Being an elderly chap when I got the BB58 it was like getting a birth year piece that hasn't missed a beat and had a bracelet that didn't rattle.Still love it.
I picked up the BB Pro 7 months ago and I absolutely love it. I was considering the BB58 but the T-fit clasp on the Pro sealed the deal for me. The thickness is not an issue for me so that wasn't a deal breaker. Now if Tudor adds the T-fit clasp on the Black or Blue BB58 I'll add another watch to my collection. Great video Andrew keep them coming.
Congrats! Great looking GMT! How does it wear if you don't mind me asking? I personally don't care about the numbers on paper, but was concerned about the height and feeling like there is a Gatorade cap on my wrist..
@@jrh1704 Thank you Jeffrey, for me it wears exceptionally well. I have a 7 inch wrist so the thickness kind of disappears and it's a non issue. I suggest getting it on the bracelet as it flows better. I wear my watch all day long and it's very comfortable. No issues with it since I purchased it. Have a great day.
Steel Reef offers an oem quality 5mm clip-out link (not a diver extension, more like what is found on the Milgauss), and that does the job for me. I don't even need it tbh as the fit I have is perfect. But once in a while I'll just clip it out for no reason. I guess I'd want the TFit just to have it, but the Reef link is fine.
I bought the BB Pro with a bracelet last year and I love it! It’s my first luxury watch so I don’t know how the thickness compares to other watches. It’s just a really cool looking watch, which feels very comfortable to wear.
I recently went to a dealer to swap my 58 for the pro but after seeing the pros thickness I decided to stick with the 58. Because the pro is 39mm, the thickness stands out and makes it look unproportional
Personally chose the BB Pro (luckily only had to wait about a month after launch) and haven’t looked back since! The thickness does go noticed here and there but it’s been a great daily watch
I’ve owned both and have to say surgically speaking the 58 is a better fit, lighter, probably more versatile, but it does get boring after a while, the Pro on the other hand is a chunky boy and I likes that, the bezel brushing is brilliant and the yellow hand pops - is has something special which can only be appreciated on the long haul, where as the 58 is a charmer that loses its razzle dazzle quickly. Didn’t have to wait walked into an AD and was one in cabinet.
I would get the 58. And compliment it with a GS SBGN003. Simple as that. Those two are my current real lusts. Now to decide witch one to spring for first...
I bought the BB58 gilt yesterday. I was offered the GMT and Pelagos39 but no other watch appealed to me after seeing the golden hands of BB Gilt. (I originally went out to buy a Chanel J12 38mm Black - which btw is stunningly beautiful. I wasn’t ready for it at $7500 price point yet tho😅)
@@marcusskyfall oh Chanel the black pearl is a gem it has a Tudor movement and the attention to detail is much better than these Tudors. No one is talking about them but you must see it in person.
@@algo2017 meh, the all white and the all black look...I dunno, cheap women's Michael Kors department store fashion watches, I don't care what's driving it.
@@notDonaldFagen have you seen the new J12 yourself? Cuz comparing the new Swiss Made J12 with made in china department store watches is just wrong. Is it overpriced? Yes. Is it a great watch in every aspect? Absolutely.
Ok I think you missed one big thing. I am in the I can afford both category. I own both and have for a while. I also own more than a few Rolex’s. The reason I purchased both is they are better versions of there vintage counterparts. The 1655 explorer 2 had no GMT function definitely did not have 70 hours of power reserve and the bracelet is a whole another level. For the 58 the same can be said better movement longer power reserve better bracelet than the vintage Rolex and Tudor Submariner. This is not an Apples to Apples comparison of current Rolex models to current Tudor models. This is a Comparison of Vintage Rolex and Tudor to current Tudor. In my opinion there is no contest. Buy the Tudor current save a lot of money and whole you are at it get a five year warranty. Tudors to today is making vintage inspired watch of Rolex and Tudors past and they are killing it. Thank you Tudor. Lastly I love the videos you make please keep making them.
Another awesome video Andrew! Interestingly I wear a black dial Explorer II and my twin brother wears a Submariner. We've considered, cashing out and grabbing these exact watches. Not a knock on the Rolexes at all; more a commentary on how good the Black Bay's are - especially for the price delta.
I bought a BB in 41 mm with the black dial and blue bezel last year and I’m totally happy with it. The Pro is nice but at 39mm with the thickness of a 41 that might look disproportionate
The 58 lives on my wrist. Got it in August and wore it every single day, and often to bed. My new year's resolution was wearing my other watches again and have a rotation. I'll now wear it 1-2 days a week at work, and then all weekend long. And any work day with another watch has the 58 put on when I get home. Funniest thing is, I kind of hate divers. But if there were such a thing as a one watch collection, this would be it.
