Miss America 1984 - In Context With Original Ads and News Clips After

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    Recorded live to tape, September 17th, 1983. Presented in context with ads for the purposes of historical preservation. It would seem whoever recorded it, also added a news clip that would air later about Vanessa Williams from Entertainment Tonight.
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  • @rubylewis865
    @rubylewis865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Greetings, debunkmates

    • @marieskis
      @marieskis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hey Ruby!

    • @katiethimons1220
      @katiethimons1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      "This is like when Hilary Swank won an oscar without thanking her stupid husband."

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      @jetis878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there!

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  • @sammavacaist
    @sammavacaist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I am so glad that Vanessa Williams kept all the hate mail and death threats she received for being the first black Miss America so she could print it years later in her autobiography.

  • @jeanineruby
    @jeanineruby ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My goodness - Vanessa Williams was SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL - and she still is.

  • @bryanedney2723
    @bryanedney2723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Before this year, there was never an African American crowned Miss America. Vanessa Williams broke the color barrier. No matter what they said about her to what they did to her, she's the most popular and most famous past winner...with the most "Kick A**" Story. Now she's married to a Gazillionaire!

    • @zachhoran
      @zachhoran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lee Meriwether, Bess Myerson, and Gretchen Carlson gained a bit of fame after being Miss America, also

    • @pika23
      @pika23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My mom swears if it was a white girl they wouldn't have said word one,and she'd have kept the crown

    • @shannonharrison9240
      @shannonharrison9240 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zachhoran nope. they arent household names.

    • @kellydixson9221
      @kellydixson9221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pika23 your mom is wrong

    • @renegaderunner332
      @renegaderunner332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Phyllis George did as well.

  • @Wonderhussy
    @Wonderhussy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazing to think Miss America was once disqualified for having nude faux-lesbian photos...meanwhile 30+
    years later, the first Lady of the USA had nude faux-lesbian photos! Reminds me of the Virginia Slims ad of the day..."You've come a long way, baby"

    • @chunk2596
      @chunk2596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! I agree with you......Those same "conservatives" headed to the polls and voted for a presidential candidate that sleeps with porn stars and supported a first lady that posed for countless nude racy photos!

    • @nadi1010
      @nadi1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She also didn’t consent to having them shared.

  • @DilAbadyi
    @DilAbadyi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm here to see the historic moment that Vanessa Williams-- the first black american crowned Miss America. Beautiful memory ❤️

  • @dbrown9495
    @dbrown9495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Quite a lovely pageant that year!!

  • @timothyleon558
    @timothyleon558 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    She may well have been the one Miss America who stood out from her peers more than any other. She was an overwhelming choice, and rightly so. Judgment itself is such nasty thing, and humans do it so well.

  • @radiolusitanabermuda70
    @radiolusitanabermuda70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Favourite Miss America Proud of you Vanessa Williams

  • @williammaddox3547
    @williammaddox3547 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love Miss America 1984. I don't care that she posed nude. And apparently the Miss America Organization did not care either. The Miss America Organization apologize to her for any harm that the Miss America Organization had caused her and she is now known and will forever be Miss America 1984 and Miss New Jersey will always be the 1st runner up as it should be. Love you Vanessa Williams.

  • @hankrogers8431
    @hankrogers8431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *THANK YOU!*

  • @davidseay7790
    @davidseay7790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i met wanda gayle gettie when she was the maid of cotton whenn she was here in memphis1 she was so beautiful and delightfully personable she made you feel happy and at ease as soon as you met her

  • @randyseay3115
    @randyseay3115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To this day, Vanessa Williams and Suzette Charles (‘84) and Terry Muessen (‘73) are the best talent presentations in pageant history. They all sang Streisand.

  • @jonathangill6584
    @jonathangill6584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    How did they make a group of 17-25 yr olds look 40-55?

  • @BigGene
    @BigGene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Vanessa should have won, but Suzette was the BEST pop singer ever on the Miss A stage. I was there and, at rehearsal when Suzette sang, a very inattentive audience was stunned.

  • @malcolmmarshall5946
    @malcolmmarshall5946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miss Missouri went on to Miss USA 1986 but didn't place.

