sound font in sonic 3 makes it so much better
Sonic 4’s is a shitty recreation of the sound with excessive use of drums and shit
@@CrimsonCreationAGM Oh you got that right.
23:26
Did people just forget about the 0/10 score?
I remember the hype for this game before it release, and then how it fell apart when the game was shown and it looked so bad. Very surprisingly too, considering Dimps's track record at that point in time, since the Sonic handheld games were quite decent (at least the ones I've played).
As for the physics, yeah, it's awful. I don't know how anybody in development could test play that and approve it. Although the same could be said for the 2D section in Sonic Generations, which again, completely messed up on the building of momentum. It wasn't until Sonic Mania, which practically copied over the classic physics, that a 2D Sonic game finally felt good to play again.
Also, lol at those "professional" game ratings.
I was away from the fanbase when this game was releasing but some of the most interesting parts of making this video was reading the comments leading up to release..it was hopeful and as more info slowly got leaked it just got sadder and sadder to read. I 100% agree about Generations 2D sections, they're awful mechanic wise, the level set pieces are pretty and cool though so I'll give it that. I wonder if they ever bring back "classic" sonic to 3D (god forbid) how hard it would be to translate the Genesis mechanics over to the modern 2D realm and stop putting a spin on it like having the spindash launch you across the stage. Thanks for watching!
Advance 1 and 3 are pretty good and have great physics (especially 3 with its awesome teams) , 2 is ok but too linear and screencrunched with shitty bosses, rush and rush adventure are good but flawed, colors ds is better than the wii version in level design
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 I did like the Advance games, but they were kind of held back by the tiny screen they were made for. It'd be nice to see an HD remake for those.
@@Milennin advance 1 and 3 are mostly free of annoying screen crunch, but advance 2 and rush are murdered by it in certain levels.
It's sad that after colors ds dimps got shitty deadlines and budgets and shat out gens 3ds and sonic 4...
I wonder how Dimps made a game that is offensive to every being on Earth, and how Sonic Team thought it was a good idea to smear this shit onto the seventh gen consoles
You haven’t learned true terror until you played the Ouya version, I have a free emulator because I didn’t want to buy the crappy console
Hope we can make a mod that improves the physics in this game
That Title and Thumbnail. 😂🎉
The raw audacity pulled me in for another Sonic 4 takedown.
I swear, if I got on this man's bad side, I know I would be fucked.
I know that this man is being very serious and very genuine with his raw rage when talking about this game and I honestly can't blame him as a long-time die-hard loyal Sonic fan myself I completely understand but holy shit I can't stop laughing!
The reaction to the extra life jingle was way over the top, lol
The tagline of this game should be “artificial”
Sonic fans after sonic 3: Hopefully a sonic 4 releases.
Sonic fans after sonic 4: yeah.... that's enough.
Awesome video, loved every minute!
thank u
Boss Rushes.
One of the only times they did it right is in Pizza Tower.
12:56 weird thing to point out but am I the only one that notice those faces in lost labyrinth looks like a Minecraft villager?
Great video btw. This game is the embodiment of soullessness.
LMAO I totally see it. Thank you for the kind words, hope you enjoy what’s to come! I 100% agree there is no soul in this game lol
20:33 actually the 1 up music was used from the original sonic 3.
I didn't know that!!!
@@Eldarinlol
This is literally sonic 4 in 4 words: a quick cash grab
As much as I’m really not a fan of ‘Mega Man 9 & 10’, I can easily say that those games are light-years ahead of representing its respective franchise’s roots than ‘Sonic 4/ Sonic The Portable’ could ever pull off.
I’m honestly so glad the strange era of corporate-produced faux-retro styled games has been over for years now, and fans who know the titles they grew up with like the back of their hands are making it big from their own projects inspired from what they love (Freedom Planet, Celeste, Shovel Knight, Sonic Mania etc.) while also providing their own identities and strengths to distinguish themselves from their inspirations.
Thanks for watching! I’ve never played the MM series (I need to!) I 100% agree I’m also happy this souless era has somewhat passed (or it’s easier to spot idk) as a game like this in my opinion is a complete insult to their respective fanbases just trying to milk money out of people and i know for a fact that if I bought this for $20-25 when it first came out I would’ve FREAKED!
This game is a remake part sequal
-IGN 8/10
WTH??
I will say that I do prefer the Death Egg Robot design in this game
15:04, 15:41 you made me laugh a lot with this video and it made my day, I hope your channel thrives man!