This is a tougher call than the Pelagos v. BB58. For months, I was torn between the 925 and the Pro. The issue was resolved when I let go and let the wife decide. She also liked both, but went with the Pro. It was a good decision, but failure was unlikely given the quality of both watches. In light of her decision making skills, she must now decide which of our two daughters we will keep. The loser will be sent to Jolly Old to live with Mr. Hands and the sheep.
At one point I owned both, but over time I grew tired of the BB58 and it got sold to help fund a reverse panda Zenith Chronomaster Original. The BB Pro on the other hand is the perfect everyday watch and the dial design is 10/10. I don't even notice the thickness, but then again I like chronographs too and they are typically 13mm+ in thickness.
Thanks for another top quality review. I’d go for the Black Bay 58 myself, mainly because I just prefer the looks, but also that I’m pretty convinced the thickness of the Pro would not sit well on my relatively small wrist. Now, I don’t have any children, but many years of working with them means that if I did, I’d probably want to sell both too! Keep well and keep up the fine work :-)
Love my Pro, i discounted it on the proportions but i met someone who had one back in April and tried it on, it's honestly not bad, not thin but not bad. i am lucky enough to currently work for a company that works with Tudor, and not only was I able to get one immediately, but with a significant discount. For £1850, its the best watch i could have got, already adventured in and scratched up, I will never sell it.
@@PepRex Oh no i got it brand new, i’ve just worn it hard as it’s a hard wearing watch. I really got it because i saw vintage 1655s beaten, dented and scratched and thought “this watch will look amazing with 50 years of life” so i haven’t hesitated to wear it anywhere.
Also if you’re wondering about the £1850, it was 60% retail price (at the time), which is what is considered pure cost of manufacturing, it’s what alot of employees get in the industry.
I will get the 58. First time I sow it I felt in love with it. I would buy the 58 even if I had the money for a Submariner. I know maybe I’m vaine but I think that one big part of buying a watch it’s of feeling in love with it. Would you wear a piece of close that you don’t like. I won’t.
If one could afford to buy both BB58 and BB Pro he would rather buy a rolex? I certainly would disagree. I sold my rolex watch so that I can afford these 2 watches. To me having both of these watches is better than owning 1 steel rolex watch. The dimensions of BB58 is more finely tuned than the submariner, and the clasp of the BB Pro is actually better than any rolex watch. These 2 watches cannot be compared with each other. One shouldn't decide between these 2 watches as both serve a very different set of functions. So it's an easy decision to choose as it all comes down to one's lifestyle which requires more of a diver watch or a GMT watch. But this comparison video is still an excellent video (all your videos are top quality) that showcase the beauty of these 2 watches at the same time.
Oh wow! Finally, I can decide between spending my money on a Black Bay 58 or a Black Bay Pro! 😁 (I am broke and can only dream of owning one of these amazing time pieces 🤭) Thanks for the wonderful and informative video with breathtaking AV production (and arguably the best disembodied voice around 😳) as per usual. Hope everyone has a good one!
Nice video as usual! Nevertheles after hearing the opening comments it's strange that not even the major watch reviewers have noticed yet that most buyers are wearing Tudor by choice, not because they can't afford a Rolex. Both are great brands in their own righ but with a different vibe that the other in most cases does not offer.
Ideally you'd give away both your children was my favourite bit 🙂. A GMT watch has a date incase the local and second time zone are across different days. Rarely is a GMT without a date.
BB Pro has more features and is more useful as a tool watch because of the GMT function but the design of BB58 is definitely timeless, especially the black dial one. Had mine a year ago and it still brings me joy when I wear it.
I had this exact dilemma for a while! I ended up with the Pro but still want the black bb58, neither was available though (only 58 blue or 925). However the Pro popped up and I picked it up straight away. I weighed up the clasp and gmt+date over the rotating bezel. However I do like the look of the 58 more and it wears better (thinner). I'm still not sure if I've made the right decision but the Pro is definitely more unique and i am slowly coming around to it more. I'm not a fan of the no surround loom as it makes the watch look a lot more casual (I know that's its intention).
For me, it's all about aesthetics. When I first laid eyes on the 58, I thought shite! I have to buy that damn watch now. Same thing with my Omega 300 and my Grand Seiko spring drive. It's love at first sight. The Tudor Pro just did not have that effect on me at all. Kinda like Rolex watches; there's not a single model I love. I see a Breguet of a Voutilainen and I just wish I made more money...
Got the pro as a first watch. Not bothered by the thickness. Nothing else to compare it with so I don't think it's too thick. Worked in a watch store for 2 years so tried other watches. But I choose not to be bothered by the thickness. It's fine. Beautiful watch.
