Harris what camera do you use for your streams? If it’s the Sony A7s III how do you power your camera while streaming? Looking for a more indefinite power solution.
Hardware wise, there are components designed to shoot & store data on onboard devices, channel output to HDMI..... but there is nothing on DSLRs that could compress a video to 1080p60 signal over USB. That's where CamLink plays its role.
Yep, and the camera’s physical wifi system for doing it is limited to a very low bitrate, so it’s either uncompressed OR smooth, you can’t have both. Ideally we’d see in the future, them use WiFi 6 or something else that’s very fast so we can have useable footage without a capture card, but these were all designed before everyone needed a camera for conference calls
Classic case of corporations just trying to be “first to market” without care for quality control. They’re just trying to take away market share away from competitors and have bragging rights to “we did it first” smh they need to grow up.
The Canon and Sony use USB 2, which has a relatively low bandwidth. That bandwidth is equal to 576p at 20-30 FPS uncompressed. So what’s happening isn’t a software issue, but a hardware limit.
I've had the same - I've using an EOS M50 (Mark 1), and I've had no problems with the quality. I'm shocked at the difference in quality Harris is seeing with an EOS R.
How many other people are using actual cameras and not their laptop webcams or some equivalent? The Canon will still look way better in such an instance, it just won't be 1080p 60fps.
I connect my Lumix G7 via Camlink. Never tried a dedicated Panasonic utility honestly. And I too have to go back and refer to some of my own videos to remember how I did something. lol.
Canon R5 gives a solid 30fps with the webcam utility. So does the Canon M50, which I also have. None of them will do 60fps. The Canon EOSR doesn't have a fast enough USB transfer to do 60fps. The cable must be USB-C, and your computer must have a high speed USB port as well in order to get the full benefit, so your pc specs matter as well, and connecting it to the right port.
I use the canon software with a t7i, the only problem i have had so far if if i peave the camera on after a stream it wony automatically turn back on next time. I have to turn the camera off, then back on. Its only a few seconds, and it is because of a safety feature for the camera. What issues have you hqd with their software?
I use the canon software with my SL2 and works great for my needs. I get really good resolution. Biggest gripe is there’s a slight lag. I can go the capture card route but the SL2 doesn’t have a clean HDMI output so I’d have to manually focus and stay there
I got better results with my 6D Mark II recently-I’m stuck with the EOS utility because this camera doesn’t have a clean HDMI output and I don’t want to install Magic Lantern. Still preferable to using my iPhone with OBS ninja, which is what I was doing before (not terrible, frankly).
honestly any camera is good for streaming. I say that because when you're streaming your stream is compressed so the resolution and quality goes down. so it's not like you're going to see the quality if a 2000$ camera, or even a 1000$ camera. In my opinion i think the canon m50 is amazing for streaming. it has everything you want and it's a great camera for non stream use. so the money you put in it is actually useful. but if it's just streaming i think any camera should be good. webcams usually are bad....but actual cameras should be fine regardless of what you use. not only that but cameras like m50 has face tracking. if a camera has face tracking that's pretty much all you need for streaming. you can get the canon m50 for about 500$ on ebay sometimes
I agree with @VoidBoi I just bought the a6400 myself (I stream univ. courses and will be filming videos to pre-post on TH-cam for my classes, and didn't have a webcam at all, so dove deep and got the a6400 and took the time to learn about photography + recording/editing/etc. and am SUPER happy with the purchase, I'm currently using the software solution and will get camlink in near future)
Depends on what kind of Smartphone you have. There's apps out there that'll turn your smartphone into a high def webcam. Easy to set up and control. Will also keep you under $10 cost-wise.
I used both the Canon, and Fuji Apps for quite a long time. I think the major limitation is the bandwidth on USB-2. I think a big thing that can help is making sure you're following the 180 shutter rule when you set the FPS. While the resolution on the canon was just as low (first a 6D Mk1, then an EOS R), My frames didn't look as choppy. At least I don't Remember. Fuji's webcam app (used with an XT-4) was a whole pain in the ass to setup, but it eventually was just plug and play. I chalk that up to largely user error, but then again, the app does not provide a lot of feedback if things are not syncing properly. Big benefit the Fuji has though, is it allows for USB charging while using the utility so you don't necessarily need any dummy batteries in the setup.
That 576p is rough. But I do have to say that the Canon Webcam Utility has been a lifesaver at times when I needed to use my camera unexpectedly and I was somewhere without my CamLink.
the sony zv 1 works well over usb, still looks better over camlink tho but some have argued that they it's still a massive improvement over a traditional webcam
I bought a Fujifilm X-T200 to start photography and also use it as a webcam because why not. Turned out the Fujifilm X Webcam Software does not support this model, but only the midrange and high-end models. So I started to use the cam with a CamLink and now a Y&H 1080p60 capture card from Amazon. (fun fact: it accepts 4K30 which is necessary as the X-T200 only allows for unlimited recording in 4K or in standby with way lower resolution.) When I was able to get a X-T30 for a good price, I tested it with the Webcam Software. Seems to be the same as with Sony and Canon: Resolution around 576p, framerate below 30fps (I guess around 20) and not all settings can be changed, but it is okay to use. But with constant 4K standby over HDMI from the X-T30 and the CamLink there is no way the Webcam Software could rival this.
I've been using the Canon Webcam utility with my (now ageing) 5D Mk II as my primary DJ stream camera as I don't have any video-centric cameras to use and it's been pretty great all around. Sometimes it has a weird issue with the aspect ratio going wonky and not staying at 1080p but for the most part it's allowed me to add another camera to my stream with zero additional costs
I don't know if this come from the EOS R or whatever , but I can do 50/60fps streaming with my Canon M50 no problem. I just had to make sure to get in manual video mode and dial in a shutter speed that was fitting the framerate (I use 50 frames per second (the grid is 50Hz in my country), so I dial in a 1/100th shutter speed : Shannon law respected, everything's fine and I get my full framerate and resolution). If you leave everyting to auto, the camera will work just like it does in photo mode, and will try to reduce the noise on the image by reducing the ISO, but by doing so, it reduces the shutter speed as well, getting low framerate, even if you set the 1080p60 mode in the quick menu I mean, the video feed I get through my little M50 looks miles better than the one you get out your EOS R, with a lot of lighting (a lot more than me), probably a wider lens as well. Maybe that's a EOS R issue, dunno by the way, Fuji is heavily phushing their cameras for photography and a bit of film making with features like IBIS, grading profiles etc. Their marketing does not show a lot of focus on the streaming market like Canon or Sony showed lately
I have a GoPro Hero7 as my main camera, Kinect 2.0 for super wide angle shots in my room, and 2 Logitech C920s for different angles. Biggest downfall of the GoPro is how dark it comes out. You can only adjust so much in software until adding more lighting makes the shot better. Then when I add more lighting, all the other cameras I’m using get washed out… working on a button on my stream deck that automatically adjust my lighting depending on which camera I’m using.