If you think title screen for the other platforms were lifeless wait till you see the moblie port
Remeber when we thought green eyes was gonna be the biggest problem with sonic 4
I kind of feel like the level of rage here might be just a teeny bit irrational. haha But as someone who grew up with the Sonic games on Sega Genesis (I actually grew up in the NES era, but when the next gen consoles came out, our parents got us a Sega Genesis instead of a Super Nintendo. So I missed out on Super Mario World, which I've since played, but transitioned from old school Mario to Sonic 1, 2, and 3&K). As someone who grew up on these Sonic games and loved them, I've always believed Sonic is, in essence, a 2D platformer. The whole concept of Sonic just doesn't work in 3D. So when they announced a true Sonic 4 that was supposed to be a directly sequel of 3&K, I was exceedingly happy, only to have my heart broken when I finally bought the game and experienced how terrible it was. Sonic deserved much better.
I mean, gamechamp3000 likes sonic 4. But he is an alien since he Beat smash ultimate without any spirits and Pokémon red without taking damage, so don't worry. There's no human that likes this game.
CyberShell would be proud
14:16 what a coincidence because I made an idea for a fan made sonic level that’s called bottomless pit zone where sonic has to dodge falling boulders and spikes and there will be some platforming with low gravity. When you get to the fight with Eggman sonic equips a blaster and it basically becomes in Alien Shooter arcade game.
Drink every time he's says the F word.
Me:🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛🥛
*dies of alcohol poisoning*
Cybershell: He does everything I do...
...*Looks at Eldarin* but better.
Tbh if this had stayed as the mobile game it was conceived as we all wouldn't be so hard on it. Because it really feels like it, everything makes sense with that in mind, the reused zones, the weird physics, having no story, and Sonic only. It's a mobile game that Sega demand to change the title of to get more money, and that's it's biggest sin, it would be a fine entertaining mobile game otherwise.
Honestly if it stayed on consoles but wasnt called sonic 4 it still wouldve been berated because mobile games are held at a much lower standard for quality
Omg this was so amazing!
Beautiful video
Sonic 4 truly is the hottest of hot garbage
Thank you! Super happy to hear you enjoyed the video :)
CD is also missing from the elevator despite being a classic game.
Weirdly, yee
Yet it literally has two zones (Stardust Speedway Zone & Metallic Madness Zone), Sonic.T.H.1 only had one zone in Mania Plus (Green Hill Zone).
where it all started between me and you
It all starts with this...
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Love to hear it and thanks! Let me know if you have any suggestions on games or anything :D
@@Eldarin Sure thing
Amazing how a simple name change can make people so hateful towards a game. I bet if they kept the name Sonic The Portable everyone in the fandom would be like "Hey? Remember that clunky Sonic game Sega released on mobile phones around 2010? Weird, right?" I'm not saying that Sonic 4 is a good game. I'm saying that everyone acts like it was created to be a sequel to the classic games when in reality they only decided to change just the name a literal year before the game was released.
So in other words, Executive Meddling
@@victorgaminglounge3967 Exactly
@@vegetafan9922 While I do understand why Sega made that very dumb decision of having a mobile phone game disguised as a sequel to the classics and making it episodic, since around that time Sonic was a complete joke to the general public because of the Dark Age games like Shadow and Sonic 06 ruining the brands reputation. But COME ON ON SEGA why can't you leave it as just a mobile phone game??? you don't have to executive meddle with it. Plus the fact that Sonic Colors came along THE FOLLOWING MONTH and that game saved the brands reputation... at least for a while at the time, making the ENTIRE Sonic 4 Saga Absolutely POINTLESS and a huge waste of time and maybe even money.
That's the point. If it wasn't *given* the title "Sonic 4", it wouldn't be hated as much. Keyword: Given. Titles that call themselves sequels to a successful game has to be *earned,* not given!
Its as if referring to something as a sequel to have it held to the same standards or something
The reason they didnt use classic sonic was because this released before generations so there was no real distinction between classic and modern sonic yet. This was just how sonic the hedgehog looked
Nostalgia: *exists*
Sonic Team: YES
The fact the title theme only played in my left ear horrified me
G R A V I T Y
something S4E1 doesn't know exists!! haha
@@Eldarin I disagree, it's keenly aware of gravity and applies it specifically to bottomless pits.
ok you got me there...it’s like in 3K with the gravity switches in the Death Egg hahaha
Ah yes, the first eldarin video I watched
thr reason why sonic 4 isnt on the elevator is that it isnt a classic game
I'm new to your channel, and I went from watching the Sonic 3 and Knuckles vid to this one...the stark difference in tone is hilarious
Sonic 4 episode 1 has thumbnail level saturation 💀💀💀 (This is from a person who likes Sonic 4) good video btw.