I owned the BB58 black dial on bracelet after waiting over 6 months for my AD to get one. I wore it non stop for a year but then ordered the BB Pro also on bracelet. It took 4 months for my AD to give me the call and I can honestly say, the PRO for me is the better watch. Not because the 58 is a bad watch... its superb..but the Pro is just more interesting. I find myself looking at the time/dial more often. For ref I have a 6.5" wrist and the thickness is no issue at all. I don't need it to "slide under a cuff" because I want other people to see it too. 10/10. T-fit clasp also seals the deal. I sold my 58 in the end. No point keeping it when I knew the Pro would steal most of the wrist time
Had the totally identical experience having overlapped ownership of both, and same 6.5 inch wrist. The thickness actually lets us twig wrists have a bit of wrist presence without the dial looking like a saucer on wrist
First time ever in a comparison video I have both. For me they are very different and although the retail adds up to a Rolex, good luck buying one! Cheers 😊
Bought my BB58 four years ago and it's displaced my other watches from my wrist despite costing less. This includes the Rolex Explorer II which had been my near-daily wear for a decade. Hence, no BB Pro for me!
In my recent experience the Pro isn’t that hard to find - there are certainly much rarer Tudor’s. However, my choice was for the Pelagos 39 (and also a 925).
Personally chose the BB Pro (luckily only had to wait about a month after launch) and haven’t looked back since! The thickness does go noticed here and there but it’s been a great daily watch
Great video👍👍 The Pro is incredible despite the thickness. Had the 58 and never really liked the gold accents. Owning the Pro since last summer and honestly it can be one watch collection. The thickness topic has been discussed since day 1. Really not an issue and actually not sure I would like it, if it would have been much lower (like the case on the 58). Great piece from Tudor and very thankful that they offer this one to us.
I buy the BB Pro for the date, adjustable micro bracelet, GMT, and hint of explorer II look. The thickness gives it a bit of masculine look in my opinion.
Went to the AD to try a Pelagos 39 and took a navy BB58 instead, it just felt, special. Went back a few months later to get the Pelagos, decided to try the BB Pro despite hearing the narrative about how horrendously thick it wears. It felt and looked great on wrist! Genuinely don't know where the narrative of the Pro being unwearable came from (Rolex Explorer 2 owners, probably) but it's unwarranted. I now own both watches, and love them equally, both offering a different vibe on wrist. I have Seikos in my collection that wear large on my 6.75in wrist, the Pro wears well in comparison 😊👍
I rarely wear a shirt and tie. I work in an ER and scrubs are my daily wear. Thickness not even a thought when wearing short sleeves. Also I prefer a dat function BBPro for the win
I’m one of those buggers with both - I wear the Pro all the time. Thickness isnt an issue and the clasp is perfection. Slightly more taper to the bracelet too 👍🏼
This is all nice, but how about all those cases of these watches having major problems with the date wheel? I mean, certina and roamer don't have such problems, and cost one fourth of the price. So for the premium of 4+k such quality control issues are just unacceptable.
I don't buy a watch just to still need to check my phone for time related things. That said, the Pro has a lot of competition in the traveler's GMT space now and the design just doesn't do much for me as someone not hugely into the vintage thing. The 58 in gilt has more character to it and stands out as a unique design even if one isn't fully aware of what it's referencing. It remains on my list of things I'd like to get as a weekend watch. It'll just be a while as I did shop for GMT watches recently and a Grand Seiko Mistflake won out (alongside a JDM G-Shock square as its beater travel buddy).
Tried on a BB58 today with the nato strap and it was beautiful. They were out of the pro but said it would be a 1-2 month wait time. So I’d pick the BB58 based on the thickness but I didn’t get to personally try the pro.
*looks at you in P01* yep I'm a weirdo that wears a P01 in rotation, so odd proportions don't bother me lol. BB Pro is the next watch on the list, right alongside the Bel Canto.
I have both and they are very diferent, its like apples and oranges, the 58 its my favorite but for sentimental reassons, the pro on the other hand its just mesmerizing to look at.
I’ve got the blue BB58 & I don’t think I’d trade it for a watch as thick as the Pro. That said, I’d love the BB58 with a date window at 6 & a glide-lock clasp…
I think you summed it up near the beginning Mr Talking Hands, get them both but that opens up another tin of wriggly things. Can you afford both? Which one do you go for first? For that latter question get the BB58 in whatever flavour you want and get on the register of interest for the Pro and hope it turns up when you have sufficient folding stuff to pay for it, ideally before another price increase. However I think there may be another insect in the skin cream and that might well be the Pelagos 39 (also allegedly pretty scarce), very light, terrific build and modern. For some this could now be a three way battle for your hard earned cash and that may take more time to save and decide. Let's hope that prime time piece, the phone doesn't die while you are saving up.
I have both the Pro and the BB 58 925 and the Pro gets a lot more wear---even with the extra thickness it wears so comfortably thanks to the T-Fit clasp. I bought my wife the BB 58 Gilt dial so I get to admire it on her wrist!
Exactly what I did, wife took the bb58. The bb58 has better specs on paper but doesn't click the same. The gilt is too showy for me. The pro is just more special.