I use the Canon EOS M50 Mark ii. I don't use it as a webcam because I don't stream. I do podcasts and it works great if the lighting is setup correctly. The whole important thing to remember is lighting. If you can get the lighting correct, you can enhance the picture. I also use a $30 cam link that works perfect for what I'm trying to do.
Edit after looking into it - I use my Canon RP via the utility at 576p 50 fps and it looks great as OBS will upscale it. Not true 1080p but it's WAY better than what you're showing here for some reason.
Hi, my camera is canon m50 + Elgato Cam Link 4K - it overheats and turns off after 2 hours of stream. Apparently this camera is not suitable for long streams. Which camera to buy to avoid overheating?
I've had so many connection issues with the sony software. Using the Camlink is MUCH better, but the HDMI ports on sony dont charge the batteries like the usb ports do. Do folks use dummie/AC batteries when streaming with camlinks?
For sony camera's i think you don't need the webcam utility app, "I think" that they have another app to preview the video of the camera, use that for OBS and crop out the frame should give a better result than the utility app, again, I'm not sure
Yeah I think I saw a video about that a year or two ago. If anyone remembers please drop the link. Is it on elgato's channel? Those guys are pretty good.
Soo I have a Canon 60D using the webcam utility software and I must say, my image quality looks pretty good. I also notice that it REALLY matters what settings you set your camera before connecting it to the USB cable
I don’t think my cam link works properly because I plug my Sony A7iii into a cam link then into my computer and it runs just like the Sony app and not the camlink is there a way I can fix that?
I bought a Panasonic Lumix FZ300 to use for hiking before my son talked about wanting to get into game streaming. I have an Elgato CamLink and other than questionable low-light performance of the camera, it seems to be acceptable. The 4K Capture Utility detects the incoming signal as 1080p59. Within that application, I do see some motion tearing, but when recording video with OBS and playing it back, it looks fine. I've not put great effort to get video to output over USB. I have my doubts as to whether it's even possible. Neither I, nor he, will be presenting full-frame video with the camera, but will will be using it for a PIP overlay, so it's debatable whether 1080p would even be necessary, unless we're publishing 4K content.
How do you by pass the 30 minutes sleep mode of the canon DSLR, I have a Canon EOSr 90D and every 30 minutes I need to turn off and turn on to be able to stream? any solutions?
I use a Nikon D3200, with the firmware hack for more than 15 minutes of live view. Still turns off and is quite hot after a while (averaging about 45 mins to an hour and 15 minutes). I use this since this is the one I have, not sure yet when I'll get another camera. Is there any way to get more performance and live view (possibly longer times?) out of this thing without breaking it?
seems more there is something wrong with your setup for the utility link. Seen people using a canon 600D with micro USB and the utility software and doesn't have as much lag as you do with the EOS R. of maybe because the 600D is older and less output and thusfor runs smoother?
I could not get the Canon software to work with my 6d or 5d on my Mac, my friend coudln't get it to work on his Canon and Mac setup either. Worked fine on Windows though. Also I couldn't get the Elgato CamLink to work on my Mac either. tough times :(
I shoot professionally on a Panasonic S1. And it has been a mixed bag for me. For starters, It's great for video, v-log, full frame 4k up to 30fps and APS-C Crop for 4k60 (Which EOS R and A7iii didn't do at the time) has been great. Also Panasonic has been awesome about supporting the camera over time. A few months ago they had a firmware patch that added a bunch of recording options. Cinema 4k (4096x2160), 1080p at up to 180fps, and hell, they even added 6k recording. All from a firmware patch. But there is the elephant in the room, contrast based auto focus. Anything in remotely low lighting makes AF borderline useless, and even when it does work, it can be slow, which makes still shooting really difficult sometimes. I mostly shoot on cine lenses or with no AF for this reason, but I definitely wish I had better AF. I'm on the fence on if I should swap to Canon or Sony, but it's still a really awesome camera. If you are looking to do solely video and you like being on manual focus, definitely a buy imo. But if sometimes you want to turn your brain off for casual shoots or do a lot of photography, I'd say stick to other brands.
I bought the camlink for my nikon d3500 and I have 1 problem with the camlink and one of them is that when I have my camera connected to the obs, after 15 seconds it looks like a ghosting that the image is out of sync at certain points and then that My cam turns off after 30 min and I have to be touching the cam so that it does not turn off
As you asked: 1) I am one of the "last mohicans" using Fujifilm... in deed mainly for photography and just for special streams. For my daily video-conferences in my main job the brio is more, than good enough. Fujifilm also came out with a USB-Solution - my X-T3 (not even the latest model) is pretty decent for video and has USB-C - but when I tested the USB-Betadriver found similar issues with
I tried using my Fujifilm X-T4 with their app and the quality seems to be MUCH MUCH better than the Canon and Sony ones you tried out. Camlink is still better for sure and offers more control, but Fuji's utility combined with X-T4 seems to be just fine (30fps 1080p without drops + Eterna LUT profile)
I have just ordered the usb and stand for my panasonic lumix then this video popped up. Should've known it wouldn't be so easy. Also does this increase cpu or ram by alot when using or the same as a stock webcam would?
I have the EOS R and use Camlink 4K. Tried the Canon utility but found the quality to be much lower than with the Camlink. I don’t stream but do a lot of Microsoft Teams meetings. Over the last 15 months I have done more than 400 video meetings so my equipment has changed a lot since the start of the pandemic. Had the Samyang 14 mm AF, but changed my setup so I now use a Canon 35MM. Super happy with the quality and easy of use. I love the EOS R, but really wish I could charge it with USB-C while using the camera. The original Canon “dummy battery” is stupidly expensive. Would love to see you make a video more targeted at “business” use and not streaming, but I really appreciate your content.
I use a Lumix G7 (stock lense, Elgato Cam Link) for my for my videos and streams. I picked it in 2017 because it records 4k/30fps, which I like to use for video recording because I can punch in without loosing resolution (I upload in 1080p).
I finally saved enough for a cam but cant decide between the ZVE10 and the A6400. Id be using camlink. Which would you recommend? Or is there a better alternative? :)
Since it came out last year, I've been using my Canon 80D with the EOS Webcam Utility: - Every work day on macOS for meetings on Google Meet - Weekly on my Windows machine for virtual hangouts on Facebook or Discord - Anytime I'm Twitch streaming (which is very rare, unfortunately, but not because of any Canon issues) The only upgrades I've seen since Beta are stability and compatibility basically everywhere.
i use a cannon rebel t100, run through usb brought up on the cannon webcam utility and then i tirn off the focus square in the middle. put the utility full screen and then capture that woth usb and then crop it down. works kinda decent. definitely some choppy frames at time and the utility tur s off like every 30 minutes so i have to keep turning it back on. and yes i have a camlink but i cant use it for this camera because in camera i cant turn off all of the display stuff. so i have to use the utility thing because on there it gives me the choice to turn of all off but only in the utility.