Dimps must have teamed up with eggman to screw sonic and the player over as much as they possibly could.
This entire video made me realize something
I really have a lot of fun playing 4 EP I despite the amount of problems
But this made me realize that if it was me talking about Forces, it would be exactly like this video, pissed, swearing, shitting all over it...
And now I understand the people who thinks Forces is fun because I have the same feeling towards 4 EP I.
Damn. Magical
no one is saying you cant enjoy playing a video game, thats not for me to decide what is fun and what is not to you
@@Eldarin I've been told many times im not allowed to have an opinion on the game and that I'm part of the sonic 4 defense force
@@cakelayerthe dame thing happened to me!
@cakelayer try leaving the Sonic 4 Defense Force don't let them control you
I remember my first reaction when I played this game from the first time, and it was of pure disgust, I dropped after Splash Hill Act 1 and never tried playing it again since then. The only reason I remember even playing it was because I loved playing the free mobile version of Sonic 4 Episode 2 and I wanted to check the first episode.
seaside hill? that's from sonic heroes
@@effie-petrosseferlis3783 oops. Sorry! Now I just fixed it.
I can only hear Sonic 4 episode 1's intro theme in one ear while the rest of the video is in both.
At least Episode 2 wasn't a total Bomb. I liked it quite a lot actually!
Sonic 4 was a gross marketing stunt that took total advantage of the fans and it deserves everything it gets, this was a fantastically cathartic video and I agree with it 100%. Sonic 4 is actually one of my least favorite games in the series alongside Lost World and Forces, just because of what it represents. They all share similar aggravating traits: lazy development, obvious shame of the brands true identity, a complete misunderstanding of the point of the series, complete disregard of actual fans, and just gratuitous, pathetic, distastefully recycled nostalgia whoring. About as shallow as you can make a Sonic game. 06 even is above all of them for me which is pretty shocking. Of course, this is exactly what modern game journalists like IGN and people like Egoraptor want the series to be evidently, with the real fans left completely discarded and only occasionally milked for nostalgia bucks. soniks stoopid frends am i right fellas?? baldy nosehair!! so edgy haha!! big the cat XD!!!!!
Anyway, on a less psychotic breakdown note, this channel is a new favorite of mine. Always can do with some great Sonic content, especially from someone who gives the Adventure games their due credit! I feel like Cybershell would like this video a lot actually, someone should send it to him.
I’m so happy to hear you are enjoying the videos! And I 100% agree with you when it comes to this game. I have this weird relationship with Forces where my friends and I like it on meta-ironic level...it’s fun to laugh at. I’ll never forget because Forces/Mania being free on PS+ is what brought me back to the franchise post 2008 (not knocking those games I just got obsessed with halo) and when the “final battle” happens in forces I was laughing my head off...looks like someone’s first day in blender LOL
@@Eldarin Forces _is_ a pretty good source of amusement. Admittedly, I often find myself quoting the "none of this is good Vector, that's why it's called war!" and "DOES ANYONE BUT YOOU BELIEVE YOUR LIIEES?!" on a regular basis. On the blender thing, no joke, before the game came out some cutscenes leaked, including the one where Shadow kicks his clone away from Sonic. I 100% genuinely thought it was a fake SFM animation when I saw it so I dismissed it, not even exaggerating. When I saw it was in the final game once it came out I was absolutely flawed, laughed my ass off, they made this game in a week on crack. Anyway, love that you read the comments and stuff, can't wait for more videos!
@@Squishito Thanks! Im happy to hear your excited about the videos :D My favorite line from that game is from Silver with the "Im an optimist but im also a realist" which completely sums up the sonic community with Sonic Team and their games anymore hahahah
I personally think ep 1 is just alright, I do like ep 2 more though
BTW I liked that spongebob bit
I actually made a pitch back in I think mid 2017 when I was about to leave middle school (sadly I miss them) for Sonic The Hedgehog 4 Episode 3.
My version of Episode 3 would well obviously take place after Episode 2 and be about getting back the Master Emerald and finally saving Little Planet.
Story:
After the events of Episode 2 Sonic & Tails crashed land on Angle Island and Eggman sent Robo Sonic and Mecha Sonic to retrieve the Master Emerald.
The Master Emerald was stolen and Knuckles was chasing them down but he across paths with Sonic & Tails so the trio went on to get the Emerald back.
Angle Island Zone: 3 Acts still (I think I was just thinking about having only 2 acts with Robo Sonic & Mecha Sonic the SMBZ Mecha Sonic cause idk).