The 58 is beautiful but the fact it hasn’t got the date means I won’t be getting it. Going for the Bremont s302. Just as good looking, British with a Swiss chronometer movement (modified eta) and has a GMT’ hand. And I know it’s “only” 38 hr power reserve but I’ll be wearing it so not bothered. Plus 20mm between lugs so easy to change the bracelet to leather straps or nato for a change of style or colour. Yes I’ve been mulling it over for a while. Lol. 😅
The point you should be making towards all the watch snobs out there should be: at the price of one (boring?) Rolex, you can have both of these, so why choose?
Can't see me getting a BB58, but I could get a Pro and be happy with the purchase. However, there's a lot of competition at this price point. Gonna bite the bullet and choose something, somewhere down the line, but not just yet.
I’ve got the GMT. It’s a daily driver, the ultimate tool watch for travelling (I travel a lot for my work). It’s unbelievably accurate (I think 1s a month), and the best watch I’ve ever owned. I would like a 58 simply to be a little less ‘tooly’ for evening wear etc. The added thickness of the Pro isn’t an issue (I’ve no problem with the GMT) but with a 39mm case it just seems disproportioned to me, a bit stocky rather than elegant. In an ideal world I’d like a 41mm BB 58. No I will never buy Rolex. I simply have contempt for having to ‘suck up’ to buy a product, either it’s available to me or not, I don’t want to have to do favours to the dealer to spend my money thank you. Besides Rolex isn’t for me. Tudor is a much more subtle brand, and flies under the radar. So I think at some stage I’ll be going back to look at BB but possibly even a BB41
I was lucky to get a BBPro which I love, went looking for a Ranger and came out wit the Pro. The height is not a problem at all as the lugs a quite short. Even when I don’t have a big wrist it sits perfectly fine. I would keep this one and may get a Pelagos 39 as well. The golden hands and markers of the 58 are not my cup of tea, but Its a very nice watch.
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Being an elderly chap when I got the BB58 it was like getting a birth year piece that hasn't missed a beat and had a bracelet that didn't rattle.Still love it.
That’s such a nice way to describe the idea of the BB58!
Recently bought a birth year 1965 Omega Constellation so that I can ensure that I will never be the oldest thing in the room 🙂
Yeah but those rivets are so popular with the gay community it can cause issues when you go out at night.
@@KRBY555 what? 🤣🤣
Bought the blue BB58. It is simply beautiful in its symmetrical and classic subby design. Perfectly sized and understatedly stunning.
I’ve got the blue BB58 too on bracelet; what a great watch it is!
@@chriscon8463 Yep!
I picked up the BB Pro 7 months ago and I absolutely love it. I was considering the BB58 but the T-fit clasp on the Pro sealed the deal for me. The thickness is not an issue for me so that wasn't a deal breaker. Now if Tudor adds the T-fit clasp on the Black or Blue BB58 I'll add another watch to my collection. Great video Andrew keep them coming.
Congrats! Great looking GMT! How does it wear if you don't mind me asking? I personally don't care about the numbers on paper, but was concerned about the height and feeling like there is a Gatorade cap on my wrist..
@@jrh1704 Thank you Jeffrey, for me it wears exceptionally well. I have a 7 inch wrist so the thickness kind of disappears and it's a non issue. I suggest getting it on the bracelet as it flows better. I wear my watch all day long and it's very comfortable. No issues with it since I purchased it. Have a great day.
You've got Ranger's bracelet, so go get one.
I own a Tudor BB Pro too and I love it too!
I hope they add a date and the T-fit clasp for the 58 🙏🏻
Steel Reef offers an oem quality 5mm clip-out link (not a diver extension, more like what is found on the Milgauss), and that does the job for me. I don't even need it tbh as the fit I have is perfect. But once in a while I'll just clip it out for no reason. I guess I'd want the TFit just to have it, but the Reef link is fine.
Tried both. The bulk on the pro is balanced but it's very noticeable. I went with the 58 and no regrets. It's a modern classic 💯
Which colour you get bb58?
The BB58 is a grail watch for me, so easy choice. I don't have need for a GMT complication.
I bought the BB Pro with a bracelet last year and I love it! It’s my first luxury watch so I don’t know how the thickness compares to other watches. It’s just a really cool looking watch, which feels very comfortable to wear.
I recently went to a dealer to swap my 58 for the pro but after seeing the pros thickness I decided to stick with the 58. Because the pro is 39mm, the thickness stands out and makes it look unproportional
I can’t imaging wearing a 39mm that is that thick. As it is, my BB58 is a pleasure to wear! Tack on another -4mm, & it would be out of proportion.