What’s crazy is i was using the sony imaging one back during the holidays and got WAY more frame rate. I took a few months off and when i came back to streaming a week or two ago i noticed the frame rate was SO BAD. Consistent with the 13fps you show. I am using that $30 cheap card you talked about in an old video and its buttery smooth now. So weird that the software got so much worse
That's interesting. I've been using it consistently on my Mac with a Sony a5100 and have had no issues the entire time. I haven't updated it since I downloaded, though, which was back in April. Maybe an update messed something up?
i have a really big issue, i have my sony with capture card but the quality recording on obs is far, far away from the quality i get recording directly with the camera, i have ajusted all settings to max quality, you guys have this big of a loss as well?
Anyone know what might cause framerate issues on a CamLink? I have the Canon M50, and oddly enough, using the EOS Webcam Utility outputs a better framerate than the CamLink.
Lemme add here real quick for the Fuji gang, I use the XT-30 on occasion as a webcam and I get the full 1080p60 using just my USB cable. The software automatically starts when it recognizes the camera plugged in, but I've to dial in the settings on the camera first to get the exposure right. Other than that, no gripes!
I started with Canon M50 last year, and upgraded to Lumix GH5 this year. I'm a hobbyist that's just starting. No real plans to make it big. But I am working on moving from streaming to making actual content.
Do you have problems with the canon flicking off and then back on every 30 min? It’s super annoying when in the middle of your stream the video drops and all your viewers see is “EOS Webcam Utility” on a black screen.
My EOS R6 has a USB-C (3.1) which makes the webcam application pretty successful for the moments I chose to stream/vid call with it. The EOS R is limited by its own hardware but a capture card clearly fixes that. I'd be interested in your thoughts on it but also know that if someone is aiming to be a streamer only a professional level photography camera is probably not the route they would want to go until income from it can justify the thousands for the body and lens(es) for it. $50 for a simple cam and $50 for clever lighting would work just as well to get the ball rolling.
I have a panasonic lumix dmc-g1 and i cant figure out how to use it as a webcam and if i did how to keeo it charged when in use. It was a hand me down from a family member
I heard that with the camlink (only way to get true 60 fps apparently), you can only get manual focus on and not auto focus, is that correct ? Because it would be one heck of a downside
I use the A5100 for my streams and the quality is actually not that bad considering I'm using a usb cable and a $400 camera, the worst part about the Imaging Edge software is the latency, its pretty much unusable.
The USB port is not fit to transmit the high bitrate I suppose. If I want a decent video signal out of my Nikon Z6, I use the HDMI port. Just checked on the Nikon homepage - streaming via the HDMI port is indeed possible using a third party capture device. Probably the same for Sony and Canon.
Also, one thing to note is that GoPro uses network for the transmission. Tried using it as a webcam on my work PC to have better quality, bit it was not friendly with the company VPN! Not an issue for most people, but for some it just wont be able so send the image! :)
I was doing this setup yesterday and used my gopro 7 black as my webcam. You can take the delay away by switching off stabilization. I haven't been able to get the quality to be better yet. I'm pulling data over a cheap capture card and I'm not sure if it's the camera or capture card to blame.
I was planning to pick up a GoPro Hero9 to use as my stream camera via the USB utility. Based on this video, I’m looking at other options now. Thank you for putting this together Harris!
6:50 - im so confused as to why harris is expecting so much from these webcam utilities. he already said in the beginning that they were probably usb 2 speeds, he already has his answer for why the resolution is 576p, why they drop frames and have bad framerates... the usb 2 bandwidth isnt wide enough to be able to handle a 720p resolution at a constant 30 fps, and the signal from the camera cannot send a continuous stream of 30 or 60 fps because the maximum bandwidth isn't constant, it's peak throughput...
I literally just started streaming, still trying to work out the kinks. I just used the webcam on my laptop the first time and it was..okay...but I have a Canon Rebel t5 DSLR, do you think that would work similarly to the Canon you talked about?
I see a lot now craft/hobby streamers us Sony A6000. It looks nice but its not cheap and I hear it can over heat. I use a Logitech c922. Is there and between the 2 that has a good auto focus?
I just set my Fujifilm X-T200 to webcam mode in settings (rather than mass storage mode) and it just pops up as any normal webcam would when you plug in the USB cable. Some of their older cameras require a driver install though
Love the format look and feel of this video if that makes sense the bouncy music in the background keeps it entertaining while informative and even though your in a incomplete room during the sponser ad thing or using it as a back drop it’s still nice
I used the gopro over usb-c for about a week before saying "no way" and getting a camlink to use with my sony zv-1. the gopro software would cause flickering occasionally, the compression was distracting, and the audio sync (although fixable) was not helping. I DO like that you could swap between views though wide angle vs linear etc.
I use a canon 250d and I genuinely get a good quality feed with the EOS utility? 50fps 1080p completely fine, I don't see how you're having the issues you are!
I use an elgato streamlink with a Lumix GH4, metabones speed adaptor, and sigma 10-35 lens. Image quality is phenomenal. Truly. 10/10. Auto focus? Problems. Despite having the speed adaptor and the lens is powered, so it can automatically move the lens, the auto focus will lock onto any mic in frame, and occasionally just something in the background as well. Not sure how to fix that, but I'm happy "enough" with it, it's an annoyance say, once every 3 streams when it REALLY tries to focus on something crazy, but I can turn off zoom and add more light, get a better depth of field, I'm just an amateur though so like.... requires some tweaking. Not gonna lie, it does make a strong argument for sony with their much better autofocus for amateur streaming, I haven't tried one, but I hear good things. I would bet the lumix has better picture quality in this setup than almost anything, but if it's blurry, well that doesn't mean much. It would be interesting to see a stand off between canon / sony / panasonic / fuji film in this regard, and just borrow people's setups to do it.
That's interesting you're having issues with the A7S3. I use the A5100 (and Sigma 16 1.4) and get a SOLID 720p/24 or 720p/30 feed through the Imaging Edge webcam utility into OBS - and it's using Micro USB and USB 2.0 lol. I have full control over manual ISO, aperture, and shutter speed when hooked up through USB as well. No limitations for my purposes while streaming. My face cam isn't usually covering the entire stream canvas anyway.
I still use the beta version of the Canon and it looks better than the update I do have a cam link and I can't fully use it on my Canon because every 30 mins is turns off. Maybe you know how to fix that?
I use my Canon 6D with the EOS Utility and have zero frame drops but there is a delay introduced while sending the video feed through USB. Using a capture card will be better, but for now the image quality is outstanding and way better than any webcam I used before.