After having a hard time defeating Mecha Sonic Neo Metal Sonic came in and stole the Emerald and they found a ship to chase Metal down.
Egg Saturn Zone
They fought Neo Metal Sonic and defeated him but the Master Emerald was already taken to the Death Egg Mk II but Sonic was split from the rest and had to fight the Death Egg Mk II on his own.
Tails & Knuckles escaped the ship with Tails flying Knuckles back to Angle Island.
Death Egg Mk II:
When going through the west side of the Death Egg at the end Sonic fought a robot that looks exactly exactly like him weirdly and doing the race thing again when Sonic went Super the robot when Super also this is something that’ll question the player as well as Sonic as he has no idea on how Eggman even made him like that.
Another hard time defeating the robot in an elevator with tight space.
Little Planet Zone:
Going through Little Planet again he faces against the Death Egg heart but this time it’s part of a giant robot with a slicer at the bottom that he launches at Sonic.
The Death Egg Mk II explodes with Sonic going Hyper thanks to the Master Emerald in the robot just like with Doomsday Zone.
The same thing like in Sonic 3&K ending with Sonic bringing back the Master Emerald to Knuckles and also Little Planet going back to Never Lake (wasn’t that the name of the area?) and disappearing again.
There’s a cliffhanger scene with Eggman in an Eggmobile having the mysterious Robot Sonic (obvious key word)
In the newer pitch I changed it to having Mighty, Ray and Amy in to and they all help Sonic in the Death Egg Mk II with 6 super characters fighting the Death Egg Heart.
Also there more zones too Mountropolis Zone, Tropical Wave Zone, Mine Canyon Zone, Lava Ground Zone.
Here’s the same pitch but extended
Tropical Wave Zone:
After the events of Episode 2 Sonic & Tails crashed land on Tropical Splash Zone and meet Ray they then venture to get back to the Death Egg Mk II and fought Badniks as well as a boss.
Mountropolis Zone:
In Mountropolis they meet Amy and she wants to help so she tags along as well and the same thing repeats.
They went to Mine Canyon Zone and same thing repeat minus meeting another character thing.
Mine Canyon Zone:
Lava Ground Zone:
They found a ship from Eggman which was the one that send Badniks and Bosses for Sonic and co to fight.
They head to Angle Island Zone and Eggman sends both Robo Sonic and Mecha Sonic to retrieve the Master Emerald.
The Master Emerald was stolen and Knuckles & Mighty (idk he was hanging out with Knuckles) chased them down but he across paths with Sonic and co so the gang went on to get the Emerald back.
Angle Island Zone:
After having a hard time defeating Mecha Sonic Neo Metal Sonic came in and stole the Emerald and they found a ship to chase Metal down.
Egg Saturn Zone:
They fought Neo Metal Sonic and defeated him but the Master Emerald was already taken to the Death Egg Mk II.
They found multiple pods to take them there to Death Egg Mk II.
Death Egg Mk II:
When going through the west side of the Death Egg at the end Sonic and co fought a robot that looks exactly exactly like Sonic from the shade of colors to design and everything well with robot features similar to Mecha and Metal extremely weird and confusing.
Sonic and the robot Sonic dook it out in a race like with Metal and when Sonic went Super the robot when Super also this is something that’ll question the player as well as Sonic as he has no idea on how Eggman even made him like that.
Another hard time defeating the robot in an elevator with tight space.
All 6 of them meet up and head to Little Planet the heart of the Death Egg Mk II Zone.
Little Planet Zone:
Going through Little Planet again they faced off against the Death Egg heart but this time it’s part of a giant robot with a slicer at the bottom that he launches at Sonic.
The Death Egg Mk II explodes with all of them going Hyper thanks to the Master Emerald in the robot just like with Doomsday Zone.
The same thing like in Sonic 3&K ending with Knuckles taking back the Master Emerald also Little Planet going back to Never Lake (wasn’t that the name of the area?).
Sonic and co watched as the Little Planet disappeared once again again.
There’s a cliffhanger scene with Eggman in an Eggmobile having the mysterious Robot Sonic (obvious key word).
Gameplay:
Pretty much the exact same gameplay style from Sonic 3&K.
Sonic is the same however has the Insta-Shield & the Super Banana Peel-Out.
Tails can fly and tail spin.
Knuckles can punch.
Mighty can also punch and throw enemies at another.
Ray can grab enemies with his tail and spin it throwing parts of the Badnik to another.
Amy can do a Hammer Spin-Dash which is just the Super Peel-Out and Hammer Slam which bounces her in a direction you faced.