Personally chose the BB Pro (luckily only had to wait about a month after launch) and haven’t looked back since! The thickness does go noticed here and there but it’s been a great daily watch
I’ve owned both and have to say surgically speaking the 58 is a better fit, lighter, probably more versatile, but it does get boring after a while, the Pro on the other hand is a chunky boy and I likes that, the bezel brushing is brilliant and the yellow hand pops - is has something special which can only be appreciated on the long haul, where as the 58 is a charmer that loses its razzle dazzle quickly. Didn’t have to wait walked into an AD and was one in cabinet.
"It's like choosing which of your children you would rather give away."
"The answer, ideally, is both"
As a father of two, I couldn't agree more 😂
I was wondering how many people caught that, or if he said it wrong. But I knew better*
Cracked me up...cheeky opening🤣
I would get the 58. And compliment it with a GS SBGN003. Simple as that. Those two are my current real lusts. Now to decide witch one to spring for first...
I purchased a Gilt BB58 today and I'm over the moon!!
I bought the BB58 gilt yesterday. I was offered the GMT and Pelagos39 but no other watch appealed to me after seeing the golden hands of BB Gilt. (I originally went out to buy a Chanel J12 38mm Black - which btw is stunningly beautiful. I wasn’t ready for it at $7500 price point yet tho😅)
You made the right decision by not getting the Chanel.
@@marcusskyfall oh Chanel the black pearl is a gem it has a Tudor movement and the attention to detail is much better than these Tudors. No one is talking about them but you must see it in person.
@@algo2017 j12 is a classic
@@algo2017 meh, the all white and the all black look...I dunno, cheap women's Michael Kors department store fashion watches, I don't care what's driving it.
@@notDonaldFagen have you seen the new J12 yourself? Cuz comparing the new Swiss Made J12 with made in china department store watches is just wrong. Is it overpriced? Yes. Is it a great watch in every aspect? Absolutely.
The best intro ever! “The answer ideally is both” 😂😂💕💕💕
Ok I think you missed one big thing. I am in the I can afford both category. I own both and have for a while. I also own more than a few Rolex’s. The reason I purchased both is they are better versions of there vintage counterparts. The 1655 explorer 2 had no GMT function definitely did not have 70 hours of power reserve and the bracelet is a whole another level. For the 58 the same can be said better movement longer power reserve better bracelet than the vintage Rolex and Tudor Submariner. This is not an Apples to Apples comparison of current Rolex models to current Tudor models. This is a Comparison of Vintage Rolex and Tudor to current Tudor. In my opinion there is no contest. Buy the Tudor current save a lot of money and whole you are at it get a five year warranty. Tudors to today is making vintage inspired watch of Rolex and Tudors past and they are killing it. Thank you Tudor. Lastly I love the videos you make please keep making them.
Another awesome video Andrew! Interestingly I wear a black dial Explorer II and my twin brother wears a Submariner. We've considered, cashing out and grabbing these exact watches. Not a knock on the Rolexes at all; more a commentary on how good the Black Bay's are - especially for the price delta.
I bought a BB in 41 mm with the black dial and blue bezel last year and I’m totally happy with it. The Pro is nice but at 39mm with the thickness of a 41 that might look disproportionate
The 58 lives on my wrist. Got it in August and wore it every single day, and often to bed. My new year's resolution was wearing my other watches again and have a rotation. I'll now wear it 1-2 days a week at work, and then all weekend long. And any work day with another watch has the 58 put on when I get home.
Funniest thing is, I kind of hate divers. But if there were such a thing as a one watch collection, this would be it.
This is a tougher call than the Pelagos v. BB58. For months, I was torn between the 925 and the Pro. The issue was resolved when I let go and let the wife decide. She also liked both, but went with the Pro. It was a good decision, but failure was unlikely given the quality of both watches. In light of her decision making skills, she must now decide which of our two daughters we will keep. The loser will be sent to Jolly Old to live with Mr. Hands and the sheep.
BB58 👍🏼 No faffing with date and a very useful bezel for timing the boiling of my eggs.
At one point I owned both, but over time I grew tired of the BB58 and it got sold to help fund a reverse panda Zenith Chronomaster Original. The BB Pro on the other hand is the perfect everyday watch and the dial design is 10/10. I don't even notice the thickness, but then again I like chronographs too and they are typically 13mm+ in thickness.
Got the bb58, perfect watch. The Tudor rose on the crown is such a small detail but for me sets it apart from other 39 m Tudors.
Thanks for another top quality review. I’d go for the Black Bay 58 myself, mainly because I just prefer the looks, but also that I’m pretty convinced the thickness of the Pro would not sit well on my relatively small wrist. Now, I don’t have any children, but many years of working with them means that if I did, I’d probably want to sell both too!
Keep well and keep up the fine work :-)
Love my Pro, i discounted it on the proportions but i met someone who had one back in April and tried it on, it's honestly not bad, not thin but not bad.
i am lucky enough to currently work for a company that works with Tudor, and not only was I able to get one immediately, but with a significant discount.