I had a HD60S laying around for console streams that never happened, use that for my camera and it works fine! Could anyone tell me if theres any difference between an HD60s and camlink? Not sure what the resolutions are but does it matter if streaming on twitch maxes out on 1080, and i downscale to 720 for viewer ease
I've used my Nikon D7100 on stream with a capture card and it actually works pretty well. I've done some close up work with a macro lens along with a 17-50mm zoom lens and the quality is really nice. Only thing is the camera can overheat every now and again since it's not built for long-form content but for short reviews or little segments it works well.
I run a Canon M200 with a $20 hdmi capture card (...so no you don't need to spend heaps on a capture card) and comes up looking super crisp. I ended going down this route as the EOS software had compatibility issues with MS teams (issues Canon even stated on their website) which we use for work.
I use an Olympus OM-D E-m10 MkII; Unlike the MkIII which has USB-C charging and I believe is compatible with Olympus' webcam software, the OM-D cameras have an interesting feature where they can actually go clean feed even though the cameras are not listed as clean feed capable cameras. If you hold the info button when plugged in via microHDMI it kills the feed for half a second then outputs a full clean feed over HDMI, keeping the display on the camera's mirrorless display. Definitely a slept on cheaper mirrorless camera.
I used a Nikon d5300 with a cheap hdmi-usb card. it was amazing quality, but I couldn't get pass the 30min limit. Also when summer came, it was overheating. So I reverted to my c270 webcam... not great, but it's plug and play, no mess.
For me it did help a lot, cause i gave up on using my Canon PowerShot SX60 HS as a webcam cause their software doesn't support that camera, but when you talked about using the camlink, it gave me hope that i could still use it for my streams. Thanks for the tips!
I use a Nikon D5300 that I got for actual pictures as my main stream cam. I spent ages trying to get it working (thankfully there was finally a firmware put out to fix the timeout). I ended up getting a Live Gamer DUO before Nikon released their software. I am half tempted to give it a try, but at this point I'm not sure why I'd bother. The other thing to note about Nikon is the super small list of supported cameras. I'm honestly surprised mine is on that list.
I’m using a Sony A5100 with stock lenses off Craigslist for 200 then a 20 dollar Amazon capture card (1080 at 60fps) and works straight buttery. Adjust exposure, white balance and ISO and you got a crissssp picture.
Last February I bought the Sigma FP. It can be used without additional software as a webcam but is limited to 1080p and 24 Frames and has a small delay. Because I do not stream and video conferences are rare, I was surprised that this was apparently no default feature for modern cameras.
One of the reasons "it can't output native" is that most of the USB ports are in 2.0, only recently, camera manufacturers are starting to move to 3.1. With USB 2.0 (~57MB/s at most), the video needs to be compressed, and the processors in the camera just aren't designed for this type of applications. If you take a relatively modern android phone with USB3.0 or above, enable debug over USB, you will be able to output next to native quality from the phone's camera. Most of the phones have the necessary encoding feature and computing power for acting as a webcam. (given they don't overheat)
Meanwhile Insta360 pulled the webcam thing during the pandemic without any additional software on the One R with crisp ultrawide 1080p30 with the 4k lens. You should check that camera, it even has some fun uses with the 360 where it outputs the front and back in a super stretched format.
Great reviews. I use an OLD NIKON D5100 and works like a beast... I had to hack it thou because it goes off after 20min if not, and is not possible to clear the screen when connected to the Camlink, but after hacking, BOOM, works beautiful.
I was using a Canon M200 when lockdown started, with their beta software, as a webcam. It works and looks good from my experience, but ultimately I just gave up and defaulted to getting a Logitech streamcam instead. I just got tired of using a dummy battery to power it, installing beta software onto a work or personal laptop, or using a capture card (which needs drivers). The webcam is plug-and-play and simply works on every device I have with no hassle. Especially if a work laptop is locked down to installing software.
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My camera I haven't upgraded from yet is a Nikon D3100, maybe this holiday season I'll get something newer.
Hey Harris, what camera did you film this on?
Harris what camera do you use for your streams? If it’s the Sony A7s III how do you power your camera while streaming? Looking for a more indefinite power solution.
They can't really improve it from the software side. They're using the photo tethering preview, which was never meant for smooth video streaming
I still think the canon software needs a little bit of improvement, but it's good for what its worth
They can't really improve it from the software side. They're using the photo tethering preview, which was never meant for smooth video streaming
Epos, that makes sense, thank you.
Hardware wise, there are components designed to shoot & store data on onboard devices, channel output to HDMI..... but there is nothing on DSLRs that could compress a video to 1080p60 signal over USB. That's where CamLink plays its role.
Before any of these utilities were a thing, I used to screen cap my canon 6D photo preview to use it as my stream camera.
Yep, and the camera’s physical wifi system for doing it is limited to a very low bitrate, so it’s either uncompressed OR smooth, you can’t have both.
Ideally we’d see in the future, them use WiFi 6 or something else that’s very fast so we can have useable footage without a capture card, but these were all designed before everyone needed a camera for conference calls
Classic case of corporations just trying to be “first to market” without care for quality control. They’re just trying to take away market share away from competitors and have bragging rights to “we did it first” smh they need to grow up.
The GoPro delay is due to the fact that you have “hyper smooth stabilization” on. If you were to turn it off, then there would be no delay.
Omg ty been try to figure that out
can second this
Does this work with all gopros? Hero 8 black?
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I figured this out on my own and felt super dumb xD
The Canon and Sony use USB 2, which has a relatively low bandwidth. That bandwidth is equal to 576p at 20-30 FPS uncompressed. So what’s happening isn’t a software issue, but a hardware limit.
And 576p is also the resolution of regular PAL SD video.
That's what I suspected. They need USB3
This is false as I'm able to get 1080p 60 out of my Canon EOS M50 over micro USB using Sparkocam.
@@adamthompson2098 I use SparkoCam with my Nikon D5100 and get 1080@30. Looks pretty good.
@@adamthompson2098 ok but how am i supposed to stream with such a limited software... I wish i could do the same with obs
The Canon utility works great for me. I have a never ending series of compliments about my video quality on Zoom...
Same! I think this may be because of OBS specifically.
I've had the same - I've using an EOS M50 (Mark 1), and I've had no problems with the quality. I'm shocked at the difference in quality Harris is seeing with an EOS R.
@@cynicaloutlook same here. Got mine in early June when i couldn't find a webcam anywhere not marked up at least double...
How many other people are using actual cameras and not their laptop webcams or some equivalent? The Canon will still look way better in such an instance, it just won't be 1080p 60fps.
I got a Z Cam cinema camera & you can livestream right over ethernet! Far better than dealing with the Canon Webcam utility! I highly recommend.
I connect my Lumix G7 via Camlink. Never tried a dedicated Panasonic utility honestly.
And I too have to go back and refer to some of my own videos to remember how I did something. lol.