Like Encore Mode and Herpes you can switch between all 6 characters and you’d can only pair two and switch one of them to another character think of like doing that without having to hit an Item Box in Encore Mode.
For example you have Sonic & Tails but you can switch out Sonic with Mighty so a character who’s shell deflects projectiles and another who can fly or you can switch out Tails with Ray or Knuckles or Amy.
As you progress through the game you get more characters and at the start have Sonic & Tails and then get Ray and so on and so fourth.
Levels:
Just have the level design be designed with balancing platforming, speed and exploration that’s it.
Also Big Rings but I’ll get it that.
Extra content redo of both Episode 1 & 2 zones in Episode 3 but not as unlocks less but just there redo with improved level design, new esthetics for Ep 1 zones, 2 acts for both Ep, Sonic & Tails playable for all 8 Zone with the Death Egg Mk II being more like Sonic 3&K, Elemental Shields with the Green Shield, and Big Rings.
Also why Neo Metal Sonic well the Purple stuff would’ve been elaborated with Sonic 4 Ep4 (bonus Ep) which explained the mysterious robot Sonic.
17:17 I like how he snuck episode 2 music in an episode 1 video
This was the first sonic game I ever played and thus defended it with every inch of my being.
That was until I actually played through the entire game for the first time in 12 years and yea it's indefensible.
The music is alright tho
i watched this video TEN times just because this video is better than the actual game itself
OMG ten times, thats insane! I'm glad you liked it so much! Thank you for watching, it really means alot!
Good video sir. New subscriber now :)
Thank you so much!! I’m glad you enjoyed it, really means a lot to me. Stay tuned for more soon :)
I enjoyed this video so goddamn much. Have a sub and a like, bro. Keep up your awesome work.
"The boss music was originally made for Sonic 3D"
Maybe it was scrapped for a reason lol
I had more fun with both Sonic 4 games than with the rest of the Genesis/Megadrive Sonic Saga. You're allowed to get mad at me.
You are entitled to your opinion man! Nothing is wrong with that, I won’t get mad lol
@@Eldarin Thanks, I know my opinion is not the most popular but my gaming likes are all over the place and I ended up liking it. lol
@@GAMEandRODO hey man, it doesnt matter if your opinion is the most popular or not all that matters is that its your opinion and no one can take that away from ya :)
@Uzi Rana by saying that, you're saying every modern sonic game sucks, since SA1, there have been homing attack chains and dash panels, that isnt a bad thing, criticising those just makes you sound like a classic fanboy, no offense, also sorry for those other comments
I do love this game. But I am not blind to it's many flaws and strange choices.
Agree
So i never played the classics when I got 4 but DID play the advance games and I have a fun enough time
I'm happy to hear you had a fun time with 4. I really enjoyed S4E2 but not E1 as said in the video. I love the advance games though, theyre so awesome and I ADORE the spritework in those games. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed!
haha loved the video also the fact you clearly just speak how you feel without being PC is refreshing bravo i'm subscribing and yes this game is re--tarded
I will never understand why they took a in development mobile sonic game and slapped the title Sonic 4 on the cover. Like bro if this was just called sonic moblie like it originally was we would be much better off lol
Sonic 4 is like if you tried to give Sonic Robo Blast momentum.
I like how that's completely wrong.
@@lightgivemepower6425 Actually, yes: Sonic Robo Blast is WAY better.
@@dragonick2947 wait were you talking about the first robo blast game or the second one?
@@lightgivemepower6425 The first one. The second one is entirely perfect.
@@dragonick2947 oh then you're correct
This game is proof that marketing matters.
Not that it would have been great as Sonic the Portable
Even the one up is reused from Sonic 3.
how did this game score an *EIGHT ON IGN.*
Fun fact the mobile ver looks much better than the console ver he doesn't look like plastic
Sonic 4 sucks more than u think
1. In the 90s sonic's songs were really popular but the songs in sonic 4's songs are really bad they successfully failed at seeing what made 90's sonic songs good
2. The level designing is terrible there are boosters every single place the speed doesn't feel any rewarding
3.the physics are broken it feels nothing you just have to spam the homming attack to win there it doesn't feel any rewarding
4.cutseans are stupid the animations suck on them therebwas no need for cutseans in the game they could atleast added bubble text but no its the cheapest sonic game you will see
100% with ya dude! I will say though that S4's OST is mainly bad due to the over use of synth to emulate the Genesis games, in my opinion, its actually quite good when instruments are used! If interested, check the description as Jun Senoue did a guitar cover of Splash Hill and it is AMAZING! Thanks for watching :)
Np!!