  • @user-hx7mi7ml8u
    @user-hx7mi7ml8u ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so goofy compared to today. 😂

  • @paengs.delrosario7804
    @paengs.delrosario7804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Most beautiful and talented batch. Almost all the top 10 could have done very well at Miss USA.

    • @timothywilliams9642
      @timothywilliams9642 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pamela Rigas (OH) represented AL at Miss USA 1980 and got 3rd Runner Up. Barbara Webster (MO) did compete at Miss USA but did not place.

  • @nadi1010
    @nadi1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn…miss Alabama can play that piano!!

  • @VTMCompany
    @VTMCompany 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    9:27 Three title holders in a row: Miss New Jersey (Miss America 1984); Miss New Mexico (Miss USA 1984); Miss New York (Miss America 1984).

    • @emmarose4234
      @emmarose4234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THAT’S MAI SHANLEY?! 😭

  • @emmarose4234
    @emmarose4234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Awww, Tawny Godin missed her plane. 🙁

    • @liamh6862
      @liamh6862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol......

    • @forestine_
      @forestine_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They couldn't even do a voiceover of what she's doing now! They must have been pissed 😆

  • @jaradaniels9289
    @jaradaniels9289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Vanessa is the only miss America that actually kept herself going after the pageant. She should not have lost her crown.

    • @jeanineruby
      @jeanineruby ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vanessa Williams has a very very successful acting and singing career she wouldn't have otherwise had - even though they took her crown away - she will always be a queen

    • @malcolmmarshall5946
      @malcolmmarshall5946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phyllis George did pretty good too

  • @mk202
    @mk202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    GO FOR IT...!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

  • @vashtikelly6837
    @vashtikelly6837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    im so glad nessa showed all them she is a real winner!!!!!

    • @vashtikelly6837
      @vashtikelly6837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      STRATOSPHERE THANKS OR YOUR HEART....PLEASE POST MORE 80S NESSA...OR ANYTHING YOU GOT 80S....VANITY/PRINCE/VANESSA....ANY 80S

  • @bootheduke
    @bootheduke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good lord...was the theme 'My Mother's Closet' ?

  • @malcolmmarshall5946
    @malcolmmarshall5946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember reading that Miss New York was the favorite to win.

  • @VTMCompany
    @VTMCompany 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:12:37 It's a shame Miss Ohio, later 4th runner-up, (and also a former Miss Alabama and 3rd runner-up to Miss USA 1980) had to be burdened with a cord microphone. The next year, contestants were able to use newer technology that saw the mic cord gone.

    • @danielhauser1115
      @danielhauser1115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It wouldn't have mattered. That talent was dreadful. Kimberly Boyce should have been in the top 5.

  • @jeanineruby
    @jeanineruby ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yep - Miss Williams really had "IT" soooo much more than the other girls

  • @anjolalayeni5503
    @anjolalayeni5503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    38:24 is so creepy 😭 like these are siblingssss

  • @zachhoran
    @zachhoran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    9/17/1983 is the airdate of this pageant

  • @reprolover11
    @reprolover11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The three woman debate was very interesting to me and shows how far society has come. I must say I didn't really get a sense of sisterhood from what I saw from the former miss americas. Both suzette and tawny were very cut throat. Although I did read somewhere that lee meriwether sent Vanessa an encouraging letter after he scandal

    • @lexlib
      @lexlib 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember seeing a clip of tawny calling vanessa out.

    • @liamh6862
      @liamh6862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lee Meriwether is a sweetheart.

    • @johnorlando9839
      @johnorlando9839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting since Tawny was also considered controversial with her views on abortion and Marijuana.

    • @johnorlando9839
      @johnorlando9839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@liamh6862 Yes, you could see it that Lee was genuinely happy for Vanessa. Just watch the way she looks at her when congratulating.

    • @Harringtonml54
      @Harringtonml54 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liamh6862 Indeed, she is. I met her when I attended the pageant in 1978 (a friend was Miss Massachusetts) and she could not have been more pleasant, accessible, sincere, and lovely. She was also the thinnest woman I had ever seen!