For £1850, its the best watch i could have got, already adventured in and scratched up, I will never sell it.
@@PepRex Oh no i got
it brand new, i’ve just worn it hard as it’s a hard wearing watch. I really got it because i saw vintage 1655s beaten, dented and scratched and thought “this watch will look amazing with 50 years of life” so i haven’t hesitated to wear it anywhere.
Also if you’re wondering about the £1850, it was 60% retail price (at the time), which is what is considered pure cost of manufacturing, it’s what alot of employees get in the industry.
I will get the 58. First time I sow it I felt in love with it. I would buy the 58 even if I had the money for a Submariner. I know maybe I’m vaine but I think that one big part of buying a watch it’s of feeling in love with it. Would you wear a piece of close that you don’t like. I won’t.
For me it’s always going to be the OG BB58 it’s simply beautiful!
If one could afford to buy both BB58 and BB Pro he would rather buy a rolex? I certainly would disagree. I sold my rolex watch so that I can afford these 2 watches. To me having both of these watches is better than owning 1 steel rolex watch. The dimensions of BB58 is more finely tuned than the submariner, and the clasp of the BB Pro is actually better than any rolex watch. These 2 watches cannot be compared with each other. One shouldn't decide between these 2 watches as both serve a very different set of functions. So it's an easy decision to choose as it all comes down to one's lifestyle which requires more of a diver watch or a GMT watch. But this comparison video is still an excellent video (all your videos are top quality) that showcase the beauty of these 2 watches at the same time.
Oh wow! Finally, I can decide between spending my money on a Black Bay 58 or a Black Bay Pro! 😁 (I am broke and can only dream of owning one of these amazing time pieces 🤭)
Thanks for the wonderful and informative video with breathtaking AV production (and arguably the best disembodied voice around 😳) as per usual. Hope everyone has a good one!
Nice video as usual! Nevertheles after hearing the opening comments it's strange that not even the major watch reviewers have noticed yet that most buyers are wearing Tudor by choice, not because they can't afford a Rolex. Both are great brands in their own righ but with a different vibe that the other in most cases does not offer.
Bb58 all the way
Love the 58, bought mine after skirting it for years. In a rotation with my GMT and FXD it gets the most wrist time by far!
I'm constantly switching off between these two and the no date sub. I love them all!
Great video Andrew! I’ve tried on both and I ended up with BB Pro. It was something different and looked rugged with the clean matte look.
Ideally you'd give away both your children was my favourite bit 🙂. A GMT watch has a date incase the local and second time zone are across different days. Rarely is a GMT without a date.
"Choosing which of your children you would rather give away: The answer ideally is both.." lmao
BB Pro has more features and is more useful as a tool watch because of the GMT function but the design of BB58 is definitely timeless, especially the black dial one. Had mine a year ago and it still brings me joy when I wear it.
Well, considering there were four BB Pro's in Bristol Goldsmiths last weekend....yes, four! I'd say the demand has certainly slowed.
I had this exact dilemma for a while! I ended up with the Pro but still want the black bb58, neither was available though (only 58 blue or 925). However the Pro popped up and I picked it up straight away.
I weighed up the clasp and gmt+date over the rotating bezel. However I do like the look of the 58 more and it wears better (thinner). I'm still not sure if I've made the right decision but the Pro is definitely more unique and i am slowly coming around to it more. I'm not a fan of the no surround loom as it makes the watch look a lot more casual (I know that's its intention).
For me, it's all about aesthetics. When I first laid eyes on the 58, I thought shite! I have to buy that damn watch now. Same thing with my Omega 300 and my Grand Seiko spring drive. It's love at first sight. The Tudor Pro just did not have that effect on me at all. Kinda like Rolex watches; there's not a single model I love. I see a Breguet of a Voutilainen and I just wish I made more money...
This feels like Top Gear for watches...
Glad I stumbled upon your channel mate👌
I own a Pro and this is a harder choice now as I’ve had the call for a 54 and I genuinely don’t know what to do!!???
Got the pro as a first watch. Not bothered by the thickness. Nothing else to compare it with so I don't think it's too thick.
Worked in a watch store for 2 years so tried other watches. But I choose not to be bothered by the thickness. It's fine.
Beautiful watch.
The Black Bayb58nwould be my choice due to its overall superb dimensions and the classic colors adorning it. Thank you.
BB 58 in black and gilt all day long. But I'm biased as I have one! Along with my BB panda chrono, I'm a happy bunny!