The G7 isn't compatible with their utility for streaming the image to the PC anyways. Just the higher model numbers
Canon R5 gives a solid 30fps with the webcam utility. So does the Canon M50, which I also have. None of them will do 60fps. The Canon EOSR doesn't have a fast enough USB transfer to do 60fps. The cable must be USB-C, and your computer must have a high speed USB port as well in order to get the full benefit, so your pc specs matter as well, and connecting it to the right port.
checkout Sparkocam. you'll get 1080 60p over your USB to your PC. and it has full camera controls over the software.
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I still think the canon software needs a little bit of improvement, but it's good for what its worth
I use the canon software with a t7i, the only problem i have had so far if if i peave the camera on after a stream it wony automatically turn back on next time. I have to turn the camera off, then back on. Its only a few seconds, and it is because of a safety feature for the camera.
What issues have you hqd with their software?
I use the canon software with my SL2 and works great for my needs. I get really good resolution. Biggest gripe is there’s a slight lag. I can go the capture card route but the SL2 doesn’t have a clean HDMI output so I’d have to manually focus and stay there
I got better results with my 6D Mark II recently-I’m stuck with the EOS utility because this camera doesn’t have a clean HDMI output and I don’t want to install Magic Lantern. Still preferable to using my iPhone with OBS ninja, which is what I was doing before (not terrible, frankly).
Same here! You can actually get Clean HDMI though, but only if you turn off auto focus. I use it with a BlueAVS capture card and it works great.
Thats really weird, I never had any of those issues with my Canon and EOS webcam utility. Makes me wonder if it's the EOS R.
Canon EOS t7. Same thing, smooth with app.
Canon EOS 6D. Smooth with great quality but a bit of lag so my voice is not in sync.
@@rayderrich Same here but I have the Mark II. No noticable delay though.
Same!!
@@thesqueaze6509 do you find that your camera dies quickly tho using it?
What camera is the best in your opinion for streaming?
Check out the Sony a6400 or one in that seires. Has clean HDMI. Flip up screen. Shouldn't overheat and doesn't have a shut off timer.
Oh also great face tracking.
honestly any camera is good for streaming. I say that because when you're streaming your stream is compressed so the resolution and quality goes down. so it's not like you're going to see the quality if a 2000$ camera, or even a 1000$ camera. In my opinion i think the canon m50 is amazing for streaming. it has everything you want and it's a great camera for non stream use. so the money you put in it is actually useful. but if it's just streaming i think any camera should be good. webcams usually are bad....but actual cameras should be fine regardless of what you use. not only that but cameras like m50 has face tracking. if a camera has face tracking that's pretty much all you need for streaming. you can get the canon m50 for about 500$ on ebay sometimes
I agree with @VoidBoi I just bought the a6400 myself (I stream univ. courses and will be filming videos to pre-post on TH-cam for my classes, and didn't have a webcam at all, so dove deep and got the a6400 and took the time to learn about photography + recording/editing/etc. and am SUPER happy with the purchase, I'm currently using the software solution and will get camlink in near future)
Depends on what kind of Smartphone you have. There's apps out there that'll turn your smartphone into a high def webcam. Easy to set up and control. Will also keep you under $10 cost-wise.
I used both the Canon, and Fuji Apps for quite a long time. I think the major limitation is the bandwidth on USB-2. I think a big thing that can help is making sure you're following the 180 shutter rule when you set the FPS. While the resolution on the canon was just as low (first a 6D Mk1, then an EOS R), My frames didn't look as choppy. At least I don't Remember.
Fuji's webcam app (used with an XT-4) was a whole pain in the ass to setup, but it eventually was just plug and play. I chalk that up to largely user error, but then again, the app does not provide a lot of feedback if things are not syncing properly. Big benefit the Fuji has though, is it allows for USB charging while using the utility so you don't necessarily need any dummy batteries in the setup.
That 576p is rough. But I do have to say that the Canon Webcam Utility has been a lifesaver at times when I needed to use my camera unexpectedly and I was somewhere without my CamLink.
I use EOS utility and mine does fantastic I don't know if alpha's was weird but don't freak out if you see this
Facts mine does 4K .. he probably didn't have the settings up
Agreed. My Canon is amazing for streaming.
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I wonder how the Sony ZV-1 is with direct connection to PC is. That was a big feature Sony talked about shortly after the ZV-1 released.
It works great and quality is still very nice. I have a Delgato cam link but haven't tried that yet
The difference from using a camlink w/ a ZV-1 and using their USB is actually not that different. I was surprised.
@@barndogsax5290 isn't the ZV-1 pushing out 720p over USB vs the camlink can do 1080P 60?
the sony zv 1 works well over usb, still looks better over camlink tho but some have argued that they it's still a massive improvement over a traditional webcam
I bought a Fujifilm X-T200 to start photography and also use it as a webcam because why not. Turned out the Fujifilm X Webcam Software does not support this model, but only the midrange and high-end models. So I started to use the cam with a CamLink and now a Y&H 1080p60 capture card from Amazon. (fun fact: it accepts 4K30 which is necessary as the X-T200 only allows for unlimited recording in 4K or in standby with way lower resolution.)
When I was able to get a X-T30 for a good price, I tested it with the Webcam Software. Seems to be the same as with Sony and Canon: Resolution around 576p, framerate below 30fps (I guess around 20) and not all settings can be changed, but it is okay to use.
But with constant 4K standby over HDMI from the X-T30 and the CamLink there is no way the Webcam Software could rival this.
I've been using the Canon Webcam utility with my (now ageing) 5D Mk II as my primary DJ stream camera as I don't have any video-centric cameras to use and it's been pretty great all around. Sometimes it has a weird issue with the aspect ratio going wonky and not staying at 1080p but for the most part it's allowed me to add another camera to my stream with zero additional costs
I had no idea that EOS Webcam Utility was so rough. My 80D honestly looks pretty slick through the webcam utility. The upgrade path is no joke though
It work well with my t7i for short time ,when it's longer than an hour,the software connection became unstable
I use a lumix g9, but it's plugged directly into a 4K aver media pro capture card.
I don't know if this come from the EOS R or whatever , but I can do 50/60fps streaming with my Canon M50 no problem.
I just had to make sure to get in manual video mode and dial in a shutter speed that was fitting the framerate (I use 50 frames per second (the grid is 50Hz in my country), so I dial in a 1/100th shutter speed : Shannon law respected, everything's fine and I get my full framerate and resolution). If you leave everyting to auto, the camera will work just like it does in photo mode, and will try to reduce the noise on the image by reducing the ISO, but by doing so, it reduces the shutter speed as well, getting low framerate, even if you set the 1080p60 mode in the quick menu
I mean, the video feed I get through my little M50 looks miles better than the one you get out your EOS R, with a lot of lighting (a lot more than me), probably a wider lens as well. Maybe that's a EOS R issue, dunno
by the way, Fuji is heavily phushing their cameras for photography and a bit of film making with features like IBIS, grading profiles etc. Their marketing does not show a lot of focus on the streaming market like Canon or Sony showed lately
I have a GoPro Hero7 as my main camera, Kinect 2.0 for super wide angle shots in my room, and 2 Logitech C920s for different angles. Biggest downfall of the GoPro is how dark it comes out. You can only adjust so much in software until adding more lighting makes the shot better. Then when I add more lighting, all the other cameras I’m using get washed out… working on a button on my stream deck that automatically adjust my lighting depending on which camera I’m using.