  • @somewereinwisconsin
    @somewereinwisconsin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Classy!! Bring it back!!

  • @HectorRojas-he8g
    @HectorRojas-he8g 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW,esa mujer es bellísima

  • @dallastucker2404
    @dallastucker2404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miss Mississippi should have placed higher, imo, she had a awesome talent and swimsuit. Better than SC for sure.

  • @johnorlando9839
    @johnorlando9839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pamela Rigas had the unfortunate opportunity to compete against two juggernauts: Shawn Weatherly and Vanessa Williams.

    • @gwp5066
      @gwp5066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the nose and chin job didn't improve her placement.

    • @johnorlando9839
      @johnorlando9839 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, at MUSA, when she was called 3RU, several contestants in the back turned their heads to each other in surprise.

  • @jeromejackson6111
    @jeromejackson6111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never realized how much Suzette Charles looks alot like Halle Berry.

  • @crowleytancioco4620
    @crowleytancioco4620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, Lee Meriwether is stunning.

  • @charlesfranklinlambeth3944
    @charlesfranklinlambeth3944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting clips...thanks for including the Nightline interviews. Whoever thought that nearly 40 years after the fact, the woman from Penthouse would be making more sense than Tawny and the “feminist”?! The true irony here is that Tawny probably regrets the comments she made at this time as much as Vanessa regrets posing for the pictures she did at that time. As history showed us, the pictures may have indeed made Vanessa more famous than she ever would have been as simply the first Black Miss America...and perhaps the MA pageant proved to be the most infamous party involved by forcing her to resign.

    • @Chicoandtheman
      @Chicoandtheman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always wondered how Tawny feels about her comments today. Both Tawny and the feminist woman (but mostly Tawny) seemed so archaic in their thinking. The Penthouse woman was spot on, maybe not at that time, but at the end of the day...she was correct and probably was more a feminist than all of them.

    • @gwp5066
      @gwp5066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chicoandtheman Tawny's comment didn't even make sense. These former Miss America's love having a microphone in front of them.

    • @bryanedney2723
      @bryanedney2723 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good points. Like say all the time, "Tawny WHO?"

  • @tapiokatajisto9566
    @tapiokatajisto9566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am sorry to say this but this is not a beauty pageant (doesn't MAO also admit this?). There are some beauties but some of the contestants look older than my mother and mind you my mother was a model in her youth. Vanessa Williams is a beauty though and I love her.

  • @kserial8491
    @kserial8491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where you found those old show?

  • @jonldavis
    @jonldavis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice words saying it was stripped from her

  • @JohnSmith-zr1pi
    @JohnSmith-zr1pi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow

  • @gwp5066
    @gwp5066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if the first 9 called were thinking and hoping....maybe, maybe...that beautiful and talented woman from NY won't make the Top 10.

  • @charleswilliamsjr2095
    @charleswilliamsjr2095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vanessa Williams gave up the 👑 when Suzette Charles won the new miss america and also Vanessa Williams wore a white Swimsuit And clear heels later she was posing in the magazine!

  • @tarakelly8640
    @tarakelly8640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why does almost everyone want to be in broadcasting or marketing

    • @sammavacaist
      @sammavacaist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was where the money was in those days.

  • @cloudanimal5209
    @cloudanimal5209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:01:28 winner

  • @greenlantern9577
    @greenlantern9577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are they robots?
    No nice elegant sophisticated walks with attitude

  • @cloudanimal5209
    @cloudanimal5209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:44:38 Vanessa Williams on education and also walking in a swimsuit

    • @gwp5066
      @gwp5066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      those interview segments are taken out of context because Vanessa's comment doesn't. quite. make sense. And, geez, Suzette actually used the phrase "world. peace." And Missouri...ugh.

  • @sophiaglover5589
    @sophiaglover5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are all the lesbians?

    • @dannycarrington1601
      @dannycarrington1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trelynda Kerr, Miss Oklahoma, later came out and is married to a woman.

  • @user-hr6li9nu7y
    @user-hr6li9nu7y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The year the pageant died.