I owned the BB58 black dial on bracelet after waiting over 6 months for my AD to get one. I wore it non stop for a year but then ordered the BB Pro also on bracelet. It took 4 months for my AD to give me the call and I can honestly say, the PRO for me is the better watch. Not because the 58 is a bad watch... its superb..but the Pro is just more interesting. I find myself looking at the time/dial more often. For ref I have a 6.5" wrist and the thickness is no issue at all. I don't need it to "slide under a cuff" because I want other people to see it too. 10/10. T-fit clasp also seals the deal. I sold my 58 in the end. No point keeping it when I knew the Pro would steal most of the wrist time
Had the totally identical experience having overlapped ownership of both, and same 6.5 inch wrist. The thickness actually lets us twig wrists have a bit of wrist presence without the dial looking like a saucer on wrist
@David B yep...agree completely.. manly...without looking like something a Navy Seal would wear
I chose the Pro. Love it man. My favorite tool watch I’ve ever picked up.
BB58 hands down. Aesthetics alone, it's not even a close contest.
The Pro is just so cool. I'm waiting patiently on my AD to call me for mine
First time ever in a comparison video I have both. For me they are very different and although the retail adds up to a Rolex, good luck buying one! Cheers 😊
Bought my BB58 four years ago and it's displaced my other watches from my wrist despite costing less. This includes the Rolex Explorer II which had been my near-daily wear for a decade. Hence, no BB Pro for me!
In my recent experience the Pro isn’t that hard to find - there are certainly much rarer Tudor’s. However, my choice was for the Pelagos 39 (and also a 925).
The BB58 proportions are just perfect to me. It's just them damn perfect proportions that give the BB58 the edge over the Pro for me.
Pro all day. Thickness is a non-issue. It's the best value for money true/flyer gmt with a steel bezel in the market.
Personally chose the BB Pro (luckily only had to wait about a month after launch) and haven’t looked back since! The thickness does go noticed here and there but it’s been a great daily watch
Great video👍👍
The Pro is incredible despite the thickness. Had the 58 and never really liked the gold accents. Owning the Pro since last summer and honestly it can be one watch collection. The thickness topic has been discussed since day 1. Really not an issue and actually not sure I would like it, if it would have been much lower (like the case on the 58).
Great piece from Tudor and very thankful that they offer this one to us.
Excellent reviews as usual, guys!
I buy the BB Pro for the date, adjustable micro bracelet, GMT, and hint of explorer II look. The thickness gives it a bit of masculine look in my opinion.
I bought the pro, 6 month ago and I’m extremely happy with it.
I'll have a bb pro. I need a date on my watch.
@@PepRex I hope not too. I'm willing to risk it.
Why not do the comparison between the BB Pro and the BB GMT?
I prefer the Black Bay 58, mainly because I have one, but i find the Black Bay Pro more basic in its design. The Black Bay 58 has more character.
Went to the AD to try a Pelagos 39 and took a navy BB58 instead, it just felt, special. Went back a few months later to get the Pelagos, decided to try the BB Pro despite hearing the narrative about how horrendously thick it wears. It felt and looked great on wrist! Genuinely don't know where the narrative of the Pro being unwearable came from (Rolex Explorer 2 owners, probably) but it's unwarranted. I now own both watches, and love them equally, both offering a different vibe on wrist. I have Seikos in my collection that wear large on my 6.75in wrist, the Pro wears well in comparison 😊👍
I rarely wear a shirt and tie. I work in an ER and scrubs are my daily wear. Thickness not even a thought when wearing short sleeves. Also I prefer a dat function BBPro for the win
I’m one of those buggers with both - I wear the Pro all the time. Thickness isnt an issue and the clasp is perfection. Slightly more taper to the bracelet too 👍🏼
Out of interest, how come you choose the Pro more often? I'm tossing up between these two - head says Pro, heart says 58.
Guys, you should use some less HD magnification. @0:58 I found myself puffing off the dust not from my screen but from your watch glass!
This is all nice, but how about all those cases of these watches having major problems with the date wheel? I mean, certina and roamer don't have such problems, and cost one fourth of the price. So for the premium of 4+k such quality control issues are just unacceptable.
Interesting point on a date I'm sure it adds another mm on the case to
I have them both. I love de 58 but i wear the pro because of the date window. The pro is amazing.
I don't buy a watch just to still need to check my phone for time related things.
That said, the Pro has a lot of competition in the traveler's GMT space now and the design just doesn't do much for me as someone not hugely into the vintage thing. The 58 in gilt has more character to it and stands out as a unique design even if one isn't fully aware of what it's referencing. It remains on my list of things I'd like to get as a weekend watch. It'll just be a while as I did shop for GMT watches recently and a Grand Seiko Mistflake won out (alongside a JDM G-Shock square as its beater travel buddy).
Tried on a BB58 today with the nato strap and it was beautiful. They were out of the pro but said it would be a 1-2 month wait time.
So I’d pick the BB58 based on the thickness but I didn’t get to personally try the pro.
I recently purchased the BlackBay Chrono Panda, which I love. I am on the fence between the Pro and Pepsi GMT. As well as the Pelagos and the 58.