I use the Canon EOS M50 Mark ii. I don't use it as a webcam because I don't stream. I do podcasts and it works great if the lighting is setup correctly. The whole important thing to remember is lighting. If you can get the lighting correct, you can enhance the picture. I also use a $30 cam link that works perfect for what I'm trying to do.
Edit after looking into it - I use my Canon RP via the utility at 576p 50 fps and it looks great as OBS will upscale it. Not true 1080p but it's WAY better than what you're showing here for some reason.
Hey @alphagaming I had the same issue with eos app straight plug in but on the camera if you select 1080p 50fps it works great!
I have the canon m50 mk II
Im using the Sony EyeToy camera from Ps2. No kidding, its better than most integrated webcams over there
I use the ps3 eye lol
Hi, my camera is canon m50 + Elgato Cam Link 4K - it overheats and turns off after 2 hours of stream. Apparently this camera is not suitable for long streams. Which camera to buy to avoid overheating?
Do you just use the regular camera battery for each stream ?
Does the M50 work with the Cam Link? Cause it does not have clear HDMI output?
@@Aquamaui.mp4 yeah it does but your just going to have to use an adapter
Wow, good to know! I use the Canon m50 for TH-cam videos but Sonys for livestreaming.
@@countcolorsnotcalories thats cool .. I use the M50 for Both TH-cam and Livestreaming and it works great with the 4K Enabled
Thank god for a new Alpha Gaming video. I've literally been watching all the old ones over again
I do the same. Watch them all... wait a month or so and start over lol
I've had so many connection issues with the sony software. Using the Camlink is MUCH better, but the HDMI ports on sony dont charge the batteries like the usb ports do. Do folks use dummie/AC batteries when streaming with camlinks?
Can you not have both plugged in at the same time? Maybe turn off pc remote but keep USB mode on charging, that should work
For sony camera's i think you don't need the webcam utility app, "I think" that they have another app to preview the video of the camera, use that for OBS and crop out the frame should give a better result than the utility app, again, I'm not sure
Yeah I think I saw a video about that a year or two ago. If anyone remembers please drop the link. Is it on elgato's channel? Those guys are pretty good.
na its the same just without the camera controls :D
This video actually had an old harris and old alpha gaming feel to it.
Might be the audio
Because of the ring lights :)
I thought they repeated the sponsor owned dot tv
All it needed was hello my name is Harris and I'll be your stream doctor for an intro. Lol
4:38 left is cam link right?
I use EOS webcam utility and the biggest issue I have is when the camera goes to sleep, it almost rarely wakes back up and gives you an image again
luckily it doesn't do that while using the camera such as mid stream!
Soo I have a Canon 60D using the webcam utility software and I must say, my image quality looks pretty good. I also notice that it REALLY matters what settings you set your camera before connecting it to the USB cable
I don’t think my cam link works properly because I plug my Sony A7iii into a cam link then into my computer and it runs just like the Sony app and not the camlink is there a way I can fix that?
I bought a Panasonic Lumix FZ300 to use for hiking before my son talked about wanting to get into game streaming. I have an Elgato CamLink and other than questionable low-light performance of the camera, it seems to be acceptable. The 4K Capture Utility detects the incoming signal as 1080p59. Within that application, I do see some motion tearing, but when recording video with OBS and playing it back, it looks fine. I've not put great effort to get video to output over USB. I have my doubts as to whether it's even possible. Neither I, nor he, will be presenting full-frame video with the camera, but will will be using it for a PIP overlay, so it's debatable whether 1080p would even be necessary, unless we're publishing 4K content.
How do you by pass the 30 minutes sleep mode of the canon DSLR, I have a Canon EOSr 90D and every 30 minutes I need to turn off and turn on to be able to stream? any solutions?
I use a Nikon D3200, with the firmware hack for more than 15 minutes of live view. Still turns off and is quite hot after a while (averaging about 45 mins to an hour and 15 minutes).
I use this since this is the one I have, not sure yet when I'll get another camera.
Is there any way to get more performance and live view (possibly longer times?) out of this thing without breaking it?
seems more there is something wrong with your setup for the utility link. Seen people using a canon 600D with micro USB and the utility software and doesn't have as much lag as you do with the EOS R.
of maybe because the 600D is older and less output and thusfor runs smoother?
I could not get the Canon software to work with my 6d or 5d on my Mac, my friend coudln't get it to work on his Canon and Mac setup either. Worked fine on Windows though.
Also I couldn't get the Elgato CamLink to work on my Mac either. tough times :(
I shoot professionally on a Panasonic S1. And it has been a mixed bag for me. For starters, It's great for video, v-log, full frame 4k up to 30fps and APS-C Crop for 4k60 (Which EOS R and A7iii didn't do at the time) has been great. Also Panasonic has been awesome about supporting the camera over time. A few months ago they had a firmware patch that added a bunch of recording options. Cinema 4k (4096x2160), 1080p at up to 180fps, and hell, they even added 6k recording. All from a firmware patch. But there is the elephant in the room, contrast based auto focus. Anything in remotely low lighting makes AF borderline useless, and even when it does work, it can be slow, which makes still shooting really difficult sometimes. I mostly shoot on cine lenses or with no AF for this reason, but I definitely wish I had better AF. I'm on the fence on if I should swap to Canon or Sony, but it's still a really awesome camera. If you are looking to do solely video and you like being on manual focus, definitely a buy imo. But if sometimes you want to turn your brain off for casual shoots or do a lot of photography, I'd say stick to other brands.
I bought the camlink for my nikon d3500 and I have 1 problem with the camlink and one of them is that when I have my camera connected to the obs, after 15 seconds it looks like a ghosting that the image is out of sync at certain points and then that My cam turns off after 30 min and I have to be touching the cam so that it does not turn off
As you asked:
1) I am one of the "last mohicans" using Fujifilm... in deed mainly for photography and just for special streams. For my daily video-conferences in my main job the brio is more, than good enough. Fujifilm also came out with a USB-Solution - my X-T3 (not even the latest model) is pretty decent for video and has USB-C - but when I tested the USB-Betadriver found similar issues with
Harris Im a Makers and Crafting streaming and I use the c922 for my hands and want an upgrade but cant afford the a6000 any recommendations?
I tried using my Fujifilm X-T4 with their app and the quality seems to be MUCH MUCH better than the Canon and Sony ones you tried out. Camlink is still better for sure and offers more control, but Fuji's utility combined with X-T4 seems to be just fine (30fps 1080p without drops + Eterna LUT profile)
What types of extra control are we talking about?
I have just ordered the usb and stand for my panasonic lumix then this video popped up. Should've known it wouldn't be so easy. Also does this increase cpu or ram by alot when using or the same as a stock webcam would?
I have the EOS R and use Camlink 4K. Tried the Canon utility but found the quality to be much lower than with the Camlink. I don’t stream but do a lot of Microsoft Teams meetings. Over the last 15 months I have done more than 400 video meetings so my equipment has changed a lot since the start of the pandemic. Had the Samyang 14 mm AF, but changed my setup so I now use a Canon 35MM. Super happy with the quality and easy of use.
I love the EOS R, but really wish I could charge it with USB-C while using the camera. The original Canon “dummy battery” is stupidly expensive.
Would love to see you make a video more targeted at “business” use and not streaming, but I really appreciate your content.
I use a Lumix G7 (stock lense, Elgato Cam Link) for my for my videos and streams. I picked it in 2017 because it records 4k/30fps, which I like to use for video recording because I can punch in without loosing resolution (I upload in 1080p).
I finally saved enough for a cam but cant decide between the ZVE10 and the A6400. Id be using camlink. Which would you recommend? Or is there a better alternative? :)
Guys named Aaron after seeing their name pop up in a ad about passwords: Real shit? *nervous sweating*
The 576p isn't just a random resolution, it's the standard for standard definition PAL TV (TV in most places outside of America).
Since it came out last year, I've been using my Canon 80D with the EOS Webcam Utility:
- Every work day on macOS for meetings on Google Meet
- Weekly on my Windows machine for virtual hangouts on Facebook or Discord
- Anytime I'm Twitch streaming (which is very rare, unfortunately, but not because of any Canon issues)
The only upgrades I've seen since Beta are stability and compatibility basically everywhere.
i use a cannon rebel t100, run through usb brought up on the cannon webcam utility and then i tirn off the focus square in the middle. put the utility full screen and then capture that woth usb and then crop it down. works kinda decent.
definitely some choppy frames at time and the utility tur s off like every 30 minutes so i have to keep turning it back on. and yes i have a camlink but i cant use it for this camera because in camera i cant turn off all of the display stuff.
so i have to use the utility thing because on there it gives me the choice to turn of all off but only in the utility.
What’s crazy is i was using the sony imaging one back during the holidays and got WAY more frame rate. I took a few months off and when i came back to streaming a week or two ago i noticed the frame rate was SO BAD. Consistent with the 13fps you show. I am using that $30 cheap card you talked about in an old video and its buttery smooth now. So weird that the software got so much worse
That's interesting. I've been using it consistently on my Mac with a Sony a5100 and have had no issues the entire time. I haven't updated it since I downloaded, though, which was back in April. Maybe an update messed something up?
i have a really big issue, i have my sony with capture card but the quality recording on obs is far, far away from the quality i get recording directly with the camera, i have ajusted all settings to max quality, you guys have this big of a loss as well?
Anyone know what might cause framerate issues on a CamLink? I have the Canon M50, and oddly enough, using the EOS Webcam Utility outputs a better framerate than the CamLink.
Lemme add here real quick for the Fuji gang, I use the XT-30 on occasion as a webcam and I get the full 1080p60 using just my USB cable. The software automatically starts when it recognizes the camera plugged in, but I've to dial in the settings on the camera first to get the exposure right. Other than that, no gripes!
I started with Canon M50 last year, and upgraded to Lumix GH5 this year. I'm a hobbyist that's just starting. No real plans to make it big. But I am working on moving from streaming to making actual content.
Do you have problems with the canon flicking off and then back on every 30 min? It’s super annoying when in the middle of your stream the video drops and all your viewers see is “EOS Webcam Utility” on a black screen.
My EOS R6 has a USB-C (3.1) which makes the webcam application pretty successful for the moments I chose to stream/vid call with it. The EOS R is limited by its own hardware but a capture card clearly fixes that. I'd be interested in your thoughts on it but also know that if someone is aiming to be a streamer only a professional level photography camera is probably not the route they would want to go until income from it can justify the thousands for the body and lens(es) for it. $50 for a simple cam and $50 for clever lighting would work just as well to get the ball rolling.
I have a panasonic lumix dmc-g1 and i cant figure out how to use it as a webcam and if i did how to keeo it charged when in use. It was a hand me down from a family member
I heard that with the camlink (only way to get true 60 fps apparently), you can only get manual focus on and not auto focus, is that correct ? Because it would be one heck of a downside
I use the A5100 for my streams and the quality is actually not that bad considering I'm using a usb cable and a $400 camera, the worst part about the Imaging Edge software is the latency, its pretty much unusable.
The USB port is not fit to transmit the high bitrate I suppose. If I want a decent video signal out of my Nikon Z6, I use the HDMI port. Just checked on the Nikon homepage - streaming via the HDMI port is indeed possible using a third party capture device. Probably the same for Sony and Canon.
Also, one thing to note is that GoPro uses network for the transmission. Tried using it as a webcam on my work PC to have better quality, bit it was not friendly with the company VPN!
Not an issue for most people, but for some it just wont be able so send the image! :)
I was doing this setup yesterday and used my gopro 7 black as my webcam. You can take the delay away by switching off stabilization.
I haven't been able to get the quality to be better yet. I'm pulling data over a cheap capture card and I'm not sure if it's the camera or capture card to blame.
I was planning to pick up a GoPro Hero9 to use as my stream camera via the USB utility. Based on this video, I’m looking at other options now. Thank you for putting this together Harris!
I'm only able to use my GoPro 9 Black as a webcam through the software, but I can't get it to connect with the CamLink. Does anyone know why?
I still use the canon webcam utility cause I got an EOS M50 and didn’t know it didn’t have clean HDMI out
6:50 - im so confused as to why harris is expecting so much from these webcam utilities. he already said in the beginning that they were probably usb 2 speeds, he already has his answer for why the resolution is 576p, why they drop frames and have bad framerates...
the usb 2 bandwidth isnt wide enough to be able to handle a 720p resolution at a constant 30 fps, and the signal from the camera cannot send a continuous stream of 30 or 60 fps because the maximum bandwidth isn't constant, it's peak throughput...
Hi, is your camera overheating? Do you know DSLM cameras with active cooling? Is it better to buy a camcorder?
I literally just started streaming, still trying to work out the kinks. I just used the webcam on my laptop the first time and it was..okay...but I have a Canon Rebel t5 DSLR, do you think that would work similarly to the Canon you talked about?
Time for an update? I saw that my gopro webcam software had an update and Im interested in if there is a big difference?
I see a lot now craft/hobby streamers us Sony A6000. It looks nice but its not cheap and I hear it can over heat. I use a Logitech c922. Is there and between the 2 that has a good auto focus?
I just set my Fujifilm X-T200 to webcam mode in settings (rather than mass storage mode) and it just pops up as any normal webcam would when you plug in the USB cable. Some of their older cameras require a driver install though
Love the format look and feel of this video if that makes sense the bouncy music in the background keeps it entertaining while informative and even though your in a incomplete room during the sponser ad thing or using it as a back drop it’s still nice
I used the gopro over usb-c for about a week before saying "no way" and getting a camlink to use with my sony zv-1. the gopro software would cause flickering occasionally, the compression was distracting, and the audio sync (although fixable) was not helping. I DO like that you could swap between views though wide angle vs linear etc.
I use a canon 250d and I genuinely get a good quality feed with the EOS utility? 50fps 1080p completely fine, I don't see how you're having the issues you are!
I have an EOS R and my canon app looks identical to my Camlink, has to be something with your in camera settings.
I'm in the same boat, great quality, no need to upgrade!
I use an elgato streamlink with a Lumix GH4, metabones speed adaptor, and sigma 10-35 lens.
Image quality is phenomenal. Truly. 10/10.
Auto focus?
Problems. Despite having the speed adaptor and the lens is powered, so it can automatically move the lens, the auto focus will lock onto any mic in frame, and occasionally just something in the background as well. Not sure how to fix that, but I'm happy "enough" with it, it's an annoyance say, once every 3 streams when it REALLY tries to focus on something crazy, but I can turn off zoom and add more light, get a better depth of field, I'm just an amateur though so like.... requires some tweaking.
Not gonna lie, it does make a strong argument for sony with their much better autofocus for amateur streaming, I haven't tried one, but I hear good things. I would bet the lumix has better picture quality in this setup than almost anything, but if it's blurry, well that doesn't mean much.
It would be interesting to see a stand off between canon / sony / panasonic / fuji film in this regard, and just borrow people's setups to do it.
That's interesting you're having issues with the A7S3. I use the A5100 (and Sigma 16 1.4) and get a SOLID 720p/24 or 720p/30 feed through the Imaging Edge webcam utility into OBS - and it's using Micro USB and USB 2.0 lol.
I have full control over manual ISO, aperture, and shutter speed when hooked up through USB as well. No limitations for my purposes while streaming. My face cam isn't usually covering the entire stream canvas anyway.
I've used the Canon beta since August and it's been awesome, zero issues so far. I have a Canon 6D Mark ii.
I still use the beta version of the Canon and it looks better than the update
I do have a cam link and I can't fully use it on my Canon because every 30 mins is turns off. Maybe you know how to fix that?
I use my Canon 6D with the EOS Utility and have zero frame drops but there is a delay introduced while sending the video feed through USB. Using a capture card will be better, but for now the image quality is outstanding and way better than any webcam I used before.
i have a camlink but for some reason it wont work unless i get winzip apparently do i need this? [i have a canon m50] anyone able to help me out?
I had a HD60S laying around for console streams that never happened, use that for my camera and it works fine! Could anyone tell me if theres any difference between an HD60s and camlink? Not sure what the resolutions are but does it matter if streaming on twitch maxes out on 1080, and i downscale to 720 for viewer ease
I've used my Nikon D7100 on stream with a capture card and it actually works pretty well. I've done some close up work with a macro lens along with a 17-50mm zoom lens and the quality is really nice. Only thing is the camera can overheat every now and again since it's not built for long-form content but for short reviews or little segments it works well.
I run a Canon M200 with a $20 hdmi capture card (...so no you don't need to spend heaps on a capture card) and comes up looking super crisp. I ended going down this route as the EOS software had compatibility issues with MS teams (issues Canon even stated on their website) which we use for work.
I use an Olympus OM-D E-m10 MkII; Unlike the MkIII which has USB-C charging and I believe is compatible with Olympus' webcam software, the OM-D cameras have an interesting feature where they can actually go clean feed even though the cameras are not listed as clean feed capable cameras. If you hold the info button when plugged in via microHDMI it kills the feed for half a second then outputs a full clean feed over HDMI, keeping the display on the camera's mirrorless display. Definitely a slept on cheaper mirrorless camera.
I used a Nikon d5300 with a cheap hdmi-usb card. it was amazing quality, but I couldn't get pass the 30min limit.
Also when summer came, it was overheating.
So I reverted to my c270 webcam... not great, but it's plug and play, no mess.
For me it did help a lot, cause i gave up on using my Canon PowerShot SX60 HS as a webcam cause their software doesn't support that camera, but when you talked about using the camlink, it gave me hope that i could still use it for my streams. Thanks for the tips!
I use a Nikon D5300 that I got for actual pictures as my main stream cam. I spent ages trying to get it working (thankfully there was finally a firmware put out to fix the timeout). I ended up getting a Live Gamer DUO before Nikon released their software. I am half tempted to give it a try, but at this point I'm not sure why I'd bother.
The other thing to note about Nikon is the super small list of supported cameras. I'm honestly surprised mine is on that list.
I’m using a Sony A5100 with stock lenses off Craigslist for 200 then a 20 dollar Amazon capture card (1080 at 60fps) and works straight buttery. Adjust exposure, white balance and ISO and you got a crissssp picture.
Last February I bought the Sigma FP. It can be used without additional software as a webcam but is limited to 1080p and 24 Frames and has a small delay. Because I do not stream and video conferences are rare, I was surprised that this was apparently no default feature for modern cameras.
One of the reasons "it can't output native" is that most of the USB ports are in 2.0, only recently, camera manufacturers are starting to move to 3.1. With USB 2.0 (~57MB/s at most), the video needs to be compressed, and the processors in the camera just aren't designed for this type of applications. If you take a relatively modern android phone with USB3.0 or above, enable debug over USB, you will be able to output next to native quality from the phone's camera. Most of the phones have the necessary encoding feature and computing power for acting as a webcam. (given they don't overheat)
I use a canon rp with no cam link and I get 1080 60 easily
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Meanwhile Insta360 pulled the webcam thing during the pandemic without any additional software on the One R with crisp ultrawide 1080p30 with the 4k lens. You should check that camera, it even has some fun uses with the 360 where it outputs the front and back in a super stretched format.
Great reviews. I use an OLD NIKON D5100 and works like a beast... I had to hack it thou because it goes off after 20min if not, and is not possible to clear the screen when connected to the Camlink, but after hacking, BOOM, works beautiful.
I was using a Canon M200 when lockdown started, with their beta software, as a webcam. It works and looks good from my experience, but ultimately I just gave up and defaulted to getting a Logitech streamcam instead. I just got tired of using a dummy battery to power it, installing beta software onto a work or personal laptop, or using a capture card (which needs drivers). The webcam is plug-and-play and simply works on every device I have with no hassle. Especially if a work laptop is locked down to installing software.