*looks at you in P01* yep I'm a weirdo that wears a P01 in rotation, so odd proportions don't bother me lol. BB Pro is the next watch on the list, right alongside the Bel Canto.
I have both and they are very diferent, its like apples and oranges, the 58 its my favorite but for sentimental reassons, the pro on the other hand its just mesmerizing to look at.
I’ve got the blue BB58 & I don’t think I’d trade it for a watch as thick as the Pro. That said, I’d love the BB58 with a date window at 6 & a glide-lock clasp…
I think you summed it up near the beginning Mr Talking Hands, get them both but that opens up another tin of wriggly things. Can you afford both? Which one do you go for first? For that latter question get the BB58 in whatever flavour you want and get on the register of interest for the Pro and hope it turns up when you have sufficient folding stuff to pay for it, ideally before another price increase. However I think there may be another insect in the skin cream and that might well be the Pelagos 39 (also allegedly pretty scarce), very light, terrific build and modern. For some this could now be a three way battle for your hard earned cash and that may take more time to save and decide. Let's hope that prime time piece, the phone doesn't die while you are saving up.
The thickness is not an issue on wrist.
I have the both!!! Get the 58 and then save and get the pro boys it's worth it
The BB pro is cool, I tried it on, didn’t really care that it was on the thicker side. Actually I would loved a 41mm version of this watch.
I can remember when Tudor was trying to get restarted in the US and the few dealers that carried them begged you to look at them. Those were the days.
I’d take both over a current explorer 2, so i did! Madness?
I have both , Tudor is one of best watches in this price range. If the Pro can go a bit thinner be perfect
I have both the Pro and the BB 58 925 and the Pro gets a lot more wear---even with the extra thickness it wears so comfortably thanks to the T-Fit clasp. I bought my wife the BB 58 Gilt dial so I get to admire it on her wrist!
Exactly what I did, wife took the bb58. The bb58 has better specs on paper but doesn't click the same. The gilt is too showy for me. The pro is just more special.
I have both, the bb58 in blue, love them equily
I dont like how the gilt fades to white. I'd like it to stay gold. Maybe a steel and gold bb58 will come out
I'd get a BB58 because it's a homage to the coolest watch ever made.
Have both, but prefer the Pro. You don't notice the thicknes after a couple of days
0:05 wait the answer to which kid would you rather give away is "both"?
Have them both and don’t care much about Rolex since both watches are +1 sec/day for the last few months and both look and wear awesome
I like the Pro & the 925 silver so when they do the watches in 41mm I’ll happily buy both. Until then I’ll just keep wearing my Pelagos 42mm Blue. 👍
The 58 is beautiful but the fact it hasn’t got the date means I won’t be getting it. Going for the Bremont s302. Just as good looking, British with a Swiss chronometer movement (modified eta) and has a GMT’ hand. And I know it’s “only” 38 hr power reserve but I’ll be wearing it so not bothered. Plus 20mm between lugs so easy to change the bracelet to leather straps or nato for a change of style or colour. Yes I’ve been mulling it over for a while. Lol. 😅
The point you should be making towards all the watch snobs out there should be: at the price of one (boring?) Rolex, you can have both of these, so why choose?
GMT without the date window would just be wrong, imo. That said, it would have looked better if they put it at the 6 vs the 3.
Love my 58. Despite everyone hating the bracelet.
Can't see me getting a BB58, but I could get a Pro and be happy with the purchase. However, there's a lot of competition at this price point. Gonna bite the bullet and choose something, somewhere down the line, but not just yet.
Don’t think your a fan of the date window. 😂😂😂 Probably the best narration yet and yes the 58 please
An interesting comparison would be between the BB Pro and the PR01w
Love your channel.Can you make a comparison between the black bay pro and the latest Explorer 2?
I’ve got the GMT. It’s a daily driver, the ultimate tool watch for travelling (I travel a lot for my work). It’s unbelievably accurate (I think 1s a month), and the best watch I’ve ever owned.
I would like a 58 simply to be a little less ‘tooly’ for evening wear etc.
The added thickness of the Pro isn’t an issue (I’ve no problem with the GMT) but with a 39mm case it just seems disproportioned to me, a bit stocky rather than elegant.
In an ideal world I’d like a 41mm BB 58.
No I will never buy Rolex. I simply have contempt for having to ‘suck up’ to buy a product, either it’s available to me or not, I don’t want to have to do favours to the dealer to spend my money thank you. Besides Rolex isn’t for me. Tudor is a much more subtle brand, and flies under the radar.
So I think at some stage I’ll be going back to look at BB but possibly even a BB41
I was lucky to get a BBPro which I love, went looking for a Ranger and came out wit the Pro. The height is not a problem at all as the lugs a quite short. Even when I don’t have a big wrist it sits perfectly fine. I would keep this one and may get a Pelagos 39 as well. The golden hands and markers of the 58 are not my cup of tea, but Its a very nice